Desperate Housewives 1/8 "One More Kiss" SPOILERS

[Neenahboy]

I really liked this episode, though I do think Lynette blew the whole kiss thing WAY out of proportion. It was just a joke, and everyone at the party saw it as such.

I hope this wasn't the extent of Andrew's blackmail. If so, that was quite weak on the part of the writers.

I still can't get into the absolutely ridiculous Applewhite storyline.

Thoughts?

[RickStrobel]

I hope this wasn't the extent of Andrew's blackmail. If so, that was quite weak on the part of the writers.I was glad to see Steve (or whatever his name is) put the little brat in his place. Now it's time for Bree to send him off to camp. If anyone can be blackmailed it's Andrew.

Anyone remember his hit-and-run of Mama Solice? She doesn't even have to tell the police, just Carlos :D

[David Ortiz]

"I'm like ... catnip."

LOL

[Jeeters]

I really liked this episode, though I do think Lynette blew the whole kiss thing WAY out of proportion. It was just a joke, and everyone at the party saw it as such.Well, her husband has hinted before (to his visiting father) that he's cheated on her. If she knew this info, she'd have a good reason. And it *was* a kiss from Eva Langoria after all. :)

[madscientist]

Lynette definitely doesn't know about the cheating.

[b5ver]

My enjoyment of this show is waning, sadly, since there is no more real mystery...unless I'm missing something.

But I have to say that the funniest parts of the show and it's writing is the subtle humor, not the laugh out loud bits (i.e. Carlos looking down while Lynette sympathetically strokes his shoulder, before his "proposition".)

[dtle]

Lynette definitely doesn't know about the cheating.

Who did Tom (Lynette's husband) cheated with? I don't remember...

[MerlinMacuser]

This show is so far off their original potential that only an all nude, live episode has a chance of saving it. Maybe the ladies could decide to go to the beach, find out it is clothing optional then accidently lock their keys in the car and have to hitch hike back to town in the buff...yes, I think that might work.

[wendiness1]

I'm confused about why the Applewhite's were still standing on their porch while the police were crawling all over the place. Wouldn't ownership of the vehicle have been determined immediately and thrown suspicion their way? At the very least, woudln't the Applewhite's have stepped down from their perch and mingled so as to defer suspicion?

[Meathead]

I'm confused about why the Applewhite's were still standing on their porch while the police were crawling all over the place. Wouldn't ownership of the vehicle have been determined immediately and thrown suspicion their way? At the very least, woudln't the Applewhite's have stepped down from their perch and mingled so as to defer suspicion?

They put the body in the guy's own car. That was not their car.

[DancnDude]

They put the body in the guy's own car. That was not their car.
I guess I wasn't the only person that thought that. Thanks for clearing that up.

But when the Wysteria CSI comes in, they should have no problem finding fingerprints all over the body and car from the Applewhites. And then getting a warrent they'll find the broken (or repaired) stair and blood evidence....not to mention Caleb being held hostage. Who am I kidding, they'll get away with it. :rolleyes:

[Meathead]

But when the Wysteria CSI comes in, they should have no problem finding fingerprints all over the body and car from the Applewhites. And then getting a warrent they'll find the broken (or repaired) stair and blood evidence....not to mention Caleb being held hostage. Who am I kidding, they'll get away with it. :rolleyes:

Sounds like it is time for an ABC-CBS crossover. Bring in the guys from CSI to analyze everything. In one episode they should be able to solve it all, including:


Andrew killed Carlos' mother
George killed Rex
Paul killed Mrs. Huber
Paul & Mary Alice killed Zach's real mother
Bree was present when George killed himself
Mike is Zach's dad
Tom had multiple affairs while travelling (and likely killed someone)
Carlos was framed & sent to prison (where he likely killed someone)
Gabby's baby was actually conceived by Carlos & a turkey baster
Caleb's life was the basis for "The Green Mile"

[madscientist]

We don't know who Tom cheated with. It happened before the series started. We only know about it because he confessed it to his philandering father last season. You may recall Lynette, referring to his father, promised (with a scary serious face) to completely ruin Tom if he ever cheated on her.

[cmontyburns]

They never said explicity that Tom cheated, as I recall, only hinted at it. And I think they've totally dropped that minor point and are hoping that no one ever remembers it.

