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RegBarc
01-06-2006, 09:09 PM
I was really surprised. Right before I started it, I saw it is actually slated as a "quirky drama," and not a comedy. That disappointed me a little, but I watched and I am thusfar very impressed. Quinn is great, and so is the supporting cast. The Jesus idea I was wary about at first, but it actually seems to be worked in nicely.

dswallow
01-06-2006, 10:02 PM
I'd say the first 40 minutes I was worried it was gonna bomb, but boy did the pace pick up. I'm loving all the little quirky relationships and am finding I already was rooting for different characters to get what they wanted. I like this show. I'd almost say these 2 hours in total are better than the entire second season so far of Desperate Housewives.

RegBarc
01-06-2006, 10:08 PM
I'd almost say these 2 hours in total are better than the entire second season so far of Desperate Housewives.That's exactly what I and Iris were thinking. This show reminds me a lot of Desperate Housewives of Season 1, but unique in its own respects. Out of 10, I give it a 9.

atrac
01-07-2006, 01:15 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed this show. Indeed, it appears to owe a debt to the first season of "Desperate Housewives" (right down to the cutesy sounding wall-to-wall music), but it worked for me.

I also agree with RegBarc that it was more drama than comedy; I think we can thank the previews for that misconception.

I'd also like to express great satisfaction in having a non-stereotype Asian male in the cast. He isn't a kung-fu expert and he's not an "A" student/geek. Amen. He's also hotter than hell (although he does follow the Tom Welling/"Smallville" route in that he doesn't look like he's age 16. But considering my previous comment, that keeps me safe from the law!).

The Jesus stuff really works for me. I don't see how it could be perceived as offensive at all (although was Jesus Canadian?). Interesting to see the guy from "The 4400" and "Deadwood" playing him though. He's well cast. :)

Also Daniel's wife looked so familiar to me and it was bugging me the whole episode. A quick visit to imdb.com reveals that Susanna Thompson played the Borg Queen (most of the time) in "Star Trek: Voyager."

Finally, the transistions to commercials were very nostalgic a la "Wild Wild West." A nice touch!

cherry ghost
01-07-2006, 09:07 AM
Reading this thread is the first I've heard of this being a comedy at all. I thought it was all drama. If I had known, I might have watched.

slydog75
01-07-2006, 09:14 AM
Reading this thread is the first I've heard of this being a comedy at all. I thought it was all drama. If I had known, I might have watched.

You didn't see the commercial where Jesus tells him he's tail-gating?

wendiness1
01-07-2006, 11:12 AM
I like it. I'll probably watch it again. But it ain't no "Desperate Housewives".

There are two rules of screenwriting that I think are being broken here and I hope they fix 'em.

(1) never say that same thing twice. If you've written it well the first time, the audience got it. I was getting pretty annoyed at the repetitive references to the family's relationship, i.e. how many times did they need to tell us (in a variety of ways) that their son is adopted? How many times did they need to point out that their other son is gay?

(2) Get to it and move on. Too many times the point was made and then the scene continued. The moment of impact was weakened. For example, when the minister sees his SiL and the "other woman" yukking it up there was - pause, look again, think about it. We got it with the first look and all the other stuff just watered it down.

Having said that, I think the characters are interesting and there's great potential for some great twists and turns. I also like the presence of Jesus. He has some of the best lines!

I'll be watching. Hope they speed up the pace and stop belaboring details.

dtle
01-07-2006, 12:07 PM
The show was hilarious...I love laughing at religious people and their faults.

Favorite lines of the shows (don't remember if it was the first or the second):

Catholic priest: "They found various assortments in his rectum."

Later on, wife asks: "Did they find the money?"

Daniel: "No, and apparrently, they looked everywhere."

dswallow
01-07-2006, 12:19 PM
The show was hilarious...I love laughing at religious people and their faults.
Even I wouldn't phrase it like that.

