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rbautch
10-22-2005, 12:24 PM
Thanks to both Gunny and rbautch for the quick respones. I am this close (puts thumb and index finger closely together) to getting my three boxes hacked. Anyone know where I can find a new hackable unit to add to my collection?Weaknees.com sells refurbed driveless DSR7000's for $35. If you don't have an existing access card to use with it, buy one from them too.

summerall
10-22-2005, 01:13 PM
I'm zippering now...

I noticed that my locals aren't available yet. How long until they come back???

Also

My tivo is not displaying in my wrt54g config page - status / local network / dhcp clients table. I can however telnet right into the tivo using 192.168.1.101. Strange??? Anyone know why its not displaying in the dhcp table?


Thanks

Gunnyman
10-22-2005, 01:15 PM
my wrt54G sucks at displaying dhcp clients accurately
Locals can take up to 24 hrs to return or you can call 1-800 directv and use automated system saying you have a 711 messsage on your screen. That will re-authorize your locals automagically.

summerall
10-22-2005, 01:35 PM
Zippering DONE!!!

Can you give me instruct me how to remove the 51 error? Step by step please I'm noob.

Gunnyman
10-22-2005, 01:37 PM
last sentence on the page
but, just telnet to the tivo
type 51killer.tcl
hit enter
reboot tivo

SteelersFan
10-22-2005, 05:20 PM
Weaknees.com sells refurbed driveless DSR7000's for $35. If you don't have an existing access card to use with it, buy one from them too.
I was able to find a new unit (a Hughes DVR80) at Value Electronics. :up: As soon as it gets here I'll start "working on your Zipper" - haha. :D

JediKnight2
10-22-2005, 05:27 PM
Question on after zipper install.

I did the clear and delete thing and lost my logos....I also did not install the USB 2.0 drivers which I now see work with the Linksys wusb11.

Should I just run the uninstall script and resinstall running the tweak.sh file again and reinstall it? Thinking that I should be able to do this wirelessly without pulling the unit back upstairs and hard wiring it again? Thoughts, additions, deletions...

rbaucht..check your PM's

rbautch
10-22-2005, 05:59 PM
Yes, uninstall and then reinstall should do the trick.

eddyj
10-22-2005, 06:45 PM
Well, my two HDVR2s were upgraded with no problems at all. Thanks to rbautch and Gunny.

Getting my network configured with the bridges was nowhere near that easy, but thanks to Gunny, all is up and running nicely now.

summerall
10-22-2005, 06:58 PM
What file do i update to password protect tivo web?

Also what are the commands to edit & save the file?

summerall
10-22-2005, 07:14 PM
Tivoweb >> main menu >> net config

Should I have the DHCP checkbox selected if I have my Tivo is getting its IP address from DHCP via my router?

NYCguy
10-22-2005, 07:18 PM
First of all i want to say Thank to everyone who made this possible.

The Zipper Couldn't be more easier :)

I finnaly decided to do something to my tivo after applying Sleeper back in '04.

I started from scratch and followed every step listed.
Bought PTVupgrade's Instantcake CD and LBA48 Boot CD connected drive to PC and everything went perfect.

I then remember i didnt have my tivo networked at all so i was stock on doing the next step. After search my apartment form left to right i was able to find the TiVo Null Modem Serial Cable i bought back in '04 when i first started this hobby.

I was able to use Hyperterminal and complete the script. Connected the Tivo to the TV and everything seems to be in order.

I did notice a error when i tried to record a show. It said there was a hardware problem that i needed to correct before trying to record. I intructed me to restar the system to correct it but that didnt take.

I did a delete all and it was at that screen after i left to work so hopefully that would solve it. (i think that did it last time i saw that error)

Anyway now im looking forward to Networking my Tivo, i just need advice on the hardware to buy (It has to be wireless cause i have too many cables already)

Can anyone point me to the right direction on this?

BTW: I did this on the Hughe HDVR2.

JediKnight2
10-22-2005, 07:27 PM
Linksys WUSB11 versions 2.6 or 2.8...EBAY...its all you need

summerall
10-22-2005, 07:43 PM
NYCguy

to get rid of the 51 hardware error you have to run

51killer.tcl

then reboot tivo. i had the same problem and this fixed the problem.

Look at post 256 from gunny man

rbautch
10-22-2005, 08:09 PM
Linksys WUSB11 versions 2.6 or 2.8...EBAY...its all you needver 3.0 works too. Check Tivos website for a full list of compatible adapters. Has to be 802.11b.

TomK
10-22-2005, 08:28 PM
Tivoweb >> main menu >> net config

Should I have the DHCP checkbox selected if I have my Tivo is getting its IP address from DHCP via my router?


I may be wrong but I think you shouldn't mess with this 'net config' in TivoWebPlus unless you want to give the TiVo a static address. If it works fine now via DHCP don't mess with it.

NYCguy
10-22-2005, 08:33 PM
Linksys WUSB11 versions 2.6 or 2.8...EBAY...its all you need

Thanks.. What about the router? can i go with any Wireless Router ?

NYCguy

to get rid of the 51 hardware error you have to run

51killer.tcl

then reboot tivo. i had the same problem and this fixed the problem.

Look at post 256 from gunny man

Thanks guys for making it so easy :)

JediKnight2
10-22-2005, 08:50 PM
I havent experienced any wireless router problems and I have used both Linksys wireless and Netgear wireless routers...The only time you have to worry about compatibility is usually when you buy an AP or bridge...some manufacturers make those only compatible with their router hardware...

Gunnyman
10-22-2005, 10:23 PM
Well, my two HDVR2s were upgraded with no problems at all. Thanks to rbautch and Gunny.

Getting my network configured with the bridges was nowhere near that easy, but thanks to Gunny, all is up and running nicely now.
YAY
I guess I don't have to drive to Miami tomorrow eh?

bnm81002
10-22-2005, 10:36 PM
Anyone interested in testing a new Zipper feature, please PM me. You must have an image on your tools disk.



ok Russ,
it 2 days ALREADY, any update on this :p

eddyj
10-22-2005, 11:09 PM
YAY
I guess I don't have to drive to Miami tomorrow eh?
Only if you want to experience Wilma first hand. :D

tcflint
10-23-2005, 11:10 AM
Ok, so for a newbie....Once I sucessfully hacked my Dtivo with Zipper is there a place I can read about all the features and how to use them to get the most out of all the enhancments? :rolleyes:

rbautch
10-23-2005, 11:28 AM
Start with the Enhancements thread here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680) . After that, just keep searching and reading.

NYCguy
10-23-2005, 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by summerall
NYCguy

to get rid of the 51 hardware error you have to run

51killer.tcl

then reboot tivo. i had the same problem and this fixed the problem.

Look at post 256 from gunny man


That did it. Next Step is networking :up:

bguild
10-23-2005, 11:08 PM
Guys, Zipper is terrific! Thanks for the fantastic mods. I am enjoying Tivoweb for the first time and I love it.

One question: I ran 51killer because I was switching my old hard drive to a new unit and I was receiving Error 51. Yet, after running 51killer, I still cannot view my old programming. I guess I was under the mistaken impression that I would be able to view my old programming.

I guess this part of the Enhancement Script pretty much answers my question:

WARNING: Because the key generated for this nag is also used as part of the
encryption process for tystreams, any encrypted (scrambled) streams that you
currently have on the disk will be rendered useless!

Is there any way to recover the old programming? If not, what is the best way to erase it all? Is there anything quicker than just using the Tivo Erase function?

Thanks,

Brian

bnm81002
10-23-2005, 11:20 PM
Is there any way to recover the old programming?





I was wondering about this as well, should I do a backup and restore using either hinsdale or weaknees guides according to "Note 1" then install "Zipper" then install "Enhancement Scripts" then I'll have my old recordings on the new drive with Zipper and E. Scripts? thanks

woods26
10-24-2005, 04:26 AM
Thanks for the zipper it rox. I havent had a chance to try it yet but I love tools that make things a bit more simple. Lets us concentrate on other important stuff. So thanks and greatly appreciated.

So part of the process for doing this is by purchasing the LBA48 boot cd from PTVUpgrade. I did that, confirmation here

The following products are available for immediate electronic delivery:

Order#: 21120
Date: 10/23/2005

LBA48-401DD
PTVupgrade LBA48 4.01 with Enhancements
downloads ptvupgrade com download.php?sc=PTV&id=

I removed the id param for safety as it still seems to link to the cd image. Anyhow when I browse the image I dont see the kernel in the correct format you all suggest. I see x:\s2_kernels\3.1.5\vmlinux.px.gz I can gunzip the file then I am left with vmlinux.px. Do I just re-gzip it with the name you guys have stated?

Thanks.

PS. Had to breakup URL per board ristriction

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 04:34 AM
woods are you on linux?
The reason the file is listed teh way it is in teh guide is that Windows XP truncates the file name.
the file you want is indeed vmlinux.px.gz
just rename it to match the guide and you will be fine. The script takes care of gunzipping for you.
And don't ask me what I'm doing up at this hr, dang flu put me to bed at 7:30 PM and has me up at 4:30 AM :(

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 04:42 AM
If the ZIPPER get's mentioned on DDB one more time, MY support for it here (or anywhere else for that matter) ENDS! Are we all CLEAR?

TomK
10-24-2005, 07:01 AM
Give us names and we'll take care of the offenders. :)

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 07:32 AM
I ook care of it. :D

mercurial
10-24-2005, 10:15 AM
The HR10-250 has 3.x software, which is older than the 6.x or 7.x versions that the script has been tested on to date. Files are in different places, network settings are stored differently, etc..., all of which I have begun to adjust the script for. I'm testing things out now with the help of MisterEd, and I should have a beta version ready soon. Anyone with an HR10-250 is welcome to help me test.

Note that we are talking about the Enhancement script, not the Zipper.

I was thinking more like what things can you do? I know MRV/HMO is out but will you be able to:

1) Use a USB Netadapter in lew of a phone line?
2) Enable 30s skip permanently?
3) Use get caller ID?
4) Have TiVo web?

I think those are the things that I'm most interested in, in order. I appologize if it's a silly question. I've not been keeping up with hacks and what is/is not possible on each point release of the software.

mercurial
10-24-2005, 10:20 AM
Thanks guys! I now have my two S2 DTiVos hacked and networked and expanded to 144 hours each. Yay! I also have a drive imaged and zippered to go in the S2 I'm going to get to replace my last S1 DTiVo (a SAT-T60).

Also (unrelated to the Zipper), I have my failing HR10-250 drive replaced with dual 250GB drives but I can't get it up and running until I get a new power splitter from Weaknees. The one they sent had a bad pin that came out when I tried to connect it. (The sad part is, I threw away a draw full of the darn things when I moved in January since I hadn't needed one in years.)

When we built this house, we had it pre-wired with lots of CAT5 so I have between 2-6 CAT5 outlets for network or phone use depending on how I jack them in, at each TiVo location. I've got the TiVos segregated onto their own 100MBS switch so the inter-TiVo traffic doesn't interfere with or get interfered with by our network traffic.

Anyway, long story short, expect a beer or two coming your way sometime this week. Thanks again guys!

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 10:24 AM
Your Welcome Merc. :D

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 10:26 AM
I was thinking more like what things can you do? I know MRV/HMO is out but will you be able to:

1) Use a USB Netadapter in lew of a phone line?
2) Enable 30s skip permanently?
3) Use get caller ID?
4) Have TiVo web?

I think those are the things that I'm most interested in, in order. I appologize if it's a silly question. I've not been keeping up with hacks and what is/is not possible on each point release of the software.

