Rock Star: Supernova 6/11 & 6/12 SPOILERS

[David Platt]

Oh my god. Bottom three:

1. Zayra
2. Zayra
3. Zayra

That was the worst freaking thing I've ever seen.

[bigcb37]

hmm... :p

[LoadStar]

I dunno. I tuned in for the first time tonight, and I thought EVERYONE but the last singer uniformly blew.

Unless the talent this year is SO far below what they had last year, I fail to see why people glow about this show.

[bkmunroe]

I think last year's group of singers were definitely better than this year's.

I hope Zayra sticks around for a while. Of course, she doesn't have a chance, but I'd like to hear her sing a song in the style that the group is looking for.

I loved her comments. Tommy Lee seemed PO'd, but the rest of the guys thought it was hilarious.

I think Chris, Jill, and Zayra will be in the bottom 3. Chris should go home, but probably won't.

[MitchO]

Last night's performances were definetly underwhelming in comparison to the week before. I kept waiting for the explosive one, and it just flat out never came.

There definetly seems to be a level of irritation between the performers and the band ... Tommy and co. feeling like they don't "get it", and the kids feeling like they're not "explaining it". I gotta say, considering all the history of the performers in the band, and the whole "rock and roll" of it .. they shouldn't have to explain it.

Unless someone wakes up, this is already Dilana's to lose, I think.

[Rkkeller]

I think the female singers are better than the men. Most of the men (bald guy, guy with long hair who sang the Doors song before, etc...) I didnt like much. The females seem to have much more energy.

[aindik]

From what I've seen so far, this year's cast is not nearly as good as last year's. Aside from the winner J.D. Fortune, you had Marty Casey, Jordis Unga, and Suzie McNeil. Of those, only Suzie was a "late bloomer." The others, you knew were great right away. This year, there's not even one performer who's as good as any of those four. At least not yet.

Storm, Dilana, and Toby have potential. Josh, Ryan, and Phil have no business being there. And Zayra is just absolutely horrendous. Though, her "I was in diapers" comment was pretty funny.

It's a bit unfair for the band to criticize the contestants for song choice, or because they don't bring what's relevant to this band, when the producers put 14 songs out there for 14 people. Whatever song they don't like, someone was going to get stuck singing it that week.

And, is it me, or do they cover the same artists every week? How many more Stones and Nirvana songs are we going to hear? Where are the GnR, Metallica, or Crüe covers? For a band made up of 80s rockers, we seem to be getting quite a bit of songs from every era but the 80s.

[Chunky]

From what I've seen so far, this year's cast is not nearly as good as last year's. Aside from the winner J.D. Fortune, you had Marty Casey, Jordis Unga, and Suzie McNeil. Of those, only Suzie was a "late bloomer." The others, you knew were great right away. This year, there's not even one performer who's as good as any of those four. At least not yet.

Storm, Dilana, and Toby have potential. Josh, Ryan, and Phil have no business being there. And Zayra is just absolutely horrendous. Though, her "I was in diapers" comment was pretty funny.

It's a bit unfair for the band to criticize the contestants for song choice, or because they don't bring what's relevant to this band, when the producers put 14 songs out there for 14 people. Whatever song they don't like, someone was going to get stuck singing it that week.

And, is it me, or do they cover the same artists every week? How many more Stones and Nirvana songs are we going to hear? Where are the GnR, Metallica, or Crüe covers? For a band made up of 80s rockers, we seem to be getting quite a bit of songs from every era but the 80s.

Agree and disagree....Jordis was good for the first couple weeks then continued to suck complete a$$!

They are doing the same artists and it completely blows. Last night was pathetic and I can't stand those two guys that went in a row that Supernova tells all the time that they're stage presence stinks....you know...the one Jason said had no spine and the ******* head movements.....

Dalana is going to be tough to beat! If they don't mind a chick singer - she wins!

Top 3
Dalana
Lukas
Australian Dude

[PJO1966]

Agree and disagree....Jordis was good for the first couple weeks then continued to suck complete a$$!


I thought that she had intentionally sabatoged herself because she realized they had no intention of picking a female lead singer. It seemed to me while watching that she just stopped trying.

[MickeS]

And, is it me, or do they cover the same artists every week? How many more Stones and Nirvana songs are we going to hear? Where are the GnR, Metallica, or Crüe covers? For a band made up of 80s rockers, we seem to be getting quite a bit of songs from every era but the 80s.

Yeah, Nirvana is definitely getting tedious.

Maybe they're not allowed to cover songs by the aforementioned bands?

