Read this if you want to use your Series2 DVR with a wireless adapter

[marks47]

If you figure out where/who, let me know. I just bought all this gear today figuring, "oh, sure G is better." Bah. I'd hate to have to buy a USB-Ethernet adapter and keep all these messy cords out JUST for the TiVo. I just rearranged my entire apartment around these plans. :P

If not to pester them, does anyone else have any updates about when the WUSB54G drivers will be available?

[jsandler]

Quick question? Has anyone tried the WUSB54g on the Tivo? Would the drivers be so much different then the 11?

[DZeckhausen]

Originally posted by jsandler
Quick question? Has anyone tried the WUSB54g on the Tivo? Would the drivers be so much different then the 11? Yes. It doesn't get recognized by the TiVo. I had to sell mine on eBay and replace it with the WUSB11.

[PDMeat]

I know this perhaps belongs in another forum (underground), but with all sorts of Tivo hacking going on to essentially get the linux OS to run various programs people wrote, is it beyond belief that someone who knows linux could get the right RPM or driver installed for a "G" wireless adapter. Maybe we need to throw down a challenge to the hacking community?

[dalelee]

Originally posted by M'sInducedUlcer
I purchased the DLink 122 from Fry's today for $19.99 after rebate. I plugged it in, and after the firmware automagically updated, it works great. I am connecting it to an SMC Barricade G router running in mixed mode. Tomorrow I will buy another one of these DLinks for my $49.99 refurb Tivo that is on the way.

Two questions:

1) How do you view the wireless signal strength on the Tivo?

2) How is the multiroom viewing over wireless? Is it "laggy" or usually smooth given a decent signal strength?

Thanks!


Did you have any problems installing you Dlink 122? My tivo is unable to locate the gateway router

Thanks!

[Yike]

Wow, TiVo *still* unable to to function out of the box without a phone line. Amazing. I'm trying to think of something just as stupid, I just can't do it. Maybe not being able to drive a new car until you have it towed to another state for wheel alignment before driving it home?

*sigh*

[danielsan]

I'm with Yike.

Glacial. I stand by my original post.

I still don't see Tivo units shipping with:

1. A wireless card BUILT-IN.
2. A web server interface BUILT-IN.

You've GOT to be kidding me. I don't expect them to open the video formats for playback on other media (I have Windows Home Media Edition for that), or to promote ways of skipping commercials.

But entering show information via a remote control? "Use the Home Media Option" you say? ($99 for what essentially boiled down to this Jurassic box no longer needing a PHONE line.) HMO is fine as long as I want to ADD shows. Which leaves me with the Gameboy-like adventure of trying to MANAGE shows or season passes ALREADY ON the machine. I do a great deal more of than than ADD shows.

I think someone promoted the volume of posts on this web site as proof of support for TiVo. I think the reverse is true... If they were really doing what you wanted, would you NEED an entire forum dedicated to what the units AREN'T doing for you.

I'll grant you, if I had massive amounts of free time to decipher hacks and other silliness, I may very well have a DVR that does what I want. Instead, I need to get things DONE. At the moment, that includes dumping my Tivo on eBay once and for all. Better yet, I'll give it to my boss for Christmas... Hehe...

[tigerglebe]

About two months ago I picked up a Series 2 Tivo at Best Buy. Ran it through setup using the phone cord and immediately hooked it up to a wireless Linksys 802.11b adapter. It recognized my wireless network through the Linksys Wireless-G access point and I was able to get the Tivo online.

This worked for about a month. Then one night after an update and restart it immediately stopped working with the wireless adapter. I ran through all the options and could not get it to work. I reset the access point and the router. No luck. Set them to default.. no luck. Kept reconfiguring them all the way from wide open with SSID to locked down with WEP 128. No joy.

So I figured possibly the adapter was bad. So I go to Best Buy today and pick up the D-Link LW-122 802.11b which is recommended here. I hook it up to the laptop (which still had wireless this whole time mind you) and confirmed it was working. I hook it up to the Tivo. It recognizes it and asks to update the firmware. I allow it. I go to get it connected... same results as with prior adapter. Even with running through all the same things again.

Suggestions?

[ProudMonkey]

Ok...here's my problem.

I've had my Pioneer DVR/DVDRW and my new model TiVo series 2 for a couple months, obviously making my scheduled phone calls, and then just this weekend i decided to get everything to network my tivos. I happened to buy two Linksys WUSB11's off of eBay...one of them being v 2.6 and the other v 2.8..... Well...the 2.6 works fine on both and neither can use the 2.8. TiVo does recognize it, gets normally a 65-85% signal strength....but then it goes to None randomly....and i havent gotten either to connect to the network with the 2.8....says it cant find it...

I checked the software version for my Pioneer and its 5.2.2-01-2-275. Is that new enough to where it should be able to use the 2.8??? If not, what should i do??

Thanks!!
Mark

[tigerglebe]

Originally posted by tigerglebe
About two months ago I picked up a Series 2 Tivo at Best Buy. Ran it through setup using the phone cord and immediately hooked it up to a wireless Linksys 802.11b adapter. It recognized my wireless network through the Linksys Wireless-G access point and I was able to get the Tivo online.

This worked for about a month. Then one night after an update and restart it immediately stopped working with the wireless adapter. I ran through all the options and could not get it to work. I reset the access point and the router. No luck. Set them to default.. no luck. Kept reconfiguring them all the way from wide open with SSID to locked down with WEP 128. No joy.

So I figured possibly the adapter was bad. So I go to Best Buy today and pick up the D-Link LW-122 802.11b which is recommended here. I hook it up to the laptop (which still had wireless this whole time mind you) and confirmed it was working. I hook it up to the Tivo. It recognizes it and asks to update the firmware. I allow it. I go to get it connected... same results as with prior adapter. Even with running through all the same things again.

Suggestions?


Found a solution on my own. Apparently Tivo using 802.11b adapters doesn't seem to sync correctly with 802.11g routers and access points if they are set to mixed A/G. What you have to do is set it to B only for it to connect. Hopefully they put in a fix for this in the future as B is getting long in the touth and new standards are coming.

[bedelman]

Originally posted by tigerglebe
Found a solution on my own. Apparently Tivo using 802.11b adapters doesn't seem to sync correctly with 802.11g routers and access points if they are set to mixed A/G. What you have to do is set it to B only for it to connect. Hopefully they put in a fix for this in the future as B is getting long in the touth and new standards are coming. Most 802.11g routers can run in b/g mode (not a/g mode -- that's a different animal) and most get along quite well now -- as does mine. Check to make sure there isn't a pending firmware update for your router. The early 802.11g routers weren't fully compliant with the standard (partly because the standard hadn't been finalized yet) and the issues were addressed via a firmware update.

[sincitymedic]

I got my hands on a WUSB11 v2.8 which seems to be working ok, except for a couple (hopefully) minor points. I plugged it in & it found my network right off the bat. At this point, I am not using any sort of encryption. When I try to test the connection, TiVo says that my DHCP server failed. I have checked my router's software & it shows the DHCP server to be enabled (I am using an SMC2804WBRP-G set to the 802.11B band right now).

Any ideas on how to troubleshoot or remedy this? Thanks in advance for the help.

[Alandd]

I helped a friend setup wireless and HMO on two series2 TiVo boxes. The wireless is a Linksys 802.11b wireless router and 2 WUSB11 wireless adapters, version 3.0. One of the two units (Living Room) would work for a while then the wireless connection would drop. Not just due to signal strength, but the TiVo unit would stop recognizing that an adapter was even connected (No network detected message). A reboot would fix it, but it would drop again before long. I had them swap the two adapters and the problem followed the adapter (now on the Bedroom unit). Actually the adapter would not work at all on the second series2 unit. I got a replacement WUSB11 from Linksys and replaced the problem unit on the bedroom tivo. All seemed fine, but after about 10 minutes the livingroom unit dropped the connection! Keep in mind this unit was working for over a week with no problems (using HMO to play music). Now I am not sure if the unit was ever the problem. The friend is not very technical, and a 45 minute drive for me, so troubleshooting is not simple. I am doing nothing out of the ordinary with the wireless (only MAC filtering, no WEP), and signal strength is excellent when it is working.
Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

[catinthechat]

Has anyone had any luck getting the Netgear MA111 v2.0 to work?

[ilovedvrs]

Originally posted by danielsan
I'm with Yike.

Glacial. I stand by my original post.

I still don't see Tivo units shipping with:

1. A wireless card BUILT-IN.
2. A web server interface BUILT-IN.

You've GOT to be kidding me. I don't expect them to open the video formats for playback on other media (I have Windows Home Media Edition for that), or to promote ways of skipping commercials.

But entering show information via a remote control? "Use the Home Media Option" you say? ($99 for what essentially boiled down to this Jurassic box no longer needing a PHONE line.) HMO is fine as long as I want to ADD shows. Which leaves me with the Gameboy-like adventure of trying to MANAGE shows or season passes ALREADY ON the machine. I do a great deal more of than than ADD shows.

I think someone promoted the volume of posts on this web site as proof of support for TiVo. I think the reverse is true... If they were really doing what you wanted, would you NEED an entire forum dedicated to what the units AREN'T doing for you.

I'll grant you, if I had massive amounts of free time to decipher hacks and other silliness, I may very well have a DVR that does what I want. Instead, I need to get things DONE. At the moment, that includes dumping my Tivo on eBay once and for all. Better yet, I'll give it to my boss for Christmas... Hehe...

watch out, people have been banned from these forums for less. these forums are run by Tivo reps. so they tend to ban people that consistantly point Tivo's many flaws.

You either love or hate tivo. But in both cases you use tivo.

Its kinda anagous to what people say about radio talk show hosts, you either love or hate them, but you still listen.

[dkonarska]

Originally posted by marks47
If not to pester them, does anyone else have any updates about when the WUSB54G drivers will be available?

Ditto...I'm desperate. I still have a copper phone line just for the TiVo. Using VOIP and Cell for voice. Can't bring myself to install the B standard and slow down my G network.

Hope TiVo is listening.

[Idiot_Box_Junkie]

Originally posted by Alandd
I helped a friend setup wireless and HMO on two series2 TiVo boxes. The wireless is a Linksys 802.11b wireless router and 2 WUSB11 wireless adapters, version 3.0. One of the two units (Living Room) would work for a while then the wireless connection would drop. Not just due to signal strength, but the TiVo unit would stop recognizing that an adapter was even connected (No network detected message). A reboot would fix it, but it would drop again before long. I had them swap the two adapters and the problem followed the adapter (now on the Bedroom unit). Actually the adapter would not work at all on the second series2 unit. I got a replacement WUSB11 from Linksys and replaced the problem unit on the bedroom tivo. All seemed fine, but after about 10 minutes the livingroom unit dropped the connection! Keep in mind this unit was working for over a week with no problems (using HMO to play music). Now I am not sure if the unit was ever the problem. The friend is not very technical, and a 45 minute drive for me, so troubleshooting is not simple. I am doing nothing out of the ordinary with the wireless (only MAC filtering, no WEP), and signal strength is excellent when it is working.
Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Had the exact same problem. The setup that had worked fine for months was the Linksys (WUSB11) on the TiVo connecting to a Linksys (BEFW11S4) router/802.11b access point. The router failed recently and I had replaced it with a new one from Netgear that was a router/802.11g/b access point. The new router/access point worked great for my desktops and laptop but the TiVo began to exhibit the exact behavior you listed above, frequent dropped connections.

I realized that restarting the TiVo OR the router would reset the connection. This made me suspect that either the WUSB11 did not work well with the Netgear router/access point or that the mixed mode 802.11g/b environment was a problem for it, remember it only supports 802.11b. I suspect the latter more than the former. Since I did not really need 802.11g, I returned the Netgear in favor of a new Linksys (BEFW11S4).

Not a problem since.

[marcoval]

Will the Netgear MA111NA work ? I notice the TiVO site says the MA111 works for a USB adaptor, but not "V2" I'm curious if the NA tagged on the end means its a "V2".

[TiVoStephen]

Marcoval, sorry, I have no information on the MA111NA and it's not listed as a product at Netgear's site. Where are you finding a listing for the MA111NA?

Assuming that's a misprint or error, you'll need to find out if it's a v1 or a v2. If it's v1 it will work, if it's v2 it will NOT work.

[marcoval]

I'm getting it off the CompUSA website, they apparently have it on sale for $5 after rebate so I'm thinking this will be an amazing deal if it's the V1.

[tvaddict]

Crossposting from Tivo Help Center since this thread seems to get a lot more traffic... I searched up and down for solutions to this issue, and I saw that other people had the same problems, and lots of them were solved, but no solutions seem to have been posted... so:

Last night, we bought a new D-Link DI-624 (802.11g) wireless router, and I can't seem to get my Tivos to receive a signal from it, even if I put the access point directly on top of the router (I'm using Linksys WUSB11 wireless access points on both of my Tivos). Everything used to work fine with our old Linksys 802.11b router, until I dropped it. :(

When I go through Tivo's network settings config, it sees my network's SSID, and I've tried all combos of WEP keys (disabled/hex/ascii), but still Tivo doesn't get an IP address, nor does it see any signal broadcast (under signal strength, it's just blank, no % or anything). With the Linksys in place, I'd still see a signal strength, even if I didn't have the right password, I just wouldn't be able to access it until I entered the password. But now, I'm seeing nothing.

There's a post in the Tivo Help Center that says:

Location: los angeles
Posts: 1
TIVO 2 wireless network- creating a connection/ iTunes
DLink di624 router, DWL-122 wireless usb adapter
i just wanted to do a quick post of thanks with respect to the wireless help thread-
i was getting pretty consistent DHCP errors and no IP address- and DLink was of little help-
after many reconfigs of both the router and the network settings of the TIVO, it turned out to be
the wep encryption password was hexidecimal as opposed to alpha numeric- which confused me as there are no case options- not to mention it adds a character at the beginning of the string- but it worked flawlessly and all the encryption (64b) and dynamic addressing is the same as it was before the tivo arrived-


Anyone know what this refers to? Is there really an "extra character at the beginning of the string" that I should know about? Anyone else have any idea what I should try next before I return the DI-624 and buy another Linksys (same as I had before)?

TIA!

Edited to add - I've ensured that the router is NOT set to 802.11g only mode. And Transfer Speed is set to 'auto'.

[Idiot_Box_Junkie]

Originally posted by tvaddict
Crossposting from Tivo Help Center since this thread seems to get a lot more traffic... I searched up and down for solutions to this issue, and I saw that other people had the same problems, and lots of them were solved, but no solutions seem to have been posted... so:

Last night, we bought a new D-Link DI-624 (802.11g) wireless router, and I can't seem to get my Tivos to receive a signal from it, even if I put the access point directly on top of the router (I'm using Linksys WUSB11 wireless access points on both of my Tivos). Everything used to work fine with our old Linksys 802.11b router, until I dropped it. :(

When I go through Tivo's network settings config, it sees my network's SSID, and I've tried all combos of WEP keys (disabled/hex/ascii), but still Tivo doesn't get an IP address, nor does it see any signal broadcast (under signal strength, it's just blank, no % or anything). With the Linksys in place, I'd still see a signal strength, even if I didn't have the right password, I just wouldn't be able to access it until I entered the password. But now, I'm seeing nothing.

There's a post in the Tivo Help Center that says:


Anyone know what this refers to? Is there really an "extra character at the beginning of the string" that I should know about? Anyone else have any idea what I should try next before I return the DI-624 and buy another Linksys (same as I had before)?

TIA!

Edited to add - I've ensured that the router is NOT set to 802.11g only mode. And Transfer Speed is set to 'auto'.

I believe the WUSB11 does not deal well with mixed mode environments. Please see my post above (5 up from this).