Merc,
1) does a HDTivo get OTA guide data from Tivo call?
2) Yes
3) yes
4) yes

mercurial
10-24-2005, 10:30 AM
Merc,
1) does a HDTivo get OTA guide data from Tivo call?
2) Yes
3) yes
4) yes

I'm about 99.9999999% sure ALL the guide data for the HR10-250 comes over the sat just like the SD versions.

mercurial
10-24-2005, 10:32 AM
BTW, if I can get the TiVos to not need a phone line, then all I need to do is talk to my alarm company about what other monitoring options they have, and I'll be able to ditch my land line for Vonage or a similar offering and save about $25-35/month. So that's a big driver in this project.

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 10:32 AM
then no need for a phoneline at all

TomK
10-24-2005, 11:09 AM
My VOIP service is on order :)

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 11:49 AM
If you want to save your programs that are currently on your system...I successfully did this on Saturday by following the Hinsdale Guide by upgrading to a larger single drive from my Original Tivo drive. After I completed the Hinsdale guide I zippered the drive and it worked flawlessly....

Gunny...DONT LEAVE US...you are always gonna have some IDIOTS...I know its aggrivating...

GET A ROPE BOYS!!!

rbautch
10-24-2005, 12:27 PM
Guys, Zipper is terrific! Thanks for the fantastic mods. I am enjoying Tivoweb for the first time and I love it.

One question: I ran 51killer because I was switching my old hard drive to a new unit and I was receiving Error 51. Yet, after running 51killer, I still cannot view my old programming. I guess I was under the mistaken impression that I would be able to view my old programming.

I guess this part of the Enhancement Script pretty much answers my question:

WARNING: Because the key generated for this nag is also used as part of the
encryption process for tystreams, any encrypted (scrambled) streams that you
currently have on the disk will be rendered useless!

Is there any way to recover the old programming? If not, what is the best way to erase it all? Is there anything quicker than just using the Tivo Erase function?

Thanks,

BrianIf you move your hard drive to a new unit, there is no way to recover your old shows. This is not a function of the script, or hacking. You would have the same problem if you moved an unhacked drive to another Tivo. Also there's no way to batch delete them. It may be easier just to start with a fresh 6.2 image than to spend a hour deleting them one by one.

rbautch
10-24-2005, 12:29 PM
If the ZIPPER get's mentioned on DDB one more time, MY support for it here (or anywhere else for that matter) ENDS! Are we all CLEAR?Perhaps the original post or the Zipper website can have a "wall of shame" that names names.

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 12:32 PM
DO IT...that sounds like a good idea!

rbautch
10-24-2005, 12:35 PM
If you want to save your programs that are currently on your system...I successfully did this on Saturday by following the Hinsdale Guide by upgrading to a larger single drive from my Original Tivo drive. After I completed the Hinsdale guide I zippered the drive and it worked flawlessly.......but did you install the drive back into the same Tivo or into a new unit? The problem arises when you put the drive into a new unit that has a different crypto key stored on the motherboard than the one used to encode the shows originally. The bottom line is the only scenario that you'll lose existing shows is if you move the drive to a new Tivo.

mercurial
10-24-2005, 12:43 PM
BTW, you *MIGHT* want to make the WinXP SP2 telnet issue more clear directly in your FAQ. I saw that and figured it was an access issue since SP2 turned on more firewall stuff that I turned back off. Ok.. I'd try the telnet and see if it worked. It wasn't until the tweak script screwed up that I realized the "unset crlf" was the issue. Ok, no big deal, I'll just re-run it... Wrong. It sees it's already hacked and refuses to run again since I have to uninstall first. Ok.. Do that and it refuses to run the install because the /enhancements directory is empty... Grumble... Tried to re-zipper it but no go. No biggy, just re-imaged from the original drive, re-zippered and moved on. Again, I'm an idiot but maybe that would be a good one to pull into the FAQ/guide.

Also, in a case of being too smart (?) for my own good, when I burnt the Zipper CD, I did it in ISO-9660 format since I seemed to remember (mis-remember) that being more compatible with Linux. But ISO-9660 mangles the file names so I had to re-burn a disk in Joliet. You *might*want to mention that in the section about making the tools disk, but it's no big deal. Most people probably get it right by default, it's just people that have to screw around with things that mess it up.

One last, I may have missed this in the guide, since I was using a LBA48 boot disk and doing mfsbackup/mfsrestore to image the drives and keep my old recordings, I didn't realize you had to reboot between that finishing and running the Zipper. Your guide mentions a reboot if you're having Zipper install a plain 6.2 image but, unless I missed it, it doesn't mention to do it if you're doing a manual MFS image. If it isn't there, you might want to stick it into the guide.

Ok.. Just a few comments to, hopefully (?), make the guide a bit better. Another obligatory thanks to Gunny and rbautch.

dsmturbo
10-24-2005, 01:01 PM
I was thinking more like what things can you do? I know MRV/HMO is out but will you be able to:

1) Use a USB Netadapter in lew of a phone line?
2) Enable 30s skip permanently?
3) Use get caller ID?
4) Have TiVo web?

I think those are the things that I'm most interested in, in order. I appologize if it's a silly question. I've not been keeping up with hacks and what is/is not possible on each point release of the software.

I also would like these hacks on a HR10-250. Mine keeps nagging to call in, and I hate phone lines :D

mercurial, have you done any hacks to your HD Tivo as yet?

mercurial
10-24-2005, 01:05 PM
I also would like these hacks on a HR10-250. Mine keeps nagging to call in, and I hate phone lines :D

mercurial, have you done any hacks to your HD Tivo as yet?

I'm upgrading it to dual 250s but other than that, no. I'm waiting for Gunny and rbautch to make it easy for my lazy butt.

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 01:10 PM
You are right rbaucht...it was and HAS to be from the same DTivo...I basically did a Drive upgrade and copied over the 40GB to the 120GB...that is the only way it will work....

mercurial and rbaucht...I see the same problem and there is a work around. First, run the uninstall script then you HAVE to copy over the rbautch-files.tgz file BACK into the hacks folder...then run tweak.sh again and you are golden.

rbaucht I think you should copy the rbautch-files.tgz file into enhancements instead of mv. OR move the file back in the uninstall script so that when you run tweak.sh file again the file is where it is supposed to be. Otherwise you run into the problem stated above where the file isnt in /hacks where tweak.sh is looking.

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 01:14 PM
DO IT...that sounds like a good idea!
I concur.
That's a GREAT idea

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 01:21 PM
also make this:

Note 2: If you have problems during the installation, post your questions on the TCF support thread here.
DO NOT mention, link to, or discuss The Zipper at ************.com. They will NOT help you, and will likely vilify you for using an installation script like this.

ALL BOLD AND ALL RED!!! AND BLINKING...with LITTLE FINGERS POINTING TO IT ALL AROUND IT....WITH A NEON SIGN GIF BLINKING...READ HERE....READ HERE...IMPORTANT!!! :rolleyes: :cool:

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 01:26 PM
maybe peeps don't know what vilify means :p

rbautch
10-24-2005, 01:27 PM
BTW, if I can get the TiVos to not need a phone line, then all I need to do is talk to my alarm company about what other monitoring options they have, and I'll be able to ditch my land line for Vonage or a similar offering and save about $25-35/month. So that's a big driver in this project.Most alarm companies have a "cell phone-like" interface they can install to replace a land line. If they don't, it's easy (and likely free) to switch to one who does.

mercurial
10-24-2005, 01:28 PM
I don't get the whole vilfy thing.. I mean, you're giving credit and not even including their tools - making people go get them. What's the big deal if I use a script instead of doing it all by hand? That's the Unix way for crips sakes. Using scripts and lots of little tools to build up bigger/automated systems. It makes more sense than doing it by hand on what will be our three TiVos and ending up with inconsistancies or user errors.. Whatever...

mercurial
10-24-2005, 01:30 PM
Most alarm companies have a "cell phone-like" interface they can install to replace a land line. If they don't, it's easy (and likely free) to switch to one who does.

Our old company (5 years ago so it may have changed) offered that as a backup incase someone cut our phone line. At the time, the monthly fee was almost 2/3 of what we'd save. I know when the phone company was dragging, ADT said they could work with VoIP and they'd install a UPS and some other things on site to make it more reliable but it seems like what they should do is just have it send reports via the Internet and have a UPS for your router/switch/CTM... Eh... I'll burn that bridge when I come to it... ;)

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 01:35 PM
I don't get the whole vilfy thing.. I mean, you're giving credit and not even including their tools - making people go get them. What's the big deal if I use a script instead of doing it all by hand? That's the Unix way for crips sakes. Using scripts and lots of little tools to build up bigger/automated systems. It makes more sense than doing it by hand on what will be our three TiVos and ending up with inconsistancies or user errors.. Whatever...
Merc
It comes from the fact that the inventors of this crap had to sweat and work and fail ( a lot) to get these hacks to work.
Scripts are too easy and don't teach people who use them anything about what they did.
Many many people think if you don't learn how a hack works you shouldn't use it.
Frankly it's a dang set top box and once it's set up you shouldn't have to screw with it. At least that's how I feel about it.

mercurial
10-24-2005, 01:43 PM
Merc
It comes from the fact that the inventors of this crap had to sweat and work and fail ( a lot) to get these hacks to work.
Scripts are too easy and don't teach people who use them anything about what they did.
Many many people think if you don't learn how a hack works you shouldn't use it.
Frankly it's a dang set top box and once it's set up you shouldn't have to screw with it. At least that's how I feel about it.

Yeah, I bet it was a b!tch working out awk, sed, grep and so on for the first time but at some point, you have to stop tooting your own horn and accept they're just tools. Oh well.

rbautch
10-24-2005, 01:47 PM
Ok.. Just a few comments to, hopefully (?), make the guide a bit better. Good observations, and definitely fixable. I have a few ideas. First, the rbautch-files archive is huge (relatively), so if I copy it instead of move it, it will take up way too much space. The uninstall script moves the rbautch-files archive to the root directory before deleting the /enhancements. This was done pre-Zipper for most people like me who ran tweak.sh from root. This made it possible to install/un-install tweak.sh over and over without moving any files. The simplist way to fix this is to have the Zipper put tweak.sh in root rather than /hacks/, and have people run it from there. I'll do some searching to see if there is a more elegant way to handle this, like having the uninstall script move the files archive to the directory where tweak.sh was run from...or from where it was run, whatever.

ps I hope I can count on some volunteers to test this!

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 01:50 PM
I have my units up and running...If I can pull out an old 40GB harddrive from somewhere...Ill test it for you...

rbautch
10-24-2005, 02:52 PM
This was easier than I thought. The attached uninstall script will find the directory you ran it from (in this case /hacks/), and will move the rbautch-files.tgz archive there when the uninstall script is run. This way you should be able to cleanly install/uninstall/reinstall multiple times. If you want to test it, just replace the uninstall script in /hacks/ with this one, and run it. Then try running tweak.sh again.

willardcpa
10-24-2005, 02:59 PM
So should I use this one and replace the one that I just yesterday used to replace the 2.3 one??? :D

willardcpa
10-24-2005, 03:01 PM
Frankly it's a dang set top box and once it's set up you shouldn't have to screw with it. At least that's how I feel about it.If that's the way you feel about it then how did you come up with the "unguide" if you didn't "screw with it"? :p :D

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 03:02 PM
note I said once it's set up
it ain't se up til it's hacked :D

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 03:42 PM
I ran into that the first time I ran the script....I should have posted it earlier :o ...I new what the problem was and just ftp'd it to /hacks where it was being looked for...Having my own linux server helps me get into just enough trouble to keep me up at night...LOL :cool:

tosetek
10-24-2005, 03:51 PM
Ok, so let's say you're pretty much a novice with no hacking experience but you know how to reformat a hard drive and swap them around. These instructions seem pretty straight forward (I like the links provided, thanks). How long will this take for the avg. noob and what would you say the overall success rate for people who didn't wander off from the directions?