But it would be cool to hear someone take on "Too young to fall in love", "November rain" or one of my favorite obscure Metallica songs, "Escape" (which was recorded before Newsted joined). And "Nothing else matters" would be perfect! And "Paradise City", "Night Train", "Smokin' in the boys room", "My Michelle", "Home Sweet Home", "Rattlesnake Shake", "Fade to black"... maybe some of them will be sung later on.

Anothyer problem is that G'n'R, Crue and Metallica only have the "heaviness" in common - the musical styles are very disparate. So it's hard to know exactly what they're looking for. I missed last week's elimination show, but unless they played something there, I haven't heard anything about exactly what style of music they'll be playing, just that it's not metal.

But I also gotta wonder if any of these guys really want to be in this band, or just want to be on TV and be recognized. The song choices so far certainly don't reflect much of what the bandmembers' previous music has been about, save for maybe Billy Idol.

I think the best performer so far is that weird-looking dude with the shaved stripe in his eyebrow. His Billy Idol cover was great, same with the Coldplay (I think it was) cover.

Of the females, I hate hate hate Jill. "I don't know what Courtney Love did"... that's like when a small child standing by an empty cookie jar blames the teddy bear he holds in his hand for eating all the cookies. Pathetic. She should go just based on that.

[aindik]

November Rain would take up half the show.

[MitchO]

During the intros of the first episode, Jason indicated that the album is "straight rock and roll, all the way", indicating (to me anyway) that they'll be going more towards Crue's sound than the other two. I think they want to fit the sound around someone they like, rather than find someone who fits the sound ... they're just having a tough time articulating.

Having just finished up Supergroup, I noticed that despite most of those guys being in "80s bands", the manager and producer were quite clear that they didn't want any new music to sound "dated". So it's probably more relevant to hear the singers go after new music than 80s style stuff anyway.

[MickeS]

:) Well they managed to compress "Bohemian Rhapsody". :)

[MickeS]

It's too bad that Crue's last (?) album, "New Tattoo", didn't do very well, because I think it's great. There are some songs there that someone with balls could cover, the style of the record was very rock'n'roll/punk.

[sjgmoney]

I have no idea why Phil gets props form the band, he is awful, just completely abysmal. His voice sucks, he acts goofy, etc.

Bottom 3:

Phil
Chris
Zayra

Also can't understand the infatuation with the scary chic, Delana. When she was singing Ring of Fire last night it was laughable.

"It burns, burns, burns"

Exactly what a guy that slept with her would say the next morning.

[TR7spyder]

My Comcast DVR didn’t record the show (I HATE THIS DVR WITH A PATION!!!). Does anyone know where I can pick it up on line (hopefully before I watch tonight’s show)?

[MickeS]

I just watched the first "reality episode" on the Rockstar website, and they did showcase some of the Supernova music. Sounded decent... but a little too "grungy" and depressing... there's too many "poor me" bands out there, let's hear it for some party-hard rock'n'roll. :)

[Joules1111]

I have no idea why Phil gets props form the band, he is awful, just completely abysmal. His voice sucks, he acts goofy, etc.
Yeah, what's up with the pouty face? Do rockers really make a sad, pouty face when they get criticized?

[Chunky]

Also can't understand the infatuation with the scary chic, Delana. When she was singing Ring of Fire last night it was laughable.

"It burns, burns, burns"

Exactly what a guy that slept with her would say the next morning.

You probably had a hard time understanding why they kicked that other guy off after singing Duran Duran too :D

Dude, bottom line - this chick can flat out sing! Just wait til she does a normal - non-demonic sounding song. She has power and soul and - actually decent looking (if she'd quit trying to ACT like satan himself). If SN wanted a chick - she is the one.

I didn't really agree with the song choice, but since she did do it, it was pretty D4mn good....not sure what you listen to or for, but something has to stand out and it sure the heck is not the 'same ol same ol' of the majority of others. That said....mark my words...... :up:

[sieglinde]

I thought the Aussie guy did real well. Storm Large did better on the first episode than last night.

I don't like the emphasis on the lowest three. We get to hear them again tonight. I would rather see the best three on the second day. I suppose this is how the show works. A co-worker said that one of the shows about dancing does the same thing. Still, I find it pretty negative and then you get a dose of dross every Wednesday until the really bad performers are elimnated.

[Spire]

Yeah, what's up with the pouty face? Do rockers really make a sad, pouty face when they get criticized?It's a new trend, started by rocker Britney Spears.

[aindik]

I thought the Aussie guy did real well. Storm Large did better on the first episode than last night.

I don't like the emphasis on the lowest three. We get to hear them again tonight. I would rather see the best three on the second day. I suppose this is how the show works. A co-worker said that one of the shows about dancing does the same thing. Still, I find it pretty negative and then you get a dose of dross every Wednesday until the really bad performers are elimnated.

