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cwoody222
10-05-2006, 03:44 PM
Maybe it was Tek? ;)
mythica23
10-05-2006, 04:23 PM
I'm hoping that something big happens soon...
I like the emotional stuff - and the storylines are definately stable.
I just hope that we dont lose the big moments, for stablility...
seems alot of people say they are fast forwarding and last two episodes were pretty good. but things seem to have lost their boom!
BeanMeScot
10-05-2006, 04:39 PM
Maybe it was Tek? ;)
Who is Tek?
katbug
10-05-2006, 06:38 PM
Who is Tek?
http://www.nbc.com/Days_of_our_Lives/bios/Rhasaan_Orange.shtml
Doesn't really go too far in-depth, but it's a start. He is in love with Lexie and they got close when Abe was assumed dead. Then continued their affair when he came back to life (you'd think the people of Salem would know better than to ever assume their loved ones are dead by now, but that's a whole other story, lol). Abe found out about their affair and left Lexie. He's only "dating" her now to try to bust her for involvement in all that's going on in Salem right now.
mythica23
10-06-2006, 02:52 AM
i take it back what i said earlier days was great on thurday
cwoody222
10-06-2006, 10:08 AM
Really? I haven't really noticed a shift yet.
Can someone tell me why all of Stefanie's family and friends were supporting her by watching her race IN AN OFFICE ON TV?!
Sheesh, break out the Fourth of July Salem Park set and set up some bleachers or something ;)
katbug
10-06-2006, 11:38 AM
lol, I wondered about the tv thing as well. Then I figured that they were probably "supposed" to be watching live, but that they'd given them something to look at or something. Now I realize that I gave too much credit there too. I think they really were watching on tv. Kinda strange! You'd think they'd have box seats in the best part of the stadium.
Peter000
10-06-2006, 12:16 PM
These days I'm ff'ing alot through the shows, watching them in about 15 minutes or less. But yesterday I watched almost the whole thing.
I thought the shots of the gang watching the Race in the sky box or where ever it was was hilarious. SO fake looking.
I'm not minding the hair on Shawn. They're just trying to transition him from the old. I think he's doing a great job. His voice sounds so much like the old Shawn's it's eerie to me.
But Days sure is in a boring lull right now. They really need to ramp up the evil guy and get into it.
OH... And maybe I'm smeeking here, 'cause I've only read a page back, but Willow? As soon as she said "Grampa Shawn" I thought, she's a Brady. But then she hit Shawn big time with the freebie line and the "ew" factor was just too great for me to even consider it. :o
katbug
10-06-2006, 01:18 PM
lol, I went there too with Willow. Actually, I started wondering the second she showed up how she was related since the new characters always seem to have some connection. Then the G'pa Shawn thing...hey, it's not totally out of the realm of possibilities, just look at Max and his nieces and they've been known to do the accidental incest storyline before. *but I pray that they don't go there again*
cwoody222
10-06-2006, 01:34 PM
Wait - did I miss something? Who's Willow?
katbug
10-06-2006, 03:15 PM
Willow is the prostitute/runaway whom Nushawn ran into while shooting hoops yesterday. She kept propositioning him, then just listened to his problems. He gave her Maggie's contact info so she could get a job at Chez Rouge, so we'll probably see her again.
cwoody222
10-06-2006, 03:47 PM
Oh - now I remember! Yea, I also thought "oh jeez, another Brady because Shawn was her grandpa's name!"
God I hope not!
I missed her getting Maggie's contact info so I figured she was a one-show player. Guess not. :(
(Shawn to Maggie: "So, I met this hooker last night in the darkened alley... she was really nice... offered me a freebie... so you can tell she's a caring person... why don't you give her a job?")
katbug
10-06-2006, 03:50 PM
lol, well Maggie doesn't have the purest past if I recall correctly, but there are plenty of ex-prostitutes running around that town. Maybe it's a network and Aunt Maggie is really their Madame...Now that might shake things up a little. ;0)
BeanMeScot
10-07-2006, 04:37 PM
http://www.nbc.com/Days_of_our_Lives/bios/Rhasaan_Orange.shtml
Doesn't really go too far in-depth, but it's a start. He is in love with Lexie and they got close when Abe was assumed dead. Then continued their affair when he came back to life (you'd think the people of Salem would know better than to ever assume their loved ones are dead by now, but that's a whole other story, lol). Abe found out about their affair and left Lexie. He's only "dating" her now to try to bust her for involvement in all that's going on in Salem right now.
Ok. But that doesn't answer what happened to Abe's face. Too much plastic surgery, it looks like.
mythica23
10-07-2006, 05:17 PM
I think a major baddie needs to be let loose again also....
and the gloved hand thing is key or could be... but sheffer himself has just said that its a common trick that soaps use.. and its gonna just wrap up really soon.
I hope he gets stephano back.. but i dont think he is about major villians he is about or supposedly all into love stories..BLAH....
lol.. Good think im a man now cause if i was 13 again and this stuff was happening i would never watch or start even..
bring on the demon possession... joking
it will never happen again,.
but here is to me hoping (wink) even though most of you would stop watching.
katbug
10-07-2006, 07:57 PM
OMG mythica! The most shocking part of your post was that you're a man! lol. I don't know why I assumed you were a woman all this time. :o
Yeah, I'm hoping Sheffer doesn't go totally all about the love stories like everything says he is. The love stories are sooo boring without something more to make it interesting. I hated the demon posession storyline, but if it would get rid of Marlena forever, I'd be the first one to sign a petition to go there again.
mythica23
10-07-2006, 11:19 PM
thats too funny! katbug
JYoung
10-10-2006, 08:24 PM
The Sheffer stuff has started airing and at least some storylines are starting to move now.
However, Shawn driving the car into Victor's mansion? Wasn't jumping the motorcycle into St. Luke's enough? :rolleyes:
Peter000
10-11-2006, 05:44 PM
The Sheffer stuff has started airing and at least some storylines are starting to move now.
However, Shawn driving the car into Victor's mansion? Wasn't jumping the motorcycle into St. Luke's enough? :rolleyes:That prompted one of the funniest lines on Days in awhile...
"Shawn, I'm sorry this happened. But you had no right to drive your car through my living room wall."
Dreaday
10-13-2006, 01:40 PM
I have not watched this show in a year but I bet the same stuff if still going on
JYoung
10-13-2006, 09:05 PM
My crack cable company lost picture and sound on Thursday's episode for a couple of minutes.
What did Belle say as to what she wants and what Shawn say to Belle at Marlena's that made her so upset.
And why's Shawn hooking up with the hooker?
mythica23
10-15-2006, 02:05 PM
OMG WHEN DID HE DRIVE THROUGH VICTOR'S MANSION???????
i was away on vacation for 4 days and didnt get to watch days except for very very end of fridays episode :(
but i have soap net if i just get wich day it was i would love to not miss that>....
cwoody222
10-15-2006, 02:13 PM
End of Tuesday's show, then into Wednesday's.
He found out that Kate & Victor both knew that he was Claire's real father so he got upset and went to see them... and didn't bother with the driveway... or the door! :)
Funny thing to me was that it was the first time we'd seen the mansion in probably over a year!
mythica23
10-15-2006, 08:35 PM
thank you buddy! im watching it now thanks to your info
mythica23
10-16-2006, 09:15 PM
Oh lord what a let down...
Really if this show doesnt stop doing stuff that requires a budget to make it somewhat fun or exciting. not just smoke and flashes of light..
example the volcano and tsunami wich was really just red lights and maybe 2 buckets of water.. no more than two buckets thrown on people on fake raft....
car going threw vics mansion should have been awesome..... When general hospital does stuff they at least show the explosion!!!
now i see previews of a tsunami headed for so and so yet again..... >.<
I just hope its more than a bucket of water... come on days your special effects were better in the 1980's and 90's than now sigh....
cwoody222
10-18-2006, 02:19 PM
I've missed most of the last few days... and you know what? I can still follow all the storylines! LOL!
Friday I lost my cable plus I heard the local station ran news alerts (winter storm) all day.
Monday it was pre-empted by news again. Tuesday we got the first 30 minutes before the news team couldn't resist and cut in AGAIN... for the remainder of the show.
I'm hoping today I get to see a full hour.
PS Are they really having a tsunami? On Salem RIVER? They are confirmed to be in the midwest... meaning they don't have an ocean coastline!
I thought the writing was supposed to get BETTER and so far all we have is a hooker turned waitress stuck on the Fancy Face in a killer tsunami storm! LOL
mythica23
10-20-2006, 02:25 PM
it was just a squall or whatever a big wave but not huge lol...
(wich again was just maybe ummmm about two buckets of water thrown at shawn..
the writting is starting be become more real sort of here and there... the cops are starting to act like cops..
Billie confessing during trial was kinda lame...but at least she didnt have to have the secret exposed she ended it herself wich i liked.
Who actually knows if the writting will get actually better though.. im seeing hints and signs
but i dont like any of the storylines right now except for the gloved hand.. days has gotten so calm almost its kinda weird.. nothing major is going on besides the hand.
and the budget cant handle explosions or car wrecks or anything like that so i dont know what they can possibly do.?????
at least give us a decent big event and have it look somewhat realistic would be nice...
like on gh a couple months back maybe a year (i dont watch gh like i watch days)
but there was a bomb in the hospital and it went off and they actually showed a city sky line and the building blew up at the top... (cgi maybe) but at least it looked awesome sigh.
I think the last good special effect in days was during princess greta's corronation massacre thing. wich was prob last good ep of days alas.
unicorngoddess
10-20-2006, 04:08 PM
Well, they can't just flip a switch and turn into a different soap. The new writer has to fix the mess that JERk left behind.
As for big budgeted stuff...I don't need that. I'd be happy with a good ol' fashioned murder mystery, with a trial and everything.
I feel like the last "real" one that I can think of off the top of my head was Curtis Reed's murder trial when Billie was on trial for that. That was probably the last good one that I can remember...
cwoody222
10-20-2006, 04:23 PM
Well, they can't just flip a switch and turn into a different soap. The new writer has to fix the mess that JERk left behind.
As for big budgeted stuff...I don't need that. I'd be happy with a good ol' fashioned murder mystery, with a trial and everything.
I feel like the last "real" one that I can think of off the top of my head was Curtis Reed's murder trial when Billie was on trial for that. That was probably the last good one that I can remember...
Wasn't Chelsea's trial good enough for ya?
You know - where the judge just decides that she doesn't need a jury and the judge can just rule and sentence all in one afternoon. Just call her dad or uncle or something into the middle of the courtroom to talk for a few minutes and that'ss all we need. Simple, simple! All done!
:D
mythica23
10-20-2006, 10:48 PM
I liked john's trial in arimid or whatever that was near when i started watching...
the plot that tony came up with, where the gun was held by bookshelf thingy that closed and droped gun with johns fingerprints on it thus framin john. for his death when he was going to die anyway was freakin sweet!!!
I agree with you about murder mystery! doubtful that will happen though. and i was just saying if they are going to have tidal waves and people driving through houses at least let us see it thats all dont fade to black and swerve the camera or splash water lol..
passions sucks yet it had a nice budget for several storylines sigh wich was wasted on such a pathetic show... i want soap net to do sunset beach again now that was nice soap!! esp near end with killer on island and tsunami and earthquake..
either do it right or not at all! is all im sayin
unicorngoddess
10-20-2006, 11:24 PM
I forgot about John's Aremid trial. He got the gas chamber and all. That was pretty good.
I would also think it would be awesome if SoapNet would pick up Sunset Beach. I miss that show.
katbug
10-21-2006, 02:35 AM
GRRRR!!! I'm thisclose to cancelling my SP for this show after 22 years of watching! I just hate the direction everything's taken, even knowing that it was coming up from interviews, etc. I held onto some naive hope that Sheffer would not make these decisions. I'm so furious right now! I'm sick of seeing Sami crapped on at every turn. Yeah, she's made some very big mistakes, but enough already! I'm surprised that she didn't stick a gun to her head and just end it all right then and there when everyone was turning on her once again. If Sheffer's plan is for her to end up with Lucas, he's pushed this too far to make it believable. Lucas doesn't deserve Sami and I would be very upset if she ended up with him.
I hate what they've done with the Patrick and EJ characters. Argh! I'm just soooo done with this show! I might try one more day, but I don't know why...I'm sure it will finally end in a cancellation of my SP. :0(
JYoung
10-21-2006, 07:09 PM
If Sheffer's plan is for her to end up with Lucas, he's pushed this too far to make it believable. Lucas doesn't deserve Sami and I would be very upset if she ended up with him.
