Will HD-DVD or Blu-ray recorder permit dubbing from HD DirecTivo DVR?

[Leila]

Will HD-DVD or Blu-ray recorder permit dubbing from HD DirecTivo DVR?
Or will the broadcaster incorporate some sort of digital blocker?

For example, I wanted to save HBO's broadcast of Titanic in HD
and dub it to a HD-DVD or Blu-ray.... will this be possible or will
I have to buy the actual HD-DVD/Blu-ray disc?


I do realize such recorders are only available in Japan at the moment....
but they're not too far away, no?


Thanks!

[litzdog911]

No, it won't be possible. None of the announced HD-DVD or BluRay recorders have recording inputs for HDMI or component video signals. If they did, then there's nothing preventing recording the HR10-250 HD programs.

[sacarmic]

Uh if it doesn't have hdmi or component, what is it going to record HD from? Actually I was told at CES it would be an HDMI inut so they can control copying.

Scott

[Robert Spalding]

there is no way in hell they'd allow a bit perfect copy via HDMI to happen.

[cheer]

Sure they will. So long as the no-copy flag isn't set, anyway. In fact, HDMI is absolutely the way they'd want to do it, not component, because with HDMI they can disable copying any time they like.

Though I too wasn't aware that any HD recorder was announced that would allow such a thing. I thought it was purely ATSC-input only.

[newsposter]

yes it will

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1980121,00.asp

ok no, not quite...you'd have to do things we cant talk about to get it on the computer

but some folks have the know how to do such things. I sure dont.

i wonder what surprise they will get buying this in the USA...no hi def input! What's the point of having this burner ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5827037196&category=71581


another coming in august http://www.benq.com/press/News.cfm?id=1434&cat=0

[hijammer]

What about Firewire?

[cheer]

yes it will

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1980121,00.asp

ok no, not quite...you'd have to do things we cant talk about to get it on the computer
Er, he was asking about dubbing, which implied (to me anyway) standalone recorders, which has NOTHING to do with PC-based recorders.
i wonder what surprise they will get buying this in the USA...no hi def input! What's the point of having this burner ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5827037196&category=71581
From the auction: Perfect broadcast HDTV quality recording straight from satellite Can Record AAC 5.1 sound direct from BS High Vision SatelliteNow I don't know what a BS High Vision Satellite is, but evidently it can record HD from that.
another coming in august http://www.benq.com/press/News.cfm?id=1434&cat=0
Again, that's PC-based.

[cheer]

What about Firewire?
Seems unlikely but possible. Again, any digital-style input/output could, in theory, be controlled via anti-copy flags and the like.

[newsposter]

as I had no idea the OPs techincal competence, I didnt know if they were aware of the forbidden discussion that could get the stuff onto a PC and thus, the above recorders would in theory be fine and on topic. We simply dont know their intent so neither of us are wrong :)

[TyroneShoes]

My best guess is that it might allow an analog input, as there is a lot of puckering involved when corporate types think "digital". And if it allowed analog HD via component, that would both satisfy the suits who want to prevent perfect digital copies, as well as those of us who want to make those perfect (though analog) copies. And, that would allow a copy that is indistinguishable from the original, even if not "digitally" perfect. Without at least that capability, I am never going to be in the market for one.

[rminsk]

Analog input would be very expensive. The cost of a realtime high definition mpeg-2/mpeg-4/<what ever compression scheme> encoder is very high.

[TyroneShoes]

SD DVD recorders originally were about the price an HD DVD recorder will be when they come out, and are now about $140. The encoder is probably responsible for most of the extra hundred a recorder costs over a player. I would expect the precitous drop in price of an SD encoder seen in SA Tivos and DVD recorders would be mimicked by an equal drop in HD encoder prices, and probably has even contibuted greatly to that already.

I also expect my buying pattern (waiting until they dipped below $400) to also be a repeat performance.