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oiler_head
05-29-2006, 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Gunnyman
almost always you lose locals after a zipper.

In an amazing twist of fate, I turned on the DVR and lo and behold the locals appeared all by themselves -- no call the DTV needed.

Thanks for everyone's advice and help - I'm sure I'll be back with many more questions... :up:

JamakinJoel
05-29-2006, 05:24 PM
i have the 6.2 os but its in .msf file extension and not the right thing is there anyone to make it back into the correct format for this beatuiful looking tool?

Bardman
05-29-2006, 05:37 PM
OK, I've searched this whole thread and think I know the answer to my question, but thought I'd throw it out:

I just finished zippering an HDVR2 that's been gathering dust in my basement for the past year with a brand new drive. Everything worked fine. (this unit is "replacing" another HDVR2 that dove from its resting place, mangling the access card)

the replaced unit, as well as my Family room unit are running 4.0.1b. I can't get along without MRV now. Since 6.2 is much faster than 4.0.1b, I'd like to "upgrade" my family room unit to 6.2. Is there a way to complete this while saving all recordings and SP/Wishlists? I do have a fresh 6.2 image on CD (thank you PTVupgrade)

Can I pull the drive, zipper it, upgrade the OS, choosing to save recordings and SPs (I seem to remember seeing this asked in the script), then put the now 6.2 drive back into my family room machine to finish the setup via telnet? The drive currently running 4.0.1b is not the original drive that came with the unit, but instead a 160Gb drive that I first installed the clean 4 image onto.

Any thoughts??

Gunnyman
05-29-2006, 05:41 PM
Bardman
what you want is to upgrade from 4.0 to 6.2 with SLICES.
dellanave has a great guide for doing just that at http://www.dellanave.com/projects/tivo/62slices.html

Any zipper procedure that installs a new image on the tivo will wipe the shows.

JamakinJoel
05-29-2006, 05:51 PM
or can i use the .msf file and just rename it to 0000001 on the disc or that won't work?

D'Ecosse
05-29-2006, 06:03 PM
Step 1 completed - original drive hacked (leaving original image) & re-installed & reboot
(only one little delay caused when the PC wouldn't recognize the original Tivo drive - I had assumed it would have been set to "master" but then recognized it was set for cable select; quick switch to master & all went well.)

So now system is back up & running but I can't communicate to it via telnet.
During the zip I used the default IP (192.169.1.101) and entered my SSID.

I am using an FA120 with a "G" gaming adapter on the TIVO and a WRT54G as the primary router.
I tested this configuration with my laptop which connects flawlesly to my network.
I am getting a link & can also see the TIVO IP when I test for it & can ping it successfully.

However I get an error that it cannot open a connection to the host.

What am I missing here? :confused:

C:\>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 5:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.ca.comcast.net.
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

C:\>ping 192.168.1.101

Pinging 192.168.1.101 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.101:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>telnet -t vt100 192.168.1.101
Connecting To 192.168.1.101...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23
Connect failed

rbautch
05-29-2006, 06:05 PM
or can i use the .msf file and just rename it to 0000001 on the disc or that won't work?It should work fine.

rbautch
05-29-2006, 06:09 PM
Step 1 completed - original drive hacked (leaving original image) & re-installed & reboot
(only one little delay caused when the PC wouldn't recognize the original Tivo drive - I had assumed it would have been set to "master" but then recognized it was set for cable select; quick switch to master & all went well.)

So now system is back up & running but I can't communicate to it via telnet.
During the zip I used the default IP (192.169.1.101) and entered my SSID.

I am using an FA120 with a "G" gaming adapter on the TIVO and a WRT54G as the primary router.
I tested this configuration with my laptop which connects flawlesly to my network.
I am getting a link & can also see the TIVO IP when I test for it & can ping it successfully.

However I get an error that it cannot open a connection to the host.

What am I missing here? :confused:
If you entered an SSID, that means you chose wireless networking which is not right. Your tivo thinks it is hard wired to the network. Still, if you can ping it, then the network is working fine, and the problem is likely related to a firewall. Disable any firewalls or try connecting from a different pc. You could also try connecting your laptop directly to the tivo with a crossover cable.

D'Ecosse
05-29-2006, 06:25 PM
If you entered an SSID, that means you chose wireless networking which is not right. Your tivo thinks it is hard wired to the network. Still, if you can ping it, then the network is working fine, and the problem is likely related to a firewall. Disable any firewalls or try connecting from a different pc. You could also try connecting your laptop directly to the tivo with a crossover cable.
Man, you guys are quick! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/9/biggthum.gif
I see - so actually it's not really a 'wireless' connection because I'm using the gaming adapter on the ethernet dongle - the TIVO thinks it's a hard-wire.
Surely it would only be using the SSID if it were seeing a wireless USB & attempt to connect via that? (shouldn't be any different than if I'd made the same provision in the original & was connecting directly with either a cable or wireless B)

If I can ping it though, I'm still not sure why it won't connect. I have the Windows (XP SP2) firewall disabled, my Zonealarm disabled & also the router firewall disabled.
If I run to the store & pick up a cross-over cable, & I connect to the ethernet, will I then be able to edit it after I connect?

Edit - update - picked up a cross-over ($15 at Compusa - what a rip-off!!!!)

Connected directlywith my laptop & still get same error
could not open connection to the host, on port 23
An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine
The link light is on the FA120 but I cannot see it in IPCONFIG and I cannot ping to the Tivo address.

As I look through the instructions, I see one thing I omitted; after the zip was complete, I did not unmount the CDROM or command 'halt' - I just shut down the PC at that point. Should tha have caused any issues?

rbautch
05-29-2006, 09:19 PM
Unmount wouldn't have caused it. Try setting the default gateway of your laptop eqal to the IP address of your Tivo, and then try to connect again with the crossover cable. Is is possible you're connecting to the wrong IP address? Can you ping the gaming adapter? Next things to try would be rezippering, or else build/buy a serial cable so you can really see what the problem is. It's easy.

D'Ecosse
05-29-2006, 09:39 PM
here's where I am now

I re-zipper'd the drive, still keeping original image
This time I gave it a fresh IP address - this time 192.168.1.111 (so I could tell it was different) and said 'no' to the wifi.

If I connect with the crossover cable from my laptop, I cannot ping the static address I assigned.

However if I reconnect my gaming adapter, I can again successfully ping to the above assigned address but get the same error message when trying to telnet (cannot open connection to host, port 23)

What I'm confused over is why the direct connection with the crossover cable via the FA120 won't even ping, yet it will with the gaming adapter? :confused:

...Try setting the default gateway of your laptop eqal to the IP address of your Tivo, and then try to connect again with the crossover cable. ....
That did it! Got my bash - Thanks!
(now after I complete the hacks we'll see what happens with my connection)

Gunnyman
05-29-2006, 09:43 PM
just a thought
is there a software firewall enabled on your laptop?

D'Ecosse
05-29-2006, 10:09 PM
Nothing is easy (at least for me it appears!)

So now I get the bash with the crossover cable, it starts to run the tweak but then stalls - it appears to be looking for the DNS -

download failed - adjust DNS & try again? y/n
Then if I say yes, it asks to enter IP of router - but of course there is no router!

what should I set the DNS to in the manual config for the default gateway for the laptop with the crossover ?

I tried again with my PC and the router link - pings OK but will still not telnet!

robr
05-29-2006, 10:26 PM
any chance you can remove the gaming router from the equation for now and just plug the FA120 directly into your router? if we can get that working, then we can stick the wireless bridge back in and troubleshoot from there.

my network config on my tivo is
network address: 192.168.2.104
netmask 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 192.168.2.1 (my router's internal address)
DNS server: 192.168.2.1 (again my router)
network type: wired

I also use the FA120 adapter.

D'Ecosse
05-30-2006, 04:03 AM
Still not getting the bash with the connection through the gaming adapter
However, it will ping to the Tivo
Also, if I connect via ftp to the tivo address entered during the zipper install, I can see all the directories & files in there (including the tweak.sh in the hacks directory)

But still get the "could not open connection to the host, on port 23" error when trying to telnet.
This is windows XP SP2
- I'm using the command tenet -t vt100 192.168.1.111

here's the ftp screen showing the connection

MATT1981M
05-30-2006, 04:07 AM
Still not getting the bash with the connection through the gaming adapter
However, it will ping to the Tivo
Also, if I connect via ftp to the tivo address entered during the zipper install, I can see all the directories & files in there (including the tweak.sh in the hacks directory)

But still get the "could not open connection to the host, on port 23" error when trying to telnet.
This is windows XP SP2
- I'm using the command tenet -t vt100 192.168.1.111

here's the ftp screen showing the connection
try using hyperterminal (http://www.geocities.com/mlm19811999/tivo_serial_bash.html).... it is easier.....

D'Ecosse
05-30-2006, 05:04 AM
We're off n running
- could never get the bash with telnet from my desktop PC which is directly connected to the router;
I finally tried using my laptop connected to the router (wirelessly even!) and tried to telnet the tivo from there - bingo!

mercurial
05-30-2006, 05:56 AM
Very weird Zipper problem... (well, hack problem at least)

I had three TiVo's Zippered. Recently I had to replace a failed drive in one of them so I reimaged it and re-Zippered. At that point, I was swapped out the Linksys USB100M adapter on that box with a Netgear FA120. That worked great.

Then I swapped out the USB100M on one of the other working boxes for a FA120. At that point everything seemed to work. It coudl MRV and I could telnet to it, but TWP wasn't working. So I telneted into it and tried to restart TWP and this is what I see:

bash-2.02# twprs
restarting Tivowebplus
/enhancements/TWPrun.sh: /var/hack/tivowebplus/tivoweb: No such file or directory
TWP restarting...this will take a minute.
bash-2.02#

Sure enough, there is not tivowebplus directory in this box. Is it possible that changing the adapter caused it to eat it? It was working previously. What's the easiest way to reinstall it? Everything else appears to be there in /busybox and /hacks but it appears that all of /var/hack is gone on this box? Can I just re-telnet over some packages/scripts and re-install those things?

BTW, this was zippered with an earlier version of the script before it was changed to keep around all the files and tarballs to let you uninstall and reinstall properly (I hope that makes sense).

Gunnyman
05-30-2006, 06:56 AM
delete the /enhancements directory
get the newest enhancement script from http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680
This will give you the latest and greatest.

mercurial
05-30-2006, 10:11 AM
Thanks Gunny. Is that really all I need? I mean there aren't any tarballs or binary for TWP and so forth that I should copy over as well?

Gunnyman
05-30-2006, 10:23 AM
the new script goes to the internet and downloads the most current package so make sure your tivo works with wget.

mercurial
05-30-2006, 10:31 AM
Cool. So how do I make sure it works with wget? :p Is there a safe method for upgrading previously zippered TiVos to the "latest and greatest"?

bman12
05-30-2006, 12:06 PM
I started the process of Zippering three TIVOs last night. I acquired the proper images and made individual Tool CDs for three different TIVOs. I burned the LBA48 Boot CD. I started with my HDVR2 and pulled the drive. I placed My replacement drive in my computer and followed all the steps in the Zipper instructions. To follow are my questions/issues:
1. I put my 6.2 image on the Tools disk. It was detected and installed, After unmounting my cdrom and before rebooting and running zipper I pulled the drive, put it in the TIVO and forced a call to both do any updates and check that it worked. I then pulled the drive and continued the Zipper process. Was there any problem adding the step of forcing a call?

2. My Tools CD has the superpatch 1.2. I noticed a message go across the screen while zippering saying it was unable to find superpatch 1.1. Did it skip the superpatch because I have 1.2? I f so, can I then run superpatch 1.2 after installing via telnet? Should I have renamed 1.2 to 1.1?

3. When the main script in the tools cd detects the image and installs it as noted in Step 5 -H does it both expand and enlarge the swap file automatically or is there something else I need to do?

4. Can the enhancement script be run a second time to make changes or do you need to uninstall first?

5. It didn't seem to hold the 30sec skip. What should I do?

6. I have Window xp sp2. Do I need to do unset crlf every time I use Telnet?

Sorry for the length....as soon as these questions are answered I will do my other 2 TIVOs and woohoo!

Adam1115
05-30-2006, 12:44 PM
Couple of questions...

1) Why no option for DHCP in the script?

2) Am I missing something? The script links you to a $5 ISO from ptvupgrade for 1 kernel file? (And using it as a boot cd, I guess to?) Seems like a waste of $5, no? Can't this be distributed freely?

rpdre1
05-30-2006, 01:12 PM
Couple of questions...

1) Why no option for DHCP in the script?

2) Am I missing something? The script links you to a $5 ISO from ptvupgrade for 1 kernel file? (And using it as a boot cd, I guess to?) Seems like a waste of $5, no? Can't this be distributed freely?



1) so you dont have to change the ip everytime you want to use tytool/mfs_ftp/ ftp/telnet

2) the kernel file (killhdinitrd kernel) is copyrighted.


You MAY NOT redistribute any kernel image modified by our software, or any derivative thereof.

ptvupgrade is exempt because they have a license from the authors to redistrubute the kernel with that paid boot cd.

if you run killhdinitrd on a stock tivo kernel image (youd have to learn how at ddb but its not hard at all), or "somehow" found a VMLINUX_.GZ that had killhdinitrd applied on it, then you could just use the free ptv boot cd.

there are enough support questions already, the reason you have to buy the cd and use a static ip are to simplify the process.





edit: to clarify

killhdinitrd is a software that modifies a stock kernel image and adds extra code into it to bypass tivo's security.

that extra code is copyrighted by the authors of killhdinitrd.

they didn't want it included in automated/easy tivo hacking scripts so they put in the license terms that you can't redistribute any kernels you make using killhdinitrd.

the killhdinitrd software itself is free and you can make a killhdinitrd kernel for your personal use for free.

rbautch
05-30-2006, 01:21 PM
I started the process of Zippering three TIVOs last night. I acquired the proper images and made individual Tool CDs for three different TIVOs. I burned the LBA48 Boot CD. I started with my HDVR2 and pulled the drive. I placed My replacement drive in my computer and followed all the steps in the Zipper instructions. To follow are my questions/issues:
1. I put my 6.2 image on the Tools disk. It was detected and installed, After unmounting my cdrom and before rebooting and running zipper I pulled the drive, put it in the TIVO and forced a call to both do any updates and check that it worked. I then pulled the drive and continued the Zipper process. Was there any problem adding the step of forcing a call?As long as it was before the hacks were applied, that's fine.