Well, in addition to the bottom three, we do hear the band's chosen encore performer.

[MickeS]

Plus even the bottom three aren't awful, IMO. I enjoy hearing them.

[ahartman]

Wonder how/if this will affect things...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060712/en_tv_eo/19477;_ylt=ArGLBPSRTeTUCP4C5tgmoj6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YXYwNDR rBHNlYwM3NjI-

"The Orange County-based band Supernova has filed a complaint alleging unfair competition and trademark infringement against Mark Burnett Productions, CBS and the other minds behind the competition show Rock Star: Supernova. Lee, former Guns N' Roses guitarist Gilby Clarke and former Metallica bassist Jason Newsted are using the on-camera opportunity to choose the next hot, yet appropriately surly, young thing to front their new band. "

The 'original' Supernova's song "Chewbacca" can be heard in Clerks.

Overall, I find the slate of singers very underwhelming. The brooding goth emo thing is just not working for me.

Also, could it be any more clear that Tommy Lee is just looking to get laid? By anyone who's walking? Male or female?

[LoadStar]

Wonder how/if this will affect things...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060712/en_tv_eo/19477;_ylt=ArGLBPSRTeTUCP4C5tgmoj6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YXYwNDR rBHNlYwM3NjI-

"The Orange County-based band Supernova has filed a complaint alleging unfair competition and trademark infringement against Mark Burnett Productions, CBS and the other minds behind the competition show Rock Star: Supernova. Lee, former Guns N' Roses guitarist Gilby Clarke and former Metallica bassist Jason Newsted are using the on-camera opportunity to choose the next hot, yet appropriately surly, young thing to front their new band. "

The 'original' Supernova's song "Chewbacca" can be heard in Clerks.

Wait a sec. "Common-law trademark"? Sounds like the original Supernova failed to register their trademark... and as a result, they have no protection under US trademark law.

Trademarks aren't like patents, you don't get to claim "prior art." You have to register your trademark, and you also have the responsibility to protect said trademark once it's registered. If you fail to do either, you've lost any and all rights to it.

Sucks to be the first Supernova, but oh, well.

[Dnamertz]

I REALLY don't get all the hype about Dilana, can someone who think she is great please explain it to me? I undertand she has the whole scary, I'm wierd vibe going on and I see how that gets people's attention. But after two weeks she has still not shown us whether she can actually sing or not. She sounded better last week than this week, but she just growlled/screamed through the entire song last week, and this week she kind of talked/whispered the whole song. Interesting, and not horrible, but unless she has a singing voice in there somewhere I don't see her winning. Who would sit through an entire concert that sounded like that.

I don't know if Storm Large is right for Supernova, but she can outsing any of the women and she has a good rock scream when she needs it. I think its between Storm and Lucas.

[MickeS]

All I can say is, wow, Jill was smoking hot after she completely changed her looks. :)

[fmowry]

Gotta give the nod to the Aussie dude. At least he played a sorta rock song.

Geez, could we get an AC/DC cover or something?

I just can't see a chick fronting this band. Unless they bring in Lita Ford. :)

Supergroup on VH1 is a much better rock band show.

Frank

[Chunky]

Gotta give the nod to the Aussie dude. At least he played a sorta rock song.

Geez, could we get an AC/DC cover or something?

I just can't see a chick fronting this band. Unless they bring in Lita Ford. :)

Supergroup on VH1 is a much better rock band show.

Frank

No lie man! This song selection sucks hard! Can we just have a straight-ahead rock and roll song? This music blows! And WTF....this goofy bitch sings a complete crap version of You Really Got Me, gets in the bottom three and sings the same exact thing again and passes?

The only chick I could possibly see (hear) fronting this group is Dilana. I think the next two weeks are make or break for her. I think she is potentially the best fem singer there, but she does scare me just a little. Just a 'normal' song people !!!!!! :mad:

[MickeS]

And WTF....this goofy bitch sings a complete crap version of You Really Got Me, gets in the bottom three and sings the same exact thing again and passes?

Did you listen to the two versions? The second one was so much better than the embarrassingly bad first version. I think the display of improvement is what kept her in it.

I can't see a female fronting this band either, and certainly I can't see either of the two girls who were in the bottom three yesterday do it...

And yeah, I'm pretty disappointed with the song selections so far too... at least they had a Cheap Trick song in there.

/Mike

[Alfer]

Tried to watch for a few minutes the other night....WOW! what a horrid show!

[Dnamertz]

Did you listen to the two versions? The second one was so much better than the embarrassingly bad first version. I think the display of improvement is what kept her in it.

