DirecTV Forum... Monitored...

[ebonovic]

forums.directv.com

Got this email today:

Hello ebonovic,

First, we’d like to welcome you to the DIRECTV Technical Help Forums and thank you for sharing your expertise with the rest of the community.



But, you might have noticed over the past few days that some of your posts were edited or taken down. We wanted to inform you that we had to remove or edit your recent post due to objectionable content. As posted online in our Terms and Conditions:



Be honest. When talking online with other community members, please refrain from random bashing or unfair comments or statements that you don’t believe are true. Your opinions are respected by your peers and can impact their thoughts and actions. Please don't post about "hacked" DIRECTV System cards, receivers or DIRECTV DVRs. DIRECTV does not support modifying the hardware or software of your DIRECTV System, so no discussions of opening the receiver or other types of modifications should be discussed in our forums. Posts of this nature may be removed.



Below is a post we edited to give you an example of posts that we will edit/remove:


-) The "Phone" line connection method is no longer used by DirecTV to provide the Guide Data and ShowCase data. It comes via the the SAT signal.
-) The "Phone" line requirement is really only enforced when you are first activating the unit, after that you can use the box successfully (though be it with a daily nag screen).
-) The phone lines are currently used to "trigger" software installations (that are downloaded via the SAT), upload PPV data, and View habit data. They are also used to enforce mirroring restrictions, but it has been a long time since I have heard of someone being bit by that.
-) The USB ports are primarily not active, as DTV is afraid of the content creators and distributors, people having the "possibility" of networkable access to the "digital" versions of the programs...
See: www.tivocommunity.com for much more information on what you can do with those USB ports, and options for using the DTivo without a phoneline.

Sincerely,

DIRECTV Forum Support


The section in red was removed from the post...

Oh well... guess it crossed line regarding "hacking"

[Guindalf]

forums.directv.com

Got this email today:


The section in red was removed from the post...

Oh well... guess it crossed line regarding "hacking"


Well, Earl, let's be honest here....It was only a matter of time before you upset someone! :D

[Edmund]

They said they weren't going to say anything. :)

[edrock200]

you silly lunix hackers ;)

[ChrisWyso]

I think it had more to do with kicking them in the balls about the USB ports and calling D* " 'fraidy cats " of the content people. ;)

I, for one, LOVE IT!!!

[darthrsg]

stickittodamaninitis

[ebonovic]

:)

It is not like I am lying or saying anything wrong....
Guess they don't want their forum providing... ALL the answers :D

No biggie...

Just thought it was intresting through...

Less then a week... not too bad...

[edrock200]

ebonovic: your helpful nature is not welcome at DirecTV!!! ;)

[TeeSee]

:) It is not like I am lyingAh, but you were. They told you so. ;)

[Gunnyman]

strangely enough my post linking my HMO howto page still exists

[Thespis]

That's because they don't understand a word of it...

[peteypete]

Maybe they didn't like your reference to tivo.

[litzdog911]

You're not alone ....
I tried answering a question at the DirecTV Forum where someone was asking about operating their DirecTV Receiver using a 12V DC supply. I tried to post a response with a link to a Radio Shack voltage inverter, and the word "Shack" was flagged as offensive!?! Does DirecTV have something against Radio Shack, or is there some new slang usage of the word "shack" that I'm not aware of?

[dswallow]

You're not alone ....
I tried answering a question at the DirecTV Forum where someone was asking about operating their DirecTV Receiver using a 12V DC supply. I tried to post a response with a link to a Radio Shack voltage inverter, and the word "Shack" was flagged as offensive!?! Does DirecTV have something against Radio Shack, or is there some new slang usage of the word "shack" that I'm not aware of?
Maybe there's an S-Hack? ;)

[litzdog911]

Maybe there's an S-Hack? ;)

Well, I got around it by mispelling it as "Shacck". Crazy.

[Guindalf]

Well, I got around it by mispelling it as "Shacck". Crazy.


