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al_bburn
01-01-2004, 09:14 AM
Hello,

I just switched from cable to Dish Network. I have a 322 receiver, using IR for Tivo, UHF for second tuner. All seems to work ok with one very irritating exception. The 322 schedules a daily call to get program guide information and check for software updates. When its done, it power cycles itself and instead of just going to a channel, it displays "Press Select to Continue".
Grrrrrrr. Tivo cannot change the channel because it cannot press select.

I can turn off the program updates but was wondering if anyone had another way?

Thanks much in advance,

Al

stevel
01-01-2004, 09:22 AM
Does it do this EVERY night or only when there are software updates? TiVo doesn't know how to "press Select" and doesn't know it needs to.

If you can turn off the program updates, do so, and manually check for them once a month or so when you are there to restore it to normal operation.

al_bburn
01-02-2004, 06:04 AM
Thanks for the reply.

I disabled the daily program update "phone call" on the 322. While the box does not call out, something even worse happens - it displays an error at the time it would have dialed out which basically states if I don't allow it to dial I will be charged another 4.99 a month for the 2nd receiver. Now the 322s are a good deal in this regards, but it really hoses up Tivo and I love my Tivo. Seems a basic design feature of the sat boxes should be to allow channel changes to automagically elimitate the notification screens (e.g. hit enter to continue). Oh well, we don't design them, we just buy them I guess.

Any other ideas would be much appreciated.

One thought I have is to create a daily program timer that tunes to some channel, about 30 minutes after the box dials out for the program update.
If this works, at least daily manual intervention wouldn't be required. I would have a small window of "non-Tivo'able" time, but it might be the best we can do. I'll post the result.

Also, FYI - my basic setup is the Dish 322 dual tuner box (one IR remote, one UHF remote). The IR controlled tuner is out to the TiVo, over to the A/V receiver. The UHF controlled tuner is both coax to the TV input and cabled over to the A/V. This allows for an economical dual tuner for those with a separate PVR. Can watch one thing while Tivo is recording another.
It also (at least in my case) preserves some simplicity on the basic TV. Just turn it on and use the 322 UHF remote like normal. For higher quality w/better sound, flip on the A/V and use vid-x inputs on the TV.

Later,

Al

stevel
01-02-2004, 09:04 AM
The problem is that since the TiVo has no idea whether or not pressing Select is needed, and pressing that when it's NOT needed may have unwanted side effects, there's not much to be done. Dish receivers have always been a pain in that they don't allow a numeric channel change to take them off these status screens (for example, if it tunes to a channel you don't get or a PPV channel that has not been purchased.) I started out with Dish and an SVR-2000 three and a half years ago.

So I see that Dish has actually made the problem even worse in the design of the 322.... Yuck.

seanob
01-25-2004, 10:39 PM
I just moved and used to have a dish 301. now I just discovered this problem with my new 322. I HATE it. I'm gonna have them send me 2 301s instead. Its the worst possible thing this 'press select' thing.

question... my updates seem to only put in about 2 days of info. I never need this info but it seems that when there is no info I also cant get the channel to change. anyone have luck with disabling the updates and just going with none?

seanob
01-28-2004, 01:51 AM
I called Dish today and through much difficulty they are gonna come and replace my 322 with 2 301's. I have to pay a 'service call' fee but its gonna be cheaper than if I go buy my own tuners.

so... if stay away from the 322 if you are gonna order new dish network service.

zentex
02-03-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by al_bburn
One thought I have is to create a daily program timer that tunes to some channel, about 30 minutes after the box dials out for the program update.
If this works, at least daily manual intervention wouldn't be required. I would have a small window of "non-Tivo'able" time, but it might be the best we can do. I'll post the result.


so al...

did this idea work? I find myself in the same situation.

skaeight
02-24-2004, 03:20 PM
So any news on this workaround? Also, how fast is changing channels through the tivo on a 322?

JimSpence
02-24-2004, 06:49 PM
Set up a timed macro on a universal remote to press "select" at a preset time?

