Days of Our Lives - rants, spoilers, laughs

[JYoung]

Daniel's been with Chelsea, too. She's also a Horton.



No, not biologically.
With Bo as her father and Billie as her mother, I don't see any Horton in there (Curtis Reed would be her grandfather.)

She is part Kiriakis so if Victor is the biological father of Daniel.......
Uhm, ewwwww.

Just how old is Daniel supposed to be though?
You can't tell from the women he dates.
Kate.
Chelsea.
Chloe.
Jennifer.

Age range, his choices in women are all over the place.
Maybe he'll start dating Caroline next.

[nirisahn]

No, not biologically.
With Bo as her father and Billie as her mother, I don't see any Horton in there (Curtis Reed would be her grandfather.)

True. That's what I get for answering in a hurry from work. I forgot Hope's not her mother.

She is part Kiriakis so if Victor is the biological father of Daniel.......
Uhm, ewwwww.
Ewwwww is right.
Just how old is Daniel supposed to be though?
You can't tell from the women he dates.
Kate.
Chelsea.
Chloe.
Jennifer.

Age range, his choices in women are all over the place.
Maybe he'll start dating Caroline next.

Looking at him and knowing he has a daughter that's around 20ish, I'm thinking 40s. Technically, Maggie is old enough to be his mother, but it depends on when the eggs were stolen and used. I was thinking it would have been after Melissa was practically grown up and we're talking about someone who's approximately 20-25 years old. Then again, they age people so weirdly in soaps, who knows.

[DancnDude]

Still following this thread even though I have not watched in ages. Still can recognize most of the characters here. It kinda makes me chuckle seeing you guys discuss the DOOL "family tree" and thinking you guys perhaps know more about these character's relationships than I do some of my own family tree ;)

[nirisahn]

I've been watching Days since 1978. I'd never watched soaps before (except Dark Shadows which doesn't count), but I was living someplace that got only 2 channels - NBC and a local channel. I worked evenings, so all there was to watch during the day were soaps - The Doctors, Another World, and Days of Our Lives. I've seen these people everyday for 33 years. I can't say the same for my family since we haven't lived in the same state since 1974. I guess I do know a little too much about the goings on in the fictional town of Salem.

[Peter000]

She is part Kiriakis so if Victor is the biological father of Daniel.......
Uhm, ewwwww.

Why would Victor be the biological father of Daniel?

But if he is, more of an "ew" factor would be the Melanie married (and copulated numerous times with) her uncle.

[JYoung]

Why would Victor be the biological father of Daniel?

But if he is, more of an "ew" factor would be the Melanie married (and copulated numerous times with) her uncle.

Sorry, I was just wildly speculating here.
Which isn't too different from the Days writers sometimes as I suspect that sometimes, they do it when actually writing the scripts.

So we have a Horton/DiMera Child out there too?

[cwoody222]

I wish someone would tell Kate that she looks absolutely ridiculous with that blue streak / feather thing in her hair.

[cwoody222]

I know it's just for drama and just a soap opera but I wish the writers would realize that the anonymous gambling hackers coming after the boys with guns makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

What good would it do to kill them as a method to make future hacker victims scared since they try to remain anonymous?

What good would it do to kill them to bring attention to the gambling?

What good would it do to kill them to get them to reopen the website?

Makes. No. Sense.

[Peter000]

I know it's just for drama and just a soap opera but I wish the writers would realize that the anonymous gambling hackers coming after the boys with guns makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

What good would it do to kill them as a method to make future hacker victims scared since they try to remain anonymous?

What good would it do to kill them to bring attention to the gambling?

What good would it do to kill them to get them to reopen the website?

Makes. No. Sense.

I think they realize, but just don't care.

[nirisahn]

This is Days. Over the years they've had possession by demons, people coming back from the dead, mad scientists in basements, inconsistent story lines, rapists turned hero, multiple characters (both male and female) that all look alike (Susan Barns, et al), bastard children that appear out of nowhere, stolen embryos, and who knows what all else. Do you really think they care about whether or not a storyline makes sense?

[JYoung]

I know it's just for drama and just a soap opera but I wish the writers would realize that the anonymous gambling hackers coming after the boys with guns makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

What good would it do to kill them as a method to make future hacker victims scared since they try to remain anonymous?

What good would it do to kill them to bring attention to the gambling?

What good would it do to kill them to get them to reopen the website?

Makes. No. Sense.

Let me guess, you also watch Glee and expect it to make sense as well.



;)

BTW, obviously evil captor #1 didn't check to see how Stefano reacted to Tony getting killed.

[JYoung]

Oh Abigail.
Didn't you learn your lesson after mooning over Max Brady?

