CSI: Pirates of the Third Reich (02/09/2006) [Text View]

murgatroyd

02-10-2006, 02:38 AM

Isn't it amazing what the makeup people do on these shows? :D

We have a household rule here: No CSI during dinner.

Love the Lady Heather episodes. Definitely my favorite CSI episodes of all time.

Jan

cheerdude

02-10-2006, 05:55 AM

Haven't seen it yet ... but this is the 3rd Lady Heather ep, right?

If so - has LH and Grissom kissed and made up?

RoundBoy

02-10-2006, 06:32 AM

Haven't seen it yet ... but this is the 3rd Lady Heather ep, right?

If so - has LH and Grissom spanked and tied up?

Fixed that for you...

speedcouch

02-10-2006, 08:51 AM

We seem to be moving back into the heavy gore again. ;)

You're not kidding there! I kept my eyes closed through so much of this episode, I was in real danger of falling asleep. :eek:

Wonder if we'll find out if Grissom ever reports Lady Heather's "punishment" of the killer? I think his attraction to her may push him towards the dark side soon. For me, that would make this show a bit more interesting. I'm really sick of the gratuitous gore every week.

Cheryl

Jonathan_S

02-10-2006, 09:08 AM

:down: Extra Gore

:up::up: Lady Heather

Hmm, and we never did find out if the daughter had the baby or not.

I did like the end with the bad guy being punished. (Wouldn't like it if it happened in real life; but liked it in the show).

I wonder what happened to the other "test subjects". The twins were number 21, (or possibly only one of them was 21, I didn't get a good look at the other shoulder) but we'd only seen victims of four experiments.

stacy143

02-10-2006, 10:37 AM

"Hmm, and we never did find out if the daughter had the baby or not."

When Grissom is sitting at the desk looking through the killers book of notes, it shows Zoe's info including that she gave birth on Aug. 3rd.

GDG76

02-10-2006, 10:53 AM

I wonder what happened to the other "test subjects". The twins were number 21, (or possibly only one of them was 21, I didn't get a good look at the other shoulder) but we'd only seen victims of four experiments.

They said there was the DNA of at least 12 people in that pile of ashes. Between that and the four, it's close to 21. I imagine that all of them are dead.

I thought for sure they would keep this as an ongoing thing with the guy not found and maybe solve it in the season finale but I was glad they wrapped it up in a week.

Ladd Morse

02-10-2006, 11:03 AM

"When Grissom is sitting at the desk looking through the killers book of notes, it shows Zoe's info including that she gave birth on Aug. 3rd.I went back to check that scene and the notes say:
"Birth mother of infant born August 3, 2005?"

I find the question mark at the end of that statment interesting.

BeanMeScot

02-10-2006, 11:21 AM

I think finding the kid will be an ongoing story line.

More Lady Heather :up:

dcheesi

02-10-2006, 12:40 PM

Wonder if we'll find out if Grissom ever reports Lady Heather's "punishment" of the killer? I think those whip marks (esp. to the face) will be kinda hard to hide...

I don't watch gore-fest movies, but: I wonder if this was inspired by Hostel or its ilk?

jcondon

02-10-2006, 12:44 PM

Wonder if we'll find out if Grissom ever reports Lady Heather's "punishment" of the killer?

Don't think he has much of a choice. Those open wounds aren't going to heal too soon.

I doubt we will even hear more of this anyway.

If this was RL she has money, the guy is a serial killer who kill her daughter. I doubt the DA would push to hard to prosecute her. Probably plead it way down pay a fine.

BeanMeScot

02-10-2006, 12:47 PM

If this was RL she has money, the guy is a serial killer who kill her daughter. I doubt the DA would pash to hard to prosecute her. Probably plead it way down pay a fine.

That's my thought. She has plenty of money to get a decent attorney. She will never spend a day behind bars for what she did.

jcondon

02-10-2006, 12:52 PM

That's my thought. She has plenty of money to get a decent attorney. She will never spend a day behind bars for what she did.

If it ever went to trial the DA or judge might even be a client of her's. I am sure she has dirt on tons of important people.

I think this aspect of the story is over. Maybe more about her potential grand kid.

Did anyone understand her comment to Gil about he gave up his rights to give her advice.

Maybe he did visit her dungeon as a client?

Or was she referring to something else?

Lord_Skywalker

02-10-2006, 01:16 PM

If it ever went to trial the DA or judge might even be a client of her's. I am sure she has dirt on tons of important people.

I think this aspect of the story is over. Maybe more about her potential grand kid.

Did anyone understand her comment to Gil about he gave up his rights to give her advice.

Maybe he did visit her dungeon as a client?

Or was she referring to something else?
She was referring to the trust that was broken between them when Grissom had to start treating her as a suspect after finding she used an insulin injector. The killer in that previous episode used an insulin injector to either incapacitate or kill someone.

Rob Helmerichs

02-10-2006, 01:34 PM

Lady Heather should send the serial killer a bill for her services... :D

jcondon

02-10-2006, 04:14 PM

So since he was doing his job and following the evidence his advice is invalid?

Weird logic (by the show's writers)

I thought they got past all that and he and her had a friend ship. And he was interested in her 'work'.

