Hacking your Series 2 DTivo just got a WHOLE lot easier...

[Gunnyman]

Hacking your 6.2 DirecTivo just got very easy! Rbautch and I have partnered to create a tool that completely automates the "Unguide (http://www.thewallens.net/tivo/tivo_unguide.html)" and installs his Tivo Enhancements, allowing you to completely hack your Tivo in no time at all. We thought it was the next logical step in Tivo Hacking, and so we proudly present "The Zipper (http://www.mastersav.com/tivo_zipper.html)". The Zipper is as easy as Tivo hacking gets! Please note, I will no longer be monitoring the 6.2 to hacked 6.2 thread so if you have questions ask them in THIS one. Support for Rbautch's enhancement script will continue in his original thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680).
Many thanks to principal tester Dirac, and beta testers Jasch, Tsunami, and David Platt. Special thanks to Lou Jacob for his guidance throughout the development of The Zipper.
Please note, Rbautch and I will be monitoring this thread very regularly, so PLEASE don't discuss it at "the other place" or fill up our PM Boxes with questions.
DO NOT POST ON DDB ABOUT THE ZIPPER....

[fredfillis]

You guys are freakin' legends!

Even though my DSR7000's are done I'm almost tempted to pull the drive outta one of those suckers just so I can give The Zipper a try!

Where do we send the beer tickets!

[Kevin L]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Actually, not :mad: at you guys, but at DirecTV. I now have three HR10-250s and am phasing out my HDVR2s and DVR39.

When, oh WHEN, DirecTV, ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE US 6.2 FOR THE HR10-250? (caps intentional).

I don't care about copying the recordings. I just want the other cool tools, especially HMO.

Great work Gunny and rbautch! :up: :up: :up:

[willardcpa]

OMG :eek: How will I ever be able to sleep peaceably again. :( Looking at Gunny's avatar and hearing him say over and over again, "You must try my Zipper, go ahead you won't be disappointed" :eek:
If I have any problems with it can I ask questions at DDB? :p :D

Seriously, outstanding. :up:

[rbautch]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Actually, not :mad: at you guys, but at DirecTV. I now have three HR10-250s and am phasing out my HDVR2s and DVR39.

When, oh WHEN, DirecTV, ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE US 6.2 FOR THE HR10-250? (caps intentional).

I don't care about copying the recordings. I just want the other cool tools, especially HMO.

Great work Gunny and rbautch! :up: :up: :up: You wouldn't be the first. Try this (http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/hr10-250_6.2_update/). DirecTV will eventually phase out the HD DTivos in favor of an mpeg-4 version. I even heard you'll get a free swap out when that happens, but the new one won't be a Tivo!

[eddyj]

So what do I do to be able to keep my phone line cocnnected (for CallerID)? The guiude says to keep it off.

[Kevin L]

You wouldn't be the first. Try this (http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/hr10-250_6.2_update/). DirecTV will eventually phase out the HD DTivos in favor of an mpeg-4 version. I even heard you'll get a free swap out when that happens, but the new one won't be a Tivo!Thanks, rbautch. I signed that petition the first week it was out. Also suggested to the author to correct the term HD TiVo (since there is no such animal) to HR10-250. Petitions always seem more plausible when accurate.

Great job!

[rbautch]

So what do I do to be able to keep my phone line cocnnected (for CallerID)? The guiude says to keep it off.You shouldn't have to do anything special to be able to leave your phone line connected, since the script should take care the things required to keep you Tivo from calling the mothership. However, before you leave your phone line connected indefinitely, check the information in the Settings/Phone menu to see when the "next scheduled" call is supposed to be made. The script should update this date every Sunday and Wednesday night to make it at least 6 days out in the future, fooling the Tivo into thinking that it's never time to make the call. I put the line in the instructions about not connecting because there's a chance newbies can screw up the settings that keep the calls from being made. So, as the script runs, make sure you:

1. Say "yes" to the cron installation.
2. Say "no" to only rebooting if shows aren't recording.

Finally, continue to monitor your "next sceduled call" to make sure it's getting reset properly. Only after you have confirmed this works properly should you connect your phone line.

[classicsat]

I think you can get, or at least make, CID filters which will pass CID data only.

[sschwart]

Don't suppose this would work on a Series 1 with a NIC installed, would it? :)

Nice work, Gunny and Rbautch!

[TomK]

Great work, you guys!

I have a question - your directory listing on the TiVo_Zipper page shows the 'rbautch-files.tgz' file as being 2,218 KB in size. However, the size of this file in the "Tools CD" (tools_disk.zip) file is only 2,135 KB.

Is the "Tools CD" ok as is?

[Gunnyman]

yes
the CD has gone through a couple of changes since the image was captured for the instruction page.

[TomK]

yes
the CD has gone through a couple of changes since the image was captured for the instruction page.


Thanks!

[Gunnyman]

You're welcome :D

[F1 Fan]

its a ok to a .px file for the kernel instead of the.GZ format when making the toolcd for Zipper?I got my kernel from somwhere else instead of the the ptupgrade cd.

Thanks

[Gunnyman]

the script unzips it, so if you can, re gzip it and call it what the instructions say to.

[F1 Fan]

could i do the the re gzip with winrar? i know how to make rar and zip files but never heard of the gz fornat until now.

Thanks

[Gunnyman]

I THINK so
I'm on a mac and it's been a while since I used winrar.
Also make SURE your killhdinit'ed kernel will WORK with 6.2

[F1 Fan]

ok i Ziped it and rename it to VMLINUX_.GZ but its a .rar file,BTW thanks for your help


I was also wondering could i use the Knopix boot cd instead of the pvupgrade cd?

Thanks

[Gunnyman]

use gzip instead.
http://www.gzip.org/
just did some googling

[F1 Fan]

which is what i should of done,Thanks a bunch

[Gunnyman]

no problem.
I guess we're going to have to adjust the script for this in the future.
What are you using for a boot disk anyway?

[F1 Fan]

i have MFS Tools2.0 and Knoppix and im planning on upgrading to a 160GB so i guess i should use the Knoppix right?or what ever you suggest

[Gunnyman]

you might have problems accessing the mfs partitions with the knoppix cd.
We reccomend the 5 dollar boot cd for a good reason, it understands the Tivo file system :p

[F1 Fan]

i dont have that cd and i want to start working on this and didnt want to wait for the cd,but i guess im going to have to order it.

[F1 Fan]

nevermind i found the free download that has th byte swap feature

[Gunnyman]

okas long as you use the kernel you have, and it's gzipped, AND it is compatible with 6.2 you will be ok.
The kernels on that free disk are NOT for series 2 DTivos.

[TomK]

You download it when you pay $5 for it. There's nothing to wait for.

[dsmturbo]

Thanks again Gunnyman and rbautch...you are the Best. Ever

[F1 Fan]

well how stupid of me! Thanks guys

[Gunnyman]

no problem.
Believe me we looked at many scenarios for getting this done, and the 5 dollar downloadable iso is by far the most idiot proofed way to get a good boot disk AND a hacked kernel, lets not re-invent the wheel we just re-invented :p

[bnm81002]

WOW this is truly so much easier than ever to hack the DTivo unit, first Gunny's "unguide" then rbautch "scripts" now "The ZIPPER", my question is where does the PTVnet CD(6.2 Version) fit into this great Zipper? or should I just use the Zipper w/o the PTVnet CD? wished you guys came out with the Zipper before I purchased the PTVnet CD, anyways GREAT WORK GUYS :up: :up: :up:

[F1 Fan]

well im downloading it and The_Zipper its the way to go,Thank you for all your help and pattience

[Gunnyman]

If you are going to use the PTVnet cd, I reccomend just using rbautch's enhancement script.
The Zipper does everything ptvnet does the enhancement script however is a bit fuller featured.
You get some very nice tivoweb modules, cron, season pass backup, and more.
Just realize PTVnet puts some stuff in places that the script may not know how to find.
I suggest asking about ptvnet in rbautch's script thread.

[bnm81002]

If you are going to use the PTVnet cd, I reccomend just using rbautch's enhancement script.
The Zipper does everything ptvnet does the enhancement script however is a bit fuller featured.
You get some very nice tivoweb modules, cron, season pass backup, and more.
Just realize PTVnet puts some stuff in places that the script may not know how to find.
I suggest asking about ptvnet in rbautch's script thread.




thanks Gunny,
I hope rbautch see's my post, I'd rather not double post my question and take up space on the forums but I think you answered my question, looks like the way to go is to use the Zipper to hack my unit w/o the PTVnet CD, thanks again :p

[Gunnyman]

The PTV net product is awesome though, I don't want anyone to think I was knocking it.

[bnm81002]

The PTV net product is awesome though, I don't want anyone to think I was knocking it.



I know you wasn't knocking it, it's great for those that are not comfortable with hacking their DTivo unit but The Zipper seems so easy that I think anyone can follow it and hack their unit with no problems(seems to me from reading these threads that most problems stems from not READING what was written or instructed to do and follow)

[Gunnyman]

we shall see when the success reports start coming in :D

[mikehome]

Just ran across this thread. Very good stuff! I have a quick question. Will I have the ability to transfer shows with "Tivo to go" after using zipper? I had a standalone b4 my DTivo and remember having to have a media access key.

