Grey's Anatomy "17 Seconds" 5-14-06 [Text View]

Graymalkin

05-14-2006, 11:12 PM

Izzie did a bad thing. A very bad thing. And she's dragging Burke and George into it with her. Of course, Burke has his own problems right now.

Too bad about Doc. They should've just put a crewman's red shirt on him from the beginning.

Double-checked my TiVo to make sure I'm getting tomorrow's two-hour finale. Whoo hoo!

coolpenguin

05-14-2006, 11:26 PM

Wow is all I can say. GREAT episode! Can not wait for tomorrow's finale! I am really liking Callie. George needs to stand up for her more, though. I hope George doesn't get screwed by what Izzie did/does. What's up with Preston???????

cmontyburns

05-14-2006, 11:39 PM

It's a sign of a good series when it produces an episode where absolutely nothing that happens is realistic or unexpected, and you're still riveted. This was pretty bad, but... wow. More please!

barrettd

05-14-2006, 11:43 PM

I really like this show and am looking forward to tomorrow night's finale, but this episode was ridiculous as far as Izzy's stuff was concerned. That whole plot with her and Denny has dragged on far too long anyway, but to have her risk everything, including his life, with stopping his heart was too much for me. I certainly hope this means the end of her career. Handling it any other way and allowing her to stay as an intern would really turn me off from this show.

sschwart

05-15-2006, 12:06 AM

This episode has me torn. I really like Izzie's character, but after the crap she just pulled, I want her done... They can't let her get away with doing what she's doing. It was bad enough lying about it on the phone, but to stop his heart.... Unforgivable.

As for the lady of the lake (aka Hot Latina Chick) there... I still think she's a looney.

Tomorrow's episode will be interesting.

mrpantstm

05-15-2006, 01:33 AM

Double-checked my TiVo to make sure I'm getting tomorrow's two-hour finale. Whoo hoo!

Same and a good thing too since CSI: Miami and Everwood had it blocked.

Wow, this season is really amazing.

My one problem with this episode was another Meredith "Choose me" speech only this time with Izzy. Personally, Izzy's speech to Denny was painful to listen to.

I fully expected the shooter to come back and too the hospital. Definitly didn't expect Burke to get hit.

Can't wait for tommorow night.

Can't, can't wait.

vertigo235

05-15-2006, 02:11 AM

that was like a finale cliff hanger, I suspect we will not get everything, if anything resovled tomorrow night...

I'm so disapointed with Izzy, and George, he should have took charge and made her stop

Satchel

05-15-2006, 02:32 AM

So Izzy is responsible for Burke getting shot too...I'm really not liking her anymore.

vikingguy

05-15-2006, 07:22 AM

I was not really into this episode I have not liked the turn the show has made since the superbowl stunt episode. It seems the show has resorted to doing way over the top things since the superbowl episode.

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 07:43 AM

Agree that the Izzie/Denny bit was WAAAAY over the top. He deserves to die/she deserves to be booted/George deserves a spanking...from Callie ;)!

MitchO

05-15-2006, 09:23 AM

So finally the brilliant plan for the show's future is revealed to me: Izzie gets arrested and convicted for manslaughter, Addison kills Meredith and goes to jail for murder, and the two of them become cellmates. The show moves to cable and there are weekly catfights ... preferably in the shower. Callie can guest star a couple times if she wants.

Mmmm. Caged Heat.

What, that isn't where they're going with this? :eek: Then I don't understand at all. :(

scooterboy

05-15-2006, 09:58 AM

Hopefully the president can keep it short and sweet tonight.

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 10:45 AM

ABC's Web site says this ep will be rerun at 8/7 tonight replacing the Oprah thing.

dtle

05-15-2006, 10:56 AM

So why didn't Burke take the helicopter back to Seattle Grace? He was in a hurry, wasn't he?

MassD

05-15-2006, 11:02 AM

I was surprised they had Izzie go manson like they did. I guess she slept through the whole "Do no harm" lecture in med school.

Though, I'll revel in the scene where that girl's parents agree to donate their daughter's heart to Denny.... Way to go Izzy! Not only did you ruin your career, kill (maybe) a patient needlessly, and violated just about every ethical standard known to modern medicine, but you also lead to getting the best surgeon to do the transplant shot.

mrpantstm

05-15-2006, 11:03 AM

So why didn't Burke take the helicopter back to Seattle Grace? He was in a hurry, wasn't he?

