Prison Break OAD 5-15-06, "Fight" *spoilers*

[terpfan1980]

Man, T-bag really shouldn't have used those cuffs. :eek:

[terpfan1980]

Argh! Great mis-direction by the writers to have use thinking that the Veep was gonna die from tampered bottled water. You could see from a mile away it was probably gonna be the Pres., but there was at least a seed of doubt planted by the images before the Veep's speech (and during the speech as she took the drink out of the bottled water).
Now the Veep is no longer the Veep, and Lt. Rho and her friends in the company may have problems dealing with their former puppet.

Big frown over Dr. Tancredi. That was not where I wanted to see that storyline go.

Big lol at Haywire doing the Elliott (from E.T.) thing and riding the little girl's bike to get away.

Nice cliff-hanger at the end. Great season, hopefully S2 will be just as good.

[Kamakzie]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not Sara!

[boywaja]

Wow that was great. Again proves why its my favorite show.

[scottykempf]

Sara: "We have an overdose, possible D.O.A."
T-Bag: ouch, man, ouch. I guess he will learn to put cuffs on people. Tho he is still on the loose.
Haywire: liked the shot of him riding away on the little girls bike, especially the end when he stretched out his arms. LOL
Sucre: Note to self. When trying to hotwire a car, check and make sure it has an engine next time.

Geez, give these guys a break already. Their initial escape plan got messed up how many times, they finally escape. They get the van and have to go off road, and get stuck in the mud. Then they have to go into the quarry, on foot, finally get to the plane but the plane leaves them behind!!!!

Oh, and thanks Fox, just as my recording is getting to the Next Season stuff, BONG! End of recording!!! AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Kamakzie]

Well Sara looked awfully white/gray in color. Not good.

[scottykempf]

Oh never mind, I am on 24 right now, just rewound it to catch the "preview" (very loose definition there) of next season. ALL the scenes were from this season. Are they trying to fool us by using scenes from the flashback ep?

[hanumang]

Yeah, I'm sorry to see Sara go too.

On a positive note, it is nice to get a season finale that truly delivers. This is one show that definitely doesn't pull any punches. I could see the T-Bag 'solution' coming as soon as the cuffs got put on in the van, but I'm still impressed they actually went through with it and, on top of that, actually showed so much. (it's good to reminded that some of these guys are violent criminals)

[MickeS]

These guys just get deeper and deeper into trouble... gotta love how the plan has failed at every turn! :D

The first thing I thought when T-Bag used the cuffs was "That was incredibly stupid". All it did was give them more incentive to kill him...

The VP (now Prez) sub-plot feels a bit superfluous... I know how it connectes to the main storyline of course, but it feels a little too peripheral to make any real impact.

Nice escape by Tweener... I guess he and Haywire did a lot better by being kicked out of the gang! :D

[DevdogAZ]

Oh never mind, I am on 24 right now, just rewound it to catch the "preview" (very loose definition there) of next season. ALL the scenes were from this season. Are they trying to fool us by using scenes from the flashback ep?
It's not like S2 has been filmed yet. In fact, it probably hasn't even been written.

I can't believe Michael had such an elaborate plan for getting outside the walls, only to have it be so poorly planned and based so much on chance once they got out. If the van were waiting for them right outside the wall, they could have been to the airfield before anyone even started to look for them. Which reminds me, what was the point of the episode early in the season when Michael determined what road would be best for them to get picked up on? I saw the shot of the Fitz street sign in this ep, but I thought the whole idea was for Abruzzi's guys to be waiting on that street to drive them away.

How ironic that Tweener is the only one who appears to have gotten away cleanly.

How lame that T-Bag screams in agony and the homeowner comes out with a gun, yells "Hello?" and when nobody responds he just goes back inside. Did he think he was hearing things?

Can't believe they killed off Sara. Sure, she might not be dead, but either way I was hoping for that part of the story to play out differently.

Obviously, in order for there to be a S2, some of them will have to get away, but they sure left it at a stupid place for that. The police are less than 100 yards away from them, the escapees are running across a wide open field and there are search helicopters in the area. I really don't see how they're going to realistically write them out of this.

[dr_mal]

I really don't see how they're going to realistically write them out of this.
Here, let me help you out:

I really don't see how they're going to realistically write them out of this.