Thanks a lot.
Troy

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 03:53 PM
I would say that if you STICK TO THE INSTRUCTIONS...no deviations and you understand what and where Primary and Secondary IDE's are and how to ensure each is set to Master or Slave where appropriate..I would say your chances are 100%

You ALSO need to understand what parameters to insert for networking...

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 03:55 PM
if you follow the directions and strayeth ye not away from them, once you have the tools disk made, the whole process from removeing the screws from the tivo to enjoying the fruits of your labor should be just over an hour.

mercurial
10-24-2005, 03:57 PM
Ok, so let's say you're pretty much a novice with no hacking experience but you know how to reformat a hard drive and swap them around. These instructions seem pretty straight forward (I like the links provided, thanks). How long will this take for the avg. noob and what would you say the overall success rate for people who didn't wander off from the directions?

Thanks a lot.
Troy

Average time will depend on if you're moving to a new, bigger drive and if you're saving recordings. Also if you have a machine you can quickly pull apart to put the drive(s) in... These things took longer than the Zipper/tweak process for me.

tosetek
10-24-2005, 04:03 PM
Thanks for the fast responses. Yep, I'm only counting hack time and not actual hardware removal time. I don't have the time nor knowledge to read through some of the many posts required for previous hacks, that's why this one is so appealing. Plus, the fast response to people in need of help.

I understand how to change from master to slave and primary IDE so that's good. The parameters for network concerns me but I'm sure i just need to read up more. Do you mean the IP address?

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 04:06 PM
just make sure your router is running DHCP and you have a Tivo approved wired USB ethernet adapter like the easily found Netgear FA120 and you will be fine.

tosetek
10-24-2005, 04:08 PM
cool. I at least did that much research for previous hacks and that is the adapter which I currently have.

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 04:16 PM
Just post up if you have problems and we will try to help...

I can verify though that the USB2.0 drivers for the wusb11 ARE faster...MUCH faster in my case!! I could tell a difference just by telneting into the machine!

summerall
10-24-2005, 04:50 PM
Now that I've zippered one Tivo I want to do another.

If I purchase a DSR7000 from weaknees it won't come with an access card, so can I use an access card from my directors pack receiver with it?

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 04:52 PM
is it a P4 card?
you MIGHT be able to. It depends on the mood of the CSR that day.

summerall
10-24-2005, 05:04 PM
I'm not sure what kind of card it is. I'll have to check when I get home.

I have two I could use - one is in an old series 1 tivo already active and another in a directors pack receiver not actived. Could I just move the card from the series 1 tivo into the new DSR7000 without calling DTV?

mercurial
10-24-2005, 05:05 PM
I'm not sure what kind of card it is. I'll have to check when I get home.

I have two I could use - one is in an old series 1 tivo already active and another in a directors pack receiver not actived. Could I just move the card from the series 1 tivo into the new DSR7000 without calling DTV?

No, IIRC, they match the card number to the recivers IRD (?) number. You have to give both to activate. I think sometimes they even "claim" the cards are paired to the reciever permanently but I think that was debunked as CSR BS. But, you'll pretty much have to call.

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 05:06 PM
you can activate that one using the call 1800directv and enter 722 trick

rbautch
10-24-2005, 05:59 PM
No, IIRC, they match the card number to the recivers IRD (?) number. You have to give both to activate. I think sometimes they even "claim" the cards are paired to the reciever permanently but I think that was debunked as CSR BS. But, you'll pretty much have to call.Since the DSR7000 is a non-RID tivo, the #722 trick should work. I pulled an old P4 card out of a standard DirecTV receiver, and it worked find with a Weakness DSR7000. Another option is to buy a card from Weaknees for $25.

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 06:20 PM
I BET you unzipped it with winzip or windows zip utility...those = NO WORKY!! (in the great words of the master) Use WinRAR and I bet it works...I used it last week...

summerall
10-24-2005, 07:14 PM
Am I right that zipper does not install tytools tserver?

bnm81002
10-24-2005, 07:17 PM
If you want to save your programs that are currently on your system...I successfully did this on Saturday by following the Hinsdale Guide by upgrading to a larger single drive from my Original Tivo drive. After I completed the Hinsdale guide I zippered the drive and it worked flawlessly....




so I can use the Weaknees guide(I like this guide better) to backup and restore a larger drive then install Zipper and Enhancement Scripts and my old recordings will be saved? thanks

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 07:28 PM
bnm81002, Yes, you can follow that guide to upgrading to a new larger hard drive preserving recordings..MAKE SURE you read thru it all once and twice before doing it...You do NOT necessarily have to test the backup after you do the actual backup. You can skip that part as when you follow the option to upgrade to a larger drive preserving season passes, recordings it will overwrite that image if you installed it to test. Took about 3.5 hours to do mine, but it was pretty full too.

summerall, it does NOT install that program.

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 07:28 PM
Am I right that zipper does not install tytools tserver?
tserver is included in tivotools.tar

summerall
10-24-2005, 07:30 PM
Looks like I need to do a lot more reading to get tserver working. :-(

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 07:32 PM
sadly tserver is one of the subjects we can't talk too much about here.

summerall
10-24-2005, 08:05 PM
Can you simply tell me what directory the zipper install places the files?

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 08:06 PM
look in /busybox
to start tserver simply type tserver from bash.

bnm81002
10-24-2005, 08:11 PM
bnm81002, Yes, you can follow that guide to upgrading to a new larger hard drive preserving recordings..MAKE SURE you read thru it all once and twice before doing it...You do NOT necessarily have to test the backup after you do the actual backup. You can skip that part as when you follow the option to upgrade to a larger drive preserving season passes, recordings it will overwrite that image if you installed it to test. Took about 3.5 hours to do mine, but it was pretty full too.



after doing this then I can install Zipper and the Enhancements scripts, right? thanks

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 08:15 PM
yes

summerall
10-24-2005, 08:18 PM
hmmm....

At bash I type "tserver" press enter

bash: tserver: command not found

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 08:20 PM
hmm
maybe it's NOt in tivotools.ar anymore let me check
back in a few

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 08:23 PM
oops its not
go search the other place ( you know the one where you got tivoools.tar from) and search for jamie's unified mfs tools.
download that package, ftp the tserver and vserver files to /busybox

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 08:28 PM
:)...

summerall
10-24-2005, 08:57 PM
Found it at the other place:

mfs-utils_src-20050604.tar.bz2 (90.4 KB, 458 views)
mfs-utils_noarch-20050604.tar.bz2 (31.1 KB, 350 views)
mfs-utils_bin.ppc-20050604.tar.bz2 (217.9 KB, 362 views)
mfs-utils_bin.mips-20050604.tar.bz2 (216.8 KB, 1684 views)
mfs-utils_bin.Linux-i686-20050604.tar.bz2 (1.72 MB, 278 views)

Which one do I need?

What is a .bz2 file?

What program do you recommend for ftping things over to the tivo?

Thanks

mikehome
10-24-2005, 09:20 PM
you can activate that one using the call 1800directv and enter 722 trick


722 trick? I would like to use a card from my subbed d-10 IRD and use it in my Samsung Tivo. Is that possible without having to call and sign up for another 2 yrs for "advanced equip"...even though I bought the tivo from ebay....which is BS btw.... I subbed my other Samsung for 1 yr and then they changed their subsciption model. Why should I have to sub another 2 yrs for equip that I never bought from them or one of their puppet retailers?

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 09:34 PM
Found it at the other place:

mfs-utils_src-20050604.tar.bz2 (90.4 KB, 458 views)
mfs-utils_noarch-20050604.tar.bz2 (31.1 KB, 350 views)
mfs-utils_bin.ppc-20050604.tar.bz2 (217.9 KB, 362 views)
mfs-utils_bin.mips-20050604.tar.bz2 (216.8 KB, 1684 views)
mfs-utils_bin.Linux-i686-20050604.tar.bz2 (1.72 MB, 278 views)

Which one do I need?

What is a .bz2 file?

What program do you recommend for ftping things over to the tivo?

Thanks

bin.mips one
I used winrar to uncompress the bz2 file and filezilla to ftp

gfr7
10-24-2005, 09:37 PM
i tried the alphwlf image earlier with zipper ran it didnt find a valid image ran thru its setup untill it failed
, now i cant reload my 401 image . (tried to reload 4 times now)
screen goes thru some funky flashes like the old sleeper mod then reboots runs thru same flickers again then nothing.
any advice?
or maybe a valid image to use with zipper?
i would buy another instacake but im broke.

im learning now if you have this probb fee free to msg me

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 09:49 PM
use mfsrestore from the 5 dollar boot cd and put alphawolf's 6.2 on there manually reboot to the boot disc then run thru zipepr and say no to install image

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 09:54 PM
np but you're on your own till Rbautch takes the night shift I'm carrying my flu ridden butt to bed :(

rbautch
10-24-2005, 10:07 PM
i tried the alphwlf image earlier with zipper ran it didnt find a valid image ran thru its setup untill it failed.This means the image was not named correctly when you put it on the tools disk. It has to be named 000001 (5 zeros).

bnm81002
10-24-2005, 10:09 PM
np but you're on your own till Rbautch takes the night shift I'm carrying my flu ridden butt to bed :(



well take care of yourself Gunny and hope that you feel the same way that you look in that pic as soon as possible :)

summerall
10-24-2005, 10:25 PM
If I put the tserver file in the /busybox folder then what do I need to set my execute string to in tytool?

/busybox/tserver_mfs - s / ??????

Also jamies unified mfs tools (mfs-utils_bin.mips-20050604.tar.bz2) the vserver file is larger than the vserver file on my tivo after zipper. should I update it with jamies file?

JediKnight2
10-24-2005, 10:52 PM
DUDE...this isnt the thread to be talking about this...its kind of hijacking it...AND we cant talk about it anyway...read the rules...and use the search at TOS and the answers to your questions are all over...a Google for a tutorial on said named program might help as well... :up:

summerall
10-24-2005, 11:00 PM
Success!!! I finally got it.

Sorry....no more words spoken about it.

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 11:44 PM
its my fault for not keeping the thread on topic.
from here on out, lets keep discussion focused on the zipper.

gfr7
10-24-2005, 11:45 PM
Gunny I feel like such a moron your tip worked and i also found out what my main probb was
I had totaly wiped my drive ( ie -s 127 -xzpi ) there by erasing my orignal files.

I have spent the last week reading post (till i got dizzy and fell asleep)

I had read the post about it being slices and it just totaly slipped my mind
(damn guess i do have ADD after all )

HEY WHATS THAT SOUND it me hitting myself in the head with my shoe lol

you guys rock
and thnx again gunny

i have one more question info screen says rec capacity variable upto 0 hours did i frag something else up? fixed this on my own
LOOK MA IM LEARNING IM LEARNING

Gunnyman
10-24-2005, 11:49 PM
:D
I know that sound.
Before January of this year I knew nada about hacking. :D

Dirac
10-25-2005, 12:03 AM
I remember when you first came to TCF... asking a few intelligent questions and then off you go. :D I appreciate what you're doing for those who can't spend as much time with these things as we'd like.