I wondered about this myself, but I think he left the helicopter at Mercy West because if what Izzy had told him was true, he would call Alex to get the other doctor to retrieve the heart and than have the heart helo'd to Seattle Grace.

It was a little bit kludgy way of getting Burke in front of the hospital to get shot but it "sorta" makes sense. :)

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 11:13 AM

Though, I'll revel in the scene where that girl's parents agree to donate their daughter's heart to Denny....Not gonna happen. When George spoke with the girl's parents about her donor card, he mentioned that her heart was not compatible with Denny. He was trying to convince them to allow the harvest of her organs for others.

ScottE22

05-15-2006, 12:43 PM

I did not see the Burke thing coming... Sounds like I'm in the minority on that, though...

I do agree that Izzy will need to get some sort of consequence for her actions with Denny - that is completely over-the-top and unbelievable at least to me.

Can't wait for the double-length finale-finale tonight!! I may have to wait until tomorrow to watch 24...

Grumpy Pants

05-15-2006, 01:26 PM

Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Burke dead (or soon to be)?
Is Denny dead (or soon to be)?
Is Izzie finished?
Is Addison done at Seattle Grace?

Yes please. Edit: Except Burke

ScottE22

05-15-2006, 01:36 PM

Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...
Is Addison done at Seattle Grace?

No, please! I think she's gorgeous!

mwhip

05-15-2006, 01:37 PM

My prediction is Izzy is going to kill Denny and George and her will be keeping the secret. This because Burke will live but have no memory of what happened.

Sparty99

05-15-2006, 01:45 PM

I did not see the Burke thing coming... Sounds like I'm in the minority on that, though...
I don't think you are. And I think anyone who tells you they saw it coming is lying to you. That was one of the first truly "Oh my God" moments I've experienced on TV in a long time.

Amnesia

05-15-2006, 01:48 PM

So Izzy is responsible for Burke getting shot too...Um, no---it was the shooter (presumably from the restaurant) that's responsible. Him and only him.

mwhip

05-15-2006, 01:48 PM

I don't think you are. And I think anyone who tells you they saw it coming is lying to you. That was one of the first truly "Oh my God" moments I've experienced on TV in a long time.

My question is why was Burke out front? Did he take a car back? Why did he not take the helicopter back?

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 01:52 PM

I didn't see the Burke shooting coming at all. My wife predicted the shooter, tho.

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 01:53 PM

My question is why was Burke out front? Did he take a car back? Why did he not take the helicopter back?Smeek...
So why didn't Burke take the helicopter back to Seattle Grace? He was in a hurry, wasn't he?

Mamoth

05-15-2006, 01:58 PM

Um, no---it was the shooter (presumably from the restaurant) that's responsible. Him and only him.
I don't agree. If Izzy didn't pull what she did, he would never have been where he was at that exact second.

cmontyburns

05-15-2006, 02:10 PM

No, please! I think she's gorgeous!

Kate Walsh is signed through January 2007. Doesn't necessarily mean she'll be around a lot, but she should be around.

MassD

05-15-2006, 02:20 PM

he mentioned that her heart was not compatible with Denny

Oh... thought he said it WAS compatible... my bad

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 02:38 PM

Oh... thought he said it WAS compatible... my bad
That's OK...that's why we have TiVo! ;)

ScottE22

05-15-2006, 02:49 PM

Kate Walsh is signed through January 2007. Doesn't necessarily mean she'll be around a lot, but she should be around.

:up: :up:

:D

BriGuy20

05-15-2006, 03:54 PM

This should probably be cross-posted in the scheduling area, but I figure that since all the Grey's fans are here it shouldn't be a problem.

Apparently they are going to run Sunday's episode (this one) at 8 underneath the president's speech (i.e. when Dubya stops blathering about immigrants it will go to the episode already in progress), and the finale starting at 9 (2 hours!). This may present all sorts of scheduling problems for people that may be fans of 24/CSI Miami/Apprentice, at least those of us in Eastern and Central time zones. Not sure whether the TiVo guide will update itself to record the show or not. For more info, consult the 4-page-long presidential speech thread in the scheduling forum.

Just a heads up for the fans who may not have known.

Amnesia

05-15-2006, 03:54 PM

I don't agree. If Izzy didn't pull what she did, he would never have been where he was at that exact second.
Sure, and if the other doctor fighting for the heart had given in earlier, then Burke wouldn't have been there. Maybe it's her fault.