:D

[DevdogAZ]

Here, let me help you out:



:D
Solid point. ;)

[MickeS]

I can't believe Michael had such an elaborate plan for getting outside the walls, only to have it be so poorly planned and based so much on chance once they got out. If the van were waiting for them right outside the wall, they could have been to the airfield before anyone even started to look for them. Which reminds me, what was the point of the episode early in the season when Michael determined what road would be best for them to get picked up on? I saw the shot of the Fitz street sign in this ep, but I thought the whole idea was for Abruzzi's guys to be waiting on that street to drive them away.

IIRC, and I might not, it was the black guy (argh... can't remember his name right now) that was going to provide the escape vehicle, waiting for them outside. Since they had to get out post haste, I think that part of the plan fell through also.

And remember, in the original plan, nobody would've noticed that they escaped until much later - that went to hell too with Bellick getting informed of the plan and the "hi-jacking" of the warden. They essentially had to wing all of it in the last minute.

[dr_mal]

IIRC, and I might not, it was the black guy (argh... can't remember his name right now) that was going to provide the escape vehicle, waiting for them outside. Since they had to get out post haste, I think that part of the plan fell through also.
That would be C-Note.

[Eight47]

Just a small question, but what was the deal with the origami swans in the beginning of the season and what happened to Lincoln’s son? He has got to be held up someplace.

And can someone actually survive after having their hand cut off at the wrist?

[jschuur]

Just a small question, but what was the deal with the origami swans in the beginning of the season and what happened to Lincoln’s son? He has got to be held up someplace.
I believe that'll be covered by the mobile videos that Fox has planned for the summer.

And can someone actually survive after having their hand cut off at the wrist?
Where do you think pirates/psychokillers with a hook arm come from?

[spikedavis]

Here, let me help you out:



:D

That's the hardest I've laughed all month. :D

[appleye1]

T-Bag running through the woods carrying his cut-off hand cracked me up. (Should I feel bad about that?)

[Jesda]

I was actually rooting for the evil vice president. Good for her!

[Donbadabon]

Big lol at Haywire doing the Elliott (from E.T.) thing and riding the little girl's bike to get away.

And, he put on a football helmet, so no one would recognize him. lol

[Rob Helmerichs]

And, he put on a football helmet, so no one would recognize him. lol
Maybe he's just into safety first.

[SeanC]

Yeah, I'm sorry to see Sara go too.

On a positive note, it is nice to get a season finale that truly delivers. This is one show that definitely doesn't pull any punches. I could see the T-Bag 'solution' coming as soon as the cuffs got put on in the van, but I'm still impressed they actually went through with it and, on top of that, actually showed so much. (it's good to reminded that some of these guys are violent criminals)

I think she's only mostly dead. :D

I thought the axe scene was awesome too. I think this is the first time I have ever seen someone actually lose a hand because of handcuffs.

[allan]

Mental note: never handcuff myself to someone! :eek: This was great, except for Sara's death. :down:

[LordKronos]

IIRC, and I might not, it was the black guy (argh... can't remember his name right now) that was going to provide the escape vehicle, waiting for them outside. Since they had to get out post haste, I think that part of the plan fell through also.

More than that, remember that at some time earlier in the season, they were sitting outside the prison (can't remember why) and the police/guards saw them and made them move along. They realized they wouldn't be able to pick the guys up right outside.

[Magister]

I said to my wife when crazy eyes went into the house in Montana - She has been stupid all season. Ugh...

[jradford]

Good finale, but Sara's OD was such a cop out. The minute that scene started, all I could think was "Are they really going to have her commit suicide? How lame." It wasn't even sad that she died. It was sad that they took a good charachter and ruined her with a another stupid suicide scene.

[tigercat74]

I thought that they would shoot the handcuffs off with the gun. But then they would be scared of someone hearing it.

[jlb]

When t-Bag got his hand chopped off, all I could think was "There goes Jack Bauer at it again"..... :)

[Zaui]

Psycho guy and "kid" got away safely? if so, good for them!

was last night the season finale?

[grecorj]

Lackluster finale, IMHO.

[jking]

I was thinking last night that if they are going to continue this "The Fugitive" thing into next season, how would they keep on Bellick and the Warden as regulars? Surely a prison guard and a warden wouldn't continue the chase across the country (they would bring in Tommy Lee Jones for that :) ).

