American Idol "Episode #532" 5/16/06 *spoilers*

[Kamakzie]

According to yahoo TV listing this is what we can look forward to tonight.

Three finalists perform three songs -- one selected by music producer Clive Davis, one chosen by the show's judges and one of their own choosing.

Hopefully Katharine can get back to what got her this far. Oversinging will destroy her Idol dreams if she continues that route.

Elliott 1-866-IDOLS-01, 1-866-IDOLS-04 or 1-866-IDOLS-07 - the first song he is signing the Journey song "Open Arms" which is picked by Clive Davis.. He did okay on it but not the greatest for me. Paula picks "What you won't do for love". Not bad... Elliott picks "I believe to my soul". Hmmm I really didn't like it that much..

Katharine 1-866-IDOLS-02, 1-866-IDOLS-05 or 1-866-IDOLS-08 - Song 1 is "I believe I can fly". Looking great again. Did okay but oversang a little... The judges are going to be rough on her. Wow Simon handed out a compliment. Simon picks "Somewhere over the rainbow". Wow she nailed that one! I think she is back in the game. Hmmm Kat changed things up she picked "I ain't got nothing but the blues. I thought she did pretty good on it.

Taylor 1-866-IDOLS-03, 1-866-IDOLS-06 or 1-866-IDOLS-09 - song 1 is "dancing in the dark". Hmmm first time a Springsteen song has been on idol. LOL he left Paula dancing with herself! I think he had fun with the song. Please stop with the Soul Patrol stuff please! :)
Randy picks "You are so beautiful". I thought he did really well. Taylor picked "try a little tenderness". He did really good on this but this soul patrol reference is getting annoying. Neither of the other two get as annoying with their fans. :)

I think Kat may of saved herself. I think her and Taylor go to the finals.. Sorry Elliot.. :(

[debtoine]

Kat's second, and Taylor's second performance will get them to the finals, I think.

Kat just nailed it!

Toine

[HomieG]

Kat's second, and Taylor's second performance will get them to the finals, I think.

Kat just nailed it!

Toine


I agree. But I still don't get the Taylor Hicks schtick.

[Todd]

Kat definately nailed the second song! What was up with the songs they picked themselves though?? Why pick songs hardly anyone knows? Third round was not so good, especially for Elliot and Kat. See you next week, Kat and Taylor though!

[ZeoTiVo]

Soul Patrol :D

Elliot was just some boring contestant.

Kat oversings everything

Taylor is just "have a good time Funky"

[Chunky]

This whole thing is a complete joke! Yes Kat oversings sometimes, but she takes chances every time and creates runs and key changes that leave me asking, "how the hell did she do that?" I'm sorry, but these two guys she is up against completely bore me to no end. They are so predictable...sing the song like the original and add some gravel yells and ****** dance moves at the end. This is a complete joke! Randy gets on Kat on the last song saying she is trying to imitate Ella...who the heck was Elliot imitating - Ray Charles....Not one difference. The judges are doing what they can to sway the votes and it is a complete crock of *****! This is the last year for me. To believe for one minute that Elliot is a better singer than Kevin Covais...oh wait....nah about the same. To think he is better than Chris or a couple others that have fallen before him is insane. It slays me how Paula always stands and dances and then claps over her drunken head for these two guys and then rips Kat. This show completely sucks! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[ZeoTiVo]

I do agree that Kat can do vocal gymnastics like no one else on the show and the judges are trying to get a male they can put on the charts quickly. Chris was that guy- though he is much btter off joining a band like Fuel. They are not quite sure what to do with the two guys left ;)

still Kat does oversing everything and Taylor just entertains me with his act.

[ebonovic]

I haven't watched yet...

But have they mentioned anything about the reports of the "screwups" from last week?

Other then Ryan's "You have to vote"

[Figaro]

Elliot is going to need help from the Troll Patrol. He was sharp in every damn song, though not as sharp as he was in the dress rehearsal.

Katharine was handed a lemon with the first song. Did a nice job on Over the Rainbow but she got a little carried away with in the middle. Last song, why pick one that nobody knows? And why not get naked dammit?!?!?

Taylor shut the hell up! Oh man I was praying for a light to fall on that spaz! Why does he always have to look like he is trying to sit down and then he realizes that there isn't a chair there? What the hell is that? Oh well enough people are buying this schtick because it's "different." Even if he wins this I can't wait for a couple of years from now when he is back to singing at Alabama state fairs.

The muppet will win, the troll will fade into obscurity, and the oh so bouncy chick will end up on Broadway. Too bad she is too tall to play Belle in Beauty and the Beast, they have a 5'4" limit for that part. Maybe they will make an exception for her in order to fill seats.

[gschrock]

Hmm, I have to say, while I think Kat's second song (over the rainbow) was ok, it was far from great. The low stuff was a complete disaster. Can we say enunciate? Still, overall, I thought she did OK. Elliot I thought was pretty decent on the first song (and I don't really like him), but the other 2 were bleh at best. Taylor I think had the best evening by far, although maybe somone should give him a laxative for the constipation problems he was having in the third song. I thought the Joe Cocker song was excellent. Not quite a Bo's Badlands moment, but very good (course, that didn't help Bo much either).

Overall, Taylor, Kat, then Elliot IMHO. Bottom two could swap places depending on whether those that like Elliot show up or not.

[spartanstew]

I've never been a Kat fan.

That being said, her rendition of Over The Rainbow actually gave me chills. Fantastic.

That song will put her in the finals.

She'll be joined there by Taylor by process of elimination (Elliott sucked).

[debtoine]

Yep - Kat's "Over the rainbow" song gave me chills too. She did that very well, and she sang her way into the finals. Although, at dialidol.com, Elliot and Kat are very close.

Taylor and Kat in the finals... can't predict who will win that. Will the Elliot voters move over to Kat, or go to Taylor? If you believe dialidol.com, Taylor has been number 1/2 every week for a LONG time... that would mean he should win it easily.

T

[Turtleboy]

(Elliott sucked).

I've been saying that for weeks, but people keep voting him through.

Remember, he got more votes than Chris!

[Chunky]

(Elliott sucked).

He has all along...I could not believe my ears when Randy said he worked it out or whatever crap he said. Granted, the guy was in Journey after the monster love ballad hits era, but still....I knew when you guys said earlier today he was doing this song, that he'd completely butcher it and true to my prediction....I thot Open Arms was a complete disaster and Steve Perry always sang way too high for most guys and elliot just blew chunks on it. So, whoever the clown is that said his first song was decent...I sure hope it wasn't open arms cuz that stunk up the joint!

[Langree]

Kat showed one of her big issues tonight, she doesn't connect with the lyrics she sings, singing "I ain't got nothing but the blues" with a **** eating grin on your face doesn't correctly convey the song.

I do think Over the Rainbow will move her into next week with Taylor.

[BLeonard]

Taylor shut the hell up! Oh man I was praying for a light to fall on that spaz! Why does he always have to look like he is trying to sit down and then he realizes that there isn't a chair there? What the hell is that? Oh well enough people are buying this schtick because it's "different." Even if he wins this I can't wait for a couple of years from now when he is back to singing at Alabama state fairs..

Is anybody here old enough to remember Joe Cocker when he first became popular? Taylor's movements are very mild compared to Cocker before he went mainstream. Joe Cocker looked like he was having a seizure when he sang. I liked Joe Cocker!

I think Taylor is sort of a mix of a more modern Cocker along with Michael McDonald of the Doobie Brothers, and a mainstream lounge type singer.

I think Katherine did a great job with Somewhere over the rainbow. I love the song which makes it easier for someone to mess it up for me. Starting out acapella is also risky and she pulled it off.

I think we will probably see her and Taylor in the finals.

[Win Joy Jr]

Regarding Taylor's singing "The fist Bruce Springsteen song on American Idol", it is not correct. Earlier this season, someone (I don't remember who) sang "Because the Night", a Springsteen songe performed in his live sets, and given to Patty Smith (and 10,000 Maniacs covered it also).

