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Luv2DrvFst
03-18-2006, 11:16 AM
127.0.0.1 is local host it's tivo's own internal IP address.
use twprs from bash to restart TWP.
I can start TWP okay, I'm just trying to figure out why it won't stop every night like it's supposed to. Why do you suppose the wget command fails? I guess I'm confused by what the wget command is really doing. I can stop TWP with Hackman, but not with that line from the crontab. Still confused.

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 11:21 AM
I'll defer this question to Rbautch since TWP is his baby.

chungsyi
03-18-2006, 11:34 AM
Gunnyman and gang,
:up: :up: :up: :up:
Thanks very much for your work. I attempted this (zipper) on my modifed diectivo (added 2nd hard drive myself) and I couldn't get it to "boot". Did I miss something? I kept the image that was already on my hard drive. Thanks in advance. ;) ;)

dfk70
03-18-2006, 11:43 AM
Gunnyman and gang,
:up: :up: :up: :up:
Thanks very much for your work. I attempted this (zipper) on my modifed diectivo (added 2nd hard drive myself) and I couldn't get it to "boot". Did I miss something? I kept the image that was already on my hard drive. Thanks in advance. ;) ;)

Check the drive jumpers.

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 11:45 AM
too many things to list that need checking.
Start with the trouble shooting section of the wiki (linked in my Sig) and check back if you still have problems.

wrz0170
03-18-2006, 12:03 PM
Yes.
set the router for 192.168.1.1 for example
then set dchp to use 192.168.1.2 and above
then rezipper the tivo and assign it an IP within the range of 192.168.1.2- 192.168.1.xx


Sorry Gunny. Little more confused. What you mentioned above is what I did originally (except for assigning the Tivo a higher IP than xx.2 because that one was already taken).

When I first went into my router setup, the example setting you gave above is dead on.

Router was set at 192.168.1.1

With "use router as DHCP Server" checked

It then gave the specified range to pick from of xx.02 through xx.51

Jayboy
03-18-2006, 12:06 PM
Does the Zipper have the Tivo side of TyTools installed? It is my understanding the Sleeper hack does.

pendragn
03-18-2006, 12:08 PM
Does the Zipper have the Tivo side of TyTools installed? It is my understanding the Sleeper hack does.
It does not. You can grab it from other places, but we can't really discuss it here. A guy named Jamie wrote the stuff you're looking for, if that helps.

tk

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 12:08 PM
no it doesn't.

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 12:08 PM
Sorry Gunny. Little more confused. What you mentioned above is what I did originally (except for assigning the Tivo a higher IP than xx.2 because that one was already taken).

When I first went into my router setup, the example setting you gave above is dead on.

Router was set at 192.168.1.1

With "use router as DHCP Server" checked

It then gave the specified range to pick from of xx.02 through xx.51
Ok cool
can you PING the tivo?

wrz0170
03-18-2006, 12:48 PM
Ha!!!!!! Finally got in. This is what I had to do and unfortunately, there is a "but".
I had to set my TIVO to an IP outside the given range. In this case, I set it way outside. My router found it and I was able to ping successfully.

Here is the "but"

I was able to Telnet and sort of run the script. Where it gave me a fit twice is it says:

Your telnet client is adding extra line feeds, causing this script to fail.
No problem. Just re-run the script again using the "Additional
Directions for Windows XP users", or use a different telnet client with
the proper CR/LF settings. Exiting now...

Is there a work around for this or should I use another client, if so, which one?)

Jayboy
03-18-2006, 12:54 PM
How can I find out my Tivo's network address? I networked it just fine, and it is still networked just fine. But it does not show up in my DHCP client table, and I have forgotten it. Filezilla can't find it at 192.168.1.100, which is what I thought it was.

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 12:56 PM
Ha!!!!!! Finally got in. This is what I had to do and unfortunately, there is a "but".
I had to set my TIVO to an IP outside the given range. In this case, I set it way outside. My router found it and I was able to ping successfully.

Here is the "but"

I was able to Telnet and sort of run the script. Where it gave me a fit twice is it says:

Your telnet client is adding extra line feeds, causing this script to fail.
No problem. Just re-run the script again using the "Additional
Directions for Windows XP users", or use a different telnet client with
the proper CR/LF settings. Exiting now...

Is there a work around for this or should I use another client, if so, which one?)
yep
do start/run/cmd
then type telnet
once telnet starts type unset crlf <enter>
then do open tivoipaddress

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 12:58 PM
How can I find out my Tivo's network address? I networked it just fine, and it is still networked just fine. But it does not show up in my DHCP client table, and I have forgotten it. Filezilla can't find it at 192.168.1.100, which is what I thought it was.
if it's not shwoing up in your router's cleint table, and you are using DHCP, and the tivo still has all it's adapter lights on, reboot the router and see if it comes back on the list.
if it doesn't, get a network mapping software to give you the "lay of the land' of your network.

Jayboy
03-18-2006, 01:07 PM
What if I somehow didn't use DHCP -- shouldn't I see a static IP t one of the Linksys tables?

Edited to add: I rebooted the router and the one other entry in my DHCP client table (a printer) went away. What gives?

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 01:20 PM
time to hit your router documentation.

chungsyi
03-18-2006, 01:34 PM
"Chances are you are not using the correct kernel. You MUST use the 3.1.5 kernel and put it on your zipper "tools" disk". Which kernel are you talking about?

...by the way, do you LIVE on this forum? :)

Thanks.

wrz0170
03-18-2006, 01:35 PM
Gunnyman,

GOT IT!!! :D :D :D

Thanks a million!

chungsyi
03-18-2006, 01:38 PM
Another question: When "zipping" a dual drive system, is it enough to modify the first drive only?

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 01:47 PM
"Chances are you are not using the correct kernel. You MUST use the 3.1.5 kernel and put it on your zipper "tools" disk". Which kernel are you talking about?

...by the way, do you LIVE on this forum? :)

Thanks.

do I live here,
yes seems like it
what kernel ?
you have more reading to do kimosabe

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 01:48 PM
Another question: When "zipping" a dual drive system, is it enough to modify the first drive only?
yes

chungsyi
03-18-2006, 01:57 PM
My 2 drive directivo was running fine before the zipper (confirming that the jumper settings are fine). I did use the VMLINUX_.GZ kernel (3_1.5) as described in your instructions. However I am getting the "Welcome, Powering Up..." loop.

Keep reading? ;)

Do I lose my shows if I install the virgin image from the instancake cd?

Thank you again.

-Kimosabe :D

rbautch
03-18-2006, 02:12 PM
My 2 drive directivo was running fine before the zipper (confirming that the jumper settings are fine). I did use the VMLINUX_.GZ kernel (3_1.5) as described in your instructions. However I am getting the "Welcome, Powering Up..." loop.

Keep reading? ;)

Do I lose my shows if I install the virgin image from the instancake cd?

Thank you again.

-Kimosabe :D What kind of tivo? Try running the zipper again. Also try moving the jumper from master to cable select and vice versa. A new image will indeed overwrite your shows.

FRAME57
03-18-2006, 02:18 PM
I have Directv DVR... my remote don't reconize any codes for my TV [ Sceptre X30SV-NagaIII] Can anyone please help me?

amcanzo
03-18-2006, 02:21 PM
I searched but could not find the answer...
I have a HDVR2 that I put in a new 250gb drive and ran the zipper. All is fine with that one.
I then ran it on another HDVR2 with the original 40gb drive.
It says Zipper was successful.
But when I hook it up and reboot it, The Tivo comes up as though it was never zippered. It never reboots or turns on the usb ports for the NIC.
I tried this with the image that was on it 6.2 and also loaded a virgin image from the Instantcake cd.
I have tried running the zipper more then once already
Is this drive just too small to complete the zipper process??

Thanks!

FRAME57
03-18-2006, 02:29 PM
I have Directv DVR... my remote don't reconize any codes for my TV [ Sceptre X30SV-NagaIII] Can anyone please help me?
I'm sorry [dizzy blonde] I've never done this before!

chungsyi
03-18-2006, 02:30 PM
"A new image will indeed overwrite your shows. "

Thanks for your response rbautch!

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 02:40 PM
I have Directv DVR... my remote don't reconize any codes for my TV [ Sceptre X30SV-NagaIII] Can anyone please help me?
Check your Manual
or call DTV.
I am assuming you have an R-15.
That's not what this thread is about.

Luv2DrvFst
03-18-2006, 02:47 PM
I can start TWP okay, I'm just trying to figure out why it won't stop every night like it's supposed to. Why do you suppose the wget command fails? I guess I'm confused by what the wget command is really doing. I can stop TWP with Hackman, but not with that line from the crontab. Still confused.
Bumping this for rbautch to consider...

The wget command in crontab to stop TWP doesn't stop TWP. I get this:

wget -O - "http://127.0.0.1/quit"; echo "`date` TWP stopped" >> /var/log/cronlog-main
wget: Unable to connect to remote host (127.0.0.1): Connection refused

And TWP isn't stopped. I can stop it with Hackman. Any ideas?

Jim

chungsyi
03-18-2006, 03:35 PM
I ran the zipper again... I also set both hard drives to 'cable select'... Still looping...

I wonder: I downloaded all my ISO's and files on 11/25/05. Has any of these files changed? :confused:

Thanks for your help. (It's a good thing I kept my original DirecTivo hard drive - before I upgraded to two hard drives) :eek:

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 03:43 PM
It's possible you zippered the wrong drive I suppose, but I think if it couldn't find the tivo stuff where it's expected zipper would complain and not complete.

chungsyi
03-18-2006, 03:52 PM
It's possible you zippered the wrong drive I suppose, but I think if it couldn't find the tivo stuff where it's expected zipper would complain and not complete.


The zipper process seemed to run fine. I saw no errors. Thanks! :confused:

wrz0170
03-18-2006, 09:11 PM
Alrighty, managed to do some work on the Tivo :D with photos/music, etc. Having a blast.

One thing remains. I would like to add security to my network via WEP. 128bit.
I think I know enough that when you set a WEP key, you have to make sure the other devices on the nework have the key as well. ie, set the laptop to your generated WEP key.

How do you set the Tivo utilizing a WEP key that you generate? Almost sounds like a Telnet thing ??

Thanks!

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 09:21 PM
look in the /enhancements directory on the tivo and run setSSIDwep.tcl from bash

JWThiers
03-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Gunny
I have been trying to turn on wep also and when I run setSSIDwep.tcl it finds the network fine but when it asks if I "want to change/add wireless parameters? y/n: " it will not accept any input as valid. the message I get says

"You must enter y or n. Exiting...
aborting open transaction ..."

I get this if I enter y, Y, n, N or just hit return. Any Ideas?

sgs55
03-18-2006, 10:10 PM
I'm stumped. I've Zippered 3 Dtivos (2 DVR-40's and an HDVR2) with no problems. Now, I'm trying to Zipper the Refurb DSR7000 that I just got from DTV. When I ran the Zipper (from the same disks I've used the last three times) it didn't ask me to set the IP Address. I was able to Telnet in once to run the tweak using a DCHP connection for ne of my other units. When I realized that I had never set the ip address, I rezippered (three times now) and it never asks me for the ip address. Now, I can't even get the link light on the FA120. I've spent more time reading and searching this board that I have actually working at my job for the last year [ Thanks Gunny & Russ! :) ] but I can't figure this one out. Any ideas?

Gunnyman
03-18-2006, 10:30 PM
Gunny
I have been trying to turn on wep also and when I run setSSIDwep.tcl it finds the network fine but when it asks if I "want to change/add wireless parameters? y/n: " it will not accept any input as valid. the message I get says

"You must enter y or n. Exiting...
aborting open transaction ..."

I get this if I enter y, Y, n, N or just hit return. Any Ideas?

perhaps something in your telnet client?
I just ran it with no issues
try doing the unset crlf fix and see if that fixes it

rbautch
03-18-2006, 11:02 PM
I'm stumped. I've Zippered 3 Dtivos (2 DVR-40's and an HDVR2) with no problems. Now, I'm trying to Zipper the Refurb DSR7000 that I just got from DTV. When I ran the Zipper (from the same disks I've used the last three times) it didn't ask me to set the IP Address. I was able to Telnet in once to run the tweak using a DCHP connection for ne of my other units. When I realized that I had never set the ip address, I rezippered (three times now) and it never asks me for the ip address. Now, I can't even get the link light on the FA120. I've spent more time reading and searching this board that I have actually working at my job for the last year [ Thanks Gunny & Russ! :) ] but I can't figure this one out. Any ideas? Would it make you feel better if I told you that this can't happen? ;) Unless the script completely stops because there's no kernel on the disk or no image on the drive, it will always ask for an IP address.

rbautch
03-19-2006, 01:03 AM
Bumping this for rbautch to consider...

The wget command in crontab to stop TWP doesn't stop TWP. I get this:

wget -O - "http://127.0.0.1/quit"; echo "`date` TWP stopped" >> /var/log/cronlog-main
wget: Unable to connect to remote host (127.0.0.1): Connection refused

And TWP isn't stopped. I can stop it with Hackman. Any ideas?

Jim Connection refused usually means that TWP is NOT running. I just tried the wget and it seems to work. Type ps and see what is the status code on TWP. On what port is TWP running?

JWThiers
03-19-2006, 08:04 AM
perhaps something in your telnet client?
I just ran it with no issues
try doing the unset crlf fix and see if that fixes it
I was using PuTTY and I thought I had the setup right (uncheck implicit CR in every LF). I tried it in with windows telnet (using unset crlf) and it worked (go figure). Thanks for the help.

edit Added.

Just found the correct setting in PuTTY on a different screen. On the TELNET screen uncheck "return key sends Telnet new line instead of ^m". in addition to what I had above.

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 08:19 AM
happy (again see avatar) to be of service :)

sgs55
03-19-2006, 09:28 AM
Would it make you feel better if I told you that this can't happen? ;) Unless the script completely stops because there's no kernel on the disk or no image on the drive, it will always ask for an IP address.

Since the disk works (without MRV) when I put it back in the Tivo, it has to have a kernel and image, right? (I'm booting off the same PTV disk I used on the other 3 I Zippered). Now I'm more confused than ever. I know it must be something simple I'm missing, but I can't figure out what it is. At what point in the Zipper process should it ask for the IP address? When I execute sh zipper.sh, it runs through a list of things it can't do (which seems to be normal for rerunning the Zipper based on an earlier post) and then says 1+1 records in and out...Success! But obviously it hasn't been successful. Where have I gone wrong?

robn77
03-19-2006, 09:51 AM
I just zippered my TiVo and everything was working fine until I tried to pull up my pre-zipper recordings. I was getting the Error 51 so I ran the 51killer.tcl and answered Yes to the one question about encription key.

