MFStools Boot CD - LBA48 Boot Disk for ALL TiVo Models

[milmo12]

So, to answer your question, "it depends..." - a noswap mode should work fine for both units, but if you are doing something like installing TurboNet or CacheCARD drivers on a Series1, then you need to use the swap mode.

I tried the new drive that seemed to complete the mfstools process successfully (with byte swapping off) but it is stuck on the "Please wait..." screen. I did try the master/slave jumper in all positions.

Maybe I'm being too stubborn, but all the instructions I read for my unit, HRD212, on weaknees and hinsdale refer to using a utility called TivoMad (for software at 2.0 or before) to make the new drive useable on my system. Could someone please explain why that is no longer necesssary and how that functionality is supplanted or available in the latest mfstools bootCD? Is there some special command I need to use in addition to the mfsbackup/mfs restore commands?

Thanks again,

[tivoupgrade]

I tried the new drive that seemed to complete the mfstools process successfully (with byte swapping off) but it is stuck on the "Please wait..." screen. I did try the master/slave jumper in all positions.

Maybe I'm being too stubborn, but all the instructions I read for my unit, HRD212, on weaknees and hinsdale refer to using a utility called TivoMad (for software at 2.0 or before) to make the new drive useable on my system. Could someone please explain why that is no longer necesssary and how that functionality is supplanted or available in the latest mfstools bootCD? Is there some special command I need to use in addition to the mfsbackup/mfs restore commands?

Thanks again,

The reason why TiVoMad is no longer necessary because at the time, there was no tool for expanding the partitions on a drive that already had the operating system on it. IE; you could add a drive using "BlessTiVo" however if you used dd to create a new drive by copying your original to a larger one, there was no way to expand the media partitions to use the additional space.

I do not recall using TiVoMad on standalone units, but I do recall using it on DirecTiVo boxes.

When MFStools came out, those tools were not required, and the software versions available for TiVo units were later than the ones you are currently running.

Consider letting your unit update to the latest version of the software (3.0) to at least eliminate that factor as a potential issue. Also consider following whatever guide you are using, to the letter, if you have an expectation of it working. As I said before, I've never paid much attention to the guides because we established our best practices for upgrading units long before either were ever written.

Lou

[milmo12]

Consider letting your unit update to the latest version of the software (3.0) to at least eliminate that factor as a potential issue. Also consider following whatever guide you are using, to the letter, if you have an expectation of it working.
Lou


I have no way of letting it update: I don't have a landline and this box doesn't have a network port. I also don't have a subscription. I've followed both guide's instructions to the letter except for the TivoMad instruction. If a subscription isn't necessary for an update is there a way to use a cell?

[tivoupgrade]

I have no way of letting it update: I don't have a landline and this box doesn't have a network port. I also don't have a subscription. I've followed both guide's instructions to the letter except for the TivoMad instruction. If a subscription isn't necessary for an update is there a way to use a cell?

Not that I know of.

OK, so here are my final words of advice on this particular issue; there's really not much I an offer because your setup is just completely non-standard.

1) subscribe to TiVo's service - your box was built with that in mind, and we are supporters of TiVo, so it will always be my recommendation
2) let your unit update; if you don't have a phone line, plug in a TurboNet card and you can update it over your network
3) if none of the above, get your hands on TiVoMad and follow whatever those older instructions actually say to do.

In case 1) or 2), you'll be able to use this CD to do your upgrade. But in 3), you'll probably end up needing a different one...

Lou

[David_NC]

I have no way of letting it update: I don't have a landline and this box doesn't have a network port. I also don't have a subscription.

The subscription is not needed for the software update, and the HDR212 should be able to manually record without a subscription.

I don't know if the early software supports serial PPP, but if you can find a drive image with the later software, the serial line can be used for guided setup.

[milmo12]

Thanks to everyone, particularly Tivouprade, who helped me through the ordeal of adding a larger drive on a Series 1 TIVO still running a version of the software at 2.0 or below. I got it working, and the Hinsdale and Weaknees guides are correct for this configuration, you do need the Edit_bootparms utility from the now defunct TivoMAD software to make it work. It can be found on the bootCD called nuboot6.iso still available, as of now, at http://www.cnunix.com/ftp/TiVo/, in the MAD32 directory. It needed to be copied to a floppy, then mounted and run as the very last step.

For those very few who may want to do an upgrade to an old Tivo with old software (the kind that can be used as a recorder without a subscription) here are a few tips:


Use mfstools 2.0 for the basic copying
Don't use a computer with any flavor of AMD K6-xxx processor (not wanting to disrupt the main computers in the house I pulled a couple oldies out of storage, big mistake)
Turnoff any overclocking on your machine
To use the edit_bootparms utility boot the new Tivo drive in byte-swapped mode (but that's not necessary for the basic copy operation)


I was able to save all my stored programs and now have 46 hours of recording available on highest quality (up from 6!). Once I recover from this experience I may try use the LBA48 kernel to see if I can get the full 160GB out of my drive, but I expect that recovery to take quite some time.