Or if the first potential heart donor hadn't died, Burke would have flown back on the helicopter. Maybe it's his fault.

Or if the restaurant manager wasn't such an ass, the guy wouldn't have wanted to shoot him in the first place. Maybe it's his fault.

And if the gun manufacturer hadn't sold the gun to the distributor, then the guy wouldn't have the gun. Much be the company's fault.

And if the pawn shop owner hadn't sold it to the shooter, then Burke would still be alive. Must be his fault.

And let's not forget that if Burke took a cab and the cab driver was just a little faster getting to SGH (or a little slower) then Burke wouldn't have gotten there just at the right time to be shot. Must be the cab driver's fault.

No to any of those. It's the fault of the person who pulled the trigger. That's it.

Sure, if a thousand things had happened differently, Burke wouldn't have gotten shot. But that doesn't mean that the blame lies anywhere else but in the person who did the shooting.

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 04:28 PM

BriGuy20

05-15-2006, 04:36 PM

Not all people read through long threads (like me :p )

Regarding the episode:

I hope Burke survives. Wouldn't be a dealbreaker to the show if (heaven forfend) he got killed off, but I really like him.

Not too concerned with Denny. I honestly want Izzy to hook up with George, still holding out hope for that.

BAD IZZY! No cookie for you!

I think in real life, George would have mentioned the donor and/or stopped Izzy BEFORE she cut the cord, but that wouldn't be NEARLY as dramatic.

All in all, good episode. Even though I'm not a fan of the gigantic scheduling mess ABC (and others, thanks to the president) is making tonight, I'm glad I don't have to wait a week to see what happens.

Melodramatic, but SO DARNED GOOD! Certainly in my top 5 shows this season.

mwhip

05-15-2006, 04:42 PM

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 04:58 PM

Mamoth

05-15-2006, 05:02 PM

Sure, and if the other doctor fighting for the heart had given in earlier, then Burke wouldn't have been there. Maybe it's her fault.

Or if the first potential heart donor hadn't died, Burke would have flown back on the helicopter. Maybe it's his fault.

Or if the restaurant manager wasn't such an ass, the guy wouldn't have wanted to shoot him in the first place. Maybe it's his fault.

And if the gun manufacturer hadn't sold the gun to the distributor, then the guy wouldn't have the gun. Much be the company's fault.

And if the pawn shop owner hadn't sold it to the shooter, then Burke would still be alive. Must be his fault.

And let's not forget that if Burke took a cab and the cab driver was just a little faster getting to SGH (or a little slower) then Burke wouldn't have gotten there just at the right time to be shot. Must be the cab driver's fault.

No to any of those. It's the fault of the person who pulled the trigger. That's it.

Sure, if a thousand things had happened differently, Burke wouldn't have gotten shot. But that doesn't mean that the blame lies anywhere else but in the person who did the shooting.
If Izzy didn't make the story up, he wouldn't have come back at that point at all. That's all I'm saying. But I guess you have some sort of NRA badge.. simma down.

Ladd Morse

05-15-2006, 05:12 PM

It seems the show has resorted to doing way over the top things since the superbowl episode. And I don't have anything else to compare the current show to otherwise -- I'm one of the folks who watched for the first time with the post-superbowl episode. And I'm hooked; love the show.

Having missed the entire "falling for McDreamy" stuff, I personally can't wait until it's completely eliminated from the show; the remnants are simply annoying now. I was hoping that last week's tell-off in the stairwell would be the beginning of the end, but I can see now that that isn't going to happen.

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 05:15 PM

And now this from ABC for tonight....sheesh...
CORRECTION/UPDATE

AS OF MONDAY, MAY 15, 2006

ALL TIMES ET (UNLESS NOTED)

ABC TELEVISION NETWORK LAST-MINUTE PROGRAM INFORMATION

MONDAY, MAY 15
8:00 8:20 PM (approx)
CORRECTION Tonights program is President Bushs address to the nation. It will be followed by a rebroadcast of last nights GREYS ANATOMY: 17 Seconds, to be joined in progress (8:20-9:00 p.m., ET, approx), and airing in its entirety on the West Coast.
I can't believe they're joining it in progress. :down:

BriGuy20

05-15-2006, 05:27 PM

I really need some explaining here but for all the folks who want to see Izzy and George together tell me why. I seriously think it would be disgusting because they have that brother/sister vibe happening where you know they are always better as friends and putting them together would ruin that dynamic.