Also, If i perform the scripts on a HD with 6.2 on it, will I need to rerun the Guided setup? Thanks guys!

[Gunnyman]

mike:
We can't talk about extraction here, but TTG is a standalone only feature.
If you already have 6.2 another guided setup will NOT be necessary.

[bnm81002]

so all that is needed off the InstantCake CD is the image(000001) copied to the Tools CD and nothing else?
also, what happens in the future when The Zipper is updated with new things/scripts? thanks again

[rbautch]

Correct.

[mgmrick]

Rbautch,

For those of us already hacked. Is this a newer script on your site? I see mention of twice weekly reboots.

Thanks
Rick

[rbautch]

Haven't had time to post the new one on the Enhancement Script site, but you can just download the tools disk, and then copy it from there. New goodies include some network settings and performance tools, along with the twice/week reboot.

[mikehome]

Thanks for your fast replies. Will the DTIVO hacked with zipper and MRV enabled send recording to a standalone tivo? Was thinking about picking up a standalone tivo to use MRV and TTG. Since TTG is for standalones....sending recordings via MRV then use TTG on the standalone would get my recordings to the proper place :o




DTIVO with 440 hrs of Recording time!
Yippee!

[Gunnyman]

mike,
yes with some caveats.
A standalone Series 2 can only MRV to a Directivo if IT has been superpatched as well.
Many of the Series 2 standalones being sold retail need some eeprom modifications done to enable the hack.
also check your PM's

[mikehome]

TY Gunny. Well....... guess I have some reading and decision making to do. I miss the TTG but your PM sounds interesting also. Thanks again... you guys rock!

[F1 Fan]

ok i did it,well i whent through the whole Zipper proccess but coulnt install the kernnel,it was looking for the GZ format and i thought i did but i guess not,anyways what do you guys suggest is the easiest way to put the kernnel in a freshly prepare hdd by zipper?I got everything in exept the kernel,I still have it connected to the pc(the hdd)

Thanks

[Gunnyman]

where did you get the kernel?

[bnm81002]

what happens in the future when The Zipper is updated with new things/scripts? thanks again




I edited this question in my original post a few mins. later

[F1 Fan]

from emule,what i have is the .px format file,tryed gziping with winrar but that dind do it,and couldnt figure out how to use GZip either

[Gunnyman]

well
here's what I can tell you,
the Kernel from the boot cd in the instructions works. Which is why it was suggested in the 1st place.

[Gunnyman]

I edited this question in my original post a few mins. later


well once you've zippered, you're hacked, When the enhancement script side gets updated, you can always ftp the new one over and run it.

[bnm81002]

well once you've zippered, you're hacked, When the enhancement script side gets updated, you can always ftp the new one over and run it.



couldn't I pull the drive and hack over it with any new updated "Zipper", I thought of that just right now?
also, can't things in the hard drive be deleted? is that called formatting? thanks again

[Gunnyman]

that's my point there's no reason to do that.
The networked DTivo need never to be hacked in your PC again.
You use FTP to keep things updated.

[bnm81002]

that's my point there's no reason to do that.
The networked DTivo need never to be hacked in your PC again.
You use FTP to keep things updated.



oh ok,
I was confused reading your post before, now I understand what you was saying, it's the "Enhancement Scripts" that would be updated but not "The Zipper", see many problems are do to not reading correctly, like I said before in my post ;)

[mikehome]

Orighty then.... b4 I dive in here on da zipper.

1. If I have a 2 drive system (2 - 250 giggers)... I need only pull the master for the zipper hack? Correct?

2. And just to make sure..... Should I or Not plug in the phone line?

3. And almost last but not least....... I can get updates via supported network adapter ( still have my hardwired USB from my standalone)

4. Any recommendations on a standalone tivo that wont require an eprom update so I can use MRV between the 2 tivos (after zippering both of course). Figured I'd pick one up on fleabay if MRV between the 2 is a reality :confused:

[Gunnyman]

1.) right, the 1st part of the zipper doesn't touch MFS unless you don't have 6.2 yet so just the master drive is needed. If you are starting from scratch with 2 BLANK HD's use instantcake on them 1st. It has provisions in software for marrying the drives. just skip the image your drive portions of the zipper instructions.
2.) No need for the phone line unless you want caller ID
3.) Updates come over the Sats. There is NO reason for the unit to "phone hom" in fact the hack prevents it.
4.) Not as well versed on Standalone models as I'd like to be, but I think if you avoid teh tivo branded Nighlight units you will be ok. You won't be zippering it. Zipper is for S2Dtivo only, you will be hacking it manually. Just realize you will have to have a subscription on it. you might be better off buying another DTivo (as long as it's not an R10) on Ebay. I don't THINK it has to be subbed to work as an MRV station.

[bnm81002]

ok have a problem copying the "superpatch-67all" and the "set-mrv" to the tools disk, when I extracted the files of the superpatch-67all.tar, I get the 2 files as "TCL file" and not "winRAR archive", what do I need to do to correct this? thanks

[F1 Fan]

ok i finally got it to go through without any errors,but when i plug the hdd in the tivo it just sits on the Welcome.... screen any inputs its appriciated.

Thanks

[Gunnyman]

ok have a problem copying the "superpatch-67all" and the "set-mrv" to the tools disk, when I extracted the files of the superpatch-67all.tar, I get the 2 files as "TCL file" and not "winRAR archive", what do I need to do to correct this? thanks

I'm gonna have russ remove that dang screenshot :p
if it says tcl file that's what you need.

[Gunnyman]

ok i finally got it to go through without any errors,but when i plug the hdd in the tivo it just sits on the Welcome.... screen any inputs its appriciated.

Thanks

I'll ask again, did you use the kernel from the 5 dollar PTV boot disk?

[summerall]

I'm ready to burn my "Tools CD" and there is one thing that doesn't look right in the CD directory structure. According to the screen shot in the zipper installation instructions the "000001" file is 87,824 KB however my "000001" file is 280,398 KB. Why are these files different sizes??? I got my 000001 file from the $20 Instantcake CD in the _IMAGES folder.

[Gunnyman]

dang screenshot! Has caused more questions than any thing else.
Your instant cake image size will be different depending on which DTivo you have. It's fine.

[F1 Fan]

no i got the kernel from an EMule link that i got from the DealData... guys,its not about the $5 hell my hobbys have cost me alot more money then that,i just rather not use CCs online.

[summerall]

Ahh, ok that makes sense now. I know that SS is causing you headaches but to me it was very, very helpful.

[rbautch]

I'm rather fond of the screenshot. :p

[Gunnyman]

no i got the kernel from an EMule link that i got from the ************ guys,its not about the $5 hell my hobbys have cost me alot more money then that,i just rather not use CCs online.
they take paypal
like I have been TRYING to tell you. The BOOT CD has known working kernels.

[bnm81002]

I'm gonna have russ remove that dang screenshot :p
if it says tcl file that's what you need.



ok just wanted to make sure, cause when I try to open the 2 files with winrar, it wouldn't open up? what would I need to open the 2 files? I wanna make sure there were no problems with the downloads, the tivotools, InstantCake image and S2 3.1.5 kernel were fine, thanks again

[Gunnyman]

the two files are .tcl files.
They are just scripts
once you unpack setmrvname and superpatch from teh .zip file, you just copy them to your cd.

[kramerboy]

If you really want to see what inside, you can open those .tcl files up in Metapad or some other Unix capable text editor. Once they are open, you can look at the script to see what is being done when they are executed. You can also do this for the .sh files as well.

For me, looking inside these scripts has been a great learning experience to see what is being done "behind the scenes"when they are run.

Excellent work Gunny and rbautch!!!

[bnm81002]

ok thanks guys, just wanna make sure before I burn a CD, I'd rather just burn 1 correct CD than burning several CD's if wrong things were in the tools disk, thanks again, I can't sleep, this Zipper has got me all fired up :p

[adavidw]

Wow. After putting off this project for over a year, I finally gathered my wits about me and fully hacked a DSR7000 yesterday! So today, I look and see "Hacking your Series 2 DTivo just got a WHOLE lot easier..." Ranksarot. You couldn't have bumped this up by a day? Sheesh.

Nah, I'm just kidding. I followed your unguide and then did rbautch's script when I did my hacking yesterday, and it went really smoothly. I think I've got a better understanding of things from having to go through step by step, so I'm better prepared for when something goes wrong. So, thanks a ton for the unguide, and I'll be sure to use the zipper on my next TiVo.

-Aaron

[Gunnyman]

Day late and a Dollar short eh?

[stevecon]

I'm anxious to try this out but.. I'm extremely well versed with DOS, but Linux is suffers from "Operator Headspace" I've got Fedora Core 4 and am lost.. Needless to say, the Zipper sounds like it shouldn't be problematic, but if you know me - you know that troubles *finds* me. ::sigh::
What about other Network adapters? I'd like to use wireless types, but the only one supported is the Linky 11M type, I'd think that there'd be excessive file xfer time between Tivos. Is there no demand for a wireless 54M type?. The cost of getting cat5 cable everywhere is prohibitive.

