View Full Version : "Pick Programs to Record" now "Find Programs"
rrrobinsonjr
06-28-2006, 07:13 AM
Has anyone got the new update? I am so aggrevated by the new verbiage.
The interface has changed sublty with each new update, and up until now I've rolled with the punches. They've never been so drastic that it affected the continuity of the way one uses the menus.
For 3 years I've gone to "Pick programs to record" to update my SPM or review the "To Do" list, etc..
I am have a heckofatime getting used to the new menu....If they has at least called it "PICK" programs instead of "FIND" programs, it would have been a better transition.
:mad:
itsmeitsmeitsme
06-28-2006, 07:16 AM
You're kidding, right?
Bierboy
06-28-2006, 09:23 AM
Get used to it...it's not a showstopper. Your TiVo box still works, right?
mec1991
06-28-2006, 09:44 AM
Has anyone got the new update? I am so aggrevated by the new verbiage.
The interface has changed sublty with each new update, and up until now I've rolled with the punches.
If they has at least called it "PICK" programs instead of "FIND" programs, it would have been a better transition. :mad:
Thank God for loyal users like you who can "roll with the punches" during these trying times. :rolleyes:
mchips
06-28-2006, 09:51 AM
You'll get used to it, and new people to TiVo will only ever know it as "Find Programs."
I actually like the less verbiage, as it makes it stand out more from the other items... my eyes are now immediately drawn to that line item...
It has absolutely no affect on what or how the TiVo operates and it still applies to what that function is... if they'd have changed it to, say, something like "Settings", then maybe I could see how you might get upset... as Settings has nothing to do with finding and recording programs... but this menu set is for more than just picking and recording programs, and find programs still applies, if not moreso...
People just don't like change... that's the problem, not the changes...
cwoody222
06-28-2006, 10:46 AM
I am have a heckofatime getting used to the new menu....
If your brain can't handle the transition from "Pick Programs to Record" to "Find Programs" maybe you should stop watching TV and pick up a book.
Seriously.
rrrobinsonjr
06-28-2006, 10:49 AM
People just don't like change... that's the problem, not the changes...
Yes. I don't like change. And sure I'll get used to it. This particular change just seems unnecessarily annoying.
I guess it's just me.
rrrobinsonjr
06-28-2006, 10:53 AM
maybe you should stop watching TV and pick up a book.
Great point! It's hard to get motivated to read a book since I got TiVo though. I always have something good in my Now Playing list.....Can you blame me?
dirtypacman
06-28-2006, 11:04 AM
Better off being "Find Programs" then
"Here is the menu item that brings you to a search function that allows you to record programs with your Tivo"
That was their second choice but it did not get the final approval.
Best of luck getting used to it :)
ZeoTiVo
06-28-2006, 11:18 AM
Yes. I don't like change. And sure I'll get used to it. This particular change just seems unnecessarily annoying.
I guess it's just me.
I think it is just the satrt of larger things going on underneath those menus. With TiVocast starting to happen - find programs will become more that just scheduling a recording off your broadcast provider.
I look forward to the changes that going to "Find Programs" is just the start of. So you may as well get used to change becasue TiVo needs to keep chnaging and stay fresh to compete.
Think outside the box.
"Pick programs to record" implies the old VCR approach - schedule a recording from the broadcast content coming in to the box via antenna or cable.
"Find programs" is a lot more generic. Find a program you want to watch. Could be from your video source, just like the old VCR. But could also be from the internet. Or some other private video provider. Or Pay-Per-View. Doesn't matter where the program is - find it and make it available for watching on my TV.
Tivo doesn't change their user interface on a whim. I'm betting that "Find Programs" was changed to provide a more accurate description on the top menu for what they have planned for the future. Or I'm hoping that's the case. :)
I actually like the less verbiage, as it makes it stand out more from the other items... my eyes are now immediately drawn to that line item.
I like the change, but can't say my eyes are immediately drawn to it. Perhaps years of using DirecTivos is part of that.
I happen to think it would stand out better if it was the second item on the Tivo Central menu, right behind "Now Playing List" (instead of Watch Live TV)
Jonathan_S
06-28-2006, 11:45 AM
As long as they don't change the shortcut to get there (TiVo + 4) they can name the menu entry anything they like. :)
I don't think I've read it (or even selected it directly) in the last several years.
Scott in CO
06-28-2006, 11:51 AM
"Ewww! That little boy is PICKING his nose!!!"
"Actually, he looks upgraded. I think he is FINDING his nose, which is much less disgusting."
mrjam2jab
06-28-2006, 11:55 AM
I like the change, but can't say my eyes are immediately drawn to it. Perhaps years of using DirecTivos is part of that.
I happen to think it would stand out better if it was the second item on the Tivo Central menu, right behind "Now Playing List" (instead of Watch Live TV)
Yeah...why even have Watch Live TV as a menu selection anyway...when there is a button on the remote that takes you right to Live Tv??? Does anybody actually use that menu selection???