[Kamakzie]

Regarding Taylor's singing "The fist Bruce Springsteen song on American Idol", it is not correct. Earlier this season, someone (I don't remember who) sang "Because the Night", a Springsteen songe performed in his live sets, and given to Patty Smith (and 10,000 Maniacs covered it also).

I guess someone misinformed him. Sounded like Clive had to call and get Bruce's permission though.

[MickeS]

This whole thing is a complete joke! Yes Kat oversings sometimes, but she takes chances every time and creates runs and key changes that leave me asking, "how the hell did she do that?"

Funny, I always think "why the hell did she do that?" :D

Seriously, she manages to find a way to mess up a perfectly simple song. And she should try and sing everything at least half a note higher, in order to avoid those terrible lows. She did however do a GREAT job with "Over the rainbow".

Just like Katharine, Elliott has a good voice somewhere in there, but it needs coaching. He either finishes every word that ends in a vowel with the sheep-like, overstated vibrato which drives me nuts, or with some weird opera-like holding of the note just a little bit too long. Both ways sound awful.

Also, both of them clearly do not understand their current vocal limitations. The songs they choice did absolutely nothing for their voices. The songs chosen by the judges on the other hand were their best performances in a long time, perhaps of the season.

Taylor, on the other hand, knows his voice and the range he has, and tries to pick songs that work with his voice. I didn't think either of his three performances were as good as Kat's and Elliott's second performances - but he is much more consistent overall.

I voted for Taylor and Katherine. I simply can not stand Elliott... he is so freaking ugly, and his vocals drive me nuts. But there are moments when he sings where is is really, really good. I hope he can figure out how to get rid of the bad and keep the good, and I actually think he can have a decent career.

[SullyND]

Chris would have been my pick.... But Taylor will be my choice now. Idol did a good job of cleaning up elliot (I swear he looked like a meth head when the show started) but he's still troll looking, and all his songs sound the same. I like Kat, but I wish she wouldn't talk. I swear when she talks I have Pickler flashbacks.

[danielhart]

There was just something missing in the performances tonight......


Chris Daughtry.



That said, Kat's OTR was definitely the performance of the night, and probably her best this season. As exquisite as it was there were a still couple parts where she went to a place she didn't need to go....but she has a beautiful instrument that will do well under the supervsion of a good producer in the studio...

Taylor and Kat in the finals

Taylor wins it all, unless Kat pulls off three songs next week that are at the level of her OTR performance and Taylor tanks....

[spikedavis]

I honestly have no clue how Taylor has gotten this far. If you still have it on your tivo, play it again and close your eyes when he's singing. It's just not good.

[dandrewk]

Of the three, Kat would be the biggest success as an Idol. Maybe more so than any of the four who preceded her, she is SO ready. Did you guys notice that Clive Owen used the phrase "When we record together"? Sounds like he thinks she is Arista material.

That said... Taylor still has a shot, IF he does Seger next week. He IS Seger. The only question is: Which Seger song? Old Time Rock and Roll? Against the Wind? Katmandu? Rock and Roll Never Forgets.

[MickeS]

I honestly have no clue how Taylor has gotten this far. If you still have it on your tivo, play it again and close your eyes when he's singing. It's just not good.

I have, and I stil think he's pretty good... it's also the only way I can tolerate Elliott's performances. :D

[Ntombi]

Funny, I always think "why the hell did she do that?" :D

Seriously, she manages to find a way to mess up a perfectly simple song. And she should try and sing everything at least half a note higher, in order to avoid those terrible lows. She did however do a GREAT job with "Over the rainbow".

Just like Katharine, Elliott has a good voice somewhere in there, but it needs coaching. He either finishes every word that ends in a vowel with the sheep-like, overstated vibrato which drives me nuts, or with some weird opera-like holding of the note just a little bit too long. Both ways sound awful.

Also, both of them clearly do not understand their current vocal limitations. The songs they choice did absolutely nothing for their voices. The songs chosen by the judges on the other hand were their best performances in a long time, perhaps of the season.

Taylor, on the other hand, knows his voice and the range he has, and tries to pick songs that work with his voice. I didn't think either of his three performances were as good as Kat's and Elliott's second performances - but he is much more consistent overall.
ITA! :up:

I've liked Elliot since the beginning, but he's not ready for the big leagues yet. He needs more training, and I'd be happy to buy his songs in a few years. His looks don't bother me as much as his lack of understanding of music. He has good instincts, but they need to be honed.

Katherine is talented, but she needs to get over the misconception that she has a big voice. She doesn't. She needs to stop picking songs that need a big voice, or change the arrangements enough so that it's not missed.

Taylor is the most musically mature performer, and has been my favorite since the auditions. I'm thrilled that he's done so well, and I spent almost an hour voting for him, or trying to, anyway. I could only get through about 25% of the time, so I hope that's a good sign.

[spikedavis]

Simon must be freaking out-He knows that Katharine is the only hope for selling CDs. There's no one looking for a Taylor Hicks CD-he's a performer-not a singer...

[buckeye1010]

... "I ain't got nothing but the blues" with a **** eating grin on your face doesn't correctly convey the song.


Good point!

[laststarfighter]

Kat showed one of her big issues tonight, she doesn't connect with the lyrics she sings, singing "I ain't got nothing but the blues" with a **** eating grin on your face doesn't correctly convey the song.

I do think Over the Rainbow will move her into next week with Taylor.

This is my biggest pet peeve on Idol. :mad:

[smickola]

Boy, they really tried to sabotage Kat with Clive Davis' selection for her, "I Believe I Can Fly"...what a crappy, tired, overwrought song, totally unsuited to her strengths...it's so bombastic you can't do anything BUT over-sing it. And it was really ridiculous of Randy to try and put her down for the song choice...good thing she protested that she didn't choose it, you could tell she wasn't happy with the selection.

Overall, "Over The Rainbow" was the best performance of the evening, and probably of the whole season...that alone will get Kat into the finals. Elliot was OK, but he just didn't get into the groove with his songs, they all fell kind of flat. I think Taylor's a lock to win it, all three of his performances were good, especially "Try A Little Tenderness." He's the only one who seems to have any idea of how to pick a song that showcases his strengths.

[mask2343]

Taylor back in the #1 spot on Dial Idol. A virtual crapshoot between Kat and Elliot for the second spot. I think Elliot will face the wrath of the Daughtry fiasco and head home. He didn't do as well as last week.

This is still Taylor's year. There is just something off about Kat.

I hope the original songs are good. They should let Taylor sing one of his originals like "Hell of a Day". The guy is great when he sings his type of music.

[ThomasDrew]

This is still Taylor's year. There is just something off about Kat.




You are correct about Taylor. I guess it's time for a blue-collar, "everyman", wedding singer type Idol... :eek: I sure hope the producers/judges know what they've gotten themselves into.....

Katherine showed last night that she is capable of brilliance when she simply SINGS the song and doesn't try and overpower it. She has a lovely voice of her own...I wish she would stop trying to channel the elite vocalists (when she in fact is merely excellent) It leaves listeners with an underwhelming impression and wanting more.

[newsposter]

Are there any people under 25ish here? I haven't looked up demographics but figured the kids with their ipods etc are the focus groups they are trying to reach. And I can't believe than teens etc would really pick an old looking man that can dance (wont quantify how so as not to start that war ;)) as an idol? Perhaps I dont know my demographics or maybe America really doesn't care about looks. And i'm not up to date on all the new singers out there. How many are like taylor? Just can't see it happening. Even the judges say the bluesy stuff is his, and that's fine, everyone is great at something. But i can't see that being the type of Pop people want.

Also, and this comes from my couch buddy, he has no range. some of that cocker song was supposed to be sung a lot higher, even we knew that. And he always looks like he's gonna puke or pass out or something.

go kat

[Cboath]

That said... Taylor still has a shot, IF he does Seger next week. He IS Seger. The only question is: Which Seger song? Old Time Rock and Roll? Against the Wind? Katmandu? Rock and Roll Never Forgets.