I guess I'm one of those types of people that hold out hope that a guy like George can get together with a girl like Izzy (perhaps because I feel like I can relate so well to George)

I see them as subliminally wanting to be more than friends (especially with the arguing-like-married-people thing a couple of episodes ago), and it seemed like the Izzy/Denny "last words/kiss" thing was a deliberate slap at George because he was right in the room. Just about the only thing that was missing in that scene was George with a puppy-dog-eyes look on his face.

Also, I think he deserves more than Calleigh.

Rob Helmerichs

05-15-2006, 05:27 PM

And now this from ABC for tonight....sheesh...

I can't believe they're joining it in progress. :down:
It's a perfect solution--something completely disposable that they can rejoin in progress. Presumably, virtually anybody who wanted to watch it in the first place will have seen it last night, and this way, they've got something on that people who want to watch the finale won't mind having on while they wait.

You did notice that it's LAST night's episode that they're joining in progress, not tonight's, right?

mwhip

05-15-2006, 05:35 PM

I guess I'm one of those types of people that hold out hope that a guy like George can get together with a girl like Izzy (perhaps because I feel like I can relate so well to George)

I see them as subliminally wanting to be more than friends (especially with the arguing-like-married-people thing a couple of episodes ago), and it seemed like the Izzy/Denny "last words/kiss" thing was a deliberate slap at George because he was right in the room. Just about the only thing that was missing in that scene was George with a puppy-dog-eyes look on his face.

Also, I think he deserves more than Calleigh.

I have a friend like Izzy, she and I became instant friends since the day we met. It is very odd that I am not attracted to her at all but she is like a guy in the fact that we can shoot pool and drink beer and I am like a girl where I can talk to her in a way I could never talk to guy friends. We talk about people we date, work stuff and family and I envision one day when we each get married our families being around each other. She is just not someone I have ever been attracted even when were both really drunk. It just seems like if anything romantic happened between us it would ruin the friendship not strengthen it.

We all know George and Izzie deserves someone great but that they will be there for each other until that person arrives. They will always be the constant in each others life.

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 06:16 PM

It's a perfect solution--something completely disposable that they can rejoin in progress. Presumably, virtually anybody who wanted to watch it in the first place will have seen it last night, and this way, they've got something on that people who want to watch the finale won't mind having on while they wait.

You did notice that it's LAST night's episode that they're joining in progress, not tonight's, right?Yes I did...that's why I posted it in this thread.

mrpantstm

05-15-2006, 07:07 PM

vertigo235

05-15-2006, 07:09 PM

And now this from ABC for tonight....sheesh...

I can't believe they're joining it in progress. :down:

What's the big deal? They weren't going to show it at all, now they are just placing filler so that they can start the finale at it's regularly scheduled time. I think this is great, My TiVo requires no attention to make sure I will get the recording I want to watch...

What would you prefer them to do?

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 07:19 PM

What's the big deal? They weren't going to show it at all, now they are just placing filler so that they can start the finale at it's regularly scheduled time. I think this is great, My TiVo requires no attention to make sure I will get the recording I want to watch...

What would you prefer them to do?Run the entire thing.

vertigo235

05-15-2006, 07:24 PM

Run the entire thing.

Run the entire thing and push everything back some unknown mins? Sorry, I don't like that idea.

Sounds like this scenario.

Your wife goes to a birthday party, and you couldn't make it, she brings home some leftover cake for you that you were not expecting at all, but you bitch and complain because she didn't bring the WHOLE cake home.

Get over it! :D

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 07:27 PM

No...run the entire thing from 7p.m. on. Skip the politics....put that on the newschannels....that's what they're there for...news.

vertigo235

05-15-2006, 07:32 PM

No...run the entire thing from 7p.m. on. Skip the politics....put that on the newschannels....that's what they're there for...news.

Oh, well I agree with that! but if they were not broadcasting the politics they would still be showing the Oprah thing, that's my point.

Bierboy

05-15-2006, 08:13 PM

Oh, well I agree with that! but if they were not broadcasting the politics they would still be showing the Oprah thing, that's my point.Ouch...good point! Glad Oprah got bumped :D

Amnesia

05-15-2006, 09:56 PM

But I guess you have some sort of NRA badge.. simma down.It has nothing to do with the NRA.

If he had gotten run over, I would say it was the driver's fault. If he had gotten knifed in a mugging, it would have been the mugger's fault...