Speaking of help with TiVo, I have an "enhanced" TiVo that was sliced from 4.0.1b to 6.2. It was set up with wireless params in 4.0.1b. Now I'm moving it to a wired network and having trouble getting it to connect. I reconfigured with netconfig but I think it's still "attached" to the wireless adapter. I have shell access via serial. Any hints?

EDIT: After reboot I still see "Wireless Parameters" after running ipflags. How do I get rid of these?

slydog75
10-25-2005, 12:30 AM
Mike
as long as you have your channels and access to your Now Playing list, you can Zipper.


How does this apply if you are using the image from InstantCake on a blank drive?

Dirac
10-25-2005, 12:53 AM
Update on the network settings--I re-enabled dhclient in /sbin and it went out and got a DHCP IP address on reboot (to my surprise, I determined after running ifconfig). I can connect through ethernet now, but the MFS settings from ipflags are still showing my old wireless parameters. If I disable dhclient, eth0 no longer appears in my adapter list, so it is apparently not being set properly in MFS. I am trying to set a static IP.

Might be time to start a new thread... unless someone jumps in and hits me over the head. :)

slydog75
10-25-2005, 12:57 AM
One other question.. what all do we get from HMO using Zipper? Photos and Music? Online Scheduling? TivoToGo? I see MultiRoomViewing mentioned so I'm assuming that works...

Dirac
10-25-2005, 01:05 AM
MRV and Photos/Music. You don't get the Best Buy music unless you leave ports to tivo.com open, which is not a good idea. Remote scheduling does not work, but you can set up TivoWebPlus (optional install item in the Zipper) and connect to it remotely--almost as good.

TiVoToGo also does not apply to the combo units. That's what the tserver/vserver discussion was, but we won't go down that road here. Google is your friend. :D

I should mention that the Zipper automatically blocks your TiVo from getting to tivo.com, so not to worry there.

slydog75
10-25-2005, 01:08 AM
Ok I was just curious.. I was sleepered before and am familiar with all the hacks that existed about a year ago but my HD died so I'm starting from scratch.

gfr7
10-25-2005, 04:04 AM
I have put the zips where they need to be dl the un file re ran and i got this message Skipping fakecall update
i have disconed my tivo from the web till i figure out if this is a prob.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 07:25 AM
I remember when you first came to TCF... asking a few intelligent questions and then off you go. :D I appreciate what you're doing for those who can't spend as much time with these things as we'd like.

Speaking of help with TiVo, I have an "enhanced" TiVo that was sliced from 4.0.1b to 6.2. It was set up with wireless params in 4.0.1b. Now I'm moving it to a wired network and having trouble getting it to connect. I reconfigured with netconfig but I think it's still "attached" to the wireless adapter. I have shell access via serial. Any hints?

EDIT: After reboot I still see "Wireless Parameters" after running ipflags. How do I get rid of these?

I still have my wireless parameters set too, they don't seem to hurt anything so I just left them alone.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 07:28 AM
I have put the zips where they need to be dl the un file re ran and i got this message Skipping fakecall update
i have disconed my tivo from the web till i figure out if this is a prob.
You can manually run fakecall from bash.
Once you verify fakecall is working it's trivial to add the fakecall.tcl line to your author file to make it run whenever you boot the TiVo.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 07:31 AM
How does this apply if you are using the image from InstantCake on a blank drive?
it applied to Mike's question.
when you restore an image with instantcake it will automatically start you at needing to run guided setup.
The zipper sets the need to call flag to 0 so you won't need to make phone calls as part of guided setup.
If you get a you must connect to tivo service message and it won't let you get to the now playing menu you need to run fakecall from bash.

stevecon
10-25-2005, 09:10 AM
Since the DSR7000 is a non-RID tivo, the #722 trick should work. I pulled an old P4 card out of a standard DirecTV receiver, and it worked find with a Weakness DSR7000. Another option is to buy a card from Weaknees for $25.

I found a discounted older Series 2 open box DTivo at CC, but it didn't have an access card. The folks at CC let me call DTV so I could inquire about a replacement card for the receiver. The CSR at DTV said a new card is just $15.

I explained to the CSR that I would be shutting off a receiver and activating the new one in its place - and wondered if I could use the card from the old unit in the new one. I was told simply "No".

The CC salesman found another DTivo - with a card. I bought it & brought it home. I set it up and called DTV. I deactivated one unit & while activating the new, the DTV CSR asked if I was going to use the old card in the new receiver. I said "Yes" without blinking an eye. It worked flawlessly. The new card is safely tucked away in case I ever need it.

... Just another option for cards.

Dirac
10-25-2005, 09:16 AM
I still have my wireless parameters set too, they don't seem to hurt anything so I just left them alone.

Right, but they're not allowing me to set a static IP address for some reason.

slydog75
10-25-2005, 09:20 AM
it applied to Mike's question.
when you restore an image with instantcake it will automatically start you at needing to run guided setup.
The zipper sets the need to call flag to 0 so you won't need to make phone calls as part of guided setup.
If you get a you must connect to tivo service message and it won't let you get to the now playing menu you need to run fakecall from bash.

Thanks Gunnyman! I'm going to be doing this this weekend and can't wait!

summerall
10-25-2005, 10:04 AM
I bought instant cake for my Hughes DVR40 for $20 at ptvupgrade. Got the Hughes zippered and now I want to do another one.

If I buy a DSR7000 from weaknees it's $35. Is there a cheaper option for me to get a 6.2 image for the DSR7000? I hate to spend another $20 for another instant cake image. Seems like there should be a cheaper option instead of plunking down $20 for an image for every different model tivo I hack.

JediKnight2
10-25-2005, 10:10 AM
Do a search on EMule for Alphawolf...should come up as 62small.mfs or something like that...free 6.2 image. If you have the extra drive...try the 6.2 image you have..it wont hurt anything at most it works at the least it wont...I dont think the image is that different...just make sure you BOOT UP FIRST and get the satellite info and even let it call in...THEN apply the hacks...

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 10:16 AM
I bought instant cake for my Hughes DVR40 for $20 at ptvupgrade. Got the Hughes zippered and now I want to do another one.

If I buy a DSR7000 from weaknees it's $35. Is there a cheaper option for me to get a 6.2 image for the DSR7000? I hate to spend another $20 for another instant cake image. Seems like there should be a cheaper option instead of plunking down $20 for an image for every different model tivo I hack.
you can also use the image you already bought.

You will have to run 51killr.tcl on it and it will show up in system info as teh same model as the tivo model you bought th eimage for, but it will still work.

summerall
10-25-2005, 10:18 AM
OK thanks guys!!!

NYCguy
10-25-2005, 02:18 PM
confused.

I'm now trying to add the tivo to my wireless network and when i go into TiVo Messages & Setup > Settings > i only see Phone instead of Phone & Network Setup.

Am i doing something wrong ?

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 02:21 PM
nope
there are no network screens in 6.2.
You need to configure Wireless using a wired adapter and connecting to tivoweb and running the netconfig module.

NYCguy
10-25-2005, 02:26 PM
nope
there are no network screens in 6.2.
You need to configure Wireless using a wired adapter and connecting to tivoweb and running the netconfig module.

Aiight i was just making sure i didnt skip anything when ussing the Zipper. i just bought the wireless adapter of Ebay and can't wait until it gets here

THX :up:

NYCguy
10-25-2005, 02:32 PM
Another Question. My tivo service # starts with 150 so decided to go with the Linksys WUSB11 ver. 2.8 cause that's the one someone recomended here. Now the wireless standard is 802.11b and i just happens to notice my wireless Routers is a Netgear WGR614 802.11g. Now would that be an issue or i shouldn't worry about it ?

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 02:34 PM
just make sure the router is set to work in BOTH modes.

summerall
10-25-2005, 04:00 PM
Another Question. My tivo service # starts with 150 so decided to go with the Linksys WUSB11 ver. 2.8 cause that's the one someone recomended here. Now the wireless standard is 802.11b and i just happens to notice my wireless Routers is a Netgear WGR614 802.11g. Now would that be an issue or i shouldn't worry about it ?


Will that drop the speeds across his entire network to 802.11b standards or just to the device connected to the Linksys WUSB11? I've always wondered this.

merlincc
10-25-2005, 04:13 PM
I have always been told that if 1 device connected to your wireless network is 802.11b then everything will drop to that speed. That is the reason that some of us have been going the way of the 802.11g wireless bridge.

tosetek
10-25-2005, 04:25 PM
ok, i'm back with some questions:

#1 Since I will be purchasing a new drive, and only removing the old Tivo drive, do I need to do this Maxblast backup?

#2 My Tivo currently does have a 6.2 OS but I want to go to a larger Western Digital 120GB hard drive in my Tivo. To obtain the 6.2 OS for this new hard drive, I need to purchase the $20 Instant Cake cd right?

#3 So I would be spending (which I don't mind) $5 to get the boot disk backup software (which if I'm right on #1, I don't need to do now) and $20 for the Instant Cake cd to get the 6.2 OS, correct? Then another $5 to get the PTVupgrade LBA48 4.01 with Enhancements
The super patch seems to be free.

Just wanted to be sure I was purchasing the correct things here. Thanks....

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 04:28 PM
just use hidsdale's guide to back up your old tivo drive to the new larger one and hack that.
No reason to buy Instantcake for a drive that already has 6.2.
The 5 dollar Boot CD has all the tools necessary to backup/restore to a new drive.
Just THOROUGHLY read hinsdale's guide and follow the directions.

TomK
10-25-2005, 04:33 PM
tosetek,

You can back up your current 6.2 disk with a free Weaknees LBA48 boot cd (download the .iso and burn to a cd) and then restore it to your new drive. Nothing to buy that way and you can use the Zipper procedure.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

edit: Gunny beat me to it and is probably more correct. :)

tosetek
10-25-2005, 05:09 PM
Thanks. So I've downloaded the .iso and burned it to a cd to create my boot cd. I understand the rest except for the FAT32 partition using Maxblast. My friend tells me I shouldn't need to do that since XP will detect this and format it for the new drive.

But, since I'm trying to follow everything step by step, I will be downloading the Maxblast 4 to the new hard drive, right?

Troy

rbautch
10-25-2005, 05:12 PM
you can also use the image you already bought.

You will have to run 51killr.tcl on it and it will show up in system info as teh same model as the tivo model you bought th eimage for, but it will still work.If you use the latest Zipper, you won't need to run 51killer anymore, no matter what image you use.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 05:15 PM
hinsdale's page seems to be down :(

tosetek
10-25-2005, 05:16 PM
ok, thanks. I tried the Hinsdale and couldn't get in, I wasn't being lazy. I'll try again.

Troy

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 05:18 PM
go here
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
follow the prompts :D

rbautch
10-25-2005, 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gfr7
I have put the zips where they need to be dl the un file re ran and i got this message Skipping fakecall update
i have disconed my tivo from the web till i figure out if this is a prob.

The only way to get this message is to answer "n" when the script asks you if you want to update fakecall. You likely already have an updated version from your tivotools download, so this really doesn't matter.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 05:20 PM
Thanks. So I've downloaded the .iso and burned it to a cd to create my boot cd. I understand the rest except for the FAT32 partition using Maxblast. My friend tells me I shouldn't need to do that since XP will detect this and format it for the new drive.

But, since I'm trying to follow everything step by step, I will be downloading the Maxblast 4 to the new hard drive, right?