I agree. Along with Walkin in Memphis, I have wanted to hear him do mainstreet. :up:


EDIT: Got my Seger songs confused. Though I would love to hear Mainstreet, I menat to say Night Moves. :o

[bigcb37]

Elliot has a great voice.

My problem with him is that he is a terrible performer. He doesnt really move around and ellicit any kind of response from the audience. If he moved around more then people wouldnt focus so much on his looks (read teeth)

Elliot chose a great song last night for himself with perfect lyrics, but he didnt look like he meant any of them. He never connects with the song. Taylor is excellent at this. Elliot just stands up there and sings them... well, I might add, but in the end its boring.

[jlb]

I hope the original songs are good. They should let Taylor sing one of his originals like "Hell of a Day". The guy is great when he sings his type of music.

I agree. I would also love to hear him sing "Soul Thing".......It's a good thing, it ain't no country twang, it's a simple refrain, it's a soul thing..........

I have to admit, though I want Taylor to win, and I love his music, the soulpatrol plugs are getting a little redundant........ www.graycharles.com

[DaveBogart]

Only 2 people who can actually sing this year on Idol: Kat and Paris. True, Paris was annoying as all get-out, but man could she sing! And how anybody can find much fault in Kat's voice, speaking or singing, is beyond me. The sounds she makes are a thing of beauty. I'll bet when she farts it's a heavenly sound she produces.

[mask2343]

I'd be more worried that Kat wouldn't sell records than Taylor. What is she gonna sing? Over the Rainbow isn't exactly the style of music that sells today. Can she sing pop songs or just ballads? I think she is great, but would be unsure of how to market her. Elliot is a great singer, just a terrible performer (as said before). Taylor is kind of old school soul sound that is doing well now (James Blunt, Daniel Powter, Jack Johnson). He could play on everything from pop, country, adult contemporary, and classic rock stations. I have some of his songs on my ipod and can't believe that it took AI to discover how good he is.

[KalaPela]

Kat has seemed to have a bit of an attitude the entire season and that face she made while Paula was searching for something to say really made me dislike her.

Kat can sing but I can imagine shes a hard person to work with.

[DaveBogart]

Kat can sing but I can imagine shes a hard person to work with.Good thing the show isn't called "Easy Going American Idol" then. I saw the face she made as well and would rather she hadn't done that, but I think it was just exasperation she was showing over being unable to please Paula, no matter what she does.

[wooh]

I'll bet when she farts it's a heavenly sound she produces.
But does her a$$ stare at the camera and smile inappropriately when she farts?

[snodgrass23]

Good thing the show isn't called "Easy Going American Idol" then. I saw the face she made as well and would rather she hadn't done that, but I think it was just exasperation she was showing over being unable to please Paula, no matter what she does.

That's what I saw too. She sees Paula gushing over the others (especially Elliot), and eveytime she thinks she does a good job Paula and Randy slam her. Did I miss it, or was Kat the only one without the hometown clip for the second song? It was like they spent more time on Taylor and Elliot, since the show obviously favors them, and just skipped through Kat's. Remember, she didn't pick a modern song because she was tired of getting slammed everytime she picks a Whitney type song, and then Randy slams her saying she was trying to be Ella F. I think she's just starting to feel a bit beat down and like she can't do anything right even though she feels she's doing a good job.

I'm sure I'm biased since I've liked Kat from the beginning, but it just seems she has a more enjoyable voice to listen to. She uses her vibrato correctly and shows great dynamics throughout her songs. Even on her poorer performances, I still enjoy them.

For Elliot, I'm starting to skip half of his performances. He bores me horribly and I hate the tone of his voice. I can't stand the way he looks on stage and if I close my eyes, all I hear is that horrible vibrato. I do like Taylor though, and have been rooting for him for a while as well. Sometimes he gets too "wedding singer" for me though, and screaming soul patrol all the time gets old as well.

[DaveBogart]

But does her a$$ stare at the camera and smile inappropriately when she farts?Don't know. But I'd sure like to see it!

[KalaPela]

Good thing the show isn't called "Easy Going American Idol" then. I saw the face she made as well and would rather she hadn't done that, but I think it was just exasperation she was showing over being unable to please Paula, no matter what she does.

No, it isn't...but when the competition you're in is based on popularity, you can at least act as if you're moderately personable.

[DaveBogart]

No, it isn't...but when the competition you're in is based on popularity, you can at least act as if you're moderately personable.I would tend to think she is personable, but rather immature and probably not too sure of herself. I think she probably doesn't know how to express herself just yet. With the proper guidance, I believe she will fly.

[marksman]

Never been a big Taylor fan, but I think he was the best of the three overall tonight. Considering how he has been leading most of the way, I suspect it will be very hard for either of the other two to beat him.

[billypritchard]

Did I miss it, or was Kat the only one without the hometown clip for the second song? It was like they spent more time on Taylor and Elliot, since the show obviously favors them, and just skipped through Kat's.


You missed it. They showed Kat in LA at what I would guess is her old high school, finding out what song Simon picked for her.

If you want favoritism, why did Kat get by far the most song time of any of the three? Her SOTR was well over 2 minutes, unusual for the show. And her other songs weren't short to make up for it either. For me, I watched the show thinking the producers definitely wanted a girl and a guy in the final, and they know Taylor is their main guy. The minor smack Kat got in the first song will be good to mobilize her troops, and the heaping praise on SOTR should get any fence-sitters voting for her.

Note - Pro-Elliot, Pro-Taylor bias is included in this comment. I find them both much more compelling than Kat, though she was probably my third favorite. This year has been a great year!

[BrettStah]

I think Katharine was ticked off, maybe because Paula has been trying to sway people against her so that Paula's favorite, the troll, makes it through to the next round, at Katharine's expense.

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[richNYC]

There is just something off about Kat.She's gorgeous and has a lovely voice (in spite of her failed attempts to overdo it now and then), but she performs with a complete lack of soul or edge or cool - she's the Stepford Idol.

To me, she occasionally comes off as a spoiled brat - not endearing.

[newsposter]

i think it's good she finally got revenge calling them out on their favoritism. It's painfully obvious that esp. paula likes the boys (no need to digress). And even though (i'm pretty sure) she had the most range out of the 3, they dont seem to care.

Simon apparently agreed that she was getting a raw deal so gave her a boost this show. So i guess he can't be all that bad.

I still wanna see a show w/o the judges...we dont need to hear what they say...we are here to pick someone that we like!

[DaveBogart]

She's gorgeous and has a lovely voice (in spite of her failed attempts to overdo it now and then), but she performs with a complete lack of soul or edge or cool - she's the Stepford Idol.

To me, she occasionally comes off as a spoiled brat - not endearing.And all that can be so easily overcome with the proper coaching. Look how she was able to stop with the breast thrust. While I enjoyed watching that, it was out of place and made her look like she might have a lower-back tattoo. Somebody coached her to not do that and it stuck. She has more raw, natural talent and more potential than anybody I've ever seen on this show. But she needs to be worked with.

[Langree]

she's the Stepford Idol.



That's it right there, she doesn't connect with what she's singing, a truly great singer makes you believe the songs they sing are about things they've seen/life they've lived.

Kat doesn't do that.

[TAsunder]

I have an idea for a south park episode. In it, timmy gets a backstage pass to watch american idol, and has a conversation with taylor hicks.

"Woooooo"
"Timmy!"
"Soul patrol, soul patrol, SOUL PATROL"
"TIMMY! Timmy timmy, timmy, TIMMY!"
"Soul Patrol, Wooo, Soul patrol"

I enjoyed elliot's first performance a bit, it had me wondering if he was going to do well, then his next two songs sucked hard.

The thing about kat that I noticed is, she can't just hit the high notes directly. She does this weird thing where she goes from low to high slowly, almost as if her voice has a dial and she slowly turns it until it hits the right note. Then the high note, once hit, always has that same grating sound to it.

