TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors (No discussions here please)

[animmo]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Coast
Date/Time: Sat 23rd June 20:30
Problem: Duration should be 60 mins, but Tivo has 30 mins

Tivo shows that this episode is only 30 mins long, but both the BBC and Sky websites confirm that it is 60 mins (20:30 - 21:30). This ties in with the fact that it's a repeat of last Sunday's episode which was 60 mins long.

[steveroe]

BBC2, "Paris", Tuesday 26th June. Freeview

Unable to set a season pass for this 3 part series.

[ericd121]

Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name:Doctor Who Confidential
Date/Time: Saturday 23rd June 8:00pm - 8:45pm
Problem: Not in Tivo's Guide Data

Tivo has the hour long Glastonbury episode, which starts at 7:00pm, as being 1 hour 45minutes in length.

[Edit] Never mind Doctor Who versus The Master, here's Episode 2 of Doctor Who versus Michael Eavis.

Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name:Doctor Who (Repeat)
Date/Time: Sunday 24th June 8:00pm - 8:45pm
Problem: Not in Tivo's Guide Data

You guessed it...
Tivo has the hour long Glastonbury episode, which starts at 7:00pm, as being 1 hour 45minutes in length.

[RichardJH]

FYI Digiguide has Glastonbury from 20:00 to 00:30 4.5 hours long

[OzSat]

My Digiguide as DWC at 8pm - so it may be a late change to DWC

[RichardJH]

There is a difference between Digiguide PC version and the web version

[cwaring]

Interestingly, it is now in the Programme Guide yet my Tivo was not going to recording "because it is no longer in the Programme Guide" :( Huh? :confused:

Had to set it myself or I would have got "Casualty" instead.

Of course, here on VM it wouldn't really matter as both are usually on the "Catch Up TV" VOD system anyway ;):p

[Pete77]

Of course, here on VM it wouldn't really matter as both are usually on the "Catch Up TV" VOD system anyway ;):p

How long is the "Catch Up TV" available for though? Probably only a few days?

[cwaring]

A week.

[cwaring]

PMSL :D End of discussion, I think.

[cwaring]

If you have a SP for "Home & Away" on FiveLife (VM Ch. 186) and also one for the show on five (105) then instead of getting one new episode a day, you'll get both the 6:30pm 'first-run' showing on life and then the 'repeat' on five at 6pm. Which, of course, is completely pointless :)

The programmes do share the same TMSID so it's not that.

Could do with looking into.

[Pete77]

The programmes do share the same TMSID so it's not that.

Could do with looking into.

But SP's are channel specific so I believe the 28 day rule won't apply when the program is being repeated on a different channel within that time?

[cwaring]

It's very unlikely to help anyone who doesn't already know (ie are watching their TV right now) but anyone with a recording set for after 10pm on BBC1 (eg Medium) should, if they can, add about 30 mins to their recordings as the "Concert For Diana" has massively over-run its slot.

[pmk]

Date: Monday 9 July 2007 at 21:00
Channel: FIVE
Problem: Should be My Brilliant Brain and not My Brilliant Britain

[PhilG]

Platform: Sky
Callsign: ITV3

Problem: Programme "Jeeves and Wooster" - all episodes appear to be the same causing multiple recordings to fall foul of the 28 day rule :(

However, I have noticed that the TMS IDs of the programs ARE all different and I was under the impression that's what Tivo uses to determine whether two programs are the "same" or not, so I am not 100% sure what the problem is really :confused:

[cwaring]

This is an 'anomoly' rather than an 'error' but I thought it worth pointing out :)

This Saturday , July 14th, BBC3 are showing 5 back-to-back episodes of a NEW "Neighbours Revealed" (behind the scenes on Ramsay Street).

Fine so far, but here's the thing.

Although the first showings 20:25-22:50 are listed individually, the repeats (01:20-03:30) are listed in one block and titled "Neighbours Documentaries".

Just thought I'd mention it as I only found out because of a clash with one of the earlier episodes.

[Pete77]

This is an 'anomoly' rather than an 'error' but I thought it worth pointing out :)

It strikes me this is in fact an error and not an anomaly. The first set of listings is correct and the one summarised as Neighbours Documentaries is clearly incorrect. It would be interesting to know whether the BBC or Tribune is responsible for the creation of the anomalous (aka erroneous) data.

[jrg]

Callsign: Film4
Programme Name: (The) Swimming Pool
Date/Time: Sunday 15 July, 22.55 (and Film4+1 at 23.55)
Problem: Description is for a 1969 film "The Swimming Pool", but TV listings elsewhere say it is the 2003 film "Swimming Pool".

[cwaring]

Just for information, DigiGuide has latter listing too.

[Automan]

Callsign:ITV1+1 (Sky Digital Platform)
Programme Name:GMTV
Date/Time:Evey Week Day Morning
Problem:GMTV not shown on +1 channel instead kids programs including New Captain Scarlet.

Automan.

[cwaring]

A number of programmes are not able to be repeated on the ITVn+1 channels 'for legal reasons'. As GMTV is technically not an 'ITV' show, this might be something to do with it.

Don't know for sure. Just a guess :)

(This message for diagnostics and FYI, not discussion)

[Automan]

Callsign:UKTV GOLD (Sky Digital)
Programme Name: Fantasy Island
Date/Time: 16/07/2007 12:00
Problem: Record all programs only seems to get this one episode.

A search for "Fantasy Island" list the program twice on UK Gold and the +1.

I assume this is the problem?

Automan.

[cwaring]

CSI: Miami
On: five
Date: Tuesday 17th July 2007
Time: 21:00
"Rio" Series 5, episode 1.

Smallville
On: E4
Date: Sunday 22nd July 2007
Time: 21:00
"Zod" Series 6, episode 1

Neither of these shows will be picked up with a FROSP as the OAD is wrong.

[daveh]

Navy NCIS
On FXUK and FX Plus

I'll try again for the third time,hopefully using the correct terminology this time.

All Series 4 episodes are not being picked up with a FROSP as the OAD is wrong.
Presumably when first shown in US not UK.

[slimjime17]

Hallmark has had alot of errors over the past two weeks, here is today's listing:

Hallmark: -

06:00 MCLEOD'S DAUGHTERS IV (2004)
07:00 DIAGNOSIS MURDER I (1993)
08:00 IN A CLASS OF HIS OWN (1999)
10:00 JUDGING AMY III (2001)
11:00 DIAGNOSIS MURDER I (1993)
12:00 TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL VIII (2001)
13:00 STONE UNDERCOVER - FOR THE MONEY (2002)
15:00 TO SIR WITH LOVE II (1994)
17:00 TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL VIII (2001)
18:00 JUDGING AMY III (2001)
19:00 HOUSE - SEASON 2 (2005)
20:00 LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT III (2003)
21:00 LAW & ORDER XIII (2002)
22:00 LAW & ORDER: SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT IV (2002)
23:00 LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT III (2003)
00:00 LAW & ORDER XIII (2002)
01:00 LAW & ORDER: SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT IV (2002)
02:00 HOUSE - SEASON 2 (2005)
03:00 DISTRICT, THE - SEASON 2 (2001)
04:00 MACSHAYNE: WINNER TAKES IT ALL (1993)

Tivo: -

06:00 McLeod's Daughters Every Breath You Take
07:00 Touched by an Angel The Birthday Present
08:00 In a Class of His Own In a Class of His Own
10:00 Judging Amy Who Shot Dick?
11:00 Diagnosis Murder Guardian Angel
12:00 Rachael Ray Law & Order Day
13:00 Tom Stone For the Money
15:00 Samaritan: The Mitch Snyder Story Samaritan: The Mitch Snyder Story
17:00 Rachael Ray How to Do Anything
18:00 Judging Amy Who Shot Dick?
19:00 The District Foreign Affair
20:00 House Humpty Dumpty
21:00 Law & Order Shangri-La
22:00 Law & Order: Special Victims Unit Vulnerable
23:00 Law and Order: Criminal Intent Happy Family

Please check the listings for this channel

[slimjime17]

Hallmark has had alot of errors over the past two weeks, here is today's listing:

Hallmark: -

06:00 MCLEOD'S DAUGHTERS IV (2004)
07:00 DIAGNOSIS MURDER I (1993)
08:00 IN A CLASS OF HIS OWN (1999)
10:00 JUDGING AMY III (2001)
11:00 DIAGNOSIS MURDER I (1993)
12:00 TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL VIII (2001)
13:00 STONE UNDERCOVER - FOR THE MONEY (2002)
15:00 TO SIR WITH LOVE II (1994)
17:00 TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL VIII (2001)
18:00 JUDGING AMY III (2001)
19:00 HOUSE - SEASON 2 (2005)
20:00 LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT III (2003)
21:00 LAW & ORDER XIII (2002)
22:00 LAW & ORDER: SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT IV (2002)
23:00 LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT III (2003)
00:00 LAW & ORDER XIII (2002)
01:00 LAW & ORDER: SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT IV (2002)
02:00 HOUSE - SEASON 2 (2005)
03:00 DISTRICT, THE - SEASON 2 (2001)
04:00 MACSHAYNE: WINNER TAKES IT ALL (1993)

Tivo: -

06:00 McLeod's Daughters Every Breath You Take
07:00 Touched by an Angel The Birthday Present
08:00 In a Class of His Own In a Class of His Own
10:00 Judging Amy Who Shot Dick?
11:00 Diagnosis Murder Guardian Angel
12:00 Rachael Ray Law & Order Day
13:00 Tom Stone For the Money
15:00 Samaritan: The Mitch Snyder Story Samaritan: The Mitch Snyder Story
17:00 Rachael Ray How to Do Anything
18:00 Judging Amy Who Shot Dick?
19:00 The District Foreign Affair
20:00 House Humpty Dumpty
21:00 Law & Order Shangri-La
22:00 Law & Order: Special Victims Unit Vulnerable
23:00 Law and Order: Criminal Intent Happy Family

Please check the listings for this channel

Again today.

[slimjime17]

Hallmark channel wrong again today.

For example, Tivo has 'The District' on at 7pm.

The District is not even on today.

[OzSat]

Hallmark should be fixed in tonight's update

[cwaring]

... BBC1 now running approx. 15 mins late so add hard padding accordingly.

[slimjime17]

Hallmark should be fixed in tonight's update

No it's not, today for example.

Hallmark website tv listing: -

19:00 HOUSE - SEASON 2 (2005)
20:00 LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT III (2003)


Tivo listing for today (VM, London East)

19:00 The District To Serve and Protect
20:00 House Spin

[Foxy]

Callsign:BBC4
Programme Name: Atom
Date/Time: 26/07/2007 21:00 & Repeats

Callsign:BBC4
Programme Name: Atom
Date/Time: 02/08/2007 21:00 & Repeats

Problem: This is a new 3 part series. The episodes are being shown as separate programs.

Now shown as a series! Many thanks!

[JNLister]

Another Brady Sequel (follow up to the Brady Bunch Movie) on Sky Movies is being listed as Another Bad Sequel.

I suspect this may not be an uninentional error!

[OzSat]

Another Brady Sequel (follow up to the Brady Bunch Movie) on Sky Movies is being listed as Another Bad Sequel.

I suspect this may not be an uninentional error!I can not find any reference to 'Another Bad Sequel' or 'Another Brady Sequel'

The follow up to the Brady Bunch Movie - A Very Brady Sequel - is listing correctly.

Unless there is something I'm missing - can you provide the transmission details of the error?

[JudyB]

It's clearly too late to fix the first of these, but since the same problem also happens next week:

Callsign: LivingTV2 (Sky Digital)
Programme Name: The Amazing Race
Date: 30th July 2007
Time: 21:00

Callsign: LivingTV2 (Sky Digital)
Programme Name: The Amazing Race
Date: 6th August 2007
Time: 21:00

Problem: Incorrect listing. Tivo shows "To Be Announced" instead of The Amazing Race.

Oddly the listings seem to be correct again by 13th August, when our Season Pass does think that it will record this at 21:00.

[Paul_J]

Last Night 1/7/07
Sky 1
21:00

Tivo Listing showed Standoff
Actual Bradcast Bones
Not sure what happened here but I have set a recording for next week on Sky 3 as this seems to be where they repeat standoff. Just wanted make sure this is picked up for next week when I will not be arround to fix this.

[CouchPotato]

BBC2SCD
Heroes
2/8/07, 6/8/07, 8/8/07 and more

This is a new series for BBC2, and yet the Original Air Date is showing Feb/Mar 07. I presume these were the original air dates in the USA. Only noticed when it didn't start recording tonight's episode, lucky I was in the hose to catch it...

cp

[b166er]

BBC2SCD
Heroes
2/8/07, 6/8/07, 8/8/07 and more

This is a new series for BBC2, and yet the Original Air Date is showing Feb/Mar 07. I presume these were the original air dates in the USA. Only noticed when it didn't start recording tonight's episode, lucky I was in the hose to catch it...

cpThat 2/8/07 is 2nd of August (original BBC2 UK airdate I would guess). The original US air dates for the early episodes of Heroes was September/October 2006. I don't think UK TiVo's ever use U.S. style dates mm/dd/yy.

[steveroe]

BBC2SCD
Heroes
2/8/07, 6/8/07, 8/8/07 and more

This is a new series for BBC2, and yet the Original Air Date is showing Feb/Mar 07. I presume these were the original air dates in the USA. Only noticed when it didn't start recording tonight's episode, lucky I was in the hose to catch it...


The policy that is usually applied is to use the OAD when it was first shown in the UK market, in this case it should be the dates when it was shown on the Sci-Fi channel.

[mrtickle]

BBC2SCD
Heroes
2/8/07, 6/8/07, 8/8/07 and more

This is a new series for BBC2, and yet the Original Air Date is showing Feb/Mar 07.