That ad with SHAQ is offensive - perhaps that's why? ;)

[Billy Bob Boy]

Earl You Da Man. :) Stick it to em. Keep coming here to show us what the y take out. ;) Show them up for the chicken Sh*&'s that they are. What are they afraid of? The truth hurts. :D Btw Can you link me there so I can posts some truths!! In fact lets all give those ^&^%%$#$ censors some real work to delete! :rolleyes: :up:

[SteelersFan]

Earl You Da Man. :) Stick it to em. Keep coming here to show us what the y take out. ;) Show them up for the chicken Sh*&'s that they are. What are they afraid of? The truth hurts. :D Btw Can you link me there so I can posts some truths!! In fact lets all give those ^&^%%$#$ censors some real work to delete! :rolleyes: :up:
http://forums.directv.com/pe/index.jsp

[Billy Bob Boy]

Tanks. I thought it was a general D* forum for chit chat. Of course they dont want outsiders coming in and giving Tech advice. They want to be in control. Do not attempt to adjust this forum.We control the horizontal. We control the vertical. Join us here each week when the control voice takes you to " The Directv Limits"!

[herdfan]

Well, Earl, let's be honest here....It was only a matter of time before you upset someone! :D
Lest you forget Earl was the one that discovered the HMO files on his R10. We all know they weren't happy about that. :D

[ebonovic]

Oh yah... I forgot about that....

An exact copy of that R10 screen posting, made it around in the DirecTV email system.... :)

Ooops... :) Guess I am blacklisted...

Again... pointing out that: Non-DirecTV employees should be doing the Beta testing....
Or at least be PART of the beta testing.

[Kevin L]

Well, I got around it by mispelling it as "Shacck". Crazy.That's the problem. They must search for HACK, so any variation of it causes the message to be flagged.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Actually, if you read the ToS on that board, it says somewhere that this is a place for experts like Earl, etc to answer peoples questions. Not D* employees.

[wmcbrine]

Don't forget, the same thing happens here -- it's even been automated. Viz:

http://************.com/forum/

[fredfillis]

strangely enough my post linking my HMO howto page still exists

Prolly thought HMO was a typo. They don't want to know about any homo how-to's.

You know they have a "don't ask - don't tell" policy over there.

[Dan Collins]

You're not alone ....
I tried answering a question at the DirecTV Forum where someone was asking about operating their DirecTV Receiver using a 12V DC supply. I tried to post a response with a link to a Radio Shack voltage inverter, and the word "Shack" was flagged as offensive!?! Does DirecTV have something against Radio Shack, or is there some new slang usage of the word "shack" that I'm not aware of?There was a pirate's website that was called "Sat Shack" a while back. I don't know if its still around, but that might be the cause.

[magnus]

Well I added my two cents to your post on D's site. Go check it out when you have time. I would really like the 'official' word on why they will not active the usb ports to be able to use HMO etc... I'm sure they will just remove the post or change it but it would be noce to know why they have such a problem with it.

forums.directv.com

Got this email today:


The section in red was removed from the post...

Oh well... guess it crossed line regarding "hacking"

[bryanbna]

You're not alone ....
I tried answering a question at the DirecTV Forum where someone was asking about operating their DirecTV Receiver using a 12V DC supply. I tried to post a response with a link to a Radio Shack voltage inverter, and the word "Shack" was flagged as offensive!?! Does DirecTV have something against Radio Shack, or is there some new slang usage of the word "shack" that I'm not aware of?


It could be that R-Shacck doesnt sell D* equipment anymore. :D

[hancox]

Don't forget, the same thing happens here -- it's even been automated. Viz:

http://************.com/forum/


Bingo! Glass house, meet rock. AVSForum too

[litzdog911]

I feel so special!

http://forums.directv.com/pe/profile/publicprofile.jsp?memberID=10102731

The day after DirecTV asked me to participate in this, they editted my standard hard drive replacement messages because "Discussions of networking or opening up the Tivo is against the Terms and Conditions of the Forums, but we appreciate the thorough and helpful suggestions you have been offering in the community."

[Edmund]

Yes, I got an offer yesterday to join too. That wanted a photo, I'm shy though.:)

litzdog your first 5 star rating came from me, I wanted to see if anyone could rate a post, or just the person being helped.:)

[litzdog911]

Yes, I got an offer yesterday to join too. That wanted a photo, I'm shy though.:)

litzdog your first 5 star rating came from me, I wanted to see if anyone could rate a post, or just the person being helped.:)

I was surprised by the invite because it doesn't seem like anybody rates posts. But obviously someone in DirecTV is watching their forum closely, both for frequent contributors, and for "inappropriate" answers.

[Edmund]

I received two 5-Star ratings and a 1 star, which I guess averages out 3 star over all rating.

[ebonovic]

Hmm... They must not like me :)

Litz, can you put a good word in for me?

