Prison Break 10/31/2005 (S01E09) "Tweener"

[dswallow]

I have secret fantasies about pulling the pants down of someone who wears their pants around their butt, leaving their underwear showing.

[MikeMar]

Decent episode. All kinda bitter sweet since there will only be a few more eps for a few months :(

[Magister]

Pretty cool episode, has any bit of his plan not been jeoperdized?

[dswallow]

Best line of the episode: "You think he found the hole?"

[BoobTube]

Unfortunately an unexpected double episode of Medium tonight screwed up my Prison Break recording, so I missed tonights episode. Any chance of this re-running anytme soon?

[dswallow]

Unfortunately an unexpected double episode of Medium tonight screwed up my Prison Break recording, so I missed tonights episode. Any chance of this re-running anytme soon?
They had been running the previous weeks episode in the 8pm ET timeslot just prior to the current weeks episode, but next week they've got some sort of Arrested Development special there instead.

Your best bet is probably dowloading it via BitTorrent; it ought to be available in the next 6 or 8 hours.

[BoobTube]

Your best bet is probably dowloading it via BitTorrent; it ought to be available in the next 6 or 8 hours.

Thanks for the suggestion!

[DevdogAZ]

Interesting ep. I was glad that Veronica caught onto what LJ was saying and didn't lead him into a trap. When she was telling him where to go, I thought for sure he was toast.

We saw a quick shot of the phone that said LJ was sending the picture but then he got an incoming call from Lincoln. Later, we find out he ditched the phone. Do we think that the picture actually got sent or did the incoming call disrupt it? If he did send it, who did he send it to?

Why did we see the bearded black guy following them around and watching them dump the bits of concrete? It seems they always foreshadow stuff on this show but then fail to follow through. It would work fine if it were a movie and you had plenty of time to develop the plot, but in a TV show, that kind of foreshadowing needs to lead to something in that same episode or people won't remember it later and it won't have the intended effect. It doesn't have to be the black guy confronting anyone, but even just a final shot of him picking up another piece of concrete and eyeing Michael would have been enough to let us know that they didn't forget about that.

[spikedavis]

Hey guys-I noticed something cool tonight. I wrote about it over at my blog tvtalkpodcast.com but here's the recap of it. When LJ sends that picture from his phone to his email, the email address is onscreen for several seconds-so I sent an email to it and here's the reponse I got back....


From: lj@ign.com
Subject: Re: Prison Break
Date: October 31, 2005 11:25:55 PM PST
To: tvtalk@gmail.com

Hey, how's it going? I know what a long time it's been since the last time I talked to you so I just wanted to write back and ask how's your dad, your mom? I'm on a boat sailing but I'm, looking forward to being home and safe, back in a harbor.

Someone asked me the other day if I remembered what steady land felt like under my legs . I don't, but I'm sure you do! There's no need to worry, I'll be back in the states soon. But I'm enjoying the time I have here in another part of the world. A few days ago we were off the coast of Costa Rica and you wouldn't believe how many dolphins there were about, all over the water! For me, it was a life changing experience.

I hope things with you are good, and that your luck, as always is unchanged. Be sure to remember that I, and everyone else here thinks about your love, and you, every day!

L.J.

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So what the hell does this mean? Is there some kind of message hidden in there? Will I be getting any more emails from LJ? This could be interesting....anyway, I'm going to keep everyone updated about what I get back from LJ on my site, so check it out....

[appleye1]

If he did send it, who did he send it to?

It looked to me like he sent it to himself.

So what the hell does this mean? Is there some kind of message hidden in there? Will I be getting any more emails from LJ? This could be interesting....anyway, I'm going to keep everyone updated about what I get back from LJ on my site, so check it out....
I don't know if the email would be formatted correctly but maybe there's a message in the last word on each line, just like they used to get a message to his dad?

[Magister]

It seems they always foreshadow stuff on this show but then fail to follow through. It would work fine if it were a movie and you had plenty of time to develop the plot, but in a TV show, that kind of foreshadowing needs to lead to something in that same episode or people won't remember it later and it won't have the intended effect. It doesn't have to be the black guy confronting anyone, but even just a final shot of him picking up another piece of concrete and eyeing Michael would have been enough to let us know that they didn't forget about that.

There are a few shows this season working like this: Lost, Prison Break, Invasion, Threshold, Surface...

We see now that the supply guy (bearded guy) will be stirring up trouble.

With a huge story arc, they can't resolve every single issue. This isn't a 'Three's Company' episode. The individual episodes don't stand alone.

I guess you aren't watching Lost, it is much worse about showing some problem and maybe never resolving the issue.

[KRS]

Pretty cool episode, has any bit of his plan not been jeoperdized?