Or, sorry I have to say it.:D

Get DirecTV DVRs. ;)

skaeight
02-24-2004, 06:54 PM
No go on the directivo. Directv doesn't have my locals. Right now I'm still deciding between dish and directv. With directv I can get a receiver that will use the serial connection, however dish doesn't offer this. But if IR works relativly well with dish receivers I won't mind. I'm just trying to get some info to help make my decision.

Peterod
02-24-2004, 06:58 PM
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128743&pagenumber=1

DISH 322:

al_bburn writes “All seems to work ok with one very irritating exception. The 322 schedules a daily call to get program guide information and check for software updates. When its done, it power cycles itself and instead of just going to a channel, it displays 'Press Select to Continue'. Grrrrrrr. Tivo cannot change the channel because it cannot press select.”

Peterod has found the following workaround: “I have the 322 set for a 4am update connection. […] What I did was add a daily timer to ‘AutoTune’ the 322 to any sub'ed channel at 5am. The 322 is tuned at that time to the selected timer and the ‘Select Button’ screen is reset.”

ptroost
09-03-2004, 06:24 PM
I have tried this and it is not working. I set the autotune timer to 30 minutes after the call time but it doesn't "wake up" the 322 -> I still get the "press select to continue" screen. Any other workarounds or ideas? I can't believe how annoying this is. A hex on dish network!

yucl
09-26-2004, 12:34 AM
I've got the same problem but soloved it with an external power timer. I read from other places of the "manual timer" scheme but somehow it did not work for me. I did not want to spend more time to figure out why it did not work as it is painful to wake up and figure out what the receiver was doing at 4am.

What I did was using an external power control timer and set it to turn the power off and on at 4:50am and 4:52am. Everything was fine eversince. I used a digital timer that I have had for a long time without real use. I guess you can use a cheap dial one but it probably will be better to choose one with 15min interval. Make sure your schedule guide update time is before that there is enough time to finish the update.

Trading 322 with two 301 is not a very good idea to me. The 322 has the UHF remote control capability which is very useful and the guide looks much nicer than 301. In my setup, the tuner-1 in 322 goes to DVR(replay); tuner-2's ANT ouput goes to the ANT input of my HDTV; the composite output of tuner-2 goes to a video sender and was beamed wirelessly to my bedroom TV. I have a 508 sitting in the bedroom but this additional tuner can be useful when the 508 is recording but I want to watch something else live. This additional tuner-2 of 322 servers the same purpose for my HDTV too.

My house does not have a good in-home cable distribution so I have to use the video sender. However, in my case, the video sender works very well.

xaerospace
09-28-2004, 08:19 PM
I finally found a thread about this issue. I hate Dish cause of it.... ARGH!!!

I am going to try the timer work around. I have that setup right now and I don't think it is working. I do have a DVR Dish tuner, so I think I can set it up to record like 2 mins of a channel, than stop. Then let the tivo do all the "real" recording.

Anyone find any other work arounds???

bartling
02-07-2005, 07:21 PM
Does anyone know what time the DISH network call is made? Some say 4:00 or 5:00. I recorded something at 3:00 and got nothing but the screensaver. I have been doing trial and error, but that takes forever since you can only try one per night.

revscpa
02-09-2005, 01:57 PM
I believe you can change the time yourself. Go to SYSTEM SETUP on main menu. Then, to INSTALLATION and go to update. There you can choose the time of day you want the update to happen. Others have mentioned that one does not have to have daily updates. So, I'm going to try that since I'm going to be gone for a week.

TUDrewser
02-10-2005, 12:49 AM
I talked to the tech guys at Dish tonight and they said while they can't officially suggest it, if you set a daily manual timer from say 3am to 11:59pm the Dish will never go into standby mode as long as a timer is "on". He also said that no activity in 3-6 hours of time will cause the receiver to go in to the "press select to continue" mode. Seems like having a 20 hour fake recording will keep the receiver awake, then Tivo can do its thing. They also said that even if a timer is going, you can still change channels, and therefore Tivo should still be able to change channels. Plus, setting a timer will "wake" the receiver up when it comes on. I'm trying it tonight...bummed that I missed tonights episode of Alias!!!! :mad:

bruceniven
03-16-2005, 10:34 PM
Has anyone tried the 20-hour timer? e.g from 3am-1159pm. Does this limit anything else e.g. watching on the 2nd TV while recording on TiVo? And does the 20hr timer stay live even if the channel is changed?