[ebonovic]

Just tried replying to another message:


The body of the item you recently submitted contains text that violates site guidelines. If you wish to submit the item, please revise the wording.
Reboot your unit. The R10s do something during their first week, that causes an internal loop (at least that is our best guess)... A reboot fixed it for both of my R10s, I know over 8 months on my R10s with no problems.


The word "loop" was being filtered... so I changed it to internal-loop

[dswallow]

The word "loop" was being filtered... so I changed it to internal-loop
As in looping access cards. Hacking.

[ebonovic]

As in looping access cards. Hacking.

Gosh... it has been so long since I thought about that term...
That got rid of that what, 3 years ago now? When did they turn the HU stream off...

Oh well... go figure.

[litzdog911]

Hmm... They must not like me :)

Litz, can you put a good word in for me?

Gladly! It's kind of creepy being their only "TechKnow Guide" !

[Guindalf]

Gladly! It's kind of creepy being their only "TechKnow Guide" !

"Scary" is the word I'd use!!! :D ;)


Well, it is almost Halloween. :rolleyes:

[greywolf]

I tried doing a rating too but couldn't get it to work. It's a javascript problem I've has for a while. I think the stuff that keeps bombing Earl is all automated.

[JWThiers]

Just tried replying to another message:



The word "loop" was being filtered... so I changed it to internal-loop
So you can't say something like "that really threw me for a loop" or "Loop the excess cable behind your entertainment center", talk about paranoid.

[EricG]

I didn't even know that DirecTV HAD forums!

How'd I miss THAT???

[Guindalf]

I didn't even know that DirecTV HAD forums!

How'd I miss THAT???


Er, you were lucky????

[greywolf]

A lot of the questions are easy to answer because most of the questioners are not hobbyists and most quandries are basic. On the other hand, they might have difficulty understanding the answer.

[moxie1617]

I didn't even know that DirecTV HAD forums!

How'd I miss THAT???

I missed that too. I feel lucky enough to go out and buy a lottery ticket.

[greywolf]

The automatic monitor doesn't allow the word "garbage" either.

[litzdog911]

The automatic monitor doesn't allow the word "garbage" either.

Crazy.

What do you think of their forum software? Personally I'm getting frustrated with it. It's a pain to follow threads, and you're limited to just a few replies per thread. Not very good forum software IMHO.

[greywolf]

It's really bad. The only thing that makes it workable is the paucity of questions.

[SteelersFan]

Hey Earl! I nominated you over there and got this email back from them:

Thanks for the nomination! We'll take this into consideration in deciding future TechKnow Guides.

Sincerely,
DIRECTV Forum Support

[Edmund]

Say hello to the new TechKnow Guide. Tivoburkee, me.:)

[ebonovic]

Hey Earl! I nominated you over there and got this email back from them:

Thanks for the nomination! We'll take this into consideration in deciding future TechKnow Guides.

Sincerely,
DIRECTV Forum Support

Well thank you.... I await the invite email...
I appriciate it.

[Edmund]

They only add one TechKnow Guide a week.

[greywolf]

I've noticed some posts that may have a negative direction to them or outside of DirecTV involvement no longer have reply buttons on them. It's sort of an ineffective locking since a reply to any post in the thread is treated the same way.

[kryte98371]

I know why "shack" was banned. Love shack! Baby, love shack! :D

[litzdog911]

I've noticed some posts that may have a negative direction to them or outside of DirecTV involvement no longer have reply buttons on them. It's sort of an ineffective locking since a reply to any post in the thread is treated the same way.

I thought this was just a limitation of their forum software. It seems to happen no matter what the thread topic is discussing.

[greywolf]

For example, I had a question today about how to add an OTA antenna with a 5x8 multiswitch following as a followup to how a 3x4 won't work for HD programming. The only reason I can see for why it was the only post in the thread not to have a reply button is that it was outside of D*'s programming.

[ebonovic]

Have we seen a DirecTV employee, reply to a thread yet over there?

[greywolf]

It supposed to be a user helping user forum. I haven't seen anyone identify himself as a D* employee.

[newsposter]

ditto that I never knew there was a forum. I guess if you guys got censored no way will I head over there. I'd take it personally or something.

[ebonovic]

Funny... the word: recall is filtered out as well.... has anyone found a list of the words that are filtered out?