Troy
I'd like to know who instructed you to use maxblast to clone your tivo drive. Someone has a good thumpin' from me coming to them.

gfr7
10-25-2005, 05:24 PM
The only way to get this message is to answer "n" when the script asks you if you want to update fakecall. You likely already have an updated version from your tivotools download, so this really doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]

when i ran the file it didnt let me say yes or no
could it be my telnet prog(putty)? i have noticed that it seems to echo i couldnt figureout how to stop the echo.

I havent used telnet in along time, back b4 we had a graphical browser

rbautch
10-25-2005, 05:26 PM
Right, but they're not allowing me to set a static IP address for some reason.I happen to have written a tcl script that removes wireless settings from MFS. Run it with tivosh <filename>. After you're done, run the net-launch.sh script that's in /enhancements.

mercurial
10-25-2005, 05:27 PM
I'd like to know who instructed you to use maxblast to clone your tivo drive. Someone has a good thumpin' from me coming to them.

I think some of the directions have you use the new target drive and a utility like MaxBlast to creat a fat partition. You then backup to the fat partition, boot up the new drive under Windows and copy it somewhere, then reboot with the tools disk and do the mfsbackup/restore. I saw that in an upgrade FAQ once. I think it was just a more foolproof way of doing it than trying to explain using an exisitng FAT partition for it.

tosetek
10-25-2005, 05:28 PM
I have a feeling I'm going to be pummeled then, but Step 4 on those instructions is where I got the Maxblast piece from. The last time I tried to partition a drive, it was a disaster!:

You will need a FAT32 partition to make the backup of the TiVo OS. A good option is to use your new drive as a temporary holding place for the backup, then transferring it to the NTFS drive in your PC before re-using this drive as the TiVo drive. You'll need software to format this new drive such as MaxBlast from Maxtor - this will work with most brands of hard drives. You'll need to get this drive formatted as FAT with this software.

rbautch
10-25-2005, 05:29 PM
when i ran the file it didnt let me say yes or no
could it be my telnet prog(putty)? i have noticed that it seems to echo i couldnt figureout how to stop the echo. Yes, putty is your problem. You need to set it so it interprets "enter" as carriage return (cr) only, not CR/LF (carriage return, line feed). If you don't know how to set that in putty, then use the Windows telnet client.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 05:31 PM
I have a feeling I'm going to be pummeled then, but Step 4 on those instructions is where I got the Maxblast piece from. The last time I tried to partition a drive, it was a disaster!:

You will need a FAT32 partition to make the backup of the TiVo OS. A good option is to use your new drive as a temporary holding place for the backup, then transferring it to the NTFS drive in your PC before re-using this drive as the TiVo drive. You'll need software to format this new drive such as MaxBlast from Maxtor - this will work with most brands of hard drives. You'll need to get this drive formatted as FAT with this software.

Oh ok no worries I thought perhaps someone told you you could clone the drive itself with maxblast.
No pummelling needed :D

rbautch
10-25-2005, 05:37 PM
I'd like to request that this thread be limited to questions about the Zipper specifically. Please keep questions about Hinsdale and Tivo drive backups in the upgrade forum where they belong. Over there, they're likely to be seen by many more experts than just me an Gunny. Many questions posted here have already been answered repeadedly over there. Don't mean to be a dick, but this thread is quickly getting diluted to the point where nobody would be willing to read the whole thing to gain some background before trying the Zipper. Thanks...

mikehome
10-25-2005, 05:37 PM
I found a discounted older Series 2 open box DTivo at CC, but it didn't have an access card. The folks at CC let me call DTV so I could inquire about a replacement card for the receiver. The CSR at DTV said a new card is just $15.

I explained to the CSR that I would be shutting off a receiver and activating the new one in its place - and wondered if I could use the card from the old unit in the new one. I was told simply "No".

The CC salesman found another DTivo - with a card. I bought it & brought it home. I set it up and called DTV. I deactivated one unit & while activating the new, the DTV CSR asked if I was going to use the old card in the new receiver. I said "Yes" without blinking an eye. It worked flawlessly. The new card is safely tucked away in case I ever need it.

... Just another option for cards.

The question is...... did they sign you up for another 2 yrs by activating a DVR on the account? I bet they did

tosetek
10-25-2005, 05:42 PM
:cool: no problem, I understand.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 05:47 PM
Aiight i was just making sure i didnt skip anything when ussing the Zipper. i just bought the wireless adapter of Ebay and can't wait until it gets here

THX :up:
Actually Rbautch has a specific script in the enhancements directory after you zipper that will config wireless parameters for you.
You can't do anything in Tivoweb except CHANGE them once they have been set up.

NYCguy
10-25-2005, 05:52 PM
Actually Rbautch has a specific script in the enhancements directory after you zipper that will config wireless parameters for you.
You can't do anything in Tivoweb except CHANGE them once they have been set up.

I actually did that too so i guess im set for that as well.

goony
10-25-2005, 06:09 PM
Many many people think if you don't learn how a hack works you shouldn't use it. Frankly it's a dang set top box and once it's set up you shouldn't have to screw with it. At least that's how I feel about it.Gunny (and others), your work is valuable. I find the guides and scripts extremely useful, even as a seasoned Linux veteran (I do admin work on Unix/Linux for a living).

It is because the DirecTivo software is so darn stable that once I get it hacked I don't mess with it, thus I forget all of the Tivo-specific knowledge (that I had to learn studying at DDB forums for hours because they abhor guides) from the last time I did a hack. I don't want to make a lifelong hobby out of hacking these boxes, I just want to get them hacked/upgraded and leave them alone.

When my situation permits, Mr. Gunny, I will be sending something your way via PayPal.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 06:44 PM
Why, thank you :D

bnm81002
10-25-2005, 07:26 PM
If you use the latest Zipper, you won't need to run 51killer anymore, no matter what image you use.



I guess that you have added that Zipper feature huh? now I have to burn another CD-R disc but great work as always :up: :up: :up:

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 07:30 PM
just use cdrw like the rest of us :p

bnm81002
10-25-2005, 07:32 PM
I know I know but haven't had time to buy any yet, you know how that is when one is so busy :(

craigldavis
10-25-2005, 11:14 PM
I ran the Zipper script on my Tivo drive, but I seem to be unable to telnet to my TiVo.

I have a NetGear FA120 (installed today).

I see that the TiVo is getting an IP address, but telnet to that address doesn't connect.

I also get no response from a ping.

My only concern is I've got something out of sync with the tivo "netfilter" files.

A couple of months ago, I did the "unguide" steps up to installing the drive back in my TiVo, but never got around to buying and installing a network adapter. I noticed tonight that my "netfilter-notenabled" file (from the unguide steps) is no longer in the tivo /etc directory.

Tonight I ran the Zipper shell, and now I have the following "netconfig" files:

894 Nov 3 2004 netfilter-disable
1877 Nov 3 2004 netfilter-neutered

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

stevecon
10-25-2005, 11:27 PM
The question is...... did they sign you up for another 2 yrs by activating a DVR on the account? I bet they did

No mention of it.. but I got an HR10-250 6 weeks ago & was in for 2 yrs from that point - so not an issue really. I've been w/ DTV for many years & have been very happy, I expect I'll be with them long after the agreement expires.

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 11:37 PM
I ran the Zipper script on my Tivo drive, but I seem to be unable to telnet to my TiVo.

I have a NetGear FA120 (installed today).

I see that the TiVo is getting an IP address, but telnet to that address doesn't connect.

I also get no response from a ping.

My only concern is I've got something out of sync with the tivo "netfilter" files.

A couple of months ago, I did the "unguide" steps up to installing the drive back in my TiVo, but never got around to buying and installing a network adapter. I noticed tonight that my "netfilter-notenabled" file (from the unguide steps) is no longer in the tivo /etc directory.

Tonight I ran the Zipper shell, and now I have the following "netconfig" files:

894 Nov 3 2004 netfilter-disable
1877 Nov 3 2004 netfilter-neutered

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
as long as you do not have netfilter-enable your firewall on the tivo is NOT causing the problem.

craigldavis
10-25-2005, 11:45 PM
as long as you do not have netfilter-enable your firewall on the tivo is NOT causing the problem.

What about ping (or lack thereof...) -- should the Tivo respond to ping?

Gunnyman
10-25-2005, 11:48 PM
yes it should
unless you are somehow on a different subnet than your tivo, or you have a firewall issue on your pc, or perhaps don't have the ip address correct.
Lots to explore.
start with the IP address. On most routers I have seen the tivo shows up as its TSN. make absolutely certain you are telnetting, pinging the correct IP.

craigldavis
10-26-2005, 12:17 AM
yes it should
unless you are somehow on a different subnet than your tivo, or you have a firewall issue on your pc, or perhaps don't have the ip address correct.
Lots to explore.
start with the IP address. On most routers I have seen the tivo shows up as its TSN. make absolutely certain you are telnetting, pinging the correct IP.

All checked out so I went back to basics and checked the cable :eek: My Cat 5 wire didn't work.

How odd that it got an IP address but can't actually communicate... Have to cut the ends off and re-crimp new ones on it!

BTW -- the TSN now shows up!

Sorry to bug you with this but your help made me look at the not-so-obvious!!!

Thanks!!!!

Gunnyman
10-26-2005, 06:11 AM
there's a reason tech support people always ask "is your computer actually turned on?"It makes you look at EVERYTHING
Glad you're up and running :D

woods26
10-26-2005, 11:46 AM
woods are you on linux?
The reason the file is listed teh way it is in teh guide is that Windows XP truncates the file name.
the file you want is indeed vmlinux.px.gz
just rename it to match the guide and you will be fine. The script takes care of gunzipping for you.
And don't ask me what I'm doing up at this hr, dang flu put me to bed at 7:30 PM and has me up at 4:30 AM :(


I am indeed on XP but have a linux server and a windows2003 server and several distro's running in VirtualPC just to mess with each to find what I like for desktop use. But, alas, no linux is ready for desktop in my Opinion. This Tivo hacking is all new to me and am very excited for some reason. Thankyou for the process script and your time here. Greatly appreciated.

Flu is terrible. Hope you feel better soon, and anyone else here with the flu. That stuff sux.

Gunnyman
10-26-2005, 11:54 AM
Rbautch is the main power behind the Zipper so we all owe him a beer but your thanks is appreciated :D

slydog75
10-26-2005, 12:06 PM
If you use the latest Zipper, you won't need to run 51killer anymore, no matter what image you use.

Now, is this referring to the 'ToolsCD' download? I'm assuming that would be the heart of the zipper procedure.

Gunnyman
10-26-2005, 12:07 PM
Now, is this referring to the 'ToolsCD' download? I'm assuming that would be the heart of the zipper procedure.
Yes

slydog75
10-26-2005, 04:15 PM
Ok, I burned the bootCD and I can boot to it fine.. A bunch of info runs by on the screen ending with identifying where all my drivers are hooked up and then identifies the IDE ports and then just stops. Nothing happens after that. One time I hit a key on the keyboard while it was sitting there and it gave me some error about my keyboard. Would having a wireless keyboard/mouse have any effect on this?

Gunnyman
10-26-2005, 04:24 PM
yes
need to have usb or ps/2 mouse and keyboard.