Does the start time need to be after the daily call ends?

Does anyone know how long the daily call takes? what's a safe amount of time to wait?

Thanks all
Peace. :confused:

mdhorwitz
04-13-2005, 11:20 AM
Just wanted to say thank you for everyone's input on this board. I freaked out when, after my first night of Dish service, I realized TiVo had recorded nothing but the "press select to continue" screen. But after trying the VCR timer workaround, I haven't have any problems. I just put a daily hour long VCR timer on my system at 5am, again at 10 am, again at 5pm and have had no trouble since then.
Thank you so much!
(You also saved Dish from an earful from me)

TUDrewser
04-25-2005, 12:14 PM
This is a late reply, but setting the timer has worked perfectly. I have two Tivo's both recording off dish and I set the timer on both. Since my last post, I haven't had a single issue with the "press select to continue" screen. FYI, Dish was no help other than they helped me understand how the system worked and why the message was being displayed. When I asked them if the timer would work, there was silence for a few seconds and then, "well, I suppose that may actually work". Thanks for the brilliant ideas, Dish. But it's working like a charm now!

wkirke
04-25-2005, 01:04 PM
Does the VCR timer cause the channel to change? If so, then what happens if TiVo is trying to record a 4 hour long show and the timer occurs in the middle of it? Will that timer change the channel without TiVo realizing it?

Similarly, what does the 322's restart after an update do if it occurs in the middle of a 4 hour TiVo recording? Would TiVo just lose the signal for 30 seconds or so while the 322 reboots?

Thanks,
-Bill Kirke
I'm considering DISH, and glad I found this thread before I have equipment installed!

cbbyers
06-22-2005, 12:09 PM
This screensaver issue almost makes the 322 shlock. My 322 was installed last Friday and I've recorded several hours of that stupid bouncing logo. It's almost as if Dish secretly uses this annoyance as a way to promote the sales of their DVR based receivers. I'm not here to sell a conspiracy theory, so enough of that. I have tried all of the suggestions to keep the evil screensaver from appearing and only one of them is working for me.

I rescheduled the daily update for 0445 hours and setup a VCR timer from 0500 hours - 0430 hours the next day. The long timer is to combat the screensaver mode that comes on if the receiver has been idle on the same channel for too long -- I think the threshold is 4 hours. Occasionally my Tivo gets to rest for 4+ hours and the screensaver has enabled on each occasion.

I picked 0445-0500 because my Tivo is never doing anything at this time. The screensaver is only on for a short period of time between 0445 and 0500 after the daily call and the 23.5 hour VCR timer seems to eliminate the screensaver idle issue.

The VCR timer does change the channel and will cause Tivo to record the wrong channel, so you'll want to schedule a start time when your Tivo is idle. I tried another one of the suggestions, which was to schedule a timer for 0500, 1000 & 1500, but my Tivo is working during those hours and I ended up recording the wrong channel.

I think the best suggestion thus far is the 23.5 hour VCR timer. It is working great for me so far.

dolphan
06-30-2005, 12:06 PM
Hello,
I'm new to the forum, and TiVo. I'm having this same problem. I was horrified when I learned I had recorded nothing but the "select to continue" screen. How do I set the timer in the DISH box for the 20 hours or so like I read above. Please excuse my ignorance, as I said I'm new to all this stuff. I have the DISH box with one regular plug in and one radio controlled second remote. I don't have any recording capabilities in the box...only my TiVo, so I'm wondering what timer am I setting in DISH, and how do I do this. Does anyone have a walk through. Thanks to all for help and previous posts.