[Peter000]

So with Kayla back, will Stephanie be far behind? Or Steve, though it seems like from what was implied, Kayla and he are on the outs.

[JYoung]

So with Kayla back, will Stephanie be far behind? Or Steve, though it seems like from what was implied, Kayla and he are on the outs.

Stephen Nichols is currently on The Young and the Restless so I think not.

Stephanie, well after they way Shelly Henning just disappeared, who knows?
(Although I would not be adverse to them bringing back Shayna Rose. Maybe she can start lusting after Chad too.)

[JYoung]

Seriously, a key is hidden in the plaque, which was made up after Alice died?

Also, what's the over/under on Madison already being married to someone else?

[Kawaiichan72]

Ok, so I was totally expecting Will to tell Marlena that he's gay. Instead we have a repeat of the Sami saw marlena and John thing? Really? I need a bigger TiVo HdD if I'm going to stay on top of this while I'm off to grad school.
Side note: any bets on whether Carrie will cheat on Austin with Rafe?

[JYoung]

Yeah, sorry.

I just don't see Carrie and Rafe suddenly making out.
They have ZERO chemistry.

[cwoody222]

I watch in the morning while getting ready for work so I usually stop paying attention towards the end as I'm running to get out the door.

But I caught the making out today and had to rewind to make sure I really saw what I thought because it was so absurd!

[nirisahn]

Agreed. I think they're forcing plot lines just for the sake of creating tension, and not paying attention to who the characters are and how logical the plot line is (typical DOOL when they run out of ideas). And you're right - there's just no chemistry between those two. It was like watching a bad high school play.

Edit: Just watched today's episode. the writers are are nuts. Sammy goes ballistic over Rafe kissing Carrie 5 minutes after she just made excuses to Will about EJ? She throws him out and won't even let the guy talk? Wait til he finds out about EJ!

[JYoung]

Well of course Sammy's being a hypocrite.
That's actually consistent with Sammy's character.

I just want to know when they replaced Abigail with Glenn Close.

[cwoody222]

Alamania? Really?

They do employ paid, professional writers, right? Or maybe just interns?

Alamania. Way to phone it in.

[nirisahn]

Alamania? Really?

They do employ paid, professional writers, right? Or maybe just interns?

Alamania. Way to phone it in.Isn't that where Laurence Alamain is from? ;)

[JYoung]

And wasn't John raised as "Forrest Alamain"?

[JYoung]

Abigail, get over yourself.

Lexie, get over yourself.

[JYoung]

Since I was right about Madison being married, I'll make another prediction and say that Ian is really the biological father of Lucas, not Bill Horton.

[cwoody222]

Since I was right about Madison being married, I'll make another prediction and say that Ian is really the biological father of Lucas, not Bill Horton.

Whoa, that would be shocking!

Is Lucas supposed to be sticking around awhile? I was surprised to see him return, I hadn't heard about that before it happened.

[JYoung]

I don't know but I've always like Lucas and Sammy together,

He's one of the few people who Sammy will actually listen to when they call her on her crap.

[nirisahn]

I've always liked Lucas and Sammy together, too. Partially because he is about the only one who she listens too, and partly because they just seem to have really good chemistry. I think it's because the guy who plays Lucas always has a twinkle in his eye and doesn't seem to take himself too seriously. There's just something him that I've always liked.

[cwoody222]

I must have missed the news that Billie was returning. I love Lisa Rinna. But the writers seem to always completely screw up when she returns to Salem - regardless of the actress. I hope they do better this time.

[JYoung]

Pretty obvious that she's had work done.
I thought her face was going to crack when she smiled.

[Peter000]

Pretty obvious that she's had work done.
I thought her face was going to crack when she smiled.

Like mother like daughter. Billie and Kate probably have used 90% of Salem's Botox reserves.

[cwoody222]

I skipped Mon-Thurs last week while out of town. Jumped right back in to Fri & Mon barely missing a beat.

I realize it's ONLY 4 days but sheesh, did anything noteworthy happen last week?

I think the biggest thing was Hope & John are suddenly captured but I really don't care how.

[cwoody222]

Oh, and Billie is a secret agent *again*? Didn't they learn from last time they made her a cop / agent / crime-fighter?

Just let her sell her cosmetics and we'll all be a lot happier. We don't need everyone in Salem to be fighting bad guys.

[nirisahn]

Did you see that Abby fessed up that she lied? that's probably the only biggie you missed.

[cwoody222]

Yep, I came into that mid-way, I think but yes, got that.

The only story I'm watching really closely is Will's and now I see Kate's figured things out (I suspect EJ has too) and now Will has admitted to Marlena he didn't just kiss that boy due to alcohol.