I love shows that demystify the whole religious angle and show people to be normal, human, complete with both faults and strengths of their own. Where the stories grab me is how it shows people struggling with everyday things and with the occasional out of the ordinary thing that occurs in their lives, both because of and in spite of their religious beliefs.

In this particular show, the enjoyable aspects, to me, are:

1) The reserved gay son who's out but not out to everyone, to whome being gay isn't the be all end-all of their existance.

2) The father/son relationship between the priest and the bishop.

3) The priest dealing with a dependence on Vicodin.

4) The intimate relationship between the two bishops, one of whome has a wife suffering from alzheimers.

5) The way the priest talks himself through things with his projection of Jesus.

We all have certain preconceived notions and the way the writers can take advantage of that yet weave interesting and believable stories while developing these characters in ways that make us care for them is what makes the show so good. Sometimes I might laugh at them, often laugh with them, and sometimes even identify with them. All together it's what draws me to the show. I like these people.

Hmmm... just was reminded of an elementary school friend who was a minister's son. Gosh I really wish there were easy ways to find people I knew that early in life to be able to get in touch with them again.

atrac
01-07-2006, 12:37 PM
In this particular show, the enjoyable aspects, to me, are:

1) The reserved gay son who's out but not out to everyone, to whome being gay isn't the be all end-all of their existance.



AMEN! This is something I forgot to mention in my previous post. Quite nice to see on a network show. To paraphrase the son, "I'm gay but I'm not going to march in a parade or anything." Quite refreshing!

goMO
01-07-2006, 02:01 PM
excellent show!! very refreshing. Aidan Quinn was starting to remind me (especially his voice) like Alan Thicke. He's in virtually every scene. must be alot of (well done) work.

although it did start to go over the top a bit towards the end. seeing the maid smoking a joint right where she could get caught was a little silly...

jradford
01-07-2006, 02:51 PM
ANyone one know if they will replay this premiere?

WeBoat
01-07-2006, 04:56 PM
I just watched it. I started it and stopped, then saw the comments about the first 40 minutes and finished it just now.

I have to say I really liked it. Decent plot, well acted, and I believe the religious aspect gives it a nice extra dimension. I defiantly don't see why some stations would not show this. I think it paints religion very positively.

defiantly an SP here on a VERY crowded friday night now.

Only issue: NBC6 in Miami, they had a major problem with the HD Switch. Never knew what I would get after the commercials.

balboa dave
01-07-2006, 05:17 PM
The only time I read a thread before a show airs is if I don't plan on watching the show. I'm glad I did, since the postive reviews here gave me reason to give it a try.

Other than the music (the style of which was originated by Mark Snow on the show Pasadena by the way), I don't agree with the Desperate Housewives comparisons. One of the main tenents of DH is that none of the characters are all that likeable, whereas most of the characters here are. The other is that the DH universe is sort of a hyper reality, where we can recognize the emotions and reactions of the characters, but the likelihood of any of the events happening is almost impossible. Nothing like BoD, where events are well grounded in reality.

How about Rescue Me crossed with Seventh Heaven?

I can't help but compare Daniel to Denis Leary's character on Rescue Me, both pill poppers and Jesus-talkers, with lives full of complications. Both of their main jobs even involve saving people. The shows have a nearly identical set of social and societal issues, but the difference is while Rescue Me is cynical and violent, Book of Daniel is more, well, hopeful and gentle. While I don't enjoy this show as much as Rescue Me, it's still good enough for a SP.

Marc
01-07-2006, 07:30 PM
I was quite disappointed to see my TiVo recording what it thought was "Book of Daniel" only to find that it was actually recording Crossing Jordan. The program guide showed that Crossing Jordan was on now, so it would seem that there was a last-minute scheduling change for it on the local NBC station and TiVo was kind of confused. :(

balboa dave
01-07-2006, 09:24 PM
I was quite disappointed to see my TiVo recording what it thought was "Book of Daniel" only to find that it was actually recording Crossing Jordan. The program guide showed that Crossing Jordan was on now, so it would seem that there was a last-minute scheduling change for it on the local NBC station and TiVo was kind of confused. :(Maybe your local station decided to join the boneheads who decided not to air the show, as discussed in this thread. (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=280324)

vman41
01-07-2006, 09:29 PM
5) The way the priest talks himself through things with his projection of Jesus.