But then I got to thinking, as slow as this season has gone (I'm thinking timewise the whole season has covered about two months of prison life), they could easily do the same thing next season and drag out to "hot pursuit" portion of the chase 10 or 12 episodes at least.

[MitchO]

Big lol at Haywire doing the Elliott (from E.T.) thing and riding the little girl's bike to get away.

I was thinking 'Frankenstein'.

[gchance]

Just a small question, but what was the deal with the origami swans in the beginning of the season and what happened to Lincoln’s son? He has got to be held up someplace.

And can someone actually survive after having their hand cut off at the wrist?

Gimme some sugar, baby. Groovy.
http://www.ughur.com/private/Cinema/Evil_Dead/groovy1_small.gif

Incredibly satisfying season finale, although I must admit that every commercial break was a Buster Crabbe-style cliffhanger.

As Haywire was looking through the garbage I said to my wife, he just can't cut a break, can he? This was the third time this happened to him! Then he rides off into the sunset on a pink Schwinn... classic.

Poor, poor Sara. But you know by them saying "possible" suicide, she'll live. Plus, Scofield needs some sugar.

Greg

[IndyJones1023]

Mental note: never handcuff myself to someone! :eek: This was great, except for Sara's death. :down:
She may not be dead.

[cwoody222]

The VP (now Prez) sub-plot feels a bit superfluous... I know how it connectes to the main storyline of course, but it feels a little too peripheral to make any real impact.


I agree. I even said to my boyfriend, "Oh yeah, she's dead. They got to wrap up that story before next season." Guess I was wrong.

Who was the mysterious man who we barely saw obtaining the poison from the guy who said "You know this is high treason, right?"

I swore it looked like President Logan from "24"! :eek:


As for the question about the origami swans... the purpose was to confirm the drains led where Michael thought they did and that there was a clear path. 'Cause they used those pipes to get around to places they otherwise couldn't access.

[FLbadgirl]

We really enjoyed the season finale but I must say it really left a lot hanging. Now, I know they do this ppurposefully but I still wanted a little more closure on this season.

- Teabag got what he deserved
- Looks like Vanilla Ice will be making a clean break to St. Louis
- Poor Nick, dead as a doornail, but now there's a message on his machine from Veronica pinpointing her exact location (look out, secret service will be there shortly)
- idiots--bye bye private jet to freedom
- Poor Sara, could never get her head screwed on straight (mentally or physically). Why, why did she end her life? (this will burden Michael for the rest of his life...when he finds out the outcome of the Dr.)
- Looks like good ole Dad might be coming to save the clan afterall
- The VP is one big bad witch! Killing the President of the US, that's a no no.

... that's just my .02.

I am wholheartedly looking forward to next season!!

[AstroDad]

I can't believe the number of people that think Sara is actually dead. Did you learn nothing from Abruzzi?!!?

[SeanC]

Hmmmm I must have missed the part of the show where an EMT pronounced Sara dead and she was removed from her apartment in a bodybag.

[JYoung]

Well, it's not like she was looking particularly lively and in the pink.

[GerryGag]

I can't believe the number of people that think Sara is actually dead. Did you learn nothing from Abruzzi?!!?
Hmmmm I must have missed the part of the show where an EMT pronounced Sara dead and she was removed from her apartment in a bodybag.
Based on all my CSI experience ( :rolleyes: ), the white foam around her mouth and the fact her face was ice blue, I'm assuming she's dead. :(

[jradford]

Why I think Sara is dead:

The cops walk in, look around, see her on the couch, bend down and see her completely pale, not sure if they check her vitals, and say, and this quote can be corrected: "Possible Suicide, DOA."

To me, that meant: "She's dead, possibly by suicide." Not: "She possibly commited suicide, or she's possibly alive."

I do agree that there is enough gray area for them to backtrack and make her alive, but the cops that were there made no movements whatsoever to act like she was alive, and the statement "Possible suicide, DOA" means "she's dead" to me.

I think people that think she's alive have been watching too much TV. :D

[IndyJones1023]

Well, it's not like she was looking particularly lively and in the pink.
Neither was Abruzzi.

[ClutchBrake]

No one thinking of the ramifications of DB Cooper revealing the location of $5M? I seem to recall at least Michael, Tweener, C-Note, fat cousin, and maybe Haywire being around for that tidbit of info.

[SeanC]

1. It's a TV show.
2. I'd call the stuff from her mouth puke. I don't see how that figures into her being dead or alive.
3. I call her pallor grey.