2. My Tools CD has the superpatch 1.2. I noticed a message go across the screen while zippering saying it was unable to find superpatch 1.1. Did it skip the superpatch because I have 1.2? I f so, can I then run superpatch 1.2 after installing via telnet? Should I have renamed 1.2 to 1.1? It skipped it. I'll update the script to work with either version. In the meantime, you can just run 1.2 manually or rename it to 1.1. Both will work.


3. When the main script in the tools cd detects the image and installs it as noted in Step 5 -H does it both expand and enlarge the swap file automatically or is there something else I need to do? It expands the partition set and uses the -r 4 block size, which will support large drives. If you feel you need a larger swap file (which I don't think you do), then you have to do that manually. There is a good discussion on the topic somewhere here in this thread.


4. Can the enhancement script be run a second time to make changes or do you need to uninstall first?Have to uninstall first.


5. It didn't seem to hold the 30sec skip. What should I do?That's because the superpatch was not applied.


6. I have Window xp sp2. Do I need to do unset crlf every time I use Telnet?Best bet is to get a third party telnet client like PuttyTel (free). It handles the line feeds correctly.

rbautch
05-30-2006, 01:24 PM
1) so you dont have to change the ip everytime you want to use tytool/mfs_ftp/ ftp/telnet

2) the kernel file (killhdinitrd kernel) is copyrighted.



ptvupgrade is exempt because they have a license from the authors to redistrubute the kernel with that paid boot cd.

if you run killhdinitrd on a stock tivo kernel image (youd have to learn how at ddb but its not hard at all), or "somehow" found a VMLINUX_.GZ that had killhdinitrd applied on it, then you could just use the free ptv boot cd.



there are enough support questions already, the reason you have to buy the cd and use a static ip are to simplify the process.
Good answers. If you still want to use DHCP, just run the /enhancements/net-launch.sh script.

bman12
05-30-2006, 01:48 PM
You are the BEST!

Gunnyman
05-30-2006, 03:28 PM
Cool. So how do I make sure it works with wget? :p Is there a safe method for upgrading previously zippered TiVos to the "latest and greatest"?
If you aren't having issues with empty now playing list then wget will in all likelyhood work just fine.

Adam1115
05-30-2006, 05:56 PM
Good answers. If you still want to use DHCP, just run the /enhancements/net-launch.sh script.

Thanks!

(BTW, IP only changes if you don't have a reservation. Easier to manage through DHCP though...)

D'Ecosse
05-30-2006, 10:59 PM
Just some feedback on the connectivity issue with port 23 during the attempted hack install
To recap my previous problem I was unable to telnet into the Tivo from my primary network PC, receiving 'unable to open connection to host, port 23' error.
Ultimately I was able to open the connection using my laptop connected through the same network!

As I was researching I found a significant number of references to this same error but no real answers - none really forthcoming here either, but just wanted to document my situation for the benefits of smarter people to deduce what might have been going on & as a reference for others who might encounter similar.
For some reason, from the error message posted it seemed like the request when sent from the primary PC was being rejected by the tivo, but then was allowed when sent by my laptop - both systems run windows XP Pro SP2 incidentally.
All firewalls were disabled on the PC but still to no avail; both are routed through the same common router, the PC being hard-wired and the laptop wifi. Obviously the tivo end is common in both situations & taking the command via the router to the gaming adapter, FA120 adapter & into the Tivo.
I thought it may have something to do with the original USB drivers but that obviously is no different for one source vs the other!

It would seem that something originating from the PC was not well liked by the Tivo, however once the drive was completely hacked, I now have no problem in accessing it with my primary PC - including ability to telnet to it.

I'm still none the wiser as to source of the malcontent - Very strange but glad to be through it!

MATT1981M
05-31-2006, 01:55 AM
Couple of questions...

1) Why no option for DHCP in the script?

2) Am I missing something? The script links you to a $5 ISO from ptvupgrade for 1 kernel file? (And using it as a boot cd, I guess to?) Seems like a waste of $5, no? Can't this be distributed freely?

even though these have been answered i want to put my 2 cents in...

1...same answer as rpde1....

2....again same as rpde1 but to add the following... 5.00 for a secure valid kernel that has not been corrupted or changed (except for being kill'd properly of course :D) and the knowledge that everything will run smoothly because the kernel you are using has been used by MANY other people to do this same thing is well worth the 5.00 price tag

mercurial
05-31-2006, 05:42 AM
Thanks Gunny! Back up and running now. Should I do this on all my other Zippered TiVos to get them up to the latest version of the hacks/scripts?

Gunnyman
05-31-2006, 06:48 AM
merc the biggest reason to do so is to avoid the HFC my /var got wiped.

mercurial
05-31-2006, 07:35 AM
merc the biggest reason to do so is to avoid the HFC my /var got wiped.

So, same procedure?

# rw
# rm -rf enhancments
ftp over new tweak.sh
# sh tweak.sh

?

Or do I need to remove stuff in /var first?

Gunnyman
05-31-2006, 07:46 AM
Hmm not sure on that one merc. I think the only thing in /var that zipper put there was TWP.
if you say you need to install twp it will get put in the propper place, but ask rbautch in the enhance thread to be sure.

br408408
05-31-2006, 09:38 AM
Zippered my first Tivo last night....worked great!! Now, two more Tivo's to go.
Big thanks to Gunnyman, rbautch, and all who have posted help here.
Now, just one problem. I need to get my Standby back as I have an automatic S-video switcher, and two Tivo's on the same TV. I put one Tivo in Standby, and power up the other, and the auto switcher switches the imput for me. I have found the two files I think need to do this (Superpatch67Standby.tcl and tuikhelper.tcl), I am just unsure how to use them. I think all I need to do is copy them to the same folder in the Tivo (unsure what folder it should be) and then run the Superpatch67Standby.tcl from the bash prompt. Any help on this would be graet.

Thanks again to all, Bill

Gunnyman
05-31-2006, 10:39 AM
That really is all there is to it.
These scripts put standby back on the top level menu and remove the promo list stuff.

Luv2DrvFst
05-31-2006, 10:51 AM
Zippered my first Tivo last night....worked great!! Now, two more Tivo's to go.
Big thanks to Gunnyman, rbautch, and all who have posted help here.
Now, just one problem. I need to get my Standby back as I have an automatic S-video switcher, and two Tivo's on the same TV. I put one Tivo in Standby, and power up the other, and the auto switcher switches the imput for me. I have found the two files I think need to do this (Superpatch67Standby.tcl and tuikhelper.tcl), I am just unsure how to use them. I think all I need to do is copy them to the same folder in the Tivo (unsure what folder it should be) and then run the Superpatch67Standby.tcl from the bash prompt. Any help on this would be graet.

Thanks again to all, Bill
Perhaps I'm stating the obvious, but Standby isn't gone, it's just moved to a different menu.

randels
05-31-2006, 01:45 PM
What is the difference between the "zipper" and a replacement drive from PTVupgrade (other then the cost). I am new to this "hacking" process and would feel better just replacing the drive, which is something i can do.

does both processes get you the same functionality?

thanks,

JWThiers
05-31-2006, 06:52 PM
What is the difference between the "zipper" and a replacement drive from PTVupgrade (other then the cost). I am new to this "hacking" process and would feel better just replacing the drive, which is something i can do.

does both processes get you the same functionality?

thanks,
Not having done the PTV route, I won't say for sure BUT it appears that it provides the same basic functionality of the Zipper, but it is expensive if you plan on getting it preinstalled on a drive. I'd Still consider THe zipper, if you rplace a drive you can run zipper and people on this forum are good about handholding people through the rough spots. and no matter which way you go you can plan on the fairly common networking issues that always seem to crop up (which network adapters, network settings and the like). If you just get the ptvnet software (no drive) the cost is about the same.

Adam1115
05-31-2006, 09:05 PM
Any reason the zipper won't work on a SA?

Gunnyman
05-31-2006, 09:41 PM
different software different kernel, using netfilter-disable messes up a standalone
plus very few of them are hackable without EEPROM mods.

rbautch
05-31-2006, 10:07 PM
What is the difference between the "zipper" and a replacement drive from PTVupgrade (other then the cost). I am new to this "hacking" process and would feel better just replacing the drive, which is something i can do.

does both processes get you the same functionality?

thanks,If you have never hooked your tivo drive to your PC for a drive upgrade, or you are nervous about your technical skills, then a pre-hacked drive is the way to go. It's by far the simplest upgrade...just pop it in and it works. The Zipper is a do it yourself project that anyone with a little technical skill can handle. The basic functionality is about the same.

rbautch
05-31-2006, 10:11 PM
Just some feedback on the connectivity issue with port 23 during the attempted hack install
To recap my previous problem I was unable to telnet into the Tivo from my primary network PC, receiving 'unable to open connection to host, port 23' error.
Ultimately I was able to open the connection using my laptop connected through the same network!

As I was researching I found a significant number of references to this same error but no real answers - none really forthcoming here either, but just wanted to document my situation for the benefits of smarter people to deduce what might have been going on & as a reference for others who might encounter similar.
For some reason, from the error message posted it seemed like the request when sent from the primary PC was being rejected by the tivo, but then was allowed when sent by my laptop - both systems run windows XP Pro SP2 incidentally.
All firewalls were disabled on the PC but still to no avail; both are routed through the same common router, the PC being hard-wired and the laptop wifi. Obviously the tivo end is common in both situations & taking the command via the router to the gaming adapter, FA120 adapter & into the Tivo.
I thought it may have something to do with the original USB drivers but that obviously is no different for one source vs the other!

It would seem that something originating from the PC was not well liked by the Tivo, however once the drive was completely hacked, I now have no problem in accessing it with my primary PC - including ability to telnet to it.

I'm still none the wiser as to source of the malcontent - Very strange but glad to be through it!
Tivo shouldnt care which PC is communicating with it. There's got to be something on the main PC stopping it. VPN client? To test it, try pinging the Tivo from the PC. If it works, then you know you've got something running that's blocking it.

rbautch
05-31-2006, 10:13 PM
So, same procedure?

# rw
# rm -rf enhancments
ftp over new tweak.sh
# sh tweak.sh

?

Or do I need to remove stuff in /var first?You should only manually remove the enhancements directory as a last resort. The proper way is to run the uninstall script, which restores your backup author file and .profile as well as removing /enhancements. You should check your author file and .profile now, because you likely have duplicate startup commands. No reason to erase anything from /var. The only think the script puts there are symlinks.

rbautch
05-31-2006, 10:15 PM
That really is all there is to it.
These scripts put standby back on the top level menu and remove the promo list stuff. There is a script on DDB that puts standby back on the main menu, but it's not included in the enhancement script.

bnm81002
05-31-2006, 10:46 PM
There is a script on DDB that puts standby back on the main menu, but it's not included in the enhancement script.




sounds like a future thing to include it in, hint hint :p

br408408
05-31-2006, 11:26 PM
Yea, I found the script over at DDB...it was easy to run (even for a newbe to Tivo hacking like me) and it worked great. I have my standby back in my main menu, which is good as I use it every day because of my automatic input switcher.


Thanks again to all, Bill

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 01:44 AM
First off... This is my first post, and if it's redundant then I'm sorry... but I've browsed so many pages of this thread my eyes are about to bleed!

I should also note that I'm a CIS major so don't worry about confusing me, fire away.

I have an HR10-250 . I zippered it using the instructions. I have a usb100m from Linksys and a Linksys usb200m v2 (yes, v2). I've zippered this poor drive about 50 times using those 2 adapters trying to get them to work to no avail. So after browsing I noticed all of the hooplah about needing the Superpatch put in for the 200 to work.

I grabbed myself a serial null modem cable and a gender changer, hooked it up to one of my PCs and used Hyperterminal (both with 9600 and 115200) and don't get any text whatsoever. (before you say it, yes, I know it's a null modem cable). I re-zippered and retried about 10 times.

I'm out of options here guys, I appreciate any feedback that you can give me. If I can get this to work I'll buy someone a beer! Cheers!

[EDIT] I should also note thatI performed a loopback test on my serial port on my PC and it came back clean. Just thought that may be relevant.

rbautch
06-01-2006, 02:03 AM
First off... This is my first post, and if it's redundant then I'm sorry... but I've browsed so many pages of this thread my eyes are about to bleed!

I should also note that I'm a CIS major so don't worry about confusing me, fire away.

I have an HR10-250 . I zippered it using the instructions. I have a usb100m from Linksys and a Linksys usb200m v2 (yes, v2). I've zippered this poor drive about 50 times using those 2 adapters trying to get them to work to no avail. So after browsing I noticed all of the hooplah about needing the Superpatch put in for the 200 to work.

I grabbed myself a serial null modem cable and a gender changer, hooked it up to one of my PCs and used Hyperterminal (both with 9600 and 115200) and don't get any text whatsoever. (before you say it, yes, I know it's a null modem cable). I re-zippered and retried about 10 times.

I'm out of options here guys, I appreciate any feedback that you can give me. If I can get this to work I'll buy someone a beer! Cheers!

[EDIT] I should also note thatI performed a loopback test on my serial port on my PC and it came back clean. Just thought that may be relevant.
The usb100m will work, but the 200m will not work until the enhancement script is run (the superpatch does not run on an HR10-250). Make sure the IP address you are specifying is in your subnet. Do you get a link light? For the serial cable, you have disable flow control, and hit enter a few times before you'll see a bash prompt. Check the Zipper wikki for other troubleshooting tips.

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 02:16 AM
The usb100m will work, but the 200m will not work until the enhancement script is run (the superpatch does not run on an HR10-250). Make sure the IP address you are specifying is in your subnet. Do you get a link light? For the serial cable, you have disable flow control, and hit enter a few times before you'll see a bash prompt. Check the Zipper wikki for other troubleshooting tips.