I'm glad they're moving the Applewhite story along at last, even if it has to be this way. Anyone not guess that the Michael Ironside character was going to fall through the stairs after Betty commented earlier in the ep that the rotten wood was going to kill one of them? And I agree that handling of the body was really clumsy. "Wait, the keys fell in there!" Riiiiiight. That happens all the time. And yes, they would have left trace evidence all over the car. And didn't they load the body in broad daylight, in front of their house?

Meanwhile, we are busy throwing character out the window for the sake of story. Wasn't it just an ep or two ago that Gaby was insanely jealous of a nun who was paying attention to Carlos? And now she wants him to go have an affair? If she's looking for something to lord over him to even the score, uh, how about the fact that he's a convicted felon? Meanwhile, Carlos, who in the nun episodes was suddenly totally devout, now appears to be seriously considering adultery -- and with another married person, no less! And does anyone actually believe that, even if you buy that, he'd really think Lynette was into it? I kind of liked the "kiss" story up until those points; it was nice to have some of the characters interacting, and a relief to have a Lynette plotline that had nothing to do with her office or her kids. But then it went off the rails, throwing character consistency out for the sake of a story that is disposable anyway.

If only James Denton weren't bringing in the ladies, they could write him out. His character serves no purpose anymore.

[dswallow]

Gaby's problem is that she needs to be in control of it; the affair is OK since she's permitting it but it wouldn't be if Carlos did it on his own.

[Bananfish]

We don't know who Tom cheated with. It happened before the series started. We only know about it because he confessed it to his philandering father last season. You may recall Lynette, referring to his father, promised (with a scary serious face) to completely ruin Tom if he ever cheated on her.

My recollection of the conversation between Tom and his father was that it could well have been *anything* that Tom did, and was not necessarily cheating. He said something along the lines of "well, there is one thing I did that I can never let Lynette know." Based on the fact that their prior conversation dealt with cheating, one might have been led to believe he was referring to a cheating incident, but really it could be anything.

To talk about Tom cheating as if it is an established fact is just wrong.

[The Flush]

I'm glad they're moving the Applewhite story along at last, even if it has to be this way. Anyone not guess that the Michael Ironside character was going to fall through the stairs after Betty commented earlier in the ep that the rotten wood was going to kill one of them? And I agree that handling of the body was really clumsy. "Wait, the keys fell in there!" Riiiiiight. That happens all the time. And yes, they would have left trace evidence all over the car. And didn't they load the body in broad daylight, in front of their house?



They specifically said that they would wait until after dark to get rid of the body.

[Bananfish]

It's true that this year is not nearly as fun as last year, but I honestly don't think the writing this year is any better or worse than last year. I just think it's more fun to get to know characters like these than to actually know them.

For instance, "oh my God, is Gabi really that slutty and shallow?" and "oh my God, does Bree really have something stuck that far up her ass?" have been answered. We know the answer is yes. We're not as surprised as we used to be, so it's not as fun.

[Bananfish]

I really liked this episode, though I do think Lynette blew the whole kiss thing WAY out of proportion. It was just a joke, and everyone at the party saw it as such.

When I was dating my now wife about 8 years ago in grad school, a giant group of us went out to a bar after finals. A good friend of mine planted a kiss on my now wife in very much the way Gabi did to Tom - it was clearly a joke, and a very funny one that everyone, including myself, laughed at.

My reaction was almost exactly the same as Lynette's. (I can't believe I'm identifying with Lynette, who I despise!) I knew it was a joke. I still liked my friend very much. I still loved my now wife. But it bugged me a little.

Unfortunately, my friend didn't have a girlfriend or wife, so I didn't get to make out with his woman for 30 seconds as redemption/revenge. Yet. :)

[balboa dave]

I really liked this episode, though I do think Lynette blew the whole kiss thing WAY out of proportion. It was just a joke, and everyone at the party saw it as such.After their adventures with the babysitter (nanny), it was hardly surprising or out of character.

[ToddAtl]

I actually thought this episode was the best of the season so far. It managed to keep my attention for the whole hour for the first time in a long while.