[SoBelle0]

I haven't watched this show in over a year - maybe two - and decided to jump back in.
How hilarious that Stefano has Hope and John in a cell! Well, not funny for them, but I feel like I've seen that before...

There are a few new faces that I'm not too sure about, so I'll have to read up here and on a wiki or something. Crazy peoples!!

Has Austin had as much surgery as Kate and Billie? GoodNESS!! He looks bad.

[JYoung]

Like mother like daughter. Billie and Kate probably have used 90% of Salem's Botox reserves.

This is why Kate's nostrils flare so much.


Will they just let the Carrie/Rafe thing die already.
Carrie/Rafe has to be the worst couple since Mickey Horton and Bonnie Lockhart.

[cwoody222]

Who is that awful new actress playing Celeste?!

[nirisahn]

I don't know. I wish they could have gotten the original Celeste. Or at least someone who could do the accent and play emotions more subtlety. The original Celeste was very believable and had good chemistry with Lexie. This one stinks.

[JYoung]

No one cares about Carrie/Rafe.

[cwoody222]

I don't know what's more annoying... how the character of Carrie is acting while trapped in the cabin due to the bomb or the actress' horrible acting.

[cwoody222]

I must not have been paying attention. What was found that showed EJ was not Stefano's son? And who is his father, then?

[nirisahn]

We don't know who his father is, but the proof that Elvis is not Stefano's son was in the envelope from the safe deposit box.

[cwoody222]

So I guess I didn't miss much! :)

Did we even see the "proof" or was it just a shocking piece of paper? Where did this envelope even come from? Why was it suddenly new news?

[nirisahn]

So I guess I didn't miss much! :)

Did we even see the "proof" or was it just a shocking piece of paper? Where did this envelope even come from? Why was it suddenly new news?The envelope was the the secret that Mrs. Horton had that was in the safe deposit box with the John & Hope's marriage license from Alemania (sp?).

[cwoody222]

Oh wow, I totally missed the connection on that - thanks.

Although wouldn't Stefano have always known the truth then?... since they were blackmailing each other. Alice would have agreed to keep EJ's paternity a secret in return for Stefano keeping John & Hope's marriage a secret.

So why did Stefano act surprised and turn EJ away if he knew all this time?

[nirisahn]

I don't think that was the arrangement. I think neither of them knew what the other one had. But if they didn't, I don't know how the arrangement could have worked. I'll keep your unknown secret if you don't tell my unknown secret? Then again, this is soap opera land.

[JYoung]

I don't know what's more annoying... how the character of Carrie is acting while trapped in the cabin due to the bomb or the actress' horrible acting.

She can't sell me that she really loves Rafe (maybe the actress realizes that they have no chemistry) so this whole "leaving Austin right now" thing makes her come across as despicable.

And I actually liked her character back when she was fighting Sammy for Austin.

And Rafe just comes across as "duh, I love you Carrie. Derrrrr. Which way did he go, George?"

Like I said, horrible matchup.

[JYoung]

What's the over/under on Stefano really being dead?

[nirisahn]

I don't know. I've seen nothing in the grapevine about it whereas Lexi's death (because Renee wants to retire from show business) was announced months in advance. I can't believe that a character as central to the show as Stefano would be killed off once and for all with no buzz about it ahead of time. I just can't believe he's really dead. My guess is that's a fake in the coffin and he's alive in hiding somewhere.

[JYoung]

And yet, he never did upgrade the security of the mansion.
(See E.J. breaking in behind Rafe's back.)

[JYoung]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but just stop it with Carrie and Rafe already.
Please!

[JYoung]

I'm amused by the fact that Patrick Muldoon is on today's Adam Carolla podcast to plug DOOL.

[Peter000]

Major story spoiler in response to JYoung:
Well, they're blowing up Salem this week, and it ends on a major cliffhanger before the Olympics preempts Days for 2 weeks. Also Patrick Muldoon is leaving the show with Carrie. Or left as of yesterday, I think.

So I'm not surprised someone is making appearances.

[nirisahn]

I don't get how they think the surveillance tape is going to help EJ. Wouldn't the fact that he threw the gloves away make him look more guilty? I don't get why Ian would want the video erased. At least why erase the part that shows EJ pitching the gloves. I get erasing the part where he picks up the gloves. He doesn't want to be seen.

Wait. This is a soap. It doesn't have to make sense.

On a different topic - Carrie's leaving! Yay! No more Carrie and Rafe!

[cwoody222]

They brought NICK back?! God, why?

[Peter000]

They brought NICK back?! God, why?

I liked Nick before they made him Psycho.