No link light or activity lights whatsoever on the 100m, no indication of power. I know the IP address is good, and I know my gateway is good. When I tried Hyperterminal I disabled flow control, but I don't get any of the status reporting, much less the ability to get a bash prompt. :( I'll check out Zipper Wiki again, see if there's something I missed. Thanks for all your help!

[Edit] This is my ipconfig info, to show you an existing IP address and gateway/subnet info.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : <<DNS>>
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.177
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

This is my DHCP info from my router to show ya that as well:

DHCP Settings
DHCP IP Address Range : to (addresses within the LAN subnet)
DHCP Lease Time : (minutes)
Always broadcast : (compatibility for some DHCP Clients)

Number of Dynamic DHCP Clients : 8
Computer Name MAC Address IP Address
amberdesktop 00:15:F2:9B:C7:41 192.168.0.103
neo 00:11:2F:87:E7:59 192.168.0.115
LK7DE0C4 00:0F:66:7D:E0:C4 192.168.0.116
NetworkStorage 00:01:6C:B1:CC:81 192.168.0.130
Zion 00:07:E9:0F:A6:94 192.168.0.168
blade 00:15:F2:7F:E8:BE 192.168.0.177
YOUR-058795DD91 00:90:4B:FF:DA:8A 192.168.0.178
-=---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

I set my static IP info for the hr10 to :
IP: 192.168.0.125
Gateway: 192.168.0.1

MATT1981M
06-01-2006, 02:47 AM
No link light or activity lights whatsoever on the 100m, no indication of power. I know the IP address is good, and I know my gateway is good. When I tried Hyperterminal I disabled flow control, but I don't get any of the status reporting, much less the ability to get a bash prompt. :( I'll check out Zipper Wiki again, see if there's something I missed. Thanks for all your help!

[Edit] This is my ipconfig info, to show you an existing IP address and gateway/subnet info.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : <<DNS>>
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.177
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

This is my DHCP info from my router to show ya that as well:

DHCP Settings
DHCP IP Address Range : to (addresses within the LAN subnet)
DHCP Lease Time : (minutes)
Always broadcast : (compatibility for some DHCP Clients)

Number of Dynamic DHCP Clients : 8
Computer Name MAC Address IP Address
amberdesktop 00:15:F2:9B:C7:41 192.168.0.103
neo 00:11:2F:87:E7:59 192.168.0.115
LK7DE0C4 00:0F:66:7D:E0:C4 192.168.0.116
NetworkStorage 00:01:6C:B1:CC:81 192.168.0.130
Zion 00:07:E9:0F:A6:94 192.168.0.168
blade 00:15:F2:7F:E8:BE 192.168.0.177
YOUR-058795DD91 00:90:4B:FF:DA:8A 192.168.0.178
-=---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

I set my static IP info for the hr10 to :
IP: 192.168.0.125
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
make sure the ip address is OUTSIDE the DHCP range...what do you have the DHCP range set to....also i know you said that you have a null modem cable, but where did you get it from.... check out the tutorial i had put together.. it is linked on the zipper wiki main page (http://www.thewallens.net/Zipperwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)... i would also try to obtain a different cable... if you made it, check your connections... if not at the top of the tutorial there is a link on where you can buy the cable from 9thtee and also linked is info on how to make one... it is easy and takes 5 min or less once you have the materials, which you may already have!!!!

S-Merrell
06-01-2006, 02:50 AM
Help anyone,

I have a directv tivo.
It came with a 40meg HD, so I bought a 160meg to upgrade it.

On my computer system I use System commander, so I can run several systems, DOS, windows, beos, Linux, etc.
It also can clone drives, re size partitions, etc.
So, I plugged in my tivo drive, and the new 160meg drive, turned it on, went into Part commander, went into the clone drive area, and it said you have an unformated drive, do you want to copy your drive to it, I said yes!
Then I thought it would ask, which one to which one, but it didn't.
Normaly it would say "Are you sure? there is data on this drive?"
It just started copying, my drive over the TIVO drive!
It thought that the TIVO was blank?
Well now it is! I stopped the process, but it was to late.
How frailed am I now?
\
HELP! :eek:
:confused:
:(

S.M.

mercurial
06-01-2006, 05:47 AM
You should only manually remove the enhancements directory as a last resort. The proper way is to run the uninstall script, which restores your backup author file and .profile as well as removing /enhancements. You should check your author file and .profile now, because you likely have duplicate startup commands. No reason to erase anything from /var. The only think the script puts there are symlinks.

Thanks!

Gunnyman
06-01-2006, 06:48 AM
Help anyone,

I have a directv tivo.
It came with a 40meg HD, so I bought a 160meg to upgrade it.

On my computer system I use System commander, so I can run several systems, DOS, windows, beos, Linux, etc.
It also can clone drives, re size partitions, etc.
So, I plugged in my tivo drive, and the new 160meg drive, turned it on, went into Part commander, went into the clone drive area, and it said you have an unformated drive, do you want to copy your drive to it, I said yes!
Then I thought it would ask, which one to which one, but it didn't.
Normaly it would say "Are you sure? there is data on this drive?"
It just started copying, my drive over the TIVO drive!
It thought that the TIVO was blank?
Well now it is! I stopped the process, but it was to late.
How frailed am I now?
\
HELP! :eek:
:confused:
:(

S.M.
There aren't any PC utilities except mfstools that can deal with a TiVO hard drive.
You are probably going to need a new image now from ptvupgrade.
Check the upgrade forum here for more info.

Adam1115
06-01-2006, 08:05 AM
different software different kernel, using netfilter-disable messes up a standalone
plus very few of them are hackable without EEPROM mods.

Killhdinitrd and superpatch still work... Is replacing the kernel necessary? only the 540 and DT's require prom mod (same with the R10), 140 & 240's work fine...

Why does disabling netfilter mess up a standalone? I'm certain I've done this...

Gunnyman
06-01-2006, 08:09 AM
adam

feel free to use the zipper on your standalone but don't look here for help.
I don't have a standalone. We did this for the dtivo owners like ourselves.

rbautch
06-01-2006, 11:25 AM
I hacked a standalone for my dad awhile ago. Netfilter can still be disabled. Here are some other considerations;

1. Need to fix IP tables. ADH posted the required fix on DDB.

2. Setting upgradesoftware=false in bootpage can be a concern, since your phoneline will always be connected. If new software comes out and you let it sit there, eventually Tivo will cut off your guide data. Eventually you'll have to upgrade to the new software using slides, or remove the upgradesoftware parameter and overwrite your hacks.

3. If you have a 540 series 2.5 tivo that has been prom modded, you still need to replace the kernel with one that has a null initrd. DDB has info on how to remove the initrd from a kernel.

4. if you have a standalone that's not a 540, you can use a killhdinitrd'd kernel.

5. Need to remove the dead routes from the author file that comes with the Zipper.

rbautch
06-01-2006, 11:35 AM
No link light or activity lights whatsoever on the 100m, no indication of power. I know the IP address is good, and I know my gateway is good. When I tried Hyperterminal I disabled flow control, but I don't get any of the status reporting, much less the ability to get a bash prompt. :( I'll check out Zipper Wiki again, see if there's something I missed. Thanks for all your help!

[Edit] This is my ipconfig info, to show you an existing IP address and gateway/subnet info.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : <<DNS>>
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.177
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

This is my DHCP info from my router to show ya that as well:

DHCP Settings
DHCP IP Address Range : to (addresses within the LAN subnet)
DHCP Lease Time : (minutes)
Always broadcast : (compatibility for some DHCP Clients)

Number of Dynamic DHCP Clients : 8
Computer Name MAC Address IP Address
amberdesktop 00:15:F2:9B:C7:41 192.168.0.103
neo 00:11:2F:87:E7:59 192.168.0.115
LK7DE0C4 00:0F:66:7D:E0:C4 192.168.0.116
NetworkStorage 00:01:6C:B1:CC:81 192.168.0.130
Zion 00:07:E9:0F:A6:94 192.168.0.168
blade 00:15:F2:7F:E8:BE 192.168.0.177
YOUR-058795DD91 00:90:4B:FF:DA:8A 192.168.0.178
-=---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

I set my static IP info for the hr10 to :
IP: 192.168.0.125
Gateway: 192.168.0.1It's probably your adapter. Only a subset of compatible adapters will work with way I set up the driver loads for the HR10-250. See here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3687099&&#post3687099) for more information. The usb200m will work, but only after you run the enhancement script. So, get your serial connection working so you can run the script, or get another adapter.

Adam1115
06-01-2006, 12:07 PM
I hacked a standalone for my dad awhile ago. Netfilter can still be disabled. Here are some other considerations;

1. Need to fix IP tables. ADH posted the required fix on DDB.

2. Setting upgradesoftware=false in bootpage can be a concern, since your phoneline will always be connected. If new software comes out and you let it sit there, eventually Tivo will cut off your guide data. Eventually you'll have to upgrade to the new software using slides, or remove the upgradesoftware parameter and overwrite your hacks.

3. If you have a 540 series 2.5 tivo that has been prom modded, you still need to replace the kernel with one that has a null initrd. DDB has info on how to remove the initrd from a kernel.

4. if you have a standalone that's not a 540, you can use a killhdinitrd'd kernel.

5. Need to remove the dead routes from the author file that comes with the Zipper.


THANK YOU!! This was EXACTLY what I was looking for... :D

tall1
06-01-2006, 01:00 PM
I hacked a standalone for my dad awhile ago. Netfilter can still be disabled. Here are some other considerations;

1. Need to fix IP tables. ADH posted the required fix on DDB.

2. Setting upgradesoftware=false in bootpage can be a concern, since your phoneline will always be connected. If new software comes out and you let it sit there, eventually Tivo will cut off your guide data. Eventually you'll have to upgrade to the new software using slides, or remove the upgradesoftware parameter and overwrite your hacks.

3. If you have a 540 series 2.5 tivo that has been prom modded, you still need to replace the kernel with one that has a null initrd. DDB has info on how to remove the initrd from a kernel.

4. if you have a standalone that's not a 540, you can use a killhdinitrd'd kernel.

5. Need to remove the dead routes from the author file that comes with the Zipper.So why go to the trouble of hacking a SA when you have almost everything in 7.2?

Gunnyman
06-01-2006, 01:05 PM
mostly because TTG is slow
also to use Tivoserver
also to MRV between a DTivo and a standalone

rbautch
06-01-2006, 01:05 PM
So why go to the trouble of hacking a SA when you have almost everything in 7.2?Permanent 30-sec skip, extraction, tivoserver, tivowebplus, shell access.

tall1
06-01-2006, 01:15 PM
Permanent 30-sec skip, extraction, tivoserver, tivowebplus, shell access.Well, there is that! I guess it is worth the trouble because I use all of these "features" quite a bit.

jmasterman
06-01-2006, 01:39 PM
Let me add:
Better picture quality at about 500-600 megs per 1 hour show as opposed to a gig for SA with TTG.

MATT1981M
06-01-2006, 01:44 PM
Let me add:
Better picture quality at about 500-600 megs per 1 hour show as opposed to a gig for SA with TTG.
i get 1gb per hr apprx w/ tytool.... what are you using...

Adam1115
06-01-2006, 03:23 PM
So why go to the trouble of hacking a SA when you have almost everything in 7.2?

Me personally, to MRV to DirecTiVo, to MRV outside of TiVo's on your account (with TiVo MRV you can only use it with TiVo's on your account. Not too cool if you want to beam in wirelessly down the street to your buddy...), TiVoWebPlus....

Of course, lets just get right down to the REAL reason! If it CAN be hacked, it SHOULD be hacked!! :D

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 03:42 PM
make sure the ip address is OUTSIDE the DHCP range...what do you have the DHCP range set to....also i know you said that you have a null modem cable, but where did you get it from.... check out the tutorial i had put together.. it is linked on the zipper wiki main page... i would also try to obtain a different cable... if you made it, check your connections... if not at the top of the tutorial there is a link on where you can buy the cable from 9thtee and also linked is info on how to make one... it is easy and takes 5 min or less once you have the materials, which you may already have!!!!

I got it with one of my standalones, so I know it's good. My DHCP range is 100-199 so I'm going to try 200 and see if that works here... off to the re-zipper!

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 04:09 PM
Still no go :( ...

Okay so I re-zippered the drive and set it to IP: 192.168.0.201 GATEWAY: 192.168.0.1 and put the drive back in my DTiVo and turned it on with the Linksys usb100m plugged into the top USB port and plugged in a network cable that I had just removed from one of my PCs. I got no indicator lights but I allowed it to boot and reboot the first initial time, still didn't get any indicator lights.

So I unplugged the unit and put the NIC into the bottom USB slot and tryed it again, still no go. Sorry to be a nuisance, I just really have no clue what else to do. I've gone through everything on ZipperWiki . Any other ideas?

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 04:48 PM
I'd love to get the serial connection working, but I've exhausted everything I know there too... The cable works on my standalone (which is where I got it). It won't, however, work on my HR10.

JWThiers
06-01-2006, 05:33 PM
I'd love to get the serial connection working, but I've exhausted everything I know there too... The cable works on my standalone (which is where I got it). It won't, however, work on my HR10.
serial should work

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 06:21 PM
serial should work
Right, I know it SHOULD. All I know is that it's not, despite my best efforts.

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 06:46 PM
I just tried it from another serial port on another PC, still no go. :(

Gunnyman
06-01-2006, 07:17 PM
what's happening when you connect the serial port?

klibutti
06-01-2006, 07:48 PM
Just "Zippered" my first Tivo. Thanks Rbautch & Gunnyman for all your hard work on this. Everything worked perfectly first shot. Once I found a PC that would work.

I have a questions though, just to be clear, I have a series 2 D*Tivo v 6.2. If upgradesoftware=false then will I ever have to worry Tivo will shut off my guide?

I have seen that warning for the standalones.

Bardman
06-01-2006, 08:13 PM
Bardman
what you want is to upgrade from 4.0 to 6.2 with SLICES.
dellanave has a great guide for doing just that at http://www.dellanave.com/projects/tivo/62slices.html

Any zipper procedure that installs a new image on the tivo will wipe the shows.