[goMO]

I thought they would jump on the plane just before takeoff and getaway, and then next season would be about finding the money.

guess not...

[GerryGag]

3. I call her pallor grey.
LOL! :D

[IndyJones1023]

I thought they would jump on the plane just before takeoff and getaway, and then next season would be about finding the money.

guess not...
I thought after the plane took off that I saw another one in the distance on the airstrip. I thought the mafia guy was going to call out to them and that the first plane was just a different one.

Honestly, when they started running across the field, I realized I was kind of sick of all the monkey wrenches being thrown into the plan.

[newsposter]

1. earlier in the season, 2 buddies were outside in an SUV waiting for them ...why not call them back but make them 'hide' better instead of relying on a van X miles away?

2. will they be sent back to the same prison? Can't imagine there would be any sense of 'fairplay' if they were. I'd say a transfer is in order if they are recaptured.

3. why in the world wouldn't the roadblock have searched that horsetrailer? you could have fit 20 people in there! Just waving them thru was totally unbelieveable...I do love the irony of the 2 late pickups escaping successfully

I didnt see the prez thing coming so loved the surprise.

Will abruz have his buddies killed since they didn't wait for him?

[IndyJones1023]

3. why in the world wouldn't the roadblock have searched that horsetrailer? you could have fit 20 people in there! Just waving them thru was totally unbelieveable...I do love the irony of the 2 late pickups escaping successfully
That wasn't a police roadblock. It was a construction site.

[AstroDad]

3. why in the world wouldn't the roadblock have searched that horsetrailer? you could have fit 20 people in there! Just waving them thru was totally unbelieveable...



They had already searched the line of cars before Tweener slipped in the back.

[AstroDad]

That wasn't a police roadblock. It was a construction site.

I could have sworn they showed the police going form car to car while tweener was watching from the trees. :confused:

[IndyJones1023]

I could have sworn they showed the police going form car to car while tweener was watching from the trees. :confused:
The guy with the stop sign was wearing an orange and white construction vest and had a hard hat on, though.

[cwoody222]

No one thinking of the ramifications of DB Cooper revealing the location of $5M? I seem to recall at least Michael, Tweener, C-Note, fat cousin, and maybe Haywire being around for that tidbit of info.


2. will they be sent back to the same prison? Can't imagine there would be any sense of 'fairplay' if they were. I'd say a transfer is in order if they are recaptured.




Recent articles have said that season 2's arc is solely about them "on the lamb" out in the real world.

Presumably, at least in part, about at least some of them trying to get that cash.

It's being filmed in Dallas, BTW, not a prison.

Personally I also see the main guard guy playing a major part next season as he makes it his "mission" to bring these guys in. They totally set him up for that last night.

[JohnB1000]

I was also rather disappointed with this finale.

Why would Abruzzi not kill t-bag with the axe but just cut off his hand when he planned to kill him all along.

How can they possibly get away now (and how many times have I said that already).

I watched this then CSI Miami, both are totally unbelievable but PB makes it seem so fun, CSI Miami takes itself so seriously and yet is just as unbelievable.

[Donbadabon]

A legal question.
Let's say you are in prison for a crime you didn't commit.
You escape.
They find out you were innocent of the original crime.
Won't you still be charged with escape, and still have to do time for escaping? I think so.

[goMO]

please refresh my memory... who was the guy that shot Nick and who was he working for?

and who was behind killing the potus? the 1st lady alone?

[AstroDad]

please refresh my memory... who was the guy that shot Nick and who was he working for?

and who was behind killing the potus? the 1st lady alone?

The Mob killed Nick

We are led to believe the VP was involved somehow in the plot to kill the POTUS. I think maybe the SS henchman did it.

[scottykempf]

Why I think Sara is dead:

The cops walk in, look around, see her on the couch, bend down and see her completely pale, not sure if they check her vitals, and say, and this quote can be corrected: "Possible Suicide, DOA."

To me, that meant: "She's dead, possibly by suicide." Not: "She possibly commited suicide, or she's possibly alive."

I do agree that there is enough gray area for them to backtrack and make her alive, but the cops that were there made no movements whatsoever to act like she was alive, and the statement "Possible suicide, DOA" means "she's dead" to me.