"Yet?" If you read the FAQ you'll see why you should not have set a "First Run Only" SP (the only feature to use this data) for this series, but briefly:
(a) BBC2 is not showing an a selection of repeats and selection of new episodes mixed in together. If they were then that would be the ONLY time you need to use, and should even consider using, the "First Run Only" feature. One real example is Sky One's showings of the Simpsons.
(b) The OAD is set once for the UK data, which is for the first UK channel that broadcasts the series, in this case the Sci-Fi channel. It isn't changed for every new broadcaster. (For season 2 it'll be the BBC2 broadcast dates)
(c) the dates in question are indeed February and March 2007 which is correct for the UK, but see (a) for why you never need to use them.
(d) all dates in the TiVo UI are dd/mm which is half-way towards my baseline standard of dd/mmm (using 3-letter month names removes 100% of the doubt). If you use my TiVoweb modules (or other people's) you can have "Mon 26th Feb 2007" style dates which is even nicer :D



I presume these were the original air dates in the USA. Only noticed when it didn't start recording tonight's episode, lucky I was in the hose to catch it...


Well, make sure you turn off "First Run Only" on all of your Season Passes except the Simpsons (but only if you record it from Sky One), so that this doesn't catch you out again! And next time why not check the ToDo list once in a while, that's what it's for ;-)

</delurk>

[JudyB]

Originally Posted by CouchPotato
BBC2SCD
Heroes
2/8/07, 6/8/07, 8/8/07 and more
...
This is a new series for BBC2, and yet the Original Air Date is showing Feb/Mar 07. "(c) the dates in question are indeed February and March 2007 which is correct for the UK, but see (a) for why you never need to use them.


Are you sure that these dates are mm/dd/yy ?
If you are saying that "2/8/07" is 8th February, then the OAD is wrong. Heroes only started in the UK on 19th February...

[mrtickle]

Are you sure that these dates are mm/dd/yy ?


Yes. Not least because TiVoweb displays them wordily as in my post above and all doubt is removed.


If you are saying that "2/8/07" is 8th February, then the OAD is wrong.


See all of the posts above, and the FAQ, for why it just does not matter one jot that the OAD may or may not be wrong.


Heroes only started in the UK on 19th February...

I was not the person who complained. The current guide data starts with "One Giant Leap", episode 103 which has an OAD of Mon 26th Feb 2007. (It's BBC2's Sunday night repeat). If you want to write it another way be my guest - it is really stored as 13570 - and it's probably the correct UK Sci-Fi broadcast date, but see above for why it doesn't matter!

[ericd121]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Still Game
Date/Time: Thursday 9th Aug 10:00pm
Problem: Wrongly flagged as duplicate.

This episode has been given the same data as the 2nd Aug episode, and therefore will not be recorded by the Season Pass due to the 28 day rule.

[CouchPotato]

...
(b) The OAD is set once for the UK data, which is for the first UK channel that broadcasts the series, in this case the Sci-Fi channel. It isn't changed for every new broadcaster. (For season 2 it'll be the BBC2 broadcast dates)
...
</delurk>

D'oh. Spent too long in the States, just assumed the date format was US style. Thanks for the clarification (and the tutorial :))

cp

[DuncanCorps]

Callsign: POPTV (SG3 Sky Digital channel 619)
Programme Name: Transformers / Transformers Energon
Date/Time: All :-)
Problem:

This is actually the original cartoon "Transformers" (no subtitle suffix!) from the 1980s, not Transformers: Energon from 2004. Different programme.

Also, the schedule is wrong every day. Judging by the channel banners, I think Sky is getting more accurate schedule information. For 5 August 2007, Sky's web site's TV guide has Transformers at;

* 03:20-03:45
* 03:45-04:10
* 18:00-18:30
* 19:00-19:30
* 19:30-20:00
* 22:00-22:25

... while TiVo instead has Transformers: Energon at;

* 14:00-14:30
* 14:30-15:00
* 18:00-18:30
* 19:00-19:30
* 22:00-22:25

Sky also get proper episode names and synopsis. Synopsii. Synopses. Whatever...

This is a small, low budget channel so it doesn't surprise me, but it would be nice to have it corrected.

Yes, I'm a sucker for nostalgia from my youth... :-)

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: SKYONE / SKYTWO
Programme Name: The 4400
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

The description is slightly different which seems to have split an episode into different versions, EP6652145041 and EP6652145042 when they should both have the same TmsID.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 SKYONE Tue 14th Aug 21:00 EP6652145041 True Sun 29th Jul 2007 Yes "Till We Have Built Our Jerusalem"
2 SKYTWO Wed 15th Aug 22:00 EP6652145042 True Sun 29th Jul 2007 Yes "Till We Have Built Our Jerusalem"
3 SKYTWO Sat 18th Aug 22:00 EP6652145042 True Sun 29th Jul 2007 Yes "Till We Have Built Our Jerusalem"


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Channel Callsign: NATGEO / NATG1
Programme Name: MegaStructures
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

Same problem as above. "Built from Brick" has been split into EP6830725071 and EP6830725070, and a Season Pass will record both instead of one.



No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 NATGEO Sun 19th Aug 21:00 EP6830725071 True Sun 19th Aug 2007 Yes "Built from Brick"
2 NATG1 Sun 19th Aug 22:00 EP6830725071 True Sun 19th Aug 2007 Yes "Built from Brick"
3 NATGEO Thu 23rd Aug 21:00 EP6830725071 True Sun 19th Aug 2007 Yes "Built from Brick"
4 NATG1 Thu 23rd Aug 22:00 EP6830725071 True Sun 19th Aug 2007 Yes "Built from Brick"
5 NATGEO Mon 27th Aug 01:00 EP6830725070 True Mon 27th Aug 2007 Yes "Built from Brick"



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Channel Callsign: MORE4 / MORE4P1
Programme Name: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

A slightly different problem - the TmsID is just wrong in rows 7 and 8 below. It should be EP5302085475 in those timeslots. A Season Pass will record the false duplicate.

(I have used Episode titles to clarify which episode is which, as it's confusing with this programme. We in the UK see the previous day's USA episode, at times before and after midnight)


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 MORE4 Tue 14th Aug 20:30 EP5302085474 True Tue 14th Aug 2007 Yes "Mon 13th USA"
2 MORE4P1 Tue 14th Aug 21:30 EP5302085474 True Tue 14th Aug 2007 Yes "Mon 13th USA"
3 MORE4 Wed 15th Aug 00:55 EP5302085474 True Tue 14th Aug 2007 Yes "Mon 13th USA"
4 MORE4P1 Wed 15th Aug 01:55 EP5302085474 True Tue 14th Aug 2007 Yes "Mon 13th USA"
5 MORE4 Wed 15th Aug 20:30 EP5302085475 True Wed 15th Aug 2007 Yes "Tue 14th USA"
6 MORE4P1 Wed 15th Aug 21:30 EP5302085475 True Wed 15th Aug 2007 Yes "Tue 14th USA"
7 MORE4 Thu 16th Aug 00:30 EP5302085217 True Wed 15th Aug 2007 Yes "Tue 14th USA (dup)"
8 MORE4P1 Thu 16th Aug 01:30 EP5302085217 True Wed 15th Aug 2007 Yes "Tue 14th USA (dup)"
9 MORE4 Thu 16th Aug 20:30 EP5302085476 True Thu 16th Aug 2007 Yes "Wed 15th USA"
10 MORE4P1 Thu 16th Aug 21:30 EP5302085476 True Thu 16th Aug 2007 Yes "Wed 15th USA"
11 MORE4 Fri 17th Aug 01:00 EP5302085476 True Thu 16th Aug 2007 Yes "Wed 15th USA"
12 MORE4P1 Fri 17th Aug 02:00 EP5302085476 True Thu 16th Aug 2007 Yes "Wed 15th USA"

[jrg]

Callsign: BBC4
Programme Name: "Secret Life of the Motorway"
Date/Time: (various) first showings - Tue 21st Aug 21:00, Wed 22nd Aug 21:00, Thu 23rd Aug 21:00
Problem: three episodes each seem to have their own series code.

[jrg]

Callsign: BBC4
Programme Name: "The Enemies of Reason"
Date/Time: Mon 13th Aug 20:00, Mon 20th Aug 20:00
Problem: second part/episode is listed as a seperate series, called "The Enemies of Reason: The Irrational Health Service"

[Andy Leitch]

Too late to fix...for info only.

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Match Of The Day 2
Date/Time: Sunday 12/08 22:45
Problem: Wrong programme listed

Not limited to a TiVo problem as Digiguide has same error.

Programme is listed as Match Of The Day ie. the Saturday night edition but it is the Sunday edition with Adrian Chiles, so a MOTD2 SP will not record it.

From Digiguide....

SPORT: Match of The Day
On: BBC 2 Scotland (Digital) (102)
Date: Sunday 12th August 2007 (starting this evening)
Time: 22:45 to 23:45 (1 hour long)

Gary Lineker presents highlights from the opening day of the Premier League season, with expert analysis from Alan Hansen and Alan Shearer. Big-spending Liverpool will be hoping new signings Fernando Torres, Andriy Voronin and Yossi Benayoun have an immediate impact at Aston Villa. Sunderland's Roy Keane begins life as a Premier League manager with the visit of Tottenham, while another high-profile manager, Sven-Goran Eriksson, takes his Manchester City side to West Ham.

From BBC website listings...

Match of the Day 2

Sun 12 Aug, 10:45 pm - 11:45 pm 60mins

Adrian Chiles is joined by Alan Shearer and Lee Dixon for highlights of todays three games in the Barclays Premier League - Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal all get their league campaigns underway. United begin their title defence at home to Reading, while Chelsea host newly-promoted Birmingham. And there's a London derby at the Emirates Stadium, where Arsenal start life without Thierry Henry against Fulham. [S]

[AENG]

I love my TiVos. Like the rest of you, I'm sure, my viewing (and listening) habits were transfomed and I was free to get on with other things instead of slavishly having to follow the whims of the schedulers. But, my, can't the combined efforts of TiVo/broadcaster/Tribune be frustrating? :mad:

There are 3 episodes of Motorway (RT). EPG lists them as individual programmes, not episodes, in the wrong order (2,3,1), with "also availables" as follows:
1/3 at 0110 22/8, 0310 22/8 & 2240 24/8
2/3 at 2300 22/8, 0250 23/8 & 2340 24/8
3/3 at 0000 24/8, 0300 24/8 & 0040 25/8

Making sense of that lot and having to avoid clashes and duplication by manual selection of what to record taxes my aged brain more than somewhat - I had to plot it out on paper first to stand a chance. RT doesn't help any by letting days go past midnight.
I suppose I could have waited to see if a season pass became an option but by then I might have forgotten what I wanted to watch in the first place :(

Cheers
Alan

[mrtickle]

I've only just seen this to check, but it looks as if the Tribune pixies have fixed the problem in the meantime? What I have now on my TiVo is 3 different episodes, in a series (season passable), with different descriptions for each ep albeit without episode titles:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC4 Tue 21st Aug 21:00 EP7783085000 True Tue 21st Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (1/3)
2 BBC4 Wed 22nd Aug 01:10 EP7783085000 True Tue 21st Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (1/3)
3 BBC4 Wed 22nd Aug 03:10 EP7783085000 True Tue 21st Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (1/3)

4 BBC4 Wed 22nd Aug 21:00 EP7783085001 True Wed 22nd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (2/3)
5 BBC4 Wed 22nd Aug 23:00 EP7783085001 True Wed 22nd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (2/3)
6 BBC4 Thu 23rd Aug 02:50 EP7783085001 True Wed 22nd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (2/3)

7 BBC4 Thu 23rd Aug 21:00 EP7783085002 True Thu 23rd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (3/3)
8 BBC4 Fri 24th Aug 00:00 EP7783085002 True Thu 23rd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (3/3)
9 BBC4 Fri 24th Aug 03:00 EP7783085002 True Thu 23rd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (3/3)

10 BBC4 Fri 24th Aug 22:40 EP7783085000 True Tue 21st Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (1/3)
11 BBC4 Fri 24th Aug 23:40 EP7783085001 True Wed 22nd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (2/3)
12 BBC4 Sat 25th Aug 00:40 EP7783085002 True Thu 23rd Aug 2007 Yes (no title) (3/3)


Does that match the radio times? Notice those (1/3), (2/3) flags - TiVoweb shows these parts of the data but the main TiVo UI doesn't. Seeing them is a good sign - it usually means that someone in Tribune knows that it's a "limited series" (ie only one "season") with a fixed number of episodes.

[AENG]

Thanks Mrtickle. Looks as if that ought to be OK now. I'll start again and report back.

Confirmed - SP now available and selects same showings as I had worked out (laboriously) by hand. RT episode tags agree.

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: BBCR4FM
Programme Name: Armando Iannucci's Charm Offensive
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Friday 24th August 18:30
Problem type: Orphaned Season Pass; episode missing

The Saturday 25th repeat of the Fri 24th episode is in the data but the main programme is missing from the SH875607 series, "Armando Iannucci's Charm Offensive".


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBCR4FM Sat 25th Aug 12:30 SH8756070000 False Wed 11th May 2005 No (n/a)
2 BBCR7 Sun 26th Aug 22:00 EP8756075001 True Fri 15th Dec 2006 No (no title) (1/6)
3 BBCR7 Mon 27th Aug 03:00 EP8756075001 True Fri 15th Dec 2006 No (no title) (1/6)
4 BBCR4FM Fri 31st Aug 18:30 SH8756070000 False Wed 11th May 2005 No (n/a)


The episode details are missing from the Radio 4 listings which is a bit of a shame; as they are present in the BBC7 listings. It's a new series on Radio 4 and other sources have better data.

The timeslot in question contains a strange series called "Armando Iannucci" (has some script at Tribune barfed encountering an apostraphe in a series title? The generic description for the below must be from a previous BBC7 repeat of his 1994 Radio 1 series):


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBCR4FM Fri 24th Aug 18:30 SH7754480000 False Fri 24th Aug 2007 Yes (n/a)

[Diamond Mike]

CSI: Miami
On: five (and 5US)
Date: Tuesday 17th July 2007
Time: 21:00
"Rio" Series 5, episode 1.