Was I supposed to answer that question "Yes"?

My steps were:

Copied original 40GB drive to 100GB drive
Ran zipper on 100GB drive and answered yes to keeping the recordings
Ran enhancements on drive
Was able to telnet in just fine but I could not pull up any of my pre-recorded shows.

Opinions?

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 10:37 AM
pull up how?

milhouse19
03-19-2006, 10:50 AM
Just wanted to say thanks for this program - it is much easier to use then when I did my first upgrade to 4.x.

I do have two questions:

I recently upgraded a Hughes SD-DVR40 from 4.x (hacked by me a year or so ago) to 6.2 using the Zipper. I didn't care if I retained my old recordings, season passes etc. When I was upgrading, I kept getting an error when trying to install the 6.2 image using the Zipper. The error was "Restore Failed: Unknown Backup Format." I also tried using the Instantcake installer and got an error that the partitons were read only. So I took the drive out, wiped and reformatted it using FAT, put it back in, and started over. That worked. There is one problem, though. I used to get my locals (NYC) on their "local channel numbers - 2,4,5 etc." but in my guide I only see the networks in the 38x range. If I go to Channel 2, I get the message "Channel not available." I've read that these update periodically, so it might just be a matter of time - is this accurate?

On to the other question.

Now I want to upgrade another SD-DVR40 from 4.x to 6.2. But this time, I need to keep the recordings and season passes. Is this possible, and if so, whats the best way? When I tried to upgrade using the Zipper on the first drive, this is what I tried to do first but I kept getting the Restore Failure error, so I know thats not the way. Is there a way to do this using the zipper? Or can I ftp the recordings and season pass settings somewhere? Anyone have a suggestion, or better yet a guide, to doing this?

Thanks.

robn77
03-19-2006, 10:56 AM
pull up how?


Sorry... Now Playing List.

The Now Playing List is empty

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 11:00 AM
1) locals will return on their own in 24 hrs or so or you can call 1800directv and get them back by entering extension 711.
2) check dellanave.com for a very good guide to upgrading from 4.01b to 6.2
no need to zipper because hacks stay intact.

milhouse19
03-19-2006, 11:02 AM
1) locals will return on their own in 24 hrs or so or you can call 1800directv and get them back by entering extension 711.
2) check dellanave for a very good guide to upgrading from 4.01b to 6.2
no need to zipper because hacks stay intact.


Thanks!

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 11:03 AM
Sorry... Now Playing List.

The Now Playing List is empty
does it populate eventually?
is there an error message?
if no error message and it DOES populate after say 30-45 seconds, look in the troubleshooting section of the wiki in my sig for empty now playing list and apply the fixes.
If you are seeing an error 51 or hardware error, telnet in and run 51killer.tcl and reboot.

Luv2DrvFst
03-19-2006, 11:15 AM
Connection refused usually means that TWP is NOT running. I just tried the wget and it seems to work. Type ps and see what is the status code on TWP. On what port is TWP running?
RBautch, I'm running TWP on port 2025 and I added a username and password in tivoweb.cfg. From my browser I can confirm that TWP is running. On the TiVo ps shows the following:

TiVo# ps
PID Uid VmSize Stat Command
...[SNIPPED}...
268 root 464 S tnlited 23 /bin/bash -login
270 root 768 S /bin/bash
271 root 308 S tivoftpd
287 root 1160 S /bin/bash -login
292 root 3824 S /tvbin/tivosh /enhancements/endpadplus.tcl -run 1 5 -
293 root 10120 S myworld
297 root 3824 S /tvbin/tivosh /enhancements/endpadplus.tcl -run 1 5 -
298 root 3824 S /tvbin/tivosh /enhancements/endpadplus.tcl -run 1 5 -
315 root 644 S /busybox/crond
437 root 10120 D myworld
443 root 7600 S tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl
444 root 7600 S tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl
445 root 7600 S tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl
461 root 736 R ps

I tried adding the port and got this:

TiVo# wget -O - "http://127.0.0.1:2025/quit"
wget: server returned error 401: HTTP/1.0 401 Authorization Required

So maybe I'm closer but I couldn't figure out the syntax to add a UID and PW. I'm stumped, so I came up with another way to kill TWP:

pidof tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl | xargs kill

Works perfectly on my TiVo, although I'd still like to figure out why the wget command keeps failing...

Jim

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 11:18 AM
RBautch, I'm running TWP on port 2025 and I added a username and password in tivoweb.cfg. From my browser I can confirm that TWP is running. On the TiVo ps shows the following:

TiVo# ps
PID Uid VmSize Stat Command
...[SNIPPED}...
268 root 464 S tnlited 23 /bin/bash -login
270 root 768 S /bin/bash
271 root 308 S tivoftpd
287 root 1160 S /bin/bash -login
292 root 3824 S /tvbin/tivosh /enhancements/endpadplus.tcl -run 1 5 -
293 root 10120 S myworld
297 root 3824 S /tvbin/tivosh /enhancements/endpadplus.tcl -run 1 5 -
298 root 3824 S /tvbin/tivosh /enhancements/endpadplus.tcl -run 1 5 -
315 root 644 S /busybox/crond
437 root 10120 D myworld
443 root 7600 S tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl
444 root 7600 S tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl
445 root 7600 S tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl
461 root 736 R ps

I tried adding the port and got this:

TiVo# wget -O - "http://127.0.0.1:2025/quit"
wget: server returned error 401: HTTP/1.0 401 Authorization Required

So maybe I'm closer but I couldn't figure out the syntax to add a UID and PW. I'm stumped, so I came up with another way to kill TWP:

pidof tivosh /tivowebplus/httpd-tt.tcl | xargs kill

Works perfectly on my TiVo, although I'd still like to figure out why the wget command keeps failing...

Jim
try http://username@password 127.0.0.1:2025/quit

Luv2DrvFst
03-19-2006, 12:46 PM
try http://username@password 127.0.0.1:2025/quit
Nope, that doesn't do it.

TiVo# wget -O - "http://userxxxx@passxxxx 127.0.0.1:2025/quit"
wget: passxxxx 127.0.0.1: Unknown host

I've tried about every other combination I can think of and either it's some version of this error (if you put UID/PW before the ip address) or it's this error if you put it after the ip address:

wget: server returned error 401: HTTP/1.0 401 Authorization Required

Weird. Anyone know how to pass a UID and PW with the URL?

Jim

EDIT: I deleted my UID and PW from tivoweb.cfg but left in the port reference 2025. Now the wget command (with :2025 appended to the ip address) works fine. So it is just a problem of how to pass the UID and PW. But since I need those, I'm going to use my pidof/kill command until I can figure out the syntax.

Velcro
03-19-2006, 02:16 PM
I have a problem telneting into my tivo. After going through the Zipper process and telneting in I noticed that my load average keeps claiming until I log out. If I check the load average from Tivo WEB I see it between 1 and 2. When I log in with Telnet it climbs up and keeps climbing. It has gotten as high as 9 before I logged out because I coundn't do anything else anyway. While I was telneted in the only think I was doing was "uptime" to monitor the load average.

I've tried to search on this problem but I haven't found even a hint of it. So I must be doing something wrong. I'm just not sure what. I even wiped everything out and started over but ended up with the same result.

Anyone have any suggestions on what to try?
Mike

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 02:44 PM
Nope, that doesn't do it.

TiVo# wget -O - "http://userxxxx@passxxxx 127.0.0.1:2025/quit"
wget: passxxxx 127.0.0.1: Unknown host

I've tried about every other combination I can think of and either it's some version of this error (if you put UID/PW before the ip address) or it's this error if you put it after the ip address:

wget: server returned error 401: HTTP/1.0 401 Authorization Required

Weird. Anyone know how to pass a UID and PW with the URL?

Jim

EDIT: I deleted my UID and PW from tivoweb.cfg but left in the port reference 2025. Now the wget command (with :2025 appended to the ip address) works fine. So it is just a problem of how to pass the UID and PW. But since I need those, I'm going to use my pidof/kill command until I can figure out the syntax.
found the syntax, man I <heart> Google
http://username:password@hostname

wrz0170
03-19-2006, 03:27 PM
Hey Gunny Thanks for pointing out the WEP security feature :D Expanding my horizons on learning a little bit of LINUX and Networking.

So I ran the script setSSIDwep.tcl to enable WEP. It gave me a pick list of which combo of 64bit codes to choose from and I chose one at random. Rebooted the Tivo. I then when into my router to set the WEP Key as given to me by the script.

Now I cannot access Tivo :( Even tried to disable WEP off and maybe go to a different key. Still cannot access Tivo. I get a solid green light on my adapter, but no ping.

Luv2DrvFst
03-19-2006, 03:42 PM
found the syntax, man I <heart> Google
http://username:password@hostname
That did it! Could have sworn I tried that one. Thanks Gunny!
(btw, glad to see your avatar smiling again)

Luv2DrvFst
03-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Okay, to summarize what I've learned today... if you've made changes in tivoweb.cfg to the default port that TWP listens on or added a UID and PW, you need to make a change in the crontab file (root). Change this line:

14 9 * * * wget -O - "http://127.0.0.1/quit"; echo "`date` TWP stopped" >> /var/log/cronlog-main

To this:

14 9 * * * wget -O - "http://username:yourpw@127.0.0.1:newport/quit"; echo "`date` TWP stopped" >> /var/log/cronlog-main

Where obviously username, yourpw and newport are whatever you made them. And now TWP will stop as it is supposed to every night.

Thanks Gunny! Thanks RBautch!

JWThiers
03-19-2006, 04:16 PM
found the syntax, man I <heart> Google
http://username:password@hostname
I hope that is PASSword not ***word :eek:

robn77
03-19-2006, 04:24 PM
does it populate eventually?
is there an error message?
if no error message and it DOES populate after say 30-45 seconds, look in the troubleshooting section of the wiki in my sig for empty now playing list and apply the fixes.
If you are seeing an error 51 or hardware error, telnet in and run 51killer.tcl and reboot.

Do you have to run the 51killer.tcl before you run the tweak.sh script? I did not and when I go to the Now Playing screen, I get the Error 51. I did not notice if I had that error before I ran the tweak.sh

Will I see the shows in the Now Playing after I run the 51killer.tcl now or do I need to start the process over?

When I run the 51killer.tcl this is the message that comes up in the script.

"WARNING: Because the key generated for this nag is also used as part of the
encryption process for tystreams, any encrypted (scrambled) streams that you
currently have on the disk will be rendered useless!

Do you want to continue? (type yes or no):"

This makes it sound like it will clear out the Now Playing list.


Thanks.

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 04:43 PM
Do you have to run the 51killer.tcl before you run the tweak.sh script? I did not and when I go to the Now Playing screen, I get the Error 51. I did not notice if I had that error before I ran the tweak.sh

Will I see the shows in the Now Playing after I run the 51killer.tcl now or do I need to start the process over?

When I run the 51killer.tcl this is the message that comes up in the script.

"WARNING: Because the key generated for this nag is also used as part of the
encryption process for tystreams, any encrypted (scrambled) streams that you
currently have on the disk will be rendered useless!

Do you want to continue? (type yes or no):"

This makes it sound like it will clear out the Now Playing list.


Thanks.
I'm a bit confused because if all you did was zipper an existing tivo HD with shows on it you shouldn't have seen an error 51 at all. The error simply means the encryption key on teh HD and the one in the Tivo Firmware no longer match.

If you've moved this zippered drive to another Tivo, then the pre-zippered shows are indeed gone.
There is NO way to watch shows recorded pre-zipper on any tivo besides the one they were recorded on.

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 04:43 PM
Hey Gunny Thanks for pointing out the WEP security feature :D Expanding my horizons on learning a little bit of LINUX and Networking.

So I ran the script setSSIDwep.tcl to enable WEP. It gave me a pick list of which combo of 64bit codes to choose from and I chose one at random. Rebooted the Tivo. I then when into my router to set the WEP Key as given to me by the script.

Now I cannot access Tivo :( Even tried to disable WEP off and maybe go to a different key. Still cannot access Tivo. I get a solid green light on my adapter, but no ping.

Paging Rbautch
white courtesy phone please.

robn77
03-19-2006, 04:51 PM
I'm a bit confused because if all you did was zipper an existing tivo HD with shows on it you shouldn't have seen an error 51 at all. The error simply means the encryption key on teh HD and the one in the Tivo Firmware no longer match.

If you've moved this zippered drive to another Tivo, then the pre-zippered shows are indeed gone.
There is NO way to watch shows recorded pre-zipper on any tivo besides the one they were recorded on.


OK. Step by step what I did.

1. Copied 40GB Drive to 100GB drive using WeaKnees script (On Boot Floppy)
mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hda | mfsrestore -s 127 -4 r -xzpi - /dev/hdb

2. Placed new drive into Tivo to verify that it still worked.

3. Ran Zipper script with new 6.2 image (probably did not have to do this as I already had 6.2 correct?)

4. Ran tweak.sh

My problem is with step three correct? I thought that we needed the image to allow the hacks or was that assumption incorrect?

JWThiers
03-19-2006, 04:57 PM
Gunny
IF all I wanted was MRV/HMO and wireless, not TWP and all the other hacks, could I use the zipper and just not run tweak.sh? Its my wifes box and she would like MRV but not the rest.

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 05:00 PM
best thing to do then is zipper the telnet in and run superpatch and setmrv name tcl scripts from /enhancements

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 05:01 PM
OK. Step by step what I did.

1. Copied 40GB Drive to 100GB drive using WeaKnees script (On Boot Floppy)
mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hda | mfsrestore -s 127 -4 r -xzpi - /dev/hdb

2. Placed new drive into Tivo to verify that it still worked.

3. Ran Zipper script with new 6.2 image (probably did not have to do this as I already had 6.2 correct?)

4. Ran tweak.sh

My problem is with step three correct? I thought that we needed the image to allow the hacks or was that assumption incorrect?
right image is NOT necessary (too late now eh) if you already HAVE 6.2
if you re-imaged the drive shows are gone.

JWThiers
03-19-2006, 05:04 PM
best thing to do then is zipper the telnet in and run superpatch and setmrv name tcl scripts from /enhancements
Thanks

wrz0170
03-19-2006, 05:14 PM
Hey Gunny Thanks for pointing out the WEP security feature :D Expanding my horizons on learning a little bit of LINUX and Networking.

So I ran the script setSSIDwep.tcl to enable WEP. It gave me a pick list of which combo of 64bit codes to choose from and I chose one at random. Rebooted the Tivo. I then when into my router to set the WEP Key as given to me by the script.