[Gunnyman]

steve, at this time the problem with wireless G is Linux.
There are only a handfull of wireless G adapater chipsets with Linux drivers.
Those drivers have yet to be incorporated into any TiVo software besides 7.x and users are reporting not much faster than B speeds.
Now onto Wireless on 6.2. 6.2 software does not have the configuration screens that allow you to enter SSID and encryption keys. You CAN use wireless B on 6.2 but you have to configure it in Tivoweb using a wired adapter 1st.
What is becoming a very popular solution is a wired USB adapter like the netgear FA120 run into a wireless bridge. I'm using Mortorola Bridges in my setup and I get very nice MRV transfer speeds.

[rbautch]

There is a list of compatible wireless adapters on the Tivo website. Only the 802.11b adapters will work with 6.2, or you can use a wired adapter with a wireless bridge as described in many posts on TCF. On the left side of the Zipper website, there's a link to instructions on setting up wireless on 6.2 with a wireless usb adapter. The catch is that you need a serial cable or wired adapter initially to run the script that sets up wireless. A future version of the Zipper may change that. The 802.11b adapters work fine for me as far as speed. I can initiate a trasfer from one Tivo to another, and begin watching it immediately. By the time the first commercials roll around, I've built up enough buffer to skip through them. I use an MA111 and WUSB11.

[summerall]

Few quick questions...

The hard drive I'll run zipper on was previously installed in a winxp box as the main C: drive. I've pulled it out of haven't done a thing to it. Will this drive be OK to use? Do I have to prep it in any way before I run the zipper instructions? It is a 7200 WD 60 gig drive.

One of the enhancement scripts installs USB 2.0 drivers. What are the benefit of these drivers? Should I install them if I only plan to run only a WIRED network? I'll be using a Linksys 100TX usb adapter.

Thanks

[rbautch]

Hard drive is fine, no prep necessary. USB 2.0 drivers increase the speed of MRV transfers and video extraction (which can't be discussed further here). They are only useful on wired connections, since the 802.11b wireless speeds limit the speed on wireless connections.

[Gunnyman]

well USB 1.1 is what 11 megabit?
USB 2.0 is much faster, so unless you are going to be wired, or using a wired connection into a wireless G bridge, there's no need for 2.0 drivers, but there's no harm in installing them either since 2.0 will fall back to 1.1 if it needs to.
and your 60 gig XP drive will be fine since the image install will totally wipe the drive.
Just be aware the 7200 RPM drives run hotter than 5400 rpm ones.

[Gunnyman]

lol rbautch we keep smeeking each other :p

[kramerboy]

edit: Wow... everyone types way faster than me!

[merlincc]

Just wanted to give you guys kudo's for this. The last year and a half have been a blast for me with all the hacking, testing, rehacking, screwing up and rehacking again. I wouldn't have missed it for anything since I learned so much in the process. I suggest anyone who wants to learn about the behind the scenes stuff do it the old way and have fun. If you screw it up you always have "The Zipper" to make things right.

Awesome job!

[Zeeland49464]

Can I use the Zipper to enable my DVR40 to see the rest of the 160GB drive I added already? At present it sees only 137GB. How would I do that otherwise?

[Gunnyman]

zeeland,
the only way to get the full 160 gigs is to start from scratch blanking out the drive and losing recordings.

[rbautch]

Looking at Gunny's avatar and hearing him say over and over again, "You must try my Zipper, go ahead you won't be disappointed" :eek: Thanks for the idea. :)

[Gunnyman]

touch my monkey
touch him LOVE HIM!

[fonzarelli]

Zipper was very easy to use. I was finished in under an hour last night.

My Tivo is rebooting quite a bit now. I used the kernel from the "$5 CD" and followed your instructions. I've included a text doc with my running processes. Is it normal to have that many duplicate processes running?

Please let me know if you would like more info.

Thanks again.

[luken8628]

I have been looking at hacking a tivo for the past month now and actually made the mistake of using the 4.x hack, not realizing that 6.2 was hackable. I have a Hughes Directivo and want to enable HMO features. Will the zipper do that for me?

[Gunnyman]

your ps output looks normal.
What's going on when tivo reboots?
Restarting Tivowebplus can trigger a reboot.

[Gunnyman]

I have been looking at hacking a tivo for the past month now and actually made the mistake of using the 4.x hack, not realizing that 6.2 was hackable. I have a Hughes Directivo and want to enable HMO features. Will the zipper do that for me?
yes

[luken8628]

thanks for the prompt response, i will apply the hack tonight and let you know the status

[rbautch]

Arthur,

Duplicate processes are normal, frequent reboots are not. There's nothing in the script that would cause this. Even if your drive was working fine before, a switch to a newly active partition when the Zipper ran could be exposing a problem with the drive. I suggest giving it a few days to see if the reboots stop. If you have a spare drive, try running the Zipper on it to confirm that the problem is indeed the drive. You could also try to run the drive manufacturer's diagnostics on it. Latly, check your logs in Tivowebplus (kernel log, tvlog) to see if there's anything that might indicate a HD or other problem.

[fonzarelli]

Thank you both for the quick responses. I'll check the logs tonight. I did notice the hard drive was very active last night (and noisy).

I had two 120 gig drives in the machine before, running the sleeper hack. It was crashing on me about once a day. I was blaming the hacks when it may have been a drive problem all along. Now I'm glad that I only put one drive back in...

Thanks again,

AF

[jed5426]

nice work gunny....any plans for a script to work with 4.0.1b hacked to 6.2 via slices?

[Gunnyman]

do you mean a script that will slice from 4.01b to 6.2 for you?

[rbautch]

If you already hacked it with slices, then just use the enhancement script in my signature. If you meant hacking from 4.01b to 6.2 with a new script, then no, there are no plans to do that (I doubt it's even possible). It's just a easy to start over and re-image the drive with the Zipper. If you want to save your recordings, extract or MRV them to another Tivo (which can be had for $35). If you want to preserve your season passes, make a backup using TWP, and then restore them after you install 6.2.

[stevecon]

steve, at this time the problem with wireless G is Linux.
There are only a handfull of wireless G adapater chipsets with Linux drivers.
Those drivers have yet to be incorporated into any TiVo software besides 7.x and users are reporting not much faster than B speeds.
Now onto Wireless on 6.2. 6.2 software does not have the configuration screens that allow you to enter SSID and encryption keys.

Hey Gun - thanks for the info. I guess I'll have to try it. I suppose when drivers are available for G series wireless adapters, I'll be able to telnet them in - right?

Wireless bridges.. hmm is that an AP - or something else?

Thanks!

[stevecon]

There is a list of compatible wireless adapters on the Tivo website. Only the 802.11b adapters will work with 6.2, or you can use a wired adapter with a wireless bridge as described in many posts on TCF. On the left side of the Zipper website, there's a link to instructions on setting up wireless on 6.2 with a wireless usb adapter. The catch is that you need a serial cable or wired adapter initially to run the script that sets up wireless. A future version of the Zipper may change that. The 802.11b adapters work fine for me as far as speed. I can initiate a trasfer from one Tivo to another, and begin watching it immediately. By the time the first commercials roll around, I've built up enough buffer to skip through them. I use an MA111 and WUSB11.

Thanks - good info to know. I'm gonna have to check this out myself - soon.

[Gunnyman]

Hey Gun - thanks for the info. I guess I'll have to try it. I suppose when drivers are available for G series wireless adapters, I'll be able to telnet them in - right?

Wireless bridges.. hmm is that an AP - or something else?

Thanks!
A Bridge connects wireless networks togther while a WAP extends a network.
I'm sure there are more technical explanations out there, but I'm not a network geek :D

[fonzarelli]

your ps output looks normal.
What's going on when tivo reboots?
Restarting Tivowebplus can trigger a reboot.

sorry, I missed the question. The last reboot occurred while I was sleeping. It crashed about 8 hours before that while I was watching a recorded show. I think rbautch is on to something with the HD. I'll try another drive tonight. Thanks for the help and all the work you guys have done on this.

[Sleeper]

It has been a while since I peered into the Tivo Hacking Forums.

I am glad to see that someone is following in my footsteps. I am certain that some will trash you guys for becoming "Glory Whores" when your only intention is to HELP others easily hack their Tivos. For this you are to be commended.

The Knoppix-Lite ISO that I created could be used as an alternate to the PTV disk. It has a very small footprint, LBA48 Tivo compiled kernel and many of the Series 2 tools. You could also automate you script to start as I did with TivoScripts. If you search around you should be able to find a download site for it.

Regards,


Sleeper

[Gunnyman]

Thanks Sleeper!
Your ISO was certainly our inspiration.

[rbautch]

Thank you Sleeper! High praise indeed coming from a legend like yourself.

[bnm81002]

hey guys,
is there anyway that you can shrink the webpage? it's hard to print it out, the edges are cut off(portrait version) and the first page is scrambled(landscape version) thanks guys

[rbautch]

I assume you are talking about printing the instructions. A very good idea...I'd add a downloadable Word or text file you can print.