Neither of these shows will be picked up with a FROSP as the OAD is wrong.

I have missed all of the new series so far as OADs are the US ones. I had my season passes down as first run only in order to avoid the zillions of repeats from previous series.

[BobBlueUK]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Crisis on Jimmy's Farm
Date/Time: Sat 1st Sep 17:55 - 18:55
Problem: Season Pass for series not available

This is a new 4-part series but currently not able to book a season pass using the TiVo EPG.

[richard_hamblen]

Callsign: living & living + 1
Programme Name: CSI: crime scene investigation
Date/Time: fridays (and other repeate days in week)
Problem:
series 7 is a first showing in UK (as far as I am aware!)
episode 2 is this friday 31/8/07 - despite us first showing dates of 2006

[cwaring]

series 7 is a first showing in UK (as far as I am aware!)
No. All CSI shows premier on five. That said, I don't think I used a FROSP when it was on five due to the OADs anyway :)

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: DISCOV / DISC1
Programme Name: Mythbusters
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: wrong episode data

There is a spate of mistakes in the Discovery data for Mythbusters. And there is a pattern, too - several old episodes (which are being repeated and already have Episode records at Tribune) have somehow been allocated new TmsIDs and marked as 1st Runs :(


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
62 DISCOV Tue 11th Sep 18:00 EP5576785114 True Tue 11th Sep 2007 Yes "More Myths Reopened"
63 DISC1 Tue 11th Sep 19:00 EP5576785114 True Tue 11th Sep 2007 Yes "More Myths Reopened"


No episode is called "More Myths Reopened" in any guide I can find. Here there is only a generic description. It is flagged as a 1stRun, but note that there are no more new "look back" episodes that Discovery hasn't shown yet.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
78 DISCOV Thu 13th Sep 18:00 EP5576785083 True Sun 3rd Dec 2006 No (no title)
79 DISC1 Thu 13th Sep 19:00 EP5576785083 True Sun 3rd Dec 2006 No (no title)


Title should be "Diet Coke and Mentos", if the synopsis is correct, and that was the episode that was shown the last time that EP5576785083 was in the guide data.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
103 DISCOV Tue 18th Sep 11:00 EP5576785116 True Tue 18th Sep 2007 Yes "Mythbusters Reopened"
104 DISC1 Tue 18th Sep 12:00 EP5576785116 True Tue 18th Sep 2007 Yes "Mythbusters Reopened"


Again, no title found which matches "Mythbusters Reopened". Extremely unlikely to be a new 1st Run in that timeslot. Could it be "Myths Reopened" [split arrow, Confederate Rocket, bullets underwater] from Season 4?


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
106 DISCOV Tue 18th Sep 18:00 EP5576785117 True Tue 18th Sep 2007 Yes "Concrete Glider"
107 DISC1 Tue 18th Sep 19:00 EP5576785117 True Tue 18th Sep 2007 Yes "Concrete Glider"


Definitely not a 1st Run! "Concrete Glider" is an old episode, and EP5576785117 is a duplicate of the existing episode EP5576785085.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
122 DISCOV Thu 20th Sep 18:00 EP5576785118 True Thu 20th Sep 2007 Yes "More Myths Revisited"
123 DISC1 Thu 20th Sep 19:00 EP5576785118 True Thu 20th Sep 2007 Yes "More Myths Revisited"


Definitely not a 1st Run! "More Myths Revisted" is an old episode, and EP5576785118 is a duplicate of the existing episode EP5576785089.

HTH, and thanks to the Tracker module for providing me with an archive of existing TmsIDs ;)

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: BBCR4FM
Programme Name: Money Box Live
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBCR4FM Mon 3rd Sep 15:00 EP5129675005 True Mon 16th Jan 2006 No (no title)
2 BBCR4FM Mon 10th Sep 15:00 EP5129675005 True Mon 16th Jan 2006 No (no title)


Each week's episode is EP5129675005 but they should be different (and ideally the OADs should match becaues it is a new live phone-in every week, they are not re-runs of the Mon 16th Jan 2006 phone-in!). A Season Pass won't work because it will not record more than 1 episode a month.

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name: Doctor Who Confidential
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This SP is split again.

The original SP (861567 is the lower number, it was created first) contains:


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC3 Fri 14th Sep 19:45 EP8615675039 True Sat 9th Jun 2007 No "Do You Remember the First Time?"


The clone SP contains:


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC3 Mon 3rd Sep 19:45 EP8781995025 True Sun 8th Apr 2007 No "Stage Fright"
2 BBC3 Tue 4th Sep 19:45 EP8781995026 True Sun 15th Apr 2007 No "Are We There Yet?"
3 BBC3 Wed 5th Sep 19:45 EP8781995027 True Sun 22nd Apr 2007 No "A New York Story"
4 BBC3 Thu 6th Sep 19:45 EP8781995028 True Sun 29th Apr 2007 No "Making Manhattan"
5 BBC3 Mon 10th Sep 19:45 EP8781995029 True Sun 6th May 2007 No "Monsters Inc"
6 BBC3 Tue 11th Sep 19:45 EP8781995030 True Sun 20th May 2007 No "Space Craft"
7 BBC3 Wed 12th Sep 19:45 EP8781995031 True Sun 27th May 2007 No "Alter Ego"
8 BBC3 Thu 13th Sep 19:45 EP8781995032 True Sun 3rd Jun 2007 No "Bad Blood"

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: DISCOV / DISC1
Programme Name: Mythbusters
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: wrong episode data

Update: more to add to the previous report.



No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
120 DISCOV Fri 21st Sep 11:00 EP5576785109 True Fri 21st Sep 2007 Yes "Steam Cannon"
121 DISC1 Fri 21st Sep 12:00 EP5576785109 True Fri 21st Sep 2007 Yes "Steam Cannon"


Definitely not a 1st Run! "Steam Cannon" is an old episode kka "Breakfast Cereal and Steam Cannon" aka "Archimedes Steam Cannon", and EP5576785109 is a duplicate of the existing episode EP5576785068.

[OzSat]

Channel Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name: Doctor Who Confidential
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This SP is split again.This actually appears to be correct. Tribune use different SPs for the 15min and 45min versions - as the two are really different.

For some reason BBC3 is listing them all as the 15minute version except the last one which is they list as a 45 minute version.

[Pete77]

No listings currently available for any programs on the new Zone Romantica Ch146 on Sky. This despite pre-existing EPG data supply arrangements between Zone and Tribune on all other Zone channels and a clear statement from the Press Manager of Zone that they wish to provide their EPG listings for any organisation that requests them.

I would be grateful if Tribune could sort this out with its existing Zone EPG data supply contacts before I need to chase the matter any further at a higher level.

[SRB]

TiVo EPG listings for these channels are both incorrect, sky EPG listings are correct.

[OzSat]

TiVo EPG listings for these channels are both incorrect, sky EPG listings are correct.Schedules were released late and should be updated by Thursday.

[mrtickle]

This actually appears to be correct. Tribune use different SPs for the 15min and 45min versions - as the two are really different.

For some reason BBC3 is listing them all as the 15minute version except the last one which is they list as a 45 minute version.

Ah yes, sorry. I could've sworn I checked the lengths of those before I posted! Other than the fact that both series have the same title I suppose it's a sensible way of handling this series.

[Andy Leitch]

Channel Callsign: BBC2 SCD
Programme Name: Working Lunch
Date/Time of Airing: Weekdays usually 1230
Problem: Broken SP

My SP for Working Lunch did not record today's episode as 'the programme is no longer in the guide data'

Had to set new SP for this programme.

[richw]

Looks like it got changed since yesterday. Working Lunch was still scheduled to record on my machine at 7am this morning, but disappeared in the update at 10:23.

[cwaring]

Interesting. My last call was today at 00:43 and not only did today's record okay but the rest of this week and next week's shows (Tues-Thurs only) are also set to record fine. Will see what happens tomorrow though; ie after next Daily Call :)

[ColinYounger]

Should the "Come Dine with Me" series shown daily (30 mins, Ch4) have a different ID from the Sunday version (~70 mins, Ch4)?

Currently my TiVo is recording the lot. I only want the Sunday one.

[Gavin]

Significant changes in the guide are causing no end of problems for me,

A lot of regularly scheduled programs are reported as no longer in the guide.

For me the following are borked, I'm loathed to reset all the season passes at the moment knowing Tribune will usually fix them and leave me with a bunch or orphaned passes. It looks like generic data is being put in and then shifted around causing the problems, Not every episode in every series is affected, but enough that it's annoying and missing shows.

Sorry it's kinda hard to read its an export from Tivoweb, Working Lunch was also on the list but I put in another season pass before I realised it was more widespread.



Date Time Chan Program Episode Reason
Wed 12th Sep 23:05 E4 What About Brian What About Temptations (19th Feb 2007) Dave's new boss turns out to be his former intern, and Brian's downstairs neighbours try to convince him to use his apartment for a party. no longer in program guide

Thu 13th Sep 20:00 BBC1EAST What Not to Wear No Episode Title (13th Sep 2007) Lisa and Mica try to persuade some competitive sportswomen out of their tracksuits and into something more feminine. no longer in program guide

Fri 14th Sep 19:45 BBC3 Doctor Who Confidential Do You Remember the First Time? ( 9th Jun 2007) David Tennant directs his very own edition, given complete control to film his personal account of the making of `Doctor Who' and to take a nostalgic voyage of discovery to find out the secret behind the programme's success. no longer in program guide

Sat 15th Sep 21:00 FIVEUS Dirt No Episode Title ( 2nd Jan 2007) The ruthless tabloid editor of a gossip magazine is a master at using threats and blackmail get her story. no longer in program guide

Sat 15th Sep 22:00 FIVEUS Dirt No Episode Title ( 2nd Jan 2007) The ruthless tabloid editor of a gossip magazine is a master at using threats and blackmail get her story. no longer in program guide

Mon 17th Sep 11:00 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Tue 18th Sep 10:00 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Tue 18th Sep 10:55 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Wed 19th Sep 01:25 BBC1EAST What Not to Wear No Episode Title (10th Jul 2002) Lisa Butcher and Mica Paris confront the nation's badly dressed. no longer in program guide

Wed 19th Sep 10:00 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Wed 19th Sep 10:55 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Thu 20th Sep 10:00 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Thu 20th Sep 10:55 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Thu 20th Sep 20:00 BBC1EAST What Not to Wear No Episode Title (20th Sep 2007) Lisa Butcher and Mica Paris meet 50 single men who all have one thing in common - they're desperate to be in a long-term relationship. no longer in program guide

Fri 21st Sep 10:00 C4 Ugly Betty No Episode Title ( 2nd Feb 2007) Following Betty Suarez, a seemingly plain, but smart secretary at fashion magazine Mode. no longer in program guide

Please note there is no urgent need to fix the wifes What not to Wear season pass... :)

[cwaring]

Well those eps of Ugly Betty aren't in DigiGuide either as you've listed them. Neither is the DWC programme. So, to be pefectly honest, I don't see the problem.

They may have been previously scheduled for those slots, but they're not on now. Unless you want your Tivo to record non-existant programmes; or did I completely mis-understand something?

Sorry for the 'discussion' but my point is that I don't see any errors in the above post.

[Gavin]

Well those eps of Ugly Betty aren't in DigiGuide either as you've listed them. Neither is the DWC programme. So, to be pefectly honest, I don't see the problem.

They may have been previously scheduled for those slots, but they're not on now. Unless you want your Tivo to record non-existant programmes; or did I completely mis-understand something?

Sorry for the 'discussion' but my point is that I don't see any errors in the above post.

The point is they were ON and shown, they just were not picked up by my season pass on my Tivo.

As has been noted Working Lunch was in the same state, I got round it with a 2nd season pass. Ugly Betty and DWC may be different in digiguide, I don't use digiguide. I know that they get populated as generics then changed, my point is it's happening too late.

What About Brian was on at that time, with tivo listing the same , and that same description, but for whatever reasons it was missed as something was changed and not picked up by my season pass.

In the case of What about Brian Tivo says the cencelled one has

What About Brian
Episode Title What About Temptations
Episode Description Dave's new boss turns out to be his former intern, and Brian's downstairs neighbours try to convince him to use his apartment for a party.
Cancel Date Wed 12th Sep 02:34
Cancel Reason Program Guide Changed
Error String Program guide changed
MFS Data tmsid=EP7568295019, ShowingObject,

SeriesObject says

Series 2502109/12 {
ServerVersion = 3
TmsId = SH756829
Title = {What About Brian}
Genre = 25 35 1002 1005
Episodic = 1
ServerId = 10787533
Version = 12
ThumbData = 268566912
IndexPath = /Server/10787533


The one that was shown at the same time and place was tmsid=EP7841765000

with Series object

Series 2766100/11 {
ServerVersion = 2
TmsId = SH784176
Title = {What About Brian}
Genre = 25 35 1002 1005
Episodic = 1
ServerId = 10978986
Version = 1
IndexPath = /Server/10978986

When I go into the "new" version of the episode, I geet the option of Get Season Pass suggesting the series ID has been changed and hence breaking the season pass.

Joking aside What not to wear is the same, same time, episode descriptions and not being picked up due to different Id's, and going into the "new" show I'm offered the Get Season Pass option rather than the Edit season pass I should get as I have a season pass for the series as it was.