[JWThiers]

Funny... the word: recall is filtered out as well.... has anyone found a list of the words that are filtered out?
I can't recall, that really thuew me for a loop. When I get back to my shack I'll see.

[ebonovic]

Nice... very nice... :D

[newsposter]

Have you tried words such as (sucks, bites, bytes, stinks, whack, prickly, incompetent, censorship)?

[JWThiers]

Nice... very nice... :D
You had to know it was coming. When a big fat shot like that opens up you just gotta take it.

[ebonovic]

Well... here is another word: crap as in crap shot so it turned into crap-shot...

Aka... "Connecting via Vonage is a crap shot at best"

Question: Has anyone figured out how to to a line brake in the forum software? I am tired of my longer replys having to be one big run on paragraph.

[marrone]

How about dish, echostar, charlie?

-Mike

[JediKnight2]

Two things...I understand that hacking their security measure, aka card, is wrong and shouldnt be talked about over there. BUT SECOND...the hardware..BELONGS TO ME...I BOUGHT IT...I PAID FOR IT...ITS MINE so if I want to pull the drive and slap in a peanutbutter sandwich, THATS MY BUSINESS!!

[SteelersFan]

In my best Homer Simpson:
Mmmmm, peanut butter.

[greywolf]

Another dirty word I ran into today is "emulation".

[litzdog911]

...
Question: Has anyone figured out how to to a line brake in the forum software? I am tired of my longer replys having to be one big run on paragraph.

Nope. I agree it's ugly. And I haven't found a work around. It just ignores paragraphs. Crappy forum software. There, I said "crappy" :)

[litzdog911]

Two things...I understand that hacking their security measure, aka card, is wrong and shouldnt be talked about over there. BUT SECOND...the hardware..BELONGS TO ME...I BOUGHT IT...I PAID FOR IT...ITS MINE so if I want to pull the drive and slap in a peanutbutter sandwich, THATS MY BUSINESS!!

True. But it's DirecTV's Forum, so they get to make the rules. Tivo Community Forum has rules, too.

[dswallow]

Question: Has anyone figured out how to to a line brake in the forum software? I am tired of my longer replys having to be one big run on paragraph.
A separate post for every paragraph should work, right?

[greywolf]

I just put a line in with a hyphen.

[ebonovic]

Now they have gone and done it...
They made me a Tech-Know guy...... :)

[Edmund]

Now they have gone and done it...
They made me a Tech-Know guy...... :)

Congratulations ebonovic.:)

[litzdog911]

Now they have gone and done it...
They made me a Tech-Know guy...... :)

Finally! Congratulations, Earl :D

[litzdog911]

By the way, don't using the word "glitching" in the DirecTV Forum :eek:

[Tim32672]

Now they have gone and done it...
They made me a Tech-Know guy...... :)

could have been the 5 stars I gave ya the other day..... :rolleyes:

[Lee L]

I think glitching was a hacker term at one point.

Way to go Earl. Now, it will be interesting to see if they actually let you post anything helpfull. ;)

[newsposter]

Is football a banned term too? :) What a 'loaded' question...oops

[greywolf]

There have been a number of posts there about phone calls to D* being disconnected abruptly. Has anybody noticed a problem.

[69800]

If D has this many people on the payroll just to monitor every single word Earl is saying about their stuff.... they are headed for mega corporatedom which is always the beginning of the end. I predict sooner than later you will not be able to get anyone but a machine on the phone...... During the Second World War there were 45000 members of the Gestapo.

Earl can say ANYTHING.. as long as it is nice and happy and glowing.

heh heh

Mark

[ebonovic]

:) Most of it is automated... And with the "high" [sarcasim off] volume of posts over there, one can go through ever new post in about 20 minutes tops.

[greywolf]

Well, I find myself spending far too much time over there. I wish they could highlight new posts and indicate which threads I've participated in.

[Edmund]

I got an email saying i'm receiving a gift tomorrow by FedEx for being a Techknow Guide, I wonder what it'll be? I hope it isn't a white remote.:(

[SpacemanSpiff]

Maybe you get a nice shiny R15!!! :D

[ebonovic]

Really?

I didn't get an email saying that... :(

Guess they don't like me any more...

[SpacemanSpiff]

They've had to censor you too many times. :p

[Edmund]

Maybe you get a nice shiny R15!!! :D

One can only hope. :D

[ebonovic]

Check that.... The email just came in....

I guess we will wait and see....

[dswallow]

Check that.... The email just came in....