[bnm81002]

I assume you are talking about printing the instructions. A very good idea...I'd add a downloadable Word or text file you can print.



oops, yes that's what I was referring to, sorry bout that, thanks
you guys did a tremendous job with the Zipper :)

[luken8628]

ok i just used the zipper to hack my directivo, it was very easy to use, however i have a few questions. When i reinstalled the new hdd after using the zipper. tivo prompted me with an error 51. What can i do to solve this. and next when i bought the instantcake cd i bought the one meant for my hughes directivo like the zipper guide said, but after applying the zipper to the hdd i dont see any network settings to be able connect the tivo to my network for ftp, telenet etc. was i supposed to buy an image for a standalone s2 tivo in order to apply this hack on a directivo?

[summerall]

I need some help...

I connect cdrom as hda and harddrive as hdc.

Insert PTV boot cd and boot from it.

> Please press "F1-F6" for more instructions blah blah or hit <enter> to boot.

I press ENTER

> Please hit <enter> to continue!

I press ENTER again

>PTVupgrade/#

I assume is this the scary looking prompt and so replace cd's with the Tools cd and I type:

mount /dev/hda/cdrom

Then I press ENTER

>mount: can't find /dev/hda/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab


Help what am I doing wrong???

[luken8628]

mount /dev/hda/cdrom

Then I press ENTER

>mount: can't find /dev/hda/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab


you need a space in there it should read:
mount /dev/hda /cdrom

[Gunnyman]

ok i just used the zipper to hack my directivo, it was very easy to use, however i have a few questions. When i reinstalled the new hdd after using the zipper. tivo prompted me with an error 51. What can i do to solve this. and next when i bought the instantcake cd i bought the one meant for my hughes directivo like the zipper guide said, but after applying the zipper to the hdd i dont see any network settings to be able connect the tivo to my network for ftp, telenet etc. was i supposed to buy an image for a standalone s2 tivo in order to apply this hack on a directivo?

to get rid of error 51, telnet in and run 51killer.tcl
as for your 2nd question, there aren't any network setup screens in 6.2
BUT, the excellent tivoweb install included in the Zipper has the netconfig module built in.
Just make sure you are running DHCP.

[luken8628]

alright, so in order to telnet to my tivo i have to find the ip from the router.

[Gunnyman]

correct
your router should have a dhcp table in there someplace

[summerall]

gunny -

I've hacked my drive but before I put it in my tivo should the jumper be set to anything in particular?

Thanks

[rbautch]

ok i just used the zipper to hack my directivo, it was very easy to use, however i have a few questions. When i reinstalled the new hdd after using the zipper. tivo prompted me with an error 51. What can i do to solve this. and next when i bought the instantcake cd i bought the one meant for my hughes directivo like the zipper guide said, but after applying the zipper to the hdd i dont see any network settings to be able connect the tivo to my network for ftp, telenet etc. was i supposed to buy an image for a standalone s2 tivo in order to apply this hack on a directivo?When you ran tweak.sh, it should have said: "No network parameters found in MFS. Do you want to enter them now? "
This is the place to enter the IP address of your Tivo and router. Or, you can use TWP after the fact.

[Gunnyman]

gunny -

I've hacked my drive but before I put it in my tivo should the jumper be set to anything in particular?

Thanks
Set it as master. It should work fine

[rbautch]

6.2 software does not have the configuration screens that allow you to enter (wireless) SSID and encryption keys. You CAN use wireless B on 6.2 but you have to configure it in Tivoweb using a wired adapter 1st. You cannot set wireless params from scratch using TWP/wired adapter. What DOES work is the wireless script in my signature. After you set up wireless params with the script, you can modify them in TWP.

[Gunnyman]

thanks rbautch I had forgotten that

[redplanet]

weird question:

I bought a dsr7000 from someone but I am a dish subscriber. thought to buy dsr7000 so that I can play with it.

que:
1. can I input the dsr7000 from dish receiver via s-video or composite and record the events. ofcourse after hacking.
2. also, can I schedule to record future events for 10-15 hours. I beleive dsr will let me record ~30hrs with 40g.
3. If 1 and 2 is good can I output the recorded to some media for permanent save.

Please, help the needy.

-mars

[Gunnyman]

nope
a Directv Tivo will ONLY work with DTV.

[bnm81002]

I assume you are talking about printing the instructions. A very good idea...I'd add a downloadable Word or text file you can print.



by tomorrow this would be done? very anxious to get started in hacking my unit :)

[redplanet]

thanks much.

So, what would be the best use of this unit for me? I guess I can still hack it to get the kick out of it.

-mars

[JediKnight2]

DANG...right after I bought the PTVNet CD, PTV Boot...I even ended up buying the InstantCake CD JUST TO MAKE SURE I always had a virgin 6.2 install...One ? about InstantCake if anyone knows...is there any difference between the DSR7000 and DSR704 version of InstantCake...those are the two Phillips DVR's I have..

I am going to hack my 7000 after I get the 704 up and running and will try the Zipper method on this one just to see the difference...

THANKS for the hard work..!!

[luken8628]

ok, i never got to the step to run tweak.sh because im not sure how to telnet to my tivo without wireless network. Do i have to directly wire it to my computer in order to run this script?

[Redux]

Set it as master. It should work fine

Yes.

Some drives have a setting for master with and without slave, also a cable select. Every new Tivo drive I have ever seen comes set for cable select.

My preference is not to use the cable select, just straight master ("single without slave" if that's an option), based on purely anecdotal experience, but with hundreds of drives.

BTW you'e been nominated for the JJBliss "NOT blessed by any means" Guide award. Quite an honor, congrats!

[Gunnyman]

ok, i never got to the step to run tweak.sh because im not sure how to telnet to my tivo without wireless network. Do i have to directly wire it to my computer in order to run this script?
wired network usb/ethernet adapter into a router.

[Gunnyman]

Yes.

Some drives have a setting for master with and without slave, also a cable select. Every new Tivo drive I have ever seen comes set for cable select.

My preference is not to use the cable select, just straight master ("single without slave" if that's an option), based on purely anecdotal experience, but with hundreds of drives.

BTW you'e been nominated for the JJBliss "NOT blessed by any means" Guide award. Quite an honor, congrats!

Hmm
I've not seen any mentionof us on DDB yet.
Hope it stays that way.

[rbautch]

DANG...right after I bought the PTVNet CD, PTV Boot...I even ended up buying the InstantCake CD JUST TO MAKE SURE I always had a virgin 6.2 install...One ? about InstantCake if anyone knows...is there any difference between the DSR7000 and DSR704 version of InstantCake...those are the two Phillips DVR's I have..

I am going to hack my 7000 after I get the 704 up and running and will try the Zipper method on this one just to see the difference...

THANKS for the hard work..!!There are differences between the different flavors of Instantcake and 6.2 software images. They are pretty subtle, and you shouldn't have any trouble using them interchangeably.

[F1 Fan]

ok im back and succesfull it work great This Zipper script helped alot and even though it made things easy for us newbies its still help me understand what i was doing :up: This is great :up:Thank you

ok i pull the 120GB hd of the tivo and put it away,i then grabbed an 160GB hd follow the Zipper instruction and was able to load 6.2 image,3.1.5kernel, and all the hacks,my system info screen says account in good standing,but is asking me to make a call so i can use the DVR options,any idea what should i do?be easy on me im a newbie


Thanks

[rbautch]

See post 112.

[F1 Fan]

Thanks,I whent there Im not running SP2 so i guess i cant telnet,i connected a usb/ethernet adapter but no sign of life,

BTW thanks for the quick responce

[rbautch]

Did you connect your Tivo to your router? Check the router to see the IP address that was assigned to your Tivo? I added more information on network setup to the Zipper instructions just now. Have a look at the last few steps.

[rbautch]

There is now a printable set of instructions included on the tools disk download.

[bnm81002]

There is now a printable set of instructions included on the tools disk download.



this is EXCELLENT, just wondering why you couldn't adjust the Zipper website itself to be printable? great job as always, thank you :up:

[F1 Fan]

Did you connect your Tivo to your router? Check the router to see the IP address that was assigned to your Tivo? I added more information on network setup to the Zipper instructions just now. Have a look at the last few steps.



wow got eveything connected whent to my DHCP table found my ip,executed the script and picked my choices and done now i whent to your sig for the wireless script and im a litle confused about installing it,would you mind telling me which way you recommend,im still connected to the tivo through the usb/ethernet adapter,should i run the sh net-launch.sh or go straight to tivosh setSSIDwep.tcl command?I also have a NetGear WG111 wireless adapter if that helps(with the right serial #)

BTW this is awsome i got everything in :D :D :D

Thank You :up:

[rbautch]

wow got eveything connected whent to my DHCP table found my ip,executed the script and picked my choices and done now i whent to your sig for the wireless script and im a litle confused about installing it,would you mind telling me which way you recommend,im still connected to the tivo through the usb/ethernet adapter,should i run the sh net-launch.sh or this tivosh setSSIDwep.tcl command?I also have a NetGear WG111 wireless adapter if that helps(with the right serial #)

BTW this is awsome i got everything in :D :D :D

Thank You :up:Tivosh setSSIDweb.tcl would be appropriate if you already set your static IP parmaters with the tweak script. However your WG111 is not compatible with 6.2. Read this (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=263213) and this (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=242642&page=2&pp=30) .

[F1 Fan]

ok,I also have the Lynksys game adapter the WGA54G can i use this one with this script?
BTW i whent with DHCP not static,is that ok?