[bedelman]

Here's a good explanation I found about why you sometimes need to use a hexadecimal password. It can happen when you're using WEP, your wireless router is from a different manufacturer than your wireless USB adapter, and your WEP password isn't 5 characters long (for 40 bit) or 13 characters long (for 128 bit)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108058

Here's an excerpt...The multiplatform issue
Being an older protocol, WEP password treatment was not implemented uniformly by all wireless hardware and operating system manufacturers. Some products require users to enter relatively cryptic hexadecimal characters (four bits each), while others allow "plain language" password entry. A plain language password, like "apple", uses standard ASCII characters that are 8 bits each.

Products that allow plain language (ASCII) password entry may not force the network administrator to create 5- or 13-character passwords that would result in the required 40 (5*8) and 104 (13*8) bit-length passwords. Instead, they use a "hashing" routine to convert an odd-length password to the correct bit length. The multiplatform issue arises when the hashing results of products from two different manufacturers don't match each other. The resulting "network equivalent passwords," which are always given in hexadecimal format, are different.

[Philo]

OK, I've selectively skimmed this thread but must confess I have not read the whole thing.

I dilligently checked all of the information here and on the Tivo site before buying a WUSB11. Since, of course, there was no way to check on the box what *version* of the WUSB11 it is, this was like a shot in the dark. Of course, it was version 4.0, according to the CD-ROM. And, of course, my early Series II refuses to see it.

I have a Linksys router and would like to keep everything compatible. So, what are my options here? Is the Tivo software going to be brought up to date with equipment that is currently on sale, or are we going to be forced to hunt for out-of-date equipment unascertainable by the packaging to use with our equally incompatible and out-of-date software?

Sorry if that sounds a little loaded -- don't intend to be nasty, just a little sarcastic within the bounds of pleasantry -- this is clearly not a consumer-friendly situation. Thanks for any advice.

[bwit]

Since, of course, there was no way to check on the box what *version* of the WUSB11

The version number of LinkSys adapters is printed on the box. On older versions (2.6 and 2.8) is was printed next to the model number i.e. WUSB11 ver. 2.6.

On newer versions it is still printed on the box but is on the bottom in very small print.

Bob

Edit: Incidentally, I find WalMart to be an excellent source of older Linksys adapters. Maybe they buy in very large quantities or just don't move them but every time I stop by my local WalMart they always have 8 or 10 v2.6 and 2.8 adapters on the shelf.

[mike_flood]

But you can't "see" the box if you order over the web.

[mike_flood]

Originally posted by sincitymedic
TiVo says that my DHCP server failed. I have checked my router's software & it shows the DHCP server to be enabled (I am using an SMC2804WBRP-G set to the 802.11B band right now).

Any ideas on how to troubleshoot or remedy this? Thanks in advance for the help.

Have you tried using a static IP address?
I use 192.168.1.112 with my LAN and TiVo works fine.
I can watch photos or listen to mp3's with zero problems.
I can send recording instructions via the web and it's perfect.
I use the little D-Link adaptor. Router is in the basment, Tivo is on 1st floor.
Get about a 50% signal and TiVo says "Good"

[mike_flood]

Originally posted by dkonarska
Ditto...I'm desperate. I still have a copper phone line just for the TiVo. Using VOIP and Cell for voice. Can't bring myself to install the B standard and slow down my G network.

Hope TiVo is listening.

I use a Linksys WRTG54 running the the B and G mode and all is peaceful and flawless.

[masonty]

Does Tivo plan on using 802.11g? If so, when? I really dislike the idea of having to go back to a 802.11b just to use my Tivo. I'm moving forward as technology does. For example, I use VoIP for my home phone. Can't Tivo keep up?

[rawlic]

I'd just like to thank everyone who's been involved with this thread. Because of the messages here, I knew that I needed to by a v2 WUSB11 adapter, not a v4. I had to rifle through Wal-Mart's stock to find a v2 among the v4's.

Setup was a breeze and I was able to get rid of the phone line draped across my living room.

Tivo is great!

-Chuck

[krgoldman]

I tried to use a Linksys WUSB11 to make a wireless connection between my TiVo and my network. I took a chance, bought it on-line, and it is too new a version so the Tivo doesn't recognize it. I am now thinking about replacing it with at a Linksys WUSB12. I the notes say you must have the current software version on your DVR. I checked, and I do.

Does anyone have any experience with the Linksys WUSB12, positive or negative? Also, the TiVo is in a TV cabinet, but only about 10 feet (and one wall) away from the access point. Any thoughts on how this will affect connectivity? Thanks.

[KWhit]

I waded through most of this thread (10 pages or so), but am still confused by a couple of things.

I currently have a 802.11g network - a router connected to my desktop cpu and a wireless g network card in my laptop.

If I connect my TIVO to a network adapter and must place my router in the b/g combo mode, will that affect my transfer speed between my router and my laptop? Does everything slow down to "B" speed?

Or will my laptop and desktop still communicate at the faster "G" speed?

Thanks.

[ccwf]

Originally posted by KWhit
If I connect my TIVO to a network adapter and must place my router in the b/g combo mode, will that affect my transfer speed between my router and my laptop? Does everything slow down to "B" speed? In general, no, not today. Slowing down to near-B speeds did happen with early, buggy firmware in certain routers. Or will my laptop and desktop still communicate at the faster "G" speed? You will need to place the router into mixed mode so that it can handle both B and G, and mixed mode is not as fast as G. With some routers/firmware, mixed mode is very close to G speeds when using G equipment. With others (again, see the old buggy firmware note), it's much slower. Try searching the web for recent mixed mode benchmarks for your router.

[KWhit]

Ok. Thanks for the info.

[dlcrow]

I am using a WUSB12 to connect to my WAP54G. The WUSB11 that I initially bought wouldn't connect to the WAP54G with the Tivo or with a Windows XP computer.

[designwebs]

After checking the tivo web site I see where tivo listed the kind of adapters that it will work with. I went out and got myself a linksys usb WUSB11 adapter. I hooked the thing up and nothing happened. I then did a download from tivo to update my software. Or so I thought. While reading the different posts I see where the netgear ma111 will work. I plugged it in and it took right off. I did some conf. as I am running with wep and it works great. Anyone have any idea why the linksys would not work. The tivo is band new.

[bedelman]

Originally posted by designwebs
After checking the tivo web site I see where tivo listed the kind of adapters that it will work with. I went out and got myself a linksys usb WUSB11 adapter. I hooked the thing up and nothing happened. I then did a download from tivo to update my software. Or so I thought. While reading the different posts I see where the netgear ma111 will work. I plugged it in and it took right off. I did some conf. as I am running with wep and it works great. Anyone have any idea why the linksys would not work. The tivo is band new. Chances are that you had a v4 version of the WUSB11. Even though all the various versions of the WUSB11 look the same on the outside, they have different electronics on the inside. The WUSB11 v4 is not currently compatible with the drivers in the TiVo.

[pianoboy]

Just my $0.02, I set up my new Series 2 TiVo on Saturday, and used the MA111. Worked like a champ, directly connected to my network after the initial telephone setup without a hitch. Highly recommended.

jas

[JMcMusicman]

Originally posted by TiVoOpsMgr
Jaquade, we haven't announced a timeline yet for G support, but it is something we are working on.


Best regards,
Stephen

Whats the deal?!? This was posted almost a year ago... and still no G support??:confused:

[viget]

So, I accidentally bought the Netgear ma111 v2 from amazon.com, b/c nowhere does it say on the website that it's v2. And it was really cheap. Let that be a lesson to all, don't gamble with an online purchase if it's of questionable support.

My question (I guess directed to Stephen) is will Tivo ever be compatible with v2? Or should I just go cut my losses and buy the linksys one?

THanks.

[Dieter]

I got my Tivo Brand Series 2 DVR (80hr) a few days ago. Set up was a snap using a dial-up, but I'd let to get it wireless.

Here's what I have.

Linksys BEFW11S4 Wireless B Router
Linksys WET11 Bridge
Linksys USB100M Compact USB Network Adapter

I connected an ethernet cable between the Bridge and Tivo using the USB100M. The Tivo recognized the network connection, so I thought all I had to do was to configure the wireless setup, WEP security, etc. I apparently was wrong, because upon selecting Wireless Setup, I received an error message of "Could not find DHCP".

My questions are:

Will Tivo work using the above configuration?
Where/how do I find the DHCP?
What else am I doing wrong?

Thanks

[bedelman]

As far as the TiVo knows, you're running a wired connection (that's the adapter that's connected to it). The wireless configuration would have to be done on the WET11 separately using its configuration screens.

[Dieter]

The wireless configuration would have to be done on the WET11 separately using its configuration screens.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I suppose the question now is just exactly how do I configure the WET11 wireless connection with Tivo when my only means of connecting it with the Tivo is via the USB100 wired adapter?

[ashu]

Configure the WET11 while attached to a PC (set up your WEP, operating mode - Client/Bridge etc) and ensure it lets your PC connect to the router (PC's ethernet card set to DHCP or static, depending on your router config).

Then move the WET11 to the USB100M on the TiVo. TiVo previously configured for DHCP Wired ethernet (or static IP, if you prefer, within the range of IP addresses the WET11/router are in, same netmask, router as gateway/DNS)

[Dieter]

Ashu.

I successfully configured the WET11 while attached to my main PC last night without incident. I thought that would do the trick, but it seems that there still is a connectivity issue when the WET11 is trying to talk to the Tivo via the USB100 adapter.

[Dieter]

Just to confuse everyone, I think the other topic has more meat to it. So I'd like to continue the discussion over there. :)

[ashu]

Other discussion : http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2450310#post2450310

[designwebs]

I have the Netgear Ma111 hocked up with not problem. I have wep enabled and I even have a static IP for it. For some reason it keeps losing its connection. To bad tivo does not have a ping utility built in to ping the network.

[ashu]

You could ping the TiVo from a PC. Under windows (at a command prompt), use the -t option to keep a perpetual ping going ...

ping -t <tivos.ip.address>

You can use one of a plethora of 'up' programs that can ping at preconfigured intervals to verify a connection stays up ... maybe you'll discover a pattern (noisy 2.4GHz cordless phones, microwave use, local WISP, strong neighborhood routers etc)

[bedelman]

Originally posted by ashutoshsm
You could ping the TiVo from a PC. Under windows (at a command prompt), use the -t option to keep a perpetual ping going ...

ping -t <tivos.ip.address>

You can use one of a plethora of 'up' programs that can ping at preconfigured intervals to verify a connection stays up ... maybe you'll discover a pattern (noisy 2.4GHz cordless phones, microwave use, local WISP, strong neighborhood routers etc) If you have a Macintosh running Mac OSX, there's a "Network Utility" program located at /Applications/Utilities that has a "ping" function as well

[TiVoStephen]

Originally posted by viget
My question (I guess directed to Stephen) is will Tivo ever be compatible with v2? Or should I just go cut my losses and buy the linksys one?My recommdation would be to purchase an adapter that's on the current compatible list (http://www.tivo.com/adapters/) because we have not announced any plans to support v2 of the MA111. Sorry for the inconvenience.

It seems the D-Link DWL-122 is probably the easiest adapter to find in the stores (and is also available from tivo.com).

Best regards,
Stephen

[ashu]

Often the DWL-122 is available for as little as 9.99 after rebates. I bought one at that sweet deal, but another at the regular 29.99 price.

[designwebs]

I guess I could ping the static IP I gave the Tivo to keep it up?

[ashu]

I don't know if it will 'keep it up' (you may want to try a certain Pfizer product for that ;) ), but it sure will show whether it IS, indeed, a regular occurrence, or whether its sporadic and based on other interference/activity!

[networkprbs]

I just bought my TiVo and did the Guided Setup. I then proceeded to plug in my wireless network adapter just as the book told me to. The adapter I am attempting to use is the Linksys WUSB54G ver 4. I know that this adapter is not on the list of supported adapters on the TiVo website, but I also know that this adapter is B compatable. If anyone knows why this adapter does not work, how to make it work correctly, or if it won't work what to buy, let me know. Also, does anyone know when TiVo is planning on supporting Wireless G? They really need to.

[bedelman]

Originally posted by networkprbs
I just bought my TiVo and did the Guided Setup. I then proceeded to plug in my wireless network adapter just as the book told me to. The adapter I am attempting to use is the Linksys WUSB54G ver 4. I know that this adapter is not on the list of supported adapters on the TiVo website, but I also know that this adapter is B compatable. If anyone knows why this adapter does not work, how to make it work correctly, or if it won't work what to buy, let me know. Also, does anyone know when TiVo is planning on supporting Wireless G? They really need to. If it's not on the list (which is also in the documentation), don't count on the adapter working. When support is added for new adapters, those new adapters are added to the web page at http://www.tivo.com/adapters -- just as was recently done with the D-link DWL 120 ver. F

The electronics inside the WUSB54G adapter are different which is why it doesn't work since it requires a different driver than the others.

[designwebs]

I first went to the tivo web site and locked at the approved usb adapters. I got the linksys one. I hooked it up and the tivo box did not even see it. I did a couple checks with my tivo box for updates and nothing. I plugged the netgear in and it took right off.

I have it set to a static IP. I think I will download a ping utility and have it ping the IP I gave the tivo box ever so often and see if that works.

Once I get tired of fooling around with it, I will hard wire it in and forget about it.

[jreedar]

I just got a new TIVO 40 hour recorder(model number: TCD540040), after reading most of this thread I see where my wireless router (Linksys WRT54G) is compatible if b/g is enabled and I'm planning on getting the Linksys WUSB12 adapter since it's on the approved list from TIVO's web site. However my main question is since I don't have a telephone line I only use my cell phone, but do have a broadband internet connection will I be able to get by the 'guided setup' using the WUSB12 adapter? I would like to not have to use the 'go to a friend with a telephone line' approach to get by the initial setup???

Thanks in advance for any help, also sorry if this has already been answered in another thread, please direct me there if it has.

[ccwf]

Originally posted by jreedar
will I be able to get by the 'guided setup' using the WUSB12 adapter? Unfortunately, it is not possible to perform initial guided setup with a wireless adapter. The only officially supported method for performing initial guided setup at this time is using a phone line, although wired Ethernet adapters also work for many people.

[jreedar]

Thanks ccwf, I just wanted to verify that first.

I don't plan on signing up and getting the TIVO service, I'm just going to use it as a VCR replacement. Would there be any benefit to getting the wireless adapter then and hooking the TIVO up to my home wireless network if I don't get the TIVO monthly service plan? I couldn't do remote scheduling since I wouldn't have the service and be buying the HMO, right? Is this a correct assumption or is there any benefit to having my TIVO connected to the internet with no service plan.

Thanks for your help!

[ccwf]

Originally posted by jreedar
Thanks ccwf, I just wanted to verify that first.

I don't plan on signing up and getting the TIVO service, I'm just going to use it as a VCR replacement. That particular model does not allow recording without a subscription. If that is your intention, you should return it and get one of the models that includes TiVo Basic (VCR-like functionality without a subscription) or one of the old Series1 boxes that has similar unsubscribed functionality. For the latter, see http://www.servicedvr.com/ or eBay and such.

[BrettStah]

Apologies in advance if this has been asked/answered before...

Are there any wireless adapters that are supported that operate at "B" and "G" speeds? In other words, while I realize that Series2 Tivos currently only support "B" wireless network speeds, it would seem logical to buy an adapter that can operate at "G" speeds, so that when (I'm optimistic!) Tivo adds support for "G" speeds, no new adapters would need to be purchased.

[bedelman]

Originally posted by BrettStah
Apologies in advance if this has been asked/answered before...

Are there any wireless adapters that are supported that operate at "B" and "G" speeds? In other words, while I realize that Series2 Tivos currently only support "B" wireless network speeds, it would seem logical to buy an adapter that can operate at "G" speeds, so that when (I'm optimistic!) Tivo adds support for "G" speeds, no new adapters would need to be purchased. The problem isn't the speed but the electronics within the adapter itself. The drivers within the TiVo only support certain chipsets. If you want to use a 802.11g connection today and in the future the only way to do so is to team up an 802.11g bridge device with a supported USB ethernet adapter. The TiVo will only know about the ethernet adapter connected to it -- the bridge will convert the wired ethernet connection over to a wireless one.