"Find Programs" actually makes sense since you go there to find programs to record... ;)
mchips
06-28-2006, 12:06 PM
Yeah...why even have Watch Live TV as a menu selection anyway...when there is a button on the remote that takes you right to Live Tv??? Does anybody actually use that menu selection??? I do... I use both...
I find the menu item convenient when my thumb is already on the navigation pad on the remote, popping around in the menus, and after coming out of the NPL, I then just down and right to get to Live TV... especially at night when the lights are out, sometimes it's easier to use the menu item than inadvertently ending up hitting Info or Guide instead on the remote... so, it just depends for me... I like and use both... I probably use the remote button more, but I do find the menu item useful as well...
nhaigh
06-28-2006, 12:51 PM
Well for what its worth when I want to "Find a Program" to watch the first place I look is in the "Now Playing" list. Ironically this list doesn't contain programs that are "Now Playing" and doesn't appear under the new "Find Programs" menu option. If it's not there I look to see if I can record it in the future so it will be there for me to find.
I support the OP - this change makes little sense to me. I don't expect any menu changes will stop people understanding that this menu is basically picking a program to be recorded in the future. Further half the options under it fail to find programs in the guide but still generate a recording in the future (wishlist's, manual records etc). Here I think we see TiVo marketing trying to look like it compares to VOD.
Bierboy
06-28-2006, 12:56 PM
"Ewww! That little boy is PICKING his nose!!!"
"Actually, he looks upgraded. I think he is FINDING his nose, which is much less disgusting."You like my self-portrait?
mchips
06-28-2006, 01:25 PM
Well for what its worth when I want to "Find a Program" to watch the first place I look is in the "Now Playing" list. Ironically this list doesn't contain programs that are "Now Playing"... If you have any programs recorded, then it does...
Anything recorded in that list is available to play now...
Think of it as a "Now Playing" list similar to that of a movie theatre, but instead of just movies, it also contains television programs... if you don't have anything available in your "Now Playing," that's only because you haven't recorded anything...
So, anything that has been recorded by your TiVo is available to play now in your "Now Playing" list... until it's deleted...
However, if you're looking for something that's "Now Airing," that's something else altogether, and perhaps might be a better name for "Live TV." :D
nhaigh
06-28-2006, 01:42 PM
Anything recorded in that list is available to play now...
Exactly "Now Playable" not "Now Playing". Live TV is Now Playing but if you are in a menu nothing recorded is currently playing, at very best it is currently paused.
mrjam2jab
06-28-2006, 02:02 PM
like a movie theatre....i think that is sorta what they were going for...hence the marquee lights and swiirling spotlights as the background "scenes"... ;-)
mick66
06-28-2006, 03:45 PM
Has anyone got the new update? I am so aggrevated by the new verbiage.
The interface has changed sublty with each new update, and up until now I've rolled with the punches. They've never been so drastic that it affected the continuity of the way one uses the menus.
For 3 years I've gone to "Pick programs to record" to update my SPM or review the "To Do" list, etc..
I am have a heckofatime getting used to the new menu....If they has at least called it "PICK" programs instead of "FIND" programs, it would have been a better transition.
:mad:
How very sad for you that this change has made Tivo so much more complicated to use.
BTW - http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=303194
Gospel
06-28-2006, 03:52 PM
Here is a suggestion. How aobut changing "Now Playing List" to "Found Programs" :eek: :D
Enjoy life!
Steven
rrrobinsonjr
06-28-2006, 03:58 PM
Well for what its worth when I want to "Find a Program" to watch the first place I look is in the "Now Playing" list. Ironically this list doesn't contain programs that are "Now Playing" and doesn't appear under the new "Find Programs" menu option. If it's not there I look to see if I can record it in the future so it will be there for me to find.
Well said
I happen to think it would stand out better if it was the second item on the Tivo Central menu, right behind "Now Playing List" (instead of Watch Live TV)
I agree. I don't think it needs to be eliminated. But a change of priority might be a good move.
mchips
06-28-2006, 05:53 PM
Well for what its worth when I want to "Find a Program" to watch the first place I look is in the "Now Playing" list. Ironically this list doesn't contain programs that are "Now Playing" and doesn't appear under the new "Find Programs" menu option. If it's not there I look to see if I can record it in the future so it will be there for me to find. Well said... Well said, if people aren't familiar with the "Now Playing" concept... I would hope that he wasn't being entirely serious with that comment.
Going to "Now Playing" is like walking into a movie theater, seeing what's playing at that theater on their "Now Playing" marquee, and then choosing a show to watch...
It's "Now Playing"... not "Now Playable"... not "Find a Movie to watch"...
If it's in the Now Playing on TiVo, it has already been found and recorded, so you're not really "finding" it there... unless you think you lost it... ;)
I can understand people not liking it because it's different... but not because it's confusing...
If it is, I would think it would take most people just once going into each menu item to realize "Now Playing" is for what has already been found and recorded and that "Find Programs" is for finding programs that have yet to be recorded...
rrrobinsonjr
06-28-2006, 06:13 PM
:D
This is the funniest thread I've ever read on this board.
nhaigh
06-28-2006, 06:18 PM
The OP was talking about the change in "Pick Programs to Record" and as I said I support his opinion.