Thanks

[F1 Fan]

ok i did it,Im using the WGA54G wireless adapter with 802.11g and its working great.Want to thank you guys for all you help specially rbautch and Gunnyman you guys are great fast answers and give us the rookie a chance to do this.

Thanks guys

[stevecon]

Do I need a version specific "Instantcake" for each model Directivo I have? It looks like I have to choose the model Tivo I am hacking on the purchase page, is this right??

I guess the *larger* question is: Are there any files/drivers/apps/etc that I have to get that *is* Tivo model specific?

If I read this right, I can use the original drive in my Tivo (saving the cost of purchasing a new drive) w/o worry *if* I have an "InstantCake" disk - right?

Thanks

[Gunnyman]

steve, I always recomend getting a new HD to anyone hacking a TiVo.
Put the old one in a drawer in case you need it.
But yes, you can instantcake back to a factory drive as long as you are using the instantcake specific to your DTivo model.
As for what the differences are between instantcakes, they are subtle, but mostly the different installs are available based on factory HD sizes, for instance a DVR80 image will not fit on a DVR40 unit. The other error you will run into is what is known as a 51 error, basically the unit notices it is running the wrong software. 51killer.tcl in /busybox fixes that problem.

[JediKnight2]

NOT that Im picky...cause you guys are AWESOME for doing this...but...one typo

cd/
should be
cd /

;)

[luken8628]

wired network usb/ethernet adapter into a router.

Thanks will try tonight and let you know status

[willardcpa]

Yes.

Some drives have a setting for master with and without slave, also a cable select. Every new Tivo drive I have ever seen comes set for cable select.

My preference is not to use the cable select, just straight master ("single without slave" if that's an option), based on purely anecdotal experience, but with hundreds of drives.

BTW you'e been nominated for the JJBliss "NOT blessed by any means" Guide award. Quite an honor, congrats!
Yeah, but Gunny and Russ won't be at "Legend Level" until the Guide gets "deprecated" :D

[Gunnyman]

Sleeper has weighed in here and that's all the validation I need :p

[fonzarelli]

The new drive is up, no crashes in 12 hours. Thanks yet again!

[JWThiers]

There is now a printable set of instructions included on the tools disk download.
Looks great, but Gunny's favorite screenshot isn't in it. You Guys ROCK. I truly wish that the folks over at the other forum were as NooB freindly as you guys are. Thanks alot for all the help. :up: :up: :up:

[Gunnyman]

Fonzie! YAY! Now go jump a shark or something :p
JW, We aim to please!

[tsunami]

In my humble opinion, the greatest thing about "The Zipper" is the peace of mind of knowing you are never more than a drive to Best Buy away, and about 5 mins of answering Y or N to a restored TiVO.
Ganted, if your hard drive crashes, you do lose programs, but you will be back recording before Gunnyman can scold you for editing rc.sysint.author in Windows notepad.
Thanks guys, great job.

[JediKnight2]

Because we all know "editing rc.sysint.author in Windows notepad" = NO WORKEY!! :D I might have to sit down after my DTivo is done and come up with a NO WORKEY FAQ!

[c0met]

Great post guys.....and great work also; you two deserve a lot of credit...
i just have one question....after i zippered my 250 gb drive and installed it in the tivo and it goes thru the guided setup...it then goes to channel 201 (the info channel) and then i change it to another channel....it says "you have inserted the wrong access card " and gives me the card no. and it is the same card that i have ...i only have one......i didnt telnet into it yet, i stopped after that and wondered what was the problem....any ideas?

[Gunnyman]

c0met,
try calling 1800 directv and when it asks if you have a 3 digit code on your screen punch in 711.
this will send an automated re-authorization to your Tivo.
Do you have access to your "Now Playing" list?
if not, telnet in and run 51killer.tcl and reboot the unit.

[mikehome]

Great Job Guys!!!!!!!! Just finished running zipper and enhancements on my Tivo! It went flawless. My Hard wired USB adapter works great. I luv my Tivo again.


Seriously. Thanks again! :up:

[Gunnyman]

way to go mike

[rbautch]

....after i zippered my 250 gb drive and installed it in the tivo...Now I know it's a success. We have the first use of "Zipper" as a verb. ;)

[Gunnyman]

thhus it begins :D

[rbautch]

NOT that Im picky...cause you guys are AWESOME for doing this...but...one typo

cd/
should be
cd /

;)Good catch. Fixed.

[mikehome]

After getting zipper and enhancements done.... I connected to Web plus and noticed that cron scheduler isn't running. Does it need to be? Don't recall it asking if I wanted it running but just to install

TY

[luken8628]

how do i get this usb ethernet thing to work, i plugged it in and hooked up the wires but the tivo isnt getting an ip assigned.

EDIT:
Nevermind i just was doing some searching and found out that the linksys adapter i bought is incompatable, just my luck right lol. Well now im off to circuit city to buy a different one.

[rbautch]

how do i get this usb ethernet thing to work, i plugged it in and hooked up the wires but the tivo isnt getting an ip assigned.

EDIT:
Nevermind i just was doing some searching and found out that the linksys adapter i bought is incompatable, just my luck right lol. Well now im off to circuit city to buy a different one.I doubt Circuit City has a compatible 802.11b adapter. You may need an older model, best obtained from Ebay. Check out the links in post 137 for more info.

[rbautch]

After getting zipper and enhancements done.... I connected to Web plus and noticed that cron scheduler isn't running. Does it need to be? Don't recall it asking if I wanted it running but just to install

TYCron is probably running, but perhaps Hackman didn't pick it up. Type "ps" at bash, and look toward the bottom to see if "crond" is one of the processes that are currently running. You could also open the logs that are in /var/spool/cron/cronlogs to see if cron is working. There is more info on cron in the Enhancement script thread. There is also information on getting Hackman to find your hacks in the Hackman thread.

[Gunnyman]

I doubt Circuit City has a compatible 802.11b adapter. You may need an older model, best obtained from Ebay. Check out the links in post 137 for more info.

I highly recomend the Netgear FA120
nice USB / ethernet adapter

[bnm81002]

how do i get this usb ethernet thing to work, i plugged it in and hooked up the wires but the tivo isnt getting an ip assigned.

EDIT:
Nevermind i just was doing some searching and found out that the linksys adapter i bought is incompatable, just my luck right lol. Well now im off to circuit city to buy a different one.




find one that has an orange and white CD icon on the side of the box, which means it is version 1, no CD icon means version 2(these doesn't work with the Tivo and DTivo units)

[rbautch]

I highly recomend the Netgear FA120
nice USB / ethernet adapterMy bad. I got wireless on the brain.

[rbautch]

find one that has an orange and white CD icon on the side of the box, which means it is version 1, no CD icon means version 2(these doesn't work with the Tivo and DTivo units)Actually, the Enhancement script's USB 2.0 driver installation adds support for the version 2 adapter. Problem is you can't connect to run the script, unless you buy a serial cable and run it from serial bash.

[JediKnight2]

I bought the FA120 for wired work, but you can find Linksys WIRELESS wusb11 versions 2.6 and 2.8 on ebay, if you are patient, for about 20 bucks plus shipping...

[bnm81002]

Actually, the Enhancement script's USB 2.0 driver installation adds support for the version 2 adapter. Problem is you can't connect to run the script, unless you buy a serial cable and run it from serial bash.



that was just a heads up for people to know which version is which, there was a HUGE problem determining the 2 versions till "TivoPony" explained the difference
but I didn't know that a serial cable was needed to run the Version 2 adapter, thought once "Jamie" updated the 2.0 driver to include V.2 that is be ok to use, thanks for the info.

[Gunnyman]

well ya need the serial cable because until you LOAD the driver, you can't use the Linksys adapter,
dang vicious circles :p
The 2.0 drivers don't get installed until the enhancement script is run

[tivoenthused]

Gunny,

This is so awesome -- can't wait to try. One question: In reference to setting network parameters in the Zipper guide, can you comment on the benfits of setting static IPs for the units vs DHCP? If I choose static IPs, will I need to disable DHCP on my router?

Also, can you explain (or point me to where) if I want to continue to use DHCP, how I go into the Netconfig module of Tivowebplus and set it to DHCP after I'm finished running the scripts?

Thanks in advance

[goony]

I assume you are talking about printing the instructions. A very good idea...I'd add a downloadable Word or text file you can print.Please, include a PDF instead of a Word .doc file (that way you control the source code of the doc) - you can make PDFs for free by using http://www.pdf995.com/

Goony

[goony]

I highly recomend the Netgear FA120
nice USB / ethernet adapterYea, if you need a wired USB adapter that one has been working great for me too.

[goony]

One question: In reference to setting network parameters in the Zipper guide, can you comment on the benfits of setting static IPs for the units vs DHCP? If I choose static IPs, will I need to disable DHCP on my router?Static IP means that your Tivo box will always have the same address and will never change... thus, when you access it with your web browser you know the address it will be at. If you have a static IP address set in your Tivo it will never ask for an address via DHCP. You can leave DHCP enabled on your router so other devices (like PCs or networked game boxes) can get an IP address if they need one.