[jreedar]

Originally posted by ccwf
That particular model does not allow recording without a subscription.

Thanks ccwf, I just got this from my girlfriend as a gift and didn't know much about it, she not going to be happy that I'm returning it but that's how it goes. Do you know what the name of the TIVO model is that will allow recording without a subscription?

Thanks again for all your help, I really appreciate it.

[ccwf]

Originally posted by jreedar
Do you know what the name of the TIVO model is that will allow recording without a subscription? Any of the TiVo models that advertise TiVo Basic, which includes most but not all of the TiVo/DVD combo models.
All old Philips Series1 standalone units (servicedvr.com is a Philips service center) plus most standalone Sony units (standalone means not an integrated DirecTV-only model.)

[ashu]

FYI, for others who noticed the recent posts - I'm trying what bob suggested above - all my TiVos have Linksys USB 200M ethernet adapters, and are hooked to (various) Belkin 7230-4 802.11G routers functioning in Bridged Access Point mode. G speeds throughout ... its good :)

The Belkin adapter is available for $10 after rebate/s at CompUSA this week, was 20 at Circuit City last week. Seems like a clearance before a new model makes its way to the shelves. Its FAST, and a great cheap upgrade to an existing B network! Also note that there are two variants of the 7230 - the one in the red box has 2003 hardware and firmware, the white box-ed 7230-4 have 2004 hardware and slightly newer firmware. CC only has red (old), CompUSA has both. Choose wisely :) They DO co-exist happily as bridged APs, since I'm running 2 whites and one red NOW.

[riz1]

Hello,

Will there be support for Linksys WUSB11_V4 Tivo Driver for the Humax DRT800.
Willing to take a beta driver if available,

[Casper42]

HELP!
I have a new TCD5400 Series 2 and I did all the initial setup via phone and the unit is working fine.

I plugged the 122 into it and it said it needed to flash it, so I said go for it.

I then went through the wireless setup wizard and it wouldnt connect. I finally realized I didnt add the MAC to my Allowed MAC list on my WAP, so I added that and did it again and it says connected and hovers around 75-80% signal.

Then I went through the IP Config and told it to use DHCP, no response (Running a MS DHCP Server on Win2000 for the whole house, I'm a SysAdmin by trade). I know its working, as 5 other computers in the house use it, and my TiVo S1 with TurboNet uses DHCP via the same DHCP Server (But its hard wired).

So I hard coded an IP into the S2, and then Bounced it and yet still cannot ping it, and when I test net connection it says it cant find my gateway.

Any Ideas what I'm missing?

PS: WAP is a DLink 2000AP and Router is a DLink 804HV. WAP has 11g only OFF, and I tried changing the TX Rate from AUTP to 11 hard.
PPS: I am using 128bit WEP with an ASCII key and it IS 13 charachters

[Casper42]

Quick update, Turning off WEP completely solved this problem, so its some weird WEP thing. As reccomended in another thread, I will try a hex Wep key and see if the TiVo likes it.

[mstenzel]

Originally posted by marcoval
Will the Netgear MA111NA work ? I notice the TiVO site says the MA111 works for a USB adaptor, but not "V2" I'm curious if the NA tagged on the end means its a "V2".

marcoval,

I went to my local CompUSA and looked at the MA111NA adapters. On the back of the box it says "V.2" so they will NOT work.

However, as I looked at all of the boxes, there were a few that did not say ...NA on the end of the part name on the box (though they did say ...NA on the name on the UPC sticker). The back did not say "V.2" and, get this, on the front of the box there is a "TiVo Compatible" sticker with the TiVo logo. Out of a dozen or so boxes, only 2 were the older V.1 models. They must be clearing them out and replacing them with the V.2/NA models. So if you have a CompUSA near you, I'd head down and have a look.

Good luck.

mstenzel

BTW, the UPCs are identical, so the V.1s will work with the rebate, making the final cost $9.99.

[rbranton]

Forgive me if I have accidentlally placed this in two threads. I am still learning.

Please help.

I bought three series II TIVOs (2-40s, 1-140); a D-Link DI-624 g/b Router version c with firmware 2.4.2 and 3 D-Link DWL-122 USB Wireless adapters with firmware updated in response to TIVO screen. I am having trouble getting my first machine up on the network. I followed ideas in post from tvaddict and idiot-box-junkie in this forum to no avail.

The Tivo recognizes the network ssid automatically. I tried no security, alpha security, and hex security; 64 and 128 bit. Each time I tested with my laptop to ensure I had it right. The Tivo is located 20 feet from the router and my wifi-sniffer shows a very strong signal. Each time when it tries to confirm it provides the message:
"Warning: this network could not be located". A MAC address showes up, but nothing else. I have tried rebooting the router; as well as powering it off and back on. I have not tried powering the Tivo on and off; or otherwise resetting it.
I would greatly appreciate any help. Thx. in advance. Rhb

[Palmdale-CA]

rbranton:
I too have the DI-624 and the DWL-122. It took me several hours of trial and error (mostly error) including trying the DMZ before I finally choose the "shared key" setting on the router and it connected. I tried several more iterations and the only thing that got my Tivo to work was the shared key setting. I reset my laptop to match and everything is well. I am using 64 bit Alpha and have had no problems since setting it up.
I am going through an entertainment center and ceiling and it’s about 30 ft away and still getting 68-75% excellent signal.
Palmdale-CA

[rbranton]

Thanks for the tip. I tried it and briefly had an IP address. However, the connection failed with a new message: "No DHCP Server". I re-entered the network access using "closed connection" instead of selecting the automatic name (which I am still not sure why it was visible given I had switched to a shared mode) and was back to ground zero with no network found. I have tried to get back to at least having an IP address with no success (including unplugging and rebooting TIVO and everything). This is really frustrating and time consuming. Thanks again for your assistance.

[rbranton]

Thanks for the tips. Here is my status on the DLink DI-624 and the DWL-122 TIVO connection. I have given up. My son, who is significantly more technical than me was also unable to get them to work. Therefore, I resurrected my retired DLink 11b DI-713P Router with the DW-122 adaptors on the TIVOs and had two TIVOs online and communicating with each other within 30 minutes; and will have a third one online tonight.

A final note. My idea was to have one 140 hour TIVO that would be used to record most programs; and two satelite 40 hours TIVOs mostly to watch in different rooms. A great idea, but utterly impractical with a wireless 11b network speeds. This speed is not viewing speed and it took over 45 minutes to transfer one 30 min program. Further, it locked down the network for other traffic. If you are planning something similar, I would advise you to either use a hardwired ethernet network or wait until TIVO supports the "g" adaptors or better yet the turbo g adaptors that run at 104 mps. If on the otherhand all you want to be able to do is remote scheduling and internet program update, the 11b is fine.

Thanks again for the advice. If anyone else has any ideas, one day I will want to restore my highspeed wireless network; but I don't have anymore time to invest in it now, so I will live with a slower network speed to gain the online program updates and remote scheduling.

Rhb

[larrywade]

Hi,

I recently purchased a Tivo DVR (Humax), software v5.4xxx. I tried to add a wireless Adapter (Linksys USB54G) without first checking whether it was on the compatible list. It isn't being detected despite re-connecting a couple of times through dial-up. It doesn't appear on either compatible or the complete list. Is there a reason for this? Should I expect that it will be supported in the future? Should I go and purchase a compatible wireless adapter?

Thanks,

L.

[ashu]

Wireless G adapters are not yet supported, supposedly. Although the expectation and the rumours (including supposedly informed sources) imply its only a matter of (hopefully little) time.

G Speeds ARE achievable now via some trickery - see the Ultimate Wireless Network (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149224&perpage=40&pagenumber=1) thread :)

[Stormspace]

Originally posted by rbranton
Thanks for the tips. Here is my status on the DLink DI-624 and the DWL-122 TIVO connection. I have given up. My son, who is significantly more technical than me was also unable to get them to work. Therefore, I resurrected my retired DLink 11b DI-713P Router with the DW-122 adaptors on the TIVOs and had two TIVOs online and communicating with each other within 30 minutes; and will have a third one online tonight.

A final note. My idea was to have one 140 hour TIVO that would be used to record most programs; and two satelite 40 hours TIVOs mostly to watch in different rooms. A great idea, but utterly impractical with a wireless 11b network speeds. This speed is not viewing speed and it took over 45 minutes to transfer one 30 min program. Further, it locked down the network for other traffic. If you are planning something similar, I would advise you to either use a hardwired ethernet network or wait until TIVO supports the "g" adaptors or better yet the turbo g adaptors that run at 104 mps. If on the otherhand all you want to be able to do is remote scheduling and internet program update, the 11b is fine.

Thanks again for the advice. If anyone else has any ideas, one day I will want to restore my highspeed wireless network; but I don't have anymore time to invest in it now, so I will live with a slower network speed to gain the online program updates and remote scheduling.

Rhb

Basic quality recordings transfer in real time over 802.11b connections. Also if you give it a 5-10 minute head start you can transfer two shows between TiVo's. For some reason however the first show transferring gets precendence between the two. So one TiVo displays in real time, and the other needs a few minute pad built in.

[BrettStah]

My sister's wireless network can send a 30 minute recording from one Tivo to the other in 20 minutes. (Basic quality recordings - she rarely uses any other quality, so I wasn't able to test any other quality level when I set up the network for her).

[Stormspace]

Originally posted by BrettStah
My sister's wireless network can send a 30 minute recording from one Tivo to the other in 20 minutes. (Basic quality recordings - she rarely uses any other quality, so I wasn't able to test any other quality level when I set up the network for her).

That is my experience as well. For most shows basic quality is good enough. Shows like Tomb Raider however definately don't do well at basic.

[rasguy]

Ok - I have a few of these USB wireless adapters lying around unused so I figured what the heck I'd try it. After about an hour of futzing around (yes futzing is a technical term) I was able to get it to work.

1) I have a d-LINK DI-624 802.11g WAP in the basement running DHCP
2) I had to turn OFF the WEP encryption - no matter what I did the WEP keys entered (tried HEX and ASCII) would not work
3) DHCP Enabled - no good, Static IP enabled - no good, back to DHCP just for grins - it connected....go figure
4) Signal stregth = 32% marginal but the base sation is buried in the basement - TiVo unit does not complain - reoriented the antennas as best I could
5) I DID let TiVo flash the firmware for the MN-510 as I doubt that I am going to use it on a PC ever again.....MSFT specifically has a KB article stating that if you flash the ROM you do so at your own risk, lots of reports of broken MN-510's after the TiVo ROM flash when people try to use it on a PC again
6) 1st 3 digits of my TiVo 5400 are 540 and S/W version is 5.3.01-2-540

Just a quick post from a newbie with a closetful of old gear.

Looking forward to eliminating the phone cord on my living room floor tonight.

[Stormspace]

You might look into high gain antennas for your access point. Also you can buy a 16' USB cable for your adapter so that you can position it for best reception. I did both and raised the quality from 33% to 82%.

[ThePhantomsGirl]

Hey all,

This MAY be on here somewhere - but I just moved and the trip didn't set well with my computer and it's in the shop. I'm on a laptop connected via (gasp!) dial-up with AOL. (yes, I'm miserable...) Hence why searching is difficult...

Any way, I get here and find out there is NO local dial-up number for TiVo. (Taravres, Florida). Okay - we JUST intalled a Wireless Network (a LinkSys G system). I know I need the WUSB 11 v 2.6 or 2.8 verson.

Question: BUT will it work with the "G" system? (as when I looked today in Office Depot they seem to be "B"'s. I do know TiVo doesn't yet support G - but can I put on a "B" adapater and use it with the "G" system?

Thank you! I MISS my Tivo big time! (and I HATE Comcast you don't want to hear the story about trying to hook up the wireless network....)

Smiles,

Holly

[Stormspace]

The good news is that yes, you can use the B adapter. G is backwards compatible for B. Also you can use a Linksys G Wireless game adapter and connect it to your ethernet port and use G with your TiVo so you can get the full benefit of the G standard.

You also need to have your wireless attached to a broadband connection or at the very least a PC running ICS so TiVo can connect and get data.

[ThePhantomsGirl]

Thanks Stormspace! We are connected via broadband (Comcast which I already hate). I'll have to check out the game adapter thing which you speak of. Would I still buy the B adapter - but also get the game adapter (connected to the ethernet port)?

Smiles,

Holly

[MReynolds2005]

I am having trouble with the gateway settings.
I enter the gateway settings from the Network settings screen but Tivo does not find the router.

any help would be appreciated

[antalo]

Originally posted by rasguy
Ok - I have a few of these USB wireless adapters lying around unused so I figured what the heck I'd try it. After about an hour of futzing around (yes futzing is a technical term) I was able to get it to work.

1) I have a d-LINK DI-624 802.11g WAP in the basement running DHCP
2) I had to turn OFF the WEP encryption - no matter what I did the WEP keys entered (tried HEX and ASCII) would not work

As far as I know you have to enter all the IPs into the Tivo when you set it up, including the security code. I have mine set up for DHCP but no sec codes, therefore you have to turn off the WEP. You could telnet or ftp the codes into the TIVO or change whatever you want to change. My set up works fine, except no WEP.

Also "G" adapters will not work with the TIVO. You can have a "G" router or Gateway which has to set up for "dual" operation.
The TIVO folks said the reason they make the TIVOs to work with "G" adapters, because it would not increase the speed. Evidently inside the TIVO somethings restrict the speed of the data flow. I read ovwer here that they can make the data transfer from one tivo to another faster. You can't watch it faster anyway, so why the rush ? You can tranfer a 30 min. date in 20 min, but you still going to watch it in 30 min. The data has to be read from one drive fed thru the adapter and it has to be received and written to the target drive. You can't feed it faster than it can be read and written. Capish ?
Antalo

[antalo]

Originally posted by MReynolds2005
I am having trouble with the gateway settings.
I enter the gateway settings from the Network settings screen but Tivo does not find the router.

any help would be appreciated


Your gateway should be 192.168.1.1 This has be in the TIVO also. For the IP use DHCP, which means the routeror gateway assigns the IP as they are turned on. 192.168.101 and up. You can assign an IP to the TIVO, but it has to be input in the TIVO . Normally you would assign a number under 100. Print servers use 192.168.1.78 (could be any number) I have a satellite receiver running on linux and I have assigned 192.168.1.24 Anytime you see that number you know whaT it is. I was told that when the "gurus" write a program that's the IP they use, so if you try to assign a different IP, it wont work. I am not an expert, just trying to find my way in the jungle. I forgot to mention, this applies to S1 SA TIVOs. S2 is easy, just follow the instructions. Do NOT USE "G" adapters. Wont work. I tried.
(That doesn't mean it can not be made to work)
Antalo

[antalo]

Originally posted by ThePhantomsGirl
Thanks Stormspace! We are connected via broadband (Comcast which I already hate). I'll have to check out the game adapter thing which you speak of. Would I still buy the B adapter - but also get the game adapter (connected to the ethernet port)?

Smiles,

Holly

If you are psychic, you should know :D :D I checked into the "game adapter" on the net and it cost around $140.- A wireless gateway/router runs around 60 to 80. As I posted before there is no advantage getting "G" adapters for the TIVO. I may be wrong, but that's what the TIVO folks told me. (e-mail). Get a Linksys WRT54G It is wireless and you can also add 4 hard wired units. I assume you are talking about S2 TIVO.
I spent many hours on the Linksys techsupport to get me going and troubleshooting when it got stuck. If it quits, unplug the power from the modem and router and after about 15 or 30 sec. plug in router, wait until all lights are on or flashing, plug in router. Sometimes when it doesn't work, you have to turn off the PC also and turn on when the above 2 are working. It is also important you run the latest firmware and drivers for each peace on your net.
Good luck,
Antalo

[cabinetman]

My first question and my Humax isn't even here yet! But, I'd like to be prepared.