[tivoupgrade]

Thanks to everyone, particularly Tivouprade, who helped me through the ordeal of adding a larger drive on a Series 1 TIVO still running a version of the software at 2.0 or below. I got it working, and the Hinsdale and Weaknees guides are correct for this configuration, you do need the Edit_bootparms utility from the now defunct TivoMAD software to make it work. It can be found on the bootCD called nuboot6.iso still available, as of now, at http://www.cnunix.com/ftp/TiVo/, in the MAD32 directory. It needed to be copied to a floppy, then mounted and run as the very last step.

For those very few who may want to do an upgrade to an old Tivo with old software (the kind that can be used as a recorder without a subscription) here are a few tips:


Use mfstools 2.0 for the basic copying
Don't use a computer with any flavor of AMD K6-xxx processor (not wanting to disrupt the main computers in the house I pulled a couple oldies out of storage, big mistake)
Turnoff any overclocking on your machine
To use the edit_bootparms utility boot the new Tivo drive in byte-swapped mode (but that's not necessary for the basic copy operation)


I was able to save all my stored programs and now have 46 hours of recording available on highest quality (up from 6!). Once I recover from this experience I may try use the LBA48 kernel to see if I can get the full 160GB out of my drive, but I expect that recovery to take quite some time.

You are "hardcore" to say the least! Glad you got it working.

Be careful with that lba48 kernel; I'm not certain, but I don't think it will work with that older version of the software. You can read up a bit more about here (http://www.courtesan.com/tivo/bigdisk.html), as this is the guy who created it...

Lou

[milmo12]

I was able to save all my stored programs and now have 46 hours of recording available on highest quality (up from 6!). Once I recover from this experience I may try use the LBA48 kernel to see if I can get the full 160GB out of my drive, but I expect that recovery to take quite some time.

After a month of R&R following the rigors of upgrading a Series 1 with 1.3 software (e.g., finding long forgotten software utilities, teaching myself basic linux commands, trying 4 different mfstools versions, etc.) I had recovered enough to try using the LBA48 kernel on a new drive with the that old 1.3 software. It worked! My new 160GB disk is now fully utilized and has a 55 hour capacity at Best Quality.

Thanks again for the help...

[ciper]

milmo12 Would you mind giving me a copy of your truncated backup?

[cappicone]

updated 11/18/08

Thanks to feedback and contributions from many TCF members, we've updated our popular LBA48 CD (now at version 4.04) to reflect the current state of DIY upgrading for Series1 and Series2 TiVo DVR units. It will also work fine with a Series3 unit as long as you are using and IDE-SATA adapter because this CD does not contain native SATA support.

This CD is designed to replace most of the out-of-date and flaky CD's (Kazmyr's, Dylan's, etc.) that have been floating around for about EIGHT years now. It is also incorporated into our Universal Boot CD (version 11), but we have separated it here to keep the file size small, and the download free.

It is assumed you have a basic working knowledge of MFStools (or are using a decent how-to with detailed instructions) and are also aware that many bootdisks, utilities, and most importantly, the TiVo kernel for Series1 systems, and early Series2 software releases are limited to accessing only 137GB of each individual drive.

Key Features:
Native LBA48 kernel for handling of >137GB hard drives
MFStools 2.0
Toshiba/Pioneer 'unlock' util
CopyKern kernel transplant utility for Series1 units; modified TiVo kernels
dd_rescue tools
BusyBox Environment


Release notes (abbreviated):

This CD uses an LBA48 Linux kernel which is designed for use with all hard disk drives, including drives that are larger than 137GB. This CD may be used to perform standard MFStools backup and restore operations for ALL make/model TiVo systems which are upgradeable. HOWEVER, do not use this CD to restore a backup onto a drive LARGER than 137GB unless it will be used in a TiVo system whose kernel uses a comparable native LBA48 kernel or you are using tools and techniques to augment your upgrade with a user-supplied LBA48 kernel.

Units with a native LBA48 kernel are now:

All Series2 and Series3 Models running version 6.X or later of the TiVo OS


If you are intending to use larger than 137GB drives in a Series1 standalone or Series1 DirecTiVo system, you can simply use the "copykern" utility (provided on the CD) to install an updated kernel featuring LBA48 support. Just type "copykern" and follow the prompted instructions.



Note: 11/18/08 The current version of this CD (4.04) conatins updated LBA48 kernels which work fine with the latest standalone software (3.0) and the latest DirecTiVo software (3.5d) on all Series1 models.

