Tivo room and Season Pass

[washfan]

So I set up Tivo to record the soccer game on Friday and it tells me that it needs to remove a couple shows from the ToDo list. These are shows that aren't scheduled to tape for another 10 days or so. No problem, I click ok and away we go.

Now, when I watch the game and then erase the files, there will be room again to tape those original shows. Will Tivo automatically put them back on the ToDo list?

Thanks!

[mattack]

If you do it a while before the other shows air, yes..* (i.e. more than a day before definitely)

If your Tivo is full (and everying is save until I delete), and you delete a show at 7:59, unfortunately it won't "realize" it fast enough to record a show at 8..* by 8:30 in some cases.* But it runs a full scan of season passes overnight, at least based upon other descriptions.

[washfan]

If you do it a while before the other shows air, yes..* (i.e. more than a day before definitely)

If your Tivo is full (and everying is save until I delete), and you delete a show at 7:59, unfortunately it won't "realize" it fast enough to record a show at 8..* by 8:30 in some cases.* But it runs a full scan of season passes overnight, at least based upon other descriptions.


Thanks! I thought that might be the case!

[mick66]

I wouldn't count on the cancelled programs being rescheduled. If you tell your tivo that you no longer want to record a program, why would it reschedule it?

[Jonathan_S]

If you manually removed them the TiVo wouldn't reschedule.

But if you had scheduled a higher priority show the TiVo would have attempted to reschedule the program. And if you had later removed that higher priority show the TiVo would reschedule the other shows in that original timeslot.

I think that an out of space situation would work like this, rather than working like a manual removal.

[mick66]

I think that an out of space situation would work like this, rather than working like a manual removal.

When your tivo says that something has to be cancelled so that it can record this new program, you choose what doesn't get recorded. You remove/cancel them. Tivo isn't prioritizing or removing anything for you. You are doing it. How is that not a manual removal? Don't forget the 28 day rule. The SP's in question will have been on the to do list (but removed because you decided you didn't want them) within the last 28 days, so they will not record.



Go ahead and miss these recordings, just don't whine about it later.

[Jonathan_S]

When your tivo says that something has to be cancelled so that it can record this new program, you choose what doesn't get recorded. You remove/cancel them. Tivo isn't prioritizing or removing anything for you. You are doing it. How is that not a manual removal?
All I can tell you is that the TiVo does treat it differently.

If I go into the ToDo list, look at a program and press cancel, that is a "manual" removal. The TiVo assumes that I don't want to see that episode, and so it will not reschedule it. (Well, won't reschedule it until the 28 day rule for it has expired).

But if I schedule something else in the same timeslot and the TiVo brings up the warning that this means that the original program cannot be recorded, that isn't a "manual" removal. Even though I agree that the episode shouldn't be recorded at that time it still isn't a "manual" removal. (I put manual in quotes because that is my term for it. I don't know that TiVo has an actual term to describe this distinction).

The TiVo assumes that I still want to see that program; but not as much as the one I just scheduled. So the TiVo will try to find a later showing, or if the original timeslot frees up it will reschedule the preempted episode.

[mattack]

If I go into the ToDo list, look at a program and press cancel, that is a "manual" removal. The TiVo assumes that I don't want to see that episode, and so it will not reschedule it. (Well, won't reschedule it until the 28 day rule for it has expired).

Wait a second, unless I'm having a big brain fart here, I think this isn't actually the case.

I could swear that for something that is repeated a lot (e.g. The Real World), if I cancel an INDIVIDUAL episode, the episode will still be rescheduled in the same 2 week window (i.e. 28 day rule is not relevant).

I could be zoning out, since the shows on MTV are ones that I almost always manually record (i.e. manually pick from View Upcoming) because they often go out of their official time slot, and having the season pass have padding has caused more probs than it's worth.. so I just leave it as a SP, but then usually manually go view upcoming to record a batch of them in a marathon..

[washfan]

I appreciate you guys chiming in, and I wanted to let you know what happened.

I wrote down the shows that TiVo asked me about cutting when I wanted to tape something new. Then, over the weekend, I transferred a bunch of shows to my computer for storage and freed a lot of space on the TiVo.

Last night, about 36 hours later, I went into the ToDo List and there they are again! My Season Pass shows that were cut before are back!

So, I guess TiVo does know the difference. I don't know how long it took for TiVo to put them on the list again, but it eventually did.

This is a good thing!

Thanks again!

[ZeoTiVo]

I appreciate you guys chiming in, and I wanted to let you know what happened.

I wrote down the shows that TiVo asked me about cutting when I wanted to tape something new. Then, over the weekend, I transferred a bunch of shows to my computer for storage and freed a lot of space on the TiVo.

Last night, about 36 hours later, I went into the ToDo List and there they are again! My Season Pass shows that were cut before are back!

So, I guess TiVo does know the difference. I don't know how long it took for TiVo to put them on the list again, but it eventually did.

This is a good thing!

Thanks again!


yes, I am a little late to the thread but that was a great test of what the expected behavior is. TiVo initially told you it could not record some programs in the future due to space considerations- this can arise from large unexpected files - soccer game and having enough KUID season passes that the TiVo assumes will never go away no matter you always delete them within a couple days of recording.

since it was all about space considerations- when the TiVo does reindex season passes and the ToDo list it will look at space again. Given enough space at the time - it will go ahead and reschedule any show it has a non conflict season pass on