After a quick read of the link above, I did think of another potential option...

What if I FTP the enhancement script to the 4.0.1b DTivo to get the backup season pass/wishlist enhancement function installed, then backup said items, MRV all shows to the other DTivo (already running zippered 6.2), then pull the drive, zipper to 6.2, restore the backup SP/WL and all is good? (can MRV back shows at my leisure).

Would a backup of SP/WL of 4.0.1b be able to be restored on a 6.2 box??

Gunnyman
06-01-2006, 08:18 PM
not tested that but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Honestly the slice upgrade is easy
dbload the slices
modify the installsw.itcl to stop the reboot,
run installsw.itcl
copy the killhdinitrd kernel then copy your hacks over.
The whole process took about 10 minutes.
I did this on my tivos running 4.01b

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 08:58 PM
what's happening when you connect the serial port?

When I use a serial connection, I open hyperterminal and connect to my com port, turn the DTiVo on, and it just sits there and blinks at me.... no text comes up. This happens no matter how many computers / serial ports I try it on.

Gunnyman
06-01-2006, 09:17 PM
boot the tivo THEN plug in the serial cable and hit enter in hyperterm.

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 09:23 PM
boot the tivo THEN plug in the serial cable and hit enter in hyperterm.


I just ran to work and borrowed our usb200m v1 and i'm running the enhancement script right now :) thanks for all your help, after I get everything set, to satisfy my curiousity, I'm going to get this ruddy Null Modem Cable working.

Thanks for your help guys, I'll let ya know when I get the serial working. You guys are the best!

Gunnyman
06-01-2006, 11:09 PM
glad to hear it

MATT1981M
06-01-2006, 11:21 PM
I got it with one of my standalones, so I know it's good. My DHCP range is 100-199 so I'm going to try 200 and see if that works here... off to the re-zipper!
that is the problem.... The cable that comes with the sa tivo's is a serial cable... You need to get a null modem adapter to use that cable...

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 11:45 PM
that is the problem.... The cable that comes with the sa tivo's is a serial cable... You need to get a null modem adapter to use that cable...

Ahhhhhh... (I happened to have one of those) works sweet! Thx man!

I do have another question though... I've got TiVoServer running on one of my PCs for my SA. I've seen a lot of info to the contrary, but I wanted to ask formally, is there anyway to get my HR10-250 to see my TiVoServer machine?

MATT1981M
06-01-2006, 11:49 PM
Ahhhhhh... (I happened to have one of those) works sweet! Thx man!

I do have another question though... I've got TiVoServer running on one of my PCs for my SA. I've seen a lot of info to the contrary, but I wanted to ask formally, is there anyway to get my HR10-250 to see my TiVoServer machine?
nope... That would be MRV...

theReapeR
06-01-2006, 11:55 PM
nope... That would be MRV...

That's what I was afraid of... ah well... can't win em all... know of anyway to convert video to TMF's? That way I could upload em to the unit.

[EDIT: I'm currently looking into tymplex. If anyone has any explicit information on this I'd appreciate it! ]

kimsan
06-02-2006, 07:02 AM
That's what I was afraid of... ah well... can't win em all... know of anyway to convert video to TMF's? That way I could upload em to the unit.

[EDIT: I'm currently looking into tymplex. If anyone has any explicit information on this I'd appreciate it! ]

Check your PMs. Dunno about TMF conversion, but TYmplex does insertable TY files.

JWThiers
06-02-2006, 08:54 AM
Just "Zippered" my first Tivo. Thanks Rbautch & Gunnyman for all your hard work on this. Everything worked perfectly first shot. Once I found a PC that would work.

I have a questions though, just to be clear, I have a series 2 D*Tivo v 6.2. If upgradesoftware=false then will I ever have to worry Tivo will shut off my guide?

I have seen that warning for the standalones.
D*Tivos get guide data and OS upgrades from D* NOT Tivo. The only OS upgrade that I think MAY happen for the DTivos is getting 6.2 on the HR-250 (unless they ditch the R-15's and go back to tivo). So it shouldn't matter anyway.

jmasterman
06-02-2006, 09:26 AM
i get 1gb per hr apprx w/ tytool.... what are you using...

Nothing unusual.

IE. This week's episode of a "1 Hour" show came out to 607,489 KB

I use tytool, strip out the stuff I don't want to see (that leaves about 40 min), and multiplex using the (New Format) off the file menu.

wliu
06-02-2006, 05:43 PM
I already have 2 DTiVo zipper’ed. I just did a 3rd one, but this one is not subbed. I’m only using it to store shows that I’ve MRV’ed over from the other 2. I did notice that alot of tivowebplus options don’t work on this non-subbed DTiVo. Is this normal? Thanks.

cheer
06-02-2006, 08:48 PM
i get 1gb per hr apprx w/ tytool.... what are you using...
You have DTivos. DTivos record the video exactly as it comes from the satellite.

The OP has a standalone, which has variable recording depending on what quality you select...and I suspect one of the reasons TTG is slow is because it's re-encoding or altering the video in some other fashion.

cheer
06-02-2006, 08:50 PM
I already have 2 DTiVo zipper’ed. I just did a 3rd one, but this one is not subbed. I’m only using it to store shows that I’ve MRV’ed over from the other 2. I did notice that alot of tivowebplus options don’t work on this non-subbed DTiVo. Is this normal? Thanks.
If TWP thinks you're not connected to the satellite, it disables a bunch of the UI stuff. I don't know why. But...you can cheat.

Let's say you normally go to http://10.0.0.1 to get to your Tivo. So...instead try http://10.0.0.1/ui and you'll see the missing UI stuff. :)

rbautch
06-02-2006, 09:21 PM
If TWP thinks you're not connected to the satellite, it disables a bunch of the UI stuff. I don't know why. But...you can cheat.

Let's say you normally go to http://10.0.0.1 to get to your Tivo. So...instead try http://10.0.0.1/ui and you'll see the missing UI stuff. :)Cheer, it's about time you found this thread. Welcome!

cheer
06-02-2006, 10:50 PM
Cheer, it's about time you found this thread. Welcome!
Hah. Thank you, sir. Flirting with the dark side and all that. :)

theReapeR
06-02-2006, 11:43 PM
Well I wanted to say thank you to rbautch, the G-man, Matt1981M and JWThiers for all your help! My HR10-250 is up and running beautifully. I'm currently working on a project to help give back to this community that has helped me so much. I'm an experienced windows programmer and a noviced linux programmer, so I'm working a solution to combine all of the small tools and batches into one comprehensive program that does it all! Thanks again, and you have a subscriber for life!

MATT1981M
06-03-2006, 02:12 AM
You have DTivos. DTivos record the video exactly as it comes from the satellite.

The OP has a standalone, which has variable recording depending on what quality you select...and I suspect one of the reasons TTG is slow is because it's re-encoding or altering the video in some other fashion.
i thought they also were using a dtivo... my bad....

Gunnyman
06-03-2006, 06:52 AM
Hah. Thank you, sir. Flirting with the dark side and all that. :)

Just remember the rule here:
No talking about the zipper.
Oh wait, that's perfectly ok here. :D

cheer
06-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Just remember the rule here:
No talking about the zipper.
Oh wait, that's perfectly ok here. :D
Right. You just can't talk about some of the things you can do with the Zipper.

:)

Gunnyman
06-03-2006, 01:14 PM
yes that thing that rhymes with distraction.
Yet Videora and Directshow dump discussion seem to be just fine for some reason :p

rbautch
06-03-2006, 01:33 PM
Not sure these forums are being watched anymore. I've seen several reference slip past the goalie.

cheer
06-03-2006, 03:23 PM
Not sure these forums are being watched anymore. I've seen several reference slip past the goalie.
Me too. Still, no sense inviting trouble.

Oh, hey rbautch...whereabouts in Chicago? I'm a Gurnee resident myself.

rbautch
06-03-2006, 03:35 PM
Aurora. Don't think I can get any farther away. I do most of my hacking on Metra on the way downtown.

HDTVsportsfan
06-03-2006, 04:25 PM
My apologies for doing this to you guys, but......

I have done some searches and I have an idea of what my problem is but here it goes.
I'm getting a "RestoreFailed: Unknown Backup Format" error when trying to apply the image. Then it says .... replace w/ boot disk.

I have read a posts about a possible bad image/burn. I have burned several CD's with no luck.

Everything is from PTVupgrade. I downloaded ICAKE-S2DT-62 for my SD-DVR80.

I also saw a post where gunny mentioned the file name. I could have sworn I read "00000001" as the file name when he responded to someone else with this same problem, but the unguide says 000001. I have burned my CD's w/ the latter.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

rbautch
06-03-2006, 04:37 PM
I could have sworn I read "00000001" as the file name when he responded to someone else with this same problem, but the unguide says 00001. These are both wrong. It's five zeros.

HDTVsportsfan
06-03-2006, 04:48 PM
These are both wrong. It's five zeros.

Sorry....
I actually have been burning the CD's with 5 zeros and the 1. I just typed it wrong in my post. I've since corrected. Thanks.

Any other suggestions? I'm going to try and make another CD w/ a different CD-RW drive and software. I'm using CD-R disks btw.

Thanks again.

MATT1981M
06-04-2006, 02:04 AM
are you moving the file over to the tools cd and having problems w/ that or are you burning the instacake cd and having problems with that cd....

HDTVsportsfan
06-04-2006, 11:18 AM
are you moving the file over to the tools cd and having problems w/ that or are you burning the instacake cd and having problems with that cd....

Hey Matt,

I can burn the CD fine. I'm having problems applying the zipper to the HDD. I'll try to give brief descirptions of my steps in an effort to shorten this up, assuming you guys that are familiar w/ this can auto fill the details.

1. downloaded icake-s2dt-62 and lba48dd fron PTV.
2. downloaded the other files from DDB as described in gunny's unguide.
3. Decompressed any files as needed.
4. dropped to DOS, renamed the 6.2 image to "000001" and removing the ".ISO" extension
5. created/burned the PTV Boot CD w/out any problems.
6. In CD Creator I drag and drop the 13 files as shown in gunny's screen shot and burn that CD w/out any problems. ( I have tried two different burners w/ 2 different burning software packages w/ CD-R disks only w/ same results).
7. When I boot from that PTV Boot CD, I only have to hit enter thru two prompts and I get my Linux command prompt.
8. I can mount the CD Drive w/no problems....CD /CDROM....sh zipper.sh..... Welcome to Zipper is displayed, where is your drive, do you want to apply image....
Heres where the problem is:
9. As soon as I hit "y" to continue it says applying image this may take a few moments.... and instantly comes up w/ the "Restore Failed: Unknown Backup Format" error.

Again, trying to keep this short for you guys.... Any help is appreciated.

Gunnyman
06-04-2006, 11:34 AM
step 4 is your mistake
you have to burn the iso image to a cd and copy the 000001 file from /images OR use a program like magic iso to extract it from the iso image file.

HDTVsportsfan
06-04-2006, 11:52 AM
step 4 is your mistake
you have to burn the iso image to a cd and copy the 000001 file from /images OR use a program like magic iso to extract it from the iso image file.

Hey Gunny,

I feel privaleged the master himself(along w/rbautch of course) has responded. :) I'm comfortable at the keyboard and getting my hands dirty. I'll re-read your post a couple of times and the unguide and take another stab at it. I appreciate your time.

MATT1981M
06-04-2006, 01:40 PM
step 4 is your mistake
you have to burn the iso image to a cd and copy the 000001 file from /images OR use a program like magic iso to extract it from the iso image file.
or use a program like winiso (many cracks avail on the internet) to open the .iso file and extract that file without having to burn it first

HDTVsportsfan
06-04-2006, 03:50 PM
or use a program like winiso (many cracks avail on the internet) to open the .iso file and extract that file without having to burn it first

Hey Matt.... Everybody,

Life has taken over the last few hours. Lunch for my 4 year old, pool, mow the grass.... lucky for me it started raining here. lol

I'm way behind the curve on the TIVO modifications. I just haven't had a need to do this until my HDD died in my DVR80. This is my first go 'round at it.

I'm a humble guy, I admit it, when it said rename the file....I downloaded this 288MB file and I renamed it. Didn't know/realize the "image" had to extracted out first.

Not trying to be lazy... I continue to plug away.

TIA..... I'll update later.

rpdre1
06-04-2006, 03:56 PM
or use a program like winiso (many cracks avail on the internet) to open the .iso file and extract that file without having to burn it first


this freeware program can extract files from iso's

http://www.7-zip.org/

no need to use winiso cracks

HDTVsportsfan
06-04-2006, 04:26 PM
OK folks,

It's restoring now. I'll continue the process.

Thanks to all.

EDITED 10 minutes later....

Can I still run tweaks.sh if I don't plan on using the network features and telnet?
I'm still researching myself....I'll check back. Thanks.

EDITED 15 minutes later.....
Nevermind, found the answer in post #512. I might add the line manually like gunny has suggested if i get error51. This unit is in my kids playroom, no need for networking. What the hell, I'll do it anyway if it makes this easier.

Adam1115
06-04-2006, 05:50 PM
this freeware program can extract files from iso's

http://www.7-zip.org/

no need to use winiso cracks

Or WinRAR will too...

HDTVsportsfan
06-04-2006, 05:57 PM
rbautch, gunny, matt, adam, and rpder1,

Installed the drive back in the unit. Everything works fine. Did the 721 routine. No error 51. I'll screw around with the network stuff this coming week.

Thanks for you guys for your assitance, comments, and suggestions.

Hopefully it's the thought that counts. :) So here it goes. I hope I can return the favor in some way sometime in the future.

Thanks again.

Bobbis2000
06-05-2006, 11:15 AM
Hi,

First of all much thanks to rbauch and Gunnyman - this is so cool
I zippered my tivo last week without surprisingly few hassles.
I have a few questions that I couldn't find my searching this huge thread.

1. I was hoping to see star ratings of movies after zippering, but don't. I said yes to installing showcases and yellow stars. Any ideas how to get them?

2. Last night I deleted a few entries in my now showing list and after I deleted each one the Now Showing went completely blank. It was restored after a few nervous minutes. Can I prevent this?