DHCP permits the automatic assignment of an IP address for a device that doesn't have a static one. If your Tivo (or PC) doesn't have an IP address it will make a request on the local network and (usually) your router acting as a DHCP server will hand out an address beginning at some starting point, e.g. 192.168.0.100. The next DHCP address that would be handed out would be 192.168.0.101.

Nothing wrong with DHCP, except that if your Tivo were off the network for a while (say a few days) and then was re-connected there is no guarantee that your router would hand out the Tivo's original IP address again (maybe it gave the old Tivo address out to a new PC or Playstation on your home net)... if it gave out a different one than what was used before then you'd have to figure out what the new IP address the Tivo was using.

[Redux]

In another lifetime I was one of the so-called Sleeper "fanboys", so my compliments to you guys have to be taken in the context of a populist rather than as one of the guardian priesthood of the sacred secrets.

You are real educators, tutors, and your process will teach much to many who would otherwise not be able to get a handle on the subject matter. An awful lot of people who get their start from guides/scripts like this become technically proficient developers/educators in their own right. You will be the spark for arousing curiosity and creativity, particularly among some kids, that may go far beyond the specific subject matter of the Tivo. But be warned that some of these same people may turn on you once they've gone beyond the introductory stage and decided to join the priesthood.

In any case there is one thing that bothers me about nearly all the approaches to manually upgrading DTivos to 6.2. There are subtle differences in the 6.2 OS, not only among Tivo make/model numbers, but among Tivo service number versions _within_ a specific make/model #.

I've not been able to pin down anything specific in the code, but among the many of my own DTivos and those I help friends out with there are differences in performance and dependability that I can't otherwise account for, and am beginning to suspect result from these subtleties.

I am coming to the view that the only safe 6.2 image for a particular DTivo is one that has been updated by Tivo. I'm suggesting, to those who can do it, to obtain an image not only specific to their DTivo but specific to the service number. One way is to install an earlier (valid) OS and wait for the receiver to update naturally, then start with that. Another is to beg for a very specific image.

Your whole process would remain intact for those heeding my suspicion, they would just be very careful as to the image going in.

As I say, this is just a suspicion, I'd be interested in your view.

[stevecon]

I bought the FA120 for wired work, but you can find Linksys WIRELESS wusb11 versions 2.6 and 2.8 on ebay, if you are patient, for about 20 bucks plus shipping...


Brand NEW Linky WUSB11 from Amazon.com $9.99 after rebate & free shipping. Expires 10/24/05

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005AW1H/104-0331040-6325576

[Gunnyman]

Gunny,

This is so awesome -- can't wait to try. One question: In reference to setting network parameters in the Zipper guide, can you comment on the benfits of setting static IPs for the units vs DHCP? If I choose static IPs, will I need to disable DHCP on my router?

Also, can you explain (or point me to where) if I want to continue to use DHCP, how I go into the Netconfig module of Tivowebplus and set it to DHCP after I'm finished running the scripts?

Thanks in advance
DHCP is enabled by deault
The only benefit to static, is always knowing where your tivo is.

[Gunnyman]

In another lifetime I was one of the so-called Sleeper "fanboys", so my compliments to you guys have to be taken in the context of a populist rather than as one of the guardian priesthood of the sacred secrets.

You are real educators, tutors, and your process will teach much to many who would otherwise not be able to get a handle on the subject matter. An awful lot of people who get their start from guides/scripts like this become technically proficient developers/educators in their own right. You will be the spark for arousing curiosity and creativity, particularly among some kids, that may go far beyond the specific subject matter of the Tivo. But be warned that some of these same people may turn on you once they've gone beyond the introductory stage and decided to join the priesthood.

In any case there is one thing that bothers me about nearly all the approaches to manually upgrading DTivos to 6.2. There are subtle differences in the 6.2 OS, not only among Tivo make/model numbers, but among Tivo service number versions _within_ a specific make/model #.

I've not been able to pin down anything specific in the code, but among the many of my own DTivos and those I help friends out with there are differences in performance and dependability that I can't otherwise account for, and am beginning to suspect result from these subtleties.

I am coming to the view that the only safe 6.2 image for a particular DTivo is one that has been updated by Tivo. I'm suggesting, to those who can do it, to obtain an image not only specific to their DTivo but specific to the service number. One way is to install an earlier (valid) OS and wait for the receiver to update naturally, then start with that. Another is to beg for a very specific image.

Your whole process would remain intact for those heeding my suspicion, they would just be very careful as to the image going in.

As I say, this is just a suspicion, I'd be interested in your view.

From what Lou at PTV Upgrade has told us, Instantcake images ARE model specific thus TSN specific since the last 3 digits if the TSN indiicate Tivo Model.
Thanks for the words of praise and the concern though, and you are correct, the BEST way to get this done is if your unit already has 6.2 on it MOST people have 6.2 now. The other thing that everyone should do, is use a different hard drive and put the factory drive away someplace in case of failure.

[JediKnight2]

Brand NEW Linky WUSB11 from Amazon.com $9.99 after rebate & free shipping. Expires 10/24/05

AHH, but the new version of wusb11 is v.4.0 and in the great words of the wise one...version 4.0 no workey...

[Gunnyman]

I don't recall saying that :p
I do know that the Linksys USB200M 2.0 no worky (note there is no "e" in worky)
:p

[stevecon]

AHH, but the new version of wusb11 is v.4.0 and in the great words of the wise one...version 4.0 no workey...


Damn, I knew it was too good to be true. I didn't see anything about the version specifics. Bummer.

The list on Tivo.com - show adapters that work in up to version 7.x. Is the 7.x Tivo greater than the 6.2 Dtivo? I ask because on this page there is no mention of the FA120, which is reported here as working. Also, nowhere on that same page is the WUSB11!

I guess I'm confused as to what adapters work & don't. I guess the directions to the Tivo.com site list of adapters is wrong.

[rbautch]

From what Lou at PTV Upgrade has told us, Instantcake images ARE model specific thus TSN specific since the last 3 digits if the TSN indiicate Tivo Model.
Thanks for the words of praise and the concern though, and you are correct, the BEST way to get this done is if your unit already has 6.2 on it MOST people have 6.2 now. The other thing that everyone should do, is use a different hard drive and put the factory drive away someplace in case of failure.I don't think there is any difference between the images you get from Instantcake and the software downloaded directlly from Tivo. PTVupgrade knows the exact differences between model/service numbers and has tailored thier product accordingly. I highly doubt any random anomolous behavior can be attributed to having an Instancake image versus a download from Tivo. An image gotten from Emule is another matter. On the other hand, I personally have been using an image that's not meant for my Tivo for 6 months with no ill effects.

[mikehome]

As always.. thanks for the help. I had always wanted to hack my tivo, but never wanted to go through all the trouble with some of the linux scripting out there. Just didnt trust it I suppose.Zipper made it SOOOOOO painless. Ok.... enough of the brown nosing :D

1. Anyone verify that the Linksys USB111 wireless adapter works (I have 2.6)

2. Can you play the recordings from your PC, and what is the process. I seen in WebPlus viA hackman, that there was a mplayer service that you can run. Does that have anything to do with it? Maybe you could give me the steps to get this going? Thanks!

PS.. I just bought another Dtivo on ebay so I could use MRV. Sick huh

[Gunnyman]

mike, we can't talk about extarcion here sorry.

[JediKnight2]

Here you go http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2184.htm? notice v.4 has both thumbs down...meaning no worky...sorry Gunny...:)

I am going to try to get the wusb11 tested this afternoon....I have one that is version 2.6 and one that is 2.8...both have dual thumbs up from Tivo...

[mikehome]

Wasnt't taling about extraction I didnt think. I thought maybe you could play the recordings thorugh the network on Windows media player vs playing them on directly on tivo. Maybe its still consifered extraction?

[Nugent]

Followed the very well-written instructions, and everything worked perfectly up to the point of telnetting into the dtivo to run the enhancement script. Then I had a "d'oh!" moment when I realised that a wireless connection would not work. Maybe you want to add a note to "Before You Begin".

I have been happily running 4.0.1b up to now, always with a wireless usb connection. I don't have a usb-ethernet adaptor. So I guess I'll have to try to make up a cable and try a serial connection for the first time. A bit of a PITA.

Anyway, I want to add my vote of appreciation to Gunnyman and rbautch. I also firmly believe that DTV and TiVo both benefit from the availability of these enhancements.

Gunnyman, we are both in Greenville. Please PM me and I'll buy you lunch.

[ttodd1]

Wasnt't taling about extraction I didnt think. I thought maybe you could play the recordings thorugh the network on Windows media player vs playing them on directly on tivo. Maybe its still consifered extraction?

Any talk of playing files from a Tivo on anything/anyway other than on a Tivo is considered extraction. :D

[mikehome]

Gotcha...... :eek:

[Gunnyman]

Followed the very well-written instructions, and everything worked perfectly up to the point of telnetting into the dtivo to run the enhancement script. Then I had a "d'oh!" moment when I realised that a wireless connection would not work. Maybe you want to add a note to "Before You Begin".

I have been happily running 4.0.1b up to now, always with a wireless usb connection. I don't have a usb-ethernet adaptor. So I guess I'll have to try to make up a cable and try a serial connection for the first time. A bit of a PITA.