Now I cannot access Tivo :( Even tried to disable WEP off and maybe go to a different key. Still cannot access Tivo. I get a solid green light on my adapter, but no ping.

Well, to further the plot. My new laptop would not work under 64bit WEP. I kept getting a "limited connectivity error". On a whim, I tried 128bit encryption and it worked fine with a generated key through my router :confused:

However, Tivo is not there even with 64bit. Is there a script for 128 bit?

Any other solutions to secure my network and have TIVO?

Thanks!!!

robn77
03-19-2006, 05:21 PM
right image is NOT necessary (too late now eh) if you already HAVE 6.2
if you re-imaged the drive shows are gone.

Never work on the original... Always backup and work on the copy so I'm copying for the third time and then I will re-zipper without the image.

Thanks for your help!

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 06:12 PM
Well, to further the plot. My new laptop would not work under 64bit WEP. I kept getting a "limited connectivity error". On a whim, I tried 128bit encryption and it worked fine with a generated key through my router :confused:

However, Tivo is not there even with 64bit. Is there a script for 128 bit?

Any other solutions to secure my network and have TIVO?

Thanks!!!
there is no 128 bit encryption.
As for how to secure your network, don't broadcast SSID and only allow approved MAC addresses to connect.

trainman
03-19-2006, 06:38 PM
Another satisfied Zipper customer here. Only wish I had gotten around to doing it sooner. Thanks! :D

Gunnyman
03-19-2006, 06:40 PM
Glad it went well Jim!

rbautch
03-19-2006, 07:17 PM
Okay, to summarize what I've learned today... if you've made changes in tivoweb.cfg to the default port that TWP listens on or added a UID and PW, you need to make a change in the crontab file (root). Change this line:

14 9 * * * wget -O - "http://127.0.0.1/quit"; echo "`date` TWP stopped" >> /var/log/cronlog-main

To this:

14 9 * * * wget -O - "http://username:yourpw@127.0.0.1:newport/quit"; echo "`date` TWP stopped" >> /var/log/cronlog-main

Where obviously username, yourpw and newport are whatever you made them. And now TWP will stop as it is supposed to every night.

Thanks Gunny! Thanks RBautch! It would be an interesting new feature for the main script to prompt you for a username/password/port, then set up the tivoweb.cfg file, and then append the appropriate command to the crontab. I'll add this to the hopper.

6stringbass
03-20-2006, 12:16 AM
Would it make you feel better if I told you that this can't happen? ;) Unless the script completely stops because there's no kernel on the disk or no image on the drive, it will always ask for an IP address.


I zippered one of my Tivo's today. Set the IP address as the same as my other Tivo. Uninstalled tweak then ran it again. It did not ask for an ip address when reinstalling. I uninstalled and reinstalled two more times (to clear up finger problems when entering data) and at no time did it ask for an ip address other than the very first time. I also had to uninstall and reinstall on my other Tivo and it also did not ask on subsequent installs. I need to change the ip to another value. I've tried changing it in TWP and when it reboots it is at the newly entered value but at the next reboot it returns to the original setting. How can I change it so that it stays?

bugs99
03-20-2006, 01:46 AM
I have a Linksys network attached storage unit (NSLU2) and I store my music and pictures on it. Can I use HMO with this factory NSLU2?

I did some web search and I read about unslung but the posting is about 2 years old and I don't know if it is still current.

MATT1981M
03-20-2006, 04:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by owlhooter
So when running the Zipper on an HR10-250 should it work with any Wired USB NIC that works on 6.2? Or is the list smaller? I just Ran the Zipper, and for some reason it doesn't seem like networking is working at all, the light on the USB adapter doesn't even come on like it does in my HDVR2 with 6.2. It's a Hawking HUF11 if that makes any difference.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

It's smaller. See here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3687099#post3687099
i have a dumb question.... i have a DVR40 and a DSR704.... will the Hawking UF100 work.... i know you said the list was smaller... but is that specific to the HR10-250 model?????

and also.... i am new with linux... is it possible to change the IP address once zippered and if so can you also change settings from wireless to wired adapter or the reverse??? or do you have to run the zipper again..... and how can you display the IP for the tivo at the bash prompt....

I also would like to know if it is possible to use a Serial PPP cable to transfer recordings to a PC... i messed up on one of my tivo's and have to get my recordings off before i start with a new image and i dont have my USB adapters yet... they are on their way via UPS...

MATT1981M
03-20-2006, 04:35 AM
i was trying to setup tivowebplus but got this error when i tried run the "tivoweb console" command....

bash-2.02# tivoweb console
bash-2.02# TivoWebPlus Project - v1.2.1
The program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This program is licensed under the GPL.
See the 'copyright' and 'README' files for copyright and credit information.
child process exited abnormally
while executing
"exec ifconfig | grep "inet addr" | grep -v "127.0.0.1""
(file ".//httpd-tt.tcl" line 798)

what does this mean??????

tbeckner
03-20-2006, 05:00 AM
I zippered one of my Tivo's today. Set the IP address as the same as my other Tivo. Uninstalled tweak then ran it again. It did not ask for an ip address when reinstalling. I uninstalled and reinstalled two more times (to clear up finger problems when entering data) and at no time did it ask for an ip address other than the very first time. I also had to uninstall and reinstall on my other Tivo and it also did not ask on subsequent installs. I need to change the ip to another value. I've tried changing it in TWP and when it reboots it is at the newly entered value but at the next reboot it returns to the original setting. How can I change it so that it stays?The way I changed my static IP Address was through TWP, but I set changed it to DHCP first and reboot. After the reboot I used TWP to set new static IP Address and it has worked perfect.

Gunnyman
03-20-2006, 06:49 AM
I have a Linksys network attached storage unit (NSLU2) and I store my music and pictures on it. Can I use HMO with this factory NSLU2?

I did some web search and I read about unslung but the posting is about 2 years old and I don't know if it is still current.
as long as it's mapped with a drive letter in windows then yes.

Jayboy
03-20-2006, 07:35 AM
Another satisfied Zipper customer. I was the one having trouble finding my Tivo's IP address. Found it.

Another problem. Filezilla connects to my Tivo, but shows no directory structure, just a root /. If I click on that, it says no directory listing (or something like that). I have to find the var directory to FTP things into. Any ideas?

JWThiers
03-20-2006, 08:12 AM
However, Tivo is not there even with 64bit. Is there a script for 128 bit?

Any other solutions to secure my network and have TIVO?

Thanks!!!
there is no 128 bit encryption.
As for how to secure your network, don't broadcast SSID and only allow approved MAC addresses to connect.
If you really want security you either need WPA (which is not supported), a wired system instead of wireless, or a couple of more routers to segment your home network to have a node that is WEP (less secure) and another node that is wired or WPA (more secure). The precautions that Gunny gives will stop a casual hacker, but if one is really intent on getting in on a WEP encrypted he will do it even if you turn off SSID Broadcasting and use MAC filtering.

That said it is better than nothing.

dfk70
03-20-2006, 08:47 AM
Another satisfied Zipper customer. I was the one having trouble finding my Tivo's IP address. Found it.

Another problem. Filezilla connects to my Tivo, but shows no directory structure, just a root /. If I click on that, it says no directory listing (or something like that). I have to find the var directory to FTP things into. Any ideas?

You might need to change the amount of time Filezilla waits for a connection. I boosted mine to 60 seconds and haven't had any problems since.

dkggpeters
03-20-2006, 12:32 PM
I give the Zipper 5 stars and could not be any happier and the hack went quickly and smooth as silk. The only problem I had was with my cd-rom drive on an old computer which went out and had to replace with a new cheap one. Once I resolved that, the installation went quick and without a hitch.

I had 2 other hacked dtivos which I purchased a couple of months ago and updated my existing box. I plan on getting a couple more and with the Zipper, getting them hacked will be a piece of cake.

Thanks.

Dave

wrz0170
03-20-2006, 12:46 PM
If you really want security you either need WPA (which is not supported), a wired system instead of wireless, or a couple of more routers to segment your home network to have a node that is WEP (less secure) and another node that is wired or WPA (more secure). The precautions that Gunny gives will stop a casual hacker, but if one is really intent on getting in on a WEP encrypted he will do it even if you turn off SSID Broadcasting and use MAC filtering.

That said it is better than nothing.

Thanks! I think I will try the disable SSID Broadcasting and MAC filtering. Since there are only two reomote items on the network, should be easily accomplished.

I think I may have to take out the drive and re-zipper. After enabling WEP with the script, I cannot Telnet back in.

Aside from my own inept ways on networking, it works beautifully and I'm another satisfied customer :D

rbautch
03-20-2006, 04:00 PM
i have a dumb question.... i have a DVR40 and a DSR704.... will the Hawking UF100 work.... i know you said the list was smaller... but is that specific to the HR10-250 model?????

and also.... i am new with linux... is it possible to change the IP address once zippered and if so can you also change settings from wireless to wired adapter or the reverse??? or do you have to run the zipper again..... and how can you display the IP for the tivo at the bash prompt....

I also would like to know if it is possible to use a Serial PPP cable to transfer recordings to a PC... i messed up on one of my tivo's and have to get my recordings off before i start with a new image and i dont have my USB adapters yet... they are on their way via UPS...Yes, only specific to HR10-250. I've had limited success with the TWP network module for changing IP information. A foolproof way is to run the /enhancements/net-launch.sh script.

No go on the serial ppp. If you want to fix a fubared tivo without much thinking involved, use the dd command to copy the entire filesystem from a known good tivo to the bad one. Put the drives from both in a PC and use: dd if=/dev/hda4 of=/dev/hdb4...adjusting for your drive position and root filesystem of course. The only way to get shows off is to hack the tivo and use one of the extraction methods that cannot be discussed here.

rbautch
03-20-2006, 04:08 PM
I zippered one of my Tivo's today. Set the IP address as the same as my other Tivo. Uninstalled tweak then ran it again. It did not ask for an ip address when reinstalling. I uninstalled and reinstalled two more times (to clear up finger problems when entering data) and at no time did it ask for an ip address other than the very first time. I also had to uninstall and reinstall on my other Tivo and it also did not ask on subsequent installs. I need to change the ip to another value. I've tried changing it in TWP and when it reboots it is at the newly entered value but at the next reboot it returns to the original setting. How can I change it so that it stays?The Zipper asks you for your IP address, tweak.sh does not. Run /enhancements/net-launch.sh to set the new IP info. Also edit your author file to remove the commands that set your IP params there. These lines say something like "one time network setup, may be removed". Newer versions of the enhancement script automatically remove this line.

bugs99
03-20-2006, 05:19 PM
as long as it's mapped with a drive letter in windows then yes.

Sorry, I should have been more clear.

I want to access the mp3 files stored on the NSLU2 from my zippered HDVR2.
I believe a JavaHMO needs to be installed/setup on the NSLU2 and that is what I'm asking about, is the unslung + JavaHMO still valid today? Will it work with a zippered HDVR2?

P.S. I'm able to access the MP3 files stored on my XP desktop PC from my HDVR2. This is accomplished via Tivo Desktop 1.3 (not the latest Tivo Desktop).

Gunnyman
03-20-2006, 05:49 PM
javahmo is the same When you tell it where your music is, point it to share.
Javahmo can be running on any computer in your network.

ja73d
03-21-2006, 12:27 PM
Additional Instructions for Windows XP SP2 Users

If you use the telnet client built in to Window XP Service Pack 2, you must follow these
instructions to open your telnet session, otherwise an extra carriage return could be added,
interfering with the interactive portions of the scripts. If you have Service Pack 1, you
don't need these addtional steps.

1. Start--->Run, type in "cmd" the return
2. Type in "telnet" then return
3. Type in "unset crlf" then return
4. To connect to your Tivo, type "o xx.xx.xx.xx" where the x's are your Tivo's IP address.
If you hold down the ctrl key then hit enter after commands it wont add an extra carriage return using windows xp sp2.

Markman07
03-21-2006, 12:37 PM
Still just as easy to create a telnet INI file and put it in your C:\windows\system32.

1. Open Notepad.
2. enter "unset crlf" without the quotes.
3. Save File as Telnet.Ini to your C:\windows\system32 (or wherever your system32 folder is).
4. Never worry about using CTRL key or setting it up everytime you use Telnet.

SteelersFan
03-21-2006, 12:47 PM
Still just as easy to create a telnet INI file and put it in your C:\windows\system32.

1. Open Notepad.
2. enter "unset crlf" without the quotes.
3. Save File as Telnet.Ini to your C:\windows\system32 (or wherever your system32 folder is).
4. Never worry about using CTRL key or setting it up everytime you use Telnet.
I've tried this with no luck. :confused:

BTW, You can type "u" instead of unset.

6stringbass
03-21-2006, 04:22 PM
The way I changed my static IP Address was through TWP, but I set changed it to DHCP first and reboot. After the reboot I used TWP to set new static IP Address and it has worked perfect.


I tried using TWP but didn't try setting it to DHCP first. I've since gotten it to change and stay though. Thanks for the advice.

MATT1981M
03-21-2006, 04:29 PM
run the uninstall script (telnet in then:
cd /hacks
sh tweak_uninstall.sh).

get tweak.sh from tweak.zip file: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showpost.php?t=250680&p=3075079

ftp it over to the tivo in any folder and run it from where you put it once its on the tivo.


EDIT:

link for tweak.sh has become dead, fixed.
i tried this but when i try to run the tweak.sh it keeps trying to connect to dwnld the new version.... i need to install the usb2.0 drivers to get connected on this tivo and cant install them without using the tweak.sh....

i know this is probably somewhere in the 150+ pages of this forum but how do i get a internet connected xp machine to allow the tivo to connect to the internet via serial ppp.... i can get a bash prompt but cant for the life of me get it to make test calls and i have followed those steps to the T and have even tried on 2 tivos.....i want to be able to get my season pass backups off of the tivo via ftp and dont know the commands to send the files via telnet so i may be making this harder than it is....

****EDIT****...i found out from Rbautch that all i needed to do was zmodem the rbautch_files.tgz to the same directory as the tweak.sh and it wont need to connect to the internet... worked like a charm...

6stringbass
03-21-2006, 04:30 PM
The Zipper asks you for your IP address, tweak.sh does not. Run /enhancements/net-launch.sh to set the new IP info. Also edit your author file to remove the commands that set your IP params there. These lines say something like "one time network setup, may be removed". Newer versions of the enhancement script automatically remove this line.