Note: 9/11/07 The current version of this CD (4.04) contains updated LBA48 kernels which work fine with the latest standalone software (3.0) and the latest DirecTiVo software (3.5c) on all Series1 models.

Note: 7/22/07 The current version of this CD (4.04) contains updated LBA48 kernels which work fine with the latest standalone software (3.0) and the latest DirecTiVo software (3.5b) on all Series1 models.

Note: 5/12/06 New Release of the LBA48 CD (ver 4.04) includes a revised copykern and a recompiled kernel (labeled 3.10+) in the s1_kernels directory. We have done preliminary testing with this kernel in conjunction with version 3.5 of the Series1 DirecTV TiVo release and early tests are encouraging. If you have built LBA48 drives which are spuriously rebooting, or contain content that is not accessible through the "Now Playing" list, we encourage you to use copykern to transplant this newly updated kernel. Also note that you will need to use killinitrd to zap the new initrd (or use nic_config in the silicondust network driver release to achieve the same result).



If you are not using drives greater than 137GB, you may use this CD for any model TiVo without worry, with one exception: Do not attempt to use BlessTiVo on drives being added to a Series1 unit; instead, use mfsadd.

Use this CD for performing standard upgrades to units which support disk drives greater than 137GB or use this CD if you are performing an upgrade to any Series1 unit and use copykern to update to an LBA48 kernel (after you have restored your MFS backup image to your new drive.

You can use this CD for ANY Series1 TiVo unit if you are not planning on using a drive greater than 137GB. You can use this CD to bless add-on drives for Series2 units, or use mfsadd to combine two drives for any upgradable Series2 or a Series1.

One last note, MFStool 2.0 (included on this CD as well) has a bug and will not properly initialize a swap partition greater than 127MB. If you are building a SERIES1 replacement drive, and are planning on using "copykern" you can use the -s option (hit F3 for MFStool usage examples) to define a larger than 127MB swap partition, and copykern will initialize it for you when replacing the kernel.

That's it; please consult standard upgrade instructions (hinsdale or weaknees for example); as this CD is designed to be compatible with their guides.

This is a lie....The CD is not free. Man i have to spend more money on this machine to make it work!

[tivoupgrade]

This is a lie....The CD is not free. Man i have to spend more money on this machine to make it work!

Welcome to the forums!

The version discussed in this thread, is free. You may want to spend just a little more time here before accusing me of lying...

[scoombs]

This is a lie....The CD is not free. Man i have to spend more money on this machine to make it work!

Which is appropriate for people who cannot locate the proper download.

[tidal]

Thanks for the tools tivoupgrade!

I had a Philips hdr112 that had 2 40gb hard drives die. I popped in the original drive and got it updated to 3.0. Then I started looking at new drives and remember the 2 series 2 that I had that had 250gb drives in them.

thanks to your copykern my tivo has 654 hours!

i used the interactive tivo upgrade command and then the copykern. no problems!

smoothest upgrade ever.

woohoo!

[Steve Palo]

I'm upgrading some old Series 1 standalones to a single big drive
from a 3.0 HDR112 image that I've used before. I've done this previously
with MFStools 2.0 mfsrestore followed by copykern.

I just tried the LBA48 4.04 tools, and the
"RESTORE -x -s 300 -zpi /mnt/dos/tivo.bak.mfs /dev/hdc" command.
The restore seemed to go ok, but got a few errors on the COPYKERN:

"tpip -s -o /mnt/kernel.orig \
-k /cdrom/s1_kernels/kernel-3.0/vmlinux-3.0.px /dev/hdc
Are you ready?" y

/cdrom/s1_kernels/kernel-3.0/vmlinux-3.0.px.gz : No such file or directory
writing 1058304 bytes to '/mnt/kernel.orig'
tpip: unknown boot block signature: 0xdbldfac2
Kernel updated!

Any ideas what the problem is on the COPYKERN? Does it really look like
my CDrom is missing the appropriate kernel file?

[tivoupgrade]

I'm upgrading some old Series 1 standalones to a single big drive
from a 3.0 HDR112 image that I've used before. I've done this previously
with MFStools 2.0 mfsrestore followed by copykern.

I just tried the LBA48 4.04 tools, and the
"RESTORE -x -s 300 -zpi /mnt/dos/tivo.bak.mfs /dev/hdc" command.
The restore seemed to go ok, but got a few errors on the COPYKERN:

"tpip -s -o /mnt/kernel.orig \
-k /cdrom/s1_kernels/kernel-3.0/vmlinux-3.0.px /dev/hdc
Are you ready?" y

/cdrom/s1_kernels/kernel-3.0/vmlinux-3.0.px.gz : No such file or directory
writing 1058304 bytes to '/mnt/kernel.orig'
tpip: unknown boot block signature: 0xdbldfac2
Kernel updated!