I thought that was a chip in his head :D

Somebody had to say it.

justapixel
01-07-2006, 09:30 PM
Boring.

Warren
01-08-2006, 12:43 AM
mine didn't get recorded cause it was no longer in the guide data. :( Guess Dallas didn't show this one :(

dswallow
01-08-2006, 12:49 AM
Jan 6, 4:17 PM EST

'Book of Daniel' Snubbed by 4 Affiliates

NEW YORK (AP) -- Two more NBC affiliates chose not to air the network's new drama "The Book of Daniel," which features an Episcopal priest with a gay son, the network said Friday.

Four affiliates nationally have rejected the series (set for a two-hour premiere 9 p.m. EST Friday). Conservative Christian groups have campaigned against the series.

KBTV in Beaumont, Texas, and WGBC in Meridian, Miss., were the latest stations to reject the series. Earlier, NBC affiliates KARK in Little Rock, Ark., and WTWO in Terre Haute, Ind., said they wouldn't air it.

NBC has 230 affiliates nationally, and a spokeswoman noted that the four affiliates make up less than 1 percent of NBC's national audience.

The series stars Aidan Quinn as the Rev. Daniel Webster, and depicts him as talking regularly with Jesus Christ.

mrmike
01-08-2006, 01:10 AM
I was quite disappointed to see my TiVo recording what it thought was "Book of Daniel" only to find that it was actually recording Crossing Jordan.

Same here. I had to pull it off the net to watch it (and the audio is out of sync which is always fun). I liked it. It's no Joan, but it's got potential.

dthmj
01-08-2006, 04:01 AM
mine didn't get recorded cause it was no longer in the guide data. :( Guess Dallas didn't show this one :(

We saw it just fine on the DFW affiliate. My TiVo doesn't connect every night, so maybe we had bad guide data, but other than missing the first 10 seconds, we saw it fine.

northmoor
01-08-2006, 04:17 PM
I thought it was okay, and will keep watching to see the next few eps . It's no Desperate Housewives. It's certainly better than watching CBS' lineup of Ghost Whisperer, Close To Home and Numb3rs (although this lineup won the Friday ratings pretty handily).

But, I would be pissed if I had to live in one of those areas -- Tupelo, Mississippi; Beaumont, Texas; Little Rock, AR; and Terre Haute, Indiana:

I guess one of these stations showed INFOMERCIALS instead:

WTVA pre-empts ‘The Book of Daniel’
1/7/2006 8:21:59 AM
Daily Journal

TUPELO – If you wanted to see NBC's "The Book of Daniel" Friday night in Northeast Mississippi, you couldn't watch it on WTVA.

Tupelo’s NBC affiliate pre-empted the series premiere of the network’s new show, “The Book of Daniel,” which features a pill-popping Episcopal priest with a gay son. Viewers who get Memphis' NBC affiliate, WMC-TV5, were able to watch the show on that station.

The show has drawn the ire of groups like the Tupelo-based American Family Association, who urged its members to contact NBC stations in opposition of the new series.

“The decision was made not to air it,” David Bauer, producer/shift manager at WTVA, said late Friday. He would not comment further and directed other questions to station manager Jane Spain, who could not be reached for comment late Friday.

Whether WTVA will air the show in the future is unclear. Tribune Media Services had listed the station as running "Daniel" today from 7-9 p.m., but Tribune Media, which provides TV schedules to the Daily Journal and many other newspapers and online sites, now lists the station's lineup tonight as "Crossing Jordan" followed by "Medium." WTVA's Web site, meanwhile, lists "A Knight's Tale" as airing at 7 p.m. WTVA officials were unavailable for comment early today.