[Zaui]

That's it right there, she doesn't connect with what she's singing, a truly great singer makes you believe the songs they sing are about things they've seen/life they've lived.

Kat doesn't do that.

You know why we can't feel her song? It's because when she sings.... she smiles all the time and tries to be cute! Pop Icons don't do this. If the song is not a happy song, they sing seriously. And this is what Taylor has.

[Jebberwocky!]

Taylor continues to lead the pack and his win will be well deserved.

Oh, and Chris' is gone - get over it already ;)

I may be in the minority but Kat's second song, somewhere over the rainbow was painful to listen to, started out ugly and was better once she got into the meat of the song and then went back to painful. While she does have a great voice, is very easy on the eyes I think she's a little immature compared to the rest of the talent. Always smiling at the inappropriate time, not to mention her song choices leave me wondering ???

Elliot has an instrument for a voice but is hard to watch as a result of his complete lack of charisma.

[TAsunder]

Elliot and Kat have the same problem to me. Even though taylor looks like a freak when he performs, he looks genuine. Elliot and Kat seem to be hamming it up all the time and never just immerse themselves in the performance. Someone has incorrectly told Kat that looking into the camera all the time is good. In fact it's bad.

[bluetex]

Last night ...

Elliot couldn't find a pitch to save his life. Again he attacks every phrase with the voicebox squeezed and over the pitch enough to make me cringe. I can't see what everyone sees in this guy. His voice is a mess. His look is a mess. He's got the personality of a wet washrag compared to Taylor, and looks like a frog compared to Kat. How anyone thinks he's better than Chris is amazing to me.

Taylor was a performer and a goof, and if America likes that.. then ok. I don't find it fun to watch (more painful than fun really) and I agree his "Soul Patrol" reference is bordering on Tourette's syndrome now. Is he making money off that or something like Paris Hilton and "That's Hot"? The guy can sing, though I REALLY felt like he chowed on the Joe Cocker song -- and the Judges were listening to a different audio feed than me.

Kat was (as usual) easy to look at. Her SOTR was bone chilling. Her first song.. meh, her last -- I understand moving away from the modern to avoid the comparison to others. Only the middle song had any real impact on me. When she gets off her feet and sits -- she does very well. I would have admired her more if she didn't use the monitor in her ear for the pitch through the a-capella verse prior to the "oh yeah" part of the song. Her pitch was good through it with the help and I was waiting for the train wreck when the band came in. She scoops like a pop singer and has some terrible vowels -- but that's my classical training chiming in now. Vocally, she has 2x the voice of anyone else up there now that Chris is gone.

[Figaro]

Last night ...

Elliot couldn't find a pitch to save his life. Again he attacks every phrase with the voicebox squeezed and over the pitch enough to make me cringe. I can't see what everyone sees in this guy. His voice is a mess. His look is a mess. He's got the personality of a wet washrag compared to Taylor, and looks like a frog compared to Kat. How anyone thinks he's better than Chris is amazing to me.

Taylor was a performer and a goof, and if America likes that.. then ok. I don't find it fun to watch (more painful than fun really) and I agree his "Soul Patrol" reference is bordering on Tourette's syndrome now. Is he making money off that or something like Paris Hilton and "That's Hot"? The guy can sing, though I REALLY felt like he chowed on the Joe Cocker song -- and the Judges were listening to a different audio feed than me.

Kat was (as usual) easy to look at. Her SOTR was bone chilling. Her first song.. meh, her last -- I understand moving away from the modern to avoid the comparison to others. Only the middle song had any real impact on me. When she gets off her feet and sits -- she does very well. I would have admired her more if she didn't use the monitor in her ear for the pitch through the a-capella verse prior to the "oh yeah" part of the song. Her pitch was good through it with the help and I was waiting for the train wreck when the band came in. She scoops like a pop singer and has some terrible vowels -- but that's my classical training chiming in now. Vocally, she has 2x the voice of anyone else up there now that Chris is gone.

Who cares if she was using a monitor? How do you know that was for pitch and not just to hear herself? That is not exactly an acustically friendly space that they are singing in. Scoops like a pop star? It's a show looking for a pop star, it's not American Lieder Idol. ;)

And Elliot says:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5742/elliot4eq.jpg
Troll Patrol! *Too be read in an Adam Sandleresque voice.

[cpalma]

My brain hurts from reading all these messages...Elliott this, Taylor & Kat that. I'm not even going to go there.

I just want to point out that while the Idols may pick their songs, they have vocal coaches, arrangers, and producers/directors that make them do stuff to those songs.

Did you notice last night, during Elliott's first song, the camera panned around him and it's almost like he saw it out of the corner of his eye, then swung his head around to look into that camera, then back to the other one. I believe they are told to look into the camera (even if it is at an inappropriate point in the song).

I also think Taylor looks so comfortable up on that stage and with the cameras, song choice, working with a live band, and audience because he has had tons of practice. He's been on stage for a very long time, and has songs available for download. The other two are amatuer singers, which is what I thought AI's intention was from the beginning.

[bluetex]

Who cares if she was using a monitor? How do you know that was for pitch and not just to hear herself? That is not exactly an acustically friendly space that they are singing in. Scoops like a pop star? It's a show looking for a pop star, it's not American Lieder Idol. ;)

Very good points. That hall is big and probably very much a warehouse. I KNOW the other two boys couldn't have pulled off any a-capella anything and made it sound interesting at all.

She's a pop star -- It looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sings like a duck -- must be a duck! I think overall we agree that Kat has the guns to win this (and her voice is nice too) bah-dum-pum! Scooping is kewl - she shanked a couple of them last night but not enough for me cause the cringe-fest of the Troll boy.


And Elliot says: <image>Troll Patrol![/SIZE] *Too be read in an Adam Sandleresque voice.


OMG that makes me laugh every time.

I'm just waiting now for the other shoe to fall.. and America to disappoint me by kicking Kat to the curb tonight. I have a sinking feeling about this.

[aindik]

In the other thread, it was reported that Katharine's own pick would be "Damn, I Feel Like a Woman" by Shania Twain. I didn't like her third performance of the song I never heard, but I would have hated Shania more.

I made fun of Simon for picking Somewhere Over the Rainbow, but Katharine's performance of that was really great. Her other two, though, were not very good, and were way oversung, especially the third. Randy was right when he told her to just sing the damn song. And her attitude pissed off my wife (not me, as much), who thought she should have been gracious and "taken it like a man." It seems that when Katharine is allowed to choose anything herself (her clothes, her songs...) she chooses poorly. When Simon picked a song for her, it worked out great.

Taylor's three performances were good for what he is, but he does seem to drop a lot of words because (it seems) he runs out of breath.

Elliot sounds good, but he picks songs nobody knows, and is boring. And, his "Open Arms" was slower than the original (which, as a ballad, was slow enough). It seemed to drag in the choruses.

As for Clive Davis? I can't forgive him for what he did to Bo Bice. That will always color my impression of him as a cheezy pop machine.

I don't think the contestants get to pick new songs next week. Last year, I remember it being them singing their favorite song that they've already sung, plus the new Idol single (or two) (which, last year, Randy said sucked, and he was right). So, although I'd like to hear Taylor tackle Seger too, I think it's too late.

[mask2343]

Did you notice last night, during Elliott's first song, the camera panned around him and it's almost like he saw it out of the corner of his eye, then swung his head around to look into that camera, then back to the other one. I believe they are told to look into the camera (even if it is at an inappropriate point in the song).
Of course they look in the camera...when the red light comes on you look in that camera. They are performing for us the viewers. Elliot just missed the change of the red light.

[Chunky]

Kat has seemed to have a bit of an attitude the entire season and that face she made while Paula was searching for something to say really made me dislike her.

Kat can sing but I can imagine shes a hard person to work with.