Any ideas what the problem is on the COPYKERN? Does it really look like
my CDrom is missing the appropriate kernel file?

Looks like your CDROM may not be mounted. Its been awhile since I looked at the boot sequence for it, but I think there is an attempt to automount the CDROM when it starts up so that you can access those files.

If it didn't work, then you will get the "no such file or directory" error until you properly mount it with a command like:


mount /dev/hdb /cdrom


or something similar.

The 2nd part of the error may be an indication that your mfsrestore didn't work. Try rebooting, or doing a


tivopart r /dev/hdc


to refresh the partition table after doing a restore and then try running CopyKern again (after verifying that the CD device is mounted properly).

[Steve Palo]

Thanks very much. The mount /dev/hdd /cdrom got the copykern to work correctly. The "tivopart" resulted in an "unknown command" message. Disk still won't boot my Tivo, though. Hangs at "wait a moment..." message.

Now, do you know how to look at the kernel logs when a tivo disk is connected up to a pc? I don't know the proper mount command needed in order to see what is on the disk.

[MontyL]

Some laughing may be involved here, but not from my side of the screen:

Just purchased, downloaded and burned the LBA48 4.04 ISO with killhdinitrd'd kernels included (per the descriptive) after having selected my unit from the pulldown lists. SW-LBA48-DL-101 (matches my service number, so I'm certain I picked the correct one).

Just to be concise, the Philips DSR7000 I chose from the pulldown lists is a Series 2 unit, currently sporting an untouched 6.4a software load.

Imagine my surprise when the $5 purchase I made seems to have the S2 kernels but the "copykern" script doesn't have any S2 choices...

Do I a) gripe to DVRUpgrade that I ended up with something other than what I ordered or b) figure out which of the 4 S2 kernels is the one I need and dd the darned thing into /dev/hda3 and 6 or c) find out that the only way I can continue is to buy the $20 InstantCake ISO?

[tivoupgrade]

Some laughing may be involved here, but not from my side of the screen:

Just purchased, downloaded and burned the LBA48 4.04 ISO with killhdinitrd'd kernels included (per the descriptive) after having selected my unit from the pulldown lists. SW-LBA48-DL-101 (matches my service number, so I'm certain I picked the correct one).

Just to be concise, the Philips DSR7000 I chose from the pulldown lists is a Series 2 unit, currently sporting an untouched 6.4a software load.

Imagine my surprise when the $5 purchase I made seems to have the S2 kernels but the "copykern" script doesn't have any S2 choices...

Do I a) gripe to DVRUpgrade that I ended up with something other than what I ordered or b) figure out which of the 4 S2 kernels is the one I need and dd the darned thing into /dev/hda3 and 6 or c) find out that the only way I can continue is to buy the $20 InstantCake ISO?

The big question is why you would need ANY of those things (or consider option a in the first place).

CopyKern and killhdinitrd kernels have nothing to do with one another; never have and never will.

Please take a look at the very first post of this thread which talks about the specifics of the FREE CD and why you would want to consider CopyKern in the first place. As for the $5 CD, it does contain the Series2 killhdinitrd kernels, but if all you are looking to do is have an expanded drive with 6.4a on it, you don't need to use a killhdinitrd kernel, lba48 or otherwise...

[MontyL]

Lou,

I'd like to network said DSR7000 with the DSR704 and the PCs in the house. I'd like to take advantage of TiVoWebPlus' conflict resolution to have the two machines share the load when 3 shows conflict. I'd like to give the better half the ability to watch her time-shifted Oprah and Dr. Phil in either location, whether she's on the treadmill or in her easy chair.

I had success with 6.2a on the DSR7000, but the 704 updated to 6.4a before I'd gathered the courage to start on it. She likes the remote scheduling via directv.com better than my way of logging into TiVoWebPlus, she's accidently deleted enough shows that "recently deleted" was an instant hit, so I'm damned if I try to downgrade it to 6.2....

The 7000 was networked (even replaced the USB-Ethernet adapter with a completely different device once), had mfs-ftp, vserver, TivoWeb running, all was good. Unfortunately for me, I lost it all; the power supply suffered a catastrophic failure during the same event that crashed the drive, and no backup had ever been made since everything was done via the network while onboard the DirecTiVo.

The reason I'm looking for killhdinitrd or a kernel is that the "native" usb drivers don't appear to work with the adapters I have, so I'm trying to work with Jamie's backported drivers. hdinitrd (from what I've been able to gather with my scattered brain, correct me if I'm wrong) prevents such replacements.

The killhdinitrd on the 4.04 ISO gives "fatal: no exploit found for this kernel", none of the 4 S2 kernels work (all panic according to the logs) and just dropping the backported drivers into place results in their disappearance after the DirecTiVo reboots a few times...

