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mixotivo
03-15-2006, 02:36 PM
Mark this day March 15th 2006 the death of the Tivo lifetime service plan will go down in history as the beginneing of the and for Tivo!!

Monthly Fees for Cable, HD, cable box, etc ... now ....

Et Tu Tivo?


:cool:
MikeMar
03-15-2006, 02:38 PM
Doesn't affect me :) I already have a lifetime and will be doing all my future boxes at multi discount. So I have no complaints.
moonscape
03-15-2006, 02:40 PM
Doesn't affect me :) I already have a lifetime and will be doing all my future boxes at multi discount. So I have no complaints.

is it certain S3 boxes will be available at multi-discount w/ S2s?
Malibyte
03-15-2006, 02:41 PM
Et tu, Brutus?

Hmmm....death of TiVo lifetime, 2050th anniversary of Julius Caesar's demise. I'm sure there's some sort of connection here. :rolleyes:
rainwater
03-15-2006, 02:47 PM
Mark this day March 15th 2006 the death of the Tivo lifetime service plan will go down in history as the beginneing of the and for Tivo!!

Monthly Fees for Cable, HD, cable box, etc ... now ....

Et Tu Tivo?


:cool:

Don't lifetimes account for a very small portion of TiVo's subscribers? I'm not sure how that could cause the end of TiVo.
MikeMar
03-15-2006, 02:50 PM
is it certain S3 boxes will be available at multi-discount w/ S2s?

Don't know, but personally I won't be getting a S3 for a long long time.
ZeoTiVo
03-15-2006, 02:50 PM
A brave man ides but once, TiVo dies a thousand deaths :rolleyes:
That Don Guy
03-15-2006, 02:50 PM
Hmmm....death of TiVo lifetime, 2050th anniversary of Julius Caesar's demise.
Actually, it's only the 2049th, unless you are using Oracle to figure it out.
The year "44 BC" is equivalent to "-43 AD"; the year before 1 AD (or 1 CE, for the politically correct types) is 1 BCE. Neither the Julian nor Gregorian calendars have a year "zero". However, for some strange reason, Oracle's "julian date counter" counts 367 days from December 31, -1 to January 1, +1, even though all dates between those two days are considered invalid by Oracle.

Then again, since pretty much every Gregorian calendar skipped 10 days somewhere along the way (plus the additional days added for leap years in the Julian but not the Gregorian calendars), the actual anniversary is earlier in March. (I think it's March 2 at the moment, but I am not entirely sure.)

-- Don
jmoak
03-15-2006, 02:57 PM
Don't lifetimes account for a very small portion of TiVo's subscribers? I'm not sure how that could cause the end of TiVo.Since when have facts and logic gotten in the way of a good "Tivo Is Dead!" 1st post?
;)
dgh
03-15-2006, 03:13 PM
Don't lifetimes account for a very small portion of TiVo's subscribers? I'm not sure how that could cause the end of TiVo.

The 14 TiVos that I know of personally are all lifetimed, but then everyone I know owns a calculator so maybe that skews the results ;)
Malibyte
03-15-2006, 03:15 PM
Actually, it's only the 2049th, unless you are using Oracle to figure it out.
The year "44 BC" is equivalent to "-43 AD"; the year before 1 AD (or 1 CE, for the politically correct types) is 1 BCE. Neither the Julian nor Gregorian calendars have a year "zero". However, for some strange reason, Oracle's "julian date counter" counts 367 days from December 31, -1 to January 1, +1, even though all dates between those two days are considered invalid by Oracle.

Then again, since pretty much every Gregorian calendar skipped 10 days somewhere along the way (plus the additional days added for leap years in the Julian but not the Gregorian calendars), the actual anniversary is earlier in March. (I think it's March 2 at the moment, but I am not entirely sure.)

-- Don


LOL!!

I stand corrected. You're definitely a detail guy. Engineer? Accountant?
rainwater
03-15-2006, 03:17 PM
The 14 TiVos that I know of personally are all lifetimed, but then everyone I know owns a calculator so maybe that skews the results ;)

Yes, hardcore TiVo users (especially those that use this forum) represent a higher percentage of lifetime users. But I am willing to bet that the overall percentage of lifetime users is much less than those paying monthly.
Turtleboy
03-15-2006, 03:18 PM
Really? I hadn't heard this. I'm surprised there are no threads on it.
marrone
03-15-2006, 03:23 PM
I really should have done the lifetime option when I could have for DirecTV a couple years back. I'm kicking myself now. It would be on the entire account!

-Mike
ChuckyBox
03-15-2006, 03:37 PM
Yes, hardcore TiVo users (especially those that use this forum) represent a higher percentage of lifetime users. But I am willing to bet that the overall percentage of lifetime users is much less than those paying monthly.
TiVo publishes this number in its 10-Q/K every quarter. Currently, about 51% of subs pay the recurring (monthly) fee, and about 49% are lifetime. This mix was about 70% lifetime, 30% monthly a couple years ago, but has been moving toward more monthly subs for a while.

My guess (and it is a guess) is that about 70% to 80% take monthly to start, and then some fraction of those convert to lifetime after they've used TiVo for a few months. I'll come up with some actual numbers once the 10-K is out.
gastrof
03-15-2006, 03:40 PM
Mark this day March 15th 2006 the death of the Tivo lifetime service plan will go down in history as the beginneing of the and for Tivo!!...

Is "and" a noun? :p
gastrof
03-15-2006, 03:44 PM
Doesn't affect me :) I already have a lifetime and will be doing all my future boxes at multi discount. So I have no complaints.

You might in three years.

Today the news says the latest "official" cutoff date for analog TV is February of '09.

The tuner in your existing TiVo won't work after that. Can we be sure it'll "work and play well" with digital tuners? (Of any kind?)
pdhenry
03-15-2006, 03:47 PM
You might in three years.

Today the news says the latest "official" cutoff date for analog TV is February of '09.

The tuner in your existing TiVo won't work after that. Can we be sure it'll "work and play well" with digital tuners? (Of any kind?)Digital cable will still have analog outputs. I'll bet you a quarter.
dgh
03-15-2006, 03:51 PM
You might in three years.

Today the news says the latest "official" cutoff date for analog TV is February of '09.

The tuner in your existing TiVo won't work after that. Can we be sure it'll "work and play well" with digital tuners? (Of any kind?)

Well it was once last year, and it was once this year too. ;) But then even if it does finally happen in 2009, it may not effect that many people. My TiVo has been working fine with my digital tuner since 2000. (Dish Network.)

But even if it does, it sounds to me like the world of the future is going to have a lot of Series 1s that are in people's homes in order to qualify for the multi unit discount. They'll call in, display their sad TiVo faces on live TV, and save someone 6 bucks a month ;)
ZeoTiVo
03-15-2006, 05:41 PM
The tuner in your existing TiVo won't work after that. Can we be sure it'll "work and play well" with digital tuners? (Of any kind?)

you know I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but you read these boards fairly regularly and you know this is not true. Or do you also say that all analog TVs will no longer work after this date :rolleyes: Do you really just want to be seen as some one spreading a bunch of useless FUD around to no ones benefit.