[cwaring]

The point is they were ON and shown, they just were not picked up by my season pass on my Tivo.
:confused: Today is the 13th September, so how any any of those UB eps have "been shown" already? :confused: ( I know they're repeats. That's not what I meant ;))

Mon 17th Sep 11:00 C4 Ugly Betty
Tue 18th Sep 10:00 C4 Ugly Betty
Tue 18th Sep 10:55 C4 Ugly Betty
Wed 19th Sep 10:00 C4 Ugly Betty
Wed 19th Sep 10:55 C4 Ugly Betty
Thu 20th Sep 10:00 C4 Ugly Betty
Thu 20th Sep 10:55 C4 Ugly Betty

Again, I'll apologise and been suitably embarrased if I have missed something :o

That ep of "What About Brian" was on yesterday according to my Tivo, but then it also picked-up "Working Lunch" as the Daily Call was too early. That might have something to do with it :)

[cwaring]

My SP for Working Lunch did not record today's episode as 'the programme is no longer in the guide data'

Had to set new SP for this programme.
Same here today now :(

Existing TMSID: SH225394
New TMSID: SH784126

[ColinYounger]

I've been getting generic data entries followed by 'the programme is no longer in the guide data' for Two and a Half Men on PCOM1. Interestingly the dates of the generic entries is two weeks ahead (from 1st October to be precise). No idea if I'm missing anything.

Perhaps some channels are now only doing two week refreshes of their data? Or perhaps I'm confused and the data only appears at the 1st of the month. OzSat?

GD checker module in TivoWeb reports that PCOM1 has 'real' data for 1st Oct.

[Gavin]

:
Again, I'll apologise and been suitably embarrased if I have missed something :o

Sorry your right, I was probably going a bit OTT and listing everything with the same typeof error (generic data and not in the guide)

[dvdfever]

Re: Working Lunch
Same here today now :(

Just realised myself that that's happened too.

I wonder if it was thanks to them changing the times of some of the broadcasts this week? Tomorrow's runs from 12-12.45pm instead of 12.30-1.30, and I started adding a manual recording for the latter on a Friday because there were often times when it would presume the programme ran only from 12.30-1pm (like most other days) so I'd only get half a show :(

Next week it's all over the place due to sport.

BTW, I've just cancelled my usual season pass, tried to do another one and its come up telling me I can't, saying "Some information about this programme is still being compiled (or something). Try again in 1-3 hours", then then it's allowing me again.

I think my TiVo's expressing my dislike of Ni(c)k Wood.

[Pete77]

Date:- Thursday 13th September 2007
Program:- Hotel Inspector Unseen
Platform:- Sky Digital
Channel:- Five Life and Five Life+1 Ch 182 & 183

The Program showing at 10pm on Five Life and and at 11pm on Five Life+1 tonight on Sky Digital is the 30 minute long Hotel Inspector Uncovered, as advertised on the preceding 9pm showing of Hotel Inspector on Five (Ch 105).

The Sky EPG is correctly showing this 30 minute program at starting at 10pm on Five Life (182) and 11pm on Five Life+1 (183) but the Tivo EPG lists Build A New Life in the Country at 9pm on Five Life and 10pm on Five Life +1 and then shows that program as lasting for 90 minutes with no Hotel Inspector listed.

Digiguide also correctly shows Build A New Life in the Country as being a 60 minute long program at 9pm on Five Life and 10pm on Five Life+1 followed by Hotel Inspector Uncovered an hour later, so how does Tribune just manage to lose track of the existence of Hotel Inspector Uncovered altogether, and to turn New Life In the Country in to a 90 minute program?

[cwaring]

Another "just broken" SP for you.

"The West Wing", More4 (142 on Virgin Media) 20:00 Sundays.

'No longer in programme guide' according to Recording History, but there plain as day in the EPG.

What's going on ozsat? Despite yet another of Pete's OTT rants, I'd like to think this is just a hiccup rather than anything more sinister. What can I say; I'm a "half-full" kinda guy ;):D

[gallen9]

Channel : Nick Jr Sky 615
Program : Backyardigans
Time 730am Fri 14th Sept

This has been wrong for some time now on Tivo but not on Sky EPG. Is there a bigger problem on Nick Jr and Nick Jr 2?

[sjp]

Sky One - Current season of Weeds also became fractured for me this week but what I'd be interested to know is...

BBC1 and BBC1 Scotland - Same Film, White Oleander (or something similar) with Billy Connolly but broadcast at differents times on different days had differing run times and the synopsis wasn't that similar. Both broadcasts were in the last week or so.

How can the same programme have differing database entries?

[Foxy]

It looks like my existing season passes for "Without a Trace" on C4, C4+1 & More4 are now broken.

[ericd121]

Callsign: C4
Programme Name:Will & Grace
Date/Time: Thursday 20th Sept 00:35am
Problem: Broken Season Pass

Episode not being picked up by current Season Pass.

Callsign: BBC1
Programme Name: Who Do You Think You Are?
Date/Time: Thursday 20th Sept 9:00pm
Problem: Broken Season Pass

Episode not being picked up by current Season Pass.

[cwaring]

Another "just broken" SP for you.
"The West Wing", More4 (142 on Virgin Media) 20:00 Sundays.

Now seems to have been fixed. Sort-of. Both upcoming eps (this and next Sunday) are now showing up under both SPs/TMSIDs. Well it's a fix, I suppose :)

"Working Lunch" still broked though :(

[ericd121]

[West Wing]Now seems to have been fixed. Sort-of. Both upcoming eps (this and next Sunday) are now showing up under both SPs/TMSIDs. Well it's a fix, I suppose :)Not showing up in my original Season Pass (13363 in TivoWeb).
(Last Daily Call 2:33am).

[mrtickle]

OK well I can see what has happened - lots and lots of Season Passes have been destroyed and new ones created. In doing this all OAD information has also been lost. It's as if it is the first time it's being loaded into Tribune's UK database.
Any SP starting with SH784xxx should be suspect (these seem to be the new batch) :mad:
It's very important that the old Season Pass numbers are restored and the Episodes put back!

(my GD checker module for TiVoweb may help people find the rogues - see sig)

Channel Callsign: FXUK, FXPLUS
Programme Name: The Wire
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

Original long-running Season Pass is SH507321.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH784187.

Not one of these should be set as First Runs! They are all old repeats.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 FXUK Mon 17th Sep 22:00 EP7841875001 True Mon 17th Sep 2007 Yes "Game Day"
2 FXPLUS Tue 18th Sep 00:00 EP7841875001 True Mon 17th Sep 2007 Yes "Game Day"
3 FXUK Tue 18th Sep 02:15 EP7841875001 True Mon 17th Sep 2007 Yes "Game Day"
4 FXPLUS Tue 18th Sep 04:15 EP7841875001 True Mon 17th Sep 2007 Yes "Game Day"
5 FXUK Mon 24th Sep 22:00 EP7841875002 True Mon 24th Sep 2007 Yes "Cost"
6 FXPLUS Tue 25th Sep 00:00 EP7841875002 True Mon 24th Sep 2007 Yes "Cost"
7 FXUK Tue 25th Sep 02:15 EP7841875002 True Mon 24th Sep 2007 Yes "Cost"
8 FXPLUS Tue 25th Sep 04:15 EP7841875002 True Mon 24th Sep 2007 Yes "Cost"
9 FXUK Mon 1st Oct 22:00 EP7841875003 True Mon 1st Oct 2007 Yes "The Hunt"
10 FXPLUS Tue 2nd Oct 00:00 EP7841875003 True Mon 1st Oct 2007 Yes "The Hunt"
11 FXUK Sat 6th Oct 01:00 EP7841875003 True Mon 1st Oct 2007 Yes "The Hunt"


Please put them all back into the original SP, thanks.



Channel Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Working Lunch
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

(reported above by Andy Leitch)

Original long-running Season Pass is SH225394.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH784126.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC2 Tue 18th Sep 13:30 SH7841260000 False Tue 11th Sep 2007 Yes (n/a)
2 BBC2 Wed 19th Sep 13:30 SH7841260000 False Tue 11th Sep 2007 Yes (n/a)
3 BBC2 Thu 20th Sep 13:00 SH7841260000 False Tue 11th Sep 2007 Yes (n/a)
4 BBC2 Tue 25th Sep 13:30 SH7841260000 False Tue 11th Sep 2007 Yes (n/a)
5 BBC2 Fri 28th Sep 12:30 SH7841260000 False Tue 11th Sep 2007 Yes (n/a)


Please put them all back into the original SP, thanks.


Channel Callsign: UKGLD, UKGLD1
Programme Name: Wogan: Now and Then
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

Original long-running Season Pass is SH895971.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH784263.

Not one of these should be set as First Runs! They are all old repeats.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 UKGLD Wed 26th Sep 02:40 EP7842635000 True Wed 26th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
2 UKGLD1 Wed 26th Sep 03:40 EP7842635000 True Wed 26th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
3 UKGLD Thu 27th Sep 03:40 EP7842635001 True Thu 27th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
4 UKGLD1 Thu 27th Sep 04:40 EP7842635001 True Thu 27th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
5 UKGLD Fri 28th Sep 01:50 EP7842635002 True Fri 28th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
6 UKGLD1 Fri 28th Sep 02:50 EP7842635002 True Fri 28th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
7 UKGLD Sat 29th Sep 02:15 EP7842635003 True Sat 29th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
8 UKGLD1 Sat 29th Sep 03:15 EP7842635003 True Sat 29th Sep 2007 Yes (no title)
9 UKGLD Wed 3rd Oct 02:40 SH7842630000 False Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
10 UKGLD1 Wed 3rd Oct 03:40 SH7842630000 False Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
11 UKGLD Thu 4th Oct 03:35 SH7842630000 False Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
12 UKGLD1 Thu 4th Oct 04:35 SH7842630000 False Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
13 UKGLD Fri 5th Oct 01:50 SH7842630000 False Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
14 UKGLD1 Fri 5th Oct 02:50 SH7842630000 False Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)

Please put them all back into the original SP, thanks.

[cwaring]

(my GD checker module for TiVoweb may help people find the rogues - see sig)
Indeed. That's how I checked mine. An excellent mod :)

So this is at least a little on-topic ;)...

Not showing up in my original Season Pass (13363 in TivoWeb).
(Last Daily Call 2:33am).
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4338/westwing1mr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Last DC: Sunday 16th Sep at 02:26, but it was like this yesterday too. I've double-checked and both eps are still listed under both SPs :)

[Pete77]

Platform:- Sky Digital
Channel:- 621 CITV
Program:- Captain Scarlet
Date:- 17th September 2007
Time:- 7.15am

The episode shown by Tivo in its EPG is "Homecoming" but the episode actually shown was "Trap For A Rhino" which also matches with the listings at Digiguide.

What's the betting that Tribune now reverts to Generic data as they previously only had for Captain Scarlet, instead of trying to smarten up their act and get the listings right. :mad:

[mrtickle]

Indeed. That's how I checked mine. An excellent mod :)

So this is at least a little on-topic ;)...

:cool:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4338/westwing1mr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Last DC: Sunday 16th Sep at 02:26, but it was like this yesterday too. I've double-checked and both eps are still listed under both SPs :)

Erm, no they're not! As I write this (and your image shows it too), there is only one SP on my TiVo - and it's the rogue imposter 784235, not the real one :-(. The double tick on line 11 means that SP784235 was found on your TiVo. The blue dot on line 12 means that SP316991 was NOT found, but it did find SP784235 on More4 instead. If you hadn't created that SP11, the dot would've been orange not blue to alert you. Normally just scan down the page for the orange dots and check the titles. Btw those graphics are much better than the ones I created, where did you get them? Has someone improved my module but not sent me a copy!? :confused:

[cwaring]

Okay. That's weird, but probably correct :) However, at the time, I'm sure they were both showing up in both SPs :confused: No matter.

As to the icons, sorry but it's so long since I added them I have no idea whose they are or where I got them from. I didn't even realise they weren't the originals :p

[Pete77]

Platform:- Sky Digital
Channel:- 621 CITV
Program:- Captain Scarlet
Date:- 18th September 2007
Time:- 7.15am

The episode shown by Tivo in its EPG is "Mercury Falling" but the episode actually shown was "Heist", which is also the episode indicated as due today in the listings found at Digiguide and in the Sky Digital EPG for this channel.

[Gavin]

Not wishing to make this a discussion have you reported this by phone to Tivo (ie the official route)?

[srcrothers]

Callsign: NickJr/NickJr2 on Virgin Media
Programme Name: -
Date/Time: -
Problem:

Season passes for "Thomas and friends" "Peppa Pig" and "Bob the builder" are frequently incorrect.

[mrtickle]

It's very important that the old Season Pass numbers are restored and the Episodes put back!


The Wire, Working Lunch and Wogan: Now and Then - all fixed! :up: :)

[Pete77]

Platform:- Sky Digital
Channel:- 621 CITV
Program:- Captain Scarlet
Date:- 19th September 2007
Time:- 7.15am

The episode shown by Tivo in its EPG is "Circles of Doom" but the episode actually shown was "The Achilles Messenger", which is also the episode indicated as due today in the listings found at Digiguide and in the Sky Digital EPG for this channel.

[cwaring]

Erm... Pete. This thread's for future listings that are wrong :) Not a great deal of point telling about something that's already been shown, is there? :confused:

[DuncanCorps]

Callsign: SMOVACT ("Sky Movies Action/Thriller" on Sky Digital channel 304)
Programme Name: "The Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift" (TmsId MV762771)
Date/Time: Monday 24 September 2007, 12:00 and 21:00
Problem: Seems to be an unwanted duplicate programme entered into the database, a typo. Duh. I believe these should actually use "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift" (TmsId MV743767), which also has some showings scheduled soon...

Is it my imagination, or are there an unusual number of issues with guide data recently? Has something significant changed at Tribune (staff, software, etc.)?

[Pete77]

Erm... Pete. This thread's for future listings that are wrong :) Not a great deal of point telling about something that's already been shown, is there? :confused:

It is a future related issue as Tribune seems to have got the individual EPG listings wrong for the whole of this run of Captain Scarlet.

Also I have seen other people mention issues about programs that have not recorded etc here but already been broadcast due to faulty EPG data etc without anyone claiming that was not a legitimate issue for this thread. Anyhow Carl no discussions here. You are one of the first to complain when anyone apart form you does it.

[Pete77]

Platform:- Sky Digital
Channel:- 621 CITV
Program:- Captain Scarlet
Time:- 7.15am
Date:- 20th September 2007

The problem with incorrect episode data for Captain Scarlet has now been fixed and today's episode in the Tivo EPG was "Virus" and the episode actually broadcast was also Virus too.