Gunnyman
10-26-2005, 04:33 PM
oh there are drivers out there in Linux for those devices but not for a boot disk that loads a mini linux distro on ramdisk :D

slydog75
10-26-2005, 04:52 PM
LOL, yeah I know, I actually like Linux, just haven't had enough courage to switch yet. However, that wasn't it either... Apparently it didn't like my SATA drive being hooked up during the process. So, LESSON ONE.. no wireless keyboards/mouses and LESSON TWO, no SATA drives.

slydog75
10-26-2005, 05:29 PM
One other question that I"m not quite clear on with the posts here. After running zipper and putting the drive back in my tivo, will I be able to use a USB 1.0 adapter? I see that the 2.0 drivers are only installed after running the enhancements which is done over telnet. Is the only way to telnet in to do this over the serial cable?

rbautch
10-26-2005, 06:00 PM
One other question that I"m not quite clear on with the posts here. After running zipper and putting the drive back in my tivo, will I be able to use a USB 1.0 adapter?Yes I see that the 2.0 drivers are only installed after running the enhancements which is done over telnet. Is the only way to telnet in to do this over the serial cable?No.

bnm81002
10-26-2005, 06:50 PM
I would like some clarification for Step H, it states that "if you copied a 6.2 image to your Tools Disk, the script will detect it and prompt you to install it" then between Steps H and I it states "remove the Tools CD, replace it with your PTV Boot Disk and then reboot. Repeat Steps B through G above but this time answer "n" to the image install", why would I have to reboot and repeat the Steps B through G again if I already copied the 6.2 image to my Tools CD, why couldn't I just go to Step I after the Script detects the image and prompts me to install it? see my confusion here, basically it says to do Steps B through G once with the image installed and again w/o installing the image when I could just do it once and go to the next Step which would be Step I? thanks

Gunnyman
10-26-2005, 07:25 PM
IF you have installed an image as part of your zipper process, you MUST reboot for that image to be initialized.
If you aren't installing an image, no reboot is needed.

bnm81002
10-26-2005, 08:06 PM
IF you have installed an image as part of your zipper process, you MUST reboot for that image to be initialized.
If you aren't installing an image, no reboot is needed.



now that's more clear and precise, if the Image is on the Tools CD then have to reboot to initialize it, gotcha, thanks much

slydog75
10-26-2005, 10:28 PM
Ok, I zippered and have booted up fine and everything is working normally. However, my stupid DirecWay modem/router doesn't allow me to see the DHCP tables to I have no idea what the IP address for the tivo is. I've tried pinging a few random IPs but cannot find it. I have a Belkin USB 1.0 adapter attached and the LED on it is lighting up so I'm assuming it's working. Is the tivo assigned a default name that I can try to ping to acquire it's IP address or any other way to figure out if it has one or what it is? Got the serial port working.

rbautch
10-26-2005, 10:32 PM
I would try to ping an IP address close to your other network devices. Barring that, there's several threads on how to make a serial cable work - aint that hard. Once you get that going, the enhancements script will prompt you to set a static IP. The last resort is to wait for the next version of the Zipper, which will allow you to set a static IP while the drive is still in the PC.

slydog75
10-26-2005, 10:36 PM
crud, I'm also getting a message in 'now playing' saying that a hardware problem has been detected and that I will not be able to record or watch recordings until it has been resolved. Then it says I need to reboot, but I keep getting the same message.

I have the serial port working now,. should I be getting a command prompt over the port? The last thing that it sent after rebooting was "....sending Done event".

I used a DSR704 image from Instantcake on a Hughes DVR80 but I used the latest version of Zipper in which this isnt' supposed to be an issue. I also used the PTV Boot CD for the kernel.

Edit: I see now that it is the same old error 51.. so i'll fix that as soon as I can get a command into the box... agian, I'm not getting a prompt over the serial cable using hyperterminal.

NYCguy
10-26-2005, 10:44 PM
crud, I'm also getting a message in 'now playing' saying that a hardware problem has been detected and that I will not be able to record or watch recordings until it has been resolved. Then it says I need to reboot, but I keep getting the same message.

I have the serial port working now,. should I be getting a command prompt over the port? The last thing that it sent after rebooting was "....sending Done event".

I used a DSR704 image on a Hughes DVR80 but I used the latest version of Zipper in which this isnt' supposed to be an issue.

I was having the same problem

Just telnet to the tivo
type 51killer.tcl
hit enter
reboot tivo

:up:

slydog75
10-26-2005, 10:48 PM
Here's what I'm getting concerning the network adpater over the serial cable:

usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x50d/0x121) is not claimed by any active driver.
pegasus.c: eth0: link NOT established (0x7849) - check the cable.

Gunnyman
10-26-2005, 10:56 PM
ok so it SEES the usb nic that's good.
you either have a bad port on the router, a bad cable or perhaps your router isn't running DHCP.

summerall
10-26-2005, 11:28 PM
rbautch -

I did a "ps" at the bash prompt and I don't see anything that tells me cron is running. What name should I be looking for in the list? I've got my tivo hooked to the phone line so I want to make sure cron is running. Or do I even need to care about cron running since the phone script prevents calls to tivo?

slydog75
10-26-2005, 11:30 PM
Ok, I'm up and running with everything now after I ran enhancements over the serial cable. However I'm getting a troublesome error over the serial cable...

"couldn't open "/var/spool/cron/cronlogs/CRONLOG-MAIN": no such file or directory

while executing
"open /var/spool/cron/cronlogs/CRONLOG-MAIN a"
(file "/busybox/fakecall.tcl" line 87)
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended"

and then towards the very end it repeats the EXT2-fs warning 4 more times in a row.

Dirac
10-26-2005, 11:32 PM
I happen to have written a tcl script that removes wireless settings from MFS. Run it with tivosh <filename>. After you're done, run the net-launch.sh script that's in /enhancements.

Russ, this was great! I entered my settings manually with netconfig.tcl since I use the router for gateway and modem for DNS server. It cleaned out my wireless settings, I rebooted and... TiVo is still getting its IP address via DHCP.

Next, tried renaming dhclient in /sbin and rebooting. As expected, I can no longer connect to TiVo through TCP/IP.

Interestingly, ipflags.tcl reports DHCP is off and no wireless parameters are set. I'm not sure what else could be interfering with my ability to set the IP address. I thought it was the presence of wireless parameters and the NetworkMedium flag.

At least I have connectivity via DHCP. I might shuffle shows via MRV and re-image, but it seems like there would be a better way. Maybe because I set up the settings in 4.0.1b, there's another place that has to be "undone" to get the network initialized according to MFS settings?

rbautch
10-26-2005, 11:45 PM
rbautch -

I did a "ps" at the bash prompt and I don't see anything that tells me cron is running. What name should I be looking for in the list? I've got my tivo hooked to the phone line so I want to make sure cron is running. Or do I even need to care about cron running since the phone script prevents calls to tivo?look for /busybox/crond. If it's not there, reboot, and then check again. If still no, check your author file to make sure the script appended the crond startup command to it. You can also try uninstalling and then reinstalling the script.

rbautch
10-26-2005, 11:49 PM
"couldn't open "/var/spool/cron/cronlogs/CRONLOG-MAIN": no such file or directory

while executing
"open /var/spool/cron/cronlogs/CRONLOG-MAIN a"
(file "/busybox/fakecall.tcl" line 87) This is odd. Did you run the script more than once, selecting "no" to the cron installation? Anyway, it shouldn't pose a problem, unless you try to connect a phoneline. You might try uninstalling/reinstalling the script when you get access through your network.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended"
This can safely be ignored.

rbautch
10-26-2005, 11:54 PM
Russ, this was great! I entered my settings manually with netconfig.tcl since I use the router for gateway and modem for DNS server. It cleaned out my wireless settings, I rebooted and... TiVo is still getting its IP address via DHCP.

Next, tried renaming dhclient in /sbin and rebooting. As expected, I can no longer connect to TiVo through TCP/IP.

Interestingly, ipflags.tcl reports DHCP is off and no wireless parameters are set. I'm not sure what else could be interfering with my ability to set the IP address. I thought it was the presence of wireless parameters and the NetworkMedium flag.

At least I have connectivity via DHCP. I might shuffle shows via MRV and re-image, but it seems like there would be a better way. Maybe because I set up the settings in 4.0.1b, there's another place that has to be "undone" to get the network initialized according to MFS settings?Are you setting an IP address anywhere else that might cause a conflict, like in your author file (with ifconfig)?

Dirac
10-27-2005, 12:18 AM
No--I never entered an IP address after setting it up in 4.0.1b. I'll check through author and test.conf once I get some time to get the serial cable back on it and see if there's anything hanging around there. Thanks for the idea.

tivoenthused
10-27-2005, 02:53 AM
Gunny + Russ,

Just Zippered my 2nd DTiVo in under an hour. Thanks again for the hard work. Life with a hacked TiVo is so beautiful.

craigldavis
10-27-2005, 10:40 AM
rbautch & Gunnyman:

:up: You Rock! :up:

My DTivo's are Zipper'd and talking! The longest part of the effort was running my cat5 (i wanted full 100 MBPS). WIth the USB 2.0 drivers, it's darn fast!


bash-2.02# speed
TCP STREAM TEST to 192.168.0.202
Recv Send Send Utilization Service Demand
Socket Socket Message Elapsed Send Recv Send Recv
Size Size Size Time Throughput local remote local remote
bytes bytes bytes secs. 10^6bits/s % S % S us/KB us/KB

131070 131070 131070 10.05 13.44 75.21 68.92 458.441 420.061
bash-2.02#

summerall
10-27-2005, 01:17 PM
Can someone point me to directions on how to uninstall and reinstall rbauthch's enhancement scripts?

I had NCID working and after changing the ncidd.alias and opt2osd files it doesn't work anymore. Only thing I can think to do now is reinstall the scripts over again.

JediKnight2
10-27-2005, 01:34 PM
Umm....cd /hacks
then type ./tweak-uninstall.sh

LOOK a few posts back to get a replacement for tweak-uninstall as he changed a few things so it wouldnt give you a problem when reinstalling

after uninstall...type in ./tweak.sh

ttodd1
10-27-2005, 01:36 PM
From the website:

6. To uninstall, just run the uninstall script with: sh tweak-uninstall.sh

marcush
10-27-2005, 02:02 PM
Gunnyman, would you also pm me the info you sent to mikehome. I have been preparing to hack my DirecTivo also and wondered about getting the recordings from it transferred to my SA Tivo. It may not be worthwhile for me to do anything to the DirecTivo if I can only interact with the web interface and not be able to extract the recordings. I would probably go out and buy another used standalone.

mike,
yes with some caveats.
A standalone Series 2 can only MRV to a Directivo if IT has been superpatched as well.
Many of the Series 2 standalones being sold retail need some eeprom modifications done to enable the hack.
also check your PM's

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 02:16 PM
marcush since you have a hackable standalone just go search ddb for how to hack it and install superpatch on it.

summerall
10-27-2005, 02:17 PM
If I uninstall and reinstall the enhancements scripts will I loose all my season passes and recorded shows?

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 02:27 PM
nope

NYCguy
10-27-2005, 02:50 PM
im trying to network the Tivo using the WUSB11 ver 2.6 and i cant

this is the message i get when connecting the wireless adapter


usb.c: unable to get descriptor
KBUILD_BASENAME.c: Device Reset failed
KBUILD_BASENAME.c: device initialization failed
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x77b/0x2219) is not claimed by any active drive

The wireless adapter is the Lynksys WUSB11 ver 2.6

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 02:51 PM
did you set up your wireless parameters with the script in /enancements?

NYCguy
10-27-2005, 03:07 PM
did you set up your wireless parameters with the script in /enancements?

i did run the enancements script using a tivo null cable i selected DHCP

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 04:12 PM
theres more you have to do
from bash
cd /enhancements
run the setSSIDwep.tcl file
enter your wireless parameters
reboot tivo

NYCguy
10-27-2005, 04:40 PM
theres more you have to do
from bash
cd /enhancements
run the setSSIDwep.tcl file
enter your wireless parameters
reboot tivo

thank you i'll try that tonight and will post an update

:up:

marcush
10-27-2005, 05:08 PM
Thanks for the pointer Gunnyman. I found what I was looking for at DD. So am I to understand then that The Zipper installs the Superpatch on the DirecTivo, or do I need to go back and superpatch it as well afterward.


marcush since you have a hackable standalone just go search ddb for how to hack it and install superpatch on it.