[cwoody222]

Does anyone care less about Nick than I do?! Boring!

I saw on the cover of some Soap Opera tabloid the other day taht Chloe (yawn!) and Kristen (YAY!) are coming back.

I suspect they'll screw up Kristen's return just like they do Billie's every time.

[Peter000]

I like Nick.

The woman who portrays Chloe is among the worst actresses I've ever seen. And I hate her voice. Not eager to have her back.

Kristen... meh.

[TravisKU]

I'm excited for Kristen to return. I hope they bring back Susan as well.

Travis

[JYoung]

They're going to have Nicole fake another pregnancy, aren't they?

Don't they realize how stupid it was the first time?

[nirisahn]

I was thinking they did it because they didn't know how to resolve the who's the daddy storyline. This way they don't have to keep carrying on the charade of Rafe being the daddy.

I really hope they don't have her faking that the baby's still alive. She was only 3 weeks from delivery. I can't imagine they'd have her carrying a dead baby for 3 weeks so she doesn't have to admit it's dead. That's just sick, even for a soap.

[JYoung]

Not a fake pregnancy but the fake "you killed my baby" drama.

I don't think I've seen that since crazy Jan Spears.

So if Kristen comes back, will she pretend to be Susan in order to influence E.J.?

[JYoung]

BTW, Jennifer and Daniel still have no chemistry.

[cwoody222]

Ugh Eric is back?... As a priest?!

[JYoung]

Couldn't be bothered to get Jensen Ackles either.
(Of course, the commute from Vancouver would have been an issue ;) )

[TravisKU]

Eileen Davidson tweeted that NBC is airing an episode from June of 1997 on Friday. It is the episode where John/Susan get married.

I still remember my favorite part of that episode if I recall it correctly. Laura slaps Susan/Kristin and her false teeth fly out.

I can't wait to see this classic Days

Travis

[JYoung]

Days has been renewed until September 2014 (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/01/09/days-of-our-lives-renewed-by-nbc-through-september-2014/164728/),

[Peter000]

I enjoyed Monday's episode. It's the first in a long time that I didn't fast forward through half of the dialog. The scenes of Victor and Caroline comforting their grandkids were especially good. Victor comparing it to some of Salem's other wedding disasters was awesome. "No one got shot on the veranda!"

[cwoody222]

I agree... it's been pretty good with the fallout from the wedding.

I even paid attention to notice for the first time that they replaced the actor playing Cameron. I hadn't noticed until this week.

[JYoung]

So I take it that J.J. is another victim of SORAS.

[nirisahn]

What's SORAS?

[SoBelle0]

HA!! Yes, I think he is.
SORAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_Opera_Rapid_Aging_Syndrome) - Soap Opera Rapidly Aging Syndrome

I got to catch up this past week, and have really enjoyed re-meeting some of these people. I got rather mixed up about the doctor/Lexie's brother, and had to go and read up on what's gone on in Salem over the past while. What a hoot!
Some of these crazy storylines -
Rafe and Kate?!
Chloe's back, and terrible?
Is Bo gone? for good, or just for now?

[cwoody222]

I thought Chloe has left town - for good? Didn't they wrap that story up?

I assume Bo will be back; he's just on a work trip or some nonsense. I don't know why the actor left.

[Peter000]

HA!! Yes, I think he is.
SORAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_Opera_Rapid_Aging_Syndrome) - Soap Opera Rapidly Aging Syndrome

I got to catch up this past week, and have really enjoyed re-meeting some of these people. I got rather mixed up about the doctor/Lexie's brother, and had to go and read up on what's gone on in Salem over the past while. What a hoot!
Some of these crazy storylines -
Rafe and Kate?!
Chloe's back, and terrible?
Is Bo gone? for good, or just for now?

Yeah, some strange things going on in Salem.

Chloe is gone, leaving her son with daddy Daniel, paving the way for an instant family for Dan and Jen.

Bo will be back as soon as Peter Reckell gets what he wants out of contract negotiations.

[SoBelle0]

AH, she may be. I started reading back to when Lexie died. Seemed sad, and so sudden. As I was mostly confused about this new brother-in-law that Abe was talking with. That's where I'd heard about Chloe being a very bad person. I remember her sweet and all innocent... so, it was an interesting twist. I've got a few more weekly recaps to read still. :o

I've only actually watched last Fri and this past Monday, but am excited to get back into all these crazy stories - and to catch up with y'all.

Thanks for the update on Bo. I did always have a soft spot for him. At least, or until, Jack Deveraux was on. ;)

[JYoung]

Just don't hold your breath waiting for Jack to show up.

[SoBelle0]

Just don't hold your breath waiting for Jack to show up.

:(