/Mike

It was only slightly different. Either way, after that performance she still has no clue what this band is looking for. At least she got rid of the kiss at the end, but she replaced it with a breathy exhale...not rockin'. She reminds me of a Latina Celine Dione.

[Chunky]

It was only slightly different. Either way, after that performance she still has no clue what this band is looking for. At least she got rid of the kiss at the end, but she replaced it with a breathy exhale...not rockin'. She reminds me of a Latina Celine Dione.

C Dione is not near that damn goofy!

[Chunky]

Did you listen to the two versions? The second one was so much better than the embarrassingly bad first version. I think the display of improvement is what kept her in it.


Like polishing a turd! :D

[Jebberwocky!]

Tried to watch for a few minutes the other night....WOW! what a horrid show!


Not country enough???


I'm liking the Aussie dude so far. Also agree that this season's singers are not as good overall as last years. I miss the Monday night show from last year - hae to check it out on MSN.

[Johnny Dancing]

I think they save the new songs for the main show so as not to use them up during the elimination round with the worst singers - especially in these early weeks. Apparently licencing costs are extremely high to use these songs on the show. Remember last year, all elimination songs were the same INXS songs over and over, which was a big savings. I bet this year they have a pool of 20 elimination songs to pick from.

I didn't start watching last year until about the forth week when the weak were culled, don't worry, it'll get better as they have more time for the songs and they gain more experience. I'll take these pros over the Kariokee singers on American Idol anyday.

[sieglinde]

I do think Chris was eliminated simply because he had been on the bottom three twice.

[Jebberwocky!]

I do think Chris was eliminated simply because he had been on the bottom three twice.

I thought it was because he sucked wind. ;)

[montag]

This group sucks butt! They'd be fine for a girly band like INXS or Creed but come on G-n-R, Crue, Metallica, and one of these jerk or jack offs. And oh my God, I almost puke when I see them all jamming, head banging, and then throwing up the horns while "rocking out" to the Police of the Kinks. : puke:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b154/tat2ed311/horns.jpg

[Johnny Dancing]

The openning show I thought they had a strong group except the "Roxanne" guy. The second show was a bit weaker. Having try outs for a hard rock band may limit some of the diversity we saw last season. INXS did'nt want to much hard core rock, Supernova wants all hard core rock.... We'll see, I have a feeling when they get down to 8 or so finalists the shows will be more compelling.

[jradford]

Tried to watch for a few minutes the other night....WOW! what a horrid show!
Me, too. I have some friends that LOVE this show so I really wanted to give it a try. Pretty much everyone on camera annoyed me. Tommy Lee specifically. Dave Navarro wasn't much better. I lasted about 20 minutes on the Tuesday show, and basically hated every single performer. "Ring of Fire" was pretty good, but the whole production of it was still over the top.

I decided to give the elimination show at least a chance, and I guess it was a little more enjoyable. I did like Troy after I finally saw him, but this might be a show I just can't watch.

[fmowry]

I just don't see any of the contestants fronting this band. The Aussie might be the closest, but he's still not an edgy rocker.

Frank

[Jebberwocky!]

I thought last night's show was much improved from last week's.

Anyone else watch? :)

[montag]

I watched and was so uninspired I didn't even want to start a new thread. I'm really disappointed in this show. My expectations were so high following last seasons. I really though a heavier band would make this show more enjoyable but they're not doing any heavy music. It's more like Pop Rock than anything else.

BTW, I puked again last night as everyone was throwing up the horns when the announced, "The Cars - Just What I Needed". I've lost all respect for Gilby and Jason.

[montag]

Oh, and the chick that did the Cranberries song was the best of the season. It's the first performance this season where I said, "that was really good".

[Rkkeller]

I am wondering if the judges are tone deaf as many performances are really bad but when they pan to the judges they are bopping away. Then they give props for such a great performance and I am thinking are they were watching the same thing I was.

[Chunky]

Oh, and the chick that did the Cranberries song was the best of the season. It's the first performance this season where I said, "that was really good".

Yeah Cranberries....now there is some hard rockin, horn throwing music...what the hell is wrong with you? Do you want balls to the wall rock or what? Make up your mind! :confused:

[MitchO]

At this point, the show is Rock Star: Dilana. She's been the best performance for three weeks straight. It's merely a question as to whether or not they can really have a woman (even a crazy one like her) front the band. Otherwise, they'll have to "settle" for Magni. It's driving me crazy that they keep telling punkass kid how good he is; he's just ripping off a bunch of other halfway decent bands.