What??????????? :eek:
Lucas. Doesn't. Deserve. Sami? :eek:
I realize that Lucas is no angel but after all the crap she's put him through over the years (lying about Will's paternity, screaming at him that she wished he was dead when he was in a coma, just for starters), I can't blame him one bit for the way he acted.
Sami needs to learn some humility and beg his forgiveness.
I hate what they've done with the Patrick and EJ characters.
And you're just about the only one. ;)
Although I may join you on the cancellation line if Hope continues to be this mega bitchiness streak that rivals Sami and if Bo continues to be written as that stupid.
Gene S
10-21-2006, 08:05 PM
I'm so furious right now! I'm sick of seeing Sami crapped on at every turn. Yeah, she's made some very big mistakes, but enough already! (
They've got to break her down, to build her back up.
katbug
10-21-2006, 09:47 PM
I know Sami's been the one to do all the wrong things, but I mean Lucas doesn't deserve her in that he's never stood by her side on anything...ever! If he screwed up, she'd have his back because she truly loves him, but he has always taken the easy road when she messes up and turns his back on her. I'm sick of seeing her have to grovel to people who supposedly love her, but who've never had her back. She has absolutely no one who has completely stuck by her...it's no wonder she has issues! Her sisters screw up and no one blinks an eye...they just give them a hug and tell them everything will be all right. I feel for Sami.
I'm glad that Hope's not jumping right back with Bo with the way he's been acting. They've really turned him into a bafoon, but of course he'll be vindicated now that they've turned Patrick into the bad guy. Such a cop-out.
mythica23
10-22-2006, 12:24 PM
I will probably watch till the day it goes off...Knowing all the while it will never be as good as when i first started watching.
but katbug days needs you right now lol..... its only got about 2 to 4 more years left i would say...
I think the patrick storyline is one that has pissed me off more than alot of others... other than marlena killing everyone and blah blah.
JYoung
10-23-2006, 02:35 AM
I know Sami's been the one to do all the wrong things, but I mean Lucas doesn't deserve her in that he's never stood by her side on anything...ever! If he screwed up, she'd have his back because she truly loves him, but he has always taken the easy road when she messes up and turns his back on her. I'm sick of seeing her have to grovel to people who supposedly love her, but who've never had her back. She has absolutely no one who has completely stuck by her...it's no wonder she has issues! Her sisters screw up and no one blinks an eye...they just give them a hug and tell them everything will be all right. I feel for Sami.
Uhm, why should he be standing by her blindly?
Especially since he's gotten badly burned by her last two stunts.
Off the top of my head, Sami's done:
Kidnapped baby Belle.
Faked Belle's paternity records.
Schemed with Lucas to keep Carrie and Austin apart.
Drugged Austin to sleep with him.
Stole Austin's car to prevent him from being with Carrie.
Faked paralysis and amnesia to keep Austin.
Stole evidence of Kate's escort past and blackmailed Kate with it.
Lied about Will's paternity (although to be fair, she did think Austin was the father at first).
Manipulated Mike and Carrie into a romance both before and after Carrie and Austin married. (I admit that this does not totally excuse Carrie.)
I forgot what she did (lied about) that caused Austin to walk out on her at their wedding.
Coerced Eugenia to falsify Theo's medical records.
Worked with Tony DiMera as "Stan" and almost got Lucas, Shawn, Brady, and Phillip killed and is indirectly responsible for Phillip loosing his leg.
Blackmailed Lexie into lying Carrie's medical tests to keep her away from Austin.
I agree that she did get burned by Kate and Eugenia but she was stupid for going to see Brandon in the first place. And the way she was such a bitch to Kate (and John) when Kate was trying to make peace with her left me with very little sympathy for her.
I see no compelling reason for Lucas to stand beside her and none of her sisters did anything near as bad.
katbug
10-23-2006, 12:43 PM
But on any of those charges, did Lucas stand by her even once? Nope. Not even from the very beginning. I'm certainly not saying that Sami has been good...she's messed up very badly over and over as your post points out. I guess I just think Lucas' "love" is very conditional.
And he did something far worse than she's ever done: Sent her to death row for a crime he committed! Yet, somehow she's managed to forgive him for that.
I'd like to see Sami with someone who isn't interested in someone else and truly loves her, bringing out the best in her. Lucas will never be able to do that, no matter how they write the storylines.
(and I don't blame her one bit for not trusting Kate when she was supposedly trying to make peace with her. She would have been crazy to ever trust her!)
cwoody222
10-23-2006, 01:39 PM
I'd like to see Sami with someone who isn't interested in someone else and truly loves her, bringing out the best in her. Lucas will never be able to do that, no matter how they write the storylines.
That's why I miss Brandon :(
katbug
10-23-2006, 01:47 PM
Ooh, I'd forgotten about Brandon. He does fit that description, doesn't he? Hmmm...
JYoung
10-23-2006, 02:12 PM
But on any of those charges, did Lucas stand by her even once? Nope. Not even from the very beginning. I'm certainly not saying that Sami has been good...she's messed up very badly over and over as your post points out. I guess I just think Lucas' "love" is very conditional.
First of all, they weren't a couple for most of those items and he had basically forgiven for those when they finally did hook up.
They were really only a couple for the last two items and Lucas got personally burned very badly both times. And yet, it seemed that he still forgave her for the Stan business after time passed. He may yet forgive down the road.
And he did something far worse than she's ever done: Sent her to death row for a crime he committed! Yet, somehow she's managed to forgive him for that.
I don't think anyone outside of Kate and Lucas knows the whole truth of Franco's murder. Sami may have suspected but she never knew for certain that Lucas was the one who shot Franco.
And he did try to confess and try to get Sami off of Death Row but Kate intervened (and in Lucas' defense, he was much more of a mama's boy in those days.)
His "reward" for confessing was going into a coma and having Sami yell at him that she wished he was dead.
(Actually, that whole storyline was ridiculous anyhow as Lucas shot in defense of his mother. There was no doubt in my mind that Franco was going to kill Kate and Lucas shot to protect her. Gene Briscoe or Mickey should have been able to get him off in short order. All Kate had to say was that she found out Franco was an illegal alien and when she confronted him, he grew enraged.
"I had no idea about his problems back in Italy."
I'm sure that even Austin the pure would have stood by Lucas.)
I'd like to see Sami with someone who isn't interested in someone else and truly loves her, bringing out the best in her. Lucas will never be able to do that, no matter how they write the storylines.
She had that. With Brandon. And she still screwed it up.
(and I don't blame her one bit for not trusting Kate when she was supposedly trying to make peace with her. She would have been crazy to ever trust her!)
Maybe, maybe not. I genuinely believe that Kate truly loved Roman and was trying to make amends.
But even if she wasn't, it's stupid to be that bitter and vicious to Kate's face. Roman sees that and he's not going to side with Sami either.
(and the way she was so abusive to John, I'm surprised he didn't just cut her off totally.)
Sami needs to grow up before she can have a real relationship with anyone.
And you seem to be confusing the concepts of love and trust.
Just because someone loves another doesn't mean they should have unconditional trust in whatever they do. Especially if they've proven to be extremely untrustworthy in the past.
katbug
10-23-2006, 02:23 PM
No confusion here. It's one thing to lose trust, but Lucas keeps going back to "I love Sami", only to throw her past in her face every chance he gets. He hasn't forgiven her. Also, Kate doesn't have a sincere bone in her body! There's no way she was being sincere to Sami, even while trying to impress Roman.
And if you're letting Lucas off the hook for "trying" to confess about the shooting, but letting Kate talk him out of it, then you have to give Sami the same credit for everything wrong she's ever done...each time she's at some point or another tried to come clean, only to be cut off by whomever she's trying to confess to. Then when it comes out they wonder why she didn't say something sooner. :0(
JYoung
10-23-2006, 03:25 PM
Lucas usually throws Sami's past in her face when she's being a beeootch or scheming (which is 85-90% of her screen time).
(Of course part of his motive is jealousy)
(and you really hate the Kate character, don't you.)
And I'm not giving Lucas a free pass either. He definately needs to finish growing a pair when it comes to Kate (and Sami too).
But unless I'm mistaken, Lucas actually did go to the police and confess but Kate convinced them that Lucas was distraught over Will's reaction to everything plus Lucas had been hitting the bottle, you know.
Which is more than Sami ever did. She never owns up until there's no other choice.
katbug
10-23-2006, 06:31 PM
Well Sami doesn't throw all of Lucas' flaws in his face whenever they fight. The only times she's brought up his drinking is when she's concerned for him.
I do like the Kate character...she's a "love to hate" kinda character where Marlena is my "hate to hate, wish she was just gone" kinda character, lol. I can't stand Kate, but she brings something to the show, so I do like the character if that makes sense. ;0)
cwoody222
10-23-2006, 09:20 PM
See... and I LOVE Marlena. She can do no wrong in my eyes. Maybe it's because I started watching when she came back from the dead originally... but I can't imagine DOOL without her!!!
Damn, why don't I ever thinking of Marlena Evans Black as a Halloween costume.. ;)
katbug
10-23-2006, 10:37 PM
lol @ the Marlena costume! It would be funny to see how many people knew exactly who you were supposed to be.
I think I started disliking Marlena when I read an article about what a diva Deirdre was...special billing as "special guest" even though she was permanent cast, making 2 actors give up their dressing rooms (or trailers? can't remember) to combine to make one large one for herself, etc. That's when I also started getting irritated by Marlena's constant gasp of surprise or startlement or whatever it is she does, even when she's not surprised. It was an effective tool to give her character a memorable reaction at first, but then it just takes over her scenes. That's just my opinion though...most people adore her. Then again, I love the Sami character and apparently a lot of people can't stand her, so I guess they should split this show up into 2 for the different fantypes, lol. ;0)
cwoody222
10-23-2006, 10:49 PM
Nah, I love Sami too!!!
Deidre deserves to be a bit of a diva... wouldn't you if you'd be THE star of the show for at least 15 years + ?
(seriously! at least she didn't run off to try to be a Madam on FOX Primetime ;) )
mythica23
10-24-2006, 11:45 AM
who are you speakin gof heather lockleer?
cwoody222
10-24-2006, 12:29 PM
No - Hope.
She played a Madam on an episode arc of Melrose Place.
JYoung
10-24-2006, 01:47 PM
Well Sami doesn't throw all of Lucas' flaws in his face whenever they fight. The only times she's brought up his drinking is when she's concerned for him.
I do like the Kate character...she's a "love to hate" kinda character where Marlena is my "hate to hate, wish she was just gone" kinda character, lol. I can't stand Kate, but she brings something to the show, so I do like the character if that makes sense. ;0)
Well, except for the times she derisively referred to him as a lush and a drunk and she lied and claimed a drunken Lucas struck Will.
I don't hate Sami. I think that she's a good pot stirrer. I'm just aware of her shortcomings. (I like Allison Sweeney too.)
But the character basically has not changed one bit in 13 years.
I know you don't want to hear this ( ;) ) but Marlena was 100% right when she chewed out Sami.
And Kate, yes you do love to hate her. (Plus I think that Lauren Koslow is a very attractive woman)
mythica23
10-24-2006, 09:16 PM
well I hate will lol... what an ugly little kid who cant act..
and i really liked today tuesday 24/ episode its kinda starting to build some nice tension.. and romance again.
although if patrick didnt guess what marlena did he deserves to get caught
katbug
10-24-2006, 11:05 PM
I haven't gotten to finish today's episode yet (I think anyway...was on here reading while watching, so I may have finished and not even realized it), but had to say that I think we found someone we can all agree on. Will is awful! I keep thinking they'll SORAS him and come back with someone better, but instead they let him grow up on his own. :0(
P.S. Nope, just checked my list and haven't watched toDays ;0) at all, it must have been yesterday's that I watched.
katbug
10-25-2006, 01:47 AM
OMG! Ok, I know this is not going to be in the least bit popular but here goes anyway:
WOOHOOOOO!!! You tell him Sami!
ok, so it took EJ to make her stand up to her dad, but even if he's a bad guy, he's convincing her to do the things I keep wanting her to do. I only wish he'd end up with her instead of (ewwww) Kate. I so wish he meant everything he's saying to her. This is so frustrating! OK, just had to release that little bit. Didn't mean to start another discussion about how ashamed she should be, etc. just needed to celebrate that she's finally becoming her own woman. Go Sami!!!