Tell me I'm an idiot, then point out the error of my ways with concise directions. I've had a headache for a week trying to figure this out, and she's starting to get cranky about not having a working television in the bedroom.

[tivoupgrade]

The killhdinitrd on the 4.04 ISO gives "fatal: no exploit found for this kernel", none of the 4 S2 kernels work (all panic according to the logs) and just dropping the backported drivers into place results in their disappearance after the DirecTiVo reboots a few times...

Tell me I'm an idiot, then point out the error of my ways with concise directions. I've had a headache for a week trying to figure this out, and she's starting to get cranky about not having a working television in the bedroom.

Your request is way beyond the scope of this thread, and what you are asking me to do is not trivial. What I'd recommend you do is revisit the methods you used when upgrading your 6.2 system. The same kernels should work for the same reason that our PTVnet software CD's for both 6.2 and 6.4 use the same killhdinitrd kernels, from what I recall, and these kernels are provided on the $5 CD you purchased. There is a lot more to getting USB Ethernet drivers running, however.

If you are looking to save time then you might want to consider some of the other DIY tools we offer (or a preconfigured kit).

Lou

[MontyL]

Lou,

I understand. To stay within the confines of the thread, then, do you know offhand which of the 4 kernels found in s2_kernels is the correct one for a directivo running 6.4a? Eliminating 3 wrong choices will aid my quest greatly.

S2_kernels
. 3_1.1.C
. 3_1.5
. 4_0.1A
. 7_2.2_O

BTW, I found my original backup image this morning, restored it to an old drive, dropped the kernel and the backported drivers into place, edited as needed, stuffed it in the DirecTiVo and booted it up... I'm telnet'd into it at this very moment. Proof of concept; the drivers, adapter and settings work, I just need to figure out the difference between 6.2 and 6.4a...

Thanks for your time

[halfempty]

I have a DSR704 and a DSR708, both hacked and running 6.4a with Jamie's backport drivers on the 7.2.2 kill'd kernel from the DRVupgrade boot CD. Hope this helps.

[MontyL]

7.2.2 it is, then. Thanks!

[djliquidice]

May i suggest *not* using a windows-only self extracting executable but instead allowing a plain ol zip for users/customers who don't use windows?

Anyone with modern OS's (Window XP+, OSX 10.4+ and modern linux distros) have inherent built in capability to extract regular zips.

Thanks, :)

[djliquidice]

Just an FYI for many folks using *ix systems,

you can easily extract the iso from the Ext by the following command line:

macbook:Downloads jgarcia$ ls ptv*
ptvlba48-4.04.exe ptvlba48-4.04.iso

macbook:Downloads jgarcia$ unzip ptv*
Archive: ptvlba48-4.04.exe
inflating: ptvlba48-4.04.iso

macbook:Downloads jgarcia$ ls ptv*iso
ptvlba48-4.04.iso

[tivoupgrade]

Yeah, it probably would be a good idea to change the format of the file. I just checked and the date on that distro is November of 2006. Certainly a lot more Macs and Linux boxes around now...

Here is an alternate link to a plan old zip version:


LBA48 4.04 (ZIP) (www.dvrupgrade.com/dvr/stores/1/downloads/BOOTCD/ptvlba48-4.04.iso.zip)

[djliquidice]

I'm very confused. Trying to do a 1 to 1 upgrade of my 160GB drive to a 400GB drive:

Using the following command:

mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hdc \ #(source drive)
| mfsrestore -r 4 -zxpi - /dev/hda #(destination, 400GB Drive).




i'm getting:

"Restore failed: backup target not large enough for entire backup itself."

I don't get it. What am i doing wrong? I can see that the linux OS can recognize the entire 400GB.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
-Jay

[djliquidice]

ok, is it that the 160GB drive is a drive that was once upgraded? can we not backup from previously upgraded drives?

[halfempty]

ok, is it that the 160GB drive is a drive that was once upgraded? can we not backup from previously upgraded drives?
Yes and no. It depends on what version of mfstools you are using. WinMFS can do it, and I *THINK* the new 1.4 mfslive iso can do it, but the switches are different. Check over in their forum if no one here can easily remember, my foggy old brain isn't up to the task right now.

[djliquidice]

Thanks dude, i just posted there. boye the wife is getting angry without a tivo. imagine - having to schedule our lives around tv for a few days. heh. ;)

[jangelj]

TCF gets way more traffic, so thought I ask here, too.
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OK, my S1 phillips (previously upgraded to 250GB) started locking up. I have another 250 GB drive, so I tried winmfs. it got stuck about half way through the copy process (I was trying to preserve my recordings). It seemed like it was trying to repeatedly read the same spot on the HD. So I thought I'd try to boot with mfslive and do a "backup -qTao - /dev/hdc | restore -s 128 -nzi - /dev/hdd" It is copying right now (12% and counting).