Izzy is no more to blame than any of the other people I mentioned (or a thousand others). She is, however, significantly less to blame than...wait for it...the person who actually shot Burke!

Rob Helmerichs

05-15-2006, 10:34 PM

It has nothing to do with the NRA.

If he had gotten run over, I would say it was the driver's fault. If he had gotten knifed in a mugging, it would have been the mugger's fault...

Izzy is no more to blame than any of the other people I mentioned (or a thousand others). She is, however, significantly less to blame than...wait for it...the person who actually shot Burke!
I agree. She's only to blame to the extent that a reasonable person would forsee that her disconnecting Denny would lead to Burke coming back to the hospital and getting shot.

Her action was reprehensible in its own right. But it had nothing to do with Burke getting shot.

jschuur

05-15-2006, 11:15 PM

Rob Helmerichs

05-15-2006, 11:27 PM

I can almost understand why Izzy did what she did. She likes Denny. Really likes Denny, and will fight for him. Drawing George into her actions on the other hand, that's where I think she crossed the line.
I can understand why she would want to do it, in the same way I want to kill people when they cut me off in traffic. But her actually going ahead and doing it is pretty much the equivalent of me going ahead and killing people who cut me off in traffic. I can see no moral or ethical justification whatsoever for what she did, regardless of how human the underlying impulse is. Fortunately, this show has not shown any great desire to adhere to reality, otherwise she would definitely be out a career and possibly headed to prison for her actions. And I like having Izzy on the show.

quezsmith

05-15-2006, 11:29 PM

Does anyone have part 2 from Monday night? The Apprentice and 24 were higher priorities so TiVo didn't record it tonight!!! rats! I am desperate!

Thanks,

Jan Smith
beercanman@adelphia.net

genearch

05-16-2006, 02:24 AM

The local news in LA is reporting that tomorrow it will be announced that Grey's Anatomy will be moving to Thursday nights.

Game over ER (unless you are already dead and i did not notice)

BriGuy20

05-16-2006, 03:58 AM

any word on the time slot?

10PM Eastern would be nice, but anything else would mean a conflict.

jschuur

05-16-2006, 04:07 AM

For a show that's supposed to be the nail in ER's coffin, nobody has started a thread on the season finale yet.
You'd think all the Denny haters would be having a field day.
Of course, I watch both...

Bierboy

05-16-2006, 06:52 AM

BeanMeScot

05-16-2006, 09:15 AM

I was completely disgusted by what Izzy did and the spectacle she made of it. It was just all wrong.

pendragn

05-16-2006, 10:16 AM

I was completely disgusted by what Izzy did and the spectacle she made of it. It was just all wrong.
I was disgusted by what she did, but I didn't have a problem with it. She was only sacrificing her own career for the man she loved. That's almost admirable. Almost. I thought she crossed the line when she started pulling her friends in. She put them in a terrible situation.

All in all, a great episode.

tk

Rob Helmerichs

05-16-2006, 11:08 AM

She was only sacrificing her own career for the man she loved. Well, she was also sacrificing the person who should have gotten the heart...or at least trying to (I haven't watched the finale yet, so I don't know who got the heart).

genearch

05-16-2006, 11:12 AM

any word on the time slot?

10PM Eastern would be nice, but anything else would mean a conflict.

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060516/D8HKU20G0.html

"Moving the medical soap "Grey's Anatomy" to 9 p.m. Thursdays sets up a battle with one of TV's most popular shows, "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" on CBS, and NBC's most-touted new series, "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.""

Amnesia

05-16-2006, 11:38 AM

Well, she was also sacrificing the person who should have gotten the heart...No, that person was still alive. Not sacrificed at all.

Rob Helmerichs

05-16-2006, 11:57 AM

No, that person was still alive. Not sacrificed at all.
Well, Denny is near death without the new heart, and the other guy is theoretically 17 seconds nearer death. From Izzy's perspective, Denny will die without this heart, so logically from Izzy's perpsective the other guy will die without it as well. She is inarguably reducing substantially the other guy's chances of survival by stealing his heart.

murgatroyd

05-16-2006, 12:44 PM

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060516/D8HKU20G0.html

"Moving the medical soap "Grey's Anatomy" to 9 p.m. Thursdays sets up a battle with one of TV's most popular shows, "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" on CBS, and NBC's most-touted new series, "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.""

Auuugh! Three-way conflicts!

So Thursday will be the new 'Tuesday' (used to have a four-way conflict on 'Buffy night').

Jan