-Dolphan

aus1ander
06-30-2005, 05:14 PM
I have a 311, not a 322, but if there are any differences, and you have your manual handy, just look up "timers" in the index. Basically, if you hit "Menu" on your 322 remote, there should be a choice for "timers" in the main menu. you can then set the timer from there.

the way the timers were orginally meant to work (pre-DVR) was to tune your tuner to the correct channel and start the record button on your VCR through IR reflection. so, basically, all a timer does is tune your tuner to the stated channel. it does not record anything inherently.

dolphan
07-01-2005, 09:05 AM
That was really helpful. :up: I turned off the updates (I'm going to do it weekly) and then I also set the timer from 3:15am to 2:45am. hopefully between doing both these steps I'll not see that screen again. It really was a silly thing for them to do when designing these. Anyway....thanks again, and have a safe and happy 4th to all! :cool:

-Dolphan

dpc10@pitt.edu
08-09-2005, 05:56 AM
The most elegant solution to this problem, which removes the basic problem, i.e., the automatic call that DISH makes to update its program info, is as follows:

On Dish Remote press Menu 6 1 6
i.e., Menu, System Setup, Installation, Updates
Now you can disable the daily updates.
Keep Dish Receiver always on.
(useless information: if turned off it will update.)

Notes:
1. The DISH receiver will not be "current" on the programming, but who cares as your TIVO box will. Now your DISH receiver will NEVER make a night call that interferes with your recording late night stuff. :p To be safe, press the AUX swith on the DISH remote, or store it out of sight.
2. I believe that DISH deliberately did this to force customers to use their recorder box (how many customers have this level of technical skill). I have a 600 dollar Toshiba TIVO box that I did not want to junk in favor of an inferior product from DISH. When I called DISH service I was told that DISH and TIVO were incompatible. :down: Not true.
3. Any one interested in starting a class action suit against DISH for all the customers who were forced, by misinformation, to abandon their exisiting TIVO boxe in favor of one from DISH? I can provide technical support.

Good luck with your late night recordings,

:)

jcgearhart
08-29-2005, 11:59 PM
Regarding The Class Action Suit against Dish, I had a different theory as to the daily scheduled update and 4.99/mo. fee for the absence of a phone hookup. Dish is uploading viewing info to be sold to marketers,,,,, etc. And the enticing package offered with the 322 includes the user agreement with a continuous phone line connection. Do they care so deeply that you have a program schedule updated nightly that they will charge you for not keeping it current? THAT is grounds for a Class Action Lawsuit.

gwilley
11-17-2005, 11:08 PM
The most elegant solution to this problem, which removes the basic problem, i.e., the automatic call that DISH makes to update its program info, is as follows:

On Dish Remote press Menu 6 1 6
i.e., Menu, System Setup, Installation, Updates
Now you can disable the daily updates.
Keep Dish Receiver always on.
(useless information: if turned off it will update.)

Notes:
1. The DISH receiver will not be "current" on the programming, but who cares as your TIVO box will. Now your DISH receiver will NEVER make a night call that interferes with your recording late night stuff. :p To be safe, press the AUX swith on the DISH remote, or store it out of sight.
2. I believe that DISH deliberately did this to force customers to use their recorder box (how many customers have this level of technical skill). I have a 600 dollar Toshiba TIVO box that I did not want to junk in favor of an inferior product from DISH. When I called DISH service I was told that DISH and TIVO were incompatible. :down: Not true.
3. Any one interested in starting a class action suit against DISH for all the customers who were forced, by misinformation, to abandon their exisiting TIVO boxe in favor of one from DISH? I can provide technical support.

Good luck with your late night recordings,

:)
I've tried the solution of a 23 hour VCR timer on my Dish 322 receiver. It woke up the receiver at 4:30am after the 4:00am update call but but by 11:00am the damn screen saver was back on and I recorded the screen saver on all recordings the rest of the day.

So the 23 hour VCR timer doesn't seem to keep the screen saver from coming on. Maybe I have to auto tune it every so often, but that really screws up recording. I now officially hate Dish too, and I've only had it a week!

ajhalls
01-02-2006, 12:59 PM
The most elegant solution to this problem, which removes the basic problem, i.e., the automatic call that DISH makes to update its program info, is as follows:

On Dish Remote press Menu 6 1 6
i.e., Menu, System Setup, Installation, Updates
Now you can disable the daily updates.
Keep Dish Receiver always on.
(useless information: if turned off it will update.)