My question is, with the newest version of mfslive (1.4) is the patch to rescue dying HDs part of the backup |restore command? Or is this something I need to run separately? (see - Patch to rescue TiVo drive with errors - patch submitted by terativo (http://mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=955))

I know about dd_rescue and will try that next if my backup|restore does not work, but this patch sounds like it may do the trick.
John

[RedWingsRULE!]

I have a TiVo HD with a 1TB InstantCake drive that is now failing. I have a new 1TB drive and want to copy everything to the new drive. What are my options?

[HomeUser]

I have a TiVo HD with a 1TB InstantCake drive that is now failing. I have a new 1TB drive and want to copy everything to the new drive. What are my options?

One option is
dd_rescue (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=190306) You will need a boot CD like MFSLive (http://mfslive.org) that works with the SATA drives.

[RedWingsRULE!]

Thanks, but WinMFS was what I used and it was SOOOOOO simple. WinXP did stomp on the boot sector, but WinMFS repaired that and it copied 1TB in about 4 hours. GREAT product, no burning needed, just hook them up to a Windows PC and run the EXE.

[tivoupgrade]

Thanks, but WinMFS was what I used and it was SOOOOOO simple. WinXP did stomp on the boot sector, but WinMFS repaired that and it copied 1TB in about 4 hours. GREAT product, no burning needed, just hook them up to a Windows PC and run the EXE.

WinMFS is not part of the LBA48 Boot Disk; it's an entirely different software tool and requires a Windows-based PC for use.

The LBA48 CD includes mfstools which can be used to accomplish the copy process. Please see the 1st post of this thread for links to guides on mfstools usage.

Lou

[pes123]

tivoupgrade, you are absolutely right. WinMFS is NOT part of the LBA48 Boot Disk. it's an entirely different application.

[martinfick]

I am trying to upgrade my series 1 Tivo from an already upgraded single 500G disk (which means I already have an LBA48 kernel and larger swap working) to a dual drive system (yes, all 500G full). I have the original drive "dd"ed to a backup (and tested backup) so no worries here.

If I use the mftools2.0 with large disk support to perform:
mfsadd -x -r 4 /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
(hdc is drive with data, hdd is new drive), the mfsadd seems to work fine. mfsinfo indicates the correct amount of new space. But, when I insert the two drives back in the tivo it will not boot. No green screen, nothing... If I reinstall my backup, it boots fine. I tried this with two "new" drives, first a 500G one and then a 100G one, same results.

I thought that perhaps my power supply could not handle the second drive? To test this theory, I plugged in both drives to the power supply, but only the restored original drive to the IDE cable and the system boots fine. I assume the current draw in this setup would be similar to running both drives. So, it appears I do not have a PS problem. Additionally, I plugged the upgraded non-working pair into another tivo and it cannot boot them either.

So, my questions are: "any ideas what could be wrong, why I cannot upgrade again? (I have enough partitions left)" Also, has anyone upgraded a 500G series 1 tivo beyond 500G with a second drive? Should what I am doing even work?

Thanks for any hints or new tests to try... I would really like to be able to add more space to this tivo,

-Martin

[stingray]

I no longer using a hard drive that was used for my Tivo. I bought an enclosure and i went to the seagate website and downloaded the diagonostic tools. But when I connect the HD to both my Mac and Pc, the Hd is not recognized.
In my research, it appears that I need to get a linux boot Cd and then I can reformat my hard drive and put Os or windows in it.

Can I use this Cd for that?

[smw6230]

I can't seem to get the LBA48 CD to mount properly.

I just upgraded a Series 1 (Philips) from 40gb in WinMFS to 320gb.

The last task I need to accomplish now is to patch the new drive with a hacked LBA48 kernel. That is where my problem lies.

The log scrolls by fast so I can't really study it but from what I've been able to pick out my CDROM is 'hdb' and my target drive is 'hde'.

I've let the program run through and that doesn't seem to work. I've tried mounting it with the following command;

mount /dev/hdb /cdrom

and I get the following;

mount /dev/hdb /cdrom
mount:block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /cdrom busy
mount: according to mtab, dev/hdb is mounted on /var/log/mount

So from that it looks like the CDROM may be mounted.

But when I enter copykern and attempt to modify/change the kernel for my tivo (Series 1 standalone) I get the following error.

/cdrom/s1_Kernels/kernel-301/vmlinux-3.0.px.gz:
no such file or directory
tpip:unknown bootpage signature 0xff33
kernel updated!

I'm completely stumped on how to get copykern to mount. It looks easy but obviously I'm missing something.

Also of possible note is the fact that I am operating off a computer with a single IDE channel. Therefore I have it configured as CDROM to primary IDE during boot, then after it boots, I pull the ide from the back of the CDROM and connect it to my drive.

