Deadwood: "A Rich Find" OAD: week of 7/16/06 *spoilers* [Text View]

astrohip

07-16-2006, 10:04 PM

It's just gets better & better. Even watching with CC, I find I have to use the WTF button a couple times. Dialog so thick & rich...

More lines than you can shake a stick at. Where to start?

"Question I wake to in the morning and pass out to at night. What's my popularity with my fellow white people?"

And whatever she said about pissing herself (the first time, not the second). The Jane quotes are worth the show :up:

The show is building to a crescendo like a c*cks*cking Beethoven symphony. This is what The Sopranos used to be.

Rob Helmerichs

07-16-2006, 10:07 PM

The show is building to a crescendo like a c*cks*cking Beethoven symphony.
Heh.

Bananfish

07-17-2006, 05:06 AM

Bullock and Swearengen as a team is still so weird, yet it obviously has to be done.

I think ultimately the full team will be Bullock and Swearengen and Tolliver against Hearst. Now that'll be worth watching.

I have a prediction based on stuff I've read about the actual history of Deadwood of something that will happen in this feud ...

... The Gem will go up in flames. I could see that being a season ender, which would be a bummer since there would be no fourth season for Swedgin's resurrection.

heySkippy

07-17-2006, 09:27 AM

So who wants to guess what Hearst's telegram will bring? Is it something as simple as hired guns?

7thton

07-17-2006, 09:53 AM

So who wants to guess what Hearst's telegram will bring? Is it something as simple as hired guns?
That's what I'm guessing.

Paperboy2003

07-17-2006, 10:40 AM

I totally couldnt follow the whole Odell story. Why was the cook / mother so fearful of him dining with Hearst? Was he truly in Liberia? Why would he lie about it? Why would Hearst want to dine with him?

Perhaps I was too foggy from a long day in the sun to watch this show last night, but it's just so hard to follow sometimes!

harvscar

07-17-2006, 10:43 AM

I thik she was worried about him dining with Hearst because Hearst was "interviewing" for a new Captain Tucker or some sort of interim protection.

heySkippy

07-17-2006, 10:46 AM

I think Odell really was in Liberia - he had a lot of details on life there. But I think he's in camp now to try to run a scam on Hearst involving a "Rich Find" there, knowing that Hearst can't resist the lure of gold.

I suspect Odell may be biting off more than he can chew.

heySkippy

07-17-2006, 10:48 AM

I thik she was worried about him dining with Hearst because Hearst was "interviewing" for a new Captain Tucker or some sort of interim protection.
There's no way Hearst is going to hire a black man for protection. Odell's mom is worried because she knows that he's going to try to play Hearst and she knows what Hearst will do if/when he finds out he's being played.

harvscar

07-17-2006, 10:58 AM

Would he really hire him, though? He doesn't care about the kid and wouldn't lose any sleep if he took the knife or bullet meant for him. /shrug

I enjoy Auntie Loo's sassing Hearst though, and almost feel a little sorry for him.

scottykempf

07-17-2006, 01:43 PM

Does Jane have a urinary problem maybe? Once before when she was drunk she did on the floor, and now at Bill's grave she did again?

mwhip

07-17-2006, 02:59 PM

Does Jane have a urinary problem maybe? Once before when she was drunk she did on the floor, and now at Bill's grave she did again?

I think this may be a condition of her being drunk. Of course she did say coming back from Bill's grave that was the first time she had that problem sober could be issue of a more severe condition coming on.

Hearst sent for guns, Al is sending Dan for guns...this could get very interesting.

drew2k

07-17-2006, 05:44 PM

Hearst sent for guns, Al is sending Dan for guns...this could get very interesting.I'm pretty sure Al cancelled Dan's errand, so the hired guns may be delayed or never even show up!

This was after Bullock came into the Gem telling Al that he and Charlie Utter spoke, and Charlie thinks they should strike at Hearst before Hearst strikes at them. Al got a distant look and gave one of his famous speeches, this time about a forest. (As in, I would crawl through the forest and strike first with you, but if we strike first, in a hundred years there'll be nothing left here but a forest.) Al then told Dan not to ride "tonight".

My take was Al either came up with a new plan, not yet revealed, or after hearing Bullock verbalize it, Al now sees striking first as major folly. Al then decided it was a better idea to hold a "war council", so the real question is, is Dan just being delayed overnight, or is Al calling off the hired guns for good?

mwhip

07-17-2006, 05:48 PM

Also it was funny to see EB finally complain to Al about Hearst. It was like the final straw.

Jon J

07-17-2006, 05:49 PM

"We'll discuss the $200 later." ;)

thedudeabides

07-17-2006, 05:52 PM

Charlie's speech to Sol and Seth was priceless. He basically told them that if it comes to violence, the whole camp will be destroyed. Al has said previously that he doesn't want this to happen, and I think Bullock made him realize that they have to try something else.