Notes:
1. The DISH receiver will not be "current" on the programming, but who cares as your TIVO box will. Now your DISH receiver will NEVER make a night call that interferes with your recording late night stuff. :p To be safe, press the AUX swith on the DISH remote, or store it out of sight.
2. I believe that DISH deliberately did this to force customers to use their recorder box (how many customers have this level of technical skill). I have a 600 dollar Toshiba TIVO box that I did not want to junk in favor of an inferior product from DISH. When I called DISH service I was told that DISH and TIVO were incompatible. :down: Not true.
3. Any one interested in starting a class action suit against DISH for all the customers who were forced, by misinformation, to abandon their exisiting TIVO boxe in favor of one from DISH? I can provide technical support.

Good luck with your late night recordings,

:)

When I specifically asked I too was told that I could not use my TIVO with DISH but can. I was xtremely upset because I had to get the 522 to use their DVR which is horrible. (Boo for DISH for lying) But am forced to use it because of the bouncing logo. I am going to try what you suggest and hopefully it will work.

Thank you!!!!

cedarrapidsboy
01-07-2006, 11:35 PM
Is TiVO willing to modify their IR routines to add the "Select" command before all channel changes (for the 322)? It seems "Select" simply brings up the channel identification when not at the screensaver.

I use the 23 hour timer trick... and it works fine, except for the odd 2:00 AM recording.

JimSpence
01-08-2006, 12:40 PM
Get a universal remote that has timer functions. Set a timer on the remote to send whatever command to wake up the box. Have it do this once an hour.

adclass
02-12-2006, 10:59 PM
I just bought a 322 receiver and I am planing on hooking it up to my tivo DVD recorder, I read all the threads and thank everyone for the good info on their problems . I was wonder how to hook it up correctly with out problems. I was thinking of buying a A/B switch because my tv only has one set of inputs. Any other problem that might come up would be nice to know before hooking up. thank you.

starshyne18
05-18-2006, 08:07 PM
I have the 322 tuner (GOD, how i hate it!). I had a LOT of problems getting the Tivo hooked up to begin with. Now, I'm having the same problem with the "select" screen. I can turn off the automatic updates on tv 2 no problem. Unforunately, Tivo is set up to tv 1. tv 1's dish remote no longer works (well, it still turns the tv on and off, but the 322 doesn't recognize it anymore). is there a way to turn off the updates through tv 2?

JimSpence
05-19-2006, 09:47 AM
You might also want to ask in the Dish Network section of DBS Talk.
http://www.dbstalk.com/index.php?

cedarrapidsboy
08-25-2006, 02:45 PM
I'm a 322 sufferer as well. I've used the 23.5 hour VCR timer with some luck, but was getting upset when my wonderful B-grade SciFi movies were being interrupted by the bouncing logo. So that would not happen, just as I get into the good parts of "The Ice Cream Man", I set up a manual TiVO recording.

Typically (with the exception of Cartoon Network programming and others) the shortest program you'll be recording is 30 minutes. You know when your VCR timer (on the 322) is gonna kick. So, just setup a timed TiVO recording for every night at that same time, for 30 minutes. Move it to the top of the Season Pass list. Now, every night, you will record 30 minutes of the bouncing logo. But, do it at basic quality, of course. You still record that logo junk, but at least you've quarantined it.

Since I have done this, I haven't been surprised by the screen saver during a late night program I really need to watch (see: "Miner's Massacre").

Now, how can the TiVO manual timer help my Dish signal get through dense cloud cover??? ;)

BruceDeVries
08-28-2006, 03:42 PM
I have a 522 and we check it every morning to see if the screen saver is on. We discovered that the Dish box uses the update time even with updates turned off to do program updates and diagnostics. We picked a time in the morning just before leaving for work and that seems to work out. Now that Tivo has won its suit against EchoStar and the recording functions will be disabled things will go more smoothly. We are hoping for a Dish cxabel card that will work with the Tivo HD box as a future solution, but have no news on that front.

loyoladoc
09-13-2006, 12:53 PM
please forgive my "ignorant" questions, as i'm a complete amateur in this game.