You guys continue to miss the mark here. Yes it isn't just a singing competition to the mass viewers, but most people on here try to discuss actual talent. The fact of the matter is, Kat is in a completely different league than these other two guys. Hands down. To me, it is like a diving competiton or something that takes into account a degree of difficulty. These two guys seriously don't have a great deal of talent and are not that good of singers. They sing songs that have that soul thing going. Usually singing the song straight up til the end and adding a couple shouts and if you listen, the song will sing a line and then have a measure of nothing. It is all basic stuff here folks. If I smoked a few packs of cigs and could attain that gravel like hoarse sound, I could be up there. Kat takes risks from the get go. Her degree of difficulty is way out of the others leagues. She does some runs or key changes that I hang on to the couch wondering how she is going to pull out of it and she always does. Many times I am left wondering how she did it, but it all worked out. That is degree of difficulty that the other two just don't play with. Lets face it, Seger, Springsteen, Charles and whoever else we have mimicked are or were successful...not very good singers...but successful with what they do and they're writing etc....copying this is not going to make an 'idol' by any stretch.

Randy really pisses me off....Clive picks a song....he says to Kat something to the effect...."Not a good song choice!" They all say that she didn't pick it and he shrugs if off. When Elliot or Taylor went....it "was a good song choice" like they picked it - even when it wasn't their pick. These judges have really outlived their usefulness on this show and to be there to berate someone in order to sway the public vote defeats the purpose of this show.

All this said, I know Taylor will win...I think there are too many sexually unsatisfied, horny, middle-aged married women out there that fantasize about him for whatever reason. I think it has to do with that youth, yet the whole gray hair thing....innocent but not???? Who knows :confused:

[Chunky]

That's what I saw too. She sees Paula gushing over the others (especially Elliot), and eveytime she thinks she does a good job Paula and Randy slam her. Did I miss it, or was Kat the only one without the hometown clip for the second song? It was like they spent more time on Taylor and Elliot, since the show obviously favors them, and just skipped through Kat's. Remember, she didn't pick a modern song because she was tired of getting slammed everytime she picks a Whitney type song, and then Randy slams her saying she was trying to be Ella F. I think she's just starting to feel a bit beat down and like she can't do anything right even though she feels she's doing a good job.

I'm sure I'm biased since I've liked Kat from the beginning, but it just seems she has a more enjoyable voice to listen to. She uses her vibrato correctly and shows great dynamics throughout her songs. Even on her poorer performances, I still enjoy them.

For Elliot, I'm starting to skip half of his performances. He bores me horribly and I hate the tone of his voice. I can't stand the way he looks on stage and if I close my eyes, all I hear is that horrible vibrato. I do like Taylor though, and have been rooting for him for a while as well. Sometimes he gets too "wedding singer" for me though, and screaming soul patrol all the time gets old as well.


No I think they did a hometown thing with her mayor too...but your post is right on the mark...you can see Paula up and dancing or her hands clapping over her head on every song by these two guys but never by Kat. I was nearly floored when she did stand up and tell her that she was good on OTR. But she doesn't sway the public like she goes on about the other two. I mean, didn't she cry over Elliot once? What the hell was that?

I'm with you 100% :up:

[newsposter]

Randy really pisses me off....Clive picks a song....he says to Kat something to the effect...."Not a good song choice!" They all say that she didn't pick it and he shrugs if off.

These judges have really outlived their usefulness on this show and to be there to berate someone in order to sway the public vote defeats the purpose of this show.

:

I did love how simon called randy on that. Especially since i think clive wasn't sitting all that far away. I'm no far of clive (indifferent really) but thought it unprofessional of randy to diss clive....especially publicly.

I dont think any of the 3 had a great song for 'their' pick. Shouldn't "your" song be your absolute "favoriteististwonderful" in the whole world ? Just didn't seem that for me that each of them picked their best.

Does even paula's biggest advocate think she's not on something? Was really bad last night.

[jlb]

As for Clive Davis? I can't forgive him for what he did to Bo Bice. That will always color my impression of him as a cheezy pop machine.


A vociferous second to that.......Bo's solo album is so much the opposite of Sugarmoney's Recipe for Flavor. Oh well. Here's hoping Clive doesn't f*** with Taylor.

[dandrewk]

Kat has an attitude, but I don't think it's ingrained in her personality. She's 21, and a bit immature. Besides... how many stars don't have attitudes? She over-sings, but that won't be a problem with the help of vocal coaches and sure-handed producers.

Watching her do "Over the Rainbow" last night was her breakthrough. It was different from Garland, she made it her own, and she did it DAMN good. That's a feat, considering Garland's legendary rendition.

Her performance reminded me of Garland in another way: "A Star Is Born". She will be in the finals, and if she does as well next week, she will be the next Idol.

[Havana Brown]

Is anybody here old enough to remember Joe Cocker when he first became popular? Taylor's movements are very mild compared to Cocker before he went mainstream. Joe Cocker looked like he was having a seizure when he sang. I liked Joe Cocker!



I expected Taylor to sing that last note high, like Joe Cocker, even though to me it never sounds like it's in tune, but that's how the song goes. He didn't do it.

I'm really trying to understand the Elliott love. I thought his 2 and 3 songs were great, but Journey? How could he sing a Journey song when Randy was in Journey? I would be peeing my pants. It would be like Kat singing a "Straight Up" by Paula Abdul. I thought the Journey song sounded terrible!

Kat does nothing for me. I can't stand that she wore jeans in her second song. I thought she looked nice in the blue dress, but if she had put her hair back or up y'all woulda had a nice shot of the Mcboobies. Sorry, fellas.

[Chunky]

Kat has an attitude, but I don't think it's ingrained in her personality.

Alot of this attitude has developed over the course of the continual pointed comments by the 'judges' to sway the public vote. This started even before her awesome performance that Simon came back and recanted his comments. If I were her, I'd tell em all to kiss my ass - that would be attitude and rightly justified! :D

[ILoveCats&Tivo]

This whole thing is a complete joke! Yes Kat oversings sometimes, but she takes chances every time and creates runs and key changes that leave me asking, "how the hell did she do that?" I'm sorry, but these two guys she is up against completely bore me to no end. They are so predictable...sing the song like the original and add some gravel yells and ****** dance moves at the end. This is a complete joke! Randy gets on Kat on the last song saying she is trying to imitate Ella...who the heck was Elliot imitating - Ray Charles....Not one difference. The judges are doing what they can to sway the votes and it is a complete crock of *****! This is the last year for me. To believe for one minute that Elliot is a better singer than Kevin Covais...oh wait....nah about the same. To think he is better than Chris or a couple others that have fallen before him is insane. It slays me how Paula always stands and dances and then claps over her drunken head for these two guys and then rips Kat. This show completely sucks! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Chunky. I could not agree more. But I gave up after last week because it is just a joke. For those of you who do not like who is left, why did you still watch? :down: I'm done with it. (But I still had to pop in here to hear the gossip :D )

[Chunky]

I expected Taylor to sing that last note high, like Joe Cocker, even though to me it never sounds like it's in tune, but that's how the song goes. He didn't do it.

I'm really trying to understand the Elliott love. I thought his 2 and 3 songs were great, but Journey? How could he sing a Journey song when Randy was in Journey? I would be peeing my pants. It would be like Kat singing a "Straight Up" by Paula Abdul. I thought the Journey song sounded terrible!

Kat does nothing for me. I can't stand that she wore jeans in her second song. I thought she looked nice in the blue dress, but if she had put her hair back or up y'all woulda had a nice shot of the Mcboobies. Sorry, fellas.

Why is it that you consistently point out the others actual singing, but when it comes to Kat, it is all talk of how she looks? You remind me of the 'judges' trying to persuade me that she is not hot....good freakin luck!

Taylor didn't sing the high note cuz he is not into taking risks vocally. He doesn't mind looking like a jackass on stage, but he does not have the vocal abilities or range. If it isn't a gravel grunt...it ain't gonna happen.

[Granny]

I couldn't believe Simon picked Over the Rainbow for Katharine. That is supposed to help America pick a pop idol for the year 2006? He would have slammed anyone else for picking such an old song, almost like he had to go into the archives to find something he felt she would sound good doing. I would love to have heard her do it a la Judy Garland. I am so sick of the Mariah Carey trills and runs. Randy told her after her first song, sometimes you need to just sing the melody. I find her screechy when she tries to hit the high notes.