WTVA was airing informercials Friday night in place of the show, which was pre-empted on several other NBC stations, including WGBC in Meridian. At least three other affiliates did not air the show Friday – KBTV in Beaumont, Texas; KARK in Little Rock, Ark.; and WTWO in Terre Haute, Ind.

Appeared originally in the Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal, 1/7/2006 8:00:00 AM, section A , page 5



If they don't like a show -- or, in this case, think they won't like it before it's even shown -- then turn the channel and watch something else.

I'm completley sick of these people (and have been for a long time) with all their hypocritical "religious" bs. f em. :)

PJO1966
01-08-2006, 06:49 PM
I loved this show. Yet another show that balances drama with comedy and makes it work. The performances were great (is it required for wealthy suburban housewives to walk around with martini's in their hands?). The characters were pretty well-written considering it's only the first episode. Some of the supporting characters were a little two-dimensional (the girl's mother who complained that she didn't want "Oriental children running around my Christmas tree"). Loved the interplay between the siblings. They bickered and teased each other, but there wasn't any real maliciousness behind it. Finally, Aidan Quinn was terrific. He came across as a real person with real problems. This one is a keeper for me.

PJO1966
01-08-2006, 06:51 PM
Oh, and the only people I would expect to be offended by this show would be Catholics. They show the one and only Roman Catholic priest on the show in bed with the mob and blackmailing an Episcopalian priest. Other than that, I'm clueless.

JYoung
01-09-2006, 12:33 AM
Oh, and the only people I would expect to be offended by this show would be Catholics. They show the one and only Roman Catholic priest on the show in bed with the mob and blackmailing an Episcopalian priest. Other than that, I'm clueless.

Well, it's not so much the priest as it is the Mafia that's doing the "pressuring".

I can think of other elements that conservative religious types would object to.
The gay son.
The vicodin addiction.
The lesbian sister-in-law and her husband's secretary.
The pot selling daughter.
The adopted son who can't keep it in his pants.
The two Bishops engaging in an affair.
The alzheimers Grandmother.

I'm surprised that people thought the characters were likeable.
I almost stopped watching at both the 20 minute and 40 minute marks because I found the whole Webster family except for Daniel so unlikeable.
The saving grace to me so far are the conversations Daniel has with Jesus.

I also found it amusing how the secretary's red Mustang Convertable changed model years between episodes..
I haven't stopped watching yet though as there is some promise here.

JustAllie
01-09-2006, 06:55 AM
I can think of other elements that conservative religious types would object to.
The gay son.
The vicodin addiction.
The lesbian sister-in-law and her husband's secretary.
The pot selling daughter.
The adopted son who can't keep it in his pants.
The two Bishops engaging in an affair.
The alzheimers Grandmother.

I'm not sure why the grandmother with Alzheimer's disease would offend conservative religious types, but I agree on the rest. I can see people objecting to the show's portrayal of the church and of members of the church. These folks are MAJORLY flawed. But there's no question that the character of Jesus is shown in a very positive way in this show. He's supportive and he constantly reminds Daniel about what would be the right thing to do (even if Daniel sometimes ignores him or makes excuses).

My favorite scene in the whole show is when Daniel is in the doorway thinking about his mother and how she doesn't realize that she's his mother, and Jesus just puts his hand on Daniel's shoulder. I have met people of very strong faith who probably see the "hand of Jesus" resting on their shoulder in times of need. It would be hard to see Daniel as a "man of the cloth" given his addiction problems and his family problems, but then you realize that this guy turns to God throughout the day. So it keeps his character real, I guess.

This season pass is a keeper, but I agree with others in this thread in hoping that some of the characters become less cliched over time. The Paxtons in particular are very two-dimensional.