Well said, if people aren't familiar with the "Now Playing" concept... I would hope that he wasn't being entirely serious with that comment.
Honestly, the point I was making with "Now Playing" was that was where I find programs. I was familiar with "Pick Programs to Record" as well. The way I view the world is I told TiVo what I like and want to watch and there is where I actually go to find my programs. The "Pick Programs to Record" in my view is where I educate TiVo. Once educated it sorts out the ones I like and puts them in "Now Playing".
Going to "Now Playing" is like walking into a movie theater, seeing what's playing at that theater on their "Now Playing" marquee, and then choosing a show to watch...
It may seem pedantic (this thread is inherently pedantic in nature) but "Now Playing" at a movie theatre really means that. Typically when you stand outside an open Theatre the show on the board is usually playing inside the theater. You however would be interested in the next showing.
My pedantic argument is that there is nothing currently playing in the "Now Playing" menu option. They are the shows available to be played, "Now Playable"
I can understand people not liking it because it's different... but not because it's confusing...
If it is, I would think it would take most people just once going into each menu item to realize "Now Playing" is for what has already been found and recorded and that "Find Programs" is for finding programs that have yet to be recorded...
And there is the point of the thread. It wasn't confusing in the first place so why did they change it? It didn't add any value or clarity. It possibly makes it a little less obvious that that is where recording are set up.
nhaigh
06-28-2006, 06:19 PM
:D
This is the funniest thread I've ever read on this board.
It appeals to me as well :D
nhaigh
06-28-2006, 06:24 PM
While we're at it can we sort out the mess that is behind the "Music, Photo's, Products and More" menu option. At least move "My Music" to the top !!!!!!
Only then will all be right with the world. :D ;)
mchips
06-28-2006, 06:40 PM
:D
This is the funniest thread I've ever read on this board. That's what many of us thought when we read the first post of this thread... so at least we're all in agreement there... ;)
rrrobinsonjr
06-28-2006, 08:21 PM
Hail, nhaigh!
HDTiVo
06-28-2006, 10:03 PM
Well, once i FIND 'em, how'm I gunna PICK 'em?????
Deacon West
06-28-2006, 11:34 PM
While we're at it can we sort out the mess that is behind the "Music, Photo's, Products and More" menu option. At least move "My Music" to the top !!!!!!
Only then will all be right with the world. :D ;)
I think you can find a TiVo like that at Bed, Bath & Beyond. Look in the Beyond section.
I think you can find a TiVo like that at Bed, Bath & Beyond. Look in the Beyond section.
Actually, I believe it's in the "Way Beyond" section.
Leon WIlkinson
06-29-2006, 11:48 AM
I think they should of used "Find New Programs."
Now Playing could use something new. Gateway To My Programs, never said I had a good suggestion. :D
mick66
06-29-2006, 01:15 PM
I think they should of used "Find New Programs."
I think they should have (or should've) used the same thing they've used all along rather than 'find programs' However, the quality of my life has not been the least bit affected by this change.
megazone
06-29-2006, 11:01 PM
I guess it's just me.No, it isn't. I really dislike it too. I thing 'Find Programs' is unfriendly and flat, 'un-TiVo'. After 4 years I also keep jumping to the end of TiVo Central because it used to be near the bottom, but was moved up recently. And it is just worse now that it is moved *and* doesn't pattern match what my brain is looking for.
I also think 'Find Programs' is less than informative and doesn't really represent what the options in that area are.
Of the various UI tweaks over the years, this is the one I think is just a mistake.
rrrobinsonjr
06-30-2006, 10:48 AM
Thanks Megazone. That makes up for all the ridicule.
Bierboy
06-30-2006, 11:06 AM
Thanks Megazone. That makes up for all the ridicule.Nah...there's ALWAYS more ridicule than common sense :rolleyes:
I agree it was not the smartest UI change TiVo's made, but I still say it's nothing near a showstopper. If they keep it, it'll just take some getting used to. If they don't than you'll have had your complaint legitimized.
mchips
06-30-2006, 02:40 PM
Thanks Megazone. That makes up for all the ridicule. In case you think I was, I was not trying to ridicule you, only responding in kind to how I was being responded to...
Megazone and I have already discussed this menu change, and I've been waiting for him to pop-in and give his thumbs-up... but he and I managed to disagree on this without making it personal.
I'm not saying I'd be upset if they changed it back, I liked it the way it was, but I also like it the way it is now, and feel each has its benefits, and can see why it may have been changed... I'm sure TiVo didn't just arbitrarily flip a coin and decide one day, why don't we just change it to see how many people we can piss off (I believe they have their reasons)... ;)
I didn't like it when I first saw the change, but after allowing time for it to grow on me, I like it...
Bottom line, I'm not affected either way, and it doesn't affect how I use my DVR... it took a brief adjustment to get used to it, then I was fine... and if they change it back, I'll have to go through another period of readjustment, but I'll still be fine either way...
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