JYoung
10-25-2006, 03:53 PM
(not going to say it, not going to say it)
katbug
10-25-2006, 03:55 PM
ROFL! You've got good restraint JYoung!
mythica23
10-29-2006, 10:07 PM
good november preview in this weeks soap digest.
sami is just to selfish for me. i used to like her, Till carrie came back (even though carrie was written for terribly this time) I always wanted her to amend things she did to carrie in the past not open new wounds.c :(
Although carrie pissed me off with marrying lucas then having affair a day or so later.. I will always like carrie. She always forgave sami and tried to be good sister..... and look where it got her.
sami is never going to love anyone or be good person unless sami learns to love herself .ollollol.....there im a shrink now hehe
unicorngoddess
11-01-2006, 01:26 PM
Here's some info on some newcomers to the show...I'll spoilerize just in case:
Benji Dimera is coming back. They've cast an actor named Jim Lunsford to play the part. He's suppose to play a crucial role in Steve remembering his past. Apparently he comes to visit Steve and Steve instinctively starts signing with him. Benji is still apparently deaf.
There's also a new character by the name of Nick Fallon. I had no idea who this was, so I had to go look him up. He's a new character but his parents were apparently around in the early 80's. Here's a link http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/characters/fallons.html. The actor playing Nick is Blake Berris. Nick and Chelsea are suppose to be hit it off by meeting online. I guess the new writer is getting serious about not wanting near incest relationships anymore :)
TiVoDan
11-02-2006, 04:11 AM
Like camels through the eye of a needle, so are the Days of Our Lives!
mythica23
11-08-2006, 06:40 PM
Tiveo dan WTF??? lay of of the lsd only on weekends k!
and im totally in love with nick fallon oh my god geek is shiek? hotness but i dont know why.... I would fall for him though in a heart beat!
hope he doesnt turn evil in two years like patrick sigh
katbug
11-08-2006, 08:14 PM
ROFL, yeah, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Abby and Chelsea give him the hottie makeover, then it's "buhbye Mythica's crush" ;0)
Of course, as soon as he's a hunk, he will most definitely be written off as evil. :0(
Gene S
11-09-2006, 06:59 PM
OK, I need a recap. Who is Nick and how is he a "Cous" to Abby?
(I have to admit, I've been doing the triple fast forward on the Tivo lately on DOOL)
katbug
11-09-2006, 08:42 PM
He's the son of Joshua and Jessica Fallon (related 'cuz Jessica is Marie Horton's daughter). Here's a link describing who they are (although I have to admit, it didn't really help me a whole lot...too far back in the family tree to remember anything about them).
http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/characters/fallons.html
(link courtesy of UnicornGoddess...thank you!!)
mythica23
11-09-2006, 10:33 PM
I hope days has something big happen soon..
something to bring alot of charecters together... like the avalanche that burried hope..
or something big..(doesnt have to be explosion or something speacial effectsy..cause i know they keep floping with those) I mean all the chareter development and stuff thats been happaning is good and all but im getting bored...
Aside from sami apologizing to lexie and so forth its been pretty slow burning... even with kayla on brink of death, and ej and patrick ... theres just no ooomppff or wha wha what moments.. hopefully november will be good month sheifer has said that ej would be seen as a more central villain near end of november
and do you guys think mimi stole that money???
TiVoDan
11-09-2006, 11:07 PM
Like camels through the eye of a needle, so are the Days of Our Lives!Tiveo dan WTF??? lay of of the lsd only on weekends k!Obviously you didn't get the subtle biblical reference, which I was using to make a commentary on the obsurdity of this show. :D
katbug
11-09-2006, 11:54 PM
I haven't seen today's episode yet, but the last I saw, Bonnie stole Patrick's money (or you may be referencing something completely different from today's ep.)
P.S. I can't believe she'd stoop so low as to blame it on Mimi. Pretty sick for a mother to go that far. :mad:
nirisahn
11-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Bonnie's ripped off both Mimi and Patrick before, big time. I'm not surprised she's blaming Mimi - Bonnie's never accepted responsibility for anything she's done wrong, ever. Plus, how many times has she counseled both Patrick and Mimi to do the wrong thing?
unicorngoddess
11-10-2006, 05:24 PM
ROFL, yeah, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Abby and Chelsea give him the hottie makeover, then it's "buhbye Mythica's crush" ;0)
Of course, as soon as he's a hunk, he will most definitely be written off as evil. :0(
Remember Kevin? I think that was his name. He was the first guy Mimi had slept with. He was a total nerd. Then they took off the glasses and he lost his shirt and turned into a total hottie.
mythica23
11-11-2006, 09:04 PM
i think its funny when these movies or shows take a geek thats already hot and then take of glasses and shirt and its like its supposed to be a surprise!!!
and the absurdity has kept this show on for how many years now???? so something must be working... Even if not forever .
mythica23
11-13-2006, 05:45 PM
pretty good article in this weeks soap digest...
some good spoilers about john marlena and patch and kayla.. even a little bit of bo and hope.
and did i see the dimera ring in fridays trailer for this week...?
katbug
11-13-2006, 06:23 PM
Hmmmm...wouldn't be too surprising. What was surprising is the shirt that Patrick wore last week for a few episodes...looked like a Phoenix to me. You'd think trying to keep suspicion off of you would include not displaying any sign of the Phoenix.
JYoung
11-13-2006, 06:32 PM
This is just another cheap attempt to get Patrick to take off his shirt. :p
katbug
11-13-2006, 06:52 PM
Darn! Am I that transparent?!? ;0)
Gene S
11-13-2006, 07:45 PM
Hmm. Tivo didn't record todays show. History says it was a repeat.
Was it any good? I could grab it off of SoapNet.
JYoung
11-13-2006, 08:16 PM
I think that's because one show last week was prempted for Martha Stewart or something.
Since soaps are almost never repeated, I set my SP to get ALL Episodes period.
mythica23
11-13-2006, 11:16 PM
yea i think it was thursdays episode was just a repeat here... in clearwater fl.
im watching mondays episode right now i had to miss it earlier so im watching it on soap net.
I'm so glad that soap net got days.. I wish they would get sunset beach too sigh.
just wish crappy Y&R didnt take 7 pm time slot here..... ya know weird thing is y&r has been number 1 in neilsons rating forever now . yet i dont think i have ever met anyone that watches it????? met some that watched amc and one life and almost all other but never anyone to say i watch y&r .....oddd then that it could be number 1 all these years i think,,
unicorngoddess
11-13-2006, 11:52 PM
it was pre-empted here because on Wednesday's episode they did a special on JFK.
cwoody222
11-14-2006, 08:37 AM
Wednesday's episode on the East Coast was pre-empted by news of Rumsfield stepping down.
I suspect they canceled the ep for the West Coast and local affiliates were able to run whatever they wanted (Martha Stewart, JFK special, etc).
mythica23
11-15-2006, 09:24 PM
i got two hours of passions that day ................
Dont know what i did to deserve that but anywho!
Marlena was awesome today when she jumped out of that plane to lighten the load... so john could make it.. although how heavy is she???? where that was enough to save the day...???
mythica23
11-15-2006, 09:25 PM
also yet again im sick of days not having a budget... ruins moments like that.... espeacially
I mean remember when they were on the plane long time ago with princess greta story thing,., and doors flew off and people were getting sucked out of the plane.....???!!!!! now those were some speacial effects ..... sigh i wish they would either a do things they can afford to do ... or do stuff that doesnt require alot of effects ...
grrrooowwwlll
katbug
11-15-2006, 09:35 PM
I haven't watched it yet, but thought you were kidding about Marlena jumping out of the plane. Please tell me she crash-landed and will no longer be on the show! Please?? oh, all right. I'm not that naive, but a girl can dream, can't she?! ;0)
mythica23
11-17-2006, 01:13 AM
Does john have light speed on his jets ??? cause he made it there and back and then to marlena in the course of 30 min wowza
jon777
11-17-2006, 02:00 PM
Even though this is a spoilers thread, I posting in spoiler tags:
Smokey Robinson?!?!? Are you kidding me?!?!? What the hell was that?
And Steve's kiss bringing Kayla back from the dead. I love some of rediculous plots as much as anyone, but give me a break!
Ugh!
mythica23
11-18-2006, 02:34 PM
actually i think that moment with steve and kayla was one of best moments of this new writer's work.. i actually got a little emo
but we all have opinions..
next week looks to be good acording to soap opera weekly...
hope against hope it gets exciting again..
SoBelle0
11-20-2006, 12:00 PM
Even though this is a spoilers thread, I posting in spoiler tags:
Smokey Robinson?!?!? Are you kidding me?!?!? What the hell was that?
And Steve's kiss bringing Kayla back from the dead. I love some of rediculous plots as much as anyone, but give me a break!
Ugh!
I am right there with ya Jon!! WHAT?!?!?! I've seen, and occasionally enjoyed, some extreme ridiculousness on this show - but I had a bit of a :rolleyes: moment on those as well.
cwoody222
11-20-2006, 12:04 PM
Does john have light speed on his jets ??? cause he made it there and back and then to marlena in the course of 30 min wowza
At least they actually said where they were flying to. I think it was "Ottowa". I thought they were just going to keep saying "Canada" the whole time :rolleyes:
katbug
11-20-2006, 01:53 PM
OMG, lol. I'm a few days behind so just finished the "found Marlena" part...they let me down by skipping the scene after Abe announces that she's been found:
Sami: Is she alive?!
Abe (very serious): Yeah, but you'll never believe who's got her.
Suspicious "Stephano" looks on everyone's faces...cut to commercial.
So they skipped Abe saying in deadly serious tones "Smokey Robinson" and the following duh, duh, duh, dum, hawk eye of John's and everyone else assuming that he's working for the Dimeras.
Oh well, just a little sidetracked on that scene, but some real opportunities missed, lol. I was so looking forward to that!
Were we supposed to be surprised that the bandaged person in Victor's secret room was Philip? It was obvious from the first time they showed it, but when he finally said "Philip", it was all dramatic like we were supposed to be shocked.
Which brings me to:
What's everyone's guesses as to why Philip is bandaged? Plastic surgery to start over? New actor to play the part, so they had to do something dramatic? Or he was badly injured and is still replaced?
mythica23
11-21-2006, 12:23 AM
he is replaced i think he went off to war and got blown up again or something.... wich lets them bring in new actor of course
katbug
11-21-2006, 12:40 AM
I can't even imagine that he went off to war again and is already back after being injured. He would have had to be injured getting off the plane, hasn't it only been a couple of days since he disappeared? I don't know, I've been watching 3-4 episodes at a time, so my time frames could be way off.
One really nice thing about them getting all the supercouples back together: I can watch Days in about 5 minutes now and reclaim a little of my life. ;0)
JYoung
11-23-2006, 05:58 PM
I found Patrick rather amusing.
"Duh, where did my money go, George?"
"Where did it go?"
mythica23
11-28-2006, 01:17 AM
no patrick knew right away who took his money or who he suspected...
anyway did anyone catch todays episode monday the 17 i believe... anyway its starting to interest me again at least.. they got the whole aura of mystery back to the show...
i love celeste and i just hope they do make her talent a joke this time...
like the last time..
and i liked abe's speach to her lexie and theo. about family being a fist or some dreck like that it was nice talk..
one of my fav speaches in the show was when kristen was trying to warn lexie about the power of stephano's manipulations, i wish i could remember word for word what she said but it was very well written.
JYoung
11-28-2006, 03:26 AM
no patrick knew right away who took his money or who he suspected...
That's why he was asking Billie and Chelsea.
And......
Face transplant??????? :confused: :confused:
Cause plastic surgury isn't enough?
cwoody222
11-28-2006, 03:03 PM
For the Patrick haters out there...
http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/comngo.html
Brody Hutzler (Patrick) has been let go from the show. At the Days event in Massachusetts the weekend of August 26-27 it was revealed that Brody (Patrick) would be departing in February. Could he and Mimi be leaving town together? Farah's (Mimi's) contract is up in February after she asked to be let out of it early as previously reported.
JYoung
11-28-2006, 07:36 PM
For the Patrick haters out there...
http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/comngo.html
There's a big potential spoiler at that link.
If Renee Jones has been cut, Lexie is probably the one who will get killed as Celeste prophesized.
mythica23
11-29-2006, 09:36 PM
oh my god no....
mythica23
12-03-2006, 12:07 AM
I'm actually enjoying watching john and marlana
this week looks to be promising
SnakeEyes
12-03-2006, 01:17 AM
Stefano is not a bad guy, he is just misunderstood and passionate about his interests.
cwoody222
12-06-2006, 10:30 AM
Can someone fill me in on what the heck's going on with Mimi's mom (I never remember her name) and the surrogate she's paying off?