You are absolutely correct sir. I tried what you recommended but upon reboot I couldn't telnet or get into TWP. Yanked the drive, ran it through the Zipper, set the ip's there and then could telnet but TWP wouldn't connect. So I uninstalled and reinstalled tweak and all is well it the new world. I'm learning more about this and I thank you for that. Feels strange as I'm pretty good with Windoz but working in Linux is a strange place but it's getting better. All the time.

qubit
03-21-2006, 05:26 PM
ok I'm confused on the image part. I have a dying 40GB drive in an HDVR2. IF spinrite gets it up again so I can run mfsbackup. Then how do I use this script with mfs restore onto a new 200GB disk? The instructions just seem to follow if you have bought an image from ptv...

Edit: Been reading... maybe I can just follow the procedure for upgrade an hdd... so run mfsbackup on 40GB, run mfsrestore on 200GB, then run through the zipper as if I don't need an image cause its already on disk?

Edit again: As an aside, last time I messed with modding a tivo was back when just series 1 was out. I used things like BlessTiVo and Kazymyr Boot cd or dylans boot disk, etc. None of this stuff around now? Basically its MFS Tools 2 for hdd upgrade and then Zipper to get other hacks?

Gunnyman
03-21-2006, 06:03 PM
The zipper doens't do anything with an image except restore a new one to an empty drive. You are correct in thinking you want to do mfsrestore on your own 1st.

tall1
03-21-2006, 06:30 PM
I think I know the answer to this already but just to confirm, is there any reason to backup up my Tivo drive pre-zipper if I own an instantcake image?

MATT1981M
03-21-2006, 06:47 PM
I think I know the answer to this already but just to confirm, is there any reason to backup up my Tivo drive pre-zipper if I own an instantcake image?
i think this would be a good idea in case you need to restore the image to an un-hacked image... For whatever reason.... After all.... The image i got for the DVR40 was for the DSR7000 according to the system info screen...

kimsan
03-21-2006, 08:25 PM
Gunny, Russ or anybody who knows,

What do I need to run to stream video to a PC? Names only are fine as I know where to look, but dummy guides are welcome :)

And just to re-emphasize: Thanks for all the hard work and tips that made all this such an easy process!

Gunnyman
03-21-2006, 08:28 PM
tyshow
install it
then edit tivoweb.cfg
change the showinks line to true
restart twp

Draven X. Byrne
03-22-2006, 12:03 AM
I was able to zipper my HR10-250, my 2 HDVR's and my RCA from the DVR4ME deal.

Just wanted to show appreciation for the 1.5 hours it took to hack 4 TiVo's and have them work perfectly out of the gate.

Thanks to Gunny & RBautch. . . .

Russ - anytime you want a beer I'll let you into my datacenter & we'll crack open a couple near the Unix section of servers :D

DXB

kimsan
03-22-2006, 06:49 AM
tyshow
install it
then edit tivoweb.cfg
change the showinks line to true
restart twp

Thanks Gunny.

I'll dig into the details and source files today :)

Draven X. Byrne
03-22-2006, 01:36 PM
Quick ? - is there a wireless adapter that people have found to be really good to use with the zipper?

I searched and saw the listing that the wiki points you to but has one stood above the rest in terms of usuage. It also would appear G adapters don't work period - as in they don't work with G spped or not at all?

Thanks in advance . . .

DXB

trainman
03-22-2006, 02:13 PM
Quick ? - is there a wireless adapter that people have found to be really good to use with the zipper?

The Linksys WUSB11 version 2.6 is working great for me, although I have no idea how easy they are to find these days -- I bought it whenever the first software version with Music & Photos came out (early 2003?), back when I had a Series 2 standalone.

rbautch
03-22-2006, 05:28 PM
I was able to zipper my HR10-250, my 2 HDVR's and my RCA from the DVR4ME deal.

Just wanted to show appreciation for the 1.5 hours it took to hack 4 TiVo's and have them work perfectly out of the gate.

Thanks to Gunny & RBautch. . . .

Russ - anytime you want a beer I'll let you into my datacenter & we'll crack open a couple near the Unix section of servers :D

DXBOooh...servers and beer. My favorites!

gcrew
03-22-2006, 09:04 PM
does running the zipper on a virgin drive automatically disable encryption, or do I have to run this command

"echo -ne "\x3C\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=6984684"

I am a little confused as to wether to run this or not, I thought encryption was disabled when you zipper the drive automatcally.

sandpj
03-22-2006, 09:29 PM
Encryption should be disabled by zipper. Try typing "ciphercheck" at bash and it will give you current encryption status.

gcrew
03-23-2006, 12:02 AM
I used the ciphercheck command as you stated, and it says "TyStream encryption is currently enabled". I am assuming that means encryption is still active. How can I disable it? When I ran Zipper it was on a virgin drive, I am keeping my orginal drive as a backup.

shortkud
03-23-2006, 05:39 AM
The zipper doens't do anything with an image except restore a new one to an empty drive. You are correct in thinking you want to do mfsrestore on your own 1st.

Im not sure if this applys to me but maybe it does. I have an existing 40gb drive that was in my tivo i want to start over. So i bought the instant cake image for my drive and burned the Tools CD as the guide told me. So i booted with the boot disk i also bought and then ran the zipper, the zipper said it found an image do i want to restore it now. i said yes then it said "Restore failed: Backup target not large enough for entire backup by itself." Im not looking to "backup" anything i just simply want to wipe this drive, apply the image and then hack it with the zipper :). So what should i do to "wipe" the drive.

bengalfreak
03-23-2006, 06:30 AM
Im not sure if this applys to me but maybe it does. I have an existing 40gb drive that was in my tivo i want to start over. So i bought the instant cake image for my drive and burned the Tools CD as the guide told me. So i booted with the boot disk i also bought and then ran the zipper, the zipper said it found an image do i want to restore it now. i said yes then it said "Restore failed: Backup target not large enough for entire backup by itself." Im not looking to "backup" anything i just simply want to wipe this drive, apply the image and then hack it with the zipper :). So what should i do to "wipe" the drive.

Applying the image to a drive is the same thing as restoring a previously made backup. You're just restoring a backup image created by PTV (instant cake) instead of one created yourself.

Now for the bad news. When you restore an image, you almost always have to restore to a larger hard drive than your original size, unless you are using a backup created on the exact same drive. The reason being is that there are differences in sizes among 40GB drives. One might be exactly 40GB, the next might be 40.05 GB, etc. Since the zipper restores an image file, it is writing to the entire drive and often a 40GB backup of a particular drive will not fit on a different brand or even the same brand but a different model no. of drive.

shortkud
03-23-2006, 06:57 AM
Well i assumed it is not fitting on the drive simply because it already has an image on there. Im not sure if the zipper wipes the drive befor applying the image but maybe thats what i need to do.

Gunnyman
03-23-2006, 07:09 AM
read bengal's answer, you need a larger HD.

shortkud
03-23-2006, 07:14 AM
What about a different 40gb hard drive, will that work or must it be larger.

Gunnyman
03-23-2006, 08:00 AM
that's the point you won't know til you try.
Hard Drives are cheap.

shortkud
03-23-2006, 08:08 AM
ok :) thanks for the help gunny and bengalfreak sorry to be a tad annoying :P

edit: rats this other 40gb isnt big enough either :( i dont get it..its only like a 200mb image

double edit: this 80gb from my old r10 did the job :P

triple edit: :( im getting a "Restore Failed: Decompression error..64%) (1312.98% compression)"

MATT1981M
03-23-2006, 11:41 AM
wipe any finger prints off the CD....reboot and try again..... i had the same thing happen at 12.7%... if that doesnt work try re-burning the disk... make sure it was joliet mode.....and to answer the prev question... yes the image was only 200 or so mb on the disk....but that is compressed....the actual tivo program is appx 1453 mb.... i think.... but then it is expecting to format other partitions on the drive as well... if there is not enough room on the drive for those other partitions, even though the partitions are empty, it will fail.

pendragn
03-23-2006, 11:58 AM
ok :) thanks for the help gunny and bengalfreak sorry to be a tad annoying :P

edit: rats this other 40gb isnt big enough either :( i dont get it..its only like a 200mb image

double edit: this 80gb from my old r10 did the job :P

triple edit: :( im getting a "Restore Failed: Decompression error..64%) (1312.98% compression)"
I had some crazy intermittant problems when I was zippering some machines. Turns out the CD drive in the PC I was using was failing. Might be worth your time to try a different one.

tk

rbautch
03-23-2006, 12:38 PM
I used the ciphercheck command as you stated, and it says "TyStream encryption is currently enabled". I am assuming that means encryption is still active. How can I disable it? When I ran Zipper it was on a virgin drive, I am keeping my orginal drive as a backup.What tivo/software do you have. The enhancement script disables the encryption, unless you have an HR10-250 and you're using an old version of its software. If that's the case, you can apply the patch manually, but you better have the correct patch or you'll fubar your tivo.

llurkin
03-23-2006, 01:54 PM
If you are not dismayed by the system information mis-describing your Tivo,( calling it a 7000 etc ) you can look for 62small.mfs and use it on any drive larger than 5 gig.

It is a very small edition of 6.2 OS and will be fine. Then run the Zipper on that image.

pendragn
03-23-2006, 02:05 PM
If you are not dismayed by the system information mis-describing your Tivo,( calling it a 7000 etc ) you can look for 62small.mfs and use it on any drive larger than 5 gig.

It is a very small edition of 6.2 OS and will be fine. Then run the Zipper on that image.
If it's the same backup that I downloaded months ago it's one rev behind. So I restore the 62small.mfs, force a call to update it, then I Zipper.

tk

llurkin
03-23-2006, 02:14 PM
Yes.. I forgot about the call.

Phe0nix
03-23-2006, 03:27 PM
Just completed the Zipper tutorial. I used an Instantcake image ( 6.2 ) and added it to the tools cd for zipper. When prompted i installed it unmounted cdrom and restarted. I received a success message at the end of the zipper install. My Tivo ( Phillips DSR 7000 ) boots up fine and i can watch tv but i don't see anything different except i can recorde 105 hours now rather than the orignal 35. I don't see a lisitng on Tivo for adding Pictures etc. I can't ftp into the unit. I did setup my
a static ip and the ip for my router. Is there a particular port i connect to my Tivo with and is there a login and password. Do i need to connect via ftp and install hacks. I don't see the hack manager either. My tivo shipped with 3.1.1c but i recently received the 6.2 update and my new drive along with the instantcake image and the zippers "tool cd" seem no different . What have i done wrong if anything. All went according to the Zipper installation tutorial and went perfectly.


Confused!

pendragn
03-23-2006, 03:30 PM
Just completed the Zipper tutorial. I used an Instantcake image ( 6.2 ) and added it to the tools cd for zipper. When prompted i installed it unmounted cdrom and restarted. I received a success message at the end of the zipper install. My Tivo ( Phillips DSR 7000 ) boots up fine and i can watch tv but i don't see anything different except i can recorde 105 hours now rather than the orignal 35. I don't see a lisitng on Tivo for adding Pictures etc. I can't ftp into the unit. I did setup my
a static ip and the ip for my router. Is there a particular port i connect to my Tivo with and is there a login and password. Do i need to connect via ftp and install hacks. I don't see the hack manager either. My tivo shipped with 3.1.1c but i recently received the 6.2 update and my new drive along with the instantcake image and the zippers "tool cd" seem no different . What have i done wrong if anything. All went according to the Zipper installation tutorial and went perfectly.


Confused!
After you run the zipper you need to telnet in and run tweak.sh. Have you done that?

tk

bengalfreak
03-23-2006, 05:46 PM
If it's the same backup that I downloaded months ago it's one rev behind. So I restore the 62small.mfs, force a call to update it, then I Zipper.

tk


Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. There has been a software update since 62small.mfs was issued? I thought 6.2 was the current software version. Exactly what has changed since then? all of my DTivos are currently running the 62 small image.

shortkud
03-23-2006, 06:37 PM
glad to report i tried it in an intel system as i read some had problems with AMD machines and it worked fine on the 80gb.

bben5092
03-23-2006, 06:50 PM
I also just completed the Zipper tutorial. I used an Instantcake image ( 6.2 ) on a virgin 200 GB drive. I ran the Zipper and successfully expanded my drive. I did it on a PC at work since I have all Macs at home. I replaced the drive in my Directivo and now have 177 hr drive. I have an IP set for the tivo and the router. I know I need to run the tweak.sh script in order to install the enhancements. I tried to set up a wireless connection with a Tivo branded wireless adaptor that I have been using successfully with a Humax Dvd/Series 2 tivo. The adaptor lights up, but I can't see the tivo on my network. Is it possible to telnet into the tivo to run the tweak script with my Mac OS 10.4 or will I need to do it with a PC. I'm thrilled that I"ve made it this far by just following the instructions. Almost there. The info on this forum has been great. If I can get over this last hurdle I can Zipper my other 2 tivos.

pendragn
03-23-2006, 06:51 PM
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. There has been a software update since 62small.mfs was issued? I thought 6.2 was the current software version. Exactly what has changed since then? all of my DTivos are currently running the 62 small image.
My systems are all running 6.2-01-2-151 now. The version of 62small.mfs I have is a version of 6.2 that is earlier than that. I don't know the exact number, but it's older.

tk

swizzlest
03-23-2006, 07:42 PM
I'm wondering if I can thread hijack a bit here....I've zippered the tivo and I'm trying to get it up and running on my lan.

I've got a router in the room above the room with my tivo. Since I can't do WPA with the tivo, I ran a line down through the ceiling.

Now, I'm having trouble connecting the router, and the 5-port ethernet hub I've got down by the tivo....

I've got a crossover cable.

I guess I'm network stupid. I can't find a combination that seems to work.....is anyone network knowledgeable here?

Sorry, not really about the Zipper, I know....

But you guys rock. :)

mulscully
03-23-2006, 07:51 PM
The enhancement scripts added alot of stuff, alias, etc. it there a guide for using everything it installed, (ex listing for the alias, and mrv speed stuff) when you do the zipper it goes by but it would be nice to have a print up of all of it...

Gunnyman
03-23-2006, 08:19 PM
the readme that came with the enhance script explains it all
this file is also in the wiki linked in my sig

JWThiers
03-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Now, I'm having trouble connecting the router, and the 5-port ethernet hub I've got down by the tivo....

I've got a crossover cable.

I guess I'm network stupid. I can't find a combination that seems to work.....is anyone network knowledgeable here?
If you have a router, you do NOT need a crossover cable. Try again with a regular ethernet cable.

swizzlest
03-23-2006, 09:14 PM
If you have a router, you do NOT need a crossover cable. Try again with a regular ethernet cable.

That was it.

Chopped off the crossover end, put a regular plug on it, and good to go.

Thanks!

Now....I bought a USB 2.0 ethernet adapter...but USB 2.0 isn't enabled until after I run the enhancements by telnetting into the box over my ethernet connec--wait....

who thought this out?