I think Elliott is a really good singer, but the criticisms about his appearance are valid. He needs dental work, and lifts in his shoes. Anyone who makes Seacrest look tall is indeed short!

While I do think Taylor will be the next Idol, I am really sick of the "soul patrol" thing. Does anyone know what the deal is with that?

[Havana Brown]

Why is it that you consistently point out the others actual singing, but when it comes to Kat, it is all talk of how she looks? You remind me of the 'judges' trying to persuade me that she is not hot....good freakin luck!



Because I"m a girl. :D Meow!

[dandrewk]

I've always thought, to a certain extent, that Simon is the mouthpiece of the AI producers. They have an investment in the continual success of the show, plus I think they get a cut of the winner's future earnings (of course, they are bankrolling his/her first album). So... bank-ability is paramount, and they want somebody they can market.

Thus... Eliot hasn't a chance. He would be their worst nightmare in terms of promotability. I suspect they prefer a male, and would have killed to get Ace as the Idol... but Ace didn't have the sack for the job.

I am not sure at this point who they would prefer, Kat or Taylor. Kat would be the easiest. It all comes down to how much they want a male this season... just to even things out.

I realize they don't get the final vote -we do. But does anyone else think that Simon (more or less) speaks for them?

[mgar]

Kat has an attitude, but I don't think it's ingrained in her personality. She's 21, and a bit immature. Besides... how many stars don't have attitudes? She over-sings, but that won't be a problem with the help of vocal coaches and sure-handed producers.
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My impression is that she is a bit shell shocked by the criticism from the judges. She really doesn't know what to do. I am sure she is getting a lot of coaching, and singing the songs the way she is being coached. She then comes out and performs on par with Elliot and gets slammed.

I like her response to Randy when he said he didn't like the song selection. She called him on it as she should have.

I do agree that she lacks maturity, and doesn't always connect with the song. During "Over the Rainbow", I think she finally connected emotionally with a song and showed us what she can do.

Elliot has the same problem, he doesnt connect with the songs either.

[aindik]

You guys continue to miss the mark here. Yes it isn't just a Kat takes risks from the get go. Her degree of difficulty is way out of the others leagues. She does some runs or key changes that I hang on to the couch wondering how she is going to pull out of it and she always does. Many times I am left wondering how she did it, but it all worked out. That is degree of difficulty that the other two just don't play with.

People don't buy music based on how difficult it is to perform. They buy it based on how pleasing it is to their ear. Whether she is talented and whether what she does sounds good are two separate questions.

[dandrewk]

I'm really trying to understand the Elliott love. I thought his 2 and 3 songs were great, but Journey? How could he sing a Journey song when Randy was in Journey?

I agree. I liked Elliot a lot more last night, but that tremolo in is voice is irritating. No way could he have done that song. Steve Perry may have been one of the biggest jerks in the music business, but damn, that guy could sing, and "Open Arms" was his best vocals. Elliot doesn't have that pitch, range, or soulfulness. Not even Ace, doing his falsetto thing, could have hit those high notes.

[Chunky]

People don't buy music based on how difficult it is to perform. They buy it based on how pleasing it is to their ear. Whether she is talented and whether what she does sounds good are two separate questions.

'We' are not selling music at this point! 'We' are providing a stage for selecting the person that will sell the most in the future. This 'competition' isn't the end-all. It is the beginning. You have seen all Taylor and Elliot have to offer - that is my direction with the degree of difficulty. And when it comes to singing....talent is sounding good, so no they really aren't 'two separate questions'.

[Figaro]

I agree. I liked Elliot a lot more last night, but that tremolo in is voice is irritating. No way could he have done that song. Steve Perry may have been one of the biggest jerks in the music business, but damn, that guy could sing, and "Open Arms" was his best vocals. Elliot doesn't have that pitch, range, or soulfulness. Not even Ace, doing his falsetto thing, could have hit those high notes.

The song isn't that high, and as much as I detested Ace he sang much higher than that when he was doing his falsetto thing.

[spikedavis]

Because I"m a girl. :D Meow!


This is a good point-there are a ton of broads out there that are threatened by Kat and want to see her fail. There is a lot to be said for intimidation.

[aindik]

'We' are not selling music at this point! 'We' are providing a stage for selecting the person that will sell the most in the future. This 'competition' isn't the end-all. It is the beginning. You have seen all Taylor and Elliot have to offer - that is my direction with the degree of difficulty. And when it comes to singing....talent is sounding good, so no they really aren't 'two separate questions'.

A person can sing scales all day with perfect pitch and a nice timbre. Will that sell? No. They have to sing the right notes in the right order, in order to sound good.

It's like the 10 minute drum solo at some rock concerts. You marvel at the skill, but is it really something you want to listen to? Or would you rather have a melody?

[Figaro]

I think what the Chunk man is trying to say is that Taylor is as good as he is ever going to be. Whereas Katharine is only going to get better and better with age and experience.

[dandrewk]

I just watched Kat do "Rainbow again.

1. Near the beginning, she pulls on her ear, I think pulling out an earplug. She didn't miss a beat. Very professional.

2. The performance - the last time I felt that way about a singer's performance was Whitney Houston's National Anthem at the beginning of Desert Storm.

[Chunky]

A person can sing scales all day with perfect pitch and a nice timbre. Will that sell? No. They have to sing the right notes in the right order, in order to sound good.

It's like the 10 minute drum solo at some rock concerts. You marvel at the skill, but is it really something you want to listen to? Or would you rather have a melody?

Thank you!!!! You support my point. Based on this - your own revelation (with my help) your vote should steer way clear of Taylor and Elliot cuz listening to more than 2 verses by these guys gets old fast! Now get back to work!

[Figaro]

This is a good point-there are a ton of broads out there that are threatened by Kat and want to see her fail. There is a lot to be said for intimidation.


It's just nature. Girls don't like the pretty popular girl and say she has an attitude. When guys don't like the pretty popular guy they say he is gay. It's just the way of the world.

[KyleLC]

1. Near the beginning, she pulls on her ear, I think pulling out an earplug. She didn't miss a beat. Very professional.That was her impersonation of Carol Burnett. :)

Seriously, I thought she did that to pull some of her hair that was caught on her earring. I meant to replay that to check, but forgot.

[aindik]

Thank you!!!! You support my point. Based on this - your own revelation (with my help) your vote should steer way clear of Taylor and Elliot cuz listening to more than 2 verses by these guys gets old fast! Now get back to work!

My point is that Katharine does lots of runs, which are difficult and admirable but don't sound good. Yes, I'd rather hear her sing a melody than hear Taylor sing a melody. But Katharine often chooses not to sing the actual melody, and that (despite it requiring talent and being difficult) will hurt her in the competition.

[aindik]

That was her impersonation of Carol Burnett. :)

Seriously, I thought she did that to pull some of her hair that was caught on her earring. I meant to replay that to check, but forgot.

She was definitely pulling out an ear piece. I think she layed it on her shoulder, too.

[NJChris]

There was just something missing in the performances tonight......


Chris Daughtry.

Thank God! :)

[dandrewk]

She was definitely pulling out an ear piece. I think she layed it on her shoulder, too.

I think she kept it in her hand. If you look at long shots, you can see her left hand (on her thigh) seems to be holding something.

[Chunky]

My point is that Katharine does lots of runs, which are difficult and admirable but don't sound good. Yes, I'd rather hear her sing a melody than hear Taylor sing a melody. But Katharine often chooses not to sing the actual melody, and that (despite it requiring talent and being difficult) will hurt her in the competition.

Actually, most of them do sound good...only problem when you take big risks (which the others never do) is that it is remembered when you are off even slightly. This is why her bumbling on one little lyric drew so much attention a week or two ago. It has been noted in the past that when you get to this point in the competition, you need to do more to stand out and just singing the melody is not enough.