I guess we will wait and see....
Merry New Year.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Maybe it's a H20-250.....

[ebonovic]

OOHHHH.... Ahhhhh that would be nice... since I have an H20 sitting in box that I have to get hooked up...

[SpacemanSpiff]

I hadn't been there for a while, I went back and read a few threads. It's pretty sad when the best advice you can give anyone who posts there to come here or the R15 board.


After I posted that I read it and it sounded negative and harsh towards the TechKnow Guides and that's not how it was meant.

More precisely the best advice anyone on those boards can receive is to come here or the R15 board.

[tbeckner]

OOHHHH.... Ahhhhh that would be nice... since I have an H20 sitting in box that I have to get hooked up...So how did you get a HR20-250 before they where released. Did your review of the R15 get you inside the inner circle? Did you have someone steal one for you? If you are a beta tester, why would you let people know that you have one? Doesn't the NDA forbid you from even disclosing that you have one?

Okay, ebonovic, give up the goods.

[greywolf]

I only got my DirecTV news for January. There hasn't been a new Guide in a while. How many are there?

Earl said H20, not HR20-250.

[tbeckner]

I only got my DirecTV news for January. There hasn't been a new Guide in a while. How many are there?

Earl said H20, not HR20-250.So, is a H20 just a standard HD capable DirecTV receiver? That does not make much sense. Why would one of the DVR kings buy a HD capable receiver? Can he really have that many TVs?

[greywolf]

To get Ka band signals. It's the only box that does.

[tbeckner]

To get Ka band signals. It's the only box that does.I understand that the H20 will allow viewing of new MPEG4 HD signals from the new feeds including the Distance Network Signals from NY and LA, which is likely the reason the earl bought a H20. I guess not being on the forum for a couple of days can leave someone behind the latest news.

Sorry, Earl and thanks Greywolf.

[SeattleCarl]

Wow. Serves me right for declining the opportunity to be a TechKnow Guy. Oh well...
-
Carl

[tbeckner]

Wow. Serves me right for declining the opportunity to be a TechKnow Guy. Oh well...
-
CarlSo are we lead to believe that since Earl is a "TechKnow Guy" that DirecTV is going to send him all of their new toys to play with?

Now that could be both a blessing and a curse.

[ebonovic]

So are we lead to believe that since Earl is a "TechKnow Guy" that DirecTV is going to send him all of their new toys to play with?

Now that could be both a blessing and a curse.


Ouch... that hurt...

Nah, I got an H20 so I can check out the differences between OTA and the MPEG4 signals here in chicago...

but really... Ouch... that hurt....
I thought I have always been fair and have tried to represent things as fairly as possible...

[walking away with tail between my legs] sniff

[SpacemanSpiff]

I took that as a blessing or curse for you being stuck with the new toys.

[tbeckner]

Ouch... that hurt...

Nah, I got an H20 so I can check out the differences between OTA and the MPEG4 signals here in chicago...

but really... Ouch... that hurt....
I thought I have always been fair and have tried to represent things as fairly as possible...

[walking away with tail between my legs] sniffWasn't meant to hurt. If they did send you new toys then they would what something in return and that is the part that could hurt.

So, you are saying that the H20 can do OTA HD, or are you going to compare the picture on the H20 to the HR10-250 or another OTA receiver.

[dswallow]

Wasn't meant to hurt. If they did send you new toys then they would what something in return and that is the part that could hurt.

So, you are saying that the H20 can do OTA HD, or are you going to compare the picture on the H20 to the HR10-250 or another OTA receiver.
Yeah, I guess a fair and unbiased review is something they wouldn't want.

[ebonovic]

Wasn't meant to hurt. If they did send you new toys then they would what something in return and that is the part that could hurt.

So, you are saying that the H20 can do OTA HD, or are you going to compare the picture on the H20 to the HR10-250 or another OTA receiver.


Okay... I understand now... been another bad day on the forums...
No feelings hurt (I kinda figured it was a joke anyway).

I was planning to compare the H20 MPEG-4 locals with both the OTA signals I recieve (and I just checked the manual, it can get Off-Air channels), and the corresonding MPEG-2 DNS feeds.

I just need to get the new dish now... :)

FYI: It is is getting kinda painfull... My wife keeps asking... how many new toys are you going to get...

:D

[ebonovic]

Check that...
The manual for the H20 says... Off-Air broadcast.
But it doesn't specifically say Digital Off-Air broadcasts, or that it will decode OTA HD

Guess I am going to have to wait till I activate it to check it out....