DaveBogart
01-09-2006, 08:57 AM
Boring.
With that I would have to agree. Yet somehow I like the show. Sort of reminds me of "Family." Even though that show put me to sleep, it was one I had to watch every week.

northmoor
01-09-2006, 09:10 AM
for me, any new show that is not a formulaic crime drama (csi, csi-miami, csi-ny, law & order, law & order-ci, law & order svu, law & order - tbj, criminal minds, medium, numb3rs, cold case, crossing jordan, etc etc etc etc) gets points right away.

regarding the list above, I also read articles where the American Family Assn types listed the drinking of the wife as objectionable. I think they referred to her almost as a drunk, but she only had one or two drinks and was never shown drunk.

i don't think these self-delusional people would be happy until they turned television into 24-7 of the 700 Club with perhaps an occassional repeat of Leave It To Beaver and maybe The Waltons.

crazywater
01-09-2006, 09:52 AM
Looks like it didn't exactly set ratings world on fire, even after all of the "promotion"...

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - NBC's limited-run series "The Book of Daniel" earned its share of advance scrutiny for its portrayals of contemporary men and women of the cloth, but that didn't translate to a large turnout for the drama's premiere Friday.

The network had better news on Thursday with the debut of its remodeled 8-10 p.m. comedy block anchored by "My Name Is Earl." ABC also had a pulse for a change that night thanks to the return of its summer sensation "Dancing With the Stars."

"Daniel," which stars Aidan Quinn as a conflicted Episcopalian priest grappling with modern-day work and family issues and occasional visits from Jesus, opened in the 9-11 p.m. Friday berth to an average of 9 million viewers and a 2.7 rating/8 share in the adults 18-49 demographic, according to preliminary estimates from Nielsen Media Research.

"Daniel" improved slightly on NBC's season average on what has been a troubled night for that network in particular and a low-rated night for the Big Four in general this season. Despite the buzz and a handful of affiliate defections, however, the back-to-back episodes of "Daniel" still came in behind CBS' dramas "Close to Home" (11.5 million, 2.9/8) and "Numbers" (13.6 million, 3.6.10) and ABC's new "In Justice" (9.2 million, 2.8/8) and "20/20" (9.2 million, 3.0/9). The drama will settle into its regular 10 p.m. slot as of next week for the rest of its eight-episode run.

No Solace for NBC as "Daniel" disappoints (http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=televisionNews&storyID=2006-01-09T050631Z_01_HO918364_RTRIDST_0_TELEVISION-RATINGS-DC.XML)

Meathead
01-09-2006, 10:43 AM
Even thought I missed the first 15 minutes or so (forgot to start recording it), I liked it. I will at least give it a chance.

That said, it has gone well beyond the realm of realism & that is where I can see all the religious protesting. The show casts Daniel as a Episcopal priest. My wife was raised Episcopal & she was able to provide some insight to me during the show.

While the Episcopal church is very progressive (allowing priest to marry, allowing women to be ordained, etc), this series seems to be taking that progressiveness to an extreme.
Just because one group of the Episcopal church in one area of the country has accepted a gay priest, does not mean that the entire church nationwide has embraced it. In fact, it is pretty much tearing the Episcopal church apart.
There is no reason for two Bishops to reside in the same area. Daniel's father and the female Bishop would not live in the same area because the church would not place two Bishops in the same place...even if it had an unusually large number of followers. There may be an Archbishop and a Bishop in the same place, but not two Bishops.
I understand that the series is trying to put a human face on men & women of the cloth, but it is too far out there to say that a priest would sit idly by and accept it while his son screws half the town's teenage girls, his other son chases after their brothers, and his daughter deals pot to anyone left out. A non-religious parent would be beating the crap out of these three kids...that does not even start on the judgement a priest would bring down on his kids.
The sister-in-law / brother-in-law / secretary three way that results in his death & their lesbian trysts to continue? That just seems to be coming from left field.
Daniel asking the couple in pre-marriage counseling about their sex life. As progressive as the Episcopal church is, they still do no endorse sex out of wedlock. They may be realistic about it, but Daniel seemes to be advising & endorsing their actions. And that does not even start on her drug use.