I think people that think she's alive have been watching too much TV. :D

The EXACT wording was:

"Dispatch, this is 15 David on scene, roll a bus to 1660 Van Lear Drive, Apartment 236, possible overdose, likely D.O.A. Copy?

[ClutchBrake]

The EXACT wording was:

"Dispatch, this is 15 David on scene, roll a bus to 1660 Van Lear Drive, Apartment 236, possible overdose, likely D.O.A. Copy?

Which, in Prison Break language, means she will DEFINITELY live. :)

[Magister]

Which, in Prison Break language, means she will DEFINITELY live. :)
Nope, it means there is room for contract negotiation....

[JYoung]

Neither was Abruzzi.

yeah but we saw EMTs working on him (plus he was convulsing).

We saw the cops milling around Sara's apartment and not one person was working on her, trying to do CPR, something.....

Of course, I do realize that this is Prison Break so she may not be definitely dead.
It just looks real likely, from my point of view.

[goMO]

The Mob killed Nick

We are led to believe the VP was involved somehow in the plot to kill the POTUS. I think maybe the SS henchman did it.


okay, so why did the mob kill Nick? they wanted veronica? why?


I assume the veep had the prez killed so she wouldn't lose power/control/life? so she just happened to know a guy who had this 'secret stuff' in the water?

[newsposter]

actually, why did he need a gun at all at that point if not to kill someone on route? If 3? seats were available, why not kill the rest so they dont drag you down on the way to the plane? If they were waiting to kill them at the plane, then the mob dudes could have handled that.

[hanumang]

I can't believe the number of people that think Sara is actually dead. Did you learn nothing from Abruzzi?!!?

While this is true, please read the last line of this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12070939/from/RL.1/).

(Spoiler Alert, of course; while it doesn't say anything concretely, it certainly favors one theory over others)

[hanumang]

okay, so why did the mob kill Nick? they wanted veronica? why?

Abruzzi felt (correctly) that unless he had some leverage - Veronica - on Schofield & Burrows, Micheal wouldn't give up Fibonacci's info.

[ClutchBrake]

While this is true, please read the last line of this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12070939/from/RL.1/).

(Spoiler Alert, of course; while it doesn't say anything concretely, it certainly favors one theory over others)

I wouldn't necessarily say so. That applies to next season.

[mightyb]

I thought the finale was entertaining!

But I have a dumb question...probably answered in the early episodes, but I can't remember for the life of me.

Why does Michael and Lincoln have different last names if they are brothers from the same father??
Was/is one adopted along the way and picked up a different last name?

[hanumang]

I wouldn't necessarily say so. That applies to next season.

The last line talks about next season? That's not how I read it.

[DevdogAZ]

okay, so why did the mob kill Nick? they wanted veronica? why?
As hanumang said, Nick was working for the Mafia to bring Veronica to the airstrip. Abruzzi was probably planning to threaten to kill her if Michael didn't give up the info on Fibonacci and once he got the info, he was going to leave Michael and Lincoln and everyone else standing on the tarmac.

I assume the veep had the prez killed so she wouldn't lose power/control/life? so she just happened to know a guy who had this 'secret stuff' in the water?
The lady from "The Company" told the VP they were dumping her because she clearly couldn't get things done. VP then resolved to show them that she clearly could get things done. The fact that she was just made POTUS and there is an election fast approaching means that she is now the heavy favorite to win the election where several hours before she was going to be forced out and possibly killed.

[puckettcg]

While this is true, please read the last line of this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12070939/from/RL.1/).

(Spoiler Alert, of course; while it doesn't say anything concretely, it certainly favors one theory over others)
Actually, we know that four characters died for sure - the Pres, DB, Nick, and Nick's dad - and potentially one more . Arguably perhaps Nick's dad and the Pres don't count. But they are characters.

[hanumang]

Arguably perhaps Nick's dad and the Pres don't count.

I would argue that point. :)

[cwoody222]

Why does Michael and Lincoln have different last names if they are brothers from the same father??
Was/is one adopted along the way and picked up a different last name?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the father ran out while Michael was young and Linc was a bit older.

So Linc kept the father's name and Michael changed his.

(or did the dad leave before Michael was even born?)

But they are full blood brothers IIRC.

[hanumang]

Yeah, apparently Papa Burrows left when Mama Schofield was pregnant with Michael, so Michael didn't get the Burrows name.