In addition to the guy seeing the pieces of concrete they were dumping in the yard*, there was someone eavesdropping in the chapel when Schofield was talking to his brother. They didn't say anything too specific, but talk of "getting out of here" is pretty incriminating.


*I took the tour of Alcatraz a few years back, and the criminals who managed to escape did get rid of the rubble from the hole they were digging by dropping it in the yard. They were even more crafty, dropping it through holes in their pocket and down their pants legs.

[Gai-jin]

Is it possible the email address was just a coincidence? I don't know what IGN would have to do with network tv... perhaps that email address belongs to another LJ, and they just made up an address, but it ended up being a live address?

I know, odds are slim, but... I'm not sure that email seems like it's related to the show at all... unless in upcoming episodes LJ takes off sailing to get away from it all. Hmm... perhaps the whole family of guys sail off into the sunset after getting out of prison?

[MitchO]

How randomly observant do you have to be to see them dropping little rocks on the ground?

Shawshank Redemption had him rigging a rope in his pants that had them dump when he pulled, rather than making the actual dropping motion.

[AstroDad]

Is it possible the email address was just a coincidence? I don't know what IGN would have to do with network tv... perhaps that email address belongs to another LJ, and they just made up an address, but it ended up being a live address?

I know, odds are slim, but... I'm not sure that email seems like it's related to the show at all... unless in upcoming episodes LJ takes off sailing to get away from it all. Hmm... perhaps the whole family of guys sail off into the sunset after getting out of prison?

I can't imagine a network just throwing an e-mail out there not knowing if it belonged to anyone. If anything, they would make up a fake domain for it.

I think that e-mail is attached to the show and the reply may give us some clues for how things will end.

[KRS]

I just e-mailed LJ as well and almost immediately got the same response.

[sbc44]

News Corp owns Fox and IGN, i don't think theres any real significance to them using that domain other than that.

[AstroDad]

I just e-mailed LJ as well and almost immediately got the same response.

Ditto

[coolpenguin]

I too, missed this episode. ARG. I've had no luck with bit torrent (computer issues on my end)

[canyonero!]

How randomly observant do you have to be to see them dropping little rocks on the ground?

Shawshank Redemption had him rigging a rope in his pants that had them dump when he pulled, rather than making the actual dropping motion.
Nah, the rope in Shawshank was only for his escape. He tied the bag of evidence and clothes to his leg with the rope. He got rid of the stones the exact same way the Alcatraz guys did: holes in pockets.

Another good episode, even with all the reality distorting stuff. Secret Service can trace and tap his cell, but can't read incoming text messages? Also, I'm sure they could either recover the text message (if LJ deleted it) or go back to the wireless company to read the transmission. Oh, and good thing that Officer Of the Month board fit perfectly into the hole. ;)

Not complaining, just things I noticed. Still really enjoy the show.

[MitchO]

I think the whole is considerably smaller than the plaque, actually.

I said the same thing about the text message to my wife.

[Jesda]

I've decided not to watch the show until they actually break out of prison. The slow-moving story line and the total lack of any resolution is frustrating. I'll save myself some time and follow Prison Break using this forum instead.

[canyonero!]

I've decided not to watch the show until they actually break out of prison. The slow-moving story line and the total lack of any resolution is frustrating. I'll save myself some time and follow Prison Break using this forum instead.
I still don't quite understand comments like these from people that watch shows like this and Lost. Why even bother if you can't enjoy what you percieve to be a slowly paced show? We've all seen "prison escape" type movies before. What would be the point in a TV show just like that?

[hereafter]

I thought we were going to have another Kim Bauer situation on our hands with LJ, a character I'm already tired of, with several episodes of him wondering how they keep finding him and never getting it. I'm glad they resolved it relatively quickly. It's nice to see that some of the characters are significantly smarter right off the bat than they are in "24", at least for now...

[dswallow]

Oh, and good thing that Officer Of the Month board fit perfectly into the hole. ;)
It wasn't a perfect fit; it seemed to be 4 or 5 inches too big, actually. ;)

[DevdogAZ]

Nah, the rope in Shawshank was only for his escape. He tied the bag of evidence and clothes to his leg with the rope. He got rid of the stones the exact same way the Alcatraz guys did: holes in pockets.
In Shawshank, didn't Andy take the dirt and rocks from his cell to the yard in the turned up cuffs of his pants?

[DevdogAZ]

There are a few shows this season working like this: Lost, Prison Break, Invasion, Threshold, Surface...

We see now that the supply guy (bearded guy) will be stirring up trouble.

With a huge story arc, they can't resolve every single issue. This isn't a 'Three's Company' episode. The individual episodes don't stand alone.