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 05:26 PM
zipper does it for you.

marcush
10-27-2005, 06:05 PM
Excellent!

jbodden6977
10-27-2005, 07:26 PM
PLEASE is there a way to hack the Tivo to make it act like a normal vcr?
I am so sick of paying Tivo for their 'subscription' which is very much like being forced to rent the part of a normal vcr they decided to leave out.
My directv box could easily control the Tivo - at least for record and stop commands IF the Dtv box included the Tivo code commands OR the Tivo could respond to garden variety stop and record commands.

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 07:31 PM
why dont you have a directivo?
to answer your question, which is off topic to this thread by the way, is no.

summerall
10-27-2005, 08:36 PM
look for /busybox/crond. If it's not there, reboot, and then check again. If still no, check your author file to make sure the script appended the crond startup command to it. You can also try uninstalling and then reinstalling the script.

Where can I find the author file?

Thanks

Dirac
10-27-2005, 08:38 PM
The file is /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.author

Much easier to just type "author" :D

summerall
10-27-2005, 10:11 PM
I'm trying to uninstall the tweaks and I type:

cd /hacks [enter]

./tweak-uninstall.sh [enter]

./tweak-uninstall.sh: no such file or directory

So then I try:

sh tweak-uninstall.sh [enter]

: command not found
in /etc/fstab or var/mtab
Removing directories and files...
: command not found
tweak-uninstall.sh line 97: syntax error near unexpected token 'fi'
'weak-uinstall.sh: line 97: 'fi


What am I doing wrong? I want to uninstall and reinstall the enhancement tweaks, I hope I didn't break anything.

Thanks

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 10:29 PM
run the .sh files thru dos2unix
dos2unix *.sh from the /hacks directory

summerall
10-27-2005, 10:50 PM
I'm sorry Gunnyman but I'm not good at all this unix stuff...

What do you mean? Is "dos2unix" a program?

Gunnyman
10-27-2005, 11:59 PM
yes
just type what I said to type

summerall
10-28-2005, 12:08 AM
Ok got past that step...

Now its says I have an unpatched tivo app. Should I delete it, keep it, or ftp to my pc?

Thanks

summerall
10-28-2005, 10:30 AM
I just ftp'ed a copy to my pc and deleted the one on the tivo. Seems to be working fine.

NYCguy
10-28-2005, 10:46 AM
theres more you have to do
from bash
cd /enhancements
run the setSSIDwep.tcl file
enter your wireless parameters
reboot tivo

thank you i'll try that tonight and will post an update

:up:

that finally did it, im able to ping, telnet and ftp into the tivo :D .

One thing i noticed is that the Tivo is not showing on the Router DHCP Client Table :confused:

eddyj
10-28-2005, 12:20 PM
OK, so everything seems to be working fine with my two hacked DTiVos, but the MRV speed is horrible. Mych worse than real time. I let a program transfer for 5 minutes yesterday, and had about 30 seconds of program only. This is not an isolated occurrence, it has been this slow every time I try MRV.

Running the netperf "speed" command that the script installs gives me this:


bash-2.02# speed
TCP STREAM TEST to 192.168.2.102
Recv Send Send Utilization Service Demand
Socket Socket Message Elapsed Send Recv Send Recv
Size Size Size Time Throughput local remote local remote
bytes bytes bytes secs. 10^6bits/s % S % S us/KB us/KB

131070 131070 131070 11.68 0.36 25.86 38.22 5836.713 8626.213
bash-2.02#

I don't really know what nunbers I should be seeing, hopefully someone else can tell me if those look right.

Any clues on why it is so slow? I an using the FA120 wired adapters, with the Belkin bridges, just like Gunny suggested.

TomK
10-28-2005, 12:26 PM
Wow, Eddy....that throughput looks WAY low. I'm running wired DTiVos so I can't help on the wireless front but my throughput was 14.78. Something has to be drastically wrong with your setup.

eddyj
10-28-2005, 01:01 PM
Well, after rebooting one of the bridges, it looks much better. But I am still not sure it these are reasonable numbers:


bash-2.02# speed
TCP STREAM TEST to 192.168.2.102
Recv Send Send Utilization Service Demand
Socket Socket Message Elapsed Send Recv Send Recv
Size Size Size Time Throughput local remote local remote
bytes bytes bytes secs. 10^6bits/s % S % S us/KB us/KB

131070 131070 131070 10.14 2.96 40.35 45.54 1118.131 1262.031
bash-2.02#

Gunnyman
10-28-2005, 01:06 PM
eddy you did say YES to USB 2.0 driver install right?

eddyj
10-28-2005, 01:16 PM
As far as I know, I said yes to both. Not sure what is going on, my speed tests fluctuate wildly even when run back-to-back.

I an trying to change the channel, to see if that works...

Is there any way to test the speed between a TiVo and my PC? I wonder if one of the bridges is flakey.

Gunnyman
10-28-2005, 01:25 PM
best way is to do that thing we aren't allowed to talk about with that "tool" we aren't allowed to discuss
in other words contact me off board :p

eddyj
10-28-2005, 01:27 PM
For what it is worth, changing the channel did nothing. I still get wildly different results in consecutive speed tests, from less than 1 to more than 4. :(

classicsat
10-28-2005, 04:34 PM
PLEASE is there a way to hack the Tivo to make it act like a normal vcr?
I am so sick of paying Tivo for their 'subscription' which is very much like being forced to rent the part of a normal vcr they decided to leave out.
My directv box could easily control the Tivo - at least for record and stop commands IF the Dtv box included the Tivo code commands OR the Tivo could respond to garden variety stop and record commands.

Not than can be discussed here, as that is theft of service.
You bought the TiVo going in knowing you had to pay to play.
If you don't want to pay for TiVo service, you have every right to get rid of the TiVo and choose a DVR that has service options more suitable to your desres.

slydog75
10-28-2005, 07:55 PM
What usb 2.0 drivers are loaded with this? What transfer speeds should I be seeing? I'm currently getting only .7mbps which is hardly better than I was getting with my old usb1.0 drivers.

Gunnyman
10-28-2005, 08:00 PM
we're using the backported drivers discussed on DDB.
There's a full list of the supported adapters over there.
Which adapter are you using?

slydog75
10-28-2005, 08:11 PM
FA120.. odd thing is I just uninstalled the enhancements to do some testing and I can still use the FA120 even though it's a USB2.0 device? Why is that? Also, when I did a ps x after uninstalling the enhancements, this is what I get:

PID Uid VmSize Stat Command
1 0 364 S init
2 0 SW [keventd]
3 0 RWN [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
4 0 SW [kswapd]
5 0 SW [bdflush]
6 0 SW [kupdated]
44 0 784 S /sbin/syslogd -p /var/dev/log -m 10000
46 0 620 S /sbin/klogd
58 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
61 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
62 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
63 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
64 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
65 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
66 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
67 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
80 0 1320 S /tvbin/fancontrol -background
83 0 3792 S /tvbin/TvLauncher -Foreground -platform trinity
85 0 3796 S /tvbin/TvLauncher -Foreground -platform trinity
86 0 3796 S /tvbin/TvLauncher -Foreground -platform trinity
88 0 3796 S /tvbin/TvLauncher -Foreground -platform trinity
89 0 4468 S mfsd
90 0 4468 S mfsd
91 0 4468 S mfsd
92 0 4468 S mfsd
93 0 4468 S mfsd
119 0 5452 S shmemd
120 0 5452 S shmemd
121 0 5452 S shmemd
122 0 5452 S shmemd
123 0 5452 S shmemd
124 0 3840 S mcp
125 0 3840 S mcp
126 0 3840 S mcp
127 0 3840 S mcp
128 0 3840 S mcp
129 0 4760 S dbgc-mcp
130 0 4760 S dbgc-mcp
131 0 4760 S dbgc-mcp
132 0 4760 S dbgc-mcp
133 0 4760 S dbgc-mcp
134 0 4760 S dbgc-mcp
135 0 4116 S huxley
136 0 4116 S huxley
137 0 4116 S huxley
138 0 4116 S huxley
139 0 4116 S huxley
140 0 4116 S huxley
141 0 4988 S SystemServices
142 0 4988 S SystemServices
143 0 4988 S SystemServices
144 0 4988 S SystemServices
145 0 4988 S SystemServices
146 0 4988 S SystemServices
147 0 5404 S tcphonehome
149 0 SW [khubd]
151 0 5404 S tcphonehome
152 0 5404 S tcphonehome
153 0 5404 S tcphonehome
154 0 5404 S tcphonehome
161 0 5404 S tcphonehome
162 0 5404 S tcphonehome
163 0 5404 S tcphonehome
164 0 4872 S PassKeyComponent
165 0 4872 S PassKeyComponent
166 0 4872 S PassKeyComponent
167 0 4872 S PassKeyComponent
168 0 4872 S PassKeyComponent
169 0 4772 S KnownHostComponent
170 0 4772 S KnownHostComponent
171 0 4772 S KnownHostComponent
172 0 4772 S KnownHostComponent
175 0 4772 S KnownHostComponent
176 0 4892 S NetworkVideoService
178 0 4892 S NetworkVideoService
179 0 4892 S NetworkVideoService
180 0 4892 S NetworkVideoService
181 0 4892 S NetworkVideoService
182 0 4892 S NetworkVideoService
183 0 7696 S ApgManager
184 0 7696 S ApgManager
185 0 7696 S ApgManager
186 0 7696 S ApgManager
187 0 7696 S ApgManager
188 0 7696 S ApgManager
189 0 7696 S ApgManager
190 0 7696 S ApgManager
191 0 12996 S myworld
192 0 12996 S myworld
193 0 12996 S myworld
194 0 12996 S myworld
195 0 12996 S myworld
196 0 12996 S myworld
197 0 12996 S myworld
198 0 12996 S myworld
199 0 12996 S myworld
200 0 12996 S myworld
201 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
202 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
203 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
204 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
205 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
206 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
207 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
208 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
209 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
210 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
211 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
212 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
213 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
214 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
215 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
216 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
217 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
218 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
219 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
220 0 12996 S myworld
221 0 1648 S /tvbin/dssappAV
222 0 12996 S myworld
223 0 12996 S myworld
224 0 12996 S myworld
225 0 12996 S myworld
226 0 12996 S myworld
227 0 12996 S myworld
228 0 12996 S myworld
229 0 12996 S myworld
230 0 12996 S myworld
231 0 12996 S myworld
232 0 12996 S myworld
233 0 12996 S myworld
234 0 12996 S myworld
235 0 12996 S myworld
236 0 12996 S myworld
237 0 12996 S myworld
238 0 12996 S myworld
239 0 12996 S myworld
240 0 12996 S myworld
241 0 12996 S myworld
242 0 12996 S myworld
243 0 12996 S myworld
244 0 12996 S myworld
245 0 276 S /sbin/mpg321 -i -a /dev/brcmpcm1 -g 75 -T -G 10 -R xx
246 0 7696 S ApgManager
247 0 4672 S SiHost -name SiHost_Soma -provide soma_musicphoto -pr
248 0 4672 S SiHost -name SiHost_Soma -provide soma_musicphoto -pr
249 0 4672 S SiHost -name SiHost_Soma -provide soma_musicphoto -pr
250 0 4672 S SiHost -name SiHost_Soma -provide soma_musicphoto -pr
251 0 4672 S SiHost -name SiHost_Soma -provide soma_musicphoto -pr
252 0 4672 S SiHost -name SiHost_Soma -provide soma_musicphoto -pr
258 0 3772 S RendezvousClient
260 0 3776 S RendezvousClient
261 0 3776 S RendezvousClient
262 0 3776 S RendezvousClient
263 0 3776 S RendezvousClient
267 0 520 S tnlited 23 /bin/bash -login
269 0 332 S tivoftpd
270 0 1004 S /bin/bash
280 0 12996 S myworld
281 0 1176 S /bin/bash -login
282 0 732 R ps x


Am I supposed to have so many copies of the same services running? Like the 22 instances of 'myworld' that are running?