After reading all he wonderful info available at this site, I did purchase the appropriate LinkSys WRT54G router and it's up and running on my computer right now. However, I was also given a WUSB11 adapter but it does not have the "version" printed on it or any of the literature anywhere. It is the model that has no vertical antenna but an internal antenna. I would appear that it is an early version of the models you've listed.

Will this adapter work on the Humax or should I purchase the newer version of this adapter? Any suggestions? Their link is here:
"ftp://ftp.linksys.com/datasheet/wusb11ds.pdf" Remove the quote to make it work since I'm a newbie and can't post links yet.

Thanks, in advance, for your help. I'm really looking forward to getting my system up in my home theater system very soon.

Rome

[Stormspace]

Originally posted by ThePhantomsGirl
Thanks Stormspace! We are connected via broadband (Comcast which I already hate). I'll have to check out the game adapter thing which you speak of. Would I still buy the B adapter - but also get the game adapter (connected to the ethernet port)?

No. You either need the USB "B" adapter or the "G" game adapter. Basically the game adapter acts as a wireless bridge into your ethernet port. It broadcasts the MAC of the TiVo network card and allows you to benefit from the 54mb speed of the "G" standard.

[Stormspace]

Originally posted by antalo
If you are psychic, you should know :D :D I checked into the "game adapter" on the net and it cost around $140.- A wireless gateway/router runs around 60 to 80. As I posted before there is no advantage getting "G" adapters for the TIVO. I may be wrong, but that's what the TIVO folks told me. (e-mail). Get a Linksys WRT54G It is wireless and you can also add 4 hard wired units. I assume you are talking about S2 TIVO.
I spent many hours on the Linksys techsupport to get me going and troubleshooting when it got stuck. If it quits, unplug the power from the modem and router and after about 15 or 30 sec. plug in router, wait until all lights are on or flashing, plug in router. Sometimes when it doesn't work, you have to turn off the PC also and turn on when the above 2 are working. It is also important you run the latest firmware and drivers for each peace on your net.
Good luck,
Antalo

Actually, you are wrong. The "G" game adapter is 59.00 at Walmart. It attaches to the ethernet port of your TiVo which supports up to 100mb speeds, unfortunately "G" will only pump in 54mb. The game adapter requires no drivers and simply emulates a wired conection.

Edit: Checked into it and the Adapter at Walmart was a "B" adapter. The "G" adapter is 99.99 at Circuit City. Definately worth the extra 40 bucks if you already have a "G" router and don't want to run wires. If you compare the "G" game adapter to a USB "B" adapter though the price difference is even more, however there should be no problems with compatibilty as long as you aren't using WEP, which requires a different setup using the game adapter.

PS: Also the game adapter has a switch on it for crossover connections for playing games head to head, this switch needs to be set as straight through if I remember correctly. At any rate, if one setting doesn't work, try the second and it will.

[ThePhantomsGirl]

Thanks!

[ashu]

cyberpsychic - also check out the Ultimate Wireless Network thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149224&highlight=ultimate+wireless). I'm using 3 Belkin G (7230-4) routers (20, 10 and 10 each, resp - assuming rebates come back) to have a super-fast, super-high-range G network throughout my house, with 4 (more with hubs/switches) wired connection points at each router location!

If you DO choose to buy a G bridge, buy it from newegg or someplace similar - should be a LOT less than CrapUSA. Unless you find a rebate deal.

Also, remember that any of these G bridges/game adapters SHOULD support a hub/switch behind it and multiple devices (TiVo/s, game consoles, PCs) connected to that hub/switch.

[Stormspace]

Originally posted by ashutoshsm
cyberpsychic - also check out the Ultimate Wireless Network thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149224&highlight=ultimate+wireless). I'm using 3 Belkin G (7230-4) routers (20, 10 and 10 each, resp - assuming rebates come back) to have a super-fast, super-high-range G network throughout my house, with 4 (more with hubs/switches) wired connection points at each router location!

If you DO choose to buy a G bridge, buy it from newegg or someplace similar - should be a LOT less than CrapUSA. Unless you find a rebate deal.

Also, remember that any of these G bridges/game adapters SHOULD support a hub/switch behind it and multiple devices (TiVo/s, game consoles, PCs) connected to that hub/switch.

With the Linksys Game adapter product it uses the MAC of the attached NIC, so iit's not likely that it will work as a bridge to multiple devices. However if you need a wireless bridge, PCmall is selling a linksys wireless "G" AP for 59.00 that can be configured as a bridge.

[youngr]

On one of my v7.1 S2 units last night, I decided to try and swap my Linksys WUSB11 802.11b adapter with a Dlink DWL-G120 802.11G adapter I had around the house. Initially it did not recognize the Dlink but I left it connected and restarted the Tivo. Upon restart, it recognized the Dlink with no complaints whatsoever. All the wireless settings were preserved from the Linksys config and no changes were needed.

While I have not done any extensive timing so far, streaming a show from another Tivo unit downstairs (using a usb -> ethernet -> 802.11g wireless bridge) seemed to stream much better than with the 802.11b adapter.

Just thought I would pass the good news along.

[gballard]

I received the 80 Hour TiVo Series2 DVR I bought off EBay and have been trying to read up on what needs to be done. I do not have home phone service but I do have Comast HSI for my broadband connectivity. I found this thread about Ethernet VS Phone and I am seeing conflicting information...or at least it appears to be conflicting to me. At lunch today I plan on going by Circuit City and picking up a USB network adapter...I am considering picking up both a wired and wireless one if Circuit City has the approved adapters there in the store. Anyway....what is confusing me is that I have read it is possible to use a wired USB adapter to do the Guided Setup in the absence of a phone line. Then I am seeing other posts saying that you have to use the phone line regardless. I can take the TiVo over to my mom's and use her phone line if need be...but I don't want to tie up her phone line all day...how long does the initial download take? any ideas? It would be sweet to be able to use my broadband connection for this. Since I have the TiVo now, can I go ahead and activate my service or do I need to wait and do that right before I do the guided setup?

Any information will be appreciated...:)

[CrispyCritter]

Wired USB adapter may or may not work depending on the model and exact version of the adapter (this is using the ,#401 phone prefix).

You'll probably want the adapter in any case for other TiVo purposes (HMO and TiVoToGo) so you might as well try it, IMO.

The actual phone call (well, there's really a pair of them), if you can't get the adapter to work for the initial call, will take as long as 20 minutes. However, it's easiest just to leave the TiVo there for the initial processing which could take several hours.

Easiest just to activate the service now, assuming you know the TiVo Service Number.

[gballard]

The initial processing...will that require the phone line for that too? I can't imagine my mom and brother being real excited about me tying up their phone line for several hours.

[BrettStah]

The actual phone call does not take hours. More like 15-20 minutes, IIRC. (There's a quicker initial call that is used to download your local area's cable and satellite offerings, from which you choose what you are going to want to record from. Then the longer call happens. Afterward, there's a process that takes place that indexes all of the downloaded guide data.

[ashu]

And some (wired USB) adapters, on some Series 2 TiVos, under exactly the right conditions (planets and moons ARE involved!) will be able to allow the FIRST call/s for Guided Setup to occur over the USB-ethernet connection.

On new TiVos recently - relatives', friends' and my own, over just the last 4+ months - I've had the Linksys USB200M and the Belkin F5D5050 work about 33% of the time, at best. The remaining times, I had to beg/borrow a phone line. Unfortunately, I did not see any consistency.

240-series units - 40 refurb and 140 new: both FAILED
540-series unit - 40 new FAILED< 140 new PASSED
SD-H400 - FAILED
DRT800 - PASSED

[Stormspace]

Originally posted by Stormspace
With the Linksys Game adapter product it uses the MAC of the attached NIC, so iit's not likely that it will work as a bridge to multiple devices. However if you need a wireless bridge, PCmall is selling a linksys wireless "G" AP for 59.00 that can be configured as a bridge.

Just in case anyone was wondering, allow me to confirm that yes indeed, I am an idiot. I neglected to examine the rear of my TiVo box to see if an RJ45 jack existed. I made an assumption based on my son's XBox. I guess in my deluded mind somewhere the black cases merged and confused me into thinking that the RJ45 jack was on my TiVo as well.

At any rate, the wireless "G" game adapter I was mentioning earlier in this thread will work, but only with a USB-->ethernet adapter. The only real benefits to using a "G" game adapter with the USB ethernet adapter is that a)Once USB 2 drivers become available throughput will automatically increase to USB 2 standards, and b) Wireless network speeds will not degrade because a "B" client is on the network.

I apologize for any confusion brought about by this, I am indeed an idiot. <arrghh!>

[gballard]

Just thought I would check back in and let ya'll know the guided setup using my broadband connection went off without a hitch....I just followed the steps I found here in these forums and less than 20 minutes later I was done. It is processing the data now. My setup is the Tivo 80 hour DVR starting with 240, a Linksys USB100M USB network adapter and about 50 feet of Cat5 that I "borrowed" from work. I decided to go with a wired setup because my Tivo is in my bedroom which is right next to my computer room. I just tucked the Cat5 under the baseboard as I went. I then hooked up the USB adapter using the extension cable provided and then plugged my Cat5 into it. I then plugged the power cord into the Tivo and then plugged that into the power strip. Once I changed the channel selector to Channel 3 I was good to go. I went through the setup without a single hiccup...I am thrilled to death that it went so easy. The guy I bought the Tivo from even thought to include the serial adapter so I could connect my Tivo to my Comcast digital cable box serially and now the Tivo remote controls the cable box...too cool. I hate to sound like a total newb here...but heck...I am....so someone tell me what I can do now?? What is this Home Media Option I have been hearing about? OK I have rambled enough...just wanted to share my success with you guys.

[CrispyCritter]

Originally posted by gballard
Just thought I would check back in and let ya'll know the guided setup using my broadband connection went off without a hitch... ...
What is this Home Media Option I have been hearing about? OK I have rambled enough...just wanted to share my success with you guys. Welcome to the TiVolution!

The next step is just to enjoy your control over your TV.

The next added feaure after that to explore is the Home Media Option. Download the TiVo Desktop onto your PC, and you'll be able to listen to your MP3 music and see your photos through your TV (or home theater setup if you have one of those).
Enjoy!

[gballard]

I downloaded and installed Tivo Desktop...pretty slick...now I can see I am gonna have to get a small home theater system for my bedroom now so I can enjoy my mp3s off my computer....

[ThePhantomsGirl]

Originally posted by ashutoshsm
[B]And some (wired USB) adapters, on some Series 2 TiVos, under exactly the right conditions (planets and moons ARE involved!) will be able to allow the FIRST call/s for Guided Setup to occur over the USB-ethernet connection.
/B]

By the way - and so will some wireLESS adapters...sometimes. I got my Linksys WUSB11 v 2.8 to do it. It failed the first attempt - but I tried it again a couple of hours later and it worked that time.

Smiles,

Holly

[nanllyn]

I'm confused, well you knew that! LOL!
I went to CompUSA and they said they had a Tivo compatible USB adapter So I bought a NetGear Model number: MA111NA I'm not sure what the version is. My Tivo service number starts with 540.
My question is I have gone through the list that you guys put together of compatible adapters. It states that version 1 is possible compatible and version 2 is not. Yet my box has a Tivo Compatible sticker on it.
I have done a search on this forum and see several people mention they got the MA111 to work but most don't save what version, so I'm not sure mine will work.
Also do I need to install anything first before connecting it to my Tivo? There are no directions in the box or on Netgear's website.
Thanks again.

[ashu]

Originally posted by ThePhantomsGirl
By the way - and so will some wireLESS adapters...sometimes. I got my Linksys WUSB11 v 2.8 to do it. It failed the first attempt - but I tried it again a couple of hours later and it worked that time.

Smiles,

Holly

Really? First call EVER with that TiVo? Not a pre-configured, presold (refrubsihed) or recently re-formatted (Clear and Delete All) TiVo?

(While I doubt its possible, if it DID indeed work) That implies you aren't using WEP or any form of security on your TiVo. And default (manufacturer) configs as well). NOT good :)

[ThePhantomsGirl]

Hey....

It was a re-do of Guided set-up - so not first EVER call.

Actually yes, we do have WEP security.

It worked.... why would I lie? (your comment about if it DID indeed work.) It did it - and I'm happy.

Holly

[hesray]

Thanks for your reply - My network set up works onthe TIVO -signal strength good - but downloading pictures or music from computer to TIVO does not work
rshessel@optonline.net

[CrispyCritter]

Originally posted by ThePhantomsGirl
Hey....

It was a re-do of Guided set-up - so not first EVER call.

Actually yes, we do have WEP security.

It worked.... why would I lie? (your comment about if it DID indeed work.) It did it - and I'm happy. There is a major difference between the first EVER call, and a redo of guided setup. Nobody has ever reported getting the first ever call working with wireless, and if you read the previous postings closely, that was what is being discussed here. It would be a major shock if wireless had worked for the first ever call, thus ashutoshsm's surprise when you seemed to be claiming to have done it.

[hesray]

no NEVER FIRST TIME SUCCESSFUL WITH WIRELESS. It has taken me over one year to get the wireless to work Linksys b - However, in 2005 I must have spent 5 + hours just on phone. My problem now is the link between my desk top and TIVO - 20" away - does not work. I shoul be able to download pictures and or Music from Desk top to Tivo- Have decided it's not worth the time and effort. TIVO works great as a recorder -have no complaints with unit's function.
rshessel@optonline.net

[TGtoys]

I've been posting about this problem in a device-specific thread, and thought I'd might get some more exposure/ideas from this one...

I've been having trouble getting a wireless network adapter to work with my Toshiba RS-TX20. I've gone through troubleshooting, Toshiba, Tivo and D-Link support, and tried both the DWL-122 and Linksys WUSB11 V3.0 with two different Toshiba units, to no avail. The software version in the Toshiba is 5.4-01-2-565. The unit id number starts with 565.

Here are the basic symptoms:

In the "Phone & Network Setup" screen, the IP, MAC, SSID and signal strength appear for about 30-45 seconds after I plug in the USB network adapter. Then, the signal goes to "(None)", and after a few more seconds the rest of the information disappears. When I go into the Wireless Settings, it gives a message titled "No Wireless Adapter": "A wireless network adapter was not detected..."

Restarting, unplugging/replugging, etc., don't have any effect. I can unplug/replug the USB network adapter over and over and get the same behavior.

If anyone has seem something similar, I'd *really* appreciate hearing ideas for solutions!

Thanks!

[hesray]

Wish I could help you - assume you have a wireless /cable device- might check with MFG. I finally got a signal - however Tivo between my computer does not work- after 30 minutes yesterday with TIVO customer service I was told they don't how to help me and usggested a level 2 service rep- The bottom line- works great as a recorder - computer& Tivo is big problems
rshessel@optonline.net

[ashu]

Originally posted by TGtoys

If anyone has seem something similar, I'd *really* appreciate hearing ideas for solutions!

Thanks!

Hmm - try jumping quickly into the menu/NPL on your second TiVo if you own one -and initiating a transfer. Or from your PC. See if that retains the connection longer.

Also, when setting up potentially buggy wireless devices, start with the simplest setup first - no WEP, standard channel (cycle around - you may have interfering signal from neighbors' WEPs, microwave oven, your 2.4GHz cordless home phone!). THEN add in WEP and other settings (hiding the SSDI - no broadcast) one at a time.

You *could* just have a bum DWL-122. It happens. Exchange it if possible!

Also, try different USB slots (there are 2) on the TiVo.