She was referring to the trust that was broken between them when Grissom had to start treating her as a suspect after finding she used an insulin injector. The killer in that previous episode used an insulin injector to either incapacitate or kill someone.

MarkofT

02-10-2006, 04:38 PM

The trust formed in a relationship that Lady Heather would have is stronger then the trust in most other relationships. When it breaks, it hurts more and the hurt blinds logic.

philw1776

02-10-2006, 05:44 PM

So, am I to gather that if I really piss off and annoy that hottie Lady Heather, she'll have sex with me?

{Do not show this post to wife}

murgatroyd

02-11-2006, 01:14 AM

Lady Heather should send the serial killer a bill for her services... :D

Hey! I paid for an hour!

Jan

Vito the TiVo

02-11-2006, 03:24 AM

I wish they would have wrapped up the deal with the killer a little firmer. I mean he went to Germany and then went crazy and started to do Nazi experiments with old Nazi era equipment? That seems kinda thin. He just decided to do it cause he was crazy? It just felt like the ep ended a little abruptly, like they had too much story for their 42 mins.

Jesda

02-11-2006, 10:24 AM

I LOVE when CSI is spooky. The last episode that was half decent (before this) was with the cult wandering in the desert.

heyitscory

02-11-2006, 04:49 PM

What did Gil do that offended Heather so? "You've given up the right to give me advice." she said or something like that.

cheerdude

02-11-2006, 06:29 PM

Cory - In the 2nd Lady Heather episode (Lady Heather's Box), the killer had used a hyperdermic syringe to force air in the victim's blood stream. Lady Heather is diabetic and (this is the part I don't remember), Grissom felt that she had a part in this; which she didn't.

I would of ended the Reich episode a bit differently....

Grissom "Heather... STOP!"
Lady Heather: "Gil - I have to do this my way!"
G: "I understand... (grabs the whip) but you are doing it all wrong"
(Struggle for control of the whip... finally Gil takes it... and after a long look into LH's eyes)
G: "You see... you need to use the full range of your arm, not just your wrist."
(Screen goes to black and the Executive Producer credits flash up at the sound of a whip crack)

:D

philw1776

02-11-2006, 06:42 PM

I would of ended the Reich episode a bit differently....

Grissom "Heather... STOP!"
Lady Heather: "Gil - I have to do this my way!"
G: "I understand... (grabs the whip) but you are doing it all wrong"
(Struggle for control of the whip... finally Gil takes it... and after a long look into LH's eyes)
G: "You see... you need to use the full range of your arm, not just your wrist."
(Screen goes to black and the Executive Producer credits flash up at the sound of a whip crack)

:D

If you wrote for TV, I'd watch more of it, you sick fraker.

MarkofT

02-12-2006, 02:38 PM

digdug

02-14-2006, 09:49 AM

Cool episode even if a bit thin in the overall plot. The whole evil twin thing was left grossly unexplored and unexplained. I would have liked for them to flesh this out a bit more. With a flesh eating virus consuming her insides, I doubt the girl would have had the strength or presence of mind to escape in the way she did.

This ep seemed a bit of a vehicle to further the Lady Heather and Gil sub-plot.

The darker CSI eps are always the most thought / bile provoking.

DLiquid

02-14-2006, 12:52 PM

Gotta love the Jerry Stahl (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821466/) episodes.

newsposter

02-14-2006, 01:53 PM

She was referring to the trust that was broken between them when Grissom had to start treating her as a suspect after finding she used an insulin injector. The killer in that previous episode used an insulin injector to either incapacitate or kill someone.

2 shows this week with insulin injectors being used by suspects..do i detect a pattern?

MarkofT

02-14-2006, 04:19 PM

The insulin injector wasn't this week on CSI. It was a couple seasons ago in the Episode "Lady Heather's Box".

doom1701

02-15-2006, 08:15 AM

I was underwhelmed. Lady Heather seemed poorly used--she has been in previous episodes to show a side of Grissom we never see. This time whe was just the raging mother of a dead girl. Other than a couple of references to their past, there was no real interaction.

This will most likely be the last we see of Lady Heather--I don't see attempted murder being pleaded out to a fine or probation. She's going to jail, even if she has pictures of the judge with the prosecutor (and if she had that, her reputation in her "industry" would be so tarnished that she wouldn't carry any weight in future episodes anyway). That kind of bums me out; any chance we have to get into the psyche of the CSI crew--something that the other CSI shows never seem to touch--is worth it.

mclark11

02-15-2006, 01:34 PM

Was the dead girl pretty in pink (molly ringwald)?

lew

02-15-2006, 04:19 PM

No jury, at least in the world of TV, would convict her after seeing pictures of what was done to the victims.

In real life I'd expect a plea bargain down to assault in TV I'd expect an acquittal

This will most likely be the last we see of Lady Heather--I don't see attempted murder being pleaded out to a fine or probation. She's going to jail, even if she has pictures of the judge with the prosecutor (and if she had that, her reputation in her "industry" would be so tarnished that she wouldn't carry any weight in future episodes anyway). That kind of bums me out; any chance we have to get into the psyche of the CSI crew--something that the other CSI shows never seem to touch--is worth it.