Gunnyman
10-28-2005, 08:19 PM
The FA120 falls back to usb 1.1 mode
your ps looks totally normal.
What are your xfer speeds like without the USB 2.0 drivers? the same?
Try a re-install of the enhancements.
I see about 1600-2000 KB/s with mine thru a 54G bridge.

slydog75
10-28-2005, 08:46 PM
Ok, I redid the enchancements and now I"m getting about 1.4mbps .better and acceptable..but not the 2+ I was hoping for. Any other tips? I should also mention I"m using the server version of the program that we can't talk about that doesn't need the nowshowing file.

Gunnyman
10-28-2005, 08:51 PM
lots of tweaks and stuff in teh soapbox derby thread on DDB.
1.4 is NOT bad though.
netperf test between two tivos is a good representation of network speed as well.

slydog75
10-28-2005, 10:04 PM
I'm so out of touch over there now.. do we need the vwait patch? Thanks for all your help

Gunnyman
10-28-2005, 10:06 PM
your question is beyond the scope of this thread. As I said LOTS of pointers in the Soapbox Derby thread.

slydog75
10-29-2005, 12:05 AM
Ok, I'm good to go! mfs_ftp and tserver added to my ZIPPERED DTivo completes the project! Thanks so much to Gunnyman and Rbauch for a great compilation and amazing support!

Vryce
10-29-2005, 12:17 AM
Is there a list of usb ethernet adapters that work with the DTV models?

I have a Phillips DSR-704 Series 2 model. I managed to Zipper a new drive using a fresh image from instant cake.

After a few hitches, I am watching TV on my unit. In the system setup, it reflects the new drive size. I don't have local channels, but I read elsewhere that it could take 24-48 hours for them to show up. If they aren't showing in a couple days, should be easy enough to remedy.

Some weird observations. The instant cake I downloaded, I specifically put in DSR-704. When I look at my system information, it shows my model as DSR7000, where pre-upgrade it did say DSR704. Not a huge deal, I assume.

I don't appear to have network though. I tried a USB ethernet unit. When it is plugged in, the light blinks as it is trying to get network info. Then the light goes off.

I pulled a wireless usb ethernet unit that I have working in another SA tivo unit, and that doesn't pull in a connection either.

Did I miss a set to enable the usb ports or networking?

I followed the directions on http://www.mastersav.com/tivo_zipper.html
I'm stuck at step K/L since I can't connect it to my network.

Any help is greatly appreceiated.

Also, I tried to do a phone test connection. It sits on negotiating for a while and then errors out (Failed while negotiting).

But in the system information, it shows my account in good standing. So I don't think I'm worried at this point.

jakenjill
10-29-2005, 12:17 AM
Thanks for doing this guys. I'm having a little problem that might have a quick, easy answer. I have my cdrom at hdb, and my tivo drive at hdd. When I try to restore the 6.2 image off the tools CD that I copied directly from the instantcake CD, I get the following message:

"Restore failed: Backup target not large enough for entire backup by itself.

root is 4
boot is 3

bootpath is /dev/hdd3
rootpath is /dev/hdd4
Please replace the tools disk with the boot disk, then reboot your PC...
PTVupgrade /cdrom"

I have tried moving the HD to hda and get the same message. The unit the drive came out of is a DVR40. It is completely stock. I am unsure of the software version currently on the drive because it was given to me used by a friend. I didn't think it mattered though, considering that I would just wipe the drive by installing the new 6.2 image. Also, when I skipped the image restore and went straight to zippering the drive I got no error messages and everything seemed to go fine. However, when I installed the drive back in the tivo and attempted to boot, I never got past the "Powering up..." screen. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

rbautch
10-29-2005, 12:33 AM
"Restore failed: Backup target not large enough for entire backup by itself.
What boot CD are you using, and is it lba48-aware?

rbautch
10-29-2005, 12:40 AM
Is there a list of usb ethernet adapters that work with the DTV models? Been asked/answered many times. Use a search.

Some weird observations. The instant cake I downloaded, I specifically put in DSR-704. When I look at my system information, it shows my model as DSR7000, where pre-upgrade it did say DSR704. Not a huge deal, I assume.Shouldn't matter, but you might let PTVupgrade know.

I don't appear to have network though. I tried a USB ethernet unit. When it is plugged in, the light blinks as it is trying to get network info. Then the light goes off.Could be an incompatible adapter. Which one do you have?

I pulled a wireless usb ethernet unit that I have working in another SA tivo unit, and that doesn't pull in a connection either. If it's a g adapter it won't work.

Did I miss a set to enable the usb ports or networking?No. Did you get any error messages when you ran the Zipper. You might try to re-run it if your problem persists.

Also, I tried to do a phone test connection. It sits on negotiating for a while and then errors out (Failed while negotiting). You should't be attempting to call Tivo with a hacked unit, nor should you even have a phone line connected.

Vryce
10-29-2005, 12:51 AM
Been asked/answered many times. Use a search.

Shouldn't matter, but you might let PTVupgrade know.

Could be an incompatible adapter. Which one do you have?
If it's a g adapter it won't work.

No. Did you get any error messages when you ran the Zipper. You might try to re-run it if your problem persists.
You should't be attempting to call Tivo with a hacked unit, nor should you even have a phone line connected.

Tried a search, I might not be using a good search phrase, I'll keep looking.

The usb ethernet adapter is a Hawking HUF11 USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter.

No error messages when I ran zipper. It said it hacked the drive successfully , or something like that.

I'm making a post at PTVupgrade to enquire about the model dispay in system info. **Edit** They give this response(another person asked about it.)

"Please check the first 3 digits of the service number on the rear of the unit (or in the info screen in TiVoWebPlus) and then check the last 3 digits of the "software system" as displayed by your "system information" screen (or the info screen in TiVoWebPlus). As long as those are the same, you are fine. If you are talking about the name reported by the IRD model, it does not matter what that says, as long as the numbers above, match."


My numbers did match. and it is the IRD model that reports DSR7000. So, it looks like I'm fine and the right software was deliverd.


Removed phone cord from DTV.

For the most part, it appears that Zipper worked. I have my channels, less local at the moment. It looks like those star messages are gone.

So, I'd say I'm pretty happy at this point. and its about 95% successful. I'll be looking for a different usb ethernet adapter tomorrow.

SteelersFan
10-29-2005, 01:19 AM
Is there a list of usb ethernet adapters that work with the DTV models?
Try this thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=266939&highlight=fa120) post #4. :up:

vsaltv
10-29-2005, 12:06 PM
The zipper install went well, but I'm perplexed by why everytime in telnet when I press enter I get 2 prompts like this example:

bash-2.02#
bash-2.02# pwd
/busybox
bash-2.02#
bash-2.02#

I had to rewrite some of the scripts that asked for yes/no answers to accept a
dummy CRLF after each prompt so it would stop skipping past this. I've tried every terminal combination in putty to stop this and it also does the same thing in windows telnet, so i'm thinking it has to be the tivo settings that's not emulating a terminal correctly.

Could someone assist in fixing this? It's not hindering anything anymore just more of an annoyance at this point :)

ttodd1
10-29-2005, 12:10 PM
"Additional Instructions for Windows XP SP2 Users

If you use the telnet client built in to Window XP Service Pack 2, you must follow these
instructions to open your telnet session, otherwise an extra carriage return could be added,
interfering with the interactive portions of the scripts. If you have Service Pack 1, you
don't need these addtional steps.


1. Start--->Run, type in "cmd" the return
2. Type in "telnet" then return
3. Type in "unset crlf" then return
4. To connect to your Tivo, type "o xx.xx.xx.xx" where the x's are your Tivo's IP address."

Vryce
10-29-2005, 01:31 PM
Okay... I think I am 100% done and very happy now.

I bought the LinkSys USB200M ver. 1 adapter.

I was able to get in and telnet into my Tivo. I ran the tweak script and went through all the configurations.

Thank you for the awesome setup and guide/software.

SteelersFan
10-29-2005, 01:46 PM
I have another quick question:
I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC that only has capability for 1 HD. In addition, I have 1 CD-ROM and 1 CD-RW (these use a common cable). Does someone know or is there a way to find out what location on the IDE chain these are on (a, b, c, d)?
Also, I assume I can disconnect my PC HD and put my Tivo HD in its place when booting to the PTV BOOT CD, correct?

Gunnyman
10-29-2005, 01:51 PM
you may end up having to look on your motherboard.
UNless the main HD in the dell is a SATA drive it will almost undoubtably be on /dev/hda your cdroms are dev/hdc and dev/hdd
if it IS SATA then your cdrom drives are on /dev/hda and /dev/hdb.

vsaltv
10-29-2005, 01:53 PM
"Additional Instructions for Windows XP SP2 Users

If you use the telnet client built in to Window XP Service Pack 2, you must follow these
instructions to open your telnet session, otherwise an extra carriage return could be added,
interfering with the interactive portions of the scripts. If you have Service Pack 1, you
don't need these addtional steps.


1. Start--->Run, type in "cmd" the return
2. Type in "telnet" then return
3. Type in "unset crlf" then return
4. To connect to your Tivo, type "o xx.xx.xx.xx" where the x's are your Tivo's IP address."
thanks ttodd1, that will help. i was running unset crlf on the tivo itself with no change. is there a way to change the tivo parameters to echo a terminal properly so this command is unneeded?

rbautch
10-29-2005, 02:08 PM
I've only been able to do it with 3rd party telnet clients, which are so much better anyway.

jakenjill
10-29-2005, 05:21 PM
What boot CD are you using, and is it lba48-aware?

I am using the PTVLBA48-4.01DD boot CD. I followed the instructions to a tee. :confused:

Gunnyman
10-29-2005, 05:30 PM
which instantcake are you using, does it match the model number of the tivo? and since the HD came from a friend, can you be sure it's the factory drive?
This problem occurs often when you are using an 80 gig image on a 40 gig drive. Also, not all HD's are created equal. A 40 gig maxtor is not the same geometrically as a 40 gig seagate for example.
The easiest way to solve this problem is to purchase a larger HD.

jakenjill
10-29-2005, 05:37 PM
which instantcake are you using, does it match the model number of the tivo? and since the HD came from a friend, can you be sure it's the factory drive?
This problem occurs often when you are using an 80 gig image on a 40 gig drive. Also, not all HD's are created equal. A 40 gig maxtor is not the same geometrically as a 40 gig seagate for example.
The easiest way to solve this problem is to purchase a larger HD.

I am absolutely sure that the drive is factory stock. The model is DVR-40, and I am using the image from Instantcake-DVR406.2-01-2-321. I was planning on buying a larger drive anyways and applying this hack. I was just messing around with the stock drive until the larger one arrived. It should work though, right?