[jradford]

The EXACT wording was:

"Dispatch, this is 15 David on scene, roll a bus to 1660 Van Lear Drive, Apartment 236, possible overdose, likely D.O.A. Copy?
Yeah, there is definitely a gray area. Maybe they're just waiting to see how all the fans feel about it. And if she's playing hardball on her contract, they gave themselves some pretty good leverage. :D

- I still think she's definitely dead, though.

[DevdogAZ]

The last line talks about next season? That's not how I read it.
The last line does say "the final two episodes of the second season" but I think that's simply a mistake. I can't imagine that they've even mapped out the first of next season, let alone the last episodes of next season. I think that definitely applies to the last two eps that we just saw, and it obviously refers to Nick, DB Cooper, and someone else. It could be referring to Sara, or it could be that they intended to kill off someone like T-Bag and then decided not to.

In other words, I wouldn't put much stock into that article. The fact that we saw a relatively major character appear dead but there was nothing definite means the door was left open and they may not have even made the decision yet about which way to go.

[hanumang]

I do think that the Abruzzi reference is important for the opposite reason that those who think Sara will survive bring it up for. I don't think this show is going to play the same card twice.

[DevdogAZ]

I think she's only mostly dead. :D

I thought the axe scene was awesome too. I think this is the first time I have ever seen someone actually lose a hand because of handcuffs.
You must not watch 24.

[smak]

Why were there only 3 seats available on the plane? I saw at least 5 windows on one side, meaning at least 10 seats.

There were 2 mob guys, and i'm sure a pilot?

Did Abruzzi ever say the 3 seats was a plane limitation, or that he just wanted to take 3 people for his own reasons?

-smak-

[hanumang]

About 2 episodes prior to Monday's finale, Abruzzi said 'not everyone's gonna have a ticket.'

And the impression I got was that there were only 2 men with the plane, the mafioso dude and the pilot.

[spartanstew]

Enjoyable episode, but I'm surprised they didn't cut off T-bag's hand sooner. I actually thought Abruzzi would shoot him in the head first and then chop off the hand the first chance he got.

Add me to those that think Sara's still alive.


As for the question about the origami swans... the purpose was to confirm the drains led where Michael thought they did and that there was a clear path. 'Cause they used those pipes to get around to places they otherwise couldn't access.

And he used origami swans because Lincoln left one for Michael when they were younger and the figure has some specific meaning which I've forgotten.

[MickeS]

The last line does say "the final two episodes of the second season" but I think that's simply a mistake. I can't imagine that they've even mapped out the first of next season, let alone the last episodes of next season.

In the EW article a while back, Wentworth Miller said that the writers had 2 seasons mapped out, and I got the impression it was fairly detailed too.

[tomm1079]

the people who heard where the money was:

Michael, Tweener, C-Note, fat cousin, and tbag

[hanumang]

In the EW article a while back, Wentworth Miller said that the writers had 2 seasons mapped out, and I got the impression it was fairly detailed too.

Indeed, the creator & showrunner of Prison Break, Paul Scheuring, even went on record about having mapped out two seasons (back in November (http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2005/11/a_quicker_retur.html)).

Still, the idea that the MSNBC article is dropping such specific spoilers for a season 2 episode is a little too much to stomach. The use of 'second season finale' is most certainly a mistake.

[appleye1]

A legal question.
Let's say you are in prison for a crime you didn't commit.
You escape.
They find out you were innocent of the original crime.
Won't you still be charged with escape, and still have to do time for escaping? I think so.
I would think escape is a crime in and of itself. But of course what with the bad publicity of almost executing said innocent man, I'd bet the Governor would quickly issue a pardon for that crime too.

That is, of course, if you didn't have a brother that broke the Governor's daughter's heart leading her to commit suicide! That might change things. :D

[LordKronos]

I would think escape is a crime in and of itself. But of course what with the bad publicity of almost executing said innocent man, I'd bet the Governor would quickly issue a pardon for that crime too.

That is, of course, if you didn't have a brother that broke the Governor's daughter's heart leading her to commit suicide! That might change things. :D

I don't think it will be the governor issuing a pardon. I imagine the VP turned pres will get busted, the whole story will come out, and the pres who replaces her will issue Linc a complete pardon and throw one in for Michael for good measure.

[Steveknj]

Lackluster finale, IMHO.