[greywolf]

It has an ATSC tuner but no NTSC. The H20-600 has the LG 5th generation ATSC tuner in fact.

[Edmund]

The gift came, there were two very heavy bobble-head dolls, one of Peyton Manning the other of Brett Favre. Along with a necktie, in its pattern is written "ESPN HD ESPN2". They're giving me 3 months free of the HD package, which I don't subscribe to. I'm am very appreciative of these gifts. :)

[SpacemanSpiff]

In other words..... Leftover NFL Sunday Ticket Spiffs. ;)

[ebonovic]

Hmm... a nice size firecracker in the Brett Favre bobble-head doll will be cool...

Go Bears... :D

hey a gift is a gift...

[Guindalf]

Hmm... a nice size firecracker in the Brett Favre bobble-head doll will be cool...

Go Bears... :D


After his performance this season, the only place for the firecracker is up his........ooops, no, that's cruel! :p

(and no, I'm not a Packers fan)


Go Steelers!!

[litzdog911]

My DirecTV TechnoGuide gifts were indeed a pleasant surprise ....

Brett Favre bobblehead doll
Peyton Manning bobblehead doll
Napolean Dynamite chapstick
Black "Italian Job" Tshirt
3-mos free HDTV package

[ebonovic]

Trade ya "Italian Job" for "Tony Hawk"....

I did get a cool Showtime mug though..

[SteelersFan]

Go Steelers!!
I'll second that!!! :D

[greywolf]

I don't remember giving my address or real name when I signed up. How do they know where to send the stuff?

[ebonovic]

I don't remember giving my address or real name when I signed up. How do they know where to send the stuff?

Probably cross referenced to the billing system.
Maybe they used an email address...

[SpacemanSpiff]

They had the NSA look you up? :D

[greywolf]

Maybe I didn't get my gift because I used a temporary e-mail address when I signed up for Guide.

[ebonovic]

:) See... being sneeky cost you some cool bobbleheads...

I had to give the Brett one to my neighboor, it was too nice of quality to blow up...

Anyone a Payton fan?

[Jim Abbett]

Manning? Yes Sir!

[ebonovic]

Manning? Yes Sir!
Yep... check your PM..

[crkeehn]

Thanks for letting us peasants ;-D know what the goodies were. It sounds like someone was ordered to clean out a closet at Directv

Have a good New Year Y'all

[ebonovic]

Anyone wanting to send me free stuff... even if it is just clearing out the closet... fine by me... so long as it isn't "nasty"... and that Brett Favre bobble was boarderline... :)

[s_rath_lp]

Greetings. I am one of the unfortunate souls that didn't properly research before I bought an upgraded R10 from weaknees. I can't return it, the only option they will give is to sell me a DSR 7000 shell for $35 that I can put my card and drive in.
If I understand correctly, the DSR 7000 is a Series 2 upgradeable w/ Zipper. I was looking around for a DVR80 shell but couldn't find one. Is there a difference? Any other options out there?

Thanks

[ebonovic]

There is no real differnce betweent he DSR700 and the DVR80...

[s_rath_lp]

There is no real differnce betweent he DSR700 and the DVR80...

Thanks! I ordered a DSR7000 shell. Now I only have to wait for the new unit's arrival before I can unlock the power!

BTW, thanks for all the help you've given people in this forum. I have spent hours looking over the info that has been posted, your availability is impressive.

Steve

[chrpai]

I got an SD-DVR80 "shell" lying around.... who wants it and whats it worth?

[ebonovic]

Thanks! I ordered a DSR7000 shell. Now I only have to wait for the new unit's arrival before I can unlock the power!

BTW, thanks for all the help you've given people in this forum. I have spent hours looking over the info that has been posted, your availability is impressive.

Steve


Thanks... Just giving back all the info that I have learned here over the years...

[tbeckner]

Thanks... Just giving back all the info that I have learned here over the years...Earl,
You did a good service!

[greywolf]

Anyone wanting to send me free stuff... even if it is just clearing out the closet... fine by me... so long as it isn't "nasty"... and that Brett Favre bobble was boarderline... :)I finally got my stuff today. The letter was nice. The 3 months of free HD program package was better. What were they thinking sending Brett Favre dolls to the Chicago area? My wife liked the clock. She's obviously easy to please though. ;)