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Bill99
04-20-2006, 10:53 AM
Edited to add: "Sorry, didn't see that this was already posted" :confused:

Business rules!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060420/ap_on_hi_te/anti_ad_skipper;_ylt=Avl9kESORRmae74PVEoM12tI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDM TA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--


By MAY WONG, AP Technology Writer
Wed Apr 19, 9:51 PM ET

SAN JOSE, Calif. - In this era of easy ad skipping with TiVo-like Video recorders, could television viewers one day be forced to watch commercials with a system that prevents channel switching?

Yes, according to Royal Philips Electronics. A patent application with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office says researchers of the Netherland-based consumer electronics company have created a technology that could let broadcasters freeze a channel during a commercial, so viewers wouldn't be able to avoid it.

The pending patent, published on March 30, says the feature would be implemented on a program-by-program basis. Devices that could carry the technology would be a television or a set-top-box.

Philips acknowledged, however, that the anti-channel changing technology might not sit well with consumers and suggested in its patent filing that consumers be allowed to avoid the feature if they paid broadcasters a fee.

On Wednesday, company officials issued a statement that noted the technology also enables the opposite: allowing viewers to watch television without advertising. The intention was never to force viewers to watch ads against their will, the company said of the technology.

"We developed a system where the viewer can choose, at the beginning of a movie, to either watch the movie without ads, or watch the movie with ads," the company stated. "It is up to the viewer to take this decision, and up to the broadcaster to offer the various services."

The company also said it had no plans to use the technology in any of its products.

Philips wanted to provide the technology and seek the patent only as part of the broader developments within the industry, Philips spokesman Andre Manning said.

mphare
04-20-2006, 05:11 PM
Philips acknowledged, however, that the anti-channel changing technology might not sit well with consumers and suggested in its patent filing that consumers be allowed to avoid the feature if they paid broadcasters a fee.

So, aside from FFWD thru commercials, does this mean I wouldn't be able to tune away from a show during commercials either?

That would, indeed, not sit well with me. I should not have to make payola to broadcasters so I can switch my channel at any time for any reason.

ebonovic
04-20-2006, 05:44 PM
You will then find a device that won't sell many units...

Btw... you "tuner" is locked to this channel for the next 4 hours.... even if the show "stinks"

rhuntington3
04-20-2006, 05:48 PM
Its an application for a patent. That in no way means that this technology will be put to use by Tivo. And even if its not, as Earl said, no one will want to but it.

Dkerr24
04-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Why on earth would you patent something that noone would use?

tigersfanjj
04-20-2006, 11:23 PM
I bet it would probably set a record for the least amount of time a product had been released before a class-action lawsuit was brought against the company. :eek:

mphare
04-21-2006, 12:02 AM
I'm waiting for some spin on the DMA to require this be installed on all tuners sold in the US.

lajohn27
04-21-2006, 07:57 AM
IMHO this is a moronic thing to patent.

But hey.. what the heck do I know?

yaddayaddayadda
04-21-2006, 08:47 AM
Well I think it's being spun as the negative (i.e. not being able to change the channel during a commercial). Add to that, stupid reporting.

I think what Philips is trying to patent is this: Say Lost is getting ready to come on - You can pay $2.50 to watch it live w/o commercials, or nothing to watch it with commercials. People already pay $2.00 to watch it the next day on a 2" ipod screen, why isn't this a logical progression?

If you choose to watch it with commericals, they'll attempt to 'make' you watch them.

ping
04-21-2006, 09:46 AM
Why on earth would you patent something that noone would use?

There are lots of reasons. Chief among them probably is if a company offers some sort of incentive for employees to file patents, and if that company doesn't have processes in place to determine the IP that actually has value.

Jotas
04-21-2006, 09:46 AM
In the article there was some mention about paying a fee to avoid this. If the local broadcasters are using OTA FCC regulated frequencies wouldn't that be a no no? I thought the reason TV viewing was free and was also censored was because it was on public airwaves owned by the tax payers?

ebonovic
04-21-2006, 10:02 AM
Again....

You think people are Loyal to TiVo? And willing to Change Carriers for it?

Imagine how fast people will leave a carry if they force a product on them like this....

Besides... as resource full as the "internet" is.... the hacks to turn that off will be more popular then hacks to get free tv.

newsposter
04-21-2006, 10:38 AM
we can get free tv? link :)