Is my only option to go buy a USB 1.0 adapter? It was hard enough tryint to find a wired usb adapater as it was! :)

Gunnyman
03-23-2006, 09:23 PM
which adapter?
If it's a supported one it falls back to 1.1 just fine. I know the FA120's do.
Plus you can run the script over serial connection too.

swizzlest
03-23-2006, 09:30 PM
sweet....how do I serial connect in? I got one of them serial cables...do I just hook it up and telnet?

mike9805
03-23-2006, 09:40 PM
:confused: I recently hacked a RCA DRR40 using the zipper, all was well for about 2 weeks then all hacks quit working except to telnet..What went wrong??

mike9805
03-23-2006, 09:41 PM
SORRY It is a RCA DVR40

swizzlest
03-23-2006, 09:46 PM
the adapter i'm using is a linksys usb200m....

JWThiers
03-23-2006, 09:58 PM
I finally got around to zippering my DSR708 last week and am having fun(?) with my Tivo. Tried out Tivo server, TyTools, NCIDpop with mixed results probably user errors but that is another thread.

Anyway I finally got around to locking down security as tight as I can on wireless and ran ran setSSIDwep.tcl everything seemed fine had WEP up and running for about a day. I next wanted to try out remote accessing TWP over the internet. Went to DynDNS set up an account to track my home IP. Changed the port in the tivoweb.cfg file (that was another bit of research to edit the file). Setup port forwarding on my router and then in TWP I needed to restart TWP to get the changes to take effect. Rather than going out to my tivo and restarting in TWP I clicked on Restart the Quick reload. Was able to then access TWP locally using the new port and also using the dyndns account from my home. Sweet, but the acid test was today when I tried to access from work.

By the way when you do a quick reload of TWP HackMan become available. Don't know if that was a codding hole or not just FYI.

Anyway tried to access TWP from work but no luck darn. But wait I work for the govt and figure they might do some port blocking on our intranet, so I give my father a call and have him try, still no luck, oh well I'll troubleshoot when I get home.

Long story short, wireless connection lost and would only come back after a few restarts of the tivo, and then only without WEP. Reran setSSIDwep with no luck. It says it runs OK and when you restart the light on my USB wireless blinks but does not connect and require another restart and turning off WEP. ANY Ideas?

Gunnyman
03-23-2006, 10:42 PM
sweet....how do I serial connect in? I got one of them serial cables...do I just hook it up and telnet?
hook it up with a gender changer then yeah :)

rbautch
03-23-2006, 10:55 PM
I finally got around to zippering my DSR708 last week and am having fun(?) with my Tivo. Tried out Tivo server, TyTools, NCIDpop with mixed results probably user errors but that is another thread.

Anyway I finally got around to locking down security as tight as I can on wireless and ran ran setSSIDwep.tcl everything seemed fine had WEP up and running for about a day. I next wanted to try out remote accessing TWP over the internet. Went to DynDNS set up an account to track my home IP. Changed the port in the tivoweb.cfg file (that was another bit of research to edit the file). Setup port forwarding on my router and then in TWP I needed to restart TWP to get the changes to take effect. Rather than going out to my tivo and restarting in TWP I clicked on Restart the Quick reload. Was able to then access TWP locally using the new port and also using the dyndns account from my home. Sweet, but the acid test was today when I tried to access from work.

By the way when you do a quick reload of TWP HackMan become available. Don't know if that was a codding hole or not just FYI.

Anyway tried to access TWP from work but no luck darn. But wait I work for the govt and figure they might do some port blocking on our intranet, so I give my father a call and have him try, still no luck, oh well I'll troubleshoot when I get home.

Long story short, wireless connection lost and would only come back after a few restarts of the tivo, and then only without WEP. Reran setSSIDwep with no luck. It says it runs OK and when you restart the light on my USB wireless blinks but does not connect and require another restart and turning off WEP. ANY Ideas?Check out the troubleshooting tips in the Zipper wikki. Also see if you can connect with WEP disabled on your router (and tivo).

rbautch
03-23-2006, 10:56 PM
:confused: I recently hacked a RCA DRR40 using the zipper, all was well for about 2 weeks then all hacks quit working except to telnet..What went wrong??
Try rebooting. What hack in particular are not working? Type ps at bash and confirm that hacks are running.

rbautch
03-23-2006, 11:12 PM
I also just completed the Zipper tutorial. I used an Instantcake image ( 6.2 ) on a virgin 200 GB drive. I ran the Zipper and successfully expanded my drive. I did it on a PC at work since I have all Macs at home. I replaced the drive in my Directivo and now have 177 hr drive. I have an IP set for the tivo and the router. I know I need to run the tweak.sh script in order to install the enhancements. I tried to set up a wireless connection with a Tivo branded wireless adaptor that I have been using successfully with a Humax Dvd/Series 2 tivo. The adaptor lights up, but I can't see the tivo on my network. Is it possible to telnet into the tivo to run the tweak script with my Mac OS 10.4 or will I need to do it with a PC. I'm thrilled that I"ve made it this far by just following the instructions. Almost there. The info on this forum has been great. If I can get over this last hurdle I can Zipper my other 2 tivos.
By "see on your network", if you mean see it in your DHCP clients table on your router, it wont appear there. Try to telnet to the IP you set in the zipper.

JWThiers
03-24-2006, 12:03 AM
Check out the troubleshooting tips in the Zipper wikki. Also see if you can connect with WEP disabled on your router (and tivo).
Checked wiki

using netgear MA111
WEP Off on router
light on, on the adapter
connecting to correct IP
No Firewalls installed

Connects no problems

run PuTTY to tenet in
cd /enhancements
setSSIDwep.tcl
gives current status, asks if you want to change /add wireless parameters
asks if you want to use DHCP? N
Asks for SSID of router. enter SSID
Asks if you want to enable WEP? Y
Choose from list predefined WEP
Gives new setting tells toy to reboot Tivo

Reboot tivo
go into router setup
ensure wireless is enabled
check/set SSID to match above
enable SSID broadcast (for now)
Enable WEP
set key to 64 bit and enter key given previously

After Tivo reboot...
DOH!!!!!
Go ahead and make a liar of me. I only did the same thing about a half a dozen times this evening carefully trying different combinations of WEP on/off only to have to reboot a time or two and turning WEP off. Oh Well thanks for the help. If anything There is now a written step by step for turning WEP on/off.

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 12:40 AM
Checked wiki

using netgear MA111
WEP Off on router
light on, on the adapter
connecting to correct IP
No Firewalls installed

Connects no problems

run PuTTY to tenet in
cd /enhancements
setSSIDwep.tcl
gives current status, asks if you want to change /add wireless parameters
asks if you want to use DHCP? N
Asks for SSID of router. enter SSID
Asks if you want to enable WEP? Y
Choose from list predefined WEP
Gives new setting tells toy to reboot Tivo

Reboot tivo
go into router setup
ensure wireless is enabled
check/set SSID to match above
enable SSID broadcast (for now)
Enable WEP
set key to 64 bit and enter key given previously

After Tivo reboot...
DOH!!!!!
Go ahead and make a liar of me. I only did the same thing about a half a dozen times this evening carefully trying different combinations of WEP on/off only to have to reboot a time or two and turning WEP off. Oh Well thanks for the help. If anything There is now a written step by step for turning WEP on/off.
i have been up for 36 hours so excuse this post if the answer is extremely obvious... were you able to resolve ur problem????

JWThiers
03-24-2006, 12:51 AM
i have been up for 36 hours so excuse this post if the answer is extremely obvious... were you able to resolve ur problem????
The problem is resolved .

It only fixed itself after me first trying to fix it several times getting frustrated and finally asking for help here. I got someone to answer and step through the problem again and poof it worked. I guess sometimes you need an audience.

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 12:53 AM
The problem is resolved .

It only fixed itself after me first trying to fix it several times getting frustrated and finally asking for help here. I got someone to answer and step through the problem again and poof it worked. I guess sometimes you need an audience.
ahh... isnt that always the case...

JWThiers
03-24-2006, 12:57 AM
ahh... isnt that always the case...
I needed something to do for 4 hours tonight anyway.

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 12:59 AM
I needed something to do for 4 hours tonight anyway.
lol.... i hear ya... i just got off work at 11pm CST and have to wind down before i will be able to sleep...

tall1
03-24-2006, 01:06 AM
I have a zippered HDTivo and now want to add another 300gb hardrive. I plan to follow the weaknees Interactive TiVo Upgrade Instructions. Anything I need to be aware of now that my HDTivo is zippered?

rbautch
03-24-2006, 01:19 AM
I have a zippered HDTivo and now want to add another 300gb hardrive. I plan to follow the weaknees Interactive TiVo Upgrade Instructions. Anything I need to be aware of now that my HDTivo is zippered? Just make sure your jumpers are set correctly.

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 01:31 AM
Just make sure your jumpers are set correctly.
definately something to make sure is correct... my friends tivo wouldnt boot after i installed their dual 250gb hds in theirs this morning..... i chkd the jumper and sure enough they were both set to master....

and by the way Rbautch.... i added the "rbautch_files.tgz" to the same directory.... worked like a charm..... i just need the ethernet adapters so i can get my 2 tivos on the internet

tall1
03-24-2006, 01:56 AM
Just make sure your jumpers are set correctly.Thanks for the reminder. I have messed this up a couple times and wasted the better part of a Saturday afternoon trying to figure out what was wrong.

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 02:06 AM
Thanks for the reminder. I have messed this up a couple times and wasted the better part of a Saturday afternoon trying to figure out what was wrong.
i have been working on PC hardware now for about 15 years and my worst experience was when i was helping someone work on their computer... the CDrom wouldnt work and i tried 3 drives before seeing that they had a 3rd IDE cable hooked up to the board that didnt go anywhere... i hate mini atx cases with a passion because of that pc... i had to remove the drives, floppy hard and CDrom, the power supply and the CPU fan to get the @^&#&^@*& cable out. the old compaq mini towers were the absolute worst to work on....my friend got a good deal on it though.... they bought it from someone who had upgraded the cdrom to a faster speed and thought they fubarred it in the process so they sold it to him for 100 when that model of computer was still going for 1700... i should have charged them for the 2.5 hrs working on that annoying poc.....

Phe0nix
03-24-2006, 02:06 AM
Just completed the zipper install on my Phillips DSR 7000. I'm having problems with windows xp "telnet client adding extra line feeds causing the script to fail. "

I don't see the "additional directions for windows xp users" anywhere. I'd rather use a different Telnet client if that would be easier. I hit "CTRL + C and then
typed cd /hacks and then sh tweak.sh and it trys to download the latest script from a server somewhere and isn't able to. It tells me to adjust my DNS and try agian. I don't know what i need to do here.

Thanks

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 02:15 AM
Just completed the zipper install on my Phillips DSR 7000. I'm having problems with windows xp "telnet client adding extra line feeds causing the script to fail. "

I don't see the "additional directions for windows xp users" anywhere. I'd rather use a different Telnet client if that would be easier. I hit "CTRL + C and then
typed cd /hacks and then sh tweak.sh and it trys to download the latest script from a server somewhere and isn't able to. It tells me to adjust my DNS and try agian. I don't know what i need to do here.

Thanks
this i can help you with...thanks to rbautch... i had almost the same issue.... use hyperterminal.... and as to the problem trying to connect.... type "rz" and then click on the send icon on the top (it looks like a page with some dots to the left...) then browse on ur pc and select where ever the "rbautch_files.sh" file is located... down below make sure it says zmodem.... click send
it should take about 4 min if the connection is set at 115k.....then try to run the
cd /hacks
sh tweak.sh
...that should fix it

tall1
03-24-2006, 02:36 AM
i have been working on PC hardware now for about 15 years and my worst experience was when i was helping someone work on their computer... the CDrom wouldnt work and i tried 3 drives before seeing that they had a 3rd IDE cable hooked up to the board that didnt go anywhere... i hate mini atx cases with a passion because of that pc... i had to remove the drives, floppy hard and CDrom, the power supply and the CPU fan to get the @^&#&^@*& cable out. the old compaq mini towers were the absolute worst to work on....my friend got a good deal on it though.... they bought it from someone who had upgraded the cdrom to a faster speed and thought they fubarred it in the process so they sold it to him for 100 when that model of computer was still going for 1700... i should have charged them for the 2.5 hrs working on that annoying poc.....Yep. Been there. I upgraded an HP Pavillion HD once, solving a rubics cube was far easier than trying to figure out how to manuver the different bays on that pc.

I second hyperterminal if you have XP. Very easy to double click an icon to a bash prompt.

Phe0nix
03-24-2006, 02:45 AM
I'm following you so far but i'm confused with the filename you told me to browse to ( rbautch_files.sh ) . I have ( rbautch_files.tgz ) on my "Tools CD" and when i uncompress it i still don't see the file rbautch_files.sh . I have an updated file named tweak.sh from HERE (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680)

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 02:54 AM
I'm following you so far but i'm confused with the filename you told me to browse to ( rbautch_files.sh ) . I have ( rbautch_files.tgz ) on my "Tools CD" and when i uncompress it i still don't see the file rbautch_files.sh . I have an updated file named tweak.sh from HERE (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=250680)
once you get hyperterminal running... send the following commands
cd /hacks [ENTER]
rz [ENTER]
click on the send icon and send the rbautch_files.tgz file from your tools cd..make sure it says Zmodem under protocol...
this will put the rbautch_files.tgz file in the same directory as tweak.sh....
then enter the following while still in the cd /hacks directory...
sh tweak.sh [ENTER]
you should then be able to follow the prompts to install the tweaks....

there is no rbautch_files.sh.... the tweak.sh script uses rbautch_files.tgz as an installation file....

i just saw that i had typed rbautch_files.sh earlier... sorry about that

Phe0nix
03-24-2006, 03:10 AM
Thanks for clearing that up. I am geting closer now. It seems a bit buggy right now but i'll keep trying to send the file. Only it doesn't seem to make since to send
that file since it was included on my "tools cd" and i thought that zipper would have already installed it. I keep getting transfer canceled

bash-2.02# rz
ŠBB0BB0BB0BB0BB00ive.**B000000023be50
rz: rbautch_files.tgz removed.
BB0BBbash-2.02# bash-2.02# cd /hacks
bash-2.02# rz
ŠBB0BB0ng to receive.**B000000023be50
rz: rbautch_files.tgz removed.
BB0BBbash-2.02#

MATT1981M
03-24-2006, 03:28 AM
Thanks for clearing that up. I am geting closer now. It seems a bit buggy right now but i'll keep trying to send the file. Only it doesn't seem to make since to send
that file since it was included on my "tools cd" and i thought that zipper would have already installed it. I keep getting transfer canceled

bash-2.02# rz
ŠBB0BB0BB0BB0BB00ive.**B000000023be50
rz: rbautch_files.tgz removed.
BB0BBbash-2.02# bash-2.02# cd /hacks
bash-2.02# rz
ŠBB0BB0ng to receive.**B000000023be50
rz: rbautch_files.tgz removed.
BB0BBbash-2.02#
follow steps 1 & 2 from http://www.tivohelp.com/archive/tivohelp.swiki.net/45.html
then open hyperterminal, name the connection & click ok...under connect using select correct com port...then click ok....set port speed to 115200...and then set flow control to none.... you should then be able to send the file

Phe0nix
03-24-2006, 04:28 AM
Now i can't ping or telnet into the Tivo at all to get the Bash prompt. Coluld i have lost a file on the Tivo hdd somehow. I was getting the bach commands everytime i tried.should i take the drive out and do a low level format on it and reinstall zipper
from the begining again? I"m using a USB to Ethernet adapter ( linksys 200M ver 1 ). Seems like something got deleted shomewhere along the line.

mike9805
03-24-2006, 07:53 AM
when I use the ps command all I get is command not found. what is no longer working is I can not access tivoweb plus I also can not access my now playing list using tytools

Gunnyman
03-24-2006, 08:47 AM
mike sounds like your author file got messed up.