I guess you aren't watching Lost, it is much worse about showing some problem and maybe never resolving the issue.
Yes, I've seen every episode of Lost and haven't noticed this problem. Sure, they leave stories open-ended. There's nothing wrong with that. But they don't simply allude to something and then not follow through.

I don't expect a resolution of the entire issue within an episode. I just expect that at the end of the episode, there will be several scenes referencing each of the ongoing plots and things that were introduced in that episode so we know the status of everything going into the next show.

[Magnolia88]

I am still enjoying this show, and I was glad that LJ was able to stay alive for at least one more week.

I have to say this is the first time I've ever felt that an actor on TV might be too good at his role. The actor playing T-Bag is excellent, but boy is he creeeepy. I really hope he doesn't survive to break out because it won't be entertaining to see him out on the streets.

[DevdogAZ]

I am still enjoying this show, and I was glad that LJ was able to stay alive for at least one more week.

I have to say this is the first time I've ever felt that an actor on TV might be too good at his role. The actor playing T-Bag is excellent, but boy is he creeeepy. I really hope he doesn't survive to break out because it won't be entertaining to see him out on the streets.
In an interview in USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-10-30-prison-break-interview_x.htm), the actor who plays Lincoln was asked about the quality of the other actors.
Q: T-Bag seems particularly scary.

A: The great thing about Rob (Knepper) is the guy is such a sweetheart. People are avoiding him on the street because they think he's a psychopath.

[daperlman]

Ok there is no way that guard has realtions with that girl... without something going in the hole. (that didn't come out right).

I don't know about you guys but I am looking forward to Abruzzi giving Falzone his just desserts on the outside.

Those secret service guys are starting to look like Inspector Clouseau.

[spikedavis]

guys, I got the email figured out. One of my listeners wrote in and told me. If you take the first word in front of every comma you get "Hey dad. I'm safe. Don't worry about me. Good luck, I love you." That's pretty cool....

[MikeMar]

guys, I got the email figured out. One of my listeners wrote in and told me. If you take the first word in front of every comma you get "Hey dad. I'm safe. Don't worry about me. Good luck, I love you." That's pretty cool....

Duh, should have thought of that, just like the message he sent him in prison!

[Kamakzie]

How many more shows till hiatus?

[dswallow]

How many more shows till hiatus?
11/7
11/14
11/21
11/28

Four. ;)

http://www.epguides.com/PrisonBreak/

[spikedavis]

That sucks man...Battlestar Galactica's hiatus is already killing me...

[hereafter]

In an interview in USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-10-30-prison-break-interview_x.htm), the actor who plays Lincoln was asked about the quality of the other actors.

Quote:
Q: T-Bag seems particularly scary.

A: The great thing about Rob (Knepper) is the guy is such a sweetheart. People are avoiding him on the street because they think he's a psychopath.



That's funny, because I have several friends who work on the show who say the actor who plays T-Bag is just as creepy off-camera...

[AstroDad]

guys, I got the email figured out. One of my listeners wrote in and told me. If you take the first word in front of every comma you get "Hey dad. I'm safe. Don't worry about me. Good luck, I love you." That's pretty cool....

Thanks Spike!

[desulliv]

Gotta think "Tweener" is not long for this world. Idiots like that probably don't last long in prison. One minute he's begging for help and the next he's calling T-Bag out in the yard.

[MitchO]

I have to admit that I was thinking that unlike Seth, "Tweener" actually deserved to be T-Bag's bitch for a little while. =P

[newsposter]

That sucks man...Battlestar Galactica's hiatus is already killing me...

thats funny...I still have both parts of the 'movie' and all eps on DVD or tivo waiting to be watched. I just dont have the time and dont want to start in the middle.

thought i'd drive you nuts some more :)


to the poster that wont watch until they break out...you do realize once they break out and sit on the beaches of tahiti that the show is over? You'd only have 1 ep to watch! The show IS about prison break, not on the run. Unless I"m missing the whole premise here. Also where will they truly go? It's like all they do is think about getting out but what will they do once they are out?

Also, if i recall correctly, that's the table where the guards play cards right? Wont they notice a big hole where their feet go? Or are they staying out of there while all the asbestos is being removed?

I think it's funny how the new kids had an identity crisis but since this is a family board wont say more.

[scooterboy]

Duh, should have thought of that, just like the message he sent him in prison!
No it isn't. The one he sent had the key word at the end of every line.

[5thcrewman]

A soft-white to the left eye!! :eek:

[Gregor]

How randomly observant do you have to be to see them dropping little rocks on the ground?

Shawshank Redemption had him rigging a rope in his pants that had them dump when he pulled, rather than making the actual dropping motion.

You might be thinking of The Great Escape?