3. I don't see Hackman in TivoWeb plus - do I need to reinstall?

4. I have set it up so I can access tivowebplus from my work computer (outside my home network) by going to xx.xx.xx.xx:8080 where xx is my dsl router ip and 8080 is the port I've set in tivoweb.cfg.
Is it possible to telnet or ftp into my tivo from work as well? Do I need to designate the 8080 port is that just from tivowebplus?


Thanks again,
Rob

ttodd1
06-05-2006, 11:36 AM
Hi,

First of all much thanks to rbauch and Gunnyman - this is so cool
I zippered my tivo last week without surprisingly few hassles.
I have a few questions that I couldn't find my searching this huge thread.

1. I was hoping to see star ratings of movies after zippering, but don't. I said yes to installing showcases and yellow stars. Any ideas how to get them?

2. Last night I deleted a few entries in my now showing list and after I deleted each one the Now Showing went completely blank. It was restored after a few nervous minutes. Can I prevent this?

3. I don't see Hackman in TivoWeb plus - do I need to reinstall?

4. I have set it up so I can access tivowebplus from my work computer (outside my home network) by going to xx.xx.xx.xx:8080 where xx is my dsl router ip and 8080 is the port I've set in tivoweb.cfg.
Is it possible to telnet or ftp into my tivo from work as well? Do I need to designate the 8080 port is that just from tivowebplus?


Thanks again,
Rob


1. may take a few days to load.

2. check the wiki for the fix for this.

3. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3931964&&#post3931964

Gunnyman
06-05-2006, 12:50 PM
Yellow stars are NOT the movie ratings. Dtivo's don't have them.
Yellow stars are ads on the top level tivo menu

Bobbis2000
06-05-2006, 01:14 PM
Thanks for responding Gunny and Ttodd1:

Poop, I was hoping to get those movie ratings. Are there any hacks to get them to show up? Sometimes it helps me find movies to record that I would otherwise miss.

Should I be able to telnet or ftp into my tivo from work using the port I opened in my router (8080)?

Thanks again,
Rob

rbautch
06-05-2006, 01:20 PM
It's not very secure, but yes you can telnet and ftp. there was a thread here recently about doing it securely. I myself prefer to use a free service like logmein.com to remotely connect to my home pc, and then telnet in from there.

Gunnyman
06-05-2006, 01:21 PM
ftp is port 21
telnet is port 23
8080 is for http://
the movie ratings aren't sent at all in the guide data so no way to add them.

cheer
06-05-2006, 03:15 PM
Thanks for responding Gunny and Ttodd1:

Poop, I was hoping to get those movie ratings. Are there any hacks to get them to show up? Sometimes it helps me find movies to record that I would otherwise miss.

Should I be able to telnet or ftp into my tivo from work using the port I opened in my router (8080)?

Thanks again,
Rob
As others have mentioned, telnet is port 23 and ftp is port 21. You'll have to configure your router to forward both of those ports to your Tivo.

Also, wherever you work, you might have a firewall that makes things more difficult. FTP should work, although I expect you will need to use PASV mode. Telnet may not work at all -- it sure doesn't from where I work, and I'm pretty sure most corporate firewalls block telnet out of the box.

Next, of course, is the "should you do this" discussion. IMO...no. Tivos are slow, insecure, weak devices. You can crash one with a portscanner, and of course they have no concept of passwords. Opening one up to the net is just not good.

Instead, you might consider setting up some kind of proxy or VPN. Loads of ways to do this -- a couple of googles should set you straight up.

supersteve
06-05-2006, 04:27 PM
I have been lurking in these forums for quite some time and finally got the nerve up to hack my DirecTivo. I upgraded from the stock 40Gig drive to a spacious 300Gig Western Digital using the Weaknees guide and mfs tools. I then put the zipper on the new drive and then ran it via telnet (I hope I did that right as I only use macs at home I hate Windows. I opened a terminal window and simply used 'telnet tivoipaddress' as 'telnet -t vt100 tivoipaddress' is not a valid command. If that is wrong could somebody point me to the right command?) To get back on track, when I ran the zipper it could not find superpatch as I have 1.2 and it was looking for 1.1. How do I run superpatch manually?

Furthermore, how do I update the zipper to make sure I have the latest and greatest?

Thanks for all of you hard work Gunny and rbautch!

Luv2DrvFst
06-05-2006, 04:57 PM
I have been lurking in these forums for quite some time and finally got the nerve up to hack my DirecTivo. I upgraded from the stock 40Gig drive to a spacious 300Gig Western Digital using the Weaknees guide and mfs tools. I then put the zipper on the new drive and then ran it via telnet (I hope I did that right as I only use macs at home I hate Windows. I opened a terminal window and simply used 'telnet tivoipaddress' as 'telnet -t vt100 tivoipaddress' is not a valid command. If that is wrong could somebody point me to the right command?) To get back on track, when I ran the zipper it could not find superpatch as I have 1.2 and it was looking for 1.1. How do I run superpatch manually?

Furthermore, how do I update the zipper to make sure I have the latest and greatest?

Thanks for all of you hard work Gunny and rbautch!
You ran zipper via telnet?? I think you mean that you ran the enhancements script via telnet. Check here http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=265929&page=201&pp=30&highlight=superpatch+1+2 for the superpatch question (post 6028)

Use telnet -K tivoipaddress for a Mac. That's a capital 'K' - it stops the echo of every character you type.

How did you run the zipper on a mac? I didn't think that was possible. Curious.

rbautch
06-05-2006, 05:24 PM
I opened a terminal window and simply used 'telnet tivoipaddress' as 'telnet -t vt100 tivoipaddress' is not a valid command. If that is wrong could somebody point me to the right command?) I hate to ask the obvious, but did you substitute your actual IP address for "tivoipaddress"?

tall1
06-05-2006, 07:54 PM
Just a quick comment on performance of my zippered HD-Tivos. I have been reading many posts here at TCF and other forums about how slow the UI is on the HD-Tivos. On my HD-Tivos since zippering them a few months ago, the UI runs at very acceptable processing speeds. I have had upwards of 70+ SP and often the 250gig HDs (2) are at 70-80% capacity, and yet those things don't seem to negatively impact performance.

I can only attribute my positive experience to the fact my HD-Tivos have a cron setup, thanks to rbautch, that clears the logs and automatically reboots them twice a week.

Everytime I read a post complaining how doga$$ slow the menus respond on the HD-Tivo I want to reply that they need to get their doga$$ over here and zipper.

But I realize alot of folks don't have the time or temperment it takes to learn how to exploit this wonderful world Gunny and rbautch created. Thanks again guys. I felt compelled to let HD-Tivo owners know improved performance is reason alone to zipper.

supersteve
06-05-2006, 09:11 PM
You ran zipper via telnet?? I think you mean that you ran the enhancements script via telnet. Check here [LOCATION REMOVED] for the superpatch question (post 6028)

Use telnet -K tivoipaddress for a Mac. That's a capital 'K' - it stops the echo of every character you type.

How did you run the zipper on a mac? I didn't think that was possible. Curious.

I obviously did a poor job of explaining in my hurried post. I zippered in the normal fashion, I meant to say that I was telneting and running the script from a mac and that the command listed in the instructions was invalid. The '-K' was exactly what I was looking for. Going to try to run superpatch now.

rbautch, I did indeed substitute my the Tivo's ip address for 'tivoipaddress'. My main problem was that I wanted to make sure there weren't any flags for telnet that were necessary for running the script.

Thanks for the help

racer24
06-05-2006, 09:54 PM
I have been looking through posts and have some questions about using a wireless adapter. Do none of the 802.11g adapters work AT ALL with the "zipper" or does it just not work at the higher speeds? Also, I read that to get the script to run, I will have to use a wired ethernet first before the wireless will work. Is this correct or is this outdated information? Also, I do not have a true router just a 802.11b wireless AP. I am using Windows XP pro as an "internet gateway" with an IP of 192.168.0.1 Do I use that as the IP of the router when I run the "zipper?"

Thanks,
Racer24

ForrestB
06-05-2006, 10:35 PM
That info is still current - no 802.11g wireless USB adapter will work on a Zippered Tivo. If you want high speed wireless, you'll need to connect a wired USB to ethernet adapter (such as the Netgear FA120) and then attach a 802.11g ethernet bridge (Zyxel P330W or certain hacked Linksys and Belden 802.11g routers) or attach a wireless gaming adapter to the USB to ethernet adapter.

brj8826
06-05-2006, 10:57 PM
I've been out of the game for a while but am considering taking the 6.2 plunge with my DSR7000 and my HDVR2, both hacked with 3.1.1e. I don't mind losing all of my recordings. I noticed on the InstantCake site there is a seperate download for each recorder. What there be any negative consequences of using the same image for both units?

slydog75
06-05-2006, 11:00 PM
I've been out of the game for a while but am considering taking the 6.2 plunge with my DSR7000 and my HDVR2, both hacked with 3.1.1e. I don't mind losing all of my recordings. I noticed on the InstantCake site there is a seperate download for each recorder. What there be any negative consequences of using the same image for both units?

Nope, not really.. you'll just need to run the 51killer.tcl script. You'll initially get an error about not being able to play any of the recordings.. Run this script and you'll be good to go.

brj8826
06-05-2006, 11:03 PM
Thanks slydog. I am a bit frustrated that I had to wait a whole three minutes for my question to be answered. :D

Quick question, I thought Clear and Delete everything used to take care of this as well. Is that, or was that, the case. If so, is the script just a faster way of doing it rather than waiting an hour?

rbautch
06-05-2006, 11:19 PM
51killer takes 2 seconds. Clear and delete will also wipe your network settings. If you let the Zipper install your image, you wont need to run 51killer or do a clear and delete.

brj8826
06-05-2006, 11:27 PM
51killer takes 2 seconds. Clear and delete will also wipe your network settings. If you let the Zipper install your image, you wont need to run 51killer or do a clear and delete.

Awesome, I'll do just that! 6.2 here I come.

Is there one image that would be better to get than the other? Or does it even matter?

bman12
06-06-2006, 12:08 AM
Oh I am such a noob...but....zippered/hacked/enlarged and did all the other fun stuff to three TIVOs!
I have one small question. I used Joe Editor for the first time to make some required changes for some fun stuff while telneted into the TIVO. The only way I could make those changes was to type rw before starting the joe editor on the file needing changes. Did I have to do anything after this to make the file not rw? Have I compromised the safety of my TIVO? I would need noob like specific instructions.

rbautch
06-06-2006, 01:05 AM
Oh I am such a noob...but....zippered/hacked/enlarged and did all the other fun stuff to three TIVOs!
I have one small question. I used Joe Editor for the first time to make some required changes for some fun stuff while telneted into the TIVO. The only way I could make those changes was to type rw before starting the joe editor on the file needing changes. Did I have to do anything after this to make the file not rw? Have I compromised the safety of my TIVO? I would need noob like specific instructions.Type ro to make the filesystem read only again. No big deal.

Nandy
06-06-2006, 09:28 AM
I am having an issue with the reboot command. If cron or I issue the reboot command the box will stop at the "Please wait, Powering up" message and sits there until I do a power cycle on the unit. Anyone has an idea of what could be wrong or what can I do to trouble shoot this problem. I will just take the reboot from cron but that does not solve the problem. It just mask it and I would like to fix it even if it takes for me to redo the hd.
Thanks!

original thread:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=301473

Hichhiker
06-06-2006, 11:05 AM
First of all, thank you for the zipper - I am an experienced UNIX user and have hacked a number of S1 units, but this was a new high in the simplicity of upgrades.

Thanks to zipper I finally took a plunge and went to S2 on my DTivos. I love MRV, but a question occured to me - correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that I can use an un-subbed S2 SA box that was "superpatched" as a "view-only" device for MRV with Zippered DTivos - is it possible to do same with a DVD Recorder Tivo to be able to also dump my recordings onto DVD?

Thanks.

-HH

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 11:07 AM
Hichhiker:
I have no idea honestly, but a dvd burner in a computer is a heck of a lot easier to burn shows with.

Hichhiker
06-06-2006, 11:37 AM
I have no idea honestly, but a dvd burner in a computer is a heck of a lot easier to burn shows with.

I've never had good luck burning video DVDs on PC. It was always too complex, required warped video conversions, authoring software vs. burning software, and frequently ended up looking like crap (assuming DVD Burner actually burned it) Granted last time I tried was 3-4 years ago when DVD burners were first out and software for them sucked - this may be much better these days, maybe I should try again. Out of curiousity, what do you use to make DVDs?

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 11:40 AM
my mac and tivotool
a pc user should google tytool

Hichhiker
06-06-2006, 11:49 AM
my mac and tivotool
a pc user should google tytool

Wow, did not realize tytool now authors DVDs (another item its been years since I tried) I am still curious about the hardware solution, but now I got something potentialy better to play with. Thanks!!!

-HH

cheer
06-06-2006, 11:55 AM
First of all, thank you for the zipper - I am an experienced UNIX user and have hacked a number of S1 units, but this was a new high in the simplicity of upgrades.

Thanks to zipper I finally took a plunge and went to S2 on my DTivos. I love MRV, but a question occured to me - correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that I can use an un-subbed S2 SA box that was "superpatched" as a "view-only" device for MRV with Zippered DTivos - is it possible to do same with a DVD Recorder Tivo to be able to also dump my recordings onto DVD?

Thanks.

-HH
Not sure if an unsubbed SA S2 can be used as a "MRV station" -- I do know that an unsubbed DTivo can.

However, I'm pretty sure that the DVD burner units do not allow burning of MRV'd shows.

cheer
06-06-2006, 12:03 PM
I've never had good luck burning video DVDs on PC. It was always too complex, required warped video conversions, authoring software vs. burning software, and frequently ended up looking like crap (assuming DVD Burner actually burned it) Granted last time I tried was 3-4 years ago when DVD burners were first out and software for them sucked - this may be much better these days, maybe I should try again. Out of curiousity, what do you use to make DVDs?
Shouldn't require any of the leaps you mentioned.

Conversion is almost wholly unnecessary -- Tivo videos are basically just MPEG2 with a few twists. If your DVD player is relatively modern and tolerant, all you have to do is mux to an MPG or VOB, author and burn.