Where did THAT come from the other day?!
unicorngoddess
12-06-2006, 10:38 AM
Can someone fill me in on what the heck's going on with Mimi's mom (I never remember her name) and the surrogate she's paying off?
Where did THAT come from the other day?!
Mimi and Philip signed over the rights to the baby that the serogate was carrying. But since the baby is a Kiriakis, Bonnie figure if she bought the baby from the surogate it would give her access to the Kiriakis money.
cwoody222
12-06-2006, 11:54 AM
Oh - so it is the same surrogate? (if not the same actress)
Now I get it.
mythica23
12-13-2006, 12:33 AM
days was nice today! on tuesday dec 12th
mythica23
12-15-2006, 04:11 PM
ok why did victor kidnap clair for all of a couple of hours????
cwoody222
12-15-2006, 04:15 PM
So when Philip sues for sole custody they can use the kidnapping to show that Belle is an unfit mother and caretaker.
mythica23
12-16-2006, 06:54 PM
at least they're not gonna make it like he switched her/ last writter would have been tempted lol
JYoung
12-17-2006, 11:38 PM
Willow is nuts.
Who would have guessed.
:rolleyes:
mythica23
12-24-2006, 11:20 PM
grrr i was gone to south carolina and my dvr ran out of space... i missed whole stephano thing grrrroooowwwwlll....
has days ever had a gay charecter?>
JYoung
12-24-2006, 11:30 PM
Uhm, Harold?
Jack's old assistant at the Spectator?
unicorngoddess
01-09-2007, 06:03 PM
So Hope came home with her new baby yesterday. Was anyone else annoyed by the way they seemed to be holding the "baby" like a football. Especially Caroline. I'm sure these actresses have had the chance to hold real babies before and should at least know how to hold the doll to make it look at least semi-real.
So, I wonder what the people's choice will be for the baby's name...
JYoung
01-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Probably something lame like Paris.
unicorngoddess
01-10-2007, 03:34 PM
The voting for naming Hope's baby is over and they've chosen a winner.
tHE WAITING IS OVER! THE VOTES ARE IN!
The winning name is Ciara Alice Brady.
View the final vote tally below:
Ciara Alice Brady
40%
Cassidy Addison Brady
32%
Rori Joy Brady
15%
JYoung
01-10-2007, 08:22 PM
Yep. Lame.
Where's the vomiting icon
JYoung
01-15-2007, 10:49 PM
So Phillip goes through a face transplant to get the face of....
wait for it....
Jay Kenneth Johnson (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0425322/)!
http://www.dslextreme.com/users/jonathany/images/icons/Guffaw.gif
cwoody222
01-16-2007, 10:36 AM
And why was no one shocked at his "new" face?!
SoBelle0
01-16-2007, 11:24 AM
My question exactly! I guess because they've all seen him before - as Phillip. :)
So, I decide to start watching again, and this is ridiculous!! How is it that the judge would give Phillip and Victor custody of the child while Shawn and Belle go through parenting classes? Grandparents, maybe? Non-relatives who ran away soon after finding out that she wasn't actually his child, not likely.
Now, I'm invested again and have to watch to see what stupid thing Shawn does to make matters even worse. Sheesh!
Oh, and Stephanie's leaving already. Admittedly, she had no story line - but I wouldn't have thought they'd bring her back as a grown up for a month or two and then shuffle her off to Dayton. Whatever.
I was delighted to see that Patch has his memory back. But, what's with the weird googly eyes and such... is he crazy? Is John going to live?
unicorngoddess
01-16-2007, 01:08 PM
It was really way out there, I agree. First of all, Shawn shouldn't have been there sitting next to Belle. She would have had a better chance by herself and they haven't legally granted any kind of custody whatsoever to Shawn. Philip was right about one thing, he is still legally Claire's father. His name is on the birth certificate, and because nobody bothered to take care of custody issues when they first found out about Claire being Shawn's, Philip still has legal rights to her.
But Belle would have stood a much better chance if she went up against Philip and Victor by herself.
cwoody222
01-16-2007, 01:28 PM
Non-relatives who ran away soon after finding out that she wasn't actually his child, not likely.
Well, actually Philip is Bo's half-brother so he's Shawn's half-uncle? So he's Claire's half-great-Uncle? Is there such a thing? :D
And of course Victor is Claire's great-grandfather.
JYoung
01-16-2007, 03:52 PM
And why was no one shocked at his "new" face?!
Well, there were a few lines about how "this is not Phillip."
So, I decide to start watching again, and this is ridiculous!! How is it that the judge would give Phillip and Victor custody of the child while Shawn and Belle go through parenting classes? Grandparents, maybe? Non-relatives who ran away soon after finding out that she wasn't actually his child, not likely.
You know Victor exerted influence with the judge.
Oh, and Stephanie's leaving already. Admittedly, she had no story line - but I wouldn't have thought they'd bring her back as a grown up for a month or two and then shuffle her off to Dayton. Whatever.
I'm sorry to see her go.
Shayna Rose is a cutie.
I was delighted to see that Patch has his memory back. But, what's with the weird googly eyes and such... is he crazy? Is John going to live?
It's been hinted that the Dimera's did the same kind of mind control thing on Steve that they did on John Black and it's been strongly implied that he's been programmed to be an assassin.
SoBelle0
01-16-2007, 03:58 PM
I should have known that Victor did something sneaky to get it all to come out the way he wanted. My cohort said that he bribed the DFCS lady or something. Is he trying to 'make it right' that he kept the secret for so long? Terrible.
It's been hinted that the Dimera's did the same kind of mind control thing on Steve that they did on John Black and it's been strongly implied that he's been programmed to be an assassin.
Oooh, that could be interesting enough to keep my attention. But, who will he assassinate now that both EJ and Patrick seem to be out of the picture. Speaking of... where is EJ?
cwoody222
01-16-2007, 04:02 PM
Speaking of... where is EJ?
We don't know. He escaped after raping Sami.
... and impregnating her. Presumably. Because she's preggers.
Oh, and on Philip
I read in TV Guide that the producers are going to turn him into a major villain. It was time to pass the reigns from Victor, I guess.
SoBelle0
01-16-2007, 04:11 PM
I wondered if that would be the outcome. Have she and Lucas slept together? or if she turns up pregnant, will it be obvious to him that she was with someone else? thus causing yet ANOTHER issue for them.
I think she should have come totally clean to both Lucas and her Father after the incident with EJ and the rescue. Man, that girl can paint herself into a corner like no one else. And, she's one of my favorite characters. Guess that's part of it that I'm always gunning for her and she's never listening to me. :)
That other news should make life a bit more interesting as well. Thanks for the info!
JYoung
01-16-2007, 04:23 PM
I should have known that Victor did something sneaky to get it all to come out the way he wanted. My cohort said that he bribed the DFCS lady or something. Is he trying to 'make it right' that he kept the secret for so long? Terrible.
Well, more that he wants Phillip to have it all.
Oooh, that could be interesting enough to keep my attention. But, who will he assassinate now that both EJ and Patrick seem to be out of the picture. Speaking of... where is EJ?
You know, the usual enemies of the Dimeras. John, Roman, Bo, Abe, Sean, Sean Douglas, Hope.....
And:
Is Allison Sweeney pregnant? And they are writing it into the storyline?
I hope we don't have another of this "who is the baby's father?" business again.
Because I'm pretty sure that she and Lucas were intimate in the cabin before the collapse.
JYoung
01-24-2007, 12:55 AM
Shawn should have taken Phillip's leg.
nirisahn
02-01-2007, 07:06 PM
The people who write this show are nuts.
I've been watching this show for a very long time. E.J. should be a little kid, not an adult. The character was born in 1997 (I checked on IMDB.com to verify). I know kids age quickly in soaps, but infant to 30-something in about 10 years? Give me a break. I can suspend my disbelief just so much.
I know Lucas is desperate for a job, but why would he work for E.J.? This show needs fresher ideas.
SoBelle0
02-01-2007, 07:43 PM
I loved Max's speech to Phillip yesterday (or the day before) where Phillip was all, I'm a hero, and have sooo much tragedy to deal with, and now I don't recognize myself when I look in the mirror...
and Max responded that it's not just because of his new face - that he (Max) also has had some rough spots in his life, but didn't let it turn him into a jerk! That Phillip used to care about people, and all that...
That was great! Spot on! good writing.
cwoody222
02-02-2007, 08:41 AM
I know Lucas is desperate for a job...
Yea, 'cause he's been unemployed for about 48 hours and his mother is loaded (not to mention Sami's parents) and runs a huge corporation :rolleyes:
Yea, Lucas is desperate. I wish I was so desperate :D
JYoung
02-02-2007, 12:41 PM
Actually, with John out of comission, Lucas would be a good choice to run the day to day of Basic Black but somehow, I don't think we're ever going to hear about Basic Black again.
martinp13
02-02-2007, 03:23 PM
The people who write this show are nuts.
I've been watching this show for a very long time. E.J. should be a little kid, not an adult. The character was born in 1997 (I checked on IMDB.com to verify). I know kids age quickly in soaps, but infant to 30-something in about 10 years? Give me a break. I can suspend my disbelief just so much.
I know Lucas is desperate for a job, but why would he work for E.J.? This show needs fresher ideas.
It's kind of general, but it's true. Remember how in crime dramas they always say "follow the money"? In soaps, it's "follow the drama". If you're going to guess if A, B, or C will happen, pick the one with the most drama, no matter how improbable. :)
nirisahn
02-06-2007, 05:43 PM
I stand corrected. It looks like Lucas didn't take the job.
I don't like the guy playing Philip. I didn't like him last time he was on the show, and I don't like him any better now. Too whiney.
JYoung
02-07-2007, 03:36 PM
I stand corrected. It looks like Lucas didn't take the job.
I don't like the guy playing Philip. I didn't like him last time he was on the show, and I don't like him any better now. Too whiney.
Yeah but Jay Kenneth Johnson has always portrayed him as whiney.
"Chloe! Chloe! Come back! Love me, Chloe!".
nirisahn
02-08-2007, 04:27 PM
OK. I'm confused. Did Lucas take the job or didn't he? In Friday's or Monday's episode ( I forget which), he turns the job down, but in Tuesday's episode he's dressed for the office and EJ tells him to come to the police station instead (I'm a day or so behind on watching). What did I miss? I remember Lucas giving Will permission to take the play station, but I don't remember him breaking down and accepting the job.
cwoody222
02-08-2007, 04:39 PM
Speaking of... did I miss EJ's fight with Patch? I don't remember seeing that at all and suddenly EJ was beat up and Patch was in jail.
JYoung
02-08-2007, 07:30 PM
Speaking of... did I miss EJ's fight with Patch? I don't remember seeing that at all and suddenly EJ was beat up and Patch was in jail.
It was a blink and you'll miss it moment at the end of Friday's episode.
Steve said he had to do something and the next thing you see is EJ and Steve crashing through a window.
(Overexpose frame, fade out)
cwoody222
02-23-2007, 10:35 AM
My Gaydar went off with the new Salem U character, Jed, that was "hitting" on Abby at the coffeeshop.
The way he said he was "involved with someone" and that he wasn't hitting on her, "trust me" he said in that "no really, and here's why...." tone. And then they make him out to be SUCH a cad so it's clear she misunderstood and will then feel bad and have to apologize. See Abby, he really DID just want a ride and thought you'd be easy to TALK TO just like he said.
None of my regular sites have any buzz... anyone else hear / think similarly?
If it's true, kudos for casting him as a baseball player too :)
trainman
02-23-2007, 09:31 PM
"Bold and the Beautiful" happened to be on in the lounge at work today, and I was shocked to see Brady Black on another show, with long hair! :eek:
(Well, Kyle Lowder, at least. I haven't seen "DOOL" in almost two years, so he'll always be Brady Black to me -- but I assume there have been two or three other Bradys in that time span.)
nirisahn
02-25-2007, 02:15 PM
Nope, He and Chloe are off on an "extended honeymoon", and haven't even been mentioned in a while that I can remember.
JYoung
03-01-2007, 01:21 AM
My Gaydar went off with the new Salem U character, Jed, that was "hitting" on Abby at the coffeeshop.
The way he said he was "involved with someone" and that he wasn't hitting on her, "trust me" he said in that "no really, and here's why...." tone. And then they make him out to be SUCH a cad so it's clear she misunderstood and will then feel bad and have to apologize. See Abby, he really DID just want a ride and thought you'd be easy to TALK TO just like he said.