So it seems Tribune are reading this thread and issues reported in it are usually being fixed. :) :up:

[dvdfever]

Channel: BBC2 Sky 102
Programme: Working Lunch
Date: 20th Sept 2007 1.00pm

"This programe was not recorded because it was no longer in the programme guide."

Damn the golf for mucking this up. I could watch it online but when you want to skip through it like on the TiVo because not all of it is of interest..... buffering.... buffering.... buffering.... :mad:

[cwaring]

Mine recorded fine. The SP was broke and then got fixed though, so that might have something to do with it :)

[dvdfever]

Mine recorded fine. The SP was broke and then got fixed though, so that might have something to do with it :)

Thanks. I'd set up a new SP as well :(

I blame Nick Wood, myself. He just annoys me because he's one of those "forward slash" people :)

[mikeyp]

Erm, Bad Boys 2 is on tonight (21/9/2007) at 10:30pm till 1:15am on UKTV GOLD VM channel 124. Tivo is reporting it as "Euromillions: Boom-bang-a-bang!" from 10:20 till 1:15
why is tivo wrong? the virgin cable guide reports it right so why can't my trusty tivo?

[cwaring]

If it was a last-minute schedule changes then Tivo can't handle them. I think there's something like a three-day turn-around required from notice to getting it in the EPG.

(Sorry for the OT, just wanted to explain!)

[mikeyp]

I don't think it's a last minute change thing, the euromillions does start at 10:20, just it's only 10 minutes long.

[Andy Leitch]

Postcode : - DG2
Platform : - Sky Digital
Channel : - 103 ITV1
Program : - F1 Japanese Grand Prix
Time/Date Of Airing : - 4:30am
Date : - Sun 30th September 2007
Problem : - Programme missing from guide data & SP

My SP for F1 will record the qualifying on Sat 29th at 5:30am and the Highlights but the Live GP itself is completely missing from guide data. TiVo has Antiques Auction & ITV Nightscreen in that slot. Please fix asap.

Digiguide has it...

MOTORING: F1: Grand Prix Live
On: ITV1 (103)
Date: Sunday 30th September 2007 (starting in 7 days)
Time: 04:30 to 07:35 (3 hours and 5 minutes long)

Japanese.
Steve Rider presents live coverage of the Japanese Grand Prix. For round 15 of the World Championship, Formula One returns to the Fuji International Speedway after an absence of 30 years. Britain's Lewis Hamilton has a two point lead over McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso, but will the pair be able to keep their cool, or will their bitter rivalry get the better of them? James Allen and Martin Brundle commentate.

ITV website TV listings has it...

F1: Japanese Grand Prix Live
ITV 1 Border
Steve Rider introduces coverage of the 15th round of the season at the Fuji Speedway, a circuit hosting its first Grand Prix since 1977. Fernando Alonso came from fifth on the grid to secure victory at Suzuka last year and, when Michael Schumacher was forced to retire because of engine failure, effectively guaranteed himself a second successive world title. This race is sure to have another huge say on the outcome of the world championship crown, with McLaren team-mates Alonso and Lewis Hamilton embroiled in an enthralling battle that could go in either direction. Commentary by James Allen and Martin Brundle
Sport/Formula One
Sunday 30th September on ITV 1 from 4:30am to 7:35am

....but Tribune don't. :down:

EDIT: I realise that Ozsat...but why is the Live GP missing but the Highlights, which is broadcast some seven hours later that day, is in the guide data.
My SP is set to record the Qualifying and the Highlights only...the Live GP is missing.
If the Live GP timeslot was TBA..then I wouldn't be so concerned...but there are other (wrong) programmes listed in the GP timeslot. This is a legitimate error, IMO.

[OzSat]

For BBC/ITV - the schedules on TiVo are not complete for the following Saturday onwards until usually after the Sunday update.

This has always been the case!

[mrtickle]

Too late to fix, but in case anyone is enjoying the repeats on Sky Two:

Channel Callsign: SKYTWO
Programme Name: Battlestar Galactica
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Sunday 23rd September 02:40
Problem type: wrong data

The next episode - Resurrection Ship part 2 (212) has suddenly been removed from TiVo's guide and has been replaced with "Premier League All Stars Extra Time" (?). Neither Digiguide nor the Sky EPG has this change, and so I think it's wrong. Particularly as the next one is still there.

TiVo users will have to set a manual recording.

The following episode at 03:30 - Epiphanies (213) is still in TiVo's guide.

[ericd121]

Callsign: Film4
Programme Name:Please Sir
Date/Time: Thursday 27th Sept 16:40
Problem: Incorrect Duration

This showing has a 5 minute duration;
the Sun 30th Sep 19:05 showing has a 1:55 duration.


Callsign: Film4
Programme Name:The Battle of the River Plate
Date/Time: Thursday 27th Sept 16:45
Problem: Incorrect Duration

This showing has a 4:15 duration;
the Wed 3rd Oct 18:45 showing has a 2:15 duration.

[Andy Leitch]

Too late to fix, for info only.


Postcode : - DG2
Platform : - Sky Digital
Channel : - 119 ITV3
Program : - F1 Japanese Grand Prix Qualifying
Time/Date Of Airing : - 5:30am
Date : - Sat 29th September 2007
Problem : - Programme won't record due to 28 day rule

My SP for F1 won't record the live Qualifying due to the 28 day rule.....but the repeat on ITV1 at 10am will be recorded. :confused:

Tivo also thinks that the Qualifying was due to be broadcast on ITV1 but 'is no longer in the guide data'..possibly because it's been moved to ITV3

[Andy Leitch]

Postcode : - DG2
Platform : - Sky Digital
Channel : - 101 BBC 1
Program : - Watchdog
Time/Date Of Airing : - 8pm Wed 3/10
Problem : - Broken SP

SP for Watchdog won't record new series.

CONSUMER: Watchdog
On: BBC 1 Scotland (101)
Date: Wednesday 3rd October 2007 (starting in 4 days)
Time: 20:00 to 20:30 (30 minutes long)

Nicky Campbell and Julia Bradbury present the series which rights viewers' wrongs, with some shocking examples of customer service that have left families thousands of pounds out of pocket. Plus, some dramatic results on stories from the last series.
(Stereo, Widescreen, Subtitles)

[=CM=]

BBC4 airs Tues with 6ish repeats Tues/Fri/Sat
Ep 1 of new series went out last Tues. Prog so good Tivo recorded the multiple repeats.

Next week (2 Oct) Tivo will record one showing Tues of ep 2, but catch both repeats on Sat 6 Oct.

Episode listing is boilerplate from the first series and the repeats all have (R) appended.

[DeadKenny]

It's gone past now, but maybe points out a problem with CBBC listings.

Guess it could be a last minute thing, but then I've seen different listings mentioned elsewhere that may match up and were mentioned at least 3 days in advance.

Callsign: CBBC (613 Sky Digital)
Programme Name: The Sarah Jane Adventures
Date/Time: Sat 30th September 2007 6.10pm (duration 50 mins)
Problem: Wrong time. What was shown was it seems the last 20 minutes of what should have been a 2 part double bill, but turned out to be part 1 only.

[mesaka]

2 seperate issues both on SKY postcode SS2

Channel 5, Thursday 4 October: Spurs match in the UEFA cup is not listed. C5 purchased the rights and will be showing it around 15:30.

BBC1, Saturday 6 October Robin Hood - 1st show of new series.

[aerialplug]

Sky Digital

My Sky box is listing a Virgin1 +1 on channel 154 but nothing on the TiVo schedules.

[OzSat]

Sky Digital

My Sky box is listing a Virgin1 +1 on channel 154 but nothing on the TiVo schedules.All correct here - Virgin1 on 153 and +1 on 154.

The channel doesn't have any programmes until 9pm tonight.

[aerialplug]

All correct here - Virgin1 on 153 and +1 on 154.

The channel doesn't have any programmes until 9pm tonight.

I did a reboot to refresh the logos to test them before publishing - and it appeared. How peculiar.

Edit: It's me - I hadn't added 154 as a channel I receive. I guess 153 automatically got changed from FTN to Virgin 1.

[OzSat]

I did a reboot to refresh the logos to test them before publishing - and it appeared. How peculiar.

Edit: It's me - I hadn't added 154 as a channel I receive. I guess 153 automatically got changed from FTN to Virgin 1.yes - and 154 was renamed Virgin1+1 from FTN+1.

[mrtickle]

(this is re: Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe)

BBC4 airs Tues with 6ish repeats Tues/Fri/Sat
Ep 1 of new series went out last Tues. Prog so good Tivo recorded the multiple repeats.

Next week (2 Oct) Tivo will record one showing Tues of ep 2, but catch both repeats on Sat 6 Oct.

Episode listing is boilerplate from the first series and the repeats all have (R) appended.

Here's the current data I have:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC4 Tue 2nd Oct 22:00 EP8995255002 True Tue 2nd Oct 2007 Yes "402"
2 BBC4 Wed 3rd Oct 01:25 EP8995255002 True Tue 2nd Oct 2007 Yes "402"
3 BBC4 Sat 6th Oct 00:20 EP8995255002 True Tue 2nd Oct 2007 Yes "402"
4 BBC4 Sat 6th Oct 21:30 SH8995250000 False Thu 2nd Mar 2006 No (n/a)
5 BBC4 Sun 7th Oct 02:30 SH8995250000 False Thu 2nd Mar 2006 No (n/a)
6 BBC4 Tue 9th Oct 22:00 EP8995255003 True Tue 9th Oct 2007 Yes "403"
7 BBC4 Wed 10th Oct 02:30 EP8995255003 True Tue 9th Oct 2007 Yes "403"
8 BBC4 Sat 13th Oct 00:10 EP8995255003 True Tue 9th Oct 2007 Yes "403"
9 BBC4 Sat 13th Oct 21:30 SH8995250000 False Thu 2nd Mar 2006 No (n/a)


(The Episode titles are mine, for clarity).

Good data for the weekday showings, with TmsIDs all set to prevent duplicates being recorded - it's just those odd weekend showings that still need fixing please. Showings 4 and 5 should be the same Episode as 1-3, and showing 9 should be the same Episode as 8.

[mrtickle]

Many thanks for fixing the last batch of errors :)

Channel Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: What the Papers Say
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Rogue new Season Pass, existing Season Pass doesn't work


Original long-running Season Pass is SH408045.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH787921.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC2 Sat 6th Oct 17:10 EP7879215000 True Sat 6th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)


Please put them this series back into the original SP, thanks.



Channel Callsign: BBC1 all regions
Programme Name: Watchdog
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Rogue new Season Pass, existing Season Pass doesn't work

(reported above by Andy Leitch - here's some more detail)

Original long-running Season Pass is SH225305.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH786722.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC1WSM Wed 3rd Oct 20:00 EP7867225000 True Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
2 BBC1WSM Mon 8th Oct 00:50 EP7867225000 True Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
3 BBC1WSM Wed 10th Oct 20:00 EP7867225001 True Wed 10th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)


Please put them this series back into the original SP, thanks.



Channel Callsign: NATGEO, NATG1
Programme Name: MegaStructures
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

Original long-running Season Pass is SH683072.
Two new split imposter Season Passes:SH783703 and SH783704


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 NATGEO Sun 14th Oct 20:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
2 NATG1 Sun 14th Oct 21:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
3 NATGEO Mon 15th Oct 01:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
4 NATG1 Mon 15th Oct 02:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
5 NATGEO Thu 18th Oct 21:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
6 NATG1 Thu 18th Oct 22:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
7 NATGEO Fri 19th Oct 00:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
8 NATG1 Fri 19th Oct 01:00 SH7837040000 False Sun 14th Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)

1 NATGEO Sun 21st Oct 13:00 SH7837030000 False Sun 21st Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)
2 NATG1 Sun 21st Oct 14:00 SH7837030000 False Sun 21st Oct 2007 Yes (n/a)


Please put them all back into the original SP, thanks.

[mjk]

Callsign:FXUK & FX+2
Programme Name:Charlie Jade
Date/Time:08/12/07 0045 and 0245
Problem: TiVo thinks that McGyver is being shown in this time slot.

It would be good if this could be fixed.

[OzSat]

Callsign:FXUK & FX+2
Programme Name:Charlie Jade
Date/Time:08/12/07 0045 and 0245
Problem: TiVo thinks that McGyver is being shown in this time slot.

It would be good if this could be fixed.
Can you confirm the date/time?

[cwaring]

It was a bit short notice. He meant THIS MORNING, 8/10/07

[poppadum]

Channel Callsign: BBC1 all regions
Programme Name: Who Do You Think You Are?
Date/Time: Thu 11 Oct 2100 and Thu 18 Oct 2100
Problem: Rogue new Season Pass; existing Season Pass doesn't pick up latest episodes

[mjk]

Can you confirm the date/time?

Good question! I meant 08/10/07, i.e. today. In fact this is incorrect every Monday, which was the real problem I was tryuing to address. EPG show 4 showings of each episode on (2 on FXUK and 2 on FXUK+2) when in reality there are 6 showings. I recorded "MacGuyver" last night and can confoirm that I did successfuly record Charlie Jade!

Can be verified at http://www.fxuk.com/schedule/

Regards,

Martin

[cwaring]

Channel: More4 (142)
Show: Studio 60...
Problem: This programme is shown on a Thursday @ 10pm then repeated on late on Sunday night/Monday morning. This week's Thursday ep is entitled "Money" while the repeat is called "Monday". According to EpGuides (http://epguides.com/Studio60ontheSunsetStrip/), the latter is the correct title. Consequently, both episodes are being scheduled to record. (SP is set to FR&R).

Although not a major problem, I thought I'd mention it anyway, just so you know :)

[johala_reewi]

Postcode : - SO45
Platform : - Freeview
Channel : - bbc2
Program : - Have I Got News for You
Time/Date Of Airing : - 22:00
Date : - mon 15 oct 2007
Problem : - This is a repeat of the episode to be shown on fri 12 oct at 2100 on bbc1sth. Tivo has it as a separate episode.