Taylor is decent at what he does, but part of his act is his complete, off the wall antics on stage.....not his singing. I will NEVER go to a concert by any one of these three unless tickets are given to me and dinner is paid for and the concert is less than 10 miles away. That said, I would be willing to at least listen...only problem with this is you cannot HEAR Taylor's crappy antics. So now you have half an act - this doesn't equate to big record sales or even good listening.

[RangersRBack]

All this said, I know Taylor will win...I think there are too many sexually unsatisfied, horny, middle-aged married women out there that fantasize about him for whatever reason. I think it has to do with that youth, yet the whole gray hair thing....innocent but not???? Who knows :confused:

Good thing there are no horny middle aged men, sexually unsatisfied or not, who vote for Katharine because they fantasize about her for whatever reason. I think it has to do with the youth, the whole beautiful hair thing...innocent but not? And the McBoobies...My God man, don't forget those amazing McBoobies!!! And that incredibly gorgeous face, and.........

Whew, good thing I'm not one of THOSE guys. :D

[Chunky]

Good thing there are no horny middle aged men, sexually unsatisfied or not, who vote for Katharine because they fantasize about her for whatever reason. I think it has to do with the youth, the whole beautiful hair thing...innocent but not? And the McBoobies...My God man, don't forget those amazing McBoobies!!! And that incredibly gorgeous face, and.........

Whew, good thing I'm not one of THOSE guys. :D

Good point! I'm one too...just don't let it sway my vote - wait...I've never even voted before :eek:

[DaveBogart]

In the other thread, it was reported that Katharine's own pick would be "Damn, I Feel Like a Woman" by Shania Twain. I didn't like her third performance of the song I never heard, but I would have hated Shania more.Kat can sing the alphabet and I'll swoon, but I am also glad she didn't sing a crappy Shineola Twain song.

[newsposter]

I expected Taylor to sing that last note high, like Joe Cocker, even though to me it never sounds like it's in tune, but that's how the song goes. He didn't do it.


but if she had put her hair back or up y'all woulda had a nice shot of the Mcboobies. Sorry, fellas.

question: was he capable of singing it and choose not to or couldn't he? If he couldn't then (per the judges own past criticisms), he shouldn't be top 3, period. others got busted for their lack of range/flexibility etc. So why shouldn't he be busted now?

Nice looking out for us. You sound more like my someone I know every day :)

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I actually think taylor is pretty immature acting for his age

[Chunky]

question: was he capable of singing it and choose not to or couldn't he? If he couldn't then (per the judges own past criticisms), he shouldn't be top 3, period. others got busted for their lack of range/flexibility etc. So why shouldn't he be busted now?

Nice looking out for us. You sound more like my someone I know every day :)

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I actually think taylor is pretty immature acting for his age

I think he could hit it in his way, but again, it goes back to both him and Elliot do not take risks and are actually quite boring singers....Taylor is an ok performer in that he captures your attention with his antics....but a singer and performer are not one in the same.

Elliot.................ok singer.........................poor performer
Taylor...............decent singer..................Very good performer
Kat...................Really good singer...........Very good performer

If you subtracted the speed dialing, horny, middle-aged married women (or whatever I called em) - Kat is your IDOL hands down...Since we can't....Taylor will win and Kat will have the better career based on Sales alone.

[Figaro]

I don't want kat to win. If she loses it just speeds her journey to the pages of Playboy.

[newsposter]

just for the record, American inventor limits calls to 5 per number. a GREAT idea in my opinion. In other words, they never will do it. But at least we positively know it can be done.

[Chunky]

I don't want kat to win. If she loses it just speeds her journey to the pages of Playboy.

Then this is the perfect rationale supporting the fact that middle-aged, horny men are not voting for Kat and one of the main reasons Taylor will win is a result of the horny middle aged, sexually frustrated married women VOTE. Men are from Mars - they like, they don't vote to exploit quicker? Sold!

[DLiquid]

I don't want kat to win. If she loses it just speeds her journey to the pages of Playboy.:D

Most of the comments in this thread are spot on. Kat's scoops and runs are just annoying and don't suit her. She seems to have no connection to the song. She smiles at the wrong times. She is a bit annoyed with the judges and shows it. She has a lot of raw talent. She is incredibly hot. The list goes on.

I still want her to win. I'm not likely going to buy or listen to the music of any of these singers. I watch the TV show for the entertainment value, but my music tastes don't really overlap the show much. So I want the singer to win who I'd like to see stick around a few years. I'm interested to see what Kat can do. Right now she is doing a lot of things wrong and still she has outshined everyone else in the competition, IMO.

I like Taylor, and it would be interesting to see what he does too, but he doesn't have all of Kat's assets :o, so I guess I'm not as interested to see what he does in the media over the next few years.

[Jesda]

TRY! A LITTLE! TENDERNESS!
What a great way to end the show.

Katharine was pretentious and over the top. I liked Ellot.

[Jebberwocky!]

I think he could hit it in his way, but again, it goes back to both him and Elliot do not take risks and are actually quite boring singers....Taylor is an ok performer in that he captures your attention with his antics....but a singer and performer are not one in the same.

Elliot.................ok singer.........................poor performer
Taylor...............decent singer..................Very good performer
Kat...................Really good singer...........Very good performer

If you subtracted the speed dialing, horny, middle-aged married women (or whatever I called em) - Kat is your IDOL hands down...Since we can't....Taylor will win and Kat will have the better career based on Sales alone.

Here's how I see it using your format:


Elliot.................Really good singer...................poor performer
Taylor...............Pretty good singer..........Very good performer
Kat...................Pretty good singer..................good performer

I struggled giving Kat that high of a performer rating - can't stand the constant smiling. Not as bad as looking at Eliott.

[Chunky]

Here's how I see it using your format:


Elliot.................Really good singer...................poor performer
Taylor...............Pretty good singer..........Very good performer
Kat...................Pretty good singer..................good performer

I struggled giving Kat that high of a performer rating - can't stand the constant smiling. Not as bad as looking at Eliott.

The smiling thing? I just don't get it...personally, I think it is sexy as heck. People got on Chris cuz he was emotionless and all business like....Taylor cuz he does the constipated thing....so what's with the sexy smile? You gay? I realize opinions are like *********s...but it never fails for me to understand why the world has evolved to what it has when you got people that honestly think Elliot is a "Really good singer" and better than the other two. Then again, I take into consideration today's youth and the degeneration over time and...well....the XBOX thing and not sure of your quote even, but I'd say it is not correct???? "Nobody moves, nobody get hurt" I'd say nobody GETS hurt....what the hell do I know....watch for Jabberwocky's (whatever that is) edit soon :D

[DLiquid]

Chunky, I think you are in the minority (even among guys drooling over her) in not being annoyed by Kat's constant smiling, even when singing lyrics that are supposed to be sad or reflective.

[Chunky]

Chunky, I think you are in the minority (even among guys drooling over her) in not being annoyed by Kat's constant smiling, even when singing lyrics that are supposed to be sad or reflective.

Thats fine...I suppose if we are searching for things to annoy us, I just have way more things that I could find than a smile from a hot chick. I don't necessarily think that one singing a sad depressing song, needs to cut her wrists over it...I guess I am judging more on vocals than appearance and subtleties of facial expressions during a lyric.

[Jebberwocky!]

The smiling thing? I just don't get it...personally, I think it is sexy as heck. People got on Chris cuz he was emotionless and all business like....Taylor cuz he does the constipated thing....so what's with the sexy smile? You gay? I realize opinions are like *********s...but it never fails for me to understand why the world has evolved to what it has when you got people that honestly think Elliot is a "Really good singer" and better than the other two. Then again, I take into consideration today's youth and the degeneration over time and...well....the XBOX thing and not sure of your quote even, but I'd say it is not correct???? "Nobody moves, nobody get hurt" I'd say nobody GETS hurt....what the hell do I know....watch for Jabberwocky's (whatever that is) edit soon :D

Chunky:

So what if I'm gay - what does that have to do with Kat's inability to perform? You think her smile is sexy, maybe when you get out of your teenage years you'll be able to understand a little better.