None of my regular sites have any buzz... anyone else hear / think similarly?
If it's true, kudos for casting him as a baseball player too :)
Nope. I just think he's a bad actor.
However, I'll bet you $5 that Jed is Willow's brother.
katbug
03-01-2007, 01:40 AM
JYoung, I won't take that bet, but will up it by $20, lol. Absolutely no question...but why not a better resemblance?
Ugh, once again Sami is getting sucked into deceiving everyone she loves. I thought she should have had a paternity test before telling Lucas she was preggers. I know it's not the popular thing to say, but she would have then been able to decide whether or not to keep the baby. The fact that she could be tied to the Dimera's and all of the insanity she's going to be facing to keep her own child away from them for the rest of her life just isn't worth it.
I still think they should have kept EJ a nice guy and just paired him up with Sami so the Dimera/Brady connection would be there, but by choice.
She should just come clean with Lucas and tell him what happened. He'll find out eventually and blame her for not telling him, making him also see it differently than what it really was. If she told him now, I think he could deal with it and they could move on. Doesn't that girl ever learn?! Oh well, I guess that's why I love that character so much...she's flawed, but keeps trying to be better, only to disappoint herself all over again. :0(
katbug
03-24-2007, 12:08 PM
Reviving the thread...
Is anyone else as tired of the Steve/Kayla storyline as I am? Last night I finally caught up on about 10 episodes, in about 2 hours. I was able to FF through most of the shows, stopping only at scenes that I thought would be interesting (Sami, Chelsea-whom I've never been a fan of, but think the Nick drama is interesting and sad-, and Shawn & Belle), but skipped through everything with Steve/Kayla/Bo/Hope, etc.
I didn't miss a thing! I still know exactly what's going on...I don't know, kinda feels like a lot of filler lately. Am I the only one getting this feeling from Days? I hope it gets more interesting soon.
I guess mostly I'm just disappointed 'cuz I was so excited for Steve and Kayla to be back on the show and it hasn't lived up to what I hoped it would.
cwoody222
03-24-2007, 02:14 PM
Gee, Days ruined an opportunity to use a fan favorite character/actor they brought back? I don't believe they've ever done THAT before! ;)
original Roman... Jack... original Billie... Austin... Carrie...
Shall I go on?! ;)
Yea, the Steve/Kayla story is boooooring. Such a waste. And it COULD be good... mysterious past, Stefano mind control, etc. Just like John Black in the late '90's. But instead it's awful.
And I'm missing Mimi :(
Sami/Chelsea/Nick is my favorite story right now.
katbug
03-24-2007, 02:51 PM
You're right, it is certainly a pattern with them to waste the characters' return, isn't it? Usually isn't it because a head writer will want them back and have tons of ideas for them, then quit or be replaced by someone who doesn't want them back, so they make them as boring as possible? I think that's been the case at least once before, but I don't follow that side of things very closely, so can't be sure.
It's pretty sad when you almost hope that your favorite characters don't return, for fear of them ruining them for you. This absolutely could have been a real opportunity, but they just made them a snooze-fest. Too bad, 'cuz I used to be a big fan of Steve/Kayla.
Sami's always my favorite story. I'm very surprised to be interested in the Nick/Chelsea storyline, but somehow they've really made Chelsea grow through all of this stuff, and it's actually made me interested in her! I never thought that I'd say that!!
Does it seem like they are gearing up for a EJ murder/whodunit? So many people are threatening to kill him, or at least discussing it...makes me wonder. But then, it would almost seem like a waste to kill off the Stephano-In-Training character. Then again, I'm sure he's inherited the ability of the Phoenix to rise from the ashes...
JYoung
03-26-2007, 11:12 PM
I'm getting tired of every woman Shawn meets having a Fatal Attraction to him.
cwoody222
03-26-2007, 11:19 PM
Just women? :)
http://perezhilton.com/topics/lance_bass/dont_feel_sorry_for_lance_20070129.php
katbug
03-27-2007, 07:20 PM
Yeah, I don't know what the deal is with the women in Shawn's life...always psychos. Sure, he's great looking, etc., but fatal attraction? Enough already! I was really hoping that these two would catch a break on the island, but it looks like "break" is exactly what the island girl is hoping for. It would have been nice if they'd just been able to have some rest and relaxation for a short while.
Peter000
03-28-2007, 12:27 AM
Shawn is a psycho himself. I guess in this case likes attract.
Though if I were in love with someone as wishy-washy and irrational as Belle, I'd be a little psycho myself.
SnakeEyes
05-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Who wants to give me a brief rundown of what's going on right now.. now that The Phoenix is coming back :)
cwoody222
05-03-2007, 11:10 AM
Oh wow, I didn't know that but I just checked and I guess Stefano, Tony, Lexie, Bart and maybe Anna are all coming back within the next month!!! :)
Hmm... how to summarize?
For the DiMera's at least... EJ Wells is the current villian. He's Elvis Jr... Stefano and Susan (Kristin's look-alike) kid. He raped Sami to get her pregnant with the next generation of DiMera. I'm not sure if she or we know if the father is EJ or Lucas. Lucas is unaware of this and EJ is currently playing mind games with Sami, making her life miserable and Sami is - of course - hiding this all from Lucas, threatening their impending marriage. Celeste is working with EJ but Sami doesn't know it.
Lexie and her sometimes-lover TEK are missing; supposedly made to "disappear" by EJ because Lexie knew that EJ was behind shooting John... and then subsequently using Steve "Patch" Johnson to take John's kidney to give to Stefano.
Patch is back but being controlled/brainwashed by EJ and the DiMera's. He's in a mental institution and his wife Kayla is trying to help him. Their daughter is back as a rebellious young adult.
On the young adult front... all that's really left is Shawn & Belle. They discovered that Belle's daughter is theirs, not Philip Kiriakis'. But Philip still wants the kid. Shawn & Belle are running from him... currently on a tropical island (naturally) and have recently rekindled their relationship. Shawn also had an affair with an ex-hooker who is working with Philip and trying to drive a wedge between Bo and his daughter (see below). She's supposedly pregnant with Shawn's kid who Hope & Bo want to raise. Hope just had a baby also, by the way, who we never ever see.
On the teen front... Georgia, Bo and Billie's dead infant from the swamp surrounding Maison Blanche way back when is back and all grown up and now is named Chelsea. She's a rebellious teen trying to change her ways but everyone blames her for everything... same old story. She's dating Nick, who's a Horton, somehow a cousin of Hope's. Theirs is the "beauty and the geek" story of the moment. Their relationship is strained due to Nick losing his virginity to Billie one night when Billie fell off the wagon.
Chelsea's best friend is Jenn & Jack's daughter, Abby. Jack & Jenn are off running the London branch of the Spectator (seriously?!). Abby is dating Max Brady... Frankie's brother who was taken in by Shawn & Carolyn Brady back when.
Marlena has just sat by John's bedside for the past few months so no story there.
Kate is doing her usual... trying to break up Sami and Lucas. She also had a brief fling with EJ, who she works with. Billie also had a brief fling with EJ, who she also works with. Billie also had a brief fling with Patch. And don't forget virgin-Nick... Billie gets around :)
I think that's basically the highlights...
JYoung
05-03-2007, 02:10 PM
I wasn't aware that Billie slept with E.J.
It's been portrayed the she has a thing for him but it hasn't gone anywhere.
cwoody222
05-03-2007, 02:22 PM
Oh, OK then. I probably remembered wrong. She still gets slut points for her daughter's boyfriend, though :)
katbug
05-03-2007, 04:12 PM
Great recap! I wasn't about to take it on, lol.
Only one correction: Billie never had a fling with EJ. She made sure to emphasize to him that it was STRICTLY business.
Edited because I'd left this recap open for 2 hours and someone else corrected this in the meantime.
I wouldn't give her slut points for sleeping with Nick since Chelsea wasn't interested in him at the time.
nirisahn
05-03-2007, 06:43 PM
I still don't get the EJ Wells thing. That character should be about 10 years old. I know they age kids quickly in soaps, but this is ridiculous. EJ has to be over 30.
This show seems to have a thing about Steve and kidney transplants. Steve gave Jack a kidney, now Steve kidnaps John so John can give Stefano a kidney.
I don't remember Judi Evans as Adrienne Johnson. In fact, I've been watching 'Days' since 1978 and don't remember the character at all. 'Days' sure does love to recast their actors and keep them around.
I do remember when Judi Evans was on 'Another World'. Can't remember the character's name. Boy, I miss that show.
katbug
05-03-2007, 09:02 PM
Judi Evans was Adrienne back when Victor's son, Justin was on the show. She married Justin (and was very emotional). Everyone back then speculated that she was Mary Beth Evans' sister (Kayla), which they aren't.
On Another World she was Paulina Cory. Mac's illegitimate daughter. I miss that one too and was starting to watch it on SOAPNET. Wish they'd run Santa Barbara there. That was the absolute best one ever on IMHO.
nirisahn
05-04-2007, 02:14 AM
Judi Evans was Adrienne back when Victor's son, Justin was on the show. She married Justin (and was very emotional). Everyone back then speculated that she was Mary Beth Evans' sister (Kayla), which they aren't.
....
Do you have any idea how long ago this was. I've been trying really hard to remember, but I don't remember her or Justin Kiriakis.
katbug
05-04-2007, 09:53 AM
1987-1991
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_Evans_Luciano
cwoody222
05-04-2007, 10:03 AM
whoa whoa whoa... that's Bonnie?! I knew Bonnie played someone else but I totally didn't recognize her with the red hair the other day (of course I was barely paying attention since I could care less about that storyline).
I don't remember her either and I started watching around 1990 I think (when did Marlena and the original Roman return?).
katbug
05-04-2007, 10:35 AM
Not sure on the exact date, but they talk about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Days_of_our_Lives_storylines#John_Black
Ooh, I'm liking Wikipedia...good past info.
I skip through the Kayla/Steve stuff most of the time too. It bores me to tears...wish they'd make better use of fan fave returns.
They really did change up Judi's look for the role. Quite a change from her original Adrienne too, but I guess they really wanted to force the issue that she wasn't Bonnie anymore. They shouldn't have left us seeing Bonnie emotional. Adrienne was always very emotional and they're not going to be able to fully revive her character without that, but it's too soon after we say Bonnie crying to allow her to do it (not that I like Adrienne's constant crying, but it really defined her).
P.S. Here's a direct link to Adrienne's past storyline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Johnson
unicorngoddess
05-04-2007, 10:40 AM
Justin and Adrian were one of my favorite couples...I remember them and I'm only 25 so it couldn't have been that long ago. If you've been watching since '78 the memories are bound to be locked away somewhere :)
Dustin's site has a good recap on her character: http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/characters/kiriakis.html#adrienne
Entrance onto Show: 1986 ran away from her abusive father Duke
katbug
05-04-2007, 10:44 AM
Correction: Justin was Victor's nephew, not son. Sorry about that!
cwoody222
05-04-2007, 11:32 AM
I just found this:
Marlena returns to Salem - August 12 - 1991
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/4586/
That makes sense... she probably was found on St. Christobol island in June or July. I know I started watching during a summer in high school so that would fit.
I think I just missed Justin/Adrienne.
mythica23
05-04-2007, 02:49 PM
im very happy with the direction the show has taken within the last few weeks..
ej and sami are classic.. this is honestly the first time i have been into this show since the 90's and the demon possesion
...
i also hear that they are bringing back 10 fan favorites.. wich is great after the mass exodus..
rallying the forces of good to battle the forces of evil so was written in soap digest ..
to finally bring about the truth about the dimeras and their denoucment
YAY days please please stay course...
the ratings have never been this low in the history of the show... i hope that these great storylines arent arriving too late..
sorry i havent posted in long time.. havent felt urged too.
i was so shocked by celeste wow i shoulda seen it but didnt..sigh i was hoping she would be the one to kill ej..
cause she was always one of my favorites.. just damn james e riley made her laughing stock during marlena seriel killer storyline.
wich i guess he did that to the doctors and well.. everyone in town took stupid pill..
anyway..
thank god for fresh storylines..
and oh yea if passions can get picked up by directv then days should be on another 30 years lol ... at least..
nirisahn
05-04-2007, 03:01 PM
....... Here's a direct link to Adrienne's past storyline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Johnson
I just got done reading the whole recap, and I don't remember a bit of it! The only part of that whole thing I remembered was Yvette. When she was on 'Days' I recognized the actress from another show, so she kind of stuck with me.