More than anything, it seems that this show is pushing the "Episcopals accept gays" angle. Since that is pretty much inaccurate, I can see why people are getting up in arms over it.

JustAllie
01-09-2006, 11:01 AM
Yeah, the portrayal of the Episcopal Church and its members is pretty far over-the-top. My aunt is an Episcopal priest, and while she's "progressive," that's not the same thing as standing by while every commandment on the tablets is broken. ;)

Regarding #3 on Meathead's list, I think maybe Daniel's father is retired. He might have retired as a bishop, so he keeps the title, but not the responsibilities. It's just my guess.

Meathead
01-09-2006, 11:10 AM
Regarding #3 on Meathead's list, I think maybe Daniel's father is retired. He might have retired as a bishop, so he keeps the title, but not the responsibilities. It's just my guess.
I thought about that, but if he is retired, there would be no reason for him to continue wearing his vestments and working as he was the morning he & Daniel found his sister-in-law with the lesbian secretary.

JYoung
01-09-2006, 11:38 AM
I'm not sure why the grandmother with Alzheimer's disease would offend conservative religious types, but I agree on the rest. I can see people objecting to the show's portrayal of the church and of members of the church. These folks are MAJORLY flawed. But there's no question that the character of Jesus is shown in a very positive way in this show. He's supportive and he constantly reminds Daniel about what would be the right thing to do (even if Daniel sometimes ignores him or makes excuses).


[conservative parental unit]
Elders should be respected and not have their failing facilties made fun of.
[/conservative parental unit]

Well, that wasn't case but you know what I'm saying.

I found the Webster family (except for Daniel) totally unlikeable in the first hour.
They were better in the second hour (which was actually a seperate episode).



regarding the list above, I also read articles where the American Family Assn types listed the drinking of the wife as objectionable. I think they referred to her almost as a drunk, but she only had one or two drinks and was never shown drunk.


I don't know, I got the impression that Mrs. Webster was somewhat lit during that first Sunday dinner.
She was more redeeming in the second hour though.

GadgetFreak
01-09-2006, 02:07 PM
Just because one group of the Episcopal church in one area of the country has accepted a gay priest, does not mean that the entire church nationwide has embraced it. In fact, it is pretty much tearing the Episcopal church apart.

Partially accurate. There have been gay priests in many parts of the country and while people have differing viewpoints on that, it was naming a gay BISHOP in New Hampshire that produced a much more intense conflict.

JustAllie
01-09-2006, 02:30 PM
I thought about that, but if he is retired, there would be no reason for him to continue wearing his vestments and working as he was the morning he & Daniel found his sister-in-law with the lesbian secretary.Lots of retired pastors continue to provide various services on a part-time basis. There is a semi-retired minister at my parents' church who spends countless hours every week visiting church members who are in the hospital. He's only loosely "employed" by the church, but he's still ordained and can serve communion, pray with people, provide comfort, etc. My parents call him "St. Eldon." He's a marvel. And yeah, he wears vestments sometimes. (As a Methodist minister, however, he doesn't wear a collar.)

But I'm still just guessing about Daniel's father. I can't think of another reason why there would be two bishops in the area, especially when one of them (Daniel's father) doesn't seem that wrapped up with church affairs.

Oh boy... I should have worded that differently, given his "affair" with the other bishop! :o ;)

innersanctum
01-09-2006, 02:53 PM
I was really surprised. Right before I started it, I saw it is actually slated as a "quirky drama," and not a comedy. That disappointed me a little, but I watched and I am thusfar very impressed. Quinn is great, and so is the supporting cast. The Jesus idea I was wary about at first, but it actually seems to be worked in nicely.

It was blacked out on NBC in the Davenport, IA market.

northmoor
01-09-2006, 03:16 PM
[conservative parental unit]
Elders should be respected and not have their failing facilties made fun of.
[/conservative parental unit]
...
I don't know, I got the impression that Mrs. Webster was somewhat lit during that first Sunday dinner.
She was more redeeming in the second hour though.