JWThiers
03-24-2006, 09:02 AM
Hey Gunny
I'm Thinking about DHCP and I am sure there has to be a way to connect to your Tivo using telnet, ftp, twp, etc without going to the router setup to get info from the DHCP table.

Doing a search on DHCP, you mentioned something about a host file. I was wondering what a host file is, If this is useful to my wonderings, where I can get more info?

mike9805
03-24-2006, 09:02 AM
That doesn't sound good--how do I correct it and keep it from reoccuring?

Gunnyman
03-24-2006, 09:10 AM
mike did you happen to use hackman in twp to "manage" hack startup?

mike9805
03-24-2006, 09:21 AM
No-I never really got into twp other than to look around and see what all was in there-no changes were ever made-just the way it loaded is the way I used it..

Kyotech
03-24-2006, 09:41 AM
Great guide, thanks gunny. I hacked my first tivo using the 4.01b way (I think, it was a while ago) and then upgraded to 6.2 using slices. On that tivo I have a phone & network settings where I can set the IP and network settings directly through the tivo. After setting up my 2nd tivo with the zipper I don't have that settings. Is this correct? I can TWP fine and change the IP through that.

Also noticed that I can't get MRV to work. I get the HMO working but I can't see the other tivo under now playing.

swizzlest
03-24-2006, 12:10 PM
Hmm....so if my network adapter is backwards compatible, and I still can't telnet to the Tivo after Zippering, where do I start?

pendragn
03-24-2006, 12:49 PM
Hey Gunny
I'm Thinking about DHCP and I am sure there has to be a way to connect to your Tivo using telnet, ftp, twp, etc without going to the router setup to get info from the DHCP table.

I use osdwriter to splash my IP address on the screen when my TiVo boots up. That way I always know what the address is. Seems to work pretty well.

tk

Gunnyman
03-24-2006, 02:19 PM
Hmm....so if my network adapter is backwards compatible, and I still can't telnet to the Tivo after Zippering, where do I start?

The USB200m version 2 won't work until you run the enhance script portion of the Zipper.
We've covered that a few times ;)
As for why isn't usb 2.0 installed while the drive is in your PC, I'll defer to Rbautch on that question.

swizzlest
03-24-2006, 02:44 PM
Just read back through today and found that.

Thanks Gunny, I appreciate it. Truly do!

bengalfreak
03-24-2006, 03:07 PM
My systems are all running 6.2-01-2-151 now. The version of 62small.mfs I have is a version of 6.2 that is earlier than that. I don't know the exact number, but it's older.

tk


No, its not. The 62small.mfs is software version 6.2-01-2-321. The last three digits in the software number are the first three digits of the tivo service number of the machine the image was taken from. The latest version of the software is 6.2-01-2-xxx. 'xxx' can be any of the following numbers:

101

121

151

301

321

351

381

3F1.

All of the above came out at exactly the same time. In fact, any of the above versions will work on any series 2 (non R10) DTivo with the only difference being the wrong brand and model no. might display on the system info. screen. Unless you absolutely have to have those two items match your DVR, you're wasting your time with a software d/l from Tivo.

trainman
03-24-2006, 03:08 PM
I think this got lost in the shuffle, so I'll try taking a crack at it...

I tried to set up a wireless connection with a Tivo branded wireless adaptor that I have been using successfully with a Humax Dvd/Series 2 tivo. The adaptor lights up, but I can't see the tivo on my network.

I believe the TiVo wireless adaptor uses type "G" wireless, but a zippered DirecTiVo can only handle type "B" wireless, so you'll probably need to find a different (older) wireless adaptor.

Is it possible to telnet into the tivo to run the tweak script with my Mac OS 10.4 or will I need to do it with a PC.

Use the Terminal program on your Mac (located in Applications/Utilities), and enter telnet -K your TiVo's IP address at the prompt. (That's a minus sign immediately followed by a capital letter K.)

titleistmd
03-24-2006, 08:19 PM
I have three tivos that I have zippered and run enhancement scipt on. I have also installed hackman module in twp.

two of my tivos had the wrong bash prompt name so I went in and changed the /.profile with vi editor on them. On one no problems but on the other I have lost telnet, ftp(connection refused) and twp access to the machine. It is connected on the network and I can access the now playing list from my other tivos. I assume I must have fat fingered something in the .profile editing. Is there anything I can do outside of removing the hard drive? If no do I have to rezipper or can I just try to remount the drive in my pc and run the enhancement script again. Thanks for any suggestions

SupermanCA
03-24-2006, 09:07 PM
Forgive me, I have searched and can't find the folling:
I have a HR10-250 that I just replaced HD with a new 400gb using instantcake, zipper and enhancement script. It works great. Thanks so much. What do I need to do to add a 2nd hard drive without redoing the 400gb drive? If the post is available, just point me that way.

Gunnyman
03-24-2006, 09:13 PM
just a simple mfsadd
look in the upgrade forum for details

chungsyi
03-24-2006, 11:01 PM
Gunnyman and/or rbautch,
Any other suggestions? I just ran the zipper again (without any reported errors), put the hard drive in my dtivo but only to get the "Welcome. Powering up..." then "Almost there. Just a few minutes more..." loop.

I've checked the jumpers on my hard drives but no luck. Am I forced to re-image my drive?

Thanks guys!

MATT1981M
03-25-2006, 12:51 AM
Now i can't ping or telnet into the Tivo at all to get the Bash prompt. Coluld i have lost a file on the Tivo hdd somehow. I was getting the bach commands everytime i tried.should i take the drive out and do a low level format on it and reinstall zipper
from the begining again? I"m using a USB to Ethernet adapter ( linksys 200M ver 1 ). Seems like something got deleted shomewhere along the line.
were you able to get it to work.... i see you stated u were using the usb200m linksys adapter.... were you using a serial cable to access the bash prompt??? the usb200m is not compatible until after you run the tweak.sh and say yes to installing the usb 2.0 drivers....

SupermanCA
03-25-2006, 12:58 PM
just a simple mfsadd
look in the upgrade forum for details


Thanks, your the GREATEST! Funniest thing, yesterday a guy saw a TIVO sticker on my Truck, and said "Do you repair Tivo's", I replied, "Funny you should ask...." ;))

Phe0nix
03-25-2006, 02:19 PM
After connecting my replacement drive in my Phillips DSR 7000 and running the "Tools CD" on it with instantcake 6.2 and LBA48 boot cd with thehacked
kernel i was albe to connect via telent and instantly received a bash prompt.

I wan't able to run the commands to install the hacks runnning Windows XP's command prompt. It gave me errors and suggested i use a different telnet client.
In the threads above i received help using Windows XP's Hyper Terminal and i was
able to get the comand prompt again and still wasn't able to complete installation
of the hacks due to my Tivo no being able to access the internet and received an error message telling me to check my DNS and retry. I haven't been able to get that corrected to download the lastest file and i attempted to use Hyper Terminal to browse my harddrive for the file and upload it manually to the tivo.

I was getting errors here too , don't recall what they were but each time i tried i got different results. Then when i was being helped above they told me to change the braud rate to 15,000. I'm confused as that is under the com ports and once i changed it to 15,000 i haven't been able to get the bash prompts anymore. And i have now changed them back to their defaults and still no go.

Please advise GunnyMan

Gunnyman
03-25-2006, 02:24 PM
using plain ole telnet
start/cmd/run
telnet
now type unset crlf
now type open "tivoipaddress"
execute tweak.sh per directions
??
profit.

willardcpa
03-25-2006, 02:51 PM
Scene - A bedroom somewhere in Beautiful downtown Greenville SC, about 2:am local time, a winsome wife coos, "Gunny that was fantastic, could we do it again?" To which her spouse - more than half asleep - groggily replies, "unset crlf" and rolls over. :( :D

Luv2DrvFst
03-25-2006, 03:05 PM
Too funny!

SteelersFan
03-25-2006, 03:08 PM
LOL. I've probably spoken to my wife in my sleep about my Zippered Tivos! Although she Probably wouldn't know what I was talking about - "Can't Get Bash", "Open Telnet", "RW, then RO". :D

Draven X. Byrne
03-25-2006, 03:20 PM
Hey Gunny
I'm Thinking about DHCP and I am sure there has to be a way to connect to your Tivo using telnet, ftp, twp, etc without going to the router setup to get info from the DHCP table.

Doing a search on DHCP, you mentioned something about a host file. I was wondering what a host file is, If this is useful to my wonderings, where I can get more info?

The hosts file in Unix / Linux is essential the exact same thing as the HOSTS / LMHOSTS file in Windows.

This allows you to not use DNS to get to your TiVo - it'll use the hosts file to do a lookup. I would highly reccomend that you set your TiVo to a static IP address / if you don't want that make it DHCP, find the IP on your DHCP server (probably your router) and then simply make it a reserved address on the IP you want.

That way you'll allways know what the IP address is and it won't change.

DXB

Phe0nix
03-25-2006, 04:53 PM
using plain ole telnet
start/cmd/run
telnet
now type unset crlf
now type open "tivoipaddress"
execute tweak.sh per directions
??
profit.

I'm not a verterain Zipper, just a newbie on this at least. If you left anything out
with an assumption i would then need this clarified.

1. START > RUN > ( type: "cmd" )
2. In DOS Window (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Telnet.JPG) i telent ( telnet -t vt100 192.168.1.8 )
3. I'm now at a blank DOS promt (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Telnet2.JPG) with all text missing ( bash promt without text )
4. type : "unset crlf" ( although nothing i type can be seen anymore (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Tivo telnet Zipper.JPG) )
5. type open "tivoipaddress" ( in my case "open 192.168.1.8" )
6. cd /hacks
sh tweak.sh

As you can see in the pictures there isn't any text where there used to be a Bash prompt. Followed your instructions and noting has changed. Have you seen this before?

dfk70
03-25-2006, 05:01 PM
I'm not a verterain Zipper, just a newbie on this at least. If you left anything out
with an assumption i would then need this clarified.

1. START > RUN > ( type: "cmd" )
2. In DOS Window (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Telnet.JPG) i telent ( telnet -t vt100 192.168.1.8 )
3. I'm now at a blank DOS promt (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Telnet2.JPG) with all text missing ( bash promt without text )
4. type : "unset crlf" ( although nothing i type can be seen anymore (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Tivo telnet Zipper.JPG) )
5. type open "tivoipaddress" ( in my case "open 192.168.1.8" )
6. cd /hacks
sh tweak.sh

As you can see in the pictures there isn't any text where there used to be a Bash prompt. Followed your instructions and noting has changed. Have you seen this before?


step 2 doesn't require the -t vt100 192.168.1.8

Phe0nix
03-25-2006, 05:16 PM
Ok, i just typed "telnet" (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Step2.JPG)

Then type "unset crlf (http://www.thepcaddict.com/Step4.JPG)"

Then type "open 192.168.1.8" ( Connecting to 192.168.1.8........ )

Then i get message " hit any key to return "

Then execute tweak.sh per instructions ( so i type
sh tweak.sh ) and it i get a message "connection to host lost "

Gunnyman
03-25-2006, 05:44 PM
ok I have never seen a tivo say "hit any key to return"
you sure that's what you are telnetting to?

Phe0nix
03-25-2006, 06:43 PM
Yes, i have only 2 lights lit on the router. One for this pc and the other for the Tivo. I don't have anyother PC's connected to my router. I still have 2 ports available on my 4 port router. When i restart my tivo i see the led on the router go off and come back on, so yes i am positive i telneting to the tivo. Telneting to
the same ip address that used to give me "bash-2.02#".

Press any key to continue (http://www.thepcaddict.com/continue.JPG)

After pressing any key (http://www.thepcaddict.com/anykey.JPG)

ttodd1
03-25-2006, 07:37 PM
OK 2 things - first did you happen to do anything like this:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3879208&&#post3879208

and if you open up a telnet window and all you see is the cursor right-click in that window (anywhere) and click on Select All, do you see anything then?

Phe0nix
03-25-2006, 08:48 PM
typing "unset crlf" into notepad and saving as Telnet.ini is only going to save
a few key strokes and isn't going to solve my problem but thanks just the same.

As far as the select all in the DOS window , that only highlights every line with text in it with a white bar across the entire window.

Thanks though

I'm doing a full low level format on my Tivo drive and then using the tools cd again
and i should be back at the bash prompt again like i was prior to all the advise above that ended with where i'm at now ( no prompt ). Just to add, when i was getting the message "press any key to continue" after "connecting to 192.168.1.8" is due to my Tivo not being found as i now getting the same messages with the Tivo dissconnected from the network. Somehow when tying to resolve the know issues with the XP's command prompts by using Hyper Terminal i lost something on the Tivo drive that allows Telnet connectivity.

After reinstalling everything i'll:

using plain ole telnet
start/run/cmd
type: telnet ( not "telnet -t vt100 192.168.1.8" as zipper tutorial says )
type: unset crlf
type: open "192.168.1.8"
type: cd /hacks
type: sh tweak

and follow y & n prompts to install the hacks i want.

is this correct?
??

Gunnyman
03-25-2006, 11:41 PM
yes

Phe0nix
03-26-2006, 12:25 AM
After starting over i still couldn't get a bash promt even though i once did. I hocked up my laptop to the network and received the bash on that pc and all sofware is now installed.