[hesray]

Thanks for your reply - Tivo wireless connection works good signal . My problem is compuiter talking with TIVO- Photos and Music. What ever I do it does not work and Tec. hep at TiVO - # 2 tec level - can't heph either.
It could be my wireless phone2.4 GHZ or any other item around.

Tivo works great as a recorder -Am leaving at that. They do have some new Software available soon"TIVO to GO" Their 2.0 desktop version supposed to work on windows XP - it does not - only 1.3 older version.

Not worth the 10 + hours on the phone with TIVO.

[ashu]

Shouldn't ake that long,a nd shouldn't be that defficult. Since you didn't post more info - I'd just suggest you re-check your network settings on the PC,s ee if you can ping the TiVo's IP address and ensure Desktop can see the TiVo (in the Server menu)

[hesray]

Thanks for your reply- Net work settings are good- However TIVO says to disable the Firewall ports on my Computer. DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT!! As for your suggestion to PING - How do I do that??
rshesel@optonline.net

[ashu]

Firewall (assuming Window XP) - Control Panel, network connections, click on the curently active one, should be one of the configuration tabs when you open it to edit it, or one of the taps when you click TCP/IP options. You're better of using a 3rd party free firewall - like ZoneAlarm. It'll come up and say "TiVoBeacon trying to connect -allow?" etc. Sensible.

Ping - in your TiVo's network setup screen, notedown the IP address (it'll be of the 192.168.xxx.xxx) and on your PC open a command prompt (Start->Rn->cmd->(Press Enter) and type
ping that.IP.ddress.you.just.noted.down
If the PC can see the TiVo (and your ping isn't blocked by your firewall!) you'll see something like how many milliseconds the IP address responded in.

Between that and turning on and then selectively re-enabling the firewall (someone somewhare has documented which ports are needed for TTG to work - use Search) - you should be golden.

[jcarroll01]

Recently added or I guess changed routers from a Netgear unit to the above D-link. Wanted to standardize on D-link and upgrade to G. Well previously working Netgear unit and DWL-122 doesn't work when all pieces are now D-Link.....go figure. I've read the discussion here and don't know if I've seen anything that is really definitive. Anyone have an update or something that might not have been looked at? Quite frustrating to have it working and then not......here are some steps that I have taken.

Rotated through all security settings and reset the DWL-122 - Anything special need to be done on the TiVO side? I just unplug / plug the adapter.

I'm getting 86% signal strength on a laptop located within 10 feet of the TiVO, so I don't think it is a signal strentgh issue.

Firmware on 624 is 2.5

TiVO series 2 - 540xxx

TiVO just has (no signal) and the mac address shown.

Thanks for any help.

[SDH400]

How do I report a new USB adaptor that is compatible or incompatible? More importantly, how do I see these reports as they are reported?

Does TiVo report the type of adaptor as it is phoning home?

[TiVoBill]

How do I report a new USB adaptor that is compatible or incompatible? More importantly, how do I see these reports as they are reported?

Does TiVo report the type of adaptor as it is phoning home?

The complete list of compatible adapters can be found at www.tivo.com/adapters. Yes, the TiVo reports the adapter it is using when it connects to the TiVo service, but only adapters that are recognized will be reported. We not recommend using an adapter that is not on our list.

[antalo]

The complete list of compatible adapters can be found at www.tivo.com/adapters. Yes, the TiVo reports the adapter it is using when it connects to the TiVo service, but only adapters that are recognized will be reported. We not recommend using an adapter that is not on our list.

Hello TivoBill,

Would you please add the Linksys WUSB54G to the S2 list. As I posted before, the 240xxxs I had to reboot for it to read the adapter. The 540xxx read it right away.
Thank You,
Antalo

[FeintingDragon]

Trying to set up wireless on my new TiVo, to no avail.

Trying to use a D-Link DWL -120+ (H/W Ver.:A1 F/W Ver.:1.00)
Quotes show exactly what is on the Adapter. I dont know if its version F or version E.

TiVo Software version 5.3-01-2-540

Reading above led me to think I needed special TiVo Software, but the link to the special software is dead.
I have restarted the TiVo, several times, with no luck.
It is not seeing the network adaptor.
Following this trail,
TiVo Central > Messages & Setup > Settings > Phone and Network > Edit Phone settings
There is no option to edit network settings!
Where am I going wrong?
Thanks in advance.....

[ashu]

If by new - you mean its NEVER been setup before, unfortunately you are required to use a phone line or a wired network adapter (with the ,#401 trick - search you'll find it) for first Guided Setup. Thereafter, if this is a supported adapter, you should be fine.

[Stormspace]

as Ashu said, if this TiVo is new, you must first set it up with a phone connection or use the #401 trick. However, if you have already set it up with the phone connection you must sit back and wait for the adapter drivers to be loaded on your tivo during an update. You can force the TiVo to update, but I don't know what length of time has to pass before the update will be installed. For my own part I just plugged in the adapter and waited for a message to appear saying that a network adapter had been detected. In fact by the time you read this the message will likely b eon your machine...

[antalo]

Trying to set up wireless on my new TiVo, to no avail.

Trying to use a D-Link DWL -120+ (H/W Ver.:A1 F/W Ver.:1.00)
Quotes show exactly what is on the Adapter. I dont know if its version F or version E.

TiVo Software version 5.3-01-2-540

Reading above led me to think I needed special TiVo Software, but the link to the special software is dead.
I have restarted the TiVo, several times, with no luck.
It is not seeing the network adaptor.
Following this trail,
TiVo Central > Messages & Setup > Settings > Phone and Network > Edit Phone settings
There is no option to edit network settings!
Where am I going wrong?
Thanks in advance.....

First of all, you assume I (we are) am psychic. I am not. At least I can figure out you have a 540xxx model. I don't know how far you are with the set up, or you already done the setup. The first 2 calls MUST bwe made using a landline. First it will get you a local number to call, then after you pick your service (DTV or DN) it will download some software with your locals. After that has been installed you may change from phoneline to network. Than it will recognise the adapter. You should read the instructions, it can't be any clearer.
It also will update your software to 7.1 xxxxx-540
It always help following instructions. If that fails read the instructions. The TIVO tells you at each step what you need to do.
Have fun,
antalo

[ashu]

The first 2 calls MUST bwe made using a landline.

Except that they mustn't ;)

Most (if not all) 540-series TiVos will successfully make their first call for Guided Setup using a WIRED USB-Ethernet adapter on a DHCP-based network with the ,#401 dial prefix.

[FeintingDragon]

Sorry, I have connected via phone several times. That part is working super, got the lineup, seasons passes, etc.....
But nothing will make it acknowledge the network adaptor.
I've seen where it requires version 7 something, and I signed up to get it. (not yet tho).

[antalo]

Sorry, I have connected via phone several times. That part is working super, got the lineup, seasons passes, etc.....
But nothing will make it acknowledge the network adaptor.
I've seen where it requires version 7 something, and I signed up to get it. (not yet tho).

Did you set up the "wireless Settings" ? You have to change from Phone Dialing to Network. Setup the "Wireless Settings" and TCP/IP Set it "Obtain IP address aautomatically" It should recognise the adapter . It also should find your router. The name of your router . Are you sure your adapter is working? Check it out connecting it to a PeeCee. It is possible it does not work. I just set up 3 Tivos a few days ago and all of them upgraded to 7.1 right away. I don't know why yours hasn't done so. Evidently they all cought up by now. Did you by any chance upgrade the Tivo? Did you install bigger drives ? If you did, what software did you use ? Some software prevents the TIVO from software upgrading. I don't remember if you posted anything about that. What is exactly the model or service number of your TIVO ?
Good luck,
Antalo

[sdallnct]

Except that they mustn't ;)

Most (if not all) 540-series TiVos will successfully make their first call for Guided Setup using a WIRED USB-Ethernet adapter on a DHCP-based network with the ,#401 dial prefix.

Thanks to help at another thread, that is exactly what I did and worked great! For whatever reason I could not get thru setup on a phone line. Toshiba even told me I had a defective unit!

However, I was able to do initial setup with broadband and doing the ,#401 "trick". I then switched to wireless, and life is good! I believe my modem may be fried, but who cares! I'd just assume use my network and that way no extra phone cord tor worry about.

[FeintingDragon]

The whole problem is I dont get the option to set up wireless network. Only the phone option.
Brand new TiVo , 540 series, connected via phone many times already. Have signed up for the software version 7. (whatever) but not received yet. The D-Link came straight off a home puter that was in my home network, and working fine.

Current Software version 5.3-01-2-540
Never upgraded the Tivo.
If its a software problem I can understand. Just want to make sure its not me.

Antalo, I do read the instructions! When that fails, I DO read them again.
For a newbee tho there seems to be a lot of acronyms, conflicting instructions, and just unclear stuff.

Thanks again for any more advice.

[sdallnct]

I'm a total newb, but I can relay my story.

When I finally got the initial set up done via WIRED broad band, I went and got a WIRELESS USB adapter, but could not get it to work or recognize it. Checking "the list" of checked adapters verified the one I picked up would not work. So I went and got the WIRELESS USB adapter off my son's computer as it was on the list that said it would work, and it did.

(I then put the new wireless USB adapter on son's computer before he had a fit about no internet!).

But until it would recognize the wireless adapter, I could see the option of wireless connection, but it would not let me into it. It kept saying "you need to connect a wireless adapter".

So my advise would be to go to Best Buy or somewhere where they have a good return policy and pick up one that is on "the list" of approved wireless adapters, and try that.

[antalo]

The whole problem is I dont get the option to set up wireless network. Only the phone option.
Brand new TiVo , 540 series, connected via phone many times already. Have signed up for the software version 7. (whatever) but not received yet. The D-Link came straight off a home puter that was in my home network, and working fine.

Current Software version 5.3-01-2-540
Never upgraded the Tivo.
If its a software problem I can understand. Just want to make sure its not me.

Antalo, I do read the instructions! When that fails, I DO read them again.
For a newbee tho there seems to be a lot of acronyms, conflicting instructions, and just unclear stuff.

Thanks again for any more advice.

I know what you mean, sometimes I can't see things poking my eyes out. At this point I would call TIVO Tech support. The unit maybe defective. They offered me a replacement eventhough I told them I upgraded it and was having some kind of "hardware" problem.
One more thing you could do. Do a "Delete and erase everything. It is in the menu where you reboot the unit. It will take one hour to clean up the drive and than you start from scratch setting it up. If it still not working and does not upgrade, get a replacement.
Antalo

P.S. Try unplugging the AC cord for about 30 sec and plug it back in with the USB adapter pluged in.

[CrispyCritter]

The whole problem is I dont get the option to set up wireless network. Only the phone option.
Brand new TiVo , 540 series, connected via phone many times already. Have signed up for the software version 7. (whatever) but not received yet. The D-Link came straight off a home puter that was in my home network, and working fine.

Current Software version 5.3-01-2-540
Never upgraded the Tivo.
If its a software problem I can understand. Just want to make sure its not me.Not getting the network settings only means that the TiVo is not recognizing the adapter; it doesn't mean any great problems with the TiVo.

Checking TiVo's on-line list of adapters (http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2184.htm?) you can see that one of the DWL 120 versions requires the newest TiVo software (7.1) in order to work. So my guess is that you have that version, and will have to get 7.1 before it will work. There should still be a priority list so you can get the new version in just a few days (address should be in the first post on the main prioirty list message at the top of the TiVoToGo Forum).

[Wildcat_1]

My problem is I have a Series 2 with a WUSB11 2.6 plugged in the back which it sees perfectly. THe problem is that the TIVO will not see my wireless lan (using an SMC Barricade G 2804wbr router) no matter what I turn on and off but if I take the WUSB11 out of the tivo and use it on a pc it comes to life instantly

HELP ME PLEASE

[hubbsey]

(bump - mods, care to make this sticky?)
When I test my connection I get the message: Failed = Gateway not found.
Where did I go wrong? Charles Hubbard Milton, WI hubbard5606@sbcglobal.net
Thanks for any consideration extended.

[Ozz1113]

The whole problem is I dont get the option to set up wireless network. Only the phone option.
Brand new TiVo , 540 series, connected via phone many times already. Have signed up for the software version 7. (whatever) but not received yet. The D-Link came straight off a home puter that was in my home network, and working fine.

Current Software version 5.3-01-2-540
Never upgraded the Tivo.
If its a software problem I can understand. Just want to make sure its not me.

Antalo, I do read the instructions! When that fails, I DO read them again.
For a newbee tho there seems to be a lot of acronyms, conflicting instructions, and just unclear stuff.

Thanks again for any more advice.


FeintingDragon, I have the same issue. I have just downloaded 7.1a and went through 3 usb network adapters. I still do not see the network settings. What the hell do we have to do? I am currently using, D-Link DWL G120.

[Ozz1113]

When I test my connection I get the message: Failed = Gateway not found.
Where did I go wrong? Charles Hubbard Milton, WI hubbard5606@sbcglobal.net
Thanks for any consideration extended.

Are you using dhcp? You may want to manually enter the gateway ip in the tcp settings.

[Wildcat_1]

In the end I never did get my 2.6 EUSB11 to work even with a Linksys router on teh backend and numerous config chanegs. I went out and purchased a wireless ethernet bridge and teh Linksys USB200m wired adapter linked the two together and had 802.11g 54Mbps in a bout 1 minute afterwards. This was definately the best option for me and works great even when streaming from my tivo to my PC. I recommend this route to anyone. If ya need help let me know

WC

[Ozz1113]

FeintingDragon, I have the same issue. I have just downloaded 7.1a and went through 3 usb network adapters. I still do not see the network settings. What the hell do we have to do? I am currently using, D-Link DWL G120.
Strange, it just appeared....
I have been pluggin the adapter in and out the whole night. Suddenly, while plugging it in, it rebooted on me right away. After I got back, I had an email waiting for me saying it found a network card. Poor design...

[Buzzword01]

:mad: After just buying my second Tivo, I decided that a wireless network was in order. Little did I know what kind of trouble that would be! After reading some of these threads, it's obvious that I am not alone in this aggravation.

After buying wireless adapters at a local store only to find out that they wouldn't work...I went directly to the Tivo Store to buy replacements. I was thrilled to see the Tivo Message: "These adapters will work in your Tivo". That sense of happiness was short-lived. When they arrived today...of course, they are not compatible. After digging through this community information, it seems that the adapters that I purchased are only compatible with software version 7.1...which, of course, I do not have (even though the second Tivo is brand new.)

Which leads to a whole other conundrum...The Tivo OPs Mgr. thread on software versions clearly states that software versions are automatically updated with service connection...what a farce that is! If 7.1 is the newest version, and upgrades are automatic, why are both of my Tivos still using the original software?

I'm sure that these are questions and concerns that have been banging around this forum since its inception...but I don't have the time or energy to read through the threads to find my answers. I find it truly mind-bogling that Tivo doesn't CLEARLY state...use this adpater for this machine. All I want is to set up my Tivos on my wireless network. Since Tivo is constantly promoting that option, why can't there be an easy way to make that happen?

[TiVoBill]

I'm sure that these are questions and concerns that have been banging around this forum since its inception...but I don't have the time or energy to read through the threads to find my answers. I find it truly mind-bogling that Tivo doesn't CLEARLY state...use this adpater for this machine. All I want is to set up my Tivos on my wireless network. Since Tivo is constantly promoting that option, why can't there be an easy way to make that happen?

You can find the list of supported adapters at tivo.com/adapters (http://www.tivo.com/adapters). The reason that you haven't gotten 7.1 automatically is that it is still in the rollout phase. If the specific adapter that you have requires software version 7.1, you can request it at tivo.com/priority (http://www.tivo.com/priority). It normally takes a couple of days for you to receive the new software once you request it.

[ccwf]

To expand a little on what TiVoBill wrote, you get an automatic update to the latest version of software for your model of DVR that's completed its rollout phase. That's usually the same as saying you get the latest version of software period. But right now, since we happen to be in the middle of a rollout, it's not.