[OzSat]

Good question! I meant 08/10/07, i.e. today. In fact this is incorrect every Monday, which was the real problem I was tryuing to address. EPG show 4 showings of each episode on (2 on FXUK and 2 on FXUK+2) when in reality there are 6 showings. I recorded "MacGuyver" last night and can confoirm that I did successfuly record Charlie Jade!

Can be verified at http://www.fxuk.com/schedule/

Regards,

MartinMy TiVo lists Charlie Jade at these times.

[OzSat]

Postcode : - SO45
Platform : - Freeview
Channel : - bbc2
Program : - Have I Got News for You
Time/Date Of Airing : - 22:00
Date : - mon 15 oct 2007
Problem : - This is a repeat of the episode to be shown on fri 12 oct at 2100 on bbc1sth. Tivo has it as a separate episode.This should already be fixed so you should see it tomorrow.

[OzSat]

Channel: More4 (142)
Show: Studio 60...
Problem: This programme is shown on a Thursday @ 10pm then repeated on late on Sunday night/Monday morning. This week's Thursday ep is entitled "Money" while the repeat is called "Monday". According to EpGuides (http://epguides.com/Studio60ontheSunsetStrip/), the latter is the correct title. Consequently, both episodes are being scheduled to record. (SP is set to FR&R).

Although not a major problem, I thought I'd mention it anyway, just so you know :)Should see fix in time for first showing.

[mjk]

My TiVo lists Charlie Jade at these times.

Very strange. It was definitely the Monday showings that were missing a couple of days ago - I had to tell TiVo to record MacGuyver in order to get Charlie Jade on Monday night.

Checking further, it seems that Digiguide is wrong as it shows spurious broadcasts during on Sunday evenings.

All very confusing. The g0ood thing is that the TiVo EPG now seems to be correct.

Regards,

Martin

[mjk]

My TiVo lists Charlie Jade at these times.

Very strange. It was definitely the Monday showings that were missing a couple of days ago - I had to tell TiVo to record MacGuyver in order to get Charlie Jade on Monday night.

Checking further, it seems that Digiguide is wrong as it shows spurious broadcasts during on Sunday evenings.

All very confusing. The good thing is that the TiVo EPG now seems to be correct.

Regards,

Martin

[OzSat]

Looks as if FX have been doing late changes and not telling everyone.

If Tribune got the updates on Friday - you would not have seen them until you update on Sunday - which could have been very late.

Best to get TiVo to do updates as early as possible - but after 1am.


As a guide, the Guide Data To Date 'day' should be the same as the day today - except there is no new days worth of data on a Monday. So the Guide Data Ro Date 'Day' for today (Tuesday) should also be Tuesday.

Please ensure this is true before posting errors here - as some problems reported have already been fixed but the users TiVo is not up-to-date.

[ColinYounger]

Sorry OzSat, but that first red sentence made no sense to me at all. Can you explain it to an idiot, please?

Sorry!

[ericd121]

As a guide, the Guide Data To Date 'day' should be the same as the day today - except there is no new days worth of data on a Monday. So the Guide Data Ro Date 'Day' for today (Tuesday) should also be Tuesday.

Please ensure this is true before posting errors here - as some problems reported have already been fixed but the users TiVo is not up-to-date.Sorry OzSat, but that first red sentence made no sense to me at all. Can you explain it to an idiot, please?In the System Information page, and on the Phone page of TivoWeb, the Prog. Guide Data to field will state something like
Monday 29th Oct 2007.

The day of the week should be today's day of the week;
if it isn't, your Guide Data isn't up to date, and you shouldn't post errors until it is.

[OzSat]

That's it - although the Guide Data Date To day is never a Monday - so on a Monday it says Sunday (as it does on a Sunday) and on a Tuesday it says Tuesday.

If it is not today's day - then you guide data is not up-to-date (unless the servers are down).

Now back to bring On Topic for this thread.

[mrtickle]

It's over a week since I reported these two now, but neither has been fixed; please can they be kicked very hard? :) Both series now have more new episodes loaded into the rogue SP. Thanks for fixing Megastructures btw.



Channel Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: What the Papers Say
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Rogue new Season Pass, existing Season Pass doesn't work


Original long-running Season Pass is SH408045.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH787921.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC2 Sat 6th Oct 17:10 EP7879215000 True Sat 6th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)


Please put them this series back into the original SP, thanks.



Channel Callsign: BBC1 all regions
Programme Name: Watchdog
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Rogue new Season Pass, existing Season Pass doesn't work

(reported above by Andy Leitch - here's some more detail)

Original long-running Season Pass is SH225305.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH786722.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC1WSM Wed 3rd Oct 20:00 EP7867225000 True Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
2 BBC1WSM Mon 8th Oct 00:50 EP7867225000 True Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
3 BBC1WSM Wed 10th Oct 20:00 EP7867225001 True Wed 10th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)


Please put them this series back into the original SP, thanks.

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: FKUK, FXPLUS
Programme Name: Penn & Teller: Bulls...!
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: wrong episode data

Firstly, the series title is censored :-(. From past experience I doubt this will be fixed but I strongly re-protest about this.

Secondly, there is the same problem as with Mythbusters on Discovery last month.
Several old episodes (which are being repeated and already have Episode records at Tribune) have somehow been allocated new TmsIDs and marked as 1st Runs :-(


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
7 FXUK Tue 23rd Oct 01:10 EP5478185036 True Tue 23rd Oct 2007 Yes "Cryptozoology"
8 FXPLUS Tue 23rd Oct 03:10 EP5478185036 True Tue 23rd Oct 2007 Yes "Cryptozoology"
9 FXUK Sun 28th Oct 02:20 EP5478185036 True Tue 23rd Oct 2007 Yes "Cryptozoology"
10 FXPLUS Sun 28th Oct 04:20 EP5478185036 True Tue 23rd Oct 2007 Yes "Cryptozoology"


"Cryptozoology" is not new, and was EP5478185029 when it was last shown.



11 FXUK Tue 30th Oct 02:10 EP5478185037 True Tue 30th Oct 2007 Yes "Ground Zero"
12 FXPLUS Tue 30th Oct 04:10 EP5478185037 True Tue 30th Oct 2007 Yes "Ground Zero"


"Ground Zero" is not new, and was EP5478185030 when it was last shown.



Channel Callsign: BBCR4FM
Programme Name: The News Quiz
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBCR4FM Fri 12th Oct 18:30 EP5178905048 True Fri 5th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
2 BBCR4FM Sat 13th Oct 12:30 EP5178905027 True Fri 22nd Sep 2006 No (no title)

3 BBCR4FM Fri 19th Oct 18:30 EP5178905030 True Fri 13th Oct 2006 No (no title)
4 BBCR4FM Sat 20th Oct 12:30 EP5178905030 True Fri 13th Oct 2006 No (no title)

5 BBCR4FM Fri 26th Oct 18:30 EP5178905030 True Fri 13th Oct 2006 No (no title)


The 5th episode here is EP5178905030 but it should be different otherwise it won't get recorded.
(Tommorrow's episode should have been EP5178905048 to match today's because it is a duplicate, but I realist it's too late to fix now.)



Channel Callsign: BBCR7
Programme Name: Just a Minute
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Thursdays at 12:30, repeated at 19:30
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates



No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBCR7 Thu 18th Oct 12:30 EP5205115062 True Thu 15th Feb 2007 No (no title)
2 BBCR7 Thu 18th Oct 19:30 EP5205115062 True Thu 15th Feb 2007 No (no title)



Every single week, EP5205115062 is used. That would be ok for 1 week and it's nice to have the duplicate pair on the same day - but not every week; a Season Pass won't work and will not record more than 1 episode a month.

[ColinYounger]

Prime Minister's Questions OAD on BBCPARL has been tweaked (Thanks!), but it isn't right yet. The 'episodes' now have an OAD of Wed 6th Mar 2002.

This means that TiVo cannot just pick up the new live 'episode'. It also means that TiVo will not record each weekly 'episode' due to the 28 day rule (well, mine doesn't anyway).

Episode Title <none>
Episode Description Coverage of questions in the House of Commons to the Prime Minister, Tony Blair. (!)
Episode Number <blank>
Duration 0:30
Original Air Date Wed 6th Mar 2002
Genres News, Public Affairs, Politics
Type Series
Channel 612 BBCPARL
Showing Date Wed 17th Oct 12:00

Lineup: VM
Postcode area: PO4

[b166er]

If you've got season passes on ITV1 and ITV4 for Formula 1, you might wanna check your TO DO list. I noticed that the qualifying on ITV4 wasn't going to record for me this upcoming weekend. I'm too tired to find out why, but here's a quick heads-up.

[cwaring]

I've just noticed that a FROSP for "Smallville" (new eps Sun @ 9pm, repeated Sat @ 7pm) on E4 won't work. However, a FR&RSP picks-up far too many of the repeats to be useful :(

Probably too far into the season to worry now though!

[TCM2007]

I've just noticed that a FROSP for "Smallville" (new eps Sun @ 9pm, repeated Sat @ 7pm) on E4 won't work. However, a FR&RSP picks-up far too many of the repeats to be useful :(

Probably too far into the season to worry now though!

OAD is wrong, however, from this weekend on there appear to be no more "old" repeats in the data so a regular SP should be fine.

[ericd121]

Heads Up

Not content with moving Sunday's repeat of Match of the Day from BBC1 to BBC2,
the Beeb have moved Match of the Day 2 to from BBC2 to BBC1.

Just a head's up for those that might not spot it.

Match of the Day 2
Sunday 21 October
10:20pm - 11:05pm
BBC1

[johala_reewi]

Postcode : - SO45
Platform : - Freeview
Channel : - bbc1
Program : - Spooks
Time/Date Of Airing : - 21:00
Date : - tue 23 oct 2007
Problem : - This is a repeat of the episode shown on tue 16th oct on BBC3. Tivo has this as a new episode and is going to record it again.

[johala_reewi]

Postcode : - SO45
Platform : - Freeview
Channel : - itv1
Program : - Tonight
Problem : - Broken SP

The lastest batch of tonight with trevor McDonald are not picked up by my season pass. :(



The original series id is TmsId SH327261

Series 57500/12 {
ServerVersion = 43
TmsId = SH327261
Title = {Tonight With Trevor McDonald}
Genre = 73 106 1007 1010 1003 77
Episodic = 1
ServerId = 8853
Version = 65
ThumbData = 268501005
IndexPath = /Server/8853
}

And the new one seems to be TmsId SH875171
Series 1205011/82 {
ServerVersion = 93
TmsId = SH875171
Title = {Diet Pill Danger: Tonight}
Genre = 34 77 1004 1007
Episodic = 1
(attribute 0x40019 not in schema)
ServerId = 1479759
Version = 55
IndexPath = /Server/1479759
}

[johala_reewi]

Postcode : - SO45
Platform : - Freeview
Channel : - C4 / C4P1/E4/E4P1
Program : - Wife Swap
Problem : - Broken SP

Current series not picked up by established SP.

Original Series
Series 258963/22 {
ServerVersion = 14
TmsId = SH556242
Title = {Wife Swap}
Genre = 79 183 1000
Episodic = 1
ServerId = 713091
Version = 85
ThumbData = 268632319
IndexPath = /Server/713091
}

Current Series
Series 1556367/12 {
ServerVersion = 4
TmsId = SH784240
Title = {Wife Swap}
Genre = 79 183 1000
Episodic = 1
ServerId = 10978937
Version = 6
ThumbData = 268501030
IndexPath = /Server/10978937
}

[OzSat]

Playhouse Display + schedule will be corrected in tomorrow morning's update.

[SRB]

BBC2 NI, Listings for tonight, 1/11/ and tomorrow 2/11 are incorrect. An example, according to the EPG the Tudors are on now (21:30) instead of this time tomorrow.

[Mark Bennett]

Postcode : - GU14
Platform : - Sky
Channel : - Sky 1
Program : - Bones
Problem : - Broken SP?

There is something odd going on with "Bones" - the Season Pass I had from last season has been renamed to "Bones: The Story So Far" which is a the typical tacky behind the scenes sort of thing, aimed at those who have never watched the show before...

Anyway. The SP only picks up this non-series programme, and has failed to pick up any of the new Episopes (starting Thursday 8th Nov), even though the First Run dates are this year, and there are no conflicts with other programmes.

[JudyB]

There is something odd going on with "Bones" - the Season Pass I had from last season has been renamed to "Bones: The Story So Far" which is a the typical tacky behind the scenes sort of thing, aimed at those who have never watched the show before...

Anyway. The SP only picks up this non-series programme, and has failed to pick up any of the new Episopes (starting Thursday 8th Nov), even though the First Run dates are this year, and there are no conflicts with other programmes.
I don't think that there is a problem with the Season Pass picking up the specials (there should be two BTW) since I *do* view these as part of the series. Last time I looked our existing SP was due to record the new series next week, but we don't use FROSP (I'm not clear if you do).

[OzSat]

Postcode : - GU14
Platform : - Sky
Channel : - Sky 1
Program : - Bones
Problem : - Broken SP?

There is something odd going on with "Bones" - the Season Pass I had from last season has been renamed to "Bones: The Story So Far" which is a the typical tacky behind the scenes sort of thing, aimed at those who have never watched the show before...

Anyway. The SP only picks up this non-series programme, and has failed to pick up any of the new Episopes (starting Thursday 8th Nov), even though the First Run dates are this year, and there are no conflicts with other programmes.Its a feature of how the name is displayed in the SP list.

The series name is always a copy of one of the programme names in that series - although within a series there can be different programme names although usually they would all be the same.

So: with the series 'Bones' the programme name has always been 'Bones' - but there is another programme in the same series called 'Bones: The Story So Far' - and TiVo is display this programme name as the series 'title'.