Keep in mind...anything that the DVD-burner standalones do will involve video transcoding/conversion to the "standard" DVD resolution of 720x480. That will not look very good -- it's upscaling the video. (Unless you recorded on a standalone Tivo at "best," that is.)

So, OK, it's not a one-button process on the PC. But it's not difficult, and you have a lot of control. Basically:
Get the video (as much as I can say here)
Use TyTool to edit out commercials or whatever
Mux to VOB and create .IFO files with TyTool
Burn with Nero
And shalamy-galamy-zoop, you have a DVD. If you want to get fancy, you can use the wonderful (and inexpensive) DVD-Lab to do just about anything you want.

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 12:08 PM
And shalamy-galamy-zoop....

/Stolen. :D

supersteve
06-06-2006, 12:14 PM
I know that I need vserver in order to use tivotool. How do I install vserver and ensure that it is running/starts on reboot? Is it already installed if I have zippered my drive?

These questions seem trivial but I have been unsuccessful in finding straight answers and the tivotool wiki is down.

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 12:18 PM
it IS installed
and it lives in /busybox
set that in tivotool's preferences and then it will only be run if needed.

supersteve
06-06-2006, 12:37 PM
it IS installed
and it lives in /busybox
set that in tivotool's preferences and then it will only be run if needed.

Thanks Gunny I will try this tonight. I am at work right now. Once this works, I need to get tivoserver running on my mac.

cheer
06-06-2006, 01:05 PM
/Stolen. :D
Are you saying that you stole it from me, or are you saying that you are aware that I stole it from someone else? :)

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 01:13 PM
ok double stolen :p
if you steal something stolen by someone else is it still stealing? :D

cheer
06-06-2006, 05:30 PM
ok double stolen :p
if you steal something stolen by someone else is it still stealing? :D
Depends on whether you buy into recursive morality or not. :)

bupkes
06-06-2006, 07:34 PM
Newbie help:

I Zipper'd my DSR 704 (40G A + 80G B). I have bash access, can go to tivowebplus on my lan etc. However, I can't access Tivo from the TV. What have I done wrong? .. I've rechecked the cabling from the unit to the TV .

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 07:36 PM
what do you mean can't access?
what kind of connection to your tv?
suggestion if you are using coax :
make sure you aren't plugging your tv out into sat 1 or two in :D

supersteve
06-06-2006, 08:20 PM
it IS installed
and it lives in /busybox
set that in tivotool's preferences and then it will only be run if needed.

Can't get it to connect. I set tivotool's preferences to /busybox and tried /busybox/vserver. No lock on either. If I try to start vserver from the menu, it tries to connect and then it still says vserver stopped in the status bar. Attempting to refresh the list obviously then returns an error connecting to the vserver.

I have the software firewall turned off and disabled lil snitch also.

Any idea?

*****Nevermind*****
I had to telnet into the tivo and start vserver. Is there any way to start it remotely?

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 08:21 PM
ok from bash execute vserver &
report back what happens

supersteve
06-06-2006, 09:45 PM
ok from bash execute vserver &
report back what happens

vserver starts but I then have to leave the terminal window open or else it shuts down. Is there a more automatic way to do it?

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 09:48 PM
add vserver & to your author file

Redux
06-06-2006, 09:50 PM
shalamy-galamy-zoop, you have a DVD.With a Mac you don't even need the magic incantation, just use Tivotool to choose the file from a list <on wherever it is; I'm not saying> and select "burn to DVD"

Gunnyman
06-06-2006, 09:51 PM
on the Mac you have to say "Shazammm"
At least that's what I do. :D

Supersmooth
06-06-2006, 10:17 PM
You guys are fantastic. Gunny - I hear Mortons is coming to Greenville. PM me and you'll be my guest - for all the others here that you give endless help to!

I zippered my SD-DVR40 - successfully - complete with FA120 adapter. One quirk:

The red recording light comes on for no reason but "Now Playing" shows a blank screen. I can only stop the recording light by re-booting. Any thoughts?

Supersmooth
06-06-2006, 10:31 PM
The recording light is on now. I can ping my Tivo but I get no response to logging in to my Tivo using TWP using its static IP address. - I have been able to log in since I hacked it.

cheer
06-06-2006, 11:24 PM
The recording light is on now. I can ping my Tivo but I get no response to logging in to my Tivo using TWP using its static IP address. - I have been able to log in since I hacked it.
Can you telnet into it?

Hichhiker
06-07-2006, 12:08 AM
I had to telnet into the tivo and start vserver. Is there any way to start it remotely?

Actually, I think hackman extension to tivowebplus has an option to start/stop it although you have to get hackman to work first.

Note, I never used it myself, so I dont know if it works.

-HH

MATT1981M
06-07-2006, 03:31 AM
The recording light is on now. I can ping my Tivo but I get no response to logging in to my Tivo using TWP using its static IP address. - I have been able to log in since I hacked it.
as to the blank npl, check the troubleshooting section of the wiki (http://www.thewallens.net/Zipperwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)... i would try to telnet in as cheer asked.. i would then restart twp manually.... if that doesnt correct it it may have been deleted or corrupted somehow????..... you can always try to reinstall twp manually as well...

Supersmooth
06-07-2006, 09:51 AM
Can you telnet into it?

The orange recording light was on this morning before I saw your question. I rebooted and yes - I could telnet in and get bash-2.02# prompt. I did not try while the light was on.

Supersmooth
06-07-2006, 09:56 AM
Well - it seems that I may not have been waiting long enough for the screen to refresh. It seems to take it's merry old time. I just checked it and it took 20 seconds to paint the screen on the TV!

Apologies - seems this blank screen issue is covered in the Troubleshooting notes.

Gunnyman
06-07-2006, 09:58 AM
you still probably need to apply one of the empty NPL fixes.
I suggest adding your WAN DNS info (found in your router's wan info page) to the tivo using the netconfig app in tivoweb.

Supersmooth
06-07-2006, 10:24 AM
you still probably need to apply one of the empty NPL fixes.
I suggest adding your WAN DNS info (found in your router's wan info page) to the tivo using the netconfig app in tivoweb.

My Router's DNS address is in Netconfig - I just checked - 192.168.15.1 (Linksys router). I am using a static address in the Tivo :( .

Gunnyman
06-07-2006, 11:11 AM
this can easily be changed to your ISP's DNS server.
It's what I did when the empty NPL issue hit me when my linksys gave up the ghost and I replaced it with a Belkin.

Supersmooth
06-07-2006, 02:12 PM
this can easily be changed to your ISP's DNS server.
It's what I did when the empty NPL issue hit me when my linksys gave up the ghost and I replaced it with a Belkin.

Both problems resolved!!!!

I changed the DNS to the WAN address and NPL now works perfectly.
2nd problem - Duh!!!!I did not see that loads of suggestions were flagged to record until a prog just started recording. So once I removed flag - all appears to be just peachy!!!

Thanks to all for great support. Now onto the other units!!

PS Tytools works great too!

Gunnyman
06-07-2006, 03:45 PM
:up: :up:
can't have just ONE Dtivo can we?
I have 3 active and a few in a closet myself. :p

alfredo2049
06-07-2006, 04:28 PM
Hey all,

Very happy to see this easy script to use. I ran into a problem though, wondering if you guys may know the solution. This is my process:

1. Moved tivo harddrive into a pc, ran the script, and everything went well.

2. Moved the harddrive back, and used a Linksys 100tx.

3. Turned on, and it did NOT do an automatic reboot but the lights were on.

4. Did a manual reboot but did not work (no ping or telnet)

5. Went to compusa to buy the NetGear FA120 and turned of the tivo, connected the netgear, and turned it back on.

6. No automatic reboot, no ping, but the lights were on.

7. Did a manual reboot but again it did not work. The ping or telnet didn't work.

Any ideas or suggestions? Do i need to run the script again since I tried it with a linksys adapter first, then the netgear? It was set up to be wired.

Thanks!

EDIT: I have an RCA DVR 40 DirecTivo

Gunnyman
06-07-2006, 04:52 PM
if you have green lights on your FA120 then it IS functioning and has an IP address. Now you just need to find it.
Are you using DHCP?
if so, check your router's dhcp client table to find the unit's IP address.

cheer
06-07-2006, 06:13 PM
:up: :up:
can't have just ONE Dtivo can we?
I have 3 active and a few in a closet myself. :p
It's 2006, man. Tell the DTivos to just be themselves and stop denying who they really are.

MATT1981M
06-07-2006, 06:15 PM
It's 2006, man. Tell the DTivos to just be themselves and stop denying who they really are.
now that is funny....

Gunnyman
06-07-2006, 06:27 PM
It's 2006, man. Tell the DTivos to just be themselves and stop denying who they really are.
I said A closet not THE Closet
:D

alfredo2049
06-08-2006, 03:13 AM
if you have green lights on your FA120 then it IS functioning and has an IP address. Now you just need to find it.
Are you using DHCP?
if so, check your router's dhcp client table to find the unit's IP address.

thanks...i realized the problem. Since it did not automatically reboot, i just ran the script again, and started up the tivo with the new netgear, and it automatically rebooted and everything works now. I have run the enhancements and works good. Thanks!

Bobbis2000
06-08-2006, 08:47 AM
How do I uninstall or disable MRV?
I think I stupidly installed it when zippering and now I have the blank entries/delay in now playing.
I only have one networked TiVo so I don't really need it.
Am I correct in determining this is why Now Playing is sometimes blank for a while?
Thanks again, you guys are the best

SteelersFan
06-08-2006, 08:56 AM
How do I uninstall or disable MRV?
I think I stupidly installed it when zippering and now I have the blank entries/delay in now playing.
I only have one networked TiVo so I don't really need it.
Am I correct in determining this is why Now Playing is sometimes blank for a while?
Thanks again, you guys are the best
Please read info in posts 6168-6171 of this thread and apply the fixes discussed regarding empty npl (now playing list).

supersteve
06-08-2006, 08:58 AM
How do I uninstall or disable MRV?
I think I stupidly installed it when zippering and now I have the blank entries/delay in now playing.
I only have one networked TiVo so I don't really need it.
Am I correct in determining this is why Now Playing is sometimes blank for a while?
Thanks again, you guys are the best

The best solution is to follow the troubleshooting instructions on the wiki Zipper Troubleshooting (http://www.thewallens.net/Zipperwiki/index.php?title=Troubleshooting). This way, you could add additional MRV capable Tivos in the future or even run Tivoserver (http://tivoserver.sourceforge.net/) on your computer and serve up videos from there.

mercurial
06-08-2006, 10:31 AM
Please read info on page 206 of this thread and apply the fixes discussed regarding empty npl (now playing list).

Just FYI. You might not want to give references to page numbers since everyone can set different posts/page options. Post number or a link to the post will work better.

Gunnyman
06-08-2006, 10:35 AM
for real I'm only on page 124.

Bobbis2000
06-08-2006, 11:50 AM
OK, let's see if my little pea brain has this right:
If I go in the tivowebplus, click on Net Config and change the DNS to either 0.0.0.0 or bellsouth's DNS (my ISP) that should resolve the empty/slow NPL issue?

Thanks again,
Rob

SteelersFan
06-08-2006, 12:05 PM
Just FYI. You might not want to give references to page numbers since everyone can set different posts/page options. Post number or a link to the post will work better.
for real I'm only on page 124.
You mean people have the nerve to use settings other than mine?!?! :D ;)

Good point! Sorry if I caused any confusion.

rbautch
06-08-2006, 12:49 PM
OK, let's see if my little pea brain has this right:
If I go in the tivowebplus, click on Net Config and change the DNS to either 0.0.0.0 or bellsouth's DNS (my ISP) that should resolve the empty/slow NPL issue?

Thanks again,
RobYes. The latter is preferred.

Bobbis2000
06-08-2006, 01:15 PM
OK thanks.
I want to add that the free logmein service is great for accessing my home computer and then telnet or ftping into my tivo.
It gets pretty good reviews on cnet as well:
http://reviews.cnet.com/LogMeIn/4505-3536_7-31394067.html

Thanks for the recommendation rbautch!

Rob

kimsan
06-08-2006, 01:23 PM
Hey Gunny,

*IF* (emphasis all mine) HDTiVos ever get a 6.x release, how long would it take for an updated Zipper/rbautch package to arrive?

I know I'm counting chickens before D* even lays the eggs :)

BTW: The Zipper still rocks! Many thanks again!

Gunnyman
06-08-2006, 01:43 PM
there wouldn't need to be one assuming the 6.xx that gets to HDTivos (ha ha) is the same as the SD Tivo version.

cheer
06-08-2006, 07:02 PM
I'm guessing it won't be exactly the same -- at the very least, I would think tivoapp would be have to be different. In fact, I'm wagering that if we did get an upgrade it won't be 6.2...6.3 or somesuch, perhaps.

At which point everyone will have to check the new version out, figure out the various tivoapp patches, etc.

Once the new software version is hackable, I would imagine Gunny & rbautch could upgrade Zipper lickity-split.

MATT1981M
06-09-2006, 01:10 AM
for real I'm only on page 124.
me i am on page1... makes things alot easier for me to view newest posts first...

MATT1981M
06-09-2006, 01:14 AM
OK, let's see if my little pea brain has this right:
If I go in the tivowebplus, click on Net Config and change the DNS to either 0.0.0.0 or bellsouth's DNS (my ISP) that should resolve the empty/slow NPL issue?

Thanks again,
Rob
the second should correct it like gunny stated... if not the resolv.conf file will also need to be updated manually.... i am not at home and i still have not got a new dsl modem (port forwarding doesnt work even though enabled....long story :mad: ) so i cant telnet in and give you the location of the file... i will edit this post later w/ that info when i have a chance...

MATT1981M
06-09-2006, 01:17 AM
Hey Gunny,

*IF* (emphasis all mine) HDTiVos ever get a 6.x release, how long would it take for an updated Zipper/rbautch package to arrive?