[dswallow]

I actually thought this episode was the best of the season so far.
Not exactly a glowing recommendation, considering what the rest of the season was like. :D

[madscientist]

Well, maybe I'm misremembering but I thought it was more explicitly an affair rather than just something Tom could never tell Lynette. I guess we'd need someone to dig out the transcript... Anyway, given the context and surrounding conversations I'm pretty confident it was an affair. It could have been before they were married, maybe, I don't know. Perhaps, as you say, it's not an established fact, but I'm quite content to call it "all but established fact", at least.

Re: Gaby and the nun. I can (theoretically) see a difference to Gaby between Carlos picking up some stranger who he'll never see again, and getting involved with the nun who was clearly going to change Carlos forever and drive him away from Gaby at the same time. Not even close to the same thing. However, it's obvious from the way she reacted to Lynette's kiss that she either would be more bothered by this than she thought, or she never considered that Carlos would chase after one of her friends (not that any of them would agree but...)

[cwoody222]

I also thought this was the best episode this season. By far. And not just for the Andrew-boy kissing scenes :)

I loved the early scenes in the kitchen where Bree was *just a little* drunk.



Recent interviews with Marc Cherry tells everyone to look back at past episodes to see Bree always reaching for the wine as a precursor to her upcoming DUI / alcohol storylines. It's true, I've always noticed she likes her merlot ;)

Bree's great... can't wait to see her all liquored up!

[PJO1966]

I liked this episode more than most this season as well, although the Applewhite story does nothing for me. As soon as she commented on the stairs being in bad shape I knew someone was going through them before the end of the episode.

The bowling alley they went to is where I do my Monday night bowling league. :D

[loubob57]

I guess I wasn't the only person that thought that. Thanks for clearing that up.
I had that same thought for a minute or two, why aren't the police asking the Applewhites why there is a body in their car? Then I realized it was the guy's own car they put him in. But it should still come back to them in a roundabout way.

Edie knows the guy was parked there looking at the Applewhite house, so the police interview her and then ask the Applewhites what they know about it. Maybe that's why Mrs. Applewhite said she is now nervous after seeing the women talking to each other.

[jlb]

I thought it was a good ep too. However, I most liked the teaser for next week:

"Hey guys, get a look at these!"

[mrpantstm]

very meh about this show. Whole kiss thing, so didn't care. Whole guy locked in the basement, don't care either. Andrew and Lynette, makes me sad.

I agree, the extent of the blackmail was really weak.

So, yeah I'm pretty much done.

[pmyers]

...The bowling alley they went to is where I do my Monday night bowling league. :D

Do you really have to score yourself? I commented to my wife that I didn't think there was a bowling alley left in the US that you still had to do your own scoring.

[dswallow]

Do you really have to score yourself? I commented to my wife that I didn't think there was a bowling alley left in the US that you still had to do your own scoring.
Most places still let you do your own scoring if you want to.

[Steveknj]

If only James Denton weren't bringing in the ladies, they could write him out. His character serves no purpose anymore.

If they put Mike and Susan back together (which they started hinting at for awhile), I'll scream. What is this with certain TV characters where they think people enjoy this on again off again thing. In shows I watch(ed), we had Ross and Rachel, we have Abby and Luka (this one is REALLY p*ssing me off as well), and Susan and Mike (who have broken up at least 2x I think). Maybe Paul will kill Mike too :)

[5thcrewman]

Has Carlos always been left-handed? Seeing him putt made me wonder.

[PJO1966]

Do you really have to score yourself? I commented to my wife that I didn't think there was a bowling alley left in the US that you still had to do your own scoring.


I found that odd too. They just updated this bowling alley and everything is state of the art. As Doug said, they could have chosen to do that, but who chooses to tally scores manually anymore? Unless they were doing it just to show the kids how it was done "back in the day".

[pmyers]

I found that odd too. They just updated this bowling alley and everything is state of the art. As Doug said, they could have chosen to do that, but who chooses to tally scores manually anymore? Unless they were doing it just to show the kids how it was done "back in the day".

well of course they did it so that there could be a scorecard that could be thrown away and then found by Paul...... ;)

[MitchO]

I was saying the same thing to my wife during that scene. We used electronic scorers back when I went as a teenager, and that's coming up on 20 years or so ago. Ugh.

Also, it makes no sense for him to be the one to take the paper home and (barely) crumple it up in his trash.

[PJO1966]

well of course they did it so that there could be a scorecard that could be thrown away and then found by Paul...... ;)


Ah... a valid point. What else would have all their names on it? You are a wise man.