i hooked up my TIVO to my 322 dish yesterday. the bouncing logo is a huge problem. i don't know what you guys are talking about regarding using a "VCR timer for 23 hours." does this mean i need to have a VCR hooked up to my TV as well? and i have to record something for 23 hours? wouldn't the tape run out??

sorry, i realize these are basic questions, but i really have no idea what's going on. all i understand is that dish needs to do a nightly update, which i've disabled. also, i understand that the screensaver comes on after 4 hours of inactivity. the dish people told me to set up a timer on the dish to have it change channels to avoid the inactivity problem. but what if i set a timer on the dish for 4am, to change to channel 5 for example, and i also have tivo set to record a program at 4am (on a different channel). won't this mess up my tivo recording?

this is way too complicated. i am thisclose to giving up and returning my tivo for a dish DVR :(

ZikZak
09-13-2006, 02:03 PM
i hooked up my TIVO to my 322 dish yesterday. the bouncing logo is a huge problem. i don't know what you guys are talking about regarding using a "VCR timer for 23 hours." does this mean i need to have a VCR hooked up to my TV as well? and i have to record something for 23 hours? wouldn't the tape run out??

No, a VCR timer is a timer on the 322 that changes a channel at a certain time, so that a VCR (which has no IR blasters) can be useful.

but what if i set a timer on the dish for 4am, to change to channel 5 for example, and i also have tivo set to record a program at 4am (on a different channel). won't this mess up my tivo recording?

Yes, so you won't be able to record things that are only on at 4AM.

this is way too complicated. i am thisclose to giving up and returning my tivo for a dish DVR :(

And you think tivo is a hassle with dish network? Just wait until you get their DVR.

My solution to the 322 problem: don't use one. I've been happily using the Dish 301 for years.

loyoladoc
09-13-2006, 06:03 PM
No, a VCR timer is a timer on the 322 that changes a channel at a certain time, so that a VCR (which has no IR blasters) can be useful.

Yes, so you won't be able to record things that are only on at 4AM.

And you think tivo is a hassle with dish network? Just wait until you get their DVR.

My solution to the 322 problem: don't use one. I've been happily using the Dish 301 for years.

thanks for your response.

another question: is a "VCR timer" just the timer that's part of the sat dish itself, that comes up when i go under menu:timers:create timer. and this is what people set to last for 23 hours a day, which then "disables" the screen saver??

thanks.

dkh7m
09-14-2006, 02:31 PM
does anyone know if this is an issue w/ other DN boxes, or just the 322? i just got a pair of 381s yesterday, but i don't know if i'm going to experience the same thing.

loyoladoc
09-16-2006, 12:53 PM
so i set up a 23-hour VCR timer to try and avoid the screensaver thing. my question is this: will having a VCR timer on still allow TIVO to change the channel for my recordings? and also, once TIVO does change the channel, is the VCR timer still active? (so that it can revert back into "timer phase" after the recording is over, ensuring that the SS doesn't come back)

Cloud415
09-17-2006, 10:53 PM
I am having the hardest time hooking up my tivo to my DN 322 receiver. I have no idea where to hook up my IR blasters?? I've tried everything and nothing works. I can't change the chanel!!

I know that it can be done because all of you have done it...i just feel so dumb 'cause i can't figuere it out :(

I've conected AV cables going to the tivo to DN receiver, AV cables foing to Tivo to TV, and a S cable going to tivo to DN receiver and the IR cable going into the IR control out. I have the blaster located on the left bulb of the tree bulbs (that can all be IR, for all I know).

Thanks

loyoladoc
09-18-2006, 12:34 PM
I am having the hardest time hooking up my tivo to my DN 322 receiver. I have no idea where to hook up my IR blasters?? I've tried everything and nothing works. I can't change the chanel!!

I know that it can be done because all of you have done it...i just feel so dumb 'cause i can't figuere it out :(

I've conected AV cables going to the tivo to DN receiver, AV cables foing to Tivo to TV, and a S cable going to tivo to DN receiver and the IR cable going into the IR control out. I have the blaster located on the left bulb of the tree bulbs (that can all be IR, for all I know).