I know I'm counting chickens before D* even lays the eggs :)

BTW: The Zipper still rocks! Many thanks again!
i agree w/ gunny....it should work.. the tivoapp would be different but that shouldnt affect much...i just hope that they dont release a neutered version that is missing the mrv/hmo code like the current version that is already on the HR10-250.....

cheer
06-09-2006, 12:50 PM
i agree w/ gunny....it should work.. the tivoapp would be different but that shouldnt affect much...i just hope that they dont release a neutered version that is missing the mrv/hmo code like the current version that is already on the HR10-250.....
Tivoapp being different means a different superpatch, at the very least...all the patch locations will be different.

And just to be pedantic ('cos I am), the current version isn't neutered, just old. :)

MRV will present some interesting challenges, though...wonder what happens when you try to MRV an HD show to a non-HD Tivo?

kimsan
06-10-2006, 09:35 AM
there wouldn't need to be one assuming the 6.xx that gets to HDTivos (ha ha) is the same as the SD Tivo version.

Hmmm. Well here's hoping the day comes. Thanks!

kimsan
06-10-2006, 09:37 AM
Tivoapp being different means a different superpatch, at the very least...all the patch locations will be different.

And just to be pedantic ('cos I am), the current version isn't neutered, just old. :)

MRV will present some interesting challenges, though...wonder what happens when you try to MRV an HD show to a non-HD Tivo?

Take the easy approach. Update to all HD boxes and compatibility is a non issue :)

Works in my house anyway.

cheer
06-10-2006, 12:53 PM
Take the easy approach. Update to all HD boxes and compatibility is a non issue :)

Works in my house anyway.
Hah. Well if money is no object...but I can't see spending hundreds per box to hook them up to non-HD TVs. I've got five of the SD units in operation, and only one is connected to an HD set...and it's a MRV station only!

omosha
06-11-2006, 12:32 AM
Hey all,

Does anyone know of a how-to guide for the zipper tivo hack on an OS X operating system?

MATT1981M
06-11-2006, 12:48 AM
Tivoapp being different means a different superpatch, at the very least...all the patch locations will be different.

And just to be pedantic ('cos I am), the current version isn't neutered, just old. :)

MRV will present some interesting challenges, though...wonder what happens when you try to MRV an HD show to a non-HD Tivo?
i know it is old...but it is "neutered" in the sense that MRV and HMO coding is not present, instead of on the sd dtivos where it is disabled....as to what would happen if you went hd to non hd unit.... i dont know... i HOPE it would still play the recording but output a non hd video signal... but my luck it would not work....sd to sd should still work... i dont have a hr10-250 but if they release a new version that has the mrv/hmo coding in it i will get one....

cheer
06-11-2006, 06:02 AM
as to what would happen if you went hd to non hd unit.... i dont know... i HOPE it would still play the recording but output a non hd video signal... but my luck it would not work....
IMO it is extremely unlikely that this would work. The SD Tivo would have to scale the video down (or the HD Tivo would have to scale it before MRVing it), and since the boxes don't have encoders, I don't see that happening.

For what it's worth, I've manually inserted some HD stuff onto an SD Tivo. If it's 480p it seems to work fine, but 720p or 1080i vids don't -- audio but no video.

ForrestB
06-11-2006, 07:24 AM
Does anyone know of a how-to guide for the zipper tivo hack on an OS X operating system?

There has been some effort to hack a Tivo under OSX (can't locate the link know) but the hardware requirements for hacking DirecTivo dictate it simply won't work on the vast majority of Macs. To run MFS Tools 2 to backup and restore a Tivo hard drive, you'll need a dual IDE controller computer with LBA48 addressing (for drives larger than 128 GB). In Mac terms - this means a PowerMac G4 Quicksilver (2002 model) thru the MDD (2004) only. That's the entire Mac compatability list - no iMacs, eMacs, iBooks, macMinis, PowerBooks, MacBooks, PowerMac G3, PowerMac G5 and no pre2002 PowerMac G4's.

That said, once MFS Tools 2 or the Tivo Zipper is run on a PC to initally modify the Tivo hard drive - there's NO PROBLEM accessing a hacked DirecTivo from ANY POWERPC BASED MAC RUNNING OSX 10.4. Accessing a hacked Tivo is as simple as opening the Terminal under OSX and typing 'telnet -K ipaddress' where ipaddress is the Tivo. Tivotool is an excellent free OSX program to watch Tivo shows on your Mac and it can burn DVD's. Get it at www.tivotool.com

Update: If you Google MFSTools OSX, you'll find more info on the OSX version of MFSTools. I haven't found any binaries (lots of broken links pointing to www.mactivo.com) but if you're a C programmer familiar with XCode, feel free to download the CVS listings and compile them yourself. This is WAY beyond my abilities.

joshhuggins
06-11-2006, 12:07 PM
I've finally got things working for me this weekend, ahhhhh. But... when I try to FTP into my Tivo using windows explorer or SmartFTP seems I only have read only access. I was going to replace the Almost THere image. I've tried to set the tvbin folder to 777 and also the file it's self but I can't get access to overwite the file. I've search the forums here but can't find this directly addressed. TIA for any help. Love this forum!

Gunnyman
06-11-2006, 12:17 PM
the mighty readme file on your tools disk will tell you you can use an alias of rw to make tivo read write, then reset back to read only with ro. Do these commands from a bash prompt.

joshhuggins
06-11-2006, 01:07 PM
Hmmm.... I don't seem to have a read me file on my tools disk, just the files shown in the CD contents in the zipper guide. Any other ideas, or where I can find a copy of that readme file?

(Edit) found it, it the rbautch_files.tgz file

Gunnyman
06-11-2006, 01:52 PM
I've also posted it in the wiki (found in my sig) because it IS sort of hard to find.

mikellanes
06-11-2006, 03:36 PM
Anyway to use the new Mac Version of TiVo Desktop to stream movies to a HDVR2? I have enabled the video streaming, but only the music and photos show up on my hacked TiVos. Am I correct in assuming this will not work with a DirecTiVo for some reason? Or is there a hack to enable this?

cheer
06-11-2006, 04:04 PM
You are correct -- you cannot send videos to a DirecTivo with Tivo Desktop. TivoToGo is required (which requires Tivo software 7.x).

Adam1115
06-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Hey all,

Does anyone know of a how-to guide for the zipper tivo hack on an OS X operating system?

Because of the open nature of PC's, it's probably not worth the effort and not worth the risking to cracking open your newer MAC and swapping hard drives around, booting linux, etc.

Even on the PC side, I have an old PII 233 (people are throwing these things in the garbage...) that I use for TiVo. Just not worthing screwing up the family PC to play with the TiVo's..

At the risk of corrupting your pure Mac household, I'd pick up an old beater PII or PIII for next to nothing and use it for hacking your TiVo. If you keep an eye out people throw this stuff out all the time.. (I dumped about 10 PII's in the dumpster a couple months back...)

ForrestB
06-11-2006, 06:49 PM
Bought a working DVR40 off ebay and installed a new 250GB drive with software version 6.2 on it and tried to use the Access card from my DSR6000. It's a no go according to the two reps I talked to at DirecTV so I had to cough up $20 for a new Access card. The card will be here in 3 days. The question is should I pull the drive and Zipper it now, or wait until the new Access card arrives. Is there any problem activating a Zippered Tivo for the 1st time?

cheer
06-11-2006, 06:53 PM
I don't think it matters, but my personal preference is to activate unhacked. This way I can identify any problems with the Tivo itself prior to hacking, so that when I do have issues I'm not wondering whether it's a problem with the hacks or a problem with the Tivo itself.

MATT1981M
06-11-2006, 06:57 PM
IMO it is extremely unlikely that this would work. The SD Tivo would have to scale the video down (or the HD Tivo would have to scale it before MRVing it), and since the boxes don't have encoders, I don't see that happening.

For what it's worth, I've manually inserted some HD stuff onto an SD Tivo. If it's 480p it seems to work fine, but 720p or 1080i vids don't -- audio but no video.
thanks for clearing that up...i bet this is the reason that tivo has not released a HD SA tivo... Not having encoders that can re-encode the video on the fly would prevent users from doing MRV and HMO between HD and SD tivo's...

MATT1981M
06-11-2006, 07:07 PM
Bought a working DVR40 off ebay and installed a new 250GB drive with software version 6.2 on it and tried to use the Access card from my DSR6000. It's a no go according to the two reps I talked to at DirecTV so I had to cough up $20 for a new Access card. The card will be here in 3 days. The question is should I pull the drive and Zipper it now, or wait until the new Access card arrives. Is there any problem activating a Zippered Tivo for the 1st time?
i agree with cheer.... As to the card... They should have let you use your old one.... I was told by a sup that the old card can be used as long as that card was currenty active on your acct (i.e. Swapping receivers)... If it was last active on your acct but currently inactive, they can try to activate it but it may not work (they have had problems with some of the cards not accepting programming..)... The card does have to be one of the new versions though... No old HU cards....

mikellanes
06-11-2006, 07:26 PM
You are correct -- you cannot send videos to a DirecTivo with Tivo Desktop. TivoToGo is required (which requires Tivo software 7.x).

Thanks didn't want to keep racking my brain over this! I got tivoserver running under os X and it seems to work ok. I wish there was a build for the G5 with dual processor support, it it very slow in converting only using 40-50% of one processor :(

cheer
06-11-2006, 07:40 PM
thanks for clearing that up...i bet this is the reason that tivo has not released a HD SA tivo... Not having encoders that can re-encode the video on the fly would prevent users from doing MRV and HMO between HD and SD tivo's...
No I don't think so...in fact the S3 should be along later this year. I think there are bigger issues with an HD SA...encoders, etc. It wouldn't be hard for Tivo to code a flag on HD recordings preventing them from MRVing to an SD Tivo.

ForrestB
06-11-2006, 08:34 PM
OK, I'll wait until the new Access card arrives and activate it before Zippering. I really tried to talk both reps into using the old card (Access Card 4) since it is an active card in a DirecTivo that I was replacing - but they wouldn't budge. Oh well - I only paid $36 for the DVR40 + remote.

JWThiers
06-12-2006, 08:16 AM
(I dumped about 10 PII's in the dumpster a couple months back...)
You do realize that the electronics have all kinds of heavy metals that should not go into landfills right.

Nandy
06-12-2006, 01:23 PM
OK, I'll wait until the new Access card arrives and activate it before Zippering. I really tried to talk both reps into using the old card (Access Card 4) since it is an active card in a DirecTivo that I was replacing - but they wouldn't budge. Oh well - I only paid $36 for the DVR40 + remote.
Since you are installing a new drive why not set it up? I mean, just dont take the old hard drive out of the unit. Hack the new hard drive. then after you activate your tivo with the old hd all you have to do is to swap the HD 2 hours later and presto!

MATT1981M
06-12-2006, 02:17 PM
Since you are installing a new drive why not set it up? I mean, just dont take the old hard drive out of the unit. Hack the new hard drive. then after you activate your tivo with the old hd all you have to do is to swap the HD 2 hours later and presto!
that is one way to look at things....if they got one of the "deals" like i have seen and have taken advantage of myself, is a dtivo without a hd... and then buying the remote separately.....either way i agree with cheer... it is a good idea to start with a activated and fully working unit and then hack from there... the main reason for doing it this way is the fact that it is easier to troubleshoot errors. when you have something go wrong, as usually happens to me with my bad luck and all, then it is nice to have a safe starting point... after all if the unit wont record prior to hacking, it probably wont record after hacking (aside from error 51 and such of course)....

ForrestB
06-12-2006, 08:33 PM
Since you are installing a new drive why not set it up? I mean, just dont take the old hard drive out of the unit. Hack the new hard drive. then after you activate your tivo with the old hd all you have to do is to swap the HD 2 hours later and presto!

The original hard drive had Tivo software version 3.1 on it - and I didn't want to wait days for it to upgrade over the satellite. Since I already had a backup image of my HDVR2 running 6.2, I just restored/expanded the image on the 250GB drive and installed it right away.

qwertypo
06-16-2006, 02:48 AM
ok from bash execute vserver &
report back what happens

vserver stopped running after a reboot, actually so did TWP. But I was able to start TWP at bash..... when I try to start vserver, I get an error -"listen failed"

What might this be?

BBQ Chicken
06-16-2006, 06:55 AM
I just set the proper DNS server value in my tivo with netconfig.tcl through tivowebplus, But when I reboot them, the DNS value is reverted back to 192.168.1.1. Any idea why this would happen? Is there another way to edit it that would be permanent? The slow now playing list is really a nuisance.

Gunnyman
06-16-2006, 07:09 AM
vserver stopped running after a reboot, actually so did TWP. But I was able to start TWP at bash..... when I try to start vserver, I get an error -"listen failed"

What might this be?
listen failed means vserver is running.

Tivogre
06-16-2006, 07:11 AM
I just set the proper DNS server value in my tivo with netconfig.tcl through tivowebplus, But when I reboot them, the DNS value is reverted back to 192.168.1.1. Any idea why this would happen? Is there another way to edit it that would be permanent? The slow now playing list is really a nuisance.

For the HR10-250 you have to set those values in the author file.

cheer
06-16-2006, 07:19 AM
For the HR10-250 you have to set those values in the author file.
Doubt he's got an HR10-250...the slow NowPlaying problem doesn't occur there (since the HR10-250 doesn't have MRV).

Did you get an error message when you ran netconfig? Try running it again, and post (A) the exact command you used and (B) the response you got from the Tivo.

rbautch
06-16-2006, 01:17 PM
I just set the proper DNS server value in my tivo with netconfig.tcl through tivowebplus, But when I reboot them, the DNS value is reverted back to 192.168.1.1. Any idea why this would happen? Is there another way to edit it that would be permanent? The slow now playing list is really a nuisance.The Zipper appends a one-time network setup command in your author file that triggers a tcl script to set IP parameters in MFS. The enhancement script uses sed to delete those lines, but it's possible you still have them there. Edit your author file to remove those lines. It's pretty obvious where they are.

More info: I did it this way so you are able to set up IP params while the drive is still in the PC. This allows the use of static IP address right off the bat, and also allows you to use a wireless adapter without first connecting a wired adapter. I'm planning to invoke the tcl script more elegantly, since more than one user has reported trouble with it.

samoyed
06-16-2006, 04:43 PM
OK- guys I am a newbee to all this lingo and hacks. this is what a friend gave me. and what should i do with it- sell it?
should i try hacking?
will it work just on cable tv(the dvr)?