I guess Judi's first stint on 'Days' preceded her appearance on AW, and I didn't really notice or remember her. How weird. It's not like it was a short storyline. Apparently it was rather long and involved. I had a VCR then and taped it every day to watch it. I must be getting old.
SnakeEyes
05-04-2007, 05:30 PM
He's coming back! Quick, hide Marlena... before Stefano does.
mythica23
05-04-2007, 11:48 PM
giggles
i hope he finally gets her... i mean he def loves her.. and if he is still obsessed then that means to me he is keeper.;
stephano and marlana forever yay
SnakeEyes
05-05-2007, 04:49 AM
See that is what I have always said. Stefano is just misunderstood. People fail to credit him for his devotion to and passion for Marlena. I think Stefano and Marlena would be a happy ending to the storyline.
katbug
05-05-2007, 01:58 PM
Oooh, I'd love a Stefano/Marlena coupling. Mostly 'cuz I can't stand Marlena and would love to see the torment he could bring to her, bwaaahaaahaa! Actually, it would be good for her to be a little bad for a change.
I thought that Celeste might be setting Sami up, but wasn't sure back when it started. It just didn't make sense for her to team with Sami (though I could accept the possibility), but when it was all about Sami having to be the one to do it...well, it just didn't make sense that Celeste refused to do it herself with how much she wanted it done. I didn't factor Lexie in for some reason though...hmmm.
I still wish that they'd kept EJ as a redeemable character, and let him and Sami fall in love to unite the Brady's and the Dimera's (yeah, this has been done in a roundabout way in the past, but Sami and EJ would have been perfect...Sami has just enough bad girl in her, and EJ could have had just enough good guy in him that it would have been an interesting dynamic). Oh well, I'm sure we'll get to see Lucas turn against Sami once again. Hohum. She really should watch all her past episodes and figure out that honesty really would be the best policy with Lucas. Grrrr!
mythica23
05-05-2007, 07:25 PM
actually katbug lucas may just prove himself to sami and u .. this time around.
to me in hospital day he wheeled sami out and fire extinguished kate and ej......made me already think he knows ..
katbug
05-06-2007, 12:58 AM
I hope you're right mythica! There's nothing I'd like better than for him to stick by her for a change.
katbug
05-11-2007, 05:56 PM
OMG, could the new Stephanie be any worse?! Not that I really liked the old one, but at least she had her own thing happening...now she's a Chelsea clone. Yuck! And now all of a sudden, everyone's interested in her? Not buying it. Go away new Stephanie! :0(
nirisahn
05-11-2007, 06:50 PM
OMG, could the new Stephanie be any worse?! Not that I really liked the old one, but at least she had her own thing happening...now she's a Chelsea clone. Yuck! And now all of a sudden, everyone's interested in her? Not buying it. Go away new Stephanie! :0(
I like the old Stephanie better. This new one is getting on my nerves. Aside from the crummy script writing for her character, the actress's voice is getting on my nerves. They can write her out of the show any time now.
Another story line that can go away is the whole Belle, Shawn, Phillip, Claire thing. It just keeps getting worse and worse. I'm about a week behind on watching right now, but it's getting to the point where I don't care who winds up with Claire as long as this stupid storyline ends.
This used to be my favorite soap. If it doesn't get better soon, I think I may finally stop watching, and I've been watching for almost 30 years! :mad:
katbug
05-11-2007, 07:42 PM
I know that feeling! I actually did cancel my SP for a few months and didn't miss it one bit. Then on a slow afternoon I happened to watch and got sucked back in.
ITA about Phil/Belle/Shawn/Claire...enough already. It's just stupid! Don't read on if you're behind...next comment is about today's show.
It's about darned time that Lucas stands behind Sami and proves that he can be trusted not to desert her when she messes up! I also loved that they gave her the reaction to his newfound maturity that she should have had. Now I really believe that they can be the strongest couple on the show. It's been a long time coming, but they are finally where they should be. Yeah!!!
SoBelle0
05-14-2007, 11:01 AM
I completely agree! I hadn't been watching for a while, but decided to check back in on Friday's show and I'm so delighted to have seen a new start for Sami and Lucas. Yeah!!!
I ff'd through the Phillip and Belle bits - and don't think I caught the new Stephanie. Maybe I ff'd her as well... I'm curious, since I thought she was leaving, what did she say brought her back to Salem?
cwoody222
05-14-2007, 11:17 AM
I think Stephanie came back at her mom's request to try to "reach" her dad... Crazy Patch.
I could care less about the actress and the character. Lose her. The old actress was on "Ugly Betty" this week :)
Count me as another fan of Lucas and Sami and them FINALLY letting one of Sami's guy's stick by her instead of bolting the minute they learn that Sami lied to them about something.
nirisahn
05-14-2007, 06:08 PM
Yaay for Sami and Lucas. It's about time!
mythica23
05-17-2007, 04:51 PM
amen im so thrilled with sami and lucas....
he is finally the man he was meant to be.
now if they could just bring back carrie without.. austin... hmmmmm
i cant wait to see adrian dimera.. for she was before my time...
as i have stated i only started n early nineties.. when marlena was possessed.
i also sorta remember a stormy night episode.
and the carly being burried alive storyline. kinda not really though..
i wish they could do a primetime episdoe like that again,,
i was honestly too young to even remember aside from someones car going off bridge lol..
i did catch a gh prime time episode in the mid nineties that got me into gh hard core for
year called twist of fate.. really classic episode.
to me thats something days should attempt again.. a very fast moving prime time episode.
wich i know wont happen just wish it could once while i was fan of the show.
i hope days stays at this pace. i am really loving it lately.. i havent loved it this much since
the nineties..
dont u all think it would be smart move if done well to have prime time episode of days of
our lives? one with lots of twists.. and like two hours long...!!!!
anyway shew. wish i was in charge.. then all would be well.
giggles
katbug
05-19-2007, 09:10 PM
Actually, Adrian was a Johnson (Steve and Jack's sister), but is now a Kiriakis.
I'm still having a hard time reconciling EJ as Stephano's son. I wish I could remember that time a little better, and know it was just 1997, but Stephano and Susan Banks? I just don't remember them hooking up. I remember her impersonating Kristin, but don't remember her hooking up with Stephano.
cwoody222
05-19-2007, 09:43 PM
I don't think they hooked up. More like Susan was the surrogate to carry Stefano's kid. I think the plan was to have Kristin and Tony raise the baby, not Susan.
katbug
05-19-2007, 09:55 PM
Aha! Yes, that does sound familiar, lol. Thank you cwoody! That was really weirding me out. ;0)
JYoung
05-20-2007, 01:03 AM
I don't think they hooked up. More like Susan was the surrogate to carry Stefano's kid. I think the plan was to have Kristin and Tony raise the baby, not Susan.
Then you forgot the bit where Stefano dressed up as Elvis to seduce her.
SoBelle0
05-21-2007, 11:03 AM
Oh gosh! No thanks for those memories JYoung. :p
JYoung
05-21-2007, 12:29 PM
And hey, it was in a flying saucer to boot!
Susan was a UFO groupie, an Elvis Presley groupie, and not that bright, but Stefano needed another heir for insurance purposes.
So he had his men kidnap Susan (as she was physically viable), drug her and take her to a spaceship set.
Where Stefano, dressed up as jumpsuit Elvis, did the deed with her and impregnated her.
(I would think that this is technically rape.)
Stefano then brought Susan to Kristen and had her made up like Kristen so that Kristen could continue to fake being pregnant in order to hold on to John.
Stefano planned for John and Kristen to raise his heir.
Of course the truth eventually all came out, (but not until Susan had locked both Kristen and Marlena in the Secret Room) during her Elvisfied wedding to John.
(Her false teeth got knocked out of her mouth during the ceremony.)
John and Marlena forgave Susan and smuggled her out of the country to England where she was shown meeting and falling for Edmund Crumb.
How Stefano found out about that and reclaimed Elvis Jr. has not been revealed.
jon777
05-21-2007, 01:54 PM
And hey, it was in a flying saucer to boot!
Susan was a UFO groupie, an Elvis Presley groupie, and not that bright, but Stefano needed another heir for insurance purposes.
So he had his men kidnap Susan (as she was physically viable), drug her and take her to a spaceship set.
Where Stefano, dressed up as jumpsuit Elvis, did the deed with her and impregnated her.
(I would think that this is technically rape.)
Stefano then brought Susan to Kristen and had her made up like Kristen so that Kristen could continue to fake being pregnant in order to hold on to John.
Stefano planned for John and Kristen to raise his heir.
Of course the truth eventually all came out, (but not until Susan had locked both Kristen and Marlena in the Secret Room) during her Elvisfied wedding to John.
(Her false teeth got knocked out of her mouth during the ceremony.)
John and Marlena forgave Susan and smuggled her out of the country to England where she was shown meeting and falling for Edmund Crumb.
How Stefano found out about that and reclaimed Elvis Jr. has not been revealed.
I'm really glad I wasn't watching during this phase of the show... Ugh! :eek:
cwoody222
05-21-2007, 03:01 PM
Oh no, the Susan stuff was AWESOME! That was Days at it's best. It was so much fun back then! It sounds awful but it really wasn't. Really! It was hilarious!
How can you not laugh at Susan?! :)
http://members.tripod.com/~ihana/susan.jpg
DancnDude
05-21-2007, 03:05 PM
Susan was by far the best part of Days when I was watching it. The teeth flying episode was my favorite :D
And now that you mentioned it, I do remember Steffano-Elvis LOL
katbug
05-21-2007, 07:03 PM
I never forgot the Elvis wedding (especially the teeth, roflmao!), but had forgotten the rest. Thanks for refreshing my memory! It's all coming back to me now.
I agree, I thought I was going to hate the Susan storyline since it was so out-there, but it actually was a ton of fun! She played it really well.
Peter000
05-21-2007, 07:28 PM
Today's episode was pretty good, I thought. First one I've watched in about a month. I really enjoyed Bo and Steve's face-off.
mythica23
05-22-2007, 09:36 AM
i always liked laura horton.. and that was one heck of a jaw ..
some episodes i wish i still had..
wedding getting stoped.,
kristin and marlena fighting in secret room as gas is filling up the place,.
what classic tension.
where did that go.,
they used to have such great build up..
literally where i couldnt wait till next episode.
SnakeEyes
05-26-2007, 11:09 PM
what was Friday's cliffhanger?
katbug
05-27-2007, 12:32 PM
Ummm...I think it was John starting to wake up, and EJ telling Tony that he'd have to kill him to get a hand on Sami (I was only halfway paying attention, so there might have been more). Of course there's still also the thing with Claire missing too.
JYoung
06-05-2007, 02:39 AM
Is Jeremy Horton the son of Mike Horton from his first marriage?
ETA:
Wait.
Isn't Dr. Rolf dead! :eek:
cwoody222
06-05-2007, 06:52 AM
Is Jeremy Horton the son of Mike Horton from his first marriage?
I think so. Wasn't he living in Israel?
Was that the pilot guy the girls want to work for? I only remember them saying that the other one is Abe's nephew.
unicorngoddess
06-05-2007, 10:31 AM
Yeah, Jeremy is Mike's son. Apparently Jeremy and Jet (abe's nephew) are starting this business to fly from Salem to Vegas (because I guess Salem has a lot of high rollers?) and Stephanie and now Chelsea are going to be flight attendants.
cwoody222
06-05-2007, 10:52 AM
Actually when they first mentioned the "high rollers" I said the same thing, "Salem has high rollers?!" and then Chelsea said it too! :)
Stephanie's response was something like "every city has high rollers".
katbug
06-05-2007, 01:08 PM
I'm still having trouble reconciling Stephanie as the bad one, and Chelsea as the good one...also that Max is jealous about Stephanie seeing someone? He was SO not into her when he dumped her. Now she comes back better looking and slutty and he's suddenly interested again? A little too convoluted, and not at all interesting.
I'm surprised that they haven't made Jeremy and Jet more in the mix, considering that they're related to so many in town. It was strange that they were all asking about Jet(te?) being related to Abe, but noone asked about Jeremy Horton's relationship, when most of the town is related to him in some way? Ugh!
Sidenote: Very nice that EJ brought up Tony's relationship with Kristen, and the whole Susan/Elvis storyline to help the viewers remember that part of what's going on with the Dimeras. I hope they talk about it more to really refresh our memories more.
nirisahn
06-05-2007, 02:34 PM
If Jeremy was raised in Israel, why doesn't he have an accent? Just one more soap incongruity. At least he's actually closer to the right age than most of the younger people on this soap. The only other two even remotely close to the correct age are Will and Shawn D.