I've tried connecting everything up, CDROM as primary master, to the IDE channel, with the drive attached on the same ide cable jumped as slave and plugged into the appropriate slot.

Can anyone help?

[Tobashadow]

Also of possible note is the fact that I am operating off a computer with a single IDE channel. Therefore I have it configured as CDROM to primary IDE during boot, then after it boots, I pull the ide from the back of the CDROM and connect it to my drive.

Umm yha you can't do that it can't mount the cd if the cd is not there anymore.

Either you need to find a older computer with dual ide or need a adapter to get a second ide channel.

Or hmm

Does your computer support boot from usb?

If so a thumb drive made bootable with the UNetbootin program using the iso feature might be what you need.

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

[tivoupgrade]

I no longer using a hard drive that was used for my Tivo. I bought an enclosure and i went to the seagate website and downloaded the diagonostic tools. But when I connect the HD to both my Mac and Pc, the Hd is not recognized.
In my research, it appears that I need to get a linux boot Cd and then I can reformat my hard drive and put Os or windows in it.

Can I use this Cd for that?

No - but you shouldn't need to. Not sure about your MAC, but I've put used TiVo HD drives in PC's (running Windows XP) at one time or another and they work fine - remember you need to go into the admin tools to configure the new drive, its not going to show up automatically... That's a Windows issue, though...

[bengalfreak]

I can't seem to get the LBA48 CD to mount properly.

I just upgraded a Series 1 (Philips) from 40gb in WinMFS to 320gb.

The last task I need to accomplish now is to patch the new drive with a hacked LBA48 kernel. That is where my problem lies.

The log scrolls by fast so I can't really study it but from what I've been able to pick out my CDROM is 'hdb' and my target drive is 'hde'.

I've let the program run through and that doesn't seem to work. I've tried mounting it with the following command;

mount /dev/hdb /cdrom

and I get the following;

mount /dev/hdb /cdrom
mount:block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /cdrom busy
mount: according to mtab, dev/hdb is mounted on /var/log/mount

So from that it looks like the CDROM may be mounted.

But when I enter copykern and attempt to modify/change the kernel for my tivo (Series 1 standalone) I get the following error.

/cdrom/s1_Kernels/kernel-301/vmlinux-3.0.px.gz:
no such file or directory
tpip:unknown bootpage signature 0xff33
kernel updated!

I'm completely stumped on how to get copykern to mount. It looks easy but obviously I'm missing something.

Also of possible note is the fact that I am operating off a computer with a single IDE channel. Therefore I have it configured as CDROM to primary IDE during boot, then after it boots, I pull the ide from the back of the CDROM and connect it to my drive.

I've tried connecting everything up, CDROM as primary master, to the IDE channel, with the drive attached on the same ide cable jumped as slave and plugged into the appropriate slot.

Can anyone help?

Here are some ideas. I too only have 1 IDE channel on my system, and I had to pull the CDROM drive and jumper it as slave, while putting the hard drive I wanted to put in the Tivo on the master connector. It was the only way to get my system to recognize both drives. Secondly, I found that the folder names for the kernels have changed on the boot disk.

Stick your boot disk in your CDROM drive, while booted in Windows, and see what the folder names are. Mine was in a folder called S1_KERNE instead of s1_Kernels. And the folders inside that folder were called KERNEL_X.X where X is the version number of the kernel you need.

Hope this helps. I had some of the same problems recently.

[tivoupgrade]

Here are some ideas. I too only have 1 IDE channel on my system, and I had to pull the CDROM drive and jumper it as slave, while putting the hard drive I wanted to put in the Tivo on the master connector. It was the only way to get my system to recognize both drives. Secondly, I found that the folder names for the kernels have changed on the boot disk.

Stick your boot disk in your CDROM drive, while booted in Windows, and see what the folder names are. Mine was in a folder called S1_KERNE instead of s1_Kernels. And the folders inside that folder were called KERNEL_X.X where X is the version number of the kernel you need.

Hope this helps. I had some of the same problems recently.

I think what you are seeing there is what windows does to compensate for FAT entries that are longer than 8 characters. The folder names haven't actually changed, though.

The the OP; have you tried just using the "df" command after booting the CD-ROM to see what devices are seen?

Not sure why you are having so much trouble - I've never tried using the CD with a drive on a single IDE system, but as long as you've got one drive configured as the master and the other as the slave, you shouldn't have a problem. You might also try disabling any SATA interfaces in case they may interfering.

Lou

[smw6230]

Here are some ideas. I too only have 1 IDE channel on my system, and I had to pull the CDROM drive and jumper it as slave, while putting the hard drive I wanted to put in the Tivo on the master connector. It was the only way to get my system to recognize both drives. Secondly, I found that the folder names for the kernels have changed on the boot disk.