[Mark Bennett]

Hmmm... I don't understand the change of Season Pass name - this doesn't happen with episodes? (I'm confused about this - it's not a problem as such :) )

Shouldn't it be SP "Bones" with an episode title of "Bones: The Story so far"?

My SP for this is set for FRO, I'm very happy for specials to be recorded (don't you hate it when they don't?!) however in this case, my Tivo has picked up and scheduled 2 instances of the Cat Deely presented specials to record (the 1st last night), but no showings of the other special, and none of the new episodes. All have instances with nothing conflicting.

All the specials and new and old episodes are listed in TivoWeb though under the "new" SP title.


Concious that this in "No discussion" I'll leave it at that - but something appears not to be right.

[OzSat]

For specials (but not special episodes) to be recorded - then they have to be in the series - hence the problem.

For display purposes making 'The story so far' an episode title would work - but would be factually incorrect.

Its a fault in TiVo's system that a single SP can not link to different programme titles (IMHO).

[BaggieBoy]

Sky One (on Sky Digital) is strange tonight. It lists Stargate:Atlantis as starting at 7PM and finishing at 8:30PM (90 minutes) and the Town Called Eureka from 8:30PM to 9PM (30 minutes). Clearly SG:A should finish at 8PM and Eureka start at 8PM.

[ericd121]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name:Dragon's Den
Date/Time: Monday 5th Nov 9:00pm
Problem: Broken Season Pass

Episode not being picked up by current Season Pass.

[AMc]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Dragon's Den
Date/Time: Monday 5th Nov 9:00pm
Problem: Broken Season Pass

Episode not being picked up by current Season Pass.
Confirmed in NR13 on Freeview BBC2 and thanks to Eric for the heads up!

Amusing...
Programme Name: Dragon's Den
Programme Name:Dragon's Den

[Gavin]

Bit irrelevant as it's after the event but last nights (Sunday the 4th) showing of Fanny Hill had a date of 2008 on it.

I guess it's a typo , but if it's not can I have next saturdays lottery results please.

More relevant was the TMSID was the same for the 2 ep's shown so were seen as the same episode.


Fanny Hill
Description After losing her parents to smallpox, Fanny travels to London where, employed by local madam Mrs Brown, her virtue is tested by the lascivious Mr Crofts. Eloping with her true love Charles, Fanny temporarily basks in happy domesticity.
Year 2008
Channel 107 BBC4
Showing Date Sun 4th Nov 22:50
MFS Data tmsid=MV7713940000, ShowingObject, SeriesObject

[warrenrb]

Callsign: CBEEBIES
Programme Name:Autumnwatch
Date/Time: Twice Daily
Problem: Broken Season Pass

Autumnwatch on cbeebies isn't working - it seems like Tivo thinks they are all the same episode (there is one, shown twice, each day). It's doing the "another showing is/was available" message in the history).

My daughter will be very disappointed! :)

[BaggieBoy]

Postcode : - RG26
Platform : - Sky
Channel : - BBC 3
Program : - The Mighty Boosh
Problem : - Broken SP

Series 3 starts on the 15/11, however existing season pass does not pick it up. Had to create a new SP.

[mrtickle]

Its a feature of how the name is displayed in the SP list.

The series name is always a copy of one of the programme names in that series - although within a series there can be different programme names although usually they would all be the same.


This is used very nicely on More 4 for The Daily Show. On Mondays they show the weekly "Global Edition" (also on CNN over the weekends). The programme name changes for this, and changes back to "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" for Tues-Fri.

Apols for the OT post but while I'm at it - the programme is Dragons' Den (for >1 dragon), not Dragon's Den (which would only be for 1 dragon!). The BBC and TiVo happily both get it right. :D.

Off to gather my next bunch of errors now :).

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: BBCR4FM
Programme Name: The News Quiz
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

I posted this last month:


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBCR4FM Fri 12th Oct 18:30 EP5178905048 True Fri 5th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
2 BBCR4FM Sat 13th Oct 12:30 EP5178905027 True Fri 22nd Sep 2006 No (no title)

3 BBCR4FM Fri 19th Oct 18:30 EP5178905030 True Fri 13th Oct 2006 No (no title)
4 BBCR4FM Sat 20th Oct 12:30 EP5178905030 True Fri 13th Oct 2006 No (no title)

5 BBCR4FM Fri 26th Oct 18:30 EP5178905030 True Fri 13th Oct 2006 No (no title)


The 5th episode here is EP5178905030 but it should be different otherwise it won't get recorded.


No sooner was it fixed but then broken again! Last week I only caught it in the nick of time, and the next two episodes are both back to duplicates of EP5178905030 again.

Please fix, again. Thanks.


========================


Channel Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: What the Papers Say
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Rogue new Season Pass, existing Season Pass doesn't work

I posted this last month:


Original long-running Season Pass is SH408045.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH787921.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC2 Sat 6th Oct 17:10 EP7879215000 True Sat 6th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)


Please put them this series back into the original SP, thanks.


Still not fixed, and there is now a 3rd new split imposter Season Pass!


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
0 BBC2 Sat 3rd Nov 17:55 EP7889585004 True Sat 3rd Nov 2007 Yes (no title)
1 BBC2 Sat 10th Nov 17:55 EP7889585005 True Sat 10th Nov 2007 Yes (no title)


Please put them this series back into the original SP SH408045, thanks.


========================



Channel Callsign: BBC1 all regions
Programme Name: Watchdog
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: Rogue new Season Pass, existing Season Pass doesn't work


Original long-running Season Pass is SH225305.
New split imposter Season Pass is SH786722.


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC1WSM Wed 3rd Oct 20:00 EP7867225000 True Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
2 BBC1WSM Mon 8th Oct 00:50 EP7867225000 True Wed 3rd Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
3 BBC1WSM Wed 10th Oct 20:00 EP7867225001 True Wed 10th Oct 2007 Yes (no title)

0 BBC1WSM Mon 5th Nov 02:05 EP7867225004 True Wed 31st Oct 2007 Yes (no title)
1 BBC1WSM Mon 12th Nov 01:25 EP7867225006 True Wed 7th Nov 2007 Yes (no title)
2 BBC1WSM Wed 14th Nov 20:00 EP7867225007 True Wed 14th Nov 2007 Yes (no title)


It's still not fixed.

Please put them this series back into the original SP SH225305, thanks.


========================


Channel Callsign: BBC1 all regions
Programme Name: Points of View
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
0 BBC1WSM Sun 6th Nov 16:10 EP4075975004 True Sun 6th Nov 2005 No (no title)
1 BBC1WSM Sun 11th Nov 17:35 EP4075975004 True Sun 6th Nov 2005 No (no title)


Each week's episode is EP4075975004, a Season Pass won't work and will not record more than 1 episode a month.

Very hard to spot unless you log TMS IDs or happen to look at the data on a weekend before Sunday afternoon when you can see two episodes in the data.

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: BBCR4FM
Programme Name: I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBCR4FM Mon 12th Nov 18:30 EP5130405056 True Mon 12th Nov 2007 Yes (no title)
2 BBCR4FM Sun 18th Nov 12:00 EP5130405056 True Mon 12th Nov 2007 Yes (no title)

3 BBCR4FM Mon 19th Nov 18:30 EP5130405056 True Mon 12th Nov 2007 Yes (no title)



Each week's episode is EP5130405056, a Season Pass won't work and will not record more than 1 episode a month.
The Sunday episode is a duplicate of the previous Monday. In the above set, the 3rd episode should be different to 1+2.

[RichieB]

HI All,

Ugly Betty has disappeared completely from the listings. It is not even finding it as a programme so there is no alternative to my season pass (which is set up for E4 +1). No episodes scheduled.

There are episodes starting on the 18th according to the Channel 4 website so it is being shown.

Please can you help? Wife is desperate and coming down with a cold :(

According to the Channel 4 Website:
E4 Sunday 18 Nov 8.00PM
E4 Wednesday 21 Nov 9.00PM
C4 Friday 23 Nov 9.00PM
C4 Sunday 25 Nov 2.35PM

Thanks

[OzSat]

HI All,

Ugly Betty has disappeared completely from the listings. It is not even finding it as a programme so there is no alternative to my season pass (which is set up for E4 +1). No episodes scheduled.

There are episodes starting on the 13th according to the Channel 4 website so it is being shown.

Please can you help? Wife is desperate and coming down with a cold :(

ThanksYou need to post the times it should be on so TiVo listings can be checked.

[RichieB]

You need to post the times it should be on so TiVo listings can be checked.

Thanks - have amended original post. :up:

[OzSat]

According to the Channel 4 Website:
E4 Sunday 18 Nov 8.00PM
E4 Wednesday 21 Nov 9.00PM
C4 Friday 23 Nov 9.00PM
C4 Sunday 25 Nov 2.35PM

ThanksMy TiVo has Ugly Betty listing at these times :confused:

[RichieB]

??? Let me check again after tonights TiVo call.

Thanks

[cwaring]

FYI, no SP here but have found those listings here too.

[Andy Leitch]

Callsign: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: DG2
Programme Name: Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares
Date/Time: 13th Nov 9pm
Problem: Broken SP

Last night's broadcast did not record due to the 28 day rule.

[Pete77]

Callsign: BBC Two
Channel Number: 102
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: RH5
Programme Name: Long Way Down
Date/Time: 4th Nov 9pm and 6th Nov 11.20pm
Problem: Use of Generic instead of episode specific data causing repeat showing of program on Tuesday to be recorded by Season Pass

My Season Pass for Long Way Down on BBC Two recorded both the episodes on 4th November at 9pm and Tuesday 6th November 11.20pm, even the Tuesday showing is a repeat of the Sunday program.

I would have thought that Long Way Down fell under the heading of a popular series on one of the main channels at peak evening viewing time that Tribune staff would be under special instructions to make sure to get right, even though getting everything right on all the channels they cover at all times in terms of Series Linking is obviously a huge task.

This seems to have been fixed this week and only the Sunday program was recorded by my SP but out of interest who was at fault here? Was it Tribune or was it the BBC in the way that they supplied the original data?

[mrtickle]

Callsign: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: DG2
Programme Name: Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares
Date/Time: 13th Nov 9pm
Problem: Broken SP

Last night's broadcast did not record due to the 28 day rule.

I'm not sure why you think that, I think the data is correct.

In this series so far we've had:
Ruby Tates in Brighton (1/8) - EP6589375018 on 30th Oct.
Piccolo Teatro in Paris (2/8) - EP6589375019 on 6th Nov.

This week's episode revisiting the Fenwick Arms in Lancashire, was EP6589375020. For the recording to not record due to the 28 day rule and for the recording history to say so, you would've had to have recorded EP6589375020 before, or, you've set up a future recording for one of the several repeats of this (eg Sunday on More4) I think?

Next week another revisit - La Parra de Burriana in Spain, and it's EP6589375021. Again a different Ep and good data.

If you have TiVoweb you could check the "Cancel Reason" which is shown in the recording history for the episode that didn't record.

[Andy Leitch]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6127/dcp08781of2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp08781of2.jpg)

The data *is* wrong and the SP *is* broken.

Just because your TiVo records the programme correctly that doesn't mean every other TiVo will too. When my TiVo ran out of guide data on BBC2 and therefore failed to record...were you affected?

[mrtickle]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6127/dcp08781of2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp08781of2.jpg)

The data *is* wrong and the SP *is* broken.


Sorry but just reasserting that doesn't help anyone. I'm trying to get to the bottom of why it didn't record for you and coming up with possible reasons. I did that by digging through the TmsIDs, these come from Tribune's servers - they aren't generated locally on our TiVos.


Just because your TiVo records the programme correctly that doesn't mean every other TiVo will too.

Equally just beacuse a recording didn't occur on one TiVo, it does not mean the data was wrong for everyone. There are several reasons why the "another showing was available" message can appear in the recording history. If you don't have tivoweb it's going to be difficult to investigate further, sadly. (Tivoweb's history module gives further links to which recording it thinks it was a duplicate of, etc) :(

[johala_reewi]

Postcode : - SO45
Platform : - Freeview
Channel : - BBC1
Program : - Spooks
Date/Time : - Tue 20-Nov-07 21:00
Problem : - Wrong episode??

Repeat of episode shown Tue 13th November 22:30 BBC3 but episode description is different. In fact, it looks like The spooks data has gone awry. Each episode first airs on BBC3 Tue at 22:30. It is then repeated a week later on BBC1 at 21:00.

[cwaring]

Just done my usual one-month subs to the Sky Movie package; my Christmas treat to myself.

While hunting out films to record, I came across this slight anomoly. It seems that there's two entries for one particular film; as follows:

Not only "The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift" but also "The Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift"; with the former being the correct title :)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7213/fast1wy6.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fast1wy6.jpg)

[Pete77]

Just done my usual one-month subs to the Sky Movie package; my Christmas treat to myself.

While hunting out films to record, I came across this slight anomoly. It seems that there's two entries for one particular film; as follows:

Not only "The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift" but also "The Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift"; with the former being the correct title :)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7213/fast1wy6.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fast1wy6.jpg)


It looks like each of the three showings is simply incorrectly duplicated with the same details.

As they aren't yet recorded I can't get at the TMSID in Tivoweb but I assume that each of the duplicates must have a different TMSID number?

[TCM2007]

As you wouldn't set a SP for film, er does it matter?

[cwaring]

Well I was looking (but of course couldn't find) the TMSIDs simply to compare them as I assume that the database thinks they're different films :)

[Pete77]

Well I was looking (but of course couldn't find) the TMSIDs simply to compare them as I assume that the database thinks they're different films :)


But as they are both shown at identical times on the same channel it is impossible for Tivo to record them both. Anyhow this is getting dangerously close to a discussion so enough said.

[cwaring]

But as they are both shown at identical times on the same channel it is impossible for Tivo to record them both.
Huh? No they're not :confused:
Anyhow this is getting dangerously close to a discussion so enough said.
I thought so too. I'm done!

[Pete77]

Huh? No they're not :confused:!

I was going from the data on my Tivo where there are two showings of each episode at the same time. It seems that is different from what is shown in your post.