[cyconley]

I just got a Dell True Mobile 1180 and it works great with my "540". Just thought I would post her since I have never seen any body use one.

[BustaG]

Hey TivoBill, Are you guys ever going to add any Linksys wireless-g adapters. Would prefer WUSB54G. Would really like to know since I am upgrading network to G and would like to have everything on G including my Tivos.

[RBurks]

Hey TivoBill, Are you guys ever going to add any Linksys wireless-g adapters. Would prefer WUSB54G. Would really like to know since I am upgrading network to G and would like to have everything on G including my Tivos.

I found a g solution that is currently backward compatible to TIVO.

Belkin F5D7230-4 802.11g router
Netgear WG111NA (not MA111 or WG111RV) usb adapter

Works well, and it will work at g rates if TIVO ever gets there.


Router - $39 Walmart
Adapter - $39 Fry's

[JustAllie]

Hey TivoBill, Are you guys ever going to add any Linksys wireless-g adapters. Would prefer WUSB54G. Would really like to know since I am upgrading network to G and would like to have everything on G including my Tivos.The TiVo Store sells the Netgear WG111, so surely that one works. I hope!

[only-me]

Can someone please help me out? I am a total newbie at this, and confused about the whole networking thing. I just bought my first Tivo2 540 series. I managed to set it up as per the included directions using a landline. I even updated the software to 7.1 hoping to get tivo2go working sometime in the near future.

First question I have is: do I need to have broadband in order to utilize a wireless setup from pc to tivo?

Question 2: If so, then... would a wired solution allow me to use tivo2go to transfer files to my pc?

Question 3: if not, is there a way to accomplish this?

I am grateful for whatever help anyone could provide. Thanks.

[duncan7]

Q1: No. You should be able to connect up a WLAN between you PC and your TiVo without having broadband upstream. (It should even be possible to have your PC act as a bridge and use your existing dial-in service to connect to TiVo, but that won't really get you anything speed-wise over letting the TiVo dial in, directly.) The exact setup here will depend on the wireless hardware you buy. Off the top of my head, I'd say it'll be easiest to get a wireless *router* that will hand out IP addresses to both you PC and your TiVo, though it would probably be possible to use an /ad hoc/ setup without a router.

Q2: Tivo2Go works with both wireless and wired connections. Wired will be a little faster.

[only-me]

Q1: No. You should be able to connect up a WLAN between you PC and your TiVo without having broadband upstream. (It should even be possible to have your PC act as a bridge and use your existing dial-in service to connect to TiVo, but that won't really get you anything speed-wise over letting the TiVo dial in, directly.) The exact setup here will depend on the wireless hardware you buy. Off the top of my head, I'd say it'll be easiest to get a wireless *router* that will hand out IP addresses to both you PC and your TiVo, though it would probably be possible to use an /ad hoc/ setup without a router.

Q2: Tivo2Go works with both wireless and wired connections. Wired will be a little faster.


Thanks for the info. Now, I just have to figure out what to get to accomplish this.

[norton_l]

I've got a friend who got a new Tivo for Christmas and disliked the phone chord going across her bedroom. She opted for a wireless phone jack, which for some reason, a few months later, no longer works to complete the calls. I suggested connecting wirelessly through her network for two reasons:
One, it worked just fine for me at home; I'm using a D-Link DWL-122 usb adaptor in my Tivo Series 2 with software version 7.1 with my Belkin wireless router. Makes the connection downloads daily; Tivo To Go works; I get my pictures and music on my Tivo; it was an easy setup, no problems, I'm in Tivo Hog Heaven.

She asked me to set up her Tivo and I said no problem, as it was no problem for me, but, of course, alas, her setup was a big ol stinking problem, and I can't really figure out why - perhaps one of you can help me.

She's got a Tivo Series 2 standalone DVR, and is connecting to the internet wirelessly through SBC Yahoo. She's got a 2Wire - modem? I think? It sure doesn't look like a router, so it must just be a wireless modem. There's a WEP key in brackets on the bottom of it, 40-to-64 bit encryption (please forgive me for my inaccuracies, I'm emailing from home and am working from memory). Anyway, her 2Wire modem is one I've seen in many setups for SBC Yahoo here in Los Angeles - it stands on its side and looks kind of like this >_< .

I brought my own d-link DWL-122 and the Tivo recognized it; I downloaded the update and led Tivo through the network setup. Tivo located the network name, which I selected. When I reached the passphrase/encryption section, I put in the WEP key in brackets. Tivo then looked for the network, but replied that it couldn't connect.

I then went through the setup again, opting this time to not put in a password, thinking that my friend didn't use one in the first place. This time, I selected no password, and Tivo automatically accepted 40 to 64 bit encryption. Tivo connected to the local network, saying it had a strong signal. I attempted to connect to the Tivo service via the network, but Tivo couldn't connect. The error message stated it couldn't locate a DHCP server.

I went through the setup again and put the WEP key in different places during the setup - each time from then on, however, Tivo would not connect to the local network; it would never get a signal. I even tried going back to connecting without a password, but it won't do so any more.

I called SBC Yahoo customer service and after half an hour on the phone, they told me nothing helpful, except that I should call Tivo Customer Service. I had to leave at that point, though, so now I'm asking you guys.

Does anyone have experience with the 2Wire wireless internet gateway with SBC Yahoo and setting up the Tivo wireless network? How did you do it? The only difference I can see between my network at home (which works) and hers (which is driving me NUTS) is that I'm using a wireless router, and the 2Wire appears to be a wireless modem. Does she require a wireless router in order for Tivo to work? Can it not network with the wireless 2Wire modem? If so, how do I do it? My first guess is that the 2Wire has a static IP address that I'd need to configure manually - I'd rather not spend half an hour on customer support again. Help?

Thanks!
Norton

[ashu]

Umm - try using a (wirelss) laptop to connect. If your friend already has such a setup in place, replicate the network settings on the TiVo. If WEP is active, you can't arbitrarily run SOME devices on your network without it :)

Can't you log in to the router's network web interface to check the status (WEP and related details) and use those?

[norton_l]

She's got a laptop hooked up to the network just fine - I'll try replicating those entries. I accessed the 2wire from the laptop, but a lot of it is "friendly icons" and "helpful graphics," which take a lot of clicking and searching through to find what I want. I'm pretty sure my main question is - is the 2wire a router? She's got a laptop and desktop accessing the internet through the 2wire, but the computers aren't networked together in what I traditionally consider a LAN; it's like they're both set to access the 2wire themselves to get to the internet. Everything was so easy and automated for me adding my Tivo to my wireless network here at home, but I have a genuine LAN set up; I don't believe she does. Is the 2wire a router or just a modem? And if it's just a modem, can Tivo connect to it?

[velbert]

Has anyone been able to set up Humax with the D-Link DWL-G132?

[jhausmann]

Is there any hope that the list of wireless adapters for S2 serial numbers beginning with 110, 130, or 140 will get an update? Right now, it doesn't look like there are any adapters that can be purchased (being as most of the "supported" adapters are downlevel....

[jhausmann]

OK, are there any wireless bridges that will work with the S2s with the hopeless serial numbers?

[tweekerz]

DWL-G120 Works with my Series 2 130xxxxxx.

Is there any hope that the list of wireless adapters for S2 serial numbers beginning with 110, 130, or 140 will get an update? Right now, it doesn't look like there are any adapters that can be purchased (being as most of the "supported" adapters are downlevel....

[finger11]

ok... i *did* search threads tryin to find this answer, but its an easy question

i have the toshiba sd-h400 tivo.. if i want to connect it to my pc to play music, etc, do i have to be subscribed to the tivo service you have to pay for?

thanks guys.

[ashu]

yes.

http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv1199.htm?

[trenec]

I'm also having problems with connecting my Tivo to my new SBC DSL service. I also have a 2Wire modem/router. I've entered the WEP password in my Tivo, and it sees the network, but everytime I try to connect, I get a "No DHCP server". Any help? I checked the settings on the modem and there are still spots available to assign, but still no luck. I have two other computers that are wireless and are connecting with no problems. Thanks!

[DevdogAZ]

OK, I've skimmed the thread but I don't see my question answered. I just bought one of those free refurbed 40-hour S2s. It will be coming in a couple of days. I'd like to get a network adapter ASAP. Since I have a D-Link G Router, I'd like to get the D-Link Adapter listed on the TiVo site (DWL-G120 version B2). My question is: what does "version B2" mean and how can I tell what version it is if I'm ordering it online? Does that mean it has to be an older one or is that a new version? I found this adapter for a pretty good price online, but don't want to buy it if it's not going to work. Any advice would be appreciated.

[itex7608]

This solution is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe that you expect users to waste so much of their time with your crummy product.

PLEASE, report TiVo to the Better Businees Bureau. They have no business to "be in business".

[mick66]

PLEASE, report TiVo to the Better Businees Bureau. .

Since you like to correct spelling errors - it's 'business'

[nickyk]

I'm also having problems with connecting my Tivo to my new SBC DSL service. I also have a 2Wire modem/router. I've entered the WEP password in my Tivo, and it sees the network, but everytime I try to connect, I get a "No DHCP server". Any help? I checked the settings on the modem and there are still spots available to assign, but still no luck. I have two other computers that are wireless and are connecting with no problems. Thanks!
I am experiencing the same problem. Have you figured out a solution?

[dupah]

I checked again tonight, and the WUSB11 V. 2.6 again connected fine to my neighbor's network, even though he has a password (I guessed and got it right since we are friends). Whenever I get off of his Big Blue Network and go to my linksys, however, I get a "cannot find network" prompt.

My older is networked fine with my own computers, using WUSB11 V. 3.0, and works great.

Therefore, it seems to me that something must be different between the two TIVOs (or the devices are just inherently different enough between 2.6 and 3.0 to make a difference).

I did notice that the software on the one that IS connecting is 7.1b-01-2-240....whereas on the one that cannot find the network (where I downloaded the new software last night), the software is 7.1b01-2-540. Could it be that I need the older 7.1b-01-2-240 version on my newer TIVO to match the other one? Anything else I can try? I am connecting them exactly the same way, and both are well within range.

I have called TIVO and linksys Tech Support numerous times, and nobody there had a clue. I am willing to pay anything within reason to fix this. I have a wirless Xbox adaptor, for example, and that works fine. Maybe I need to spend the $100 to buy one of those with an adaptor from ethernet to USB to use with my TIVO?

I am running a Linksys BEFW11S4 Router
with a WSB24 instant booster

If you are too busy to help me can you refer me to someone else? I am home in the evenings if anyone is there now who can call me. HELP.

Dennis

[dupah]

I had the same issue. All you need to do is go to the website and request the software upgrade on a priority basis. After you do so, RESTART your TIVO (I unplugged and removed the USB for 30 seconds to be REALLY certain) and THEN do a phone download....you'll likely find that the upgrade downloads...and then you'll be prompted to restart.

Unfortunately, I still cannot get that TIVO online....but THAT is not the problem!

[deanmacbaine]

because the dummies at Best Buy weren't real helpful (stupid geek squad!!).

I recently moved and have yet to get my Tivo up and running since I decided against a land line at the new place. So before I even worry about getting the wireless network set up, I need to take my Tivo box somewhere and connect it to a phone line for updates?

Then, I have Linksys Wireless G router and was told to pick up the Netgear USB adapter (the one that has Tivo approved on the box). Are the two different products compatible because again the dummies were wishy-washy about it (I kept getting the "you can always bring it back" response)?

And if I must do the phone updates first, how exactly do I set this network up again? Can I just plug the USB in and tivo should recognize it? Or should I connect it to the router with a hardline first and then work with the USB second?

[azitnay]

You certainly won't be able to do initial guided setup via wireless... You can sometimes do it via wired ethernet, but it doesn't sound like you have a wired USB ethernet adapter. Just take it to a friend's house for the initial guided setup if possible.

Any wireless-G adapter (I'm assuming you have the WG111) should work with any wireless-G router... i.e., as long as you get the adapter working with the TiVo itself, it should work with the router no problem.

Once you get it home after guided setup has been run, you should just be able to set up your router, plug in your adapter, and go. You'll also probably want to at least enable WEP on the router, to give your wireless network some security.

Drew

[Stormspace]

You certainly won't be able to do initial guided setup via wireless... You can sometimes do it via wired ethernet, but it doesn't sound like you have a wired USB ethernet adapter. Just take it to a friend's house for the initial guided setup if possible.

Any wireless-G adapter (I'm assuming you have the WG111) should work with any wireless-G router... i.e., as long as you get the adapter working with the TiVo itself, it should work with the router no problem.

Once you get it home after guided setup has been run, you should just be able to set up your router, plug in your adapter, and go. You'll also probably want to at least enable WEP on the router, to give your wireless network some security.

Drew

You'll also have to keep the tivo hooked up to the phone line until it downloads the update to allow it to work with your USB adapter. You'll know that's happened when you get a message saying a network adapter was detected. Just keep forcing updates until you get the message.

[PepperTheBoxer]

Help,

I've been trying to connect a DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter to a Humax 800 (? it's the one WITHOUT the dvd recorder) for a couple weeks now without success.

After a priority registration and reboot, three days later we now have the most recent 7.2.0-oth-01-2-590 software version. Problems however, still persist and the adaptor is not recognized. :eek:

Tivo is unable to detect the adapter. I go to the settings...network and I am asked whether i want to use the phone line or whether i want it to attempt to detect another adapter.

Humax technical service phone support (level 2?) is not available until monday.

Has anyone encountered this problem?

Thanks,
Pepper

[pldoolittle]

I'm also having problems with connecting my Tivo to my new SBC DSL service. I also have a 2Wire modem/router. I've entered the WEP password in my Tivo, and it sees the network, but everytime I try to connect, I get a "No DHCP server". Any help? I checked the settings on the modem and there are still spots available to assign, but still no luck. I have two other computers that are wireless and are connecting with no problems. Thanks!

If I'm understanding you correctly, the network hardware is "2 wire" brand. Most "2 wire" networks are a hybrid of ethernet intended to run over existing phone lines in the wall. They require that all adapters in the house be "2 wire" as they are not interoperable with ethernet.

If that is the case, I have absolutely no idea if Tivo supports your USB->2 wire adapter.

[rookie]

I have 2 TiVo's connected to my home network via wireless. Using HMO features etc... I'm considering getting a 3rd unit, the Toshiba SD-H400 with only the BASIC TiVo service...so I won't have access to HMO. This unit will be in my basement, without easy access to a phone line. QUESTION: Using a wireless adapter, can the Toshiba unit wirelessly perform the nightly calls home for TV guide updates, with BASIC TiVo? Or does Basic TiVo only support phone line connection?

[azitnay]

Yes, units on TiVo Basic can still connect via USB adapters. They just can't use the ethernet connection for anything else useful.

For more TiVo Basic info:

http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv1199.htm

Drew

[aine]

Is it me, or did the list of supported adapters just get updated in the last day or two? All five (5) wireless adapters listed are now 802.11g. Previously, there were (I think) only two 802.11g, with the rest being 802.11b.

[azitnay]

Looks like someone at TiVo made a mistake on:

http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2006.htm

The DWL-120, DWL-122, and WUSB12 are definitely 802.11b, as the following page still correctly indicates:

http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2184.htm?

Drew

[rookie]

Thanks azitnay.

[login4k]

Thank you for the information. I just wanted to provide an update that you are supposed to be able to use a wireless adapter to complete Guided Setup with system software version 7.2 and later. This is a good news for those of us who got rid of traditional land lines.