Thanks

i would try calling tivo customer service. i had a lot of problems when i was setting up my tivo, including not getting channel changing to work, and they were very helpful. walked me through every single step and it all ended up working.

EricScottReed
12-06-2006, 05:20 PM
In short, you must disable the Inactivity Power Off Mode. (I have the Dish 301/entry level receiver, but I can’t imagine that the functions are all that different from the 322):

1. Menu
2. Option 6 - System Setup
3. Option 1 - Installation
4. Option 2 – Inactivity Power Off
5. Select Disable
6. Save and then you’ll have to select “Cancel” three times to return to regular TV!

Good luck everyone! ZikZak, my 301 just started going into Inactivity Power Mode automatically around the beginning of November; yours didn’t?

mrmailer
12-16-2006, 03:41 AM
I have a 322, I did not see "Inactivity power off" anywhere?

I turned off daily updates, is that all I needed to do? Do the 4 hr screen savers still come on?

analisa_roche
02-28-2007, 03:19 PM
mrmailer, I have a new 322 and I can't find that option either. However, I just did the VCR timer instead and it worked great for me.

jon-w9
04-02-2007, 07:18 AM
Just got my 322 this weekend and I am experiencing the bemoaned "select" screen during my recordings.

It has been over a month, is the 23.5 hr. VCR timer still the way to go? I tried menu 6-1-2 and it was setting for call waiting. :(

So if my 322 dials at 3:30, I should start the timer at 4 and end around 3:15? I will give it a shot. If I disable the update call, will I be charged the $5 fee?

Sorry for the newb dish questions.

jb_owen
06-02-2007, 12:01 PM
Hi folks.

To use a term I saw in this thread, I am now also a "322/522 sufferer". I switched my service over last week and have been annoyed with the Dish Receiver's screensaver like countless others.

I see this issue has been reported back in January 2004 if not earlier. It is amazing (and disappointing) that Tivo has not provided the trivial fix/workaround of supporting the option to transmit the "Select" signal to the satellite receiver.

That said, I am now looking to implement the workaround. I see mention of the 23.5 hour VCR records but despite my efforts to search the thread, I did not find a definitive description of what needs to be done (most likely I missed it).

Is the intention to have the Dish's DVR literally record a full 23.5 hours of programming? My Tivo is located downstairs and is dedicated to kid programming. I don't want to fill up the Dish DVR with 23.5 hour recordings since I am using that for grown-up programming.

If anyone can provide a specific description of the 23.5 workaround that would be great.

As to Tivo, it is far superb in its user-interface (my 4 year old has no trouble operating it). This is in sharp contrast to the HORRIBLE user interface of the Dish 322/522 receiver. I don't think they could have done a worse job from a user-interface design.

Perhaps we should ALL commit to calling Tivo's customer support once a week until our cry is heard and support for the SELECT button is added??

Thanks again!

Cheers,
Jonathan Owen

JimSpence
06-02-2007, 12:18 PM
From the Compatibility thread.
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128743
DISH 322/522: EchoStar 10001-Fast

Be sure the receiver is set to remote address 1.

al_bburn writes “All seems to work ok with one very irritating exception. The 322 schedules a daily call to get program guide information and check for software updates. When its done, it power cycles itself and instead of just going to a channel, it displays 'Press Select to Continue'. Grrrrrrr. Tivo cannot change the channel because it cannot press select.”

Peterod has found the following workaround: “I have the 322 set for a 4am update connection. […] What I did was add a daily timer to ‘AutoTune’ the 322 to any sub'ed channel at 5am. The 322 is tuned at that time to the selected timer and the ‘Select Button’ screen is reset.” If both of the 322's tuners are being used with TiVo, apply the workaround to both.

gl9500 posts a wealth of other helpful DISH 322 tips, including dealing with potential screensaver issues. chuckdfoster reports that for DISH 522s, AutoTune (see previous paragraph) works around the screensaver issue.

Another suggestion is to disable the daily updates and always leave the receiver on.