Anyway, I want to add my vote of appreciation to Gunnyman and rbautch. I also firmly believe that DTV and TiVo both benefit from the availability of these enhancements.

Gunnyman, we are both in Greenville. Please PM me and I'll buy you lunch.
Good point about the before you begin there Nugent.
Sending PM now
PS I like BBQ :p

[JediKnight2]

New 704 is just finishing its call ins and then its...hack'n time. The nice lady at DTV even let me resub a unsubbed card from the customer that unsubbed it and sold it to me....HEHEHEHehe which means that I atleast have one other card that is nice and tied to my name as well as another that was reported missing..IT WAS, about a month after DTV called me and sent out another one my neighbor came over with it..apperently his daughter checked the mail one day and it ended up under the couch......I will call and cancel the receiver its replacing later....Crossin fingers...

[dsmturbo]

Okay, I done finished "Zippering" the 1st Zippered Tivo, and I just want to say ... Awesome guys...

Where do I send paypal donation? Comeon, you need to accept more then just a Group Hug!! Maybe a donation to your favorite Charity or something.

I must admit, using the Unguide and rbautch's script took me a Heck of alot longer then the Zipper method did. A big thanks to BTUx9 as well for assistance.

I love this place, it is Noob friendly ;)

[dsmturbo]

Forgot, when can we expect the Zipper V2 for HR10-250 ?? Please

[mikehome]

Anychance someone can help me get cron to start automatically. For some reason....mine is not. I did a PS and it wasnt running, so I started it up via the Web interface. I would like it automated but I'm linux stupid. IF chron isnt running, then I suppose the reboots wouldnt work either. Wonder if those hacks made it in. Should I rerun the tweak.sh?

[rbautch]

Okay, I done finished "Zippering" the 1st Zippered Tivo, and I just want to say ... Awesome guys...

Where do I send paypal donation? Comeon, you need to accept more then just a Group Hug!! Maybe a donation to your favorite Charity or something.

I must admit, using the Unguide and rbautch's script took me a Heck of alot longer then the Zipper method did. A big thanks to BTUx9 as well for assistance.

I love this place, it is Noob friendly ;)Since Sanderton was kind enough to allow me to use EndPad(Plus) in the next version of the Enhancement script, anyone who wants to show their appreciation can make a donation to the very worthwhile charity referenced here. (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=243161)...unless you live in SC, then you can buy some BBQ for Gunnyman.

[rbautch]

Anychance someone can help me get cron to start automatically. For some reason....mine is not. I did a PS and it wasnt running, so I started it up via the Web interface. I would like it automated but I'm linux stupid. IF chron isnt running, then I suppose the reboots wouldnt work either. Wonder if those hacks made it in. Should I rerun the tweak.sh?Re-running the script won't help, unless you run the uninstall script first. Uninstall/reinstall takes about 5 minutes, and it's a very simple thing to try. Did you reboot after you ran the Enhancement script? Did you check the logs I mentioned before? (to check a log, open it with vi). You can also check the author file to see if the startup command for crond was appended as it should have been. You can also start crond manually with Hackman, or by navigating to the buysbox directory and typing "crond". There are more cron troubleshooting tips in the enhancement thread and elsewhere on TCF.

[rbautch]

Forgot, when can we expect the Zipper V2 for HR10-250 ?? Please Zipper v2 may add wireless support, but beyond that, who knows...By the way, I'm tweaking the Enhancement script already to accommodate the HR10-250.

[JediKnight2]

Up and running wirelessly with a Linksys wusb11 v2.8

[Gunnyman]

Keep the success stories coming guys!

[bnm81002]

Please, include a PDF instead of a Word .doc file (that way you control the source code of the doc) - you can make PDFs for free by using http://www.pdf995.com/

Goony



will you guys be doing this? :)

[Gunnyman]

I've sent it to Rbautch ball's in his court now :p

[rbautch]

Done.

[rbautch]

Anyone interested in testing a new Zipper feature, please PM me. You must have an image on your tools disk.

[floppy_joe]

Background:
I have a hacked dtivo hughes series 2 with 2 drives
Followed the 4.x Rid guide, learned more about linux then i ever cared to
worked great, has been for over a long time til I dared to go back to the forums and realized I could now do 6.2!
Although this time the guide (upgrading by slices) ruined everything.
Now I have 6.2 but lost networking (wireless), telnet and ftp, the best things.
I can get a bash by serial but cant seem to fix anything, whenever I try to run anything from Bash I get ugly errors ad reboots, so obviously something didnt go right. Which brings me here. The zipper sounds very simple.
Questions:
1. Can I just pull my hacked drive and follow your steps on it or format it and start blank? ( i still have the original in storage)
2. Will I still be able to have the 2nd larger drive installed with it
3. Now the real ignorance is showing, what about things like killhdinitrd and installSw.itcl, does zipper take care of all that?
4. Noticed in posts that wireless work with zipper, is there a way to set it up afterward maybe from serial?

Thank you,
its guys like me that annoy the hell out of you, but its guys like you that piss off my wife by leading me down paths I shouldnt go.

floppy_joe

[Gunnyman]

1) yes you can but be aware the best way to procede, is to use instantcake with both drives connected to your PC before you run the Zipper script you will of course lose shows.
2) see item 1
3) Zipper does do a killhdinitrd kernel for you.
4) I need Rbautch to clarify, but I don't think you can get wireless configured unless you connect first with a wired adapter.

[mikehome]

Hi all.....yes its me again. I got stupid last night and deleted the wrong file while I was FTP'd into my Tivo. Well.. long story short... My tivo wouldnt finish powering up and a reboot.

I just put a fresh 6.2 image on it with instant cake.

Question: Do I need to hook it up for a few days to talk to DTV/Tivo (update guide + have and have at least 1 sucessfull connection) before I run Zipper and enhancements again or can I go ahead and put on Zipper + enhancements.

Thanks!

At least I'm getting some practice at hacking Tivo :p

[Gunnyman]

Mike
as long as you have your channels and access to your Now Playing list, you can Zipper.

[rbautch]

4. Noticed in posts that wireless work with zipper, is there a way to set it up afterward maybe from serial? Yes, check the script in my signature. You can set up wireless easily, but you need either with a wired adapter or a serial cable to run the script. I may eliminate this requirement in the future version of the Zipper.

[JWThiers]

To make things a bit easier down the road (ie next time you use this fantastic tool 6 months from now), include the PDF instructions on the CD that way you will always have them available when you use it. :up:

Might be a good idea to include the PDF in the zip download. :D

[JediKnight2]

rbautch, Im game. I am going to zipper another drive this weekend if you need a guinea pig....

NOTE the only thing with wireless is that you have to pick a predefined WEP key and its only 64-bit....of course if you are running WEP someone could crack your 128-bit encryption just as easy...encryption and wireless protection only keep some out...if ANYONE wants in bad enough...they will find a way in..

[dsmturbo]

Since Sanderton was kind enough to allow me to use EndPad(Plus) in the next version of the Enhancement script, anyone who wants to show their appreciation can make a donation to the very worthwhile charity referenced here. (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=243161)...unless you live in SC, then you can buy some BBQ for Gunnyman.

The donation page has expired, so I donated in memory here:

https://secureccs.ca/donations/donations.aspx?div=18&lang=en

:up: You guys are the best

[dsmturbo]

Zipper v2 may add wireless support, but beyond that, who knows...By the way, I'm tweaking the Enhancement script already to accommodate the HR10-250.


For real? Wicked rbautch...I can not wait. I assume that this may enable networking, fackcall etc for Hr10-250 as well as drive support (larger) :up: :up: :up:

[rbautch]

Actually the Enhancement script only works on a Tivo that's already been hacked to allow networking. It's packaged with the Zipper to run on the Tivo after the Zipper does it's thing on the PC to allow networking. HD support for the Zipper is not yet on the table.

[bnm81002]

Anyone interested in testing a new Zipper feature, please PM me. You must have an image on your tools disk.



so Russ,
what's this new Zipper feature, do tell us, I know it has to be good, since you're involved :D

[rbautch]

so Russ,
what's this new Zipper feature, do tell us, I know it has to be good, since you're involved :DCan't say until I know it works!!

[bnm81002]

Can't say until I know it works!!


I hope it doesn't require burning a "new" Tools Disk again :(

[Dirac]

I decided to start using an R/W. :D

[mikehome]

Can ya guys give me a little more help?

I bought another DTV Tivo fromm ebay so I could do MRV. Its a Samsung 40 hr. I hooked it up and it already has 6.2 on it. I tried to access "Now Playing" after waiting for the screen looking for a satelitte signal to time out ( dont have sateliite or phone line plugged to it) . It says it needs a test call before I can access "now playing". I know I need to be able to access "now playing" b4 I can use MRV

I also tried a 80 gig hd in it that was the original drive from my 80 hr Samsung That also has 6.2 on it, as well as recorded shows. I cant access "now playing" because it says a serious error has occured and a restart is needed. This is the same error you get when you put a fresh image from instant cake on a new drive. I assume this is because the HD has some data from a the other Samsung model. If i do a clear and delete on it.... I will have to do guided setup and it will definitely want to dial up before "now playing" is accessible

What is the best way to to proceed to use MRV on this Tivo. I need to put zipper and enhancements on one of the drives, but not sure how to proceed and which drive to use

Thanks in advace.

