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Dajad
08-02-2006, 01:40 PM
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060726-7353.html

Once you've experienced the wonder of TiVo, it can be almost painful to watch live TV. One of the biggest reasons is commercials. With a DVR, it is a trivial matter to fast-forward through them to arrive at what you really want to watch. Both broadcasters and advertisers caught on to this fact quickly, and since that time, the challenge has been to quantify the ad skipping and put a price tag on it.

TiVo has responded to the challenge and taking on TV-ratings powerhouse Nielsen Media Research at the same time by beginning to track viewers' ad-skipping habits. A new division, TiVo Audience Research and Measurement, will cover almost every aspect of ad-skipping, including which ads are skipped, the exact second at which the skipping starts, and when consumers rewind to view a skipped ad. Industry heavyweight Nielsen has already begun tracking DVR data, breaking out viewership based on how long viewers timeshifted content. More recently, the ratings company has announced an ambitious plan to track viewing across all platforms.

The whole DVR-advertising debate has been brewing for a couple of years. In 2004, Forrester Research released its first survey on the topic, finding that advertisers planned to cut their TV budgets by up to 20 percent in the coming years. In an attempt to mollify advertisers and broadcasters, TiVo decided to try substituting old commercials from recorded shows with new ones and deploy pop-up ads that would appear while consumers fast forward through recorded commercials.

These days, ad agencies are even more leery of viewers' commercial-watching habits. Things heated up to a boil during this year's fall ad-rate negotiations, when advertisers insisted on lower rates based on DVR usage. The networks cried "foul" and threatened to lock out advertisers who pushed for lower rates. The networks later caved, implicitly acknowledging advertisers' arguments that "commercials seen during DVR-recorded programming have no value."

With its new tracking, TiVo hopes to demonstrate that recorded commercials do have some value after all. The company also wants to provide some hard data to the networks and advertisers to demonstrate exactly what kind of ads catch viewers' attention. One goal is to help ad agencies craft commercials that catch the eyes of jaded DVR owners, another is to show when ads are less likely to be skipped. The company plans to start its tracking with a random sample of 20,000 TiVo users.

Lurking in the background is declining television viewership. With more choices for viewers and alternatives to watching TV (e.g., surfing the Internet, playing video games), advertisers and broadcasters are squabbling over a piece of an ever-shrinking pie. In such a climate, TiVo's new tracking service is likely to find many eager customers.

PRMan
08-02-2006, 02:52 PM
Well, let's see if I can help them out:

I start skipping when the program is just about going to commercial (music starting, "coming up next" spoilers [hate those], etc.). Occasionally, I miss this and don't get started until the volume level goes through the roof and some annoying person starts yelling. That's my cue!

The biggest clue that I am done skipping is the ratings box. That tells me that I skipped all the commercials and that my program has just recently restarted. Usually, nothing has happened yet, but if I seem lost, I just hit Instant Replay once. Then I usually see the name of a company and a product and the tail end of some music.

Repeat for each commercial block.

Oh, when do I go back and watch a commercial? When it has some character I already associate with entertaining commercials (Jack In The Box, etc.). And a couple times when something really artsy caught my eye (Acura TSX, United Air Lines).

<commercial break>
HEY ADVERTISERS, I DEFINITELY DON'T WATCH ANY AD THAT INCLUDES:

REPETITION
YELLING
HARD SELL
REPETITION
ANNOYING VOICES
ANY INSULT TO THE AVERAGE PERSON'S INTELLIGENCE
REPETITION
</commercial break>

in other words, about 99% of current commercials. And yes, I turned up the volume on that last section as compared to the rest of the post.

alansplace
08-02-2006, 04:42 PM
HEY ADVERTISERS, I DEFINITELY DON'T WATCH ANY AD THAT INCLUDES:

REPETITION
YELLING
HARD SELL
REPETITION
ANNOYING VOICES
ANY INSULT TO THE AVERAGE PERSON'S INTELLIGENCE
REPETITIONwow! me too!! well done!!!
--
Alan :D

ZeoTiVo
08-02-2006, 06:28 PM
too bad we will not see results of those surveys - I bet some interesting info would come out - but of course like all things advertising only the paying customers will get to see what TiVo stats are returned

classicX
08-02-2006, 06:58 PM
Let's put it in their terms:

"commercials seen during DVR-recorded programming have no value."

a: Ineffective commercials have no value.
b: Condescending commercials are ineffective.
c: Commercials with someone yelling "SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY", otherwise known as loud commercials, are ineffective.
d: Commercials that are repetitive, (HEAD ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! x 600), are ineffective.
e: Commercials that are boring are ineffective.
f: 90% of commercials can be explained by letters b through e.

Besides, the pharmaceutical industry is every networks friend nowadays. You can't watch a single TV show with out seeing a drug commercial.

And now it's the "suicide" commercials - IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW HAS COMMITTED OR TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE WHILE ON NEUROTOXINS OR POISON CALL US TO MAKE US RICH.

And they wonder why we skip commercials?? Put on GOOD commercials and we will gladly watch them. They are the only reason some people ever watch the SuperBowl! There are websites dedicated to them! whatever happened to adcritic? I don't want to PAY to see funny commercials...

*sigh* how about a WASSSAAAAAAAAHHHH for old times' sake?

number of times the word "commercial" appears in this post: 14

TerpBE
08-02-2006, 07:19 PM
^ I think you overestimate the intelligence of the typical American TV viewer. I'd be willing to bet that Head-On sales have skyrocketed over the past few weeks.