[ritraf]

I have a Tivo Series 2 140 hour Tivo, A Negear MR814v2 Negear wireless router and a linksys WUSB 11 v2.8 wireless adapter. The problem occured after I had just gotten my router to work so that TiVo can go through a full normal connection after phone setups, which then downloaded the latest software update (7.2). when rebooted to install update, tivo no longer can connect via my wireless router. For full disclosure, TiVo cust. support rep. also had me turn on my router's "DMZ" feature at the same time. in either case of the DMZ feature being turned on or off on my router software, tivo still can't connect. the error message after being hung up on 'connecting, setting up clock' is always the following:

"Your network adapter has not been set up for use with the DVR (N08)"

Linksys adapter connected to TiVo worked fine before with no indication its not functioning. However, I did change the USB port it was connected to in back of TiVo to try the other port (has 2 USB ports) which didn't change anything. I also tried manually setting a static IP address on Tivo network setup, but always back to N08 error message above.

The rep. said get a new router, preferably a Linksys. Is that what i need to do? Or is one of my other 2 pieces of equipment (linksys adapter or new TiVo) that needs to be replaced?

any help *much* appreciated. Regards,

[GordonAD]

I have 2 tivos with HMO connecting via my wireless network. The downstairs unit (farthest away from the wireless router) was working fine until very recently.

Now I consistently get no DHCP messages even though it says the signal strength is 100%. :confused:

I have tried 3 different wireless adapters (the one from the upstairs unit which works fine) and I still get the same message.

It has been about 2 weeks since I can see the downstairs unit on the network and transfer recorded shows from the upstairs, can anyone help?

Thanks,
Gordon

[ashu]

Have you switched USB ports? Tried rebooting the TiVo with it connected?

[Stormspace]

I have 2 tivos with HMO connecting via my wireless network. The downstairs unit (farthest away from the wireless router) was working fine until very recently.

Now I consistently get no DHCP messages even though it says the signal strength is 100%. :confused:

I have tried 3 different wireless adapters (the one from the upstairs unit which works fine) and I still get the same message.

It has been about 2 weeks since I can see the downstairs unit on the network and transfer recorded shows from the upstairs, can anyone help?

Thanks,
Gordon

Installed a new 2.4ghz phone? 900mhz phones work best with wireless networks if you can find them.

[ashu]

Or 5.8GHz. Although none of this is strictly and unerringly accurate ... my Uniden DCT-646-3 set (3 handsets around te home) causes no interference with belkin G and D-Link B networks :)

[reeselasvegas]

I want to go wireless but know very little about it. I currently have a series 2 300min tivo, a home phone, and broadband (roadrunner with aol)only 1 computer. I have a phone cord running through my livingroom for my tivo, which is my main reason for wanting to go wireless as well as wanting to get digital phone. ( I have limited options. I have only found one service that offers digital phone in my area, Vonage.) I don't know much about ethernet. What is the best thing for me to do? What do I need to set everything up?
Thanks,
Reese

[Mr Markus]

I received a new TiVo Series2 40hr with ver 7.2 already installed and a service number starting with 540. When going through the guided setup, I used my Linksys WUSB11 v2.8 without incident. I did have to put in lots of information since - SSID, WEP key in hex, channel? (this is from memory), etc. After that, it connected to the network just fine.

Later, Markus.

[ndanaher]

Hi All, you've helped so many in the past, so I hope you can help me :)

I live in WA and Comcast is my ISP. My computer is connected to my wireless router (Linksys BEFW11S4 Version 1.0). The internet works just fine this way. In the room next door, same floor, my Tivo is connected to my wireless adapter (Linksys WUSB11 Version 3.0). It just sits there with a solid green power light and a blinking Link light. I have a Series 2 Tivo.

I just cant seem to catch and/or keep a signal with the wireless adapter. I made it about 90% of the way through guided setup when the signal was lost. I haven't been able to get back up and running since.

Linksys is giving me the runaround that there are windows and walls in my apartment, or that the router is not within view of the adapter. I have a 700sqft apartment and the walls are paperthin... what's the point of a wireless network if the two pieces of hardware need to be in the same room!

From the Tivo website I thought I read that my adapter IS compatible. Others have told me it is NOT compatible. Can somebody help straighten out my problem. I'm so anxious to stop messing with the network and start using the darn Tivo already.

I appreciate it. Thank you :)

[juanian]

Have you checked the normal wireless issues, like cordless phones, microwaves, baby monitors and the like? Apartments are even worse than houses when it comes to interference from "unexpected" sources, because your neighbors are so close, and you have no control over what they use. (The house I am currently in didn't protect me from interference from my next-door neighbor; I'd have a perfect connection, then I wouldn't even be able to connect for minutes (or sometimes hours) at a time.) If you have cordless phones, make sure they are 900MHz (older) or 5.6GHz (newer).

You should also try using a different channel on your router to see if it helps. (I would usually try 1, 6, or 11 to start.) This will help if your interference is from something that uses a fixed channel. (Cordless phones can channel-hop to find a better frequency, which makes things much worse.)

[JetPilot]

Just got a second TiVo for xmas. Can't find a suitable USB adapter in the stores. I printed the list, and went to Fry's, Best Buy. Circuit City and MicroCenter and I could only find ONE [an SMC 2862W-G] on the list for sale. It did not work - not recognized, even thought reported as "Tested and Certified by TiVo." Couldn't find a ver# on it or the box.

None of the stores had older 802.11b units and they make up more than half the list. Most of the dozens that I looked at are later models [802.11g] or brands like AirLink, USRobotics, Hawking that are not represented at all. I bought 3 of these and took them home and tried them on my original 240 running 7.2.1 - none were recognized.

TIVO, YOU NEED TO TEST AND CERTIFY THE AVAILABLE UNITS!

I'll hate it but I may have to order the adapter from Tivo for $50 [more the the cost of the TiVo] and wait for it to arrive.. Why does it have to be so hard? Why can't Tivo qualify more current USB adapters? I paid $100 for HMO only to see it offered free, and now this. And I'm a Mac user with no TTG support. I'm really pissed. :mad:

[JeffKiel]

Yup, same here. I luckily found a Netgear one on an endcap at Best Buy...the only one they had that would work. CompUSA had nothing.

[ndanaher]

hey there, after much time spent on the phone with Linksys and years of problems with product compatibility, I decided to go ahead and just replace everything. (I have been very loyal to my router and adapter because I had spent over $300 on them years ago)

I went to best buy and bought a Netgear Wireless USB Adapter 2.0 and a Netgear - 802.11g Wireless Router. Both were on sale for $29.99 each.

I went home, installed the software for the wireless router, and followed the setup instructions on the CDROM. I plugged my adapter into the back of my box and I had my Tivo up and running in less than 15 minutes total. I am very pleased!!! Best $60 I've spent in a long time :-D

[TiVoJerry]

For those of you having troubles finding a supported adapter, we know it's been a long hard road. To that point, we've been able to announce our own TiVo-branded Wireless G adapter. This isn't a TiVo label just slapped on the side of another adapter. It was built specifically for us and work on ALL Series2 standalone platforms (even the first gen S2 units, prefix = 110, 130, & 140).

These units have full MAC chipset on them, so the workload is carried by the adapter and not pushed over to the DVR. In theory, this means many people will see an increase in performace. In the real world, there are numerous factors that may prevent any increase from being seen for certain customers.

[JetPilot]

For those of you having troubles finding a supported adapter, we know it's been a long hard road. To that point, we've been able to announce our own TiVo-branded Wireless G adapter. T

Jerry,

That's great but it still costs MORE than the TiVo. Is that fair? You are taking advantage of a situation that you have created! Maybe good business, but bad public relations. :down:

If it were priced at $25 I would say BRAVO.

[TiVoJerry]

Jerry,

That's great but it still costs MORE than the TiVo. Is that fair? You are taking advantage of a situation that you have created! Maybe good business, but bad public relations. :down:

If it were priced at $25 I would say BRAVO.

That's not really true. The base price of the 40 hour DVR is $199. The rebate that offsets the overall cost shouldn't be figured into that comparison, especially since it is eventually recuperated over time from the service subscription.

We have a supply chain (manufacturing, storage & distribution) that figure into the cost of the adapter, and we are certainly not taking advantage of the situation. This is not going to be a money-maker for us, but we do hope to see a decrease in support problems and their associated costs. At the very least, we can now assure owners of all Series2 standalone platforms that they will always be able to get a fully supported 802.11g adapter without worrying about an unannounced model revision.

I also don't think it's fair to say we created this situation. The adapter manufacturers (one of whom was even a partner at the time we started supporting network connections) are to blame for constantly changing chipsets and only keeping PC and Mac platforms in mind. Even when they do use have a linux driver, they sometimes utilize a chipset that our hardware is simply not compatible with. The only way to compensate for that is to change the hardware on the motherboard (new chipset, adding internal wireless hardware, etc) and then pass those increased costs along with every unit we manufacture, regardless of whether or not that unit will be used for a network connection...........and in my opinion, that is the wrong way to go unless it can be done without raising the cost to the customer. Most people don't like paying extra for hardware if they're not going to utilize it.

Having said all that, we certainly recognize that our current way of updating units to support newer adapters is nowhere near utopian. We will always be playing catch-up when it comes to supporting new technology. But those on the bleeding edge tend to bleed the most, and in more ways than one. We at TiVo pick our battles carefully, and we believe this is the best response to the wireless situation given all the factors. As always, any approach we decide to take will almost certainly draw a thumbs down from some people in the crowd.

[JetPilot]

So I found an adapter on the list and it does not work. Why? The list says it is
Tivo tested and certified.

SMC 2682W-G
P/N: 99-012084-449
SER#: T154316692

With it in my laptop this is the USB signature;

802.11g Wireless USB Adapter:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: 17
Product ID: 0xee22
Serial Number: 1260-EE22
Vendor ID: 0x1260

[TiVoJerry]

What SW version are you running and what is your TSN prefix? (see the columns on the adapter page)

So I found an adapter on the list and it does not work. Why? The list says it is
Tivo tested and certified.

SMC 2682W-G
P/N: 99-012084-449
SER#: T154316692

With it in my laptop this is the USB signature;

802.11g Wireless USB Adapter:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: 17
Product ID: 0xee22
Serial Number: 1260-EE22
Vendor ID: 0x1260

[TechDreamer]

Tivo created this whole network mess. Every Series 2 Tivo should have had wired ethernet. They could have replaced one of the USB ports with ethernet to help with the cost. Tivo could then have supported the use of wireless bridges and had ZERO SOFTWARE SUPPORT COSTS! The XBOX bridges are constantly going on sale somewhere dirt cheap and I've seen other bridges on sale cheap. I understand Tivo has to deal with the situation they are in now, but why didn't Tivo at least come out with their own adapter years ago?

[TiVoJerry]

Remember that partnership I mentioned in that last post? We were under the impression that this partner would play nice and stick with a supported chipset so we could have avoided the situation we're in now. After several model revisions that resulted in us having to release new software AFTER their new model hit the street, we had to come up with other options.

We looked into having someone else make one for us so we could make it to market ASAP but we could not control the product enough to guarantee no changes that would affect compatability. As such, we had to create our own. It's been much longer than we wanted, but we had to make sure it was done to OUR specifications since our needs are unique.

If you read the part where I mentioned the cost of adding hardware to all of our units, when only a percentage of them would use the network connection, you'll see why an ethernet port has not been practical to include in the past. That said, it is certainly something we are looking at for the future........but remember that part about not being on the bleeding edge (see previous post)?

Everyone seems to want all the latest and greatest features but get upset when there's an additional cost passed on to them (see thumbs down post from JetPilot). I guess it's true that you can't please all the people all of the time, no matter how hard you try.

I'm gonna blame it on Al Gore since he created the whole internet. :rolleyes:

[JetPilot]

Everyone seems to want all the latest and greatest features but get upset when there's an additional cost passed on to them (see thumbs down post from JetPilot). I guess it's true that you can't please all the people all of the time, no matter how hard you try.

Jerry,

I don't mind some added cost but I paid $100 for HMO and now its free. Likewise, I'll pay $25 happily but not $49.99. If the net cost of a TiVo can be $50 or less [I paid $158.15 and expect a $150 rebate] then why should I bear the full true cost of the USB adapter. Surely that is not your cost. Everyone knows the profit is in the service subscription, not the hardware. ;)

If you want to please me, get the Mac software working. :D

[JetPilot]

Jerry,

I tried this on my old 240-. It's current TiVo system: 7.2.1-oth-01-2-140

I unplugged the Netgear MA101 and tried the SMC. It was not recognized.

I did not try the new 540- yet as I assumed it has older system software. I didn't want to open the box until I was sure I wanted to keep it. :eek:

[juanian]

SMC? I'd never buy another SMC product after what I had to go through to add an SMC Ethernet card to a PC years ago. They required a user to manually overwrite a Windows .inf file with their own .inf file -- a bad way to do things. Worse, (at the time) the card wasn't that cheap, and if I would have known what would need to be done to install it, I never would have purchased it. (Remember, your mileage may vary.)

[classicsat]

hey there, after much time spent on the phone with Linksys and years of problems with product compatibility, I decided to go ahead and just replace everything. (I have been very loyal to my router and adapter because I had spent over $300 on them years ago)

I went to best buy and bought a Netgear Wireless USB Adapter 2.0 and a Netgear - 802.11g Wireless Router. Both were on sale for $29.99 each.


Unless I am missing something, you didn;t have to go buy a new router, just an adapter for the TiVo.

[mdblank]

I just got my TiVo this past week. I tried to find the wireless adapters listed but could only find one. I did find the NetNETGEAR WG111 but it did not work. On the box it had a small v2 by the name so I bet it is a new version and that is why it did not work. I ordered the TiVo one and just ran a very long cord from my phone jack to my TiVo

[DocNo]

I found a g solution that is currently backward compatible to TIVO.

Belkin F5D7230-4 802.11g router
Netgear WG111NA (not MA111 or WG111RV) usb adapter

Works well, and it will work at g rates if TIVO ever gets there.

Not only is it a guaranteed way to work, it's the only way to get WPA - which, unlike WEP is at least securable (https://www.grc.com/pass).

[scotttetrick]

What SW version are you running and what is your TSN prefix? (see the columns on the adapter page)
I have the same issue and problem. Version 540, already with 7.2.1 software, and it doesn't recognize the SMC2862W-G (from the TIVO tested list)! It would really be nice to have the G speeds.

[JetPilot]

Scotte,

I'm not sure a G adapter would be any faster. I think the USB 1 is the bottleneck.

The SMC adapter needs an update from Tivo to be useful.

[zzzoom6]

the following is basically what i've posted in another thread relating to my probs getting tivo up and running for my parents. i am copying this here because i think this thread gets more traffic and may lead to a quicker solution since i have to go back home (3 hour drive) on Sunday. Sorry for the length and to those who have already read the thread "HELP - need to rescue parents' tivo". thanks to all that have responded and will respond!!!

I've been searching over the last week trying to find the answers I need to get my parents' TIVO up and running. Today, I will be driving 6 hours round trip to see if I can get a wireless network up and running so that they can download the program guide info. They activated their service with a lifetime agreement 25 days ago, so this is the last chance to get this working before they have can cancel their subscription if a solution is not found.

A little about their system... They have a series 2 Tivo with the model tcd540080. Their home has VOiP through a local cable company called Millineum (it is hooked up so all phone outlets that were already in the house prior to VOiP are live); tv programming is also through this company, though they do not have digital cable, just basic. Broadband is of the cable variety, also through Millineum. The computer they own is relatively old (runs on OS ME, not XP) and is located about 50 yards away from the room with the tivo (3 walls separate the computer f/ the tivo). On initial setup, we hooked up the tivo to the neighbors phone to get the latest software update (it is running 7.2.1 now). It worked great for a couple days, but it's program guide is now empty so it won't let it record off of the guide.