The problem with Hearst is that none of them really know what he's thinking - even Al, who can see all the angles, is unsure. The bottom line is that while Al is a killer, he does it to preseve the status quo (to put money in his pocket). He understands that his success is tied to the success of the camp, which is why he gave Bullock a hard time about taking Alma's money to Denver, letting elections happen, etc. Hearst, on the other hand, is a meglomaniac who has severe tendencies to violence and destruction. While he can control his urges to his own benefit, he is unstable enough to let the whole camp go down in flames just because he has been humiliated.

Anyway, those are my $.02.

Its only going to get more interesting.

pmyers

07-18-2006, 11:33 AM

EB was great this episode. I can't wait to see where they are leading us. Can't believe this is the last season....but if it is to be the last season, at least it is a great one!

terpfan1980

07-18-2006, 11:41 AM

TV Guide for the coming week gives away a character spoiler that some fans may be interested. It may tip a bit on just where/whom Hearst was contacting with his outgoing telegram...

Legendary lawman Wyatt Earp is apparently coming to Deadwood... How close to historically accurate such a visit would be is unclear to me currently, but again, TV guide gives a small blurb that notes the actor that is playing the role in a coming episode (or more)

grecorj

07-18-2006, 05:10 PM

Re: TV Guide rumor:

http://www.blackhillsvisitor.com/main.asp?id=14&cat_id=30274

thedudeabides

07-19-2006, 05:17 PM

Re: TV Guide rumor:

http://www.blackhillsvisitor.com/main.asp?id=14&cat_id=30274

That's pretty cool.

Malcontent

07-19-2006, 08:28 PM

Does anybody think it's possible that Hearst is Odell's biological father? I know it's way out there. Totally out there.

But something that the N* General said about Odell's skin color that got my mind turning around. Odell's mother sent him away and wants to keep them apart. This was before Odell came back from Liberia with a possible con game about gold.

jradosh

07-20-2006, 08:03 AM

Does anybody think it's possible that Hearst is Odell's biological father? I know it's way out there. Totally out there.IMO, no way.

I think Odell really was in Liberia - he had a lot of details on life there. I don't think so. Aunt Loo made a stink about how quickly he was able to come after she sent for him (27 days?). Her point was that there was no way he could have come from Liberia that quick... she was on to his con. That's why she was trying to keep Odell from Hearst.

Rob Helmerichs

07-20-2006, 08:51 AM

I don't think so. Aunt Loo made a stink about how quickly he was able to come after she sent for him (27 days?). Her point was that there was no way he could have come from Liberia that quick... she was on to his con. That's why she was trying to keep Odell from Hearst.
My interpretation is that she sent him to live there, and he went, but came back without telling her. So he had been there, but she didn't realize that he wasn't there any longer.

Steveknj

07-20-2006, 09:41 AM

Another spoiler from the preview for next week:

Did it look like there was going to be a lesbian encounter between Joanie and Jane?

jradosh

07-20-2006, 10:36 AM

Another spoiler from the preview for next week:

Did it look like there was going to be a lesbian encounter between Joanie and Jane?
That was my take-away. :D

jradosh

07-20-2006, 10:38 AM

My interpretation is that she sent him to live there, and he went, but came back without telling her. So he had been there, but she didn't realize that he wasn't there any longer.
Yeah, that could be too. Certainly he wasn't there when she sent for him.

And clearly Hearst wasn't happy to have him in his hotel either.

I'm not sure what the General Nigger's comment about his "yellow color" (I think that's what he said) was about. Maybe yellow from gold dust because he was a miner?

This week's episode is definately a 3-watcher. Once for the overview. Twice to get more of the plot points. And a third time just to remember the quoteable lines.

I really want to see the exchange between Hearst and Richardson again. :p

LlamaLarry

07-20-2006, 10:53 AM

I'm not sure what the General Nigger's comment about his "yellow color"He said it would be a waste of his high yellow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_yellow) skin. I've usually only heard it in regard to people much lighter in tone than Odell, usually in reference to people that can "pass" as referenced in the wiki.