Perhaps they revised the data as a result?

[cwaring]

Don't think so. Mine looks the same.

However, just so this isn't "discussion", I've just spotted another similar problem. (and yes, this is geniune ;))

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9914/brady1es6.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brady1es6.jpg)

PMSL :D

[cwaring]

Callsign: five
Programme Name: NCIS
Date/Time: Dec 7 / 21:00
Problem: FROSP not picking up new season due to OAD being wrong; probably the FXUK premier dates, or the US I'm not sure which.

I know we're not supposed to rely on a FROSP, but given the number of repeats of previous seasons on this channel it would be nice if it worked as it's supposed to on this occasion :)

ETA: Yes, the given OAD is the US OAD and not even the UK FX OAD :( Fat lot of use that would have been anyway then :mad:

[Andy Leitch]

Callsign: BBC2Sco
Channel Number: 102
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: DG2
Programme Name: Shark Therapy
Date/Time: Sun 25th Nov 5.30pm & 2nd Dec 5.30pm
Problem: Unable to set SP



DOCUMENTARY: Shark Therapy
On: BBC 2 Scotland (Digital) (102)
Date: Sunday 2nd December 2007 (starting in 6 days)
Time: 17:30 to 18:00 (30 minutes long)

Second of a two-part programme about world champion freediver Tanya Streeter. To conquer her phobia, she dares herself to swim with sharks in the Bahamas.
(Stereo, Repeat, Widescreen, Subtitles)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide

[cwaring]

I think two-parters don't usually qualify for a SP :)

[JudyB]

Callsign: FXUK
Channel Number: 165
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: OX14
Programme Name: Murder One
Date/Time: Tues 27th Nov 11:10pm, Wed 28th Nov 1:10 am
Problem: Possible incorrect times

The Sky EPG and the Radio Times both show Murder One as only being on at 2:10 am on Wed 28th.
Unfortunately the FXUK website seems to agree with the Tivo listings, so I don't know for certain which is correct!

Having been caught out before with the Tivo data for FXPLUS being wrong on this before, my guess is that Sky/RT are correct.
Note: This may be caused in part by the apparent lack of recent updates, but I don't know how recently the time was changed (if it *has* changed).

[cwaring]

Callsign: HALLMK
Channel Number: 190
Provider: Virgin Media
Postcode: HG5
Programme Name: Crossing Jordan
Date/Time: Weekdays @ 12pm and 7pm
Problem: Hallmark must have pulled Ep 17 "Crime & Punishment" without telling anyone, so all episode titles/descriptions are now one episode out.

It's an easy fix; please :)

[Andy Leitch]

I think two-parters don't usually qualify for a SP :)
You may be right but I`ve had plenty of 2-part SP`s in the past.

Why should some 2-parters be SP-able and other`s not?

Another non-SP-able 2 parter......

HISTORY DOCUMENTARY: Killing Hitler
On: UKTV History (537)
Date: Saturday 1st December 2007 (starting this morning)
Time: 08:00 to 09:00 (1 hour long)

The conclusion to the remarkable two-part documentary examining the British plot to kill Adolf Hitler in 1944, an official secret until it was revealed by the Public Records Office in 1998.
(Part 2 of 2, Subtitles)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide

[riggers]

Tivo has the Arena special about Ken Dodd on BBC2 at 8pm on Christmas Eve as lasting for 2 hours 10 minutes. This seems to be on all variations of BBC2.

My listings mag has it as a 1 hour programme, which is its usual length, followed by The Comedy Christmas at 9pm that lasts 1 hour 10 minutes.

Suspect Tivo is wrong

riggers

[riggers]

Now correct, thanks to all concerned

riggers

[Andy Leitch]

Too late to fix...for info only.

Callsign: CH4
Channel Number: 104
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: DG2
Programme Name: Deal Or No Deal
Date/Time: Weekdays @ 4.15pm
Problem: Broken SP due to 28 day rule

Today's episode won't record due to the 28 day rule.

Edit: Checking TDL, the DOND SP is broken for the rest of this week.

[cwaring]

Just an FYI as it's probably not going to get changed :)

My router's packed in so I can't give the details I was going to, but although the Christmas ep of "Doctor Who" has correctly been picked-up by the existing SP, the corresponding "Confidential" show on BBC3 hasn't, so manual intervention will be required :(

[mjk]

Callsign: HALLMK
Channel Number: 150
Provider: Sky
Postcode: IV2
Programme Name: Spooks
Date/Time: Jan 3/4/5 @ 0000 and 0300
Problem: Hallmark website shows Spooks Season 1, EPG shows completely different progs. Not confined to these timeslots. Looks like the whole schedule around this time of night is wrong.

[cwaring]

Callsign: More4
Channel Number: 142
Provider: Virgin Media
Postcode: HG5
Programme Name: ER
Date/Time: Thurs @ 10pm from Jan 10, 2008
Problem: OAD is wrong (probably US) so a FROSP won't pick up the new season. However, the correct OAD is required as there are other season repeats on both More4 and C4.

[Diamond Mike]

Callsign: ITV1
Programme Name: Wire in the Blood
Date/Time: Jan 07 / 21:00
Problem: My existing season pass is not picking up the new series, so it looks the only thing to do is set up a new season pass

[sjp]

Callsign: More4
Channel Number: 142
Provider: Virgin Media
Postcode: HG5
Programme Name: ER
Date/Time: Thurs @ 10pm from Jan 10, 2008
Problem: OAD is wrong (probably US) so a FROSP won't pick up the new season. However, the correct OAD is required as there are other season repeats on both More4 and C4.

still not fixed and it's the same for the C4 data that arrived this morning - as Carl states, this OAD needs to be corrected due to the amount of repeats currently being broadcast across the C4 and More4 channels

yet another manual SP looms

[atari_addict]

Callsign: ITV1
Programme Name: Wire in the Blood
Date/Time: Jan 07 / 21:00
Problem: My existing season pass is not picking up the new series
Has this been fixed?

[kitschcamp]

Callsign: EUROSPORT
Programme Name: Rally - Dakar

Due to events in Mauritania, the Dakar has been cancelled, so the three weeks or so of scheduled stages are now no more :(

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64518

[Diamond Mike]

Callsign: ITV1
Programme Name: Wire in the Blood
Date/Time: Jan 07 / 21:00
Problem: My existing season pass is not picking up the new series

Has this been fixed?

As I have set up a new SP and cancelled the old one, I am unable to tell

[atari_addict]

As I have set up a new SP and cancelled the old one, I am unable to tell

Same here. Getting more and more disheartened by the poor reliability of the data :(

[Pete77]

Callsign: EUROSPORT
Programme Name: Rally - Dakar

Due to events in Mauritania, the Dakar has been cancelled, so the three weeks or so of scheduled stages are now no more :(

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64518

The Sky EPG has now been updated to show a program called Dakar Legends in the slots that would have featured the Dakar rally. This will be a series featuring the history of previous Dakar races. So my keyword Wishlist for "Dakar" would still have picked this up although an SP for Rally etc on 410 British Eurosport probably will not. Heaven only knows how long it will take for Tribune to pick up and then reflect this change in the Tivo EPG. However an SP for the Rally series on 410 British Eurosport should at present pick up and record these programs. As and when Tribune catch up you will need to set up a new SP for Dakar Legends or alternatively just set up a Wishlist for "Dakar".

Fortunately the cancellation came just in time for me not to resubscribe to Sky for a month at £16 and I can't see doing so just for the Dakar Legends program.

The cancellation of the race is still a crying shame though and in my view a complete over-reaction that is all too typical of the now litigation paranoid attitude to life in the 2000s that is seeing more and more activities being cancelled on spurious health and safety grounds. Despite the alleged health and safety issue I am sure the cancellation will actually cause far more damage to the mental health and also the wealth of most of the entered Dakar competitors.

[Damo]

Hi, I've just done a Browse By Channel on Five (analogue 37) and I don't seem to have any channel data beyond 5:35am on Saturday 12 January. All the entries past this time are just shown as 'Five'. I had my dial-up an hour ago and it says successful with programme data until Saturday 26 January. Am I alone or is this the same for everyone? :confused:

[Pete77]

Hi, I've just done a Browse By Channel on Five (analogue 37) and I don't seem to have any channel data beyond 5:35am on Saturday 12 January. All the entries past this time are just shown as 'Five'. I had my dial-up an hour ago and it says successful with programme data until Saturday 26 January.:confused:

You will get another week's data added either tomorrow or on Monday. The five analogue channels only have a maximum of 2 weeks data and that is only renewed with a further week's data once a week around Sunday. So by Saturday you indeed do only have a week's worth of data available on these five analogue channels.

[Damo]

Thanks Pete77, I'll see what happens over the next fews days. I've had my TiVo for around 5 years and it's always seemed to have at least 2 weeks worth of programme data for the analogue channels, although I've never investigated that closely.

[ad_jack]

Kill Bill Vol. 2 was labeled as Vol.1 on tivo tonight.

[simbeav]

This week's Dr Who on UK Drama (The Ark in Space) is not being picked up on a season pass set up for last week's (although the following 3 week's are).

[bradleyem]

I'm getting nothing but Generic data on Sky Sports HD 2 - HD1 is ok though.

Yes- I've taken the first steps towards losing my Tivo. I really don't want to though, but Hi Def is good.

[OzSat]

I'm getting nothing but Generic data on Sky Sports HD 2 - HD1 is ok though.

Yes- I've taken the first steps towards losing my Tivo. I really don't want to though, but Hi Def is good.Sports HD2 listings are fine here.

[bradleyem]

hmm. ok, may need to give TiVo a good kick then.

[Foxy]

Callsign: BBC4
Programme Name: 10 Things You Didnt Know About Tsunamis
Date/Time: Jan 13 / 21:00 (or NOT!)
Problem 1: Tivo does not see the episode at 21:00, thinking that the preceding "Soweto Strings" is 2.5 (rather than 1.5) Hrs long.
Problem 2: Tivo does not think that the repeats at 00:00 & 03:00 are episodes of a series, and won't allow a season pass.

bbc.co.uk & RT (paper & www) have the listing correct.

[Foxy]

Callsign: More4
Programme Name: True stories: The Kidnapping of Ingrid Betancourt
Date/Time: Jan 15 / 23:05 (& Jan 16 / 02:50)
Problem: Tivo does not see this as an episode of the True Stories series.

[JudyB]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Torchwood
Date/Time: 23 Jan 2008, 7:00 PM
Problem: Tivo picks this up as part of the Torchwood Season Pass, episode listings are also wrong.

The 7PM showing is an edited, sanitized for children, version of the "real" 9PM showings, so this needs to be identified with a different series ID.

Also, the 7PM showings are a repeat of the previous week's 9PM showing, so the episode titles listed at present are wrong.
16 Jan BBC2/9PM: Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang
23 Jan BBC2/7PM: Sleeper - should be "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang" (same as 16th).

[Pete77]

The 7PM showing is an edited, sanitized for children, version of the "real" 9PM showings, so this needs to be identified with a different series ID.

I have been trying to persuade Tribune and ITV that the Formula One Qualifying and Formula One Highlights programs should have a different program name and thus a different Tivo Season Pass from the actual Formula One Racing live race program for ages without success. And given the number of hours of qualifying and highlights Formula One programs in a year this is not a trivial problem.

So your problem sounds like a variant on my issue and I therefore wish you the very best of luck in attempting to persuade the BBC, Tivo Customer Services and/or Tribune of the error of their ways. Unfortunately a similar problem occurred with Dr Who Confidential where there was both a full version and an edited version half the length and the Dr Who Confidential Season Pass picked up both.

[OzSat]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Torchwood
Date/Time: 23 Jan 2008, 7:00 PM
Problem: Tivo picks this up as part of the Torchwood Season Pass, episode listings are also wrong.

The 7PM showing is an edited, sanitized for children, version of the "real" 9PM showings, so this needs to be identified with a different series ID.

Also, the 7PM showings are a repeat of the previous week's 9PM showing, so the episode titles listed at present are wrong.
16 Jan BBC2/9PM: Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang
23 Jan BBC2/7PM: Sleeper - should be "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang" (same as 16th).The 7pm episodes are as originally published by the BBC - they have not corrected on TiVo yet - or other online listings services.

[OzSat]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Torchwood
Date/Time: 23 Jan 2008, 7:00 PM
Problem: Tivo picks this up as part of the Torchwood Season Pass, episode listings are also wrong.

The 7PM showing is an edited, sanitized for children, version of the "real" 9PM showings, so this needs to be identified with a different series ID.

Also, the 7PM showings are a repeat of the previous week's 9PM showing, so the episode titles listed at present are wrong.
16 Jan BBC2/9PM: Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang
23 Jan BBC2/7PM: Sleeper - should be "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang" (same as 16th).The 7pm episodes are now corrected - and the 7pm editions have their own id - so TiVo viewers can select either or both early and late evening versions.

The existing SP will continue as the late version.

The changes will be seen from Wednesday's download.

[Pete77]

The 7pm episodes are now corrected - and the 7pm editions have their own id - so TiVo viewers can select either or both early and late evening versions.

The existing SP will continue as the late version.

The changes will be seen from Wednesday's download.

Hmmm that was easy and painless.

So why isn't it possible to have Formula One Racing on ITV1 split up in to Formula One Qualifying, Formula One Highlights and Formula One Racing (live race) series in the same convenient way? The current arrangement of many hours of programs all being under just the single Formula One Racing series id is extremely inconvenient. Especially if you have your SP set as Keep Until I Delete.

Having said that problems would still be caused by the tendency of ITV to now show early evening live races in South America on ITV2, ITV3 or ITV4 instead of ITV1.

[ColinYounger]

Can I second the separate TMSIDs for F1 Quali\Highlights\Race, please?

[OzSat]

This thread is getting a bit big an gets too much chat.

It is now closed and programme listing errors should now be reported in SPECIAL THREAD: Programme/Listing Errors (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=381398)