It looks like Chelsea is finally growing up in some respects. But the way she treated Nick when they were at the restaurant with Jett was awful.
Looks like little miss hooker (I've drawn a blank on her name) finally got what she deserved. Blackmailing Nick when she's the guilty one anyway really sucked.
The DiMeara's are back! I used to love Tony when he was a good guy. I'm not liking him as much as a bad guy. I'm not sure the writers know how to write dialog for him that actually sounds natural coming out Thao's mouth. I can't believe Stefano's back. I thought the actor (drawing another blank) was still under contract to a different soap.
Maybe the show is going to get interesting again? One can only hope...
cwoody222
06-05-2007, 02:42 PM
If Jeremy was raised in Israel, why doesn't he have an accent? Just one more soap incongruity.
And why/how was he in the (presumably US) Air Force with Jett?
nirisahn
06-05-2007, 03:41 PM
And why/how was he in the (presumably US) Air Force with Jett?
I missed that bit. I'm usually doing something else while I watch my soaps, so I'm only half paying attention.
I don't know if this is still true, but with an American father, he would have had dual citizenship until he became 'of age' at which point he would have to declare. I had several friends like this in high school (a very very long time ago :p ). Now back to reality!
katbug
06-05-2007, 04:46 PM
Robin's American also. Not sure how the geography ended up during the years...maybe someone else has an exact answer, but I know that Mike and Robin left for Israel ages ago...then they had Jeremy and split up. Obviously Mike came back to Salem...do we know if Robin left Israel as well? Someone (Nick?) mentioned that Robin had raised him "overseas", but didn't specify where, so everything's kinda up in the air at the moment I think.
cwoody222
06-05-2007, 04:56 PM
I believe last we heard about Mike (from Carrie when she was back), Mike & Jeremy were both still in Israel.
I wasn't so much commenting on the legalities of Jeremy being in the US Armed Forces or his citizenship... just how sloppy the writing is that they mention he didn't grow up here but he just happened to be in the same unit or whatever with Abe Carver's nephew... from his parent's home town!
Not to mention the unlikely event (not impossible) that this kid raised overseas his whole life would join the US armed forces.
Couldn't they have just said they met in the Merchant Marines or something? Maybe Steve and Bo recommended them. Oh wait, does the Merchant Marines have planes they could pilot? ;)
I guess it's not more sloppy than a Salem-Vegas "high roller" charter jet... not to mention Max plopping down $25k on these two strangers. Oh wait, BUT HE'S ABE'S NEPHEW... nothing more needed to know!
;)
nirisahn
06-05-2007, 05:00 PM
On a different subject - Stephanie with Jeremy? What is it with Bradys winding up with Hortons? One of the reasons they changed writers a couple of years ago was because the old writers were writing a family tree that was more and more resembling a shrub! They wanted to expand the family tree a little and not have so much 'inbreeding'. What do they do - another Brady-Horton match up! Enough already. Aren't there any other families in town. I think it's time for some new blood!
katbug
06-05-2007, 05:15 PM
So, who do you all think Jeremy's in cahoots with, and what exactly will he be transporting on his "charter flights"? Definitely sounds like he is up to something more than the charters and that it's just a cover. Another question...if so, is Jett in it with him, or is he as in the dark as everyone else?
JYoung
06-06-2007, 02:17 AM
I'm still having trouble reconciling Stephanie as the bad one, and Chelsea as the good one...also that Max is jealous about Stephanie seeing someone? He was SO not into her when he dumped her. Now she comes back better looking and slutty and he's suddenly interested again? A little too convoluted, and not at all interesting.
I still have problems with NuStephanie.
This 180 in her behavior doesn't make sense and you'd think she'd have made good money as a race car driver. (Of course, Max, E.J., and Stephanie no longer seem to be racing.)
And Shayna Rose was way cuter than nuStephanie.
And I swear that the last time we saw Dr. Rolf, he was dead.
He was accidently killed while spying on Rex and Cassie and they did a Weekend at Bernie's bit with him (and Bart?)
So how's he alive again?
nirisahn
06-06-2007, 03:49 PM
....
And I swear that the last time we saw Dr. Rolf, he was dead.
He was accidently killed while spying on Rex and Cassie and they did a Weekend at Bernie's bit with him (and Bart?)
So how's he alive again?
That's what I remember, too. Didn't they have him on rollerskates at one point to make draging him around easier? I really disliked the story line with Rex and Cassie as 'kids from outer space', especially Cassie, but the Weekend at Bernie's bit was pretty good. I don't remember what happened to Cassie, but I was glad when they finally wrote her out. Rex turned out to be a pretty good guy in the end. I was kind of sorry to see him go. The writers finally figure out what to do with him, and then screw it up because they don't really know what to do with Mimi.
Sometimes watching this show makes me crazy, and yet I keep watching. There must be something wrong with me that I've kept watching this day after day since 1978. It's like visiting relatives - they drive you crazy but you love them anyway!
unicorngoddess
06-06-2007, 04:00 PM
Yeah, I think Rex and Mimi covered up Dr. Rolf's "murder" so I was confused the other day when I tuned in too.
It was weird hearing Tony refer to EJ as Elvis...even weirder to hear EJ rehash the Kristen/Susan/John thing. Weird only because this happened maybe ten years ago and its pretty obvious we're not looking at a 10 year old when we see EJ...not even a teenager or a young 20-something.
And Cassie...she did come back from FakeSalem, but then went upstairs to take a nap or something and never came back.
cwoody222
06-06-2007, 04:08 PM
More on Rolf
http://www.soapcentral.com/days/whoswho/wilhelm.php
JYoung
06-06-2007, 04:37 PM
I like the entry at wikipedia as well...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Rolf
ntroduced in September 1997, Dr. Wilhelm Rolf was the DiMera family's jack-of-all-trades, having crucial involvement in many DiMera plots, including the infamous baby switch as well as the brainwashing of Hope Brady in order to turn her into Princess Gina and the creation of the 'Gemini Twins'. He was 'killed' in June 2003 when a crate landed on him and his corpse was subsequently used to fake Larry Welch's death. When Rolf rose from the dead four years later, he had returned to his old position as a lackey for the DiMera's when he was instructed to kill Samantha Roberts by poisoning her food at the hospital.
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/jonathany/images/icons/Guffaw.gif
nirisahn
06-06-2007, 04:58 PM
...
It was weird hearing Tony refer to EJ as Elvis...even weirder to hear EJ rehash the Kristen/Susan/John thing. Weird only because this happened maybe ten years ago and its pretty obvious we're not looking at a 10 year old when we see EJ...not even a teenager or a young 20-something.
...
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4835180&&#post4835180
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5120740&&#post5120740
Um...smeek?
cwoody222
06-18-2007, 12:17 PM
It's gettin' good folks! Can't believe I'm saying that! :)
I was actually shocked when Lexie was revealed last week... I thought either it was going to be Anna or that the person would keep the hood on for like a week just to annoy the viewers. Glad they didn't drag that out.
Pretty cool that they found that picture of Colleen that looked just like Sami. Is Allison Sweeny going to play dual roles this summer? (Colleen in flashbacks)
I just remembered that Anna Dimera is Carrie's mother... too bad they screwed Carrie's return up... it would have been cool if she'd be back with her mother. Oh well. I'm sure they'll mention how Carrie's too busy running a company and living happily ever after with Austin to come back to Salem to see her mother who's been dead for 20+ years. You know, priorities and all ;)
SoBelle0
06-18-2007, 01:20 PM
Crazy show!
So, this lady has Claire but is purporting her to be a boy in the pageant?
wouldn't you think the police could easily determine whether or not this child is a boy or girl?
Did I miss something else about this storyline?
I also thought it was cool when they showed that Colleen/Sami pic. Plus, it adds a bit more explanation into why EJ (or his Father) thinks that Sami is the perfect match for him.
I agree - that one episode really got my interest piqued for the coming week.
Oh, except for Stephanie. Seriously, this is the new Stephanie? I don't care for the changes they made on that one. Strong, brassy redhead - becomes ditzy, trashy-ish brunette. No thanks!
unicorngoddess
06-18-2007, 01:23 PM
Lexie's return was GREAT! It gave me the chills listening to her growling and such in that bit. Kinda reminded me of The Ring or something. But I was SHOCKED to see Lexie revealed. I didn't even know she was coming back!
DancnDude
06-18-2007, 01:57 PM
I have to admit, I just started watching last week (after like 2 years) since I heard Steffano was coming back. I'm really enjoying it again. I wish the TiVo episode title didn't say something about Lexile because I wasn't really surprised after seeing the title.
Overall, I pretty much put all the pieces together as to what all the characters are up to. Being gone 2 years and basically caught up in a week ;) Did the old Phillip just return, because I thought the Real World guy was playing him.
I LOLed at Sami not being able to run away from the forklift going at 2 miles an hour! OH NO! Seemed like an Austin Powers skit :)
cwoody222
06-18-2007, 02:04 PM
Crazy show!
So, this lady has Claire but is purporting her to be a boy in the pageant?
wouldn't you think the police could easily determine whether or not this child is a boy or girl?
Did I miss something else about this storyline?
The woman is saying that the child is all the way back home in Indiana so they can't just check that easily.
cwoody222
06-18-2007, 02:05 PM
Overall, I pretty much put all the pieces together as to what all the characters are up to. Being gone 2 years and basically caught up in a week ;) Did the old Phillip just return, because I thought the Real World guy was playing him.
I LOLed at Sami not being able to run away from the forklift going at 2 miles an hour! OH NO! Seemed like an Austin Powers skit :)
Yep, old Philip came back after they wanted to make Philip "bad" again instead of Belle's perfect husband.
Sami running from the forklift was HILARIOUS!
SoBelle0
06-18-2007, 02:47 PM
Thanks Chris! Where are they? Hadn't the pageant just ended?
Oh, I wish I'd seen Sami vs the forklift. A cohort of mine was talking about the other day, that's why I tuned back in on Friday. It did sound like an Austin Powers bit!! :D :D
cwoody222
06-18-2007, 03:35 PM
Thanks Chris! Where are they? Hadn't the pageant just ended?
Yep... and Philip, Belle, Shawn brought that up.
They called the kidnapper on her cellphone and she had supposedly already got home from Chicago, put the kid to bed, got a babysitter and then got back to the pageant for her $5k check in a matter of minutes.
Her timeline doesn't make sense whatsoever... of course the cop doesn't seem too concerned about that :D
Anyone else thought it stupid that the pageant coordinator lady just handed over the woman's personal info with nothing more than "this woman kidnapped my baby... really!" from Belle? :rolleyes:
OT... I couldn't believe Roman just threw out the hairbrush on a hunch! Talk about taking the law into his own hands!!!
unicorngoddess
06-20-2007, 08:14 PM
I don't know if we've already discussed this, but seeing Tony and Roman on today's show made me wonder...wasn't Tony suppose to be in jail and if so why aren't the cops doing about it now???
cwoody222
06-20-2007, 08:31 PM
Tony was released early by a "sympathetic judge". They implied the judge was bribed or something. But it really doesn't matter - he's legitamately out is all that matters.
unicorngoddess
06-20-2007, 08:54 PM
Okay. Thanks. I only get to watch about one or two episodes of week, but since the Dimera's return I've been trying to watch more often.
I hope they bring back Kristen and Peter too :)
JYoung
06-20-2007, 11:40 PM
You know,there's this thing called TiVo which will record all the episodes of DOOL for you.
;)
Peter000
06-21-2007, 06:45 AM
It's cool how they have every generation of Brady involved in this feud. Aside from Chelsea, yet. Though how much you want to bed that Jeremy Horton's Flying High or Touch the Sky or whatever it's called airline has some sort of Dimera connection?
Speaking of that group of kids, is there even ONE likable character in there? Jeremy is a slimy crook, Stephanie's a self-centered brat, Jett is as dull as a boat anchor, Nick is unconfident and whiney. Chelsea, the uber-troublemaker, is the best of the bunch!
It's fun though, I can watch the whole show in about ten minutes, fast-forwarding through and just stopping at highlights.
unicorngoddess
06-21-2007, 10:01 AM
You know,there's this thing called TiVo which will record all the episodes of DOOL for you.