Thanks all....

summerall
03-26-2006, 12:31 AM
Ok, so I've been running 2 zippered tivos for awhile now. Everything in Tivo land was great. Then I had to move my router (spring cleaning of the closet) and when I connected everything back together one of the tivos won't get back on the network. What gives? The light on the router isn't lit. I rebooted the tivo and still nothing. I tried to telnet to every tivo ip I can think of with no luck. Any ideas guys? Help me troubleshoot this.

Thanks

MATT1981M
03-26-2006, 02:30 AM
After starting over i still couldn't get a bash promt even though i once did. I hocked up my laptop to the network and received the bash on that pc and all sofware is now installed.

Thanks all....
wow... u had a worse time than i did.... my desktop wouldnt load the kernel from the boot cd so i couldnt zip the drives....i never figured out what it was.... i have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Asus A8R32-MVP motherboard, 2GB PC3200 DDR, BFG GeForce 7800 GS...it blew my mind....i took an old mb i had in the closet, an old 1800+ Athlon XP processor & fan, and threw in a 512MB DDR stick i had lying around and used an old tempermental PS (will run for as long as you need it to, but will only pwr up if it hadnt been plugged in so you have to unplug it and then plug it back in to get it to boot the pc).... i didnt have a spare case around so i mounted MB spacers to the board and used them as a standoff from my work bench (which is properly grounded of course)... and then clipped a ground wire to one of the stand offs and back to the power supply frame.... and guess what.... it wouldnt boot fully either... i pulled out a formatted HD that had a backup of XP that i use as a recovery master drive and it booted up fine... as a matter of fact i am using it now to post this..... My laptop booted the linux kernel fine.... but it doesnt have EIDE ports on it that i can use, but at least i was able to determine that it was not my disk....then i pulled out my friends door stop....and yes i mean door stop... he used it to keep the closet door from shutting while he was moving things around because the handle didnt work from the inside... i had to go over and "get him out of the closet... it happened the night after that south park episode...anyway this pos had a 66 MHZ processor and 32MB EDO ram....it also had a 512mb bigfoot drive that had windows 3.1 on it... memories....thank god computers have advanced....heck my cellphone has twice that amount of memory and a faster processor than that door stop (Nokia 6255i with a 1GB MMC).... anyway it booted up beautifully and i was able to zip my drives.... And here my friend said that old PC was not good for anything more than a door stop. :D

bengalfreak
03-26-2006, 06:19 AM
wow... u had a worse time than i did.... my desktop wouldnt load the kernel from the boot cd so i couldnt zip the drives....i never figured out what it was.... i have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Asus A8R32-MVP motherboard, 2GB PC3200 DDR, BFG GeForce 7800 GS...it blew my mind....i took an old mb i had in the closet, an old 1800+ Athlon XP processor & fan, and threw in a 512MB DDR stick i had lying around and used an old tempermental PS (will run for as long as you need it to, but will only pwr up if it hadnt been plugged in so you have to unplug it and then plug it back in to get it to boot the pc).... i didnt have a spare case around so i mounted MB spacers to the board and used them as a standoff from my work bench (which is properly grounded of course)... and then clipped a ground wire to one of the stand offs and back to the power supply frame.... and guess what.... it wouldnt boot fully either... i pulled out a formatted HD that had a backup of XP that i use as a recovery master drive and it booted up fine... as a matter of fact i am using it now to post this..... My laptop booted the linux kernel fine.... but it doesnt have EIDE ports on it that i can use, but at least i was able to determine that it was not my disk....then i pulled out my friends door stop....and yes i mean door stop... he used it to keep the closet door from shutting while he was moving things around because the handle didnt work from the inside... i had to go over and "get him out of the closet... it happened the night after that south park episode...anyway this pos had a 66 MHZ processor and 32MB EDO ram....it also had a 512mb bigfoot drive that had windows 3.1 on it... memories....thank god computers have advanced....heck my cellphone has twice that amount of memory and a faster processor than that door stop (Nokia 6255i with a 1GB MMC).... anyway it booted up beautifully and i was able to zip my drives.... And here my friend said that old PC was not good for anything more than a door stop. :D

Paragraphs are a wonderful invention. You should try them sometime.

Draven X. Byrne
03-26-2006, 07:48 AM
I've tried this with no luck. :confused:

BTW, You can type "u" instead of unset.

For those people that are having a hard time with telnet in XP I'd highly suggest SecureCRT www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt

That's the client I use and it works no prob outta the box.

DXB

Draven X. Byrne
03-26-2006, 07:56 AM
the site has full instructions but you simply ftp the vserver to /busybox.
for music and photo sharing since you are on pnther I think you have to use javahmo
javahmo.sourceforge.net

Gunny / Russ -

I've been searching and haven't found if there is a reason why we can't use the "official" TiVo software for Music & Pictures. Is there a reason we have to use JavaHMO only?

Thanks in advance . . .

DXB

edit: Has anyone used Galleon with a zippered DirecTiVo or do we just use the last version of JavaHMO?

emania
03-26-2006, 09:03 AM
OK - since i've gotten such accurate, and entertaining support from this forum before (not to mention the cool upgrade) i think this is the place to start.

my guess: get a new box, cause the video out is hosed.

history: I zippered my Hughes HDVR2 awhile back, and kept the the installed image and recordings. It green screened on me - but came back strong and never happened again. it occasionally hangs, oh well. the tivo is not hooked to the network, and it is not hooked to a telephone line.

symptom: Today, something new has happened - and here is the big one. I'm getting random letters and digits on a single text line down the center of my screen. They are non-sense, change colors every so often...start on the left and work their way across in about 3 minutes.

home remedies tried: Yes, i've rebooted (restart). changed channels, selected other receiver, happens with live tv, or recordings. squashed garlic, burned incense.

dilemma: I have 30 hours of barney i don't want to lose :)

your prognosis here:

Now i know the zipper is really an easy way to get the SETI project on all of the world's tivos..........or is it the new weather simulation....

humorous help always appreciated.

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 09:23 AM
Gunny / Russ -

I've been searching and haven't found if there is a reason why we can't use the "official" TiVo software for Music & Pictures. Is there a reason we have to use JavaHMO only?

Thanks in advance . . .

DXB

edit: Has anyone used Galleon with a zippered DirecTiVo or do we just use the last version of JavaHMO?

The latest version of Tivo desktop on Mac REQUIRES Tiger the OP didn't have Tiger
Galleon is Standalone Tivo only.

Draven X. Byrne
03-26-2006, 11:21 AM
The latest version of Tivo desktop on Mac REQUIRES Tiger the OP didn't have Tiger
Galleon is Standalone Tivo only.

Thanks for the answer Gunny -

Does TiVo Desktop 2.2 by itself for PC work with the zipper?

Also, do you have to install TiVo Desktop 2.2 to make JavaHMO work?

DXB

pendragn
03-26-2006, 11:24 AM
Thanks for the answer Gunny -

Does TiVo Desktop for PC work with the zipper?

DXB
TiVo Desktop can serve up MP3 and JPGs to a zipper unit. You can't use any of the TiVo2Go options though.

tk

2500
03-26-2006, 01:37 PM
My DSR7000 won't connect to tytool or tivoweb anymore. It has been working great and it just stopped. I Zippered it originally and have since pulled the HDD and Zippered it again. I can Telnet to it and that's it. here's a copy of my telnet session:

S2-bash# cd /hacks
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
Enhancements directory detected. Run the uninstall script first. Exiting...
S2-bash# ls
mfs_network superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl
network.tcl tweak.sh
set_mrv_name_67.tcl tweak_uninstall.sh

S2-bash# tweak_uninstall.sh
Removing directories and files...
skipping TWP uninstall...
Skipping cron uninstall...
Skipping CallerID uninstall...
Skipping fakecall restore...
Skipping USB 2.0 driver restore...
No bakup profile found, skipping profile restore...
Restoring original rc.sysinit.author file
mv: rc.sysinit.author.bak: No such file or directory
No backup splash screen found, skipping splash restore...
Done!

S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
mv: /hacks/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
chmod: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory

Running rbautch Hacked Tivo Enhancements...
tar: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
Do you want to run the "express" version (for advanced users)? [y/n]: n
tweak.sh: /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory
Do you want to continue? [y/n]: y

S2-bash#

It keeps asking if I want to continue and when I answer yes it goes back to the prompt. Any suggestions I can try ?
Thanks

quaestor
03-26-2006, 01:49 PM
(I apologize in advance if my tone seems inappropriate...)

So, is there any way to do the Zipper upgrade without SPENDING FORTY BUCKS?

Let me guess, PTV raised the price for the boot cd from $5 to $19.99 shortly after the Zipper became popular...

OK, even assuming that I save $20 by (somehow) finding and downloading a 6.2 image, I still need to spend $20 to get the LBA48 boot disk w/ patched kernels (seems like the kernel patching aspect of this (tivo hacking) is the hardest part...)

I don't suppose anyone has done a "Poor Man's Guide to Zipper"?

q

PS yeah, twenty bucks is too much for me right now; but it's ALSO the principle of the thing...

pendragn
03-26-2006, 02:03 PM
(I apologize in advance if my tone seems inappropriate...)
Yup, your tone seems inappropriate. This is a forum of people offering some scripts they wrote for free and they spend hours answering the same questions over and over for free and you come in here to complain it's not free enough?

So, is there any way to do the Zipper upgrade without SPENDING FORTY BUCKS?

There sure is. You can build your own boot CD with Linux, which is free. You can scour around eDonkey for an image of 62small.mfs, which is also free. Your $40 isn't going towards software, it's going towards your convenience. If you have more time than money, it can be done without SPENDING FORTY BUCKS.

Let me guess, PTV raised the price for the boot cd from $5 to $19.99 shortly after the Zipper became popular...

No idea. But I wouldn't blame them. They're in business to put food on the table, it's not an altruistic venture. Supply and demand are an important part of business, and our economy is based on capitalism. Don't try to vilify them and make it sound like they're doing something dastardly (if they did anything at all).

OK, even assuming that I save $20 by (somehow) finding and downloading a 6.2 image, I still need to spend $20 to get the LBA48 boot disk w/ patched kernels (seems like the kernel patching aspect of this (tivo hacking) is the hardest part...)

Last time I checked (which admittedly has been a while) killinithd was free, but you need to supply it a kernel. You can get that kernel from your TiVo or from a TiVo image download. Both of which are FREE.

I don't suppose anyone has done a "Poor Man's Guide to Zipper"?

I think I just did.

q


tk


PS yeah, twenty bucks is too much for me right now; but it's ALSO the principle of the thing...
And which principle is that, exactly? That the work these people did to collect and simplify this stuff is worth NOTHING? How rude. No one is forcing you to use this stuff. There are plenty of ways to do this without the Zipper. People were adding hacks to their TiVos YEARS before the InstantCake CD was available. If you don't know how to do all these hacks yourself manually, then you're at the mercy of the folks that do. But to say it's against your PRINCIPLES to pay for someone else's hard work, that's just amazing.

If you don't want to spend any money, you're going to have to spend a lot of time reading. Start here and www.ddb.com. I can't put the actual URL, as it's blocked here.

tk

Langree
03-26-2006, 02:11 PM
Wow, and Todd is usually so quiet and nice :)

btw: I agree with everything he posted...


ok, except the tk part, my initials are different :p

ttodd1
03-26-2006, 02:38 PM
PS yeah, twenty bucks is too much for me right now; but it's ALSO the principle of the thing...

If it is too much for you right now then you have 2 options:

1 - wait til you have the 20 to spend or

2 - do a whole lot of reading and do it for free........

If neither of these is suitable then maybe this isn't something you REALLY need to do. :down:

If you want ease then it is going to cost some money, if you want cheap/free then it is going to cost some time - take your pick no one is twisting your arm to do it either way.

ttodd1
03-26-2006, 03:01 PM
typing "unset crlf" into notepad and saving as Telnet.ini is only going to save a few key strokes and isn't going to solve my problem but thanks just the same.

As far as the select all in the DOS window , that only highlights every line with text in it with a white bar across the entire window.

Thanks though


I wasn't suggesting that it would fix it, I was trying to narrow down what may have been causing the problem. If you had done it maybe some "extra" commands or such got into the ini.

As for the select all suggestion - yes that is what I wanted it to do so that "we" could see if maybe a inverse effect on the text had happened (you know black text on a black background dosen't show up too well). But since you are redoing it then "we" may never know what the real problem was. :)

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 03:12 PM
(I apologize in advance if my tone seems inappropriate...)

So, is there any way to do the Zipper upgrade without SPENDING FORTY BUCKS?

Let me guess, PTV raised the price for the boot cd from $5 to $19.99 shortly after the Zipper became popular...

OK, even assuming that I save $20 by (somehow) finding and downloading a 6.2 image, I still need to spend $20 to get the LBA48 boot disk w/ patched kernels (seems like the kernel patching aspect of this (tivo hacking) is the hardest part...)

I don't suppose anyone has done a "Poor Man's Guide to Zipper"?

q

PS yeah, twenty bucks is too much for me right now; but it's ALSO the principle of the thing...

Not much else to add except to say this
1) the Boot cd still costs the same 5 bucks it always has.
2) I have received email offers of 100 bucks or more to hack people's tivos for them and have never taken them up on it
3) neither Russ nor I make a DIME from all this help and support we have been providing
4) enjoy your stock tivo.

ForrestB
03-26-2006, 03:19 PM
Is it possible to get the Tivo OS 6.2 off my working HDVR2 drive using MFS Tools 2 and install it on a new 160GB hard drive using just the LBA48 Boot CD ($5)?

Can I still use the Tivo Zipper to run the Enhancement script which installs the USB 2 drivers and Tivowebplus, etc?

My knowledge of Linux is just a bit more than a newbie.

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 03:20 PM
yes to both questions
the 5 dollar cd has mfstools on it

2500
03-26-2006, 03:57 PM
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
Enhancements directory detected. Run the uninstall script first. Exiting...
S2-bash# ls
mfs_network superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl
network.tcl tweak.sh
set_mrv_name_67.tcl tweak_uninstall.sh
S2-bash# sh tweak_uninstall.sh
Removing directories and files...
skipping TWP uninstall...
Skipping cron uninstall...
Skipping CallerID uninstall...
Skipping fakecall restore...
Skipping USB 2.0 driver restore...
No bakup profile found, skipping profile restore...
Restoring original rc.sysinit.author file
mv: rc.sysinit.author.bak: No such file or directory
No backup splash screen found, skipping splash restore...
Done!
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
mv: /hacks/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
chmod: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory

Running rbautch Hacked Tivo Enhancements...
tar: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
Do you want to run the "express" version (for advanced users)? [y/n]: n
tweak.sh: /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory
Do you want to continue? [y/n]: y

S2-bash#


Should I just wipe out everything and do a fresh install ? I'd like to keep my recordings if possible. Any help would be great.
Thanks

Phe0nix
03-26-2006, 04:03 PM
I am getting a Bash everytime now. It took me 2 hours reading through guides that never told me how to execute TWP, i had to read many many many post in this thread before i discovered how to run it. Now i have it running with typing "TWP" at the bash. I'm getting an error that leads me to beleive that TWP
is already running yet i can't access it in my IE. I can telnet all day long with no problems but can't get my browser to access it.

http://192.168.1.8

also tried

http://192.168.1.8:23

Thanks

2500
03-26-2006, 04:37 PM
Well I just checked and I can now FTP over to it but still no tivoweb or tytool.