2- direct tv receivers w/ cards and remotes and all wiring.
1-hughes direct tv tivo hdvr2-40 gig maxtor hdd.

what to do as i read up on all this.
i mean really 208 pages of data to read and try to understand?? :confused:
point me in the right direction- please.
thanks and from what little i have read this is a great site.

Gunnyman
06-16-2006, 04:45 PM
read the condensed version of this thread by clicking the link to the wiki in my sig.

cheer
06-16-2006, 04:46 PM
If you're not planning on getting DirecTV service, sell it all. The receivers obviously won't work for anything else -- though I doubt you'll get much for them.

The HDVR2 won't work with cable or anything but DirecTV (it doesn't have any encoders) but you could probably get a bit of money for that one.

BBQ Chicken
06-16-2006, 05:50 PM
The Zipper appends a one-time network setup command in your author file that triggers a tcl script to set IP parameters in MFS. The enhancement script uses sed to delete those lines, but it's possible you still have them there. Edit your author file to remove those lines. It's pretty obvious where they are.

More info: I did it this way so you are able to set up IP params while the drive is still in the PC. This allows the use of static IP address right off the bat, and also allows you to use a wireless adapter without first connecting a wired adapter. I'm planning to invoke the tcl script more elegantly, since more than one user has reported trouble with it.Thanks, that was the problem and I got it fixed now :up:

Jedis
06-16-2006, 10:20 PM
I have a Philips DSR708. I zippered my new Maxtor 300GB hard drive and followed the zipper instructions.

The only thing I wasn't sure about was the VMLINUX_.gz file. I found "vmlinux-3.1+.px.gz" in the s1_kernels/kernel-3.1+ on the free ptvlba48-4.04.iso from ptvupgrade. There was no s2_kernels folder. I renamed vmlinux-3.1+.px.gz to VMLINUX_.gz and burned the CD.

The zipper process went fine. No error messages, it imaged the 704-6.2 instantcake just fine.

Put it all back together, plugged it in and it sits at the "Welcome. Powering up...." screen. HD jumper was set to Cable Select to match the WD drive in there. Changed it to master, it still sits at Powering up.

What else can I try? I checked and reseatted the IDE and power cable to the MB. I didn't bump or move the cable that goes from the MB to the front of the unit.

ttodd1
06-16-2006, 10:50 PM
I have a Philips DSR708. I zippered my new Maxtor 300GB hard drive and followed the zipper instructions.

The only thing I wasn't sure about was the VMLINUX_.gz file. I found "vmlinux-3.1+.px.gz" in the s1_kernels/kernel-3.1+ on the free ptvlba48-4.04.iso from ptvupgrade. There was no s2_kernels folder. I renamed vmlinux-3.1+.px.gz to VMLINUX_.gz and burned the CD.

The zipper process went fine. No error messages, it imaged the 704-6.2 instantcake just fine.

Put it all back together, plugged it in and it sits at the "Welcome. Powering up...." screen. HD jumper was set to Cable Select to match the WD drive in there. Changed it to master, it still sits at Powering up.

What else can I try? I checked and reseatted the IDE and power cable to the MB. I didn't bump or move the cable that goes from the MB to the front of the unit.



http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3669547&&#post3669547

http://www.thewallens.net/Zipperwiki/index.php?title=Troubleshooting#My_TiVo_is_stuck_in_.22Welco me.2C_Powering_Up.22

bnm81002
06-16-2006, 10:53 PM
The only thing I wasn't sure about was the VMLINUX_.gz file. I found "vmlinux-3.1+.px.gz" in the s1_kernels/kernel-3.1+ on the free ptvlba48-4.04.iso from ptvupgrade. There was no s2_kernels folder. I renamed vmlinux-3.1+.px.gz to VMLINUX_.gz and burned the CD.





the s2_kernels are found in the $5 LBA48 Boot CD version and not the free one, you have to purchase the $5 version as instructed in the Zipper instructions

Jedis
06-17-2006, 01:55 AM
Thanks, I'm up and running now!

tkoopman
06-17-2006, 03:19 AM
WOW, I used InstantCake and zipper for my DSR704 and created my Boot Disk from PTVnet. It was so easy. I applied the hacks and photos are working, tivoweb. The one thing I can't figure out though is I ran the guided setup and applied my zip code 91913, and have tried letting the satelite determine my location and forced it to Pacfic, but the first 100 channels are for Chicago, not San Diego? How can I fix that? All other stations are working. Will it fix it self?

rpdre1
06-17-2006, 03:29 AM
WOW, I used InstantCake and zipper for my DSR704 and created my Boot Disk from PTVnet. It was so easy. I applied the hacks and photos are working, tivoweb. The one thing I can't figure out though is I ran the guided setup and applied my zip code 91913, and have tried letting the satelite determine my location and forced it to Pacfic, but the first 100 channels are for Chicago, not San Diego? How can I fix that? All other stations are working. Will it fix it self?

Call 1800DirecTV and enter in extension 721 and your locals should be fixed.

tkoopman
06-17-2006, 03:32 AM
Great thanks! I did see that number but it mentions if your first 100 channels are missing. They weren't missing just the wrong ones. Thanks for the fast reply.

That fixed it. Thanks for the help!

airjrdn
06-18-2006, 10:22 AM
I zippered my two DTivo's a couple months ago and all has been fine.

This morning, I couldn't connect via telnet to either one from two different PC's. However, the Tivos are on the network as they can see each other and TivoServer. Any thoughts?

Edit, reboot seems to have fixed the problem.

egizzi
06-18-2006, 12:27 PM
I've spent the last hour perusing the site and I have a few questions.

I have a directv samsung 4080. This is my first dvr ever, and I understand what the good fuss is about Tivo. I have a linux box in my basement that serves music to the house (via slimserver). The short term goal is to get recordings onto the linux box so I can copy them onto my laptop (a powerbook). The long term goal is to be able to access the tivo hard drive or the pc hard drive when away from home to download/view recordings.

Questions:

1) if I zipper the dvr, will I be able to use the dvr as I currently do? Will everything be the same....remote control, etc.

2) I'm assuming I need to connect the dvr to my network to run the zipper. So do I need to buy the usb-to-ethernet cable first? and then run the zipper from my powerbook and give it the proper ip address of the dvr?

3) Theoretically.....this one is theoretical....Is there a theoretical tool that will allow my powerbook to play the files I have transferred from my dvr to my linux server?

-E

airjrdn
06-18-2006, 12:43 PM
If you haven't already, you should do a quick read through of the steps at http://www.mastersav.com/tivo_zipper.html as that will answer some questions. I'll answer a few for you, and make some suggestions.

I've hacked 3 or 4, using the zipper for two of them. On each occasion, I've purchased a new drive, and backed the original up to it, using it from that point forward. That way, if anything catastrophic goes wrong, I can always put the original drive back in. My following paragraphs will all relate to whichever drive you plan on hacking (the newly purchased one if you go that route).

Before the DTivo can access the network, you'll need to install some things. You'll do this by taking the drive out of the Tivo and installing it in a PC. I'd recommend taking any existing harddrives out of the PC (or disconnecting the cables) so there's no chance of messing them up in the process.

You'll need to purchase a USB to Ethernet adapter. I have the Netgear FA120 (two of 'em) and they are the most highly recommended. Some of the other models (including all wireless I believe) require some additional drivers to be installed prior to them working. You can find refurb'd FA120's on Ebay for around $13 shipped. One of mine came from there.

Post zippering, all Tivo functions should work as they do now. In addition to that you'll have multi-room viewing, some DivX capabilities, weather info, and caller id functionality if you opt for it.

As for playing them on your powerbook, they should play fine if you convert them. I use TYTool to extract and convert them to standard MPG files. I would imagine your Mac will play those without issue.

egizzi
06-18-2006, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the rapid reply. Right after I posted, I was on the mastersav site and that helped a lot. I still have some questions:

I've hacked 3 or 4, using the zipper for two of them. On each occasion, I've purchased a new drive, and backed the original up to it, using it from that point forward. That way, if anything catastrophic goes wrong, I can always put the original drive back in. My following paragraphs will all relate to whichever drive you plan on hacking (the newly purchased one if you go that route).

I have an 80 gb hard drive in the basement. Couldn't I just use it for installing the zipper and not back up the original dvr drive? in other words, my original dvr drive would be the backup. Or does my new drive have to have a tivo image on it for it to be upgraded?


Before the DTivo can access the network, you'll need to install some things. You'll do this by taking the drive out of the Tivo and installing it in a PC. I'd recommend taking any existing harddrives out of the PC (or disconnecting the cables) so there's no chance of messing them up in the process.

I'm confused by this. Is this after I've zippered the new hard drive? Isn't the hard drive already out?

Thanks

ForrestB
06-18-2006, 01:41 PM
The Tivo Zipper can install a Tivo software image (such as the $20 Instacake PTV CD) on your new drive, or can install the Tivo software from a backup image created with MFSTools 2 from your old Tivo drive. Note your Tivo must be running 6.2 software in order to use the later method. Google Hinsdale for more info on how to create a backup image with MFSTools 2.

The Tivo Zipper is a 2 step process. You place the Tivo hard drive in a PC, boot if with the $5 LBA48 Boot CD and then a run a script from the Tivo Tools CD (which you create using instructions on the Tivo Zipper site). Secondly you install the drive in your Tivo and telnet into the Tivo to run another script.

choptv
06-18-2006, 03:42 PM
I've used the zipper once with no problems. I love it!!! Since I had just a great time doing one I thought I would do my other tivo. Here's my problem.

I have copied my original drive and put it on a shelf not to harm it. (want to try and see if I could keep my recordings) I boot with the PTV cd as instructed and get to the linux prompt and insert my tools cd and type the following.
mount /dev/hdc /cdrom and I get this message.

mount: you must specify the filesystem type

Does anyone know why I'm getting this message? I've searched the forum and found where some were have the same problem, but their fixes haven't work for me.

Any Suggestions?

Thanks

cheer
06-18-2006, 04:26 PM
I've used the zipper once with no problems. I love it!!! Since I had just a great time doing one I thought I would do my other tivo. Here's my problem.

I have copied my original drive and put it on a shelf not to harm it. (want to try and see if I could keep my recordings) I boot with the PTV cd as instructed and get to the linux prompt and insert my tools cd and type the following.
mount /dev/hdc /cdrom and I get this message.

mount: you must specify the filesystem type

Does anyone know why I'm getting this message? I've searched the forum and found where some were have the same problem, but their fixes haven't work for me.
Is your cdrom drive connected as secondary master ide to your pc? "/dev/hdc" refers to the master device on the secondary IDE controller. Yours might be hooked up in a different location. The "filesystem type" message sounds like it's trying to mount a hard drive, not the cdrom.

brj8826
06-18-2006, 04:38 PM
Well, I had such luck with upgrading my SD Tivos that I decided to try my HR10-250. Everything went smoothly until I plugged it back in and started running through the scripts. My wife hasn't monkeyed with this tivo for MONTHS, yet she all of a sudden decides to start adding freaking season passes at the EXACT time when I start backing up season passes on the setup script.

Now it has been sitting at "Backup will take about 2 minutes, during which you'll see no output..." for about 10 minutes now.

How long should I wait before I count this as a problem? If it locks up what do I do? Just run tweak.sh again from the beginning?

Ugh!

rpdre1
06-18-2006, 04:58 PM
press CTRL+C and run tweak_uninstall.sh (its in the same dir as tweak.sh)

then rerun tweak.sh and you should be good to go.

choptv
06-18-2006, 05:28 PM
Is your cdrom drive connected as secondary master ide to your pc? "/dev/hdc" refers to the master device on the secondary IDE controller. Yours might be hooked up in a different location. The "filesystem type" message sounds like it's trying to mount a hard drive, not the cdrom.




I didn't have the cdrom connected as the secondary master. THat is is fixed now I get this message.
block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read only

is this because the hard drive it locked?

Gunnyman
06-18-2006, 05:38 PM
no it means hdc has a read only media in it, like a cd.

cheer
06-18-2006, 06:11 PM
I didn't have the cdrom connected as the secondary master. THat is is fixed now I get this message.
block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read only

is this because the hard drive it locked?
No it's because a cd-rom drive is read-only. :)

rbautch
06-18-2006, 06:47 PM
Well, I had such luck with upgrading my SD Tivos that I decided to try my HR10-250. Everything went smoothly until I plugged it back in and started running through the scripts. My wife hasn't monkeyed with this tivo for MONTHS, yet she all of a sudden decides to start adding freaking season passes at the EXACT time when I start backing up season passes on the setup script.

Now it has been sitting at "Backup will take about 2 minutes, during which you'll see no output..." for about 10 minutes now.

How long should I wait before I count this as a problem? If it locks up what do I do? Just run tweak.sh again from the beginning?

Ugh!
Your Tivo is probably rebooting. The season pass backup is a memory hog that seems to cause problems with the HR10-250. I may try increasing the tivosh poolsize ever higher to see if I can get it to work. Has anyone been successful in backing up seasonpasses on an HR10-250?

dcahoe
06-19-2006, 02:27 PM
The Tivo Zipper can install a Tivo software image (such as the $20 Instacake PTV CD) on your new drive, or can install the Tivo software from a backup image created with MFSTools 2 from your old Tivo drive. Note your Tivo must be running 6.2 software in order to use the later method. Google Hinsdale for more info on how to create a backup image with MFSTools 2.

The Tivo Zipper is a 2 step process. You place the Tivo hard drive in a PC, boot if with the $5 LBA48 Boot CD and then a run a script from the Tivo Tools CD (which you create using instructions on the Tivo Zipper site). Secondly you install the drive in your Tivo and telnet into the Tivo to run another script.Anyone know where to get a good 6.2 image? Please PM or e-mail me. Thanks.

rpdre1
06-19-2006, 02:44 PM
Anyone know where to get a good 6.2 image? Please PM or e-mail me. Thanks.

check your pm