Rob Helmerichs

07-20-2006, 10:55 AM

I'm not sure what the General Nigger's comment about his "yellow color" (I think that's what he said) was about. Maybe yellow from gold dust because he was a miner?:p
"High yellow," a slang term for a black person with white blood.

jradosh

07-20-2006, 11:28 AM

He said it would be a waste of his high yellow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_yellow) skin. I've usually only heard it in regard to people much lighter in tone than Odell, usually in reference to people that can "pass" as referenced in the wiki.
If it's true that you learn something new every day, then I'm done for today. This was news to me. Thanks :)

Steveknj

07-20-2006, 11:49 AM

Then it would make sense that perhaps Hearst is his father, only Hearst may not know it...

pmyers

07-20-2006, 03:32 PM

See....I thought that Hearst had actually sent for Odell and not told his mom

mwhip

07-20-2006, 07:59 PM

Re: TV Guide rumor:

http://www.blackhillsvisitor.com/main.asp?id=14&cat_id=30274

If this is true than:

I bet he is played by David Anders AKA Sark on Alias. E! News is reporting he is joining the cast. :up:
url=http://imdb.com/name/nm1044403

jradosh

07-20-2006, 10:49 PM

Wow... second watching tonight and I'm still a bit confused. I know now that Hearst did send for the son, and that Aunt Loo wants nothing to do with it. But why??? :confused:

jradosh

07-20-2006, 10:59 PM

One thing I can see... Mrs. Ellsworth is the pivot point around which the 3rd season will hinge. Once (if) Hearst has her claim, there's no conflict left for him to fight (save for the miner union/rights issue). I'm sure Swearangen doesn't give a rat's tukus over her... but Bullock could take offense if she's made to give up her claim. That's where the story is going! Everything else (Aunt Loo's son, Jane and Nigger General and the Dyke, Farnum...) is just filler.

But I'll watch it a 3rd time this weekend. Maybe I'll gain some new insight. /shrug

heySkippy

07-21-2006, 05:13 AM

Wow... second watching tonight and I'm still a bit confused. I know now that Hearst did send for the son, and that Aunt Loo wants nothing to do with it. But why??? :confused:
I don't think Hearst sent for the son.

jradosh

07-21-2006, 08:40 AM

I don't think Hearst sent for the son.
Seemed to me that this was said during the ep. Now I'll have to watch a 3rd time to confirm.

This show... it's really something! :eek:

Rob Helmerichs

07-21-2006, 09:50 AM

I didn't get the impression Hearst even knew the son existed...

pmyers

07-21-2006, 11:27 AM

I didn't get the impression Hearst even knew the son existed...

See I got the impression that Hearst and "Aunt Loo" had known each other for a VERY long time...perhaps with Aunt Loo even working for Hearst's parents when he was a kid. If that is the case, that I have no doubt that he would know about her son.

grecorj

07-21-2006, 11:43 AM

I didn't get the impression Hearst even knew the son existed...

Well, I'd have to watch it again -- like everybody else! -- but I got the impression he had never met the son, but wasn't surprised she had a son.

c3po33

07-21-2006, 05:16 PM

EB was great this episode. I can't wait to see where they are leading us. Can't believe this is the last season....but if it is to be the last season, at least it is a great one!

At least they say there will be 2 movies to wrap everything up.

audioscience

07-23-2006, 05:37 AM

Wow... second watching tonight and I'm still a bit confused. I know now that Hearst did send for the son, and that Aunt Loo wants nothing to do with it. But why??? :confused:

It doesn't matter whether Hearst knew about the son or not. It seems unlikely that he did anyway because he was surprised to see Odell in his hotel. And no, it's not Hearst's kid either. Why do you people read so much into it? There's no evidence for either of the scenarios.
Here's the scenario:

Aunt Lou sent Odell off to Africa for whatever reason, likely to keep him away from Hearst. Aunt Lou is surprised that Odell found her after sending him a letter 27 days ago telling him that she was going to Deadwood with Hearst -- he obviously didn't get the letter. Odell tells her that maybe by reading the papers alone he knew where Hearst was and that there was a high likelyhood that she was with him.

Odell mentions to Hearst that he worked at a dig in Liberia. This interests Hearst greatly and he wants to have dinner with Odell to learn more which in turn upsets Aunt Lou because she doesn't want her boy dealing with a man like Hearst. She also realizes that it is highly likely that Odell is trying to pull a fast one on Hearst which would further endanger him.

It seems Odell was actually in Liberia and knows of something of gold, but what he plans to do with Hearst is yet to be seen. Hearst "calling" on Odell is just him telling him to come to dinner which Odell is late for because he was drinking.

audioscience

07-23-2006, 05:47 AM

Charlie's speech to Sol and Seth was priceless. He basically told them that if it comes to violence, the whole camp will be destroyed.

No, Charlie said that Hearst would would be coming for them due to his ridicule after being arrested. He said what needed to happen was to have Seth goad the remaining muscle from Hearst's dig into the camp and have Swearingen's and Toliver's people ambush Hearst's guns before they reached camp so all hell doesn't break loose. All the while Charlie and others would be up with Hearst minding him.

Sol says "the whole camp will be destroyed." To which Charlie replies, "how much you figure will stand once Hearst has his f_cking say?"