Draven X. Byrne
03-26-2006, 04:58 PM
TiVo Desktop can serve up MP3 and JPGs to a zipper unit. You can't use any of the TiVo2Go options though.

tk

Thanks much Todd -

I'd read but didn't see anything about why TiVo desktop would or wouldn't work - just that everyone was using JavaHMO.

JavaHMO obviously does more then just the TiVo desktop - just their instructions state to install TiVo desktop as well - which threw me. Just wanted to know what my options were.

Thanks again to everyone -

DXB

pendragn
03-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Well I just checked and I can now FTP over to it but still no tivoweb or tytool.
Telnet in and run this:

ps -ax | grep tivoweb
What is the output?

tk

titleistmd
03-26-2006, 05:30 PM
Not much else to add except to say this
1) the Boot cd still costs the same 5 bucks it always has.
2) I have received email offers of 100 bucks or more to hack people's tivos for them and have never taken them up on it
3) neither Russ nor I make a DIME from all this help and support we have been providing
4) enjoy your stock tivo.
I just wanted to thank all those who have helped me get my dtivos hacked and continue to provide me answers for free. Their scripts, hacks and advice are well worth every penny. Oh, I forgot, I actually have not paid gunny, russ, and other a cent. the 25 bucks I spent at ptvupgrade was well worth the price of admission.

Thanks again for the help all you folks give.

Richard

Adam1115
03-26-2006, 05:34 PM
Can someone explain to me how breaking into your TiVo and running a script that disables encryption that allows you to do MRV is not theft of service? I mean someone encrypted the stream for a reason...

quaestor
03-26-2006, 05:36 PM
hmmm...

Interesting responses.

So, I'm at fault for wanting all the hard work of others for free.

But it's perfectly OK for ptv to charge $20 for the same (free) hard work.

I come from the free/open source community, so my views on all this are
*very* different from the tone that I generally sense around here
(and have since I first discovered this board and deal data base).

If anyone's interested in the least (doubtful), check out the writings of
Richard Stallman.

Oh, and the link at the Zipper page doesn't point to the (still available)
$5 boot CD. Kudos to ptv for providing value added at a *very* reasonable
price (no sarcasm).

q

PS I'll be enjoying my *hacked* DirecTivo; the point is I'll have done it
entirely on my own, without the help of a friendly and supportive community
at my back. If this doesn't make sense to you, spend some time around: the
Gentoo fora; the Ubuntu/Kubuntu fora; hell, even the CVS camera
hacking fora...

2500
03-26-2006, 05:39 PM
Thanks for your help here's the output:

S2-bash# ps -ax | grep tivoweb
950 0 536 S grep tivoweb
S2-bash#

pendragn
03-26-2006, 05:47 PM
Thanks for your help here's the output:

S2-bash# ps -ax | grep tivoweb
950 0 536 S grep tivoweb
S2-bash#
That means TiVoWeb is not running, which of course is why you cannot connect to it.

What is the output of this:
more /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.author | grep TWPrun

tk

2500
03-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Not much


S2-bash# more /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.author | grep TWPrun
S2-bash# more /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.author | grep TWPrun
S2-bash#


I have figured out why tytool won't work the tserver was gone from var/hack so I replaced that and that's back up and running.

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 05:52 PM
hmmm...

Interesting responses.

So, I'm at fault for wanting all the hard work of others for free.

But it's perfectly OK for ptv to charge $20 for the same (free) hard work.

I come from the free/open source community, so my views on all this are
*very* different from the tone that I generally sense around here
(and have since I first discovered this board and deal data base).

If anyone's interested in the least (doubtful), check out the writings of
Richard Stallman.

Oh, and the link at the Zipper page doesn't point to the (still available)
$5 boot CD. Kudos to ptv for providing value added at a *very* reasonable
price (no sarcasm).

q

PS I'll be enjoying my *hacked* DirecTivo; the point is I'll have done it
entirely on my own, without the help of a friendly and supportive community
at my back. If this doesn't make sense to you, spend some time around: the
Gentoo fora; the Ubuntu/Kubuntu fora; hell, even the CVS camera
hacking fora...
I clicked on the link in the zipper instructions and pulled up the 5 dollar cd.
5 dollar investment is all you're going to need.
you can indeed do it all for free if you want, but 5 bucks for a verified killhdinitrd kernel is well worth it imho.

pendragn
03-26-2006, 06:01 PM
Not much


S2-bash# more /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.author | grep TWPrun
S2-bash# more /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.author | grep TWPrun
S2-bash#


I have figured out why tytool won't work the tserver was gone from var/hack so I replaced that and that's back up and running.
TivoWeb is not being fired up in your .author file, which is why it's not running. What's this give you:
ls /enhancements/

tk

2500
03-26-2006, 06:04 PM
S2-bash# ls /enhancements/
varhacks
S2-bash#

2500
03-26-2006, 06:07 PM
Did a software update wack all this ? Shouldn't the softwarefalseupdate(sorry if that's not the proper term) taken care of that ?

pendragn
03-26-2006, 06:07 PM
S2-bash# ls /enhancements/
varhacks
S2-bash#
There should be a whole bunch of files in that directory. Sounds like something didn't get finished correctly. You should FTP over the zipper files and rerun tweak.sh (or maybe the uninstall). I'm kinda out of my league with the uninstall/install specifics.

tk

2500
03-26-2006, 06:10 PM
Exactly which zipper files ? Do they go in /enhancements/varhacks ?
Thanks

pendragn
03-26-2006, 06:12 PM
Did a software update wack all this ? Shouldn't the softwarefalseupdate(sorry if that's not the proper term) taken care of that ?
If you got a software upgrade, you wouldn't be able to telnet in either. Did you run tweak.sh at any time? If so, how did it go? Did you get any indication that it didn't go well?

tk

2500
03-26-2006, 06:19 PM
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
Enhancements directory detected. Run the uninstall script first. Exiting...
S2-bash# ls
mfs_network superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl
network.tcl tweak.sh
set_mrv_name_67.tcl tweak_uninstall.sh
S2-bash# sh tweak_uninstall.sh
Removing directories and files...
skipping TWP uninstall...
Skipping cron uninstall...
Skipping CallerID uninstall...
Skipping fakecall restore...
Skipping USB 2.0 driver restore...
No bakup profile found, skipping profile restore...
Restoring original rc.sysinit.author file
mv: rc.sysinit.author.bak: No such file or directory
No backup splash screen found, skipping splash restore...
Done!
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
mv: /hacks/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
chmod: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory

Running rbautch Hacked Tivo Enhancements...
tar: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
Do you want to run the "express" version (for advanced users)? [y/n]: n
tweak.sh: /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory
Do you want to continue? [y/n]: y

S2-bash#

That's what I have tried a few times all with the same out come. I did pull the drive and ran zipper and it asked for the ip and router ip all that went fine.

pendragn
03-26-2006, 06:28 PM
That's what I have tried a few times all with the same out come.
Okay, do you have the latest Zipper? Look for "Tools CD" here. (http://www.mastersav.com/tivo_zipper.html). Open the zip file up and FTP the contents over to the /hacks directory. The important file for you is "rbautch_files.tgz". Then rerun the tweak.sh and see if you have better luck.

tk

2500
03-26-2006, 07:15 PM
S2-bash# cd /hacks
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
Enhancements directory detected. Run the uninstall script first. Exiting...
S2-bash# ls
mfs_network superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl
network.tcl tweak.sh
set_mrv_name_67.tcl tweak_uninstall.sh
S2-bash# sh tweak_uninstall.sh
Removing directories and files...
skipping TWP uninstall...
Skipping cron uninstall...
Skipping CallerID uninstall...
Skipping fakecall restore...
Skipping USB 2.0 driver restore...
No bakup profile found, skipping profile restore...
Restoring original rc.sysinit.author file
mv: rc.sysinit.author.bak: No such file or directory
No backup splash screen found, skipping splash restore...
Done!
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
mv: /hacks/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
chmod: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory

Running rbautch Hacked Tivo Enhancements...
tar: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
Do you want to run the "express" version (for advanced users)? [y/n]: n
tweak.sh: /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory
Do you want to continue? [y/n]: y

S2-bash#

Same thing

ttodd1
03-26-2006, 07:25 PM
PS I'll be enjoying my *hacked* DirecTivo; the point is I'll have done it
entirely on my own, without the help of a friendly and supportive community
at my back. If this doesn't make sense to you, spend some time around: the
Gentoo fora; the Ubuntu/Kubuntu fora; hell, even the CVS camera
hacking fora...

Well I did all mine "on my own" as well, but the difference is I didn't come here (with my first post no less) to whine about the price of the tools that others are using.

What I find so funny about your 2 posts is that you first complain about the price of the tools and then try to impress us that you can do it without them. So then I have to ask why the heck the whining???????

BTW - I hang around with the Fedora crowd and they are just as helpful there as here but then there are the users like you that make it bad no matter which fora you read.

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 07:36 PM
S2-bash# cd /hacks
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
Enhancements directory detected. Run the uninstall script first. Exiting...
S2-bash# ls
mfs_network superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl
network.tcl tweak.sh
set_mrv_name_67.tcl tweak_uninstall.sh
S2-bash# sh tweak_uninstall.sh
Removing directories and files...
skipping TWP uninstall...
Skipping cron uninstall...
Skipping CallerID uninstall...
Skipping fakecall restore...
Skipping USB 2.0 driver restore...
No bakup profile found, skipping profile restore...
Restoring original rc.sysinit.author file
mv: rc.sysinit.author.bak: No such file or directory
No backup splash screen found, skipping splash restore...
Done!
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
mv: /hacks/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
chmod: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory

Running rbautch Hacked Tivo Enhancements...
tar: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
Do you want to run the "express" version (for advanced users)? [y/n]: n
tweak.sh: /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory
Do you want to continue? [y/n]: y

S2-bash#

Same thing
ok I'm back from dinner and ready to pitch in :)

cd to /hacks
ls that directory and report contents

2500
03-26-2006, 08:43 PM
S2-bash# cd /hacks
S2-bash# ls
mfs_network superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl
network.tcl tweak.sh
set_mrv_name_67.tcl tweak_uninstall.sh
S2-bash#

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 08:45 PM
ok for some reason you're not getting the rbautch*.tgz file onto your tivo
ftp THAT file from your tivo tools zipper cd and try it again.

2500
03-26-2006, 09:03 PM
Ok I transfered rbautch_files.tgz 2787Kb -rwxr-xr-x over to /enhancements/varhacks and this is the output:
S2-bash# cd /hacks
S2-bash# ls
mfs_network superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl
network.tcl tweak.sh
set_mrv_name_67.tcl tweak_uninstall.sh
S2-bash# tweak_uninstall.sh
Removing directories and files...
skipping TWP uninstall...
Skipping cron uninstall...
Skipping CallerID uninstall...
Skipping fakecall restore...
Skipping USB 2.0 driver restore...
No bakup profile found, skipping profile restore...
Restoring original rc.sysinit.author file
mv: rc.sysinit.author.bak: No such file or directory
No backup splash screen found, skipping splash restore...
Done!
S2-bash# sh tweak.sh
mv: /hacks/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
chmod: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory

Running rbautch Hacked Tivo Enhancements...
tar: /enhancements/rbautch_files.tgz: No such file or directory
Do you want to run the "express" version (for advanced users)? [y/n]: y
cat: /enhancements/start.sh: No such file or directory
Do you want to continue? [y/n]: y

S2-bash#

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 09:22 PM
ok make sure tweak.sh and teh rbautch.tgz file are in the same directory and try again or,
to make it super easy, remove the /enhancements directory altogether with rm -r /enhancements and rezipper.

2500
03-26-2006, 09:24 PM
I've noticed every time I open cuteFTP and browse over to enhancements/varhack the rbautch file isn't there. Is this normal, it seems to be disappearing.

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 09:25 PM
not normal at all
how did you tansfer it binary or ascii? use binary

2500
03-26-2006, 09:26 PM
ok make sure tweak.sh and teh rbautch.tgz file are in the same directory and try again or,
to make it super easy, remove the /enhancements directory altogether with rm -r /enhancements and rezipper.

You mean pull the drive and put in PC right ?

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 09:28 PM
yes

2500
03-26-2006, 09:37 PM
Ok all of the files are in /hacks and I deleted /enhancements. I went ahead and transferred rbautch to /hacks and it's running the set up now. Is this stuff in the proper place or should it be moved ?

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 09:40 PM
if you put everything in /hacks and executed tweak.sh you did it correctly

2500
03-26-2006, 09:53 PM
Do you know why those files would be deleted ?

Thanks for the help guys and oh Gunny you have changed my 1st impression of you from over at DD where you called me an idiot :)

Gunnyman
03-26-2006, 10:14 PM
wasn't calling you out specifically we get lots of em :p
What you have to understand is I get PM's from people complaining that the zipper even exists.
So ANY mention of it REALLY gets me ticked.
Sorry to dis you like that.

Draven X. Byrne
03-26-2006, 11:16 PM
Can someone explain to me how breaking into your TiVo and running a script that disables encryption that allows you to do MRV is not theft of service? I mean someone encrypted the stream for a reason...

For the same reason that you have 3 non-stock TiVo's yourself. . . .

TiVo allows info like this to exist to keep the community happy and away from more important things like theft of service etc.

Some postulate that is the main reason why they've allways been aware and allow the hacking community to exist.

Look at DirecTV as a HW manufacturer that locks you out of the kingdom (can't upgrade HD's on their DVR's now can you) ;)

Just my $0.02 . . . .

You're entitled to your opinion as well - just if it doesn't pertain to the zipper get the crap outta this thread :D

DXB

2500
03-26-2006, 11:35 PM
After running through and answering the ? and rebooting now I can't get any connection, no FTP,no telnet. What have I done now ?

rbautch
03-26-2006, 11:37 PM
Check the troubleshooting tips in the Zipper Wikki.