[Gunnyman]

just pick a drive
zipper it
run 51killer.tcl from bash to get rid of that serrious error has occured message
fakecall.tcl takes care of the need to call in stuff.

[tivoenthused]

HELP!
When I created my original Zipper disk, the file named tivotools.tar was somehow renamed to tivotools[1].tar. I didn't catch this until I tried to zipper the drive. The readout told me it was unable to find the tivotools.tar file/directory..... I still got the "success!" message, but I had a feeling somethings were missed because the zipper couldn't find the tivotools.tar.

I susbequently created a new disk with the correct file name, I attempted to go through the process again (insert the PTV disk, then the zipper disk), but got the following readout (see below). Am I good to go? If not, what do I do now? huge thanks from a Linux idiot.

Here's the readout from the 2nd attempt:
Copying tivotools to busybox...
mkdir: Cannot create directory '/tivo/busybox': File exists
Disabling firewall...
mv: unable to rename '/tivo/etc/netfilter-enable': No such file or directory
Copying author file...
Creating flag for enhancements script...
Copying hacks to tivo drive...
mkdir: Cannot create directory 'tivo/hacks': File exists
Copying hacked kernal to tivo drive...
VMLINUX_.GZ 40.4% -- replaced with VMLINUX_

1+1 records in
1+1 records out

Success! Your drive is now hacked. Install in your Tivo and boot.

ANY IDEAS?

[mikehome]

Thats some of the best news I heard today...... believe me...It was a rough day at work. This is a great place to hang. You guys sure come through quickly. Thanks a million! :up:

[rbautch]

I decided to start using an R/W. :DI burned about 25 tools disks while testing the Zipper. Finally woke up and started using R/W. The problem was that I honestly believed each one would work, and would be the last one I would need. :p

[rbautch]

HELP!
When I created my original Zipper disk, the file named tivotools.tar was somehow renamed to tivotools[1].tar. I didn't catch this until I tried to zipper the drive. The readout told me it was unable to find the tivotools.tar file/directory..... I still got the "success!" message, but I had a feeling somethings were missed because the zipper couldn't find the tivotools.tar.

I susbequently created a new disk with the correct file name, I attempted to go through the process again (insert the PTV disk, then the zipper disk), but got the following readout (see below). Am I good to go? If not, what do I do now? huge thanks from a Linux idiot.

Here's the readout from the 2nd attempt:
Copying tivotools to busybox...
mkdir: Cannot create directory '/tivo/busybox': File exists
Disabling firewall...
mv: unable to rename '/tivo/etc/netfilter-enable': No such file or directory
Copying author file...
Creating flag for enhancements script...
Copying hacks to tivo drive...
mkdir: Cannot create directory 'tivo/hacks': File exists
Copying hacked kernal to tivo drive...
VMLINUX_.GZ 40.4% -- replaced with VMLINUX_

1+1 records in
1+1 records out

Success! Your drive is now hacked. Install in your Tivo and boot.

ANY IDEAS?You are good to go. This is expected behavior if you run the zipper twice.

[tivoenthused]

Just booted up in the TiVo.... all is well.... whew!!!! Thanks again, I am about start on the 2nd box.

One final TWP question: How do I access TWP from outside my network? Is it possible if I have DHCP enabled?

[rbautch]

One secure method is to use a remote access service like www.logmein.com, or the remote access feature built in to Windows XP pro.

[Gunnyman]

yes
I advise going into tivoweb.cfg and setting a username and password
after that it is as simple as going into your router and forwarding port 80 to the IP address of your tivo
to access your Tivo from the internet, you use your IP address that gets provided to you by your ISP
to find it you can use whatismyip.com

[Gunnyman]

or do what rbautch suggests :p
maybe we should take shifts Russ :D

[gfr7]

WOW you guys rock ! if i had only waited one more day maybe it wouldn't have spent 6+ hours on my upgrade ( i did the hnsdl method ) altho some of that time was my fault , i didn't realise that my sir4040 was a rid unit and then there was the dl of the instacake and tools cds.(yes i went the (somewhat grey)legal way)
keep up the great work guys

[ult4dr]

Hi Guys,

Can you tell me if these instructions work for this unit? HR10-250

Thanks

Ult4dr

[gsr]

Hi Guys,

Can you tell me if these instructions work for this unit? HR10-250

Thanks

Ult4dr

If you actually go to the zipper site, the answer to that question is in an underlined red font at the top of the web site.

[rbautch]

Nope.

[mercurial]

Glad I caught this since once my HR10-250 is upgraded, I'm starting on the SD Series 2's next week. Good work Gunnyman and rbautch! Will save me a bit of time and effor. :D

[mikehome]

All,

Thanks to everyones help, I got my subbed DTV Tivo hacked and my non subbed DTV Tivo (MRV Tivo) up and running. 1 is hardwired and the other is wireless. MRV is so awesome. I appreciate everyones help. Zipper and rbautch's enhancements script is awesome.

Just curious... Is there anyways to run my regular subbed DTV reciever through the unsubbed dtv tivo so I can watch TV and/or record on the tivo? I doubt it, but its worth to ask.

[Gunnyman]

no mike
sorry

[gfr7]

IN the 6.2 upgrade is there any advantage besides the speed?
As i said above i just finished my 4.01b upgrade.

thankyou in advance :)

[Gunnyman]

no not really except for native support of large Hard Drives
If you are happy with 4.01b on your DTivo, theres not much reason to switch IMHO.
Just be aware that hack development on 4.01b will pretty much dry up soon.

[bnm81002]

no not really except for native support of large Hard Drives
If you are happy with 4.01b on your DTivo, theres not much reason to switch IMHO.
Just be aware that hack development on 4.01b will pretty much dry up soon.




just curious, can rbautch's "scripts" be installed onto 4.01b or just 6.2 only? thanks

[Gunnyman]

I do believe the enahncement script works on 4.01b

[rbautch]

just curious, can rbautch's "scripts" be installed onto 4.01b or just 6.2 only? thanksAny Series 2 Tivo. It's a little broken for the HR10-250, but that's about to change.

[mercurial]

Any Series 2 Tivo. It's a little broken for the HR10-250, but that's about to change.

And what, pray tell, will you be able to do with an HR10-250?

[rbautch]

The HR10-250 has 3.x software, which is older than the 6.x or 7.x versions that the script has been tested on to date. Files are in different places, network settings are stored differently, etc..., all of which I have begun to adjust the script for. I'm testing things out now with the help of MisterEd, and I should have a beta version ready soon. Anyone with an HR10-250 is welcome to help me test.

Note that we are talking about the Enhancement script, not the Zipper.

[bnm81002]

Note that we are talking about the Enhancement script, not the Zipper.



curious again, why can't "The Zipper" be installed onto this unit? thanks

[rbautch]

The process for hacking it is just different...different image, kernel, more tools need to be dowloaded to the tools disk. It can be done, but I just havent gotten around to looking at it seriously yet. I'm also skeptical about the demand for this hack, since DirecTV will be replacing this unit with a new mpeg-4 version, and swapping them out for free.

[tsunami]

The process for hacking it is just different...different image, kernel, more tools need to be dowloaded to the tools disk. It can be done, but I just havent gotten around to looking at it seriously yet. I'm also skeptical about the demand for this hack, since DirecTV will be replacing this unit with a new mpeg-4 version, and swapping them out for free.

That may be true, but I would love to extend the life of my HR10-250 for a few more years. If it had all the things on it that my Series 2 has I would keep it regardless of the free upgrade.
As it is, it sits sadly waiting for me to watch one or two HD shows a week while my SD TiVO works it's tail off recording stuff left and right.

Mike

[mgmrick]

I don't know how you guys do it . Answer all the questions here and private messages on top of that. Oh by the way rbautch yours is full.

Thanks
Rick

[SteelersFan]

I think this has been discussed before in another thread and I did a search but my eyes are now glazed over from reading this entire thread in one sitting...
1) If I had three subbed (and hacked) DTivos (for MRV) and then added and hacked a fourth w/o subbing it, could I still use that box to view prerecorded shows from the other three boxes?
2) If this does work, are there any nags or other problems I would expect to encounter?

[rbautch]

1.Yes
2.No

[SteelersFan]

Thanks.
One more quick question:
I thought I read somewhere that if a box has two drives, only one (the original) needs to be pulled and hacked, true?

[rbautch]

True.

[Gunnyman]

I don't know how you guys do it . Answer all the questions here and private messages on top of that. Oh by the way rbautch yours is full.

Thanks
Rick

Caffeine

[SteelersFan]

I highly recomend the Netgear FA120
nice USB / ethernet adapter
The picture of the FA120 looks like the USB cable portion is separate. Is it? Do you have to supply your own? The description of what it comes with does not have the cable listed.

[Gunnyman]

there were cables in BOTH of mine. It's detachable.

[SteelersFan]

Thanks to both Gunny and rbautch for the quick respones. I am this close (puts thumb and index finger closely together) to getting my three boxes hacked. Anyone know where I can find a new hackable unit to add to my collection?