Hmmmm...lackluster. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I thought it was one of the best season endings I have seen in a long time!! Between watching this and 24, but the end of the night, I was exhausted!!

[Idearat]

I kept thinking that T-Bag carrying his severed hand reminded me of something. This weekend I re-watched Sin City and saw Jackie Boy (Benicio Del Toro's character ) cradling his severed hand in the same manner.

I knew it looked familiar.

[fregienj]

The Mob killed Nick

I'm kind of confused about this. Wasn't it Linc and Michael's dad that killed them? So are we to believe that this big bad guy that worked for The Company is taking orders from some mob boss?

I also don't get why he'd be going after Veronica. He said that the Company was going after him for leaking stuff that he knows about them. That is exactly what Veronica is doing as well. Maybe he just wanted to help her out or something :)

[IndyJones1023]

I'm kind of confused about this. Wasn't it Linc and Michael's dad that killed them?
No, it was Abruzzi's henchman who killed them.

[DevdogAZ]

I'm kind of confused about this. Wasn't it Linc and Michael's dad that killed them? So are we to believe that this big bad guy that worked for The Company is taking orders from some mob boss?

I also don't get why he'd be going after Veronica. He said that the Company was going after him for leaking stuff that he knows about them. That is exactly what Veronica is doing as well. Maybe he just wanted to help her out or something :)
As Indy said, you are confused. Linc and Michael's dad had nothing to do with Nick and Veronica.

[fregienj]

As Indy said, you are confused. Linc and Michael's dad had nothing to do with Nick and Veronica.

Well that makes more sense then. Am I just nuts or didn't that guy look like their dad??? Too bad the DT's don't have the undelete feature yet or else I would go look again.

[Dennis Wilkinson]

Well that makes more sense then. Am I just nuts or didn't that guy look like their dad??? Too bad the DT's don't have the undelete feature yet or else I would go look again.

You're not the only one -- I had to go look after I saw that episode just to make sure they weren't the same guy.

[IndyJones1023]

Nick met the mob guy in a store first. I never thought he looked like the dad.

[MickeS]

I didn't think they looked at all similar. But you guys probably think all whites look alike! ;)

[gchance]

This isn't about the episode per se, but are you guys running into any people who thought this was just another episode?

Today alone, I had conversations with three different people who had seen every episode, saw this one, and thought there was going to be another new one this week! Did Fox somehow fail to make "season finale" clear?

I was just stunned by it.

Greg

[IndyJones1023]

I've had that happen before. Some people just don't pay attention.

I recall back in '89 or '90 I was discussing The Best of Both Worlds, Part I with a cow-orker. He was really jazzed about the ending. I said "yeah, now we have to wait 4 months to see the rest." He was stunned. Then pissed. Really, really pissed. It was funny.

[scooterboy]

What is this "Best of Both Worlds" of which you speak?

[IndyJones1023]

What is this "Best of Both Worlds" of which you speak?
Cliffhanger from Star Trek: The Next Generation between seasons 3 and 4.

[Magister]

Cliffhanger from Star Trek: The Next Generation between seasons 3 and 4.

I remember there was a lot of buzz on the BBS's(pre-web) about how it was to be resolved... Maybe Nanobots...

Best of Both Worlds even had a sound track you could buy... (yes I did)...

[scooterboy]

Cliffhanger from Star Trek: The Next Generation between seasons 3 and 4.
Ohhhh...that Best of Both Worlds.

I thought you were talking about a TV show or mini-series with that name.

[drew2k]

[Bringing the thread back on track.]

Warning! If you have high blood pressure, you should NOT watch multiple episodes of Prison Break back-to-back! I was way behind on the series, and I watched the final 7 episodes in a marathon Sunday night, read all of the Prison Break threads today, and I am completely drained! I'm guessing it's a result of the back-to-back viewings, but it was a non-stop roller-coaster that kept me guessing the entire way.

Like everyone else, I loved the misdirection with the poison and with Haywire. I thought at first Haywire was going to harm the little girl, and seeing him steal the bike (and helmet) was a true LOL moment.

It was a great finale, and I can't wait for next season. I'm hoping Sarah is not dead, but it did look like it. Her character has ties to both Michael and to her father, the governor, and the governor may have a role in the upcoming presidential election. If Sarah survives, there's a lot of potential story between these characters next season.