;)
Yeah, I know...but the Tivo doesn't create the actual TIME for me to watch it. I DO record every episode I just pick and choose which ones I actually take the time to sit down and watch.
katbug
06-21-2007, 10:33 AM
Wow! Sounds like I took my vacation on the wrong week! Yeah, I should have Tivo'd it, but knowing how long I was going to be gone, and how many other shows I'd be recording, I figured I wouldn't miss much with Days. Go figure that this is when they pulled out all the stops.
Thanks for the highlights everyone At least I'll know a little about what's happening when I return to it today. ;0)
unicorngoddess
06-21-2007, 08:06 PM
LOL. Qutoe of the day from Stefano:
"What is clear and what is unclear remains to be seen!"
Well, but if it were CLEAR, wouldn't you be able to see it?
nirisahn
06-24-2007, 01:59 AM
Days always tries to develop some storyline involving the younger actors for the summer when teenagers are home to watch it. I can't think of one summer storyline that has actually been really good. They've all been an annoying waste of time. This one with Chelsea, etc., is no different.
As to all the other goings on, the DiMeras are back and so is the fun! And I always knew Anna had a thing for money, but she was never this mercenary! :) She was a joy to watch.
Maybe it's because these are the characters I've watched from the beginning, but I always find the show most enjoyable when it focuses on the older characters. If they were to bring back Eugene and Calliope, that would be the best!
JYoung
06-24-2007, 09:45 PM
Crap, hell of a time for a TiVo malfunction.
I missed Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday (I was on a business trip).
So Anna Brady-DiMera is back?
Who's playing her as Mary Frann died a few years ago?
unicorngoddess
06-25-2007, 01:37 PM
I have no memory of Anna Dimera other than she's Carrie's mother. Also Tony mentioned someone to Stefano, Rene I think, that seemed to really tick him off. Don't remember her either. Time to check out Dustin's page for a refresher...
cwoody222
06-25-2007, 02:11 PM
Anna was before my time so I don't know about her.
Wasn't Rene, Tony's identical twin brother or whatever? I think they switched places for awhile (or at least the writers made that up, after the fact, to explain something).
Can someone remind me the sequence of events with Abe going blind (again)? When did he first lose his sight? Before or after he "died" and was sent to the New Salem island? And then he got it back when he got the eyes from the baby that Chelsea ran over, right? When / how did he lose his vision again?
JYoung
06-25-2007, 06:40 PM
Anna was before my time so I don't know about her.
Wasn't Rene, Tony's identical twin brother or whatever? I think they switched places for awhile (or at least the writers made that up, after the fact, to explain something).
I believe that was Andre DiMera. Tony's identical cousin. :eek:
Can someone remind me the sequence of events with Abe going blind (again)? When did he first lose his sight? Before or after he "died" and was sent to the New Salem island? And then he got it back when he got the eyes from the baby that Chelsea ran over, right? When / how did he lose his vision again?
He started loosing his sight when he was rescued from the island.
He did get the corneal transplant from Zach.
Unfortunately, it didn't hold and he's loosing his sight again.
nirisahn
06-26-2007, 06:41 PM
Crap, hell of a time for a TiVo malfunction.
I missed Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday (I was on a business trip).
So Anna Brady-DiMera is back?
Who's playing her as Mary Frann died a few years ago?
I didn't know who Mary Frann was so I IMDB'd her. She played someone named Amanda Howard for 1 episode, and that's the only Days credit in the list. Leann Hunley is the actress who played Anna, and is playing her this time.
JYoung
06-26-2007, 08:41 PM
I didn't know who Mary Frann was so I IMDB'd her. She played someone named Amanda Howard for 1 episode, and that's the only Days credit in the list. Leann Hunley is the actress who played Anna, and is playing her this time.
Huh. A while back, I was researching Carrie's mother and I thought I saw on wikipedia or someone's web site that Mary Frann had played Anna.
I could be mistaken though.
cwoody222
07-17-2007, 09:53 AM
So... now we're supposed to believe that Tony hasn't been seen since the mid-80's and it's been Andre all along?!?!?
And they're sort of painting Tony as a pseudo good guy who may be the key to bringing down the DiMera's... if he's alive and they can find him?!
And that means John's never met his real half-brother?
Kinda cool if you ask me!
DancnDude
07-17-2007, 11:27 AM
I really like where this plot is going. Could be very fun to have good vs. evil Tony running around ;)
JYoung
07-17-2007, 06:09 PM
Huh, since I wasn't watching pre 1995 or so, I never saw "good" Tony so I kind of always thought of him as a rogue.
nirisahn
07-17-2007, 06:53 PM
I've been watching since 1978, so I do remember good Tony, and he was great. The part was well written and Thao Penghalis played him beautifully! I've never really liked bad Tony. He's not one of those villains you love to hate. He's always felt wrong, like it was a suit that didn't fit Thao very well. Maybe it's because I saw the good Tony first. Anyway, I'd love to see the return of good Tony. In fact, I'd love to see Tony and Anna together again! They were always so much fun to watch.
cpalma
07-18-2007, 08:45 AM
I say, if they have to rewrite history, this is one storyline I will look forward to.
Tony DiMera, back in the day, was so suave and debonaire. He had class, romance, and his love story with Anna was great.
Andre DiMera slipping into quicksand and living isn't any more fantastic than any of our other heros that have "died" and returned to life. Pulease, half of Salem was embalmed and lived to tell the tale with the Salem Slasher/Stalker...or one of the words that start with an "S".
I am thoroughly enjoying Anna's return.
I do have a question though, can't DOOL have summer that doesn't involve an "Island Adventure"?
JYoung
07-18-2007, 02:57 PM
I've been watching since 1978, so I do remember good Tony, and he was great. The part was well written and Thao Penghalis played him beautifully! I've never really liked bad Tony. He's not one of those villains you love to hate. He's always felt wrong, like it was a suit that didn't fit Thao very well. Maybe it's because I saw the good Tony first. Anyway, I'd love to see the return of good Tony. In fact, I'd love to see Tony and Anna together again! They were always so much fun to watch.
I saw Thao Penghalis at the Burbank Airport a couple of years ago.
He's not that good of a driver....
I do have a question though, can't DOOL have summer that doesn't involve an "Island Adventure"?
But.... but... those fake palm trees cost a lot of money.
They need to get the maximum return on the investment.
nirisahn
07-18-2007, 05:21 PM
Does anyone else remember Thao's stint on the Mission Impossible remakes? John DeLancie (Eugene on Days, Q on ST-TNG) was also in it.
I wonder - since Days brought back Tony and Anna, are they going to bring back Eugene and Calliope? Calliope was the designer for Anna's clothing business. And I really miss Eugene the mad scientist. Those were the days when Days was really fun! It used to have a lot more humor mixed in, and I miss that. AT least Bart's always good for a laugh.
cpalma
07-19-2007, 10:59 AM
I wonder - since Days brought back Tony and Anna, are they going to bring back Eugene and Calliope? Calliope was the designer for Anna's clothing business. And I really miss Eugene the mad scientist. Those were the days when Days was really fun! It used to have a lot more humor mixed in, and I miss that. AT least Bart's always good for a laugh.
Actually, they brought Calliope back for a wedding (Belle's? Mimi's?) and she was the wedding planner. She was great pitted up against Bonnie. She was written just the same and it was a great reminder of how good DOOL used to be.
What's John DeLancie doing nowadays? Eugene and Calliope were two of the best comic actors on daytime (the other set being Gina Capwell [Robin Mattson] and Keith Tibbins [Justin Deas] on Santa Barbara).
bqmeister
07-19-2007, 01:13 PM
I haven't watched this show in 20 years.
Yet I can pop into this thread and instantly know all the characters discussed.
Some things really do NEVER change.
DancnDude
07-19-2007, 01:39 PM
OK so yesterday, Jeremy was pretty scary with Stephanie in the hot tub. You can see right where this is gonna go.....right down to a showdown with daddy patchman ;)
unicorngoddess
07-19-2007, 02:08 PM
Actually, they brought Calliope back for a wedding (Belle's? Mimi's?) and she was the wedding planner. She was great pitted up against Bonnie. She was written just the same and it was a great reminder of how good DOOL used to be.
What's John DeLancie doing nowadays? Eugene and Calliope were two of the best comic actors on daytime (the other set being Gina Capwell [Robin Mattson] and Keith Tibbins [Justin Deas] on Santa Barbara).
I think it was Marlena's wedding when she was going to be marrying "Alex" who was really "Roman"
but let's not start that confusion again :)
nirisahn
07-19-2007, 06:09 PM
[QUOTE]What's John DeLancie doing nowadays? Eugene and Calliope were two of the best comic actors on daytime (the other set being Gina Capwell [Robin Mattson] and Keith Tibbins [Justin Deas] on Santa Barbara).
I just looked John De Lancie up on IMDB, and he's been a very busy boy. He's doing lots of tv guest appearances among other things. He also appears at a lot of scifi and gaming conventions.
I've almost gotten to see him in person twice. Once was at GenCon, which is a big gaming convention. I was on my way to his Q & A when someone had me (fun) arrested and thrown into the Klingon Jail. By the time I escaped, his Q & A was over and I missed it. The fact that Majel Barrett helped me escape almost made up for it.
Several years later the chorus I sing in was performing at the Aspen Music Festival, and John was a guest soloist for the piece. I got sick and wound up not doing the festival.
cwoody222
07-20-2007, 01:53 PM
So, gee, they found Tony already? Boy, that was easy. 20 years lost and it takes Marlena and John one whole episode to fly from Salem to walk up right to the spot of his island hut.
I thought they were going to have "the search for Tony" be the summer-long story. Guess not.
JYoung
07-20-2007, 02:00 PM
So, gee, they found Tony already? Boy, that was easy. 20 years lost and it takes Marlena and John one whole episode to fly from Salem to walk up right to the spot of his island hut.
I thought they were going to have "the search for Tony" be the summer-long story. Guess not.
But is this the real Tony?
DancnDude
07-20-2007, 02:16 PM
So, gee, they found Tony already? Boy, that was easy. 20 years lost and it takes Marlena and John one whole episode to fly from Salem to walk up right to the spot of his island hut.
I thought they were going to have "the search for Tony" be the summer-long story. Guess not.
Haha I was thinking the same thing. The soap opera timeframes always make me laugh. You can spend several weeks getting through a single day, then a flight might just take a few minutes, and then we have rapid aging syndrome where in one day a character can age 10 years :D
JYoung
08-07-2007, 03:28 PM
Oh My God!
They killed Bart!
You bastards!
katbug
08-14-2007, 02:40 PM
ROFL, you mean that you really believe that Bart is dead?? C'mon, he works for the Dimeras...he can't die, as evidenced by Dr. Rolph and who even knows how many others. Nah, he's just "in hiding" until they need him again. I'll never believe death to be permanent again.
Just came to also post (in case anyone was interested) that "I Wanna Be A Soap Star" (on SoapNet) is about finding someone to join Days.
Judges:
Talent Manager Michael Bruno
Mary Beth Evans
Head Writer Hogan Sheffer
katbug
08-16-2007, 10:19 PM
Ok, if no one else is going to say it....
Seriously?!? POCKET??? OMG! They should take the baby away based on the name alone!
cwoody222
08-31-2007, 09:06 AM
So is the woman running the Salem Gym being played by a man or what?! Andre looked better dressed as a woman!
JYoung
08-31-2007, 10:34 AM
I'm surprised that the hospital administrator let the operation go through if there was any question about the organ's origin.
They're usually too afraid of lawsuits, unless he's in Stefano's pockets....
cwoody222
08-31-2007, 10:51 AM
Even before Bo and Patch showed up, what excuse did Dr. Rolf give as to where he got the liver. "Oh here, I just found this, time for surgery!"
And couldn't they have just done the surgery on Stefano's jet like when they were going to take Sami's babies' stem cells? ;)
katbug
08-31-2007, 11:33 AM
So is the woman running the Salem Gym being played by a man or what?! Andre looked better dressed as a woman!
I've seen the actress before, but can't remember where and don't care enough to look her up, but it's funny you said that because I couldn't help but think that they had tried to make her and Andre look alike. I figured it would be for a "oops, wrong person...now Andre escaped again" mix-up. I haven't watched the last episode yet though, so not sure if that's the idea or not. They sure do resemble each other though! :eek:
Honora
08-31-2007, 11:55 AM
Haha I was thinking the same thing. The soap opera timeframes always make me laugh. You can spend several weeks getting through a single day, then a flight might just take a few minutes, and then we have rapid aging syndrome where in one day a character can age 10 years :D
Ah, you are talking about the soap opera syndrome which changes cute babies of questionable parentage from subjects of custody battles to horny teenagers overnight.
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