Series 2 DT TTG transfer speed?

[macrob]

Any one know any more about this...

Eliminate the need for a phone line! The new TiVo Series2 DT DVR also comes with built-in Ethernet so connecting to your home network is a snap!

Is it going to be faster than a standard series 2? I know there is more to the speed than just the ethernet card, but since its dual tuner, mabye they upgraded the processor too.

With a better processor, mabye we can get faster TTG speed transfers?

If its not any faster, then I'll just wait untill the series 3 comes out.

[Rose4uKY]

I have two wireless adapters I use now... Using ethernet mean you have to have a wire into your computer and the Tivo meaning they need to be next to each other is that correct? I was told to use my new DT just like before with my wirless adapters.. But I still didn't fully understand the Ethernet and if it's faster that would be cool but if you have to have it right next to your coputer with wires I can't and don't want to do that..

Thanks, Rose

[classicsat]

You can use a bridge or run an ethernet cable from the DVR to your router, if you don't want to use a direct wireless adapter.

[sklegg]

Any one know any more about this...

With a better processor, mabye we can get faster TTG speed transfers?

If its not any faster, then I'll just wait untill the series 3 comes out.


I hope that the transfer speed is faster as it's my only gripe with my current Series2. The DT systems hit the retailers today so we should find out soon enough.

[gonzotek]

You can use a bridge or run an ethernet cable from the DVR to your router, if you don't want to use a direct wireless adapter.This is correct. Further, ethernet cables can run fairly long: 100m theoretical max for 10 or 100 baseT with CAT5 cables, plenty for most homes. So you can, if so inclined, run the cable into the wall, down to the basement (or up to the attic) and into another room where the computer/router is.

[Frankenstien]

CNET's Review

http://reviews.cnet.com/TiVo_Series2_DT_80_hours/4505-6474_7-31851112.html

As far as the transfer speed they said:

"On the previous Series2, many users theorized that the USB network adapters were the bottleneck, but using the integrated Ethernet jack on the DT yielded similarly glacial transfer speeds that approached the actual length of the video."

[sklegg]

Thanks, Frank.

I'm a little disappointed since I probably will not need any of the extra bonus features that the Series 3 will provide. The slo-o-o-w transfer speed for TTG is just really annoying.

[Dan203]

I wouldn't put much stock in that CNet article if I were you. According to the multi-page thread about the S2DT in the Coffee House it's got several flaws that make it less the credible.

If I were you I'd wait until we see reviews from actual users here on the forum, rather then depending on a single journalists opinion.

Dan

[Frankenstien]

If I were you I'd wait until we see reviews from actual users here on the forum, rather then depending on a single journalists opinion.
Dan
I've had pretty good luck with CNET, but Dan makes a good point. Some folks on the forum already have DT units. Wait a little while and see what they have to say.

[rainwater]

I've had pretty good luck with CNET, but Dan makes a good point. Some folks on the forum already have DT units. Wait a little while and see what they have to say.

Yes, but in this case, its not clear whether the author had the system setup correctly. Did he have another Tivo to test MRV? Did he have experience in the transfer speeds of MRV before he used the DT? Did he try testing TTG to TiVo Desktop using an older model S2 and compare it with the speeds of wired on the DT? What type of adapter was the older model S2 equipped with? None of these questions are answered. So I would not put any weight on the article.

[cowboys2002]

I wouldn't put much stock in that CNet article if I were you. According to the multi-page thread about the S2DT in the Coffee House it's got several flaws that make it less the credible.

If I were you I'd wait until we see reviews from actual users here on the forum, rather then depending on a single journalists opinion.

Dan


CNET reviews used to be credible. Don't know what happened. They used to have a TV show the was great on Sci-Fi.

Look at the cell phone and plasma reviews in the past week. Very weak.

Like others have said, I'd base my opions on users in this forum.

[micro9aaa]

Can any new owners of a DT unit confirm the TTG download speed using the ethernet port?

[applesnoranges]

I'm using the new DT with the Ethernet connection- I never set up my single tuner Series 2, so I don't know what the transfer rate would have been (that unit would be wireless)

But I can tell you I transferred last night's Grey's Anatomy, 1 hour, and it took 29 minutes to transfer in High Quality.

Is that the norm? I don't know if that is slow or fast for TTG.

[sklegg]

But I can tell you I transferred last night's Grey's Anatomy, 1 hour, and it took 29 minutes to transfer in High Quality.

While that doesn't seem very fast it's at least twice the speed (half the time) as my Series2 using a Linksys wireless network adapter. Good enough for now. I'm ordering my DT today... :D

And thanks, applesnoranges, for the review! I've been waiting... :p

[Dan203]

But I can tell you I transferred last night's Grey's Anatomy, 1 hour, and it took 29 minutes to transfer in High Quality.

The fastest I've seen a TTG transfer go is about realtime and that's using an older 240 series unit* connected to a Linksys USB200M Ethernet adapter. This is twice as fast. :up:

Dan

* The newer 540 series units are actually slower. They take 1.5-2x realtime to transfer a TTG recording.

[SMWinnie]

[Hey, correct me if I have this wrong]
TTG = TiVo To Go. Networked transfer from TiVo to PC. Requires encryption. With sufficiently fast network connection (USB2.0 + either 802.11g or wired ethernet), transfer rate will be limited by CPU.

MRV = Multi-Room Viewing. Networked transfer from TiVo to TiVo in the same house. Encryption not required, transfer rate limited by network connection.
[/Hey, correct me if I have this wrong]

I have an S2ST (540x, wired adapter to G bridge), am planning to add a S2DT (wired) and have been assuming that I would get very fast MRV transfers - realtime or better on Best - between the boxes.

I do get the appeal of TTG but have no interest personally. I get better results from my HTPC/Hauppauge 250s for any recording that will spend its life in the PC world.

[Dan203]

MRV recordings should be fairly fast with your setup. However the 540 units are slow in general simply because their USB chips depend heavily on their CPU, which causes all network traffic to be slow. However I see no reason you shouldn't gett better then realtime from this setup.

Also for the record... ALL TiVo recordings have encryption. The difference between TTG and MRV is that TTG streams have to be multiplexed into an MPEG-2 program stream, which is CPU intensive, while MRV recordings are transfered in their native TY stream format.

Dan

[Cboath]

Just got mine setup and working. Plugging it directly into the ethernet adapter, it took 20 minutes to transfer a 1 hour basic quality video (744 MB).

[mgar]

Just got mine setup and working. Plugging it directly into the ethernet adapter, it took 20 minutes to transfer a 1 hour basic quality video (744 MB).

This is about 5 Mb/s, which is in the same range of transfer speed for the old Series 2. The reported speeds for TiVoTo have been roughly in the range of about 4 to 7 Mb/s.