Regarding my signature, I wouldn't give you the pleasure of changing it.

You got one thing right about opinions - you just forgot to mention that they usually stink!

[Chunky]

Chunky:

So what if I'm gay - what does that have to do with Kat's inability to perform? You think her smile is sexy, maybe when you get out of your teenage years you'll be able to understand a little better.

Regarding my signature, I wouldn't give you the pleasure of changing it.

You got one thing right about opinions - you just forgot to mention that they usually stink!

If you are gay? It clearly explains much of your posts.

Teenage years? "Jabberwocky"? XBOX? I think you got it backwards. AND don't change your sig....keep it as a reminder of your proclamation of your ignorance.

Say goodbye to your 'boy' Elliot!!!

[Havana Brown]

If you are gay? It clearly explains much of your posts.



Gay? I think not. At least not when we shared a room in Vegas!


Chunky, you need to chillax on the personal attacks or I'm gonna pull a Lorena on you.

[Jesda]

I'd totally go gay for Chunky.

[Figaro]

Gay? I think not. At least not when we shared a room in Vegas!


Chunky, you need to chillax on the personal attacks or I'm gonna pull a Lorena on you.

oh ****! It's on!

Really at this late stage why argue so much? No one is going to change any minds. Just sit back and let's see the best boob or boobs win! :D


mmmmm....booobs......

[Chunky]

I'd totally go gay for Chunky.

ROTFLMAO :D :D :D :D

I'm Chilled! Go Kat :up:

[Chapper1]

I'd totally go gay for Chunky.

Or a Chunky...

http://www.oldtimecandy.com/images/candypix-pages/chunky_small.jpg

[Jebberwocky!]

Gay? I think not. At least not when we shared a room in Vegas!


I can never remember if we're supposted to talk about sharing a room or not. ;)

[Havana Brown]

sharing a room ;)

Sharing? Now THAT sounds gay. :D

Anyone know what percentage of the time dialidol has been right?

[Figaro]

Sharing? Now THAT sounds gay. :D

Anyone know what percentage of the time dialidol has been right?

yeah they list it right on their page.

[Havana Brown]

This is a good point-there are a ton of broads out there that are threatened by Kat and want to see her fail. There is a lot to be said for intimidation.


Well this "broad" rooted for Carrie Underwood. I think she is a great singer and has the looks too. I think Kat can sing, is pretty, but I just don't like the way she acts. It's almost a "dumb blonde" act to me.

[Jesda]

Havana: I agree with you.

I think Katharine has a better natural voice than Carrie, however, Carrie is MUCH better at using her talent to create music and pleasure. And yeah, Katharine annoys me a little.

[Figaro]

Havana: I agree with you.

I think Katharine has a better natural voice than Carrie, however, Carrie is MUCH better at using her talent to create music and pleasure. And yeah, Katharine annoys me a little.


I am betting that Katharine can use her "talent" to create some "pleasure" too. Mmmmm...pleasure.....

[Chunky]

Well this "broad" rooted for Carrie Underwood. I think she is a great singer and has the looks too. I think Kat can sing, is pretty, but I just don't like the way she acts. It's almost a "dumb blonde" act to me.

Just to clue you in (many are present here) - there are some really dumb people in this world...many pop stars are far from geniuses. Carrie is not close to the same league as Kat vocally....lets not even go there!

[Langree]

Just to clue you in (many are present here) - there are some really dumb people in this world...many pop stars are far from geniuses. Carrie is not close to the same league as Kat vocally....lets not even go there!

You know Kat personally or something?

She is NOT all that, and AI is not about voting for the one with the most promise.

It does matter how she looks when she sings, no matter what you say, it comes to how she performs. It's been said before, she doesn't connect with the lyrics or mood of the songs she sings, and if you really listen to music, even without watching, you can hear that disconnect, or lack of emotion.

You've downright put people down here or off handedly insulted people because they don't see Kat the same way you do.

Grow up.

Just FYI, I would sooner buy a CD of Taylor before I would of Kat.

Taylor may be a spaz, but he has fun and you can tell, at the same time, he can turn it off and do a soulful, meaningful song.

After watching Red Hot Chili Peppers on SNL, or anything by Outkast, nothing Taylor does dancewise bothers me.

[Jesda]

Again, even the worst on Nashville Star > AI. :)

[Langree]

Again, even the worst on Nashville Star > AI. :)

I always forget to watch that, I guess I could make a WL for it.

[dolfer]

Last night's American Idol was somewhat underwhelming. No one stunk, but no one really stood out either. I expected a much better show.

Taylor Hicks: C+ I was disappointed that Taylor didn't go for any of the higher notes at the end of "Dancing in the Dark". While the tone of his voice was good throughout all of his performances, he never really challenged himself vocally. He never "went for it".

Elliott Yamin: C+ Three competent performances. Lesser known song selections will probably hurt him.

Katherine McPhee: C+ Better than last week. But please retire the floor routine!

Prediction

Considering she was able to get by last week when she was absolutely horrible, I am guessing that Katherine will get through this week and make it into the finals. That means Elliot is most likely going home tonight. However, "shocking" things can happen at this stage.

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[Chunky]

You know Kat personally or something?

She is NOT all that, and AI is not about voting for the one with the most promise.

It does matter how she looks when she sings, no matter what you say, it comes to how she performs. It's been said before, she doesn't connect with the lyrics or mood of the songs she sings, and if you really listen to music, even without watching, you can hear that disconnect, or lack of emotion.

You've downright put people down here or off handedly insulted people because they don't see Kat the same way you do.

Grow up.

Just FYI, I would sooner buy a CD of Taylor before I would of Kat.

Taylor may be a spaz, but he has fun and you can tell, at the same time, he can turn it off and do a soulful, meaningful song.

After watching Red Hot Chili Peppers on SNL, or anything by Outkast, nothing Taylor does dancewise bothers me.

Another XBOX kid!!! My generation comes out swinging, punk...not pushing buttons on a gaming console. I'll take my opinion and ram it as far as I want. One slams Kat, I build her up. Kids like you have musical tastes like Outkast and have no clue what musical talent is. Way to be brave and step out tho :up:

[Jesda]

I miss my Sega Saturn and Dreamcast. I regret selling them.

[justapixel]

Another XBOX kid!!! My generation comes out swinging, punk...not pushing buttons on a gaming console. I'll take my opinion and ram it as far as I want. One slams Kat, I build her up. Kids like you have musical tastes like Outkast and have no clue what musical talent is. Way to be brave and step out tho :up:

Flames and personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. If any more of this happens, you will be banned. If you can't defend somebody on a television show that you like without attacking another member of this forum, you are not welcome here.

But, Langree, you ought to be flattered he thinks you are just a kid. lol! :D

[DLiquid]

OMG, even the moderators here have videogame avatars. The sky is falling. :eek:

;)

[Langree]

Another XBOX kid!!! My generation comes out swinging, punk...not pushing buttons on a gaming console. I'll take my opinion and ram it as far as I want. One slams Kat, I build her up. Kids like you have musical tastes like Outkast and have no clue what musical talent is. Way to be brave and step out tho :up:

I'm no kid, and have probably been exposed to more kinds of music on many levels than you could ever hope to be.

I don't like Outkast btw.

I don't STEP anywhere, as those that know me here can attest.

[laststarfighter]

Another XBOX kid!!! My generation comes out swinging, punk...not pushing buttons on a gaming console. I'll take my opinion and ram it as far as I want. One slams Kat, I build her up. Kids like you have musical tastes like Outkast and have no clue what musical talent is. Way to be brave and step out tho :up:
Who's the punk? I'm confused. :confused:

Go go, eThung 4life yo! :cool: :rolleyes:

[Chunky]

Who's the punk? I'm confused. :confused:

Go go, eThung 4life yo! :cool: :rolleyes:

What?

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