What I don't get is that they keep telling everyone to get filthy and ballsier ... but then the producers put "Everybody Hurts" in the music choices. Supernova isn't as good as INXS was at giving direction, and (if they're even involved) also make lousier choices for songs.

[GDG76]

I love how Tommy Lee wants them to be throwing themselves off the stage but they give them stuff like Creed, REM and Free. They criticize someone for not moving around then the next guy doesn't move at all and they love him.

And did Brooke Burke have a lobotomy? I vaguely recall when she hosted Wild On on E! that it was mildly entertaining. She is like a zombie up there.

[montag]

Yeah Cranberries....now there is some hard rockin, horn throwing music...what the hell is wrong with you? Do you want balls to the wall rock or what? Make up your mind! :confused:
:D I said her performance was good not that it was a good fit for a hard rock band.

And yes, balls to the wall, Accept style, is what I'm looking for. :D

[Deekeryu]

I think Dilana is so over-rated. She has spastic stage style when she gets going, has a hoarse-coarse voice and totally butchered one of my favorite songs. Talk about over singing it last night - totally lost the emotional aspect of that song.

Hope Phil gets the encore!

[MitchO]

He probably will, for the simple fact that they probably won't have Dilana do it twice in three weeks.

He sure as hell looked creepy during that performance. I'm trying to decide if it's him actually learning from Supernova, or just pretending to be what they want.

[Dnamertz]

I think Dilana is so over-rated. She has spastic stage style when she gets going, has a hoarse-coarse voice and totally butchered one of my favorite songs. Talk about over singing it last night - totally lost the emotional aspect of that song.



I thought she was overrated too in the first two weeks...all hype and image with no great vocal skills. But this week I was really impressed.

Does anyone else notice that some people are getting NO air-time except for their performancs? I've watched the "reality Inside the Mansion" episodes on rockstar.msn.com and only certain people are focused on. And when they have the Q&A session on stage between Supernova and the contestants they only talk to certain people. Storm Large, for example, never seems to get any coverage outside her performance. She is good enough to survive until the late rounds (I don't see her having a horrible week) but once they get to those final rounds the public will be much less familiar with her than someone like Dilana or Lukas who get a lot of air-time each week.

[MickeS]

What I don't get is that they keep telling everyone to get filthy and ballsier ... but then the producers put "Everybody Hurts" in the music choices. Supernova isn't as good as INXS was at giving direction, and (if they're even involved) also make lousier choices for songs.

That's my main complaint still. To criticize someone about their song being too "soft" is ridiculous, when these are their choices.

Give them some hard rock songs. And ENOUGH with Nirvana. Did the producers get the Nirvana rights dirt cheap, or what?

[fmowry]

That's my main complaint still. To criticize someone about their song being too "soft" is ridiculous, when these are their choices.

Give them some hard rock songs. And ENOUGH with Nirvana. Did the producers get the Nirvana rights dirt cheap, or what?

Courtney Love needs her heroin. (or does Dave Groll have the rights?).

I'd guess that the members of Supernova dislike Nirvana anyway.

Frank

[TR7spyder]

First of all, why are you guys using this thread to discuss next week’s show? :)

Give them some hard rock songs. And ENOUGH with Nirvana. Did the producers get the Nirvana rights dirt cheap, or what?

Well, that only partially true! A true, good rocker should be to turn just about anything into a “hard rock song”. Marty did it last year with Britney’s song and Dilana did it this week by adding an edge to the Cranberries song.

Deekeryu – how can Dilana be over-rated if most people actually like her?

[MickeS]

Deekeryu – how can Dilana be over-rated if most people actually like her?

Isn't that pretty much the definition of over-rated?

[PJO1966]

Isn't that pretty much the definition of over-rated?


Yup... pretty much.

[TR7spyder]

Isn't that pretty much the definition of over-rated?

Not if she is actually good, as demonstrated by many people who actually like her ;) (as apposed to perceived popularity). In my mind, over-rated usually applies to people who are overly-promoted by a very vocal minority, but are not as good as the hype that precedes them.

[FuNkY mOnK]

I think Dilana is so over-rated. She has spastic stage style when she gets going, has a hoarse-coarse voice and totally butchered one of my favorite songs. Talk about over singing it last night - totally lost the emotional aspect of that song.

Hope Phil gets the encore!
Butchered what song??? She did a grung song from Nirvana which if not better most definitly on par. She took an old classic from johnny cash that only people from that era would listen to it which now it has current style, and took the cranbery song Zombie which IMO fits her style more then the original. Overrated? no, Katherine mcphee and nucklehead taylor hicks is overrated. Bottom line Supernova needs Dilana not the otherway around. Sorry about any mispelled words, hey we're talking Rock here.