I only remember a lot of screaming and drama at the Sunday dinner, and then she said: "I've got to have a drink:" and then she went and mixed herself one martini. She returned holding the martini in her hand. It didn't even show her take even one sip of it, as she forgot to put olives in it and left the dining room to get some before even sipping it. I don't see how that makes her a "drunk" or makes her look even a little "lit."

I guess to some that mixing one drink makes one a drunk?

JustAllie
01-09-2006, 03:25 PM
I think JYoung is referring to the time when she stumbled, and Daniel had to catch her and help her walk. She struck me as either drunk or ill at that point, and by the end of the episode we have no reason to believe she's ill, soooo....

JYoung
01-09-2006, 03:39 PM
I think JYoung is referring to the time when she stumbled, and Daniel had to catch her and help her walk. She struck me as either drunk or ill at that point, and by the end of the episode we have no reason to believe she's ill, soooo....


Yep, plus it seemed to be implied that she had one or two before dinner.

I wonder though, would this show have worked better if Daniel wasn't a priest/minister but just an average Joe expressing his faith?

Bob31
01-09-2006, 10:30 PM
There is no doubt how the show's writers are trying to portray the wife. Check out their page on NBC's website where she is shown with a drink prominently featured in her hand.

Royster
01-10-2006, 10:34 AM
But I'm still just guessing about Daniel's father. I can't think of another reason why there would be two bishops in the area, especially when one of them (Daniel's father) doesn't seem that wrapped up with church affairs.

There are a couple of possibilities. Episcopal dioceses often have a bishop suffrigan, or assisting bishop, in adition to a diocesan. Daniel's father seems to be the retired bishop of that diocese. Retired bishops in the EC sometimes act as assisting bishops and do confirmations and make visitations when requested by a diocesan who either has too many churches to visit or who has some parishes which don;t want him on their property. Someone on one of my Anglican mailing lists thought Daniel's father was the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church (a bishop without a diocese), but I don't think that's likely.

I thought that the implication that the two bishops were getiing it on was a bit OTT.

LlamaLarry
01-23-2006, 08:40 AM
I am midway through the first episode and had a quick question. Did the episode start with him bailing out his daughter and I missed the first few minutes? I spent the first 30 minutes thinking "Man, it's like they dropped me right into the middle of the story".

dswallow
11-26-2006, 09:07 PM
I just started watching the DVD today and the show's holding up well to another viewing; of course it makes me miss it all that much more.

ccooperev
11-27-2006, 08:40 AM
I just started watching the DVD today and the show's holding up well to another viewing; of course it makes me miss it all that much more.

I seem to recall the last episode was never aired. Is that included in the DVD?

dswallow
11-27-2006, 08:59 AM
I seem to recall the last episode was never aired. Is that included in the DVD?
It includes all 8 episodes (2 of which make up the 2-hour pilot), including the 4 that weren't aired.

unicorngoddess
11-27-2006, 09:15 AM
Sweet. I really like this show but I could never get the online episodes to play properly. I'm glad they decided to release the DVD.

PJO1966
11-27-2006, 11:34 AM
It includes all 8 episodes (2 of which make up the 2-hour pilot), including the 4 that weren't aired.


Didn't the last 4 air on-line, or was it only 3?

dswallow
11-27-2006, 11:35 AM
Didn't the last 4 air on-line, or was it only 3?
They all aired online, but the numbering of them was screwed up so it appeared that one was left.

PJO1966
11-27-2006, 11:43 AM
They all aired online, but the numbering of them was screwed up so it appeared that one was left.


It looks like I only got three of them... I guess I should rent the DVD.

JustAllie
11-27-2006, 03:40 PM
I am so glad they released the unaired episodes on DVD. I had not caught the online versions of the unaired episodes. "God's Will" had me absolutely bawling. :(