I'm now at my parents' house and we've been trying to get this sorted out for the last few hours without success. So far we have got the wireless network working (we tested the network with one of their laptops and it is receiving signals from the router). However, we cannot get the $#@@!@# tivo to recognize any of the network adaptors that we have tried. Yes, I have tried more than one! I went to Best Buy and CompUSA and bought three different ones.

the first one is the D-Link DWL-G122 (this one is on the list of models that the tivo site says should work).
the linksys wusb54g is another model.
and the last one we tried was the netgear wg111 v2 with a serial # that starts with 165.

i've tried restarting the tivo between changing network adaptors. i've tried unplugging the tivo and waiting a minute before plugging them in then adding power to the tivo. i've tried tapping my head while scratching my left elbow while singing the national anthem.

one other piece of info that may be of importance is that my parents' desktop does not have an ethernet plug. instead it used a usb plug from the cable modem. personally i did not think that this would matter...we just hooked up an ethernet cable from the VOiP box to the router and the wireless network was working. but we thought that maybe it was important for the computer to be hooked up directly from the router (maybe to download drivers or what have you) so we hooked up the laptop to the router, but still no luck. I'm about at my wits end here; i was about to make a sacrifice to the tivo gods, but my parents talked me out of it... anyone have any better ideas? and thanks again for your help...


When I went into Best Buy, I brought my tivo approved adaptor list with me so I had a pretty good idea that the linksys one would not work (but since one of the routers my parents bought was a linsys, i thought that a similar brand might have a better chance). The netgear model was listed with a thumbs up but with a note saying only models that started with 165 (and a couple others) which the one i bought did. the d-link dwl-g122 is also on the list but there is one ok'd and one not depending on the version. unfortunately, the box, unit, or cd/instructions don't identify what i have.

as far as the lights are concerned... the netgear light does not come on when plugged into the tivo or laptop. but when plugged into the laptop, we can get the internet. even when we are 5 feet away from the tivo. so i know it's not a reception issue. same thing with the d-link. no lights, but laptop connects. i am willing to consider that these network adaptors are faulty, but does the fact that the laptop is getting a stronger signal with the usb adaptors than without make sense (i should mention that the dell laptop is wi-fi ready; it's just when we plug in the usb adaptors, the signal gets much stronger) i think next time i get my parents a gift, it will be a stuffed animal.

i have been reading a thread where some have suggested tweaking some settings in the control panel of their pc to make things work. at this point i'm willing to do most anything... I JUST WANT MY DAD TO BE ABLE TO WATCH THE SUPERBOWL IN 30 MINUTES!!!! (i did warn him that if he uses his tivo in this way, he won't see the wardrobe malfunctions of yesteryear....)

[megazone]

Describe the network - if the desktop is connected to the cable modem by USB, how is the wireless access point connected to the cable modem? And when you plug the adapters into the TiVo, none of them light up? The TiVo network screen doesn't show an adapter connected? Are you sure they're models on the list: http://www.tivo.com/adapters

[davezatz]

the first one is the D-Link DWL-G122 (this one is on the list of models that the tivo site says should work).
the linksys wusb54g is another model.
and the last one we tried was the netgear wg111 v2 with a serial # that starts with 165.

I don't believe any of those are supported. The DWL-122 is, not the DWL-G122. I made that same mistake several months ago. It won't help this weekend, but you might consider ordering TiVo's branded adapter which they gurantee to work (and it's very fast).

You may want to try using a regular phone cable into your VoIP set-up. I recently got another TiVo and was able to download guide data through Vonage.

[Stormspace]

TiVo has to connect several times before the wireless network software is loaded. You need to get back to the phone line and force several connections until you get a message saying that the adapter was found. For me it took three connections.

[davezatz]

The poster did mention he was running 7.2.1 now... he needs a supported adapter. TiVo's list seems to get shorter and shorter. It would be nice if they could work something out with Best Buy to sell their adapters instore.

[Stormspace]

The poster did mention he was running 7.2.1 now... he needs a supported adapter. TiVo's list seems to get shorter and shorter. It would be nice if they could work something out with Best Buy to sell their adapters instore.

That would really suck if one of my adapters quit after working for two years +.

[bostlaw]

At least you have more time for the Super Bowl....

[zzzoom6]

well thanks for your input. i think that since the lights on the network adaptors were not coming on, i think i f'd something up somewhere. never tried to put a network together let alone getting one to work with tivo was a bit too much to try. i guess now, i just need to find a network adaptor that is on the list. i think i saw one on newegg, but the one that they have has several versions available but the newegg site does not specify which one will be shipped. based on comments on users who have bought that model on that site, some were buying the product in the hope that they got one of the right models. some did, some did not get the right model. so it's a gamble. but i've tried 5 big box stores and found nothing. tivo says that theirs will be available in march. my dad said that he was going to try to get something working, but unless he has the right hardware, i'm afraid he's going to try to hire someone but not get any results.

as to megazone's comments: i assume the wireless access point is the router? sorry for asking what is probably really basic, but i don't know. anyway, the VOiP box has a ethernet connection and a usb port. the usb port goes to the desktop, while the ethernet connection (if i remember correctly it is labeled WAP on the VOiP box) goes to the router. As it turned out, none of the 3 network adaptors were on the list. the versions were wrong or the model just wasn't supported.

so some have mentioned getting an external modem and hooking the VOiP to it and trying to get that to get the downloaded data. problem is, the phone connection nearest to the tivo keeps losing its signal. so i think there is a problem with that phone jack. none of the other phones in the house are having problems like that phone. so that leaves me to consider a hard wired network which would mean running a long cable (about 30 feet in the crawlspace - assuming their house has a crawlspace) and drilling through the floor in two places. my dad already said that he definitely does not like that idea, but i don't know what else to do.

having a dvr myself, i love how they change tv viewing. the idea of not being tied to the schedules of the networks with the added bonus of skipping through commercials is so liberating. i know my parents love it when the come over to my house so it seemed like such a great idea to get them one also. as it is now, they can't bring up a guide and they cannot record any programs. they can only mess around with live tv, but that is like a third of what tivo can do. so if any of you have any other ideas, i would be extremely appreciative.

[antalo]

I don't believe any of those are supported. The DWL-122 is, not the DWL-G122. I made that same mistake several months ago. It won't help this weekend, but you might consider ordering TiVo's branded adapter which they gurantee to work (and it's very fast).

You may want to try using a regular phone cable into your VoIP set-up. I recently got another TiVo and was able to download guide data through Vonage.


The Tivos don't work with G ty pe (54 MC) sometimes they do, most of time they don't. The 11 MC (b) are fast enough anyway.
antalo

[alansplace]

In the end I never did get my 2.6 EUSB11 to work even with a Linksys router on teh backend and numerous config chanegs. I went out and purchased a wireless ethernet bridge and teh Linksys USB200m wired adapter linked the two together and had 802.11g 54Mbps in a bout 1 minute afterwards. This was definately the best option for me and works great even when streaming from my tivo to my PC. I recommend this route to anyone. If ya need help let me know

WC
i bought a linksys wet54g wireless bridge and a linksys usb200m and did the same as you with the same success. later i went one step farther by adding a second series 2 tivo equipped with a usb200m at the same location by plugging that same wireless bridge into a 4 port switching hub (creating, in effect, a wireless hub) and then plugging both tivo's into the hub.

[alansplace]

Now that Linksys has USB Adapters that support Wireless G, any
ideas when Tivo will support G. The transfer time from one
unit to another is very slow.
i originally used the d-link 802.11b adapter that tivo was selling on the website. immediately i also concluded that 802.11b was way too slow for this purpose. so i bought a linksys wet54g wireless bridge (this was before the 'TiVo Wireless G USB Network Adapter' was introduced) and a linksys usb200m and had 802.11g working on my setup. in fact i later went one step further by adding a second series 2 tivo equipped with a usb200m at the same location by plugging that same wireless bridge into a 4 port switching hub (creating, in effect, a wireless hub) and then plugging both tivo's into the hub.

[murrayjohnmomo]

Has anyone tried any newer D-Link usb wireless adapters....I am interested in the DWL-G132, but can't find it on the approved list, or in any of the threads. I'm guessing that because it is a G I'm going to run into problems....

[classicsat]

Its not becasue it is a G, it is becasue of the chipset inside. Now, you could buy the adapter and luck out and find it has a supported chipset.

[furrier]

I am not a regular poster on these forums, but I wanted to share my success story for those setting up wireless for your Tivos, especially for those who want to transfer shows between Tivos or between your PC and your Tivo.

Please understand that my success story involves WEP security, but I am not concerned at all about security on my particular network. For those of you who aren't concerned either, read on.

Executive summary: Buy the Tivo-branded wireless adapters. They make a HUGE difference.

Longer summary: I have fought with trying to get reliable wireless transfers between my Tivos for a long time. Finally, having gone through various brands of Netgear, Linksys and Belkin adapters, and never being able to transfer in real time, I decided to go ahead and buy a pair of the Tivo wireless adapters.

As soon as I connected them and reconfigured the network, my transfers between Tivos and my PC are moving about 30% faster than real-time for Best Quality, and almost 50% faster than real-time for High Quality.

Also, please note that pairing these adapters with an 802.11b router does not work well. The transfer improvements were minimal. But when paired with an 802.11g router, the speeds are through the roof.

If you are deseparately trying to get the wireless solution to work, my advice is to pay a bit of a premium (about $49.95 each) for the Tivo branded adapters. Couple them with a wireless G router and you're set.

Of course, if you are obsessed with your wireless security and the whole WEP/WPA issue, then you may not want to do this, but that's more of an individual issue I guess.

[lrecoma]

well I have a updat for the folks on here I am using a Series 2 tivo (with the latest software) with the linksys B wireless game adapter actually I have a 4 port switch connected to it so I have the TIvo and my ps2 running through the adapter and they both connect to the home network as well as the net. Not sure if anyone is running this setup but it does work ( for now atleast). I know its just B speed but I dont seem to get any lag. I dont have WEP turned on I just use MAC address filtering ( its faster) and I am connected into a Linksys G wireless router with the updated 5 db gain antennas.

[Lupus]

I got the package that had the Tivo, 1 year sub, and a wireless adapter and it of course worked perfectly (since it was the adapter that comes from Tivo). I of course had to change to WEP security which I was not thrilled about, but since there are a couple unsecured networks in my area my guess is that people would likely use them rather than bothering with one with even a weak security like WEP.

I also found that a phone line is no longer needed for the initial setup. I just hooked it up to my network, and it was able to do all the setup stuff through the network without worrying with a phone line.

[TiVoStephen]

Just as a reminder, this article is out of date -- as I edited the first post to say about a year ago! Since then we've added Dual-Tuner units with built-in Ethernet, and most of the adapters mentioned are hard to find. I'll edit the article again.

[pdxjim]

I upgraded the past two weeks to Comcast and installed a Linksys router. I then discovered my old wifi plug no longer worked. Got the Tivo USB type with the flip up antenna. Well, it shows as "poor" the signal strength and have been unable to download new data. I can use my laptop in the same are and the wifi shows a "strong" signal. Any suggestions? TIA

[megazone]

What Linksys router did you get? If it is one of the WRT54G family, especially WRT54GL, then you may be able to load 3rd party firmware instead of the factory firmware. And those often allow turning up the power, tweaking the WiFi signal, etc.

[Stormspace]

I upgraded the past two weeks to Comcast and installed a Linksys router. I then discovered my old wifi plug no longer worked. Got the Tivo USB type with the flip up antenna. Well, it shows as "poor" the signal strength and have been unable to download new data. I can use my laptop in the same are and the wifi shows a "strong" signal. Any suggestions? TIA

If you put a third party firmware upgrade on your router you could burn it out. Before doing that you can try a few free things. First, change the position of the TiVo adapter by placing it in an area that isn't blocked by AV equipment. In the past I've raised mine above the other equipment using a longer cable, or extension.

Non free thngs:
Ycan purchase hi gain antenna's for your router. These will increase the signal range of your router and improve reception and broadcast. If the first suggestion doesn't work you can also try to relocate your router to another room if your setup makes this convienent. Lastly you can use a repeater, linksys makes one that works fairly well but it's rather pricey. Interestingly they also make another product that performs the same function for almost half the price. The "repeater" only works with the latest round of "G" routers while the older device, the WAP54G works with more things and is cheaper. You can even configure the WAP54G as a wireless client and it's superior strength will often bridge the gap that a smaller wireless client can't. If you do that however you will need the usb ethernet adapter and a cable to attach to the AP.

[TechExplorer@mac]

The Apple Airport Express Base station work great with units under Ethernet.They are not listed with Tivo as tested ,but I've found them to work great either under Mac
or window platforms.They work better than all others with greater range and security features enabled standard.

[bbanks]

I am a bit frustrated trying to get a compatable adapter to work with my new Tivo series 2 DT. I purchased a Netgear tivo wireless usb adapter and installed, only to find out that it isn't on the compatability list. I returned it yesterday and along with my list of compatable adapters, purchased a D-Link DWL G122. It too was not compatable to the box.

Please advise....this is wayyyy more difficult than it should be.

Thanks,
Bob

[Stormspace]

I am a bit frustrated trying to get a compatable adapter to work with my new Tivo series 2 DT. I purchased a Netgear tivo wireless usb adapter and installed, only to find out that it isn't on the compatability list. I returned it yesterday and along with my list of compatable adapters, purchased a D-Link DWL G122. It too was not compatable to the box.

Please advise....this is wayyyy more difficult than it should be.

Thanks,
Bob

If you want to save yourself the headache and you have to have wireless g, then your best bet is the TiVo branded adapter.

[Sadara]

I am a bit frustrated trying to get a compatable adapter to work with my new Tivo series 2 DT. I purchased a Netgear tivo wireless usb adapter and installed, only to find out that it isn't on the compatability list. I returned it yesterday and along with my list of compatable adapters, purchased a D-Link DWL G122. It too was not compatable to the box.

Please advise....this is wayyyy more difficult than it should be.

Thanks,
Bob

Save yourself the headache, get the Tivo brand Wireless Adapter, yes it costs more, but it was a lot easier to get it to work.

[natashafialkov]

i am hoping this isn't a question that has been answered a hundred times and i didn't see it, but here it goes anyway...we have had our tivo for a couple of years, we have a wireless router and broadband connection, everything worked fine until i noticed today that it said it couldn't get a connection to update the schedule. the only new thing in the house is that we got vonage phone service and i am assuming that is the issue. i unplugged the phone and the stuff going into it and it still couldn't connect when i did the test connection. any ideas?

thanks so much!
natasha

[Stormspace]

i am hoping this isn't a question that has been answered a hundred times and i didn't see it, but here it goes anyway...we have had our tivo for a couple of years, we have a wireless router and broadband connection, everything worked fine until i noticed today that it said it couldn't get a connection to update the schedule. the only new thing in the house is that we got vonage phone service and i am assuming that is the issue. i unplugged the phone and the stuff going into it and it still couldn't connect when i did the test connection. any ideas?

thanks so much!
natasha

Are you using the TiVo wirelessly? Otherwise I do seem to remember there being a problem with TiVo using VOIP to dial out. Since you already have wireless in your house, if the TiVo isn't already you might want to make it wireless. You'll get the benefit of being able to use the Photos and Music features as well as the online scheduling.

[ThePhantomsGirl]

Are you trying to get the updates using the Vonage phone line? If so, that can be a VERY tricky thing. It CAN be done. You might want to do a search - for I believe there is a prefix that you put in and it may take many tries. Kind of not worth it when you have to keep doing it...

If you have wireless - it's much easier to do the updates via wireless with an adaptor. (although even that has been tricky lately with adaptors...the newer ones seem to ONLY work with the Tivo-branded one)

Holly

[daknole]

HELP!!! I have a series 2 Toshiba that stopped being updated via my phone line in late Sept. I finally gave up and am in the process of switching the Tivo unit onto our wireless network. We have a Link Sys "N" router and I have the Tivo adapter I just bought today at Best Buy. It recognizes our wireless network but it keeps saying that there is no DHCP server. I am lost at this point. What is the reason for this error message? Thanks in advance.