I think what they are saying is to schedule a 5 minute recording early in the morning to essentially wake up the receiver.

chopperhead2
09-24-2007, 01:30 PM
Ok guys, new user here. I have the 332 reciever with tivo series 2. It works togrether fine except for the screen saver that makes tivo record that instead of the show it`s programmed to. I don`t have a vcr hooked up so how would the timer work? I looked into it and it wants a manufacturer code from the vcr. What I`m trying to do is record a show for my daughter that airs at 6:30am but nobody is up at that time to make sure the screen saver is off. After about 7:30 we are up and usually have to hit the select button. I`m very new to this stuff so what exactly do I need to do to get everything working correctly? By the way, I have the tivo hooked up only on tv1 and not on tv2 so that it only records from that tv.

val&brad
10-10-2007, 05:21 PM
so i set up a 23-hour VCR timer to try and avoid the screensaver thing. my question is this: will having a VCR timer on still allow TIVO to change the channel for my recordings? and also, once TIVO does change the channel, is the VCR timer still active? (so that it can revert back into "timer phase" after the recording is over, ensuring that the SS doesn't come back)

After reading everything I could possibily find about this issue. loyoladoc has asked the exact question I have. If the timer is active at 4am on channel 101, then I watch TV at 9am on channel 107, then leave the house for 6 hrs. Will the Screen Saver come back on? :confused:

I too just purchased a Tivo and need to decide if it's getting returned or not. This is a deal breaker for me, not to mention not having NHL season pass game information too (but I can deal with that, I guess)

dstreelm
01-18-2008, 05:44 PM
After getting my new 322 from dish and setting it up, I too was getting frustrated with the "Press Select to continue" problem. After reading many posts on the subject, i tried the VCR auto tune trick which worked ok, but i would still sometimes get the screensaver. I've modified that system, its a little clunky and annoying to set up, but it seems to work so far.

First, i set the 322 to contact the service at 3:30. Then i set up 6 VCR timers. The first for 3:59 am ( i set all of the timers to tune to channel 101). the next for 7:59 am, the next for 11:59 am and so on for afternoon too. So every 4 hours, one minute before the hour, the 322 automatically tunes to 101 and starts playing. The only downside is that if you are recording say a program from 7:00 to 8:00 am, the last minute would be cut off. Ditto for any recordings that you specify to end late. Setting up the 6 timers is a bit tedious however.

This method has so far been successful for me, if you give it a try, let me know your results.

Good Luck 322 owners!

Adam1115
01-18-2008, 06:08 PM
I never had any problems with just one auto-tune...

travisl
02-23-2008, 11:55 PM
I've had the auto-tune trick running for about a year now, and it's worked great. I only see the "press select to continue" on my non-Tivo TV now. However, once every 6 weeks or so, I see a recording where the Tivo changes the channel, the 322 receiver gets the change, and although the audio changes to the new channel, the video is blank except for the Dish Network banner showing that the channel change was successful. I asked Dish about this tonight in a chat (edited slightly):

Dish: Thank you for choosing Dish Network the leader in DVR and HD. How may I assist you?
TravisL: Hi, [redacted]. I've got a 322 receiver, and several months ago, I called tech support, because I had audio but no video...
TravisL: Their solution was to unplug and replug in the receiver, and that worked...
Dish: I am very sorry to hear that. I would be happy to assist you.
TravisL: However, I've had to do that four times since then, and I'm wondering if there's something I can do to prevent this from happening, or if the receiver is defective.
TravisL: It looks like it only happens when changing a channel.
Dish: This can be resolved by turning the receiver off at night.
TravisL: Hmmm... that's not gonna work too well, because I have a DVR hooked up to it that needs it to be on to record programs overnight. Any other ideas?
TravisL: Or can you explain why this happens, so I could predict it and kind of know in advance?
Dish: That is why it keeps happening. The receiver does periodically need to be tuned off.
TravisL: If I were to turn it off once a week or so, would that prevent it? How long would it need to stay off?
Dish: That might resolve the issue. I would defiantly try that.
TravisL: Would it be just a quick power off/power on, or would it need to be off for a longer time?
Dish: I would says at least for 10 mins.

So, I figure that doing this once every couple of weeks will work.