[dswallow]

well of course they did it so that there could be a scorecard that could be thrown away and then found by Paul...... ;)
The bowling alley can always print off the scores anyway with the automated systems.

[Bananfish]

Well, maybe I'm misremembering but I thought it was more explicitly an affair rather than just something Tom could never tell Lynette. I guess we'd need someone to dig out the transcript... Anyway, given the context and surrounding conversations I'm pretty confident it was an affair. It could have been before they were married, maybe, I don't know. Perhaps, as you say, it's not an established fact, but I'm quite content to call it "all but established fact", at least.

OK, you made me curious, so I looked up the transcript of Episode 13 (at http://desperatehousewives.ahaava.com/0113.htm). Here's the relevant portion:

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Tom: "Okay, get it off your chest."
Lynette: "Well, you knew your father was having an affair, and it didn’t seem to bother you that much. And that worries me, because if you can find it in you to condone something like that, then what’s gonna happen when you’ve been on the road for forty years?"
Tom: "Lynette, I’m not my father!"
Lynette: "I know, of course. You’re not your father."
She kisses him again. He opens his magazine.

Lynette: "And just so we’re absolutely clear, I am definitely not your mother, because if you ever betray me, I will leave you. I will take the kids, and I will walk out that door, and you will never see any of us again."
She exhales loudly.
Lynette: "Glad to get that off my chest. Thank you."
She kisses him again.
Lynette: "I love you!"
She rolls over, missing the worried look on Tom’s face.


Later that night, Rodney comes down the stairs and sees Tom sitting at the kitchen table.

Grandpa Scavo: "Couldn’t sleep, huh?"
Tom: "No."
Grandpa Scavo: "Me either. I’m so sorry about the ruckus I caused."
Tom: "That’s okay, I’m not, uh, upset about that."
Grandpa Scavo: "No?"
Tom: "No."
Grandpa Scavo: "What’s wrong?"
Tom: "There’s something that Lynette doesn’t know about, dad. Something that I did, and I don’t know what’s going to happen if she ever finds out."

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It's certainly true that the last line in the context of the episode is meant to make you think "oh my God, Tom had an affair." But to me, the way this is written stinks to high heaven of faking left and going right. "Something that I did" could be anything.

And I actually feel fairly confident that the "something that I did" refers to Tom's hiring of Annabel, the ex who had begged Tom to marry her. She makes her appearance seven episodes later, when it's revealed that Tom hired her "going on 3 months now." How about this line from Episode 20 to tie it all together:

Annabel: "Ah, afraid to tell the wife you're working with the old girlfriend, huh? I guess that makes me your dirty little secret."

(I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the producers threw away earlier scenes (i.e., between episodes 13 and 20) that revealed what Tom meant by his comment to his dad, perhaps because they decided it worked better if the audience discovered Annabel at the same time as Lynette. Or perhaps they moved Tom's dad story line around to accommodate Ryan O'Neal's schedule.)

[murgatroyd]

Sounds like it is time for an ABC-CBS crossover. Bring in the guys from CSI to analyze everything.

And if Rex were still around, we could refer him to Lady Heather. ;)

Jan

[sushikitten]

Zack needs to die. I hate everything about his character and the storyline. Even more than the Applewhites. And when did we ever know/learn that Susan's ex (who's now with Edie) is a lawyer? I had no clue and was like wha? huh? lawyer? Maybe my memory just sucks.

I'm this close to cancelling my SP because of all the stupidity, but then you still get some great scenes and I end up being glad I watched.

[KRS]

I was hoping that the old lady stuck behind Lynette and Bree's cars was going to ram Lynette. And then I was hoping that Lynette's Maxima's airbags would deploy and snap her neck.

I don't like the Applewhites, but Lynette is the most annoying on the show. OK, so the kiss went on a bit too long, get over it. And then when her husband was being good natured about it in bed and joking around, she "playfully" calls him an idiot? I thought his retort should have been along the lines of "Well, only an idiot would have married a b!tch like you!"

[alpacaboy]

I liked when Bree retained Carl as a lawyer. "My son is trying to blackmail me and I want you to stop the little S.O.B."

Is it just me, but does the term "S.O.B." have considerably less insult-factor when a mother is referring to her son?