P.S. It's been bugging me for the last 7 PB threads I read, and now I finally have a chance to say it: It's Ensign "Ro", not "Rho". :D

[MickeS]

A non-stop roller-coaster that kept me guessing the entire way!
- drew2k, TiVo Community Forum

[Rob Helmerichs]

P.S. It's been bugging me for the last 7 PB threads I read, and now I finally have a chance to say it: It's Ensign "Ro", not "Rho". :D
Ensign Ro is a Bajoran freedom fighter turned Starfleet soldier.

Ensign Rho is, like, totally this sorority girl and stuff. Or should I say, Ensign Ρώ?

[SuperZippy]

Argh! Great mis-direction by the writers to have use thinking that the Veep was gonna die from tampered bottled water. You could see from a mile away it was probably gonna be the Pres., but there was at least a seed of doubt planted by the images before the Veep's speech (and during the speech as she took the drink out of the bottled water).
Now the Veep is no longer the Veep, and Lt. Rho and her friends in the company may have problems dealing with their former puppet.

Big frown over Dr. Tancredi. That was not where I wanted to see that storyline go.

Big lol at Haywire doing the Elliott (from E.T.) thing and riding the little girl's bike to get away.

Nice cliff-hanger at the end. Great season, hopefully S2 will be just as good.


good post...

finally got to see the last 2 episodes...

great show...

[SuperZippy]

the haywire scene with the little girl reminded me of the scene in con air with the psyco guy and the little girl...

knew it wouldn't turn out bad...

[Prepper]

Indeed, the creator & showrunner of Prison Break, Paul Scheuring, even went on record about having mapped out two seasons (back in November (http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2005/11/a_quicker_retur.html)).

Still, the idea that the MSNBC article is dropping such specific spoilers for a season 2 episode is a little too much to stomach. The use of 'second season finale' is most certainly a mistake.

I think they were referring to the second batch of episodes as the "second season finale". Remember that the series took a hiatus after the fall to give 24 a chance to come back (and it was billed as the "Fall Season Finale". So the "second season finale" is the finale we just watched, and if that is the case the 2 deaths would be Charles Westmoreland (aka DB Cooper) and Nick (not counting peripheral characters like the President and Nick's father).

I'd say that Sarah is going to live and that there will be an episode next season where Michael has to risk everything to check in on her (breaking into a mental hospital or something to see her) over the guilt he will feel when he finds out what he drove her to do.

On a side note: my wife and I also watched the last 6 episodes back-to-back (we are so behind this season) and worst of all (besides the constant suspense) was that my HD-Tivo started to go haywire (pixelating, pausing to the point of unwatchability) and only recorded the first 45 minutes of the season finale (my wife noticed the gap in the green bar when we started to watch it). So we stopped that, I downloaded a BT of the episode and burned it to a DVD while we watched an episode of Bones. We didn't get to watch it until the next night, but thank god for the internet! :)

[Zevida]

Once again really, really late to the discussion, but a very solid season finale! Not quite as intense as "Go", so it felt like a bit of an emotional letdown, because I wasn't on the edge of my seat quite as much - but I was still enthralled. Loved, loved, loved T-bag losing the hand 24-style; and then running with it in the woods was a classic laugh out loud moment. Along with Haywire putting on the football helmet.

I'm disappointed with the resolution of the Sara storyline, if she is in fact dead (which I'm sure you all know by now because of watching the second season, but I'm a little behind!), which she really looked in my unprofessional TV-viewer opinion.

Oh boy did I know Bellick was going to go on the rampage when he got out of there. I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of his shotgun.

[scooterboy]

Once again really, really late to the discussion,
Ya think?



:eek:

[tivoboyjr]

Once again really, really late to the discussion, but a very solid season finale! Not quite as intense as "Go", so it felt like a bit of an emotional letdown, because I wasn't on the edge of my seat quite as much - but I was still enthralled. Loved, loved, loved T-bag losing the hand 24-style; and then running with it in the woods was a classic laugh out loud moment. Along with Haywire putting on the football helmet.

I'm disappointed with the resolution of the Sara storyline, if she is in fact dead (which I'm sure you all know by now because of watching the second season, but I'm a little behind!), which she really looked in my unprofessional TV-viewer opinion.

Oh boy did I know Bellick was going to go on the rampage when he got out of there. I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of his shotgun.

We'll be looking forward to your comments on "Leave it to Beaver," season two.