Stick your boot disk in your CDROM drive, while booted in Windows, and see what the folder names are. Mine was in a folder called S1_KERNE instead of s1_Kernels. And the folders inside that folder were called KERNEL_X.X where X is the version number of the kernel you need.

Hope this helps. I had some of the same problems recently.

Thanks bengal, I got it fixed. There actually wasn't a problem with drive configuration. Everyting worked with CDROM master (hda) and the Tivo drive as slave (hdb). My real problem, posted in a non-sticky thread, was this was my first attempt at an upgrade and having gotten to the LBA48 kernal part I didn't want to screw up my new drive. So instead I was using a WD2500JB hard drive that was corrputed in another tivo as a test drive, if you will, to make sure that everything worked before I used my good drive.

Once I figured out that the error stemmed from the inability of the boot CD to read/write onto the test drive, everything went smoothly after I switched the drives and used the good one as the target.

Sucks that it took me two days to see that obvious problem, but........:eek:

[unitron]

If you've made it this far into the thread you're probably poor and desperate. : - )


If you're desperate, but still have a couple of nickles to rub together left over after buying that big ol' upgrade hard drive, please consider one of the commercial offerings of the sponsors who pay to keep this forum online. If you haven't bought that big ol' hard drive yet, they can hook you up with that as well, and maybe even save you having to run "copykern" in the first place.


The link (as of May 3rd, 2010) to the zip of the iso of the free 4.04 cd is

http://www.dvrupgrade.com/dvr/stores/1/downloads/BOOTCD/ptvlba48-4.04.iso.zip

and the way to mount it for the specific purpose of running "copykern" after booting it, but before running "copykern", is

mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdx /cdrom

where the "x" in hdx is

"a" if your cd drive is primary (IDE 0) master

"b" if your cd drive is primary (IDE 0) slave

"c" if your cd drive is secondary (IDE 1) master

"d" if your cd drive is secondary (IDE 1) slave

The hyphen t flag/option (hyphens indicate that what immediately, i.e., no space in between, follows is a flag/option) tells the mount command that what follows the space after the "t" is the file system used by what it's supposed to mount, and iso9660 is the standard used by data cds.


The /dev/hdx is the device you want to mount and the /cdrom is the directory you want to use as the mount point.

When you boot the computer with this cd it creates the /cdrom directory, along with some others, as a mount point. Since it's already available, use it instead of creating your own with "mkdir".

After you mount the cd drive on the mount point "cdrom", just type in "copykern" (without the quotation marks) and hit the Enter key. It will step you through the process.

Do not "cd" (change directory) into "/cdrom" first.

You can reach me by putting coastalnet.com after my username with the appropriate squiggly thing in between.

[sl8r1]

If you want a series 2 kernal, this disc is not free. $10 is trivial and not a big deal, but can we be honest?

Burning the 'free' disc and booting to prompt, only to realize that there are Series 1 kernels on there is a bit of a hassle.

[unitron]

If you want a series 2 kernal, this disc is not free. $10 is trivial and not a big deal, but can we be honest?

Burning the 'free' disc and booting to prompt, only to realize that there are Series 1 kernels on there is a bit of a hassle.

It doesn't have Series 1 kernels, it has patches for the Series 1 kernel.

If you have a Series 2, you already have LBA48 support.

[pcmodem]

Thanks for the info!

[Mfusick]

What do I need to install an upgraded hardrive in my HD tivo?

I have the Tivo HD 2160 model. The original drive died. I have a 750 gig drive and torx drivers.

What I don't have is the install CD, or any software. What software do I need ?

Where can I get it? It is free?

[dwit]

What do I need to install an upgraded hardrive in my HD tivo?

I have the Tivo HD 2160 model. The original drive died. I have a 750 gig drive and torx drivers.

What I don't have is the install CD, or any software. What software do I need ?

Where can I get it? It is free?

If the hard drive is truly "dead", then you will need to obtain an "image" of the Tivo HD software, to load onto a new hard drive. You may be able to obtain an image from the "Need an Image?" begging thread, here in the Upgrade forum, or you can buy the "Instant Cake" image from dvrupgrade.com(downloaded, burned to cd image, or mailed cd). It is $40. Includes all the software you need to create a new Tivo HD hard drive.

If you are able to obtain an image, then you can use the free tools(winmfs-easy, or the mfslive cd-more advanced) from mfslive.org to create a new hard drive. These tools can create a drive up to 1 TB in capacity. See the "Uprgrade" sticky thread in the S3HD Forum for instructions.

If you decide to upgrade to 2 TB, you will need to use the free JMFS program. Instructions here in the Upgrade Forum, but first you will need to have a working Tivo hard drive to copy. It is basically a cloning program, so does not utilize an image, per se.

Good luck.