[MikeMar]

No it isn't. The one he sent had the key word at the end of every line.

Same idea.

You couldn't do the keyword at the end of every line in an email incase it got resized.

[robpickles]

Sweet.

Rob :)

[Jesda]

Why even bother if you can't enjoy what you percieve to be a slowly paced show?

Thats what I just said. I'm not watching anymore because its slowly paced.

[Deekeryu]

This was one good episode. I liked that little twist there where I thought LJ was sure going to be done for.

What I don't get is when Lincoln opened that package from the attorney; how did he know to look at the last column of words. I know there was some sticky note that probably clued Lincoln in, but to me it really meant nothing, something about a 6th Grade Weatherman class or something?

I like any scene with T-bag in it. He is such a great actor that you just believe how evil he is. His dialogue is always on the mark. Liked the storyline with the new 'freshman' trying to fit in.

Hmm, I wonder what will happen next episode. Will those guys find the hole in the break room? Also, anyone know what P.I. stands for?

[keyzersoce]

Also, anyone know what P.I. stands for?


I assumed it was short for Prison Industries. Prisons have now evolved to more than just making license plates. So Abruzzi would have wielded great power if he had the ability to assign jobs.


On another topic, after the phone was stolen from the table in the cafe, I assume the police would have the power to track it if it was used. I often read how they trace thieves by calling the stolen cellphone or just checking to see where it was used. It seems the lawyers would easily have been found.

[MitchO]

Just because they can track the phone doesnt mean they know who stole it.

[Warren]

In Texas they call them SSI's Support Service Inmate. Also haveing worked in a prison if all this stuff is getting done then it really gose to show that the guards are not doing their job

[KRS]

to the poster that wont watch until they break out...you do realize once they break out and sit on the beaches of tahiti that the show is over? You'd only have 1 ep to watch! The show IS about prison break, not on the run. Unless I"m missing the whole premise here. Also where will they truly go? It's like all they do is think about getting out but what will they do once they are out?


The show has been planned out for at least a second season. Not all of that will be in jail - once they break out, they have the whole conspiracy to deal with, not to mention being on the run while trying to prove that Lincoln was set up.

[newsposter]

Ok well if that is true, they need to change the title of the show. A season of prison break, without a prison break, is fraudulent advertising! :)

[Magister]

Ok well if that is true, they need to change the title of the show. A season of prison break, without a prison break, is fraudulent advertising! :)

Maybe it will be like L&O:SVU.. it will now be Prison Break:On the Run

[SullyND]

On another topic, after the phone was stolen from the table in the cafe, I assume the police would have the power to track it if it was used. I often read how they trace thieves by calling the stolen cellphone or just checking to see where it was used. It seems the lawyers would easily have been found.

There's also the matter of the text message being on the phone telling the Secret Service where they are (And if deleted, it could be pulled from the service provider too) but I think they'll have already moved on by the time they either identify and track the stolen cell phone, or find the text message.

[SullyND]

What I don't get is when Lincoln opened that package from the attorney; how did he know to look at the last column of words. I know there was some sticky note that probably clued Lincoln in, but to me it really meant nothing, something about a 6th Grade Weatherman class or something?

My guess is he was caught cheating in 6th grade using the same method.

[hereafter]

If I remember correctly, both Lincoln and Veronica have known each other since childhood, so presumably, they were in 6th grade together and it's a code they probably developed and used a long time ago and have never forgotten it, so they were able to use it again to good effect and only the two of them would know what it is, with only the place of origin needed as a reminder...

[Jaaycee]

hey, just wonderin, does anyone know the actual name of the guy that plays the bearded black dude in the show? (his character name and his actual name)

about time they included a black guy in their whole scheme... but to be honest, if they had an asian dude, they woulda been out a LOONG time ago :D

[hanumang]

hey, just wonderin, does anyone know the actual name of the guy that plays the bearded black dude in the show? (his character name and his actual name)

I don't believe the character's 'real name' has been revealed yet, but he goes by C-Note.

And he's played by Rockmond Dunbar (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0241870/).

[peitsche]

Another good episode, even with all the reality distorting stuff. Secret Service can trace and tap his cell, but can't read incoming text messages?

...this should be shown to all people who keep saying "why would someone send a text message when you can just call them?" :p this usually comes up when the discussion is about SMS usage in the US vs. Europe...


anyway, I just watched this episode last night and will watch the next one later this week...

I avoided the whole Prison Break euphoria in the beginning but when a friend of mine gave me a DVD with the first 12 episodes (via newsgroups) a few weeks ago, I couldn't resist...I will keep watching 2 or 3 episodes a week until I'm caught up... :D

I am so glad I didn't have to sit through the 3 1/2 month hiatus... :up: