New channel logos [Text View] - Page 3

lcsneil

07-31-2005, 12:16 PM

Well the way I do it....

Telnet into your Tivo. (e.g. Assuming DOS window in Windows - type TELNET 192.168.0.1 - (where 192.168.0.1 is the IP address of your Tivo)

Move to the directory the file is in

So for example say it was in /var/hack you would type cd /var/hack/

Let's say you are trying to chmod file called test.tcl

type

chmod 755 test.tcl (then hit the return key)

Simple.

Of course you can always just type the full path and file name instead of moving to the directory in which case it would be:-

chmod 755 /var/hack/test.tcl

(Then type exit to get out of telnet)

Neil

6022tivo

08-02-2005, 04:02 AM

Have not really paid attention to this thread too much, but did notice most of the logo's had disapeared, except for BBC. Anyways a reboot did not fix it, but the excelent loadlogos.tcl module by Sanderton (I think) saved the day. I am thinking of running this in cron, say every week or two to keep things on track, but have noticed it really causes my tivo to stutter and struggle as I suppose it is really intensive. Is there a easy way of "slowing" it down, adding a pause in the code or something.
This is why I downgraded from TWP to TW as TWP made my tivo struggle and occasionally reboot when surfing around.

Anyways, good morning to you all.

sanderton

08-02-2005, 04:20 AM

Not an easy way; why not schedule it to run a 4am or something?

6022tivo

08-02-2005, 04:29 AM

Not an easy way; why not schedule it to run a 4am or something?

It may disturb my viewing of The Adult Channel. :eek:

hehe. No, I think I will just manually run it when I notice the problem

GarySargent

08-02-2005, 03:36 PM

Shouldn't happen for a long time now.

mrtickle

08-02-2005, 05:41 PM

Shouldn't happen for a long time now.

That's mysteriously concise ;)

GarySargent

08-02-2005, 06:39 PM

Fishy going on! :D

6022tivo

08-02-2005, 06:52 PM

Fishy going on! :D

That word has just prompted a joke...

A woman goes into a fishing tackle shop for a rod for her son. After
looking for a while she notices the shop owner is blind and asks him how he
knows the price when he can't see the label.

The blind chap assures her that if she drops the rod on the counter he will
be able to tell her what it is an the price.

She picks up one of the rods and drops it in front of him. That's a
Shakespeare 510 and it's 40 quid, he proclaims.

To test him she picks up another rod and drops it on the counter. That's a
fly fishing rod and is 80 quid, he announces.

He was right, and the woman decides to take the cheaper one of the two. As
she bends down to take out her purse she lets out an enormous fart.

The bill is presented and is 55 pounds. She says, I thought that
Shakespeare rod was only 40?

It is, he replies, but the duck call is a tenner and the fish paste is a
fiver. . . . .

GarySargent

08-02-2005, 07:03 PM

I'm sure you'll edit the joke to get the figures to add up and rods the right way around! :D

6022tivo

08-02-2005, 07:09 PM

I did, 440 for a shakespeare, 40 is more like it.. hehe don't know about £5 for fish paste.?

coderus

08-03-2005, 07:33 PM

thechachman

08-04-2005, 03:17 AM

pmk

08-04-2005, 03:40 AM

Men and Motors must be present because I am using it. It may not be exact since the rebrand etc but it seems fine to me. I do not think MM have any adult type shows on anymore. It is one of the better channels I think now I especially like the Police based shows like Motorway Patrol, Bike Cops UK etc. Filename of the logo is confusing its GMM or something so it can be missed if looking for something beginning with M. HTH.

thechachman

08-04-2005, 03:50 AM

I anticipate some spare time this evening or this weekend at which point I'll fill in the gaps and post "addon" logos for whomever wants them

pmk

08-04-2005, 06:01 AM

Not a high priority but an s2 logo for E4+1 that is different than E4 would be really useful?

TIA

coderus

08-04-2005, 06:59 AM

Yes re-looking at the logo's files again, and I find there is a Men & Motors logo, but its handle here is GMM not MM, which I have appearing. I guess they renamed it ?.

But others are I don't see.

aerialplug

08-04-2005, 07:14 AM

I installed these great logos from this thread (aerialplug_logos_7.zip), but as I'm on NTL here in suffolk. I seem to missing these logos

B4UMOV - B4U Movies
NICKRPLY - Nick Replay
NICTOON- Nick Toon UK
JTIXUK1 - Jetix (plus 1 hour)
MTVDANCE - MTV Dance
DISCHH - Discovery Home & Health
IBUY2 - iBuy TV2
JETIXUK - Jetix
MTVHITS - MTV Hits
MTVBSE - MTV Base
MM - Men & Motors

I understand that maybe Men & Motors comes in under maybe adult rating, but the others ?

Or did I missing zip file with these logo's in

MM is in the current logo set and has been there for quite some time, though it used to be called GMM in earlier distributions - they're trying to drop all references to Granada in their channels and I suspect MM may become an ITV brand at some point.

NICTOON was there but was incorrectly named NICKTOON.

Added: B4UMOV, DISCHH,, DISCHH1, E4P1, IBUY, IBY2 (same as IBUY), JETIXUK, JTIXUK1, MTVBSE, MTVHITS, NICKRPLY.

I tend not to bother with +1 channels unless people ask specifically for them but E4 +1 is a good idea.

I also struggle to find a reason why people want logos for shopping/auction channels on their TiVos - that's the sort of channel I'd never record as they're live by nature.

The new logos described above are in the attachment to this message and are now found in the latest zip file on my web site.

coderus

08-04-2005, 07:46 AM

Wow thanks for the updated icons, you rock with these :)

6022tivo

08-04-2005, 08:51 AM

I also struggle to find a reason why people want logos for shopping/auction channels on their TiVos - that's the sort of channel I'd never record as they're live by nature.

Wow, you haven't lived... This is the best way to watch these channels, as when you ring to order, they have ran out of stock, so you can't fill that cupboard marked "Used once and never again".

I am going to have to get another cupboard as the ice cream maker, pop corn maker, bread maker, edge trims for the garden, soda stream and on and on .... are starting to bulge the doors.

coderus

08-04-2005, 11:44 AM

Just one which I left off the list is missing

DISCRT Discovery Real Time

Thanks
Mark.

aerialplug

08-04-2005, 01:05 PM

Just one which I left off the list is missing

DISCRT Discovery Real Time

Thanks
Mark.

How peculiar. I distinctly remember drawing that one when the channel first launched - I had similar dejavu with Discovery Home & Health, yet they're not in the distro. Oh well - they are now.

Discovery Real Time and its +1 counterpart are now in version 7.2 that can be downloaded from the web site.

Appologies if you've had problems getting the logos in the last half hour - I moved everything to a new free web server to free up space for my disused underground stations (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/uground) web site - but I'm rapidly discovering free web servers have an aversion to large zip files and automatically delete them. Anyone point me in the direction of a good one or have some space on a server that I could put these logos?

pmk

08-04-2005, 01:30 PM

Thanks for the E4+1 logo. Not what I was expecting but hey its was free so I am not complaining :D

mrtickle

08-04-2005, 02:03 PM

Superb fast update as ever - thanks!

[edit - actually, I'm not sure about the alpha values on your E4+1 logo - it cuts through the channel banner :D]

thechachman

08-04-2005, 04:09 PM

How peculiar. I distinctly remember drawing that one when the channel first launched - I had similar dejavu with Discovery Home & Health, yet they're not in the distro. Oh well - they are now.

Discovery Real Time and its +1 counterpart are now in version 7.2 that can be downloaded from the web site.

Appologies if you've had problems getting the logos in the last half hour - I moved everything to a new free web server to free up space for my disused underground stations (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/uground) web site - but I'm rapidly discovering free web servers have an aversion to large zip files and automatically delete them. Anyone point me in the direction of a good one or have some space on a server that I could put these logos? Drop me an email more than happy to help

aerialplug

08-05-2005, 12:37 PM

[edit - actually, I'm not sure about the alpha values on your E4+1 logo - it cuts through the channel banner :D]

Oh dear, I really got sloppy on this one:o. Not only do I forget to apply the colour pallette filters on both, but I got lazy when I couldn't find an electronic version of the real E4+1 logos.

I've re-drawn both E4 and E4+1 so that the E4+1 now looks like the on-screen +1 logo - I hope this makes amends :D

I'll soon update the versions being supplied on the web site.

pmk

08-05-2005, 01:40 PM

>I've re-drawn both E4 and E4+1 so that the E4+1 now looks
>like the on-screen +1 logo - I hope this makes amends

I like these - many thanks.

The only odd thing is the E4 logo is dark gray the E4+1 logo is light gray and looks better.

edit: s2

thechachman

08-07-2005, 11:55 AM

Bored so trying to whack some together for Avago and Fashion TV, wifey would like to request ones for:

333 TRUEMOV True Movies
336 MATMOV Matinee Movies
339 BADMOV Bad Movies
468 FIZZTV FIZZ TV

aerialplug

08-09-2005, 05:36 AM

I've definitely drawn 333, 336 and 339. I drew them before TiVo even knew about the channels so this is probably why I haven't included them in a distribution - they'll be somewhere on my home PC, so I'll look for them tonight.

And yeah - the E4 logos still aren't right, having now loaded them onto my TiVo. I'll try to get them fixed in the next distro too.

aerialplug

08-09-2005, 10:43 AM

Well what do you know? The logos were on my keyring flash drive! I've got Matinee Movies, Bad Movies and Fizz TV. I can't find the True Movies logo anywhere so I haven't a clue what it looks like.

I'll reserve seinding the correctly coloured E4 logos until I've checked them tonight to save the embarassment of sending yet another pair of dud logos :o ...

thechachman

08-09-2005, 02:59 PM

here's my 1st attempt at one for Avago and for Fashion TV with an alt-s1 image for FashTV

KakenBetaal

09-13-2005, 09:42 AM

Hope someone can help - I'm getting this error:

Bash /var/hack/logos #./loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos
Initialising logo list
Initialising channel list
Processing /var/hack/logos/BBC1EAST-s1-p1.png
Detected Type 1 Palette/Size Format fro bbc1east-s1-p1.png
Overwriting Existing Image for bbc1east-s1-p1.png
Successfully Imported Image bbc1east-s1-p1.png
can't open object (errDbNotFound)

while executing
"db $db open "/LogoGroup/$lspace:$type:$type""
("uplevel" body line 11)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 5)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set img [db $db openid $imgfsid]
set name [dbobj $img get Name]
if {[regsub -- {-s1-p1$} $name {} name] == 1} {
s..."
(procedure "addLogoIndex" line 6)
invoked from within
"addLogoIndex $imgfsid $index"
(procedure "show_import" line 177)
invoked from within
"show_import $file"
("foreach" body line 3)
invoked from within
"foreach file $filelist {
puts "Processing $file"
show_import $file
}"
(file "./loadlogos.tcl" line 585)
Bash /var/hack/logos #

sanderton

09-13-2005, 09:48 AM

One of those errors all scripts suffere from from time to time; probably due to being busy.

Try it a few times, if it still won't work, reboot the Tivo, wait 10 mins and try again!

calpj

09-13-2005, 07:22 PM

Hope someone can help - I'm getting this error:
I've been getting the same error for the last couple of days, but also found I was getting "Sorry, Your Logo DataSet is Empty" messages in TivoWebPlus when looking at logos. This seemed to be the root cause of the problem.

I found my solution in the 'other place', do a search for a thread titled "Channel logo dataset empty" over there, follow those instructions, reboot and try over again.

Good luck!
Paul

KakenBetaal

09-14-2005, 03:16 AM

Thanks, Stuart, you were right. I was being a little too eager and not giving my new upgraded TiVo time to get its house in order.

Paul, cheers, saw that, but it didn't help me.

mrtickle

09-25-2005, 03:34 PM

I've lost a load of logos this morning and had to put them all back.

ITV1
Challenge +1
UKTV Gold +1
Paramount +1
Discovery Real Time +1
Men & Motors
UKTV Food +1
Discovery Home&Health +1
FX UK
Motors TV
Discovery +1
Discovery Travel & Living
British Eurosport
Discovery Civilisation
Discovery Wings (U.K.)
Animal Planet Plus 1
UKTV History +1
UKTV People
All BBC channels

Has this happened to anyone else or was it just me?

iankb

09-25-2005, 06:17 PM

Same for me. :(

kitschcamp

09-26-2005, 01:28 AM

Yup, happens from time to time. Last time was due to TiVo fiddling with their new server, IIRC.

aerialplug

09-26-2005, 05:39 AM

mrtickle

09-26-2005, 05:39 PM

Cheers chaps. Always reassuring to know it wasn't anything I'd done on my own TiVo!

Tennant

09-29-2005, 02:41 PM

Yep - as has been previously mentioned, because these logos aren't officially recognised by TiVo and they're liable to be overwritten when the database is refreshed. Thankfully this doesnt happen too often.

I've had logos disappearing recently (eg BBC1 logo no longer appearing in Now Showing list), yet in TivoWebPlus they still show correctly, is this normal behaviour for when they disappear?

Tenannt

ericd121

09-29-2005, 07:32 PM

I've had logos disappearing recently (eg BBC1 logo no longer appearing in Now Showing list), yet in TivoWebPlus they still show correctly, is this normal behaviour for when they disappear?Yup! ;)

Basically, your browser is serving the images from its cache.

Actually, having written that, I wonder if it's correct? :eek:

I do know that the images are not deleted from the Tivo, but merely have had their associations with their designated channel severed.

Maybe these associations are maintained in TiVoWeb(+)? :confused:

Tennant

09-30-2005, 05:45 AM

Yup! ;)

Basically, your browser is serving the images from its cache.

I'd cleared the browser cache to check that, it is definitely pulling the icons off the TiVo...in fact it's quite obvious from the time it takes to build the page that the icons aren't in the PC's cache.

Tennant

Benedict

10-02-2005, 04:25 AM

Try restarting TiVoWeb and I bet they disappear!

Tennant

10-02-2005, 11:42 AM

How much was that bet?

BBC1SW wasn't showing in TivoWeb before the reload and still isn't. ITV1WCY was showing before the reload but isn't now! All other logos still showing in TivoWeb.

Tennant

cwaring

10-02-2005, 06:11 PM

DAMNIT! I'm trying to be the first to do a More4 logo but can't get the file format correct :( Have attached the original file and my best effort so far.
following the instructions in this (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=1008178&highlight=format#post1008178) post which explains the crappy colours :)

SimonMallion

10-03-2005, 09:58 AM

Is there an up to date package of channel logos that I can download and use?

Edit:

Ignore this request, I have found these: http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos/logos.html Thanks Aerialplug!! :)

aerialplug

10-03-2005, 10:00 AM

The most up to date package is the one linked to in my sig file. I'll add the new Channel 4 logo to the site asap.

goodisonboy

10-04-2005, 10:27 AM

DAMNIT! I'm trying to be the first to do a More4 logo but can't get the file format correct :(

Carl,

you were never going to suceed with the shade of blue mor4 had in that logo the pallete just doesn't support it for the -s2 png

I've had a go too both with the old logo you used and the new green logo that digigude and the more4 site use.

See attached zip for both normal (in root) and the green logos (in alt). I've tried these on the tivo and they look okay (associated with guest channel until I get more4 showing up)

cwaring

10-04-2005, 10:51 AM

Thanks for those. In return, I present my version of the new 'five' logo. I didn't like the green background on the last version. That said, I think these might still be a little too big. Something to work on :)

Edited to add:

Damn! The "live guide" version is the wrong colour :( Not sure how to fix it either.

19:19 REMOVED ATTACHMENTS

goodisonboy

10-04-2005, 01:42 PM

Try this one, it looked like the pallete had extra colours added..

Note: I havent tried this one on Tivo yet, kids are watching stuff and loadlogos slows it down

To do these I simply do:

IN Paint Shop Pro

1) open the EMPTY-s2-p2.png,

2) open your source jpg /gif/png etc

3) resize it accordingly (i.e height 35 pixels)

4) Copy (CTRL-C)

5) click on titlebar of EMPTY-s2-p2.png and select paste as transparent selection

6) Save (Making sure the option non optimized palette is chose)

cwaring

10-04-2005, 02:18 PM

Thanks for that, but I managed to fix it on my own :) These work perfectly and are more in-keeping with the subtlety of the other logos; ie not as garish :D

cwaring

10-04-2005, 03:16 PM

Right. P1 seems okay, but on P2, the background pink is no longer tramsparent (Using either mine or that from goodison boy) but is shown as a dark green as you can see. Simple question... Why? Are the two palettes different. Is this clearly documented anywhere? I've had a look through this thread but can't seen anything specific.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3738/image12kt.png

mrtickle

10-04-2005, 05:41 PM

These posts and attachments are too fast to follow! But I've looked the two Carl posted in #554. Your palette is screwed IMHO. It's not enough to have the correct colours in the correct palette indices, you have to have the correct transparencies too. There is more than one way to do transparancy in a png file but the one Tivo uses is the "tRNS chunk". Your FIVE-s1-p1.png has the wrong transparency values. Your s2-p2 has no tRNS chunk at all. PSP is notorious for "tidying" a png file when it saves (ie corrupting it, rendering it useless for a TiVo logo).

To illustrate this download a nice free program called TweakPNG, and start with a pair of the TiVo's original png files. If the png files your software creates don't match the TiVo files in TweakPNG, you can use that to copy palette and/or tRNS from a good TiVo png across to yours.

From notes made a while ago, I don't know why your search didn't find this but no harm in posting it again:

The channel banner logos (*-s1-p1-*) are all centered, PNG image data,
65 x 55, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced. The "Now Playing" logos
(*-s2-p2-*) are offset 12 pixels in from the left, PNG image data, 100 x
35, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced. The offset is to make sure that
remain clear of the menu bar and right arrow when a program is
highlighted

s1-p1: (channel banner logos - 216 alpha values in tRNS chunk)

index Alpha value
0 0 (appears transparent on tivo, solid magenta in tivoweb)
1-15 255 ("cuts through" background on tivo revealing video underneath)
16-199 255 (these colours seem ok though?)
200-215 128 (these could cause problems!)
216-255 no alpha values stored; (255) displayed in tweakPNG

s2-p2: (now playing logos, really crap selection of colours :-( )
(256 alpha values in tRNS chunk)

index Alpha value
0 0 (appears transparent on tivo, solid magenta in tivoweb)
1-15 255 ("cuts through" background on tivo revealing video underneath)
16-175 255 (these colours seem ok though?)
176-255 128 (these could cause problems!)

You should therefore avoid colours 200-215 in s1-p1 and 176-255 in s2-p2 because they are semi-transparent. If you don't, or use a different palette to everything else, the last image that is painted on the screen (eg tick icons, "please wait", selection bar) will reset the colours in your image.

HTH

cwaring

10-04-2005, 06:45 PM

Thanks for that! I wouldn't have known what keywords to use to find that post. I did try 'palette', but there were lots of posts even for that one word :)

aerialplug

10-06-2005, 12:33 PM

These are my efforts - they're based on the "tab" look they've used on their web site.
I'll add them to the web distribution at some point.

aerialplug

10-06-2005, 12:34 PM

For a "how to" guide in making TiVo logos, see the link in my signature.

dribble

10-11-2005, 10:38 AM

These are my efforts - they're based on the "tab" look they've used on their web site.
I'll add them to the web distribution at some point.

Tried this logo, but it doesn't look that good on my Tivo. The black seems to break up towards the circle and let the blue background through.

Is it just me ? :confused:

Heuer

10-11-2005, 01:36 PM

Agreed - it does not look too good on my system either. What is supposed to be in the black box?

Obviously I could not even get close to designing these logos so please regard it as feedback not criticism aerialplug. Your logos are amazing!

ericd121

10-11-2005, 01:45 PM

Agreed - it does not look too good on my system either. What is supposed to be in the black box? If you look at it in TiVoWeb, the black box is supposed to be, err, black, but then, so is the background behind the actual logo.

I, too, would like to take the opportunity to pour praise upon aerialplug and the others who have worked on this attractive, and most useful, hack.

These logos add greatly to the TiVo GUI, and I find them invaluable in helping me locate suitable radio progs to listen to while I eat me tea!

cwaring

10-11-2005, 05:12 PM

Seconded. It looks so much better when all the programmes have channel idents by them.

aerialplug

10-12-2005, 11:25 AM

Oops, sorry. My fault :o - I corrupted the pallette before saving the file. Here they are again along with a more minimalistic alternative, in keeping with the other Channel 4 logos on the system. This is the one I'll probably be using, though both will be available in the zip file.

I'm hoping to incorporate these into the zip file soon.

mrtickle

10-12-2005, 03:44 PM

Top stuff again sir. You've surely done More 4 the UK TiVo logos effort than anyone else :D

ericd121

10-13-2005, 12:21 PM

...corrupted the pallette before saving the file. Here...again along with a more minimalistic alternative, in keeping with the other Channel 4 logosI like the white version, but the black version appears, to me, to have the same corrupted pallette.

I transferred using FTP and got the "Do you want to replace dis with dat?" dialog.

Are you sure you gave us the new versions? :confused:

Fozzie

10-13-2005, 12:49 PM

"dis with dat"??

cwaring

10-13-2005, 01:09 PM

I transferred using FTP and got the "Do you want to replace dis with dat?" dialog.
If you loaded the previous (corrupted) versions of the More4 logos, these will replace them. Don't forget that they're the same filenames; hence the question :)

"dis with dat"??
Oh, come on, Foz. :) What dialog box do you see if you try to over-write on file with another with the same name?

ericd121

10-13-2005, 02:27 PM

Oh, come on, Foz. :) What dialog box do you see if you try to over-write on file with another with the same name?He's obviously not using Fozzie Logic... :p

Well, does everyone else see the corrupted pallette images, or have the new versions fixed it for you?

aerialplug

10-14-2005, 04:47 AM

I've checked again - the pallettes look OK on the last zip file. There is the issue of cached images on PCs and of course having to reboot TiVo to ensure the logos are updated.

I must admit I've never uploaded the ones with black backgrounds onto my TiVo - I use the white ones with clear background.

As an aside - I've never been a fan of onscreen logos but the one currently used by More 4 is peticularly annoying - muddy water comes to mind...

cwaring

10-14-2005, 05:31 AM

He's obviously not using Fozzie Logic... :p
Now *that* was funny :D

Well, does everyone else see the corrupted pallette images, or have the new versions fixed it for you?
I will only be recording The West Wing on More4 and that's not on until tonight. Oh, plus I haven't rebooted my Tivo yet for the logos to be used. Might do that later on today.

aerialplug

10-28-2005, 08:03 PM

Looks like TiVo are harassng us again with another logo reset - not as bad as last time, but this time I had to reload all BBC Radio channels, UK* TV channels and Channel 5...

cwaring

10-29-2005, 04:22 AM

Strange. I only seem to have lost LivingTV (plus variants).

mrtickle

10-29-2005, 06:18 AM

Perhaps it depends on your specific fsids / lineup / order you created new logos / etc.
I've lost the M&M logo and the BBC radio ones.

aerialplug

10-30-2005, 07:53 AM

They went in 2 stages this time - on Thursday night I noticed that Five had gone (possibly with others, but I didn't check). The on Friday, many more disappeared, needing a full reload.

Never mind - here are a new logo pair in anticiaption (and I intend to update the zip file iminently with the new logos that have appeares since the last build).

cwaring

10-30-2005, 08:58 AM

Great! All I need now is for Telewest to say they've got the channel and I'm laughing :rolleyes::)

Incidently, here's my new improved BBCN24 NP logo. I just thought that the digits on the other one looked a little out of proportion. I haven't changed the size of anything, just moved them around a bit :)

mccg

10-31-2005, 06:11 AM

Wanted: TiVo Logos for sky tuo (two), tnrcc (three)...

See here for samples:
http://www.media247.co.uk/skydigital/newsarchive/2005/10/sky_three_logos.php

smiffy

10-31-2005, 06:13 AM

I bet we have Tivo Web logo before the en dof today!!

aerialplug

10-31-2005, 06:51 AM

I'll roll the Sky Tuo and Thrcc logos lunch time and post them here. Can't do them now as we've got the Director Genereal of the BBC turning up to see some of the work we've been doing this afternoon and things are understanably a picture of organised chaos at the moment!

aerialplug

10-31-2005, 08:25 AM

Here we go - Sky Two and Sky Three. These are completely untested as my PC at home has crashed so the link to TiVo is down and I can't test upload them to TiVo until tonight, so if anyone gets a chance to load them up before 7pm tonight, comments would be good.

I've currently gone for the same look as I have with Sky One - transparent background. They look a little odd on TiVoweb as they've been designed to look good on a blue background (as they will be on screen). Other logos I've rolled before now have this strange blue fringe - but they look fine on the telly.

Also,

Does anyone know if SKY|MIX's season passes will automatically transfer to Sky Two?

mccg

10-31-2005, 09:16 AM

Thanks aerialplug... hope the meeting with the DG went OK!

They look great here.

The Obo

10-31-2005, 09:34 AM

Thanks - they look great!!

Is there any way through TivoWeb to add the new Sky3 channel to the "Channels you Receive"?
I have it in the Channel Guide - in the "All" section - how do I get it into the "Watch" section??

And while I'm at it - is there any way to alter your list of Favourites?

These are about the only two things I still have to use the Tivo interface for.... unless I am missing a link somehwere? (or an addin to do it)

ozsat

10-31-2005, 09:56 AM

Does anyone know if SKY|MIX's season passes will automatically transfer to Sky Two?It is the same channel on TiVo - so it was renamed (and has already happened).

smiffy

10-31-2005, 10:04 AM

Superb...

aerialplug

11-02-2005, 09:32 AM

The new version of the logos files are now available.

I've made several changes. There's now a separate zip file for Freeview. Since many of the logos are superficial for freeview users, there's no point downloading them. Plus, some of the channels needed their callsigns changed - the Freeview zip file should (hopefully) list all the correct call signs.

Also, I've added a few of the channels that have appeared since the last distribution - More 4, ITV4 Sky 2, Sky 3.

I know a few have been waiting for this distro to arrive since the recent logo blankings - well here they are!

One other important change - the location. The new logos can be found at http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos. The link at the bottom of my page will redirect you there now - I can't change it because of the stupidly low character limit that's been imposed on .sig files.

Any comments are always welcome, especially on the Freeview distro as I haven't been able to test that. I'm sure I've goofed something up somewhere!

kitschcamp

11-02-2005, 09:36 AM

When it says Sept 2 2005 on the website, it *does* mean November 2nd. Just downloaded the zip and checked ;)

mrtickle

11-02-2005, 09:47 AM

The new version of the logos files are now available.
[...]
Any comments are always welcome, especially on the Freeview distro as I haven't been able to test that. I'm sure I've goofed something up somewhere!

Thanks very much indeed!

One tiny thing - your website says "Release 8.0 (September 2nd 2005)" and it's now November :D

[edit: curses, beaten to it!]

aerialplug

11-02-2005, 09:59 AM

Oops - the date's a throwback from the previous version - I'll change it.

lcsneil

11-02-2005, 01:35 PM

Freeview feedback...

No logos for :-

Men & Motors (channel 38)
Sky Sports news (channel 83)
BBC Five Live Sport X (channel 706)
SmoothFM 102.2 (channel 718)
3C Continous Cool Country

Also the E4 symbol looks extremenly 'green' on the Sky platform. (The white in Living is fine)

Neil

aerialplug

11-03-2005, 05:25 AM

I don't know where Men & Motors went - I definitely used to have that one in the pack (does M&M have a future now that ITV4 has launched?). 3C used to be there too.

E4 is an old design where the palette was corrupted - I'll fix this when I get a chance and put it in release 8.1.

aerialplug

11-03-2005, 06:20 AM

Above request for changes and new logos now made.

The changes made are outlined on http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos along with the new zip files.

mrtickle

11-03-2005, 09:51 AM

(does M&M have a future now that ITV4 has launched?)

Definitely! Capacity is only an issue on the Freeview platform. ITV4 isn't a replacement channel for M&M in the same way that BBC Choice became BBC 3, for example.

aerialplug

11-03-2005, 12:43 PM

Definitely! Capacity is only an issue on the Freeview platform. ITV4 isn't a replacement channel for M&M in the same way that BBC Choice became BBC 3, for example.

I guessed as much, but there's also a precident of a channel replacing another one - by the same company. Granada+ disappeared the same day as ITV3 appeared despite having listings in magazines for weeks after it closed.

thechachman

11-03-2005, 02:16 PM

Above request for changes and new logos now made. The changes made are outlined on http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos along with the new zip files. :up: Many thanks, as always ... looks like you moved out of my space as it were eh? ;)

etrigan

11-03-2005, 02:16 PM

There's a few other mistakes in the 8.0 icon set: here's the ones I've spotted

LIFE set needs renamed to LIFETV
LIFE2 set needs removed, it's redundant
TRAV2 set needs renamed to TRAVP1
MORE4P1 set needs cloned off MORE4
UKTVP1 set needs cloned off UKTVPPL

Attached is a zipfile containing the above, except the deletion obviously :) Use as you will.

etrigan

11-03-2005, 02:19 PM

Whoops - slight mistake in my updates.zip there. Rename UKP1L-s1-p1 to UKP1-s1-p1 before use.

etrigan

11-03-2005, 02:22 PM

Oh, and FXPLUS needs cloned off FKUK

Ignore my last zip file, here's a corrected one.

wonderboy

11-03-2005, 03:59 PM

Great stuff again.

ITV1GRMP needs changed to ITVGMP, although very few people probably need grampian!

:rolleyes:

ncjok

11-20-2005, 06:13 PM

Using v8.1 of the Sky logos with loadlogos v1.1. Great work aerialplug and sanderton, thank you very much :up:

mrtickle

11-23-2005, 01:17 PM

A recent guide data update by TiVo seems to have wiped my Five logo :rolleyes:

aerialplug

11-24-2005, 06:40 AM

Yup - same here. This has been the forewaring of a much larger wiping on a Friday in the past...

ericd121

11-24-2005, 11:53 AM

Yup - same here. This has been the forewaring of a much larger wiping on a Friday in the past...Oh, bugger, not again! :down:

Can't we make the files read-only? :confused:

aerialplug

11-24-2005, 12:03 PM

I think I'm spotting a pattern in this. The last two times it happened were the last Friday in the month (September & October) - and it seems to be happening this month too. Last month and I'm pretty sure the month before, a few (most noteably Five) went on the Wednesday download. Then on the Friday, most of the others followed suit.

What are the odds on the logos disappearing on Friday/Saturday eh?

2-1 probably would be quite a risk for the bookies with this pattern seeming to emerge.

ericd121

11-24-2005, 01:52 PM

I'd like to thank everyone for not pointing out that whether the files are read-only or not is irrelevant, as the files are not written to, but rather, 'ignored' when we lose our logos. :) :rolleyes:

6022tivo

11-27-2005, 11:15 AM

Maybe off topic, but currently installing the sync between two tivo's. And instructions are to assign a logo to channel 1000, so a remote program looks nice with a logo in now playing.

I have always used Sandertons loadlogos, but this is to be done manually using the tivoweb logo's module.

Problem is when I click on the logo's icon in tivoweb, I get the message "Sorry, Your Logo DataSet is Empty " and I can not do any more???.

Any advice to fix this please?

6022tivo

11-27-2005, 11:18 AM

Quick Update, as I did a clear and delete everthing on this tivo yesterday, I thought I would try loadlogs.tcl to re assign. Got the error as below.

bash-2.02#
bash-2.02# loadlogos.tcl logos
Initialising logo list
Initialising channel list
Processing logos/3C-s1-p1.png
Detected Type 1 Palette/Size Format fro 3c-s1-p1.png
Successfully Imported Image 3c-s1-p1.png
can't open object (errDbNotFound)

while executing
"db $db open "/LogoGroup/$lspace:$type:$type""
("uplevel" body line 11)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 5)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set img [db $db openid $imgfsid]
set name [dbobj $img get Name]
if {[regsub -- {-s1-p1$} $name {} name] == 1} {
s..."
(procedure "addLogoIndex" line 6)
invoked from within
"addLogoIndex $imgfsid $index"
(procedure "show_import" line 177)
invoked from within
"show_import $file"
("foreach" body line 3)
invoked from within
"foreach file $filelist {
puts "Processing $file"
show_import $file
}"
(file "/var/hack/loadlogos.tcl" line 585)
bash-2.02#
bash-2.02#

CirenTivo

11-28-2005, 03:15 AM

I had this problem.

I found that if you issue the cd / command first to get you back to the root directory it works fine.

BTW Does anybody have the Sky Sports channel Logos. They seem to have vanished from my tivo and I can't locate them anywhere

aerialplug

11-28-2005, 06:05 AM

I think Sky Sports was part of the original TiVo logo set, so I never bothered designing any for these channels mainly because I never watched them myself. If there's a need though, I could roll a few up.

CirenTivo

11-28-2005, 02:53 PM

They were, but due to an upgraded disk. No original Tivo logos came through when the upgrade was done.

aerialplug

11-29-2005, 06:12 PM

I figured the generic "Sky Sports" logo wasn't specific enough. I've now created individual logos for Sky Sports 1,2,3,4, News and Xtra. Unfortunately I left the USB fob they're on at work - I'll hopefully upload them romorrow!

CirenTivo

12-02-2005, 10:23 AM

aerialplug

12-02-2005, 04:42 PM

CirenTivo

12-02-2005, 07:49 PM

Here they are - sorry for the delay in getting them online - been rather busy lately, along with memory fatigue!

I haven't tested them myself - like I said I don't watch any Sky Sports channels but if someone who does could install them and let me know if there are any problems that would be great.

I'll get them onto the main download in the next few days along with a few others (and some +1 channel logo duplicates).

I have uploaded the three Sky Sports Channel logos for Sky sports 1,2 & 3

Sky Sports News logo whichever one I choose overwrites the existing one
eg skyspx-s1-p1 overwrites skyspx-s2-p2

And sky Sports Extra logos might be named wrong error reads
suffix s1-p1 does not match detected type 2
suffix s2-p2 does not match detected type 1

many thanks for your efforts.

darrin2101

12-19-2005, 12:46 PM

Hi Aerialplug,

Is there a More4+1 logo in the pipeline?

aerialplug

12-19-2005, 12:55 PM

There indeed is - I just haven't had the chance yet. Tonight probably. I saw it appear on TiVo over the weekend. It's about time I bundled the sports channels into a distribution as well.

Jon DRAPER

12-21-2005, 04:53 AM

Does anyone know where I can get logos for - Wine TV, True Movies or Bonanza (avilable on the Sky platform)???

aerialplug

12-21-2005, 05:54 AM

I started working on Wine TV a while ago but it's got so much detail in it that it looked a mess when reduced to the size needed to display on screen. When True Movies came out (and indeed for quite some time after) I couldn't find any representations of the logo online so gave up. As to Bonanza, I haven't had a go at this one.

I may have a go at these three in the next day or so - probably I'll have to simplify the Wine TV logo.

Last time I looked, none of these channels were supported with tribune data though so the only way to make a recording would be a manual time based recording.

Automan

12-28-2005, 01:19 PM

All of you gurus I'm sure added your Tivoweb interfaces the hard way...
I myself being idle got my latest drives pre-configured and thus have had little experince trying to access the boxes directly.

Thus in this whole thread I have not found out the steps from the telnet prompt to upload aerialplugs wonderful logos with sandertons script.

I assume a tempoary folder has to be created on the tivo and all the image files copied in and then the script called on to import them.

Are the actual steps required listed anywhere or can anyone help?

Many Thanks

Automan.

mbriody

12-28-2005, 02:06 PM

I ftp the logos to /var/hack/logos and the loadlogos.tcl file to /var/hack

Then simply telnet and type:

/var/hack/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos
reboot

Thats it.

All of you gurus I'm sure added your Tivoweb interfaces the hard way...
I myself being idle got my latest drives pre-configured and thus have had little experince trying to access the boxes directly.

Thus in this whole thread I have not found out the steps from the telnet prompt to upload aerialplugs wonderful logos with sandertons script.

I assume a tempoary folder has to be created on the tivo and all the image files copied in and then the script called on to import them.

Are the actual steps required listed anywhere or can anyone help?

Many Thanks

Automan.

ericd121

12-28-2005, 02:30 PM

Once you've done that, you can add individual logos using the Import Logos link on the Logos page in TiVoWeb.

(Psst - My TiVoWeb arrived on a pre-configured drive, too :p )

Automan

12-28-2005, 03:54 PM

Via telnet I did manage to make the logos folder but could not find any easy put util etc to upload files.

Thus I used smartftp which worked okay but seemed very slow to upload logos - 6 mins per tivo box.

Rebooted one (others recording) which works okay except came up with BBC1WEST rather than south (okay after selecting BBC2 then back to 1).

Also only one sky cinema channel had a logo so used tivoweb to assign the one from the other.

No filmfour logos or FX Plus 1 but I suspect they are in this thread somewhere :)

Many thanks

Automan.

Benedict

01-05-2006, 08:34 AM

Gavin

01-08-2006, 05:41 AM

My logo's vanished some time overnight yesterday or today, no big deal it happens. Went to use the Auto Assosiate in tivoweb and it crashed the tivo web module (ist time it rebooted Tivo, 2nd time I had to reboot it to make it work.

Manually reassosiated them but if anyone else see't the problem there may be somethign afoot.

Added: And Please don't think I'm in greatful, I'm not I'm really glad someones make the logo's but can we get a Thomas Cook and a More 4 + one logo please...

lcsneil

01-08-2006, 06:11 AM

Yep I had the same problem about 3 days ago. 90% of the logos disappeared. D/L the latest version (8.1) of the logos and when trying to autoassociate them in TW it kept re-booting the Tivo (every time).

In the end I had to use the /var/hack/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos at the bash prompt.

All OK again now though.

Neil

steveroe

01-09-2006, 09:28 AM

New ITV logos on the way - following the same design as the current ITV4 one.

I've just seen a poster on the side of a bus shelter with the new ITV1 logo on it. Swap the ITV4 "green" for "yellow" and swap the "4" for a "1" and there you have it.

Guessing that ITV2 and ITV3 will be similar, maybe using blue and red.

For the clever image manipulators to work from:

http://195.50.94.249/skydigital/newsarchive/images/itv_newlogos001.jpg

Stolen from here (http://195.50.94.249/skydigital/newsarchive/2006/01/itv_unveils_new.php)

ericd121

01-09-2006, 10:35 AM

Oooo, I like them, very swish! :p

[Off-topic] Someone at itv.com (http://www.itv.com/) had a bit of fun with the previews on their homepage

ITV2 Surface

9.00pm. When fish attack...

ITV3 The Return

9.00pm. When women attack...

ITV4 Defence of the Realm

9pm. When governments attack...

aerialplug

01-10-2006, 09:56 AM

I was guessing something like this would happen - that ITV would use the same look/feel and I guessed it would be like the ITV4 look.

Will roll up a set of these pronto.

RichardJH

01-10-2006, 10:44 AM

Any chance of a logo for more4 +1

I see it has already been asked at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=266711

aerialplug

01-10-2006, 11:17 AM

Okey, here they are, the new look ITV 1,2,3 and 4. If you're using loadlogos to update the logos, you'll have to add your own ITV region's suffix to ITV1 otherwise they'll all install automatically.

aerialplug

01-10-2006, 11:19 AM

Any chance of a logo for more4 +1

I see it has already been asked at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=266711

Yes, there's one of those on the way. I didn't like my first version so I'll have another go at redrawing it - it's essentially the more4 logo with +1 after it.

b166er

01-11-2006, 04:07 AM

Noobie probs here :(

Tried updating logos using TiVoWeb and got the message "sorry your logo dataset is empty". It offered no solution or help as to how to fill a dataset.

Also tried using loadlogos.tcl. I ftp'ed the loadlogos.tcl and deletelogos.tcl to /var/hack and chmod 755'ed them. I then ftp'ed the logos to new folder /var/hack/logos .... when I ran the command /var/hack/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos my tivo crashed:

Welcome to the wonderful world of TiVo... :)

File system on / is now READONLY - type 'rw' to make READ/WRITE

Bash /var/tmp #cd /var/hack
Bash /var/hack #
Bash /var/hack #ls
bin rc.sysinit.author.dd_original
deletelogos.tcl readme.txt
endpad.err scripts
endpad.tcl setup
joe.tar tbin.tar
joerc tivoweb-tcl
loadlogos.tcl tivoweb-tcl-1.9.4.tar
logos tivoweb-tcl-1.9.4.tar.gz
nic_config_tivo tytools
Bash /var/hack #
Bash /var/hack #chmod 755 loadlogos.tcl
Bash /var/hack #
Bash /var/hack #chmod 755 deletelogos.tcl
Bash /var/hack #
Bash /var/hack #/var/hack/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos
Initialising logo list
Initialising channel list
Tmk Fatal Error: Thread tivosh <253> died due to signal 11
NIP 0x1a8ca50 link 0x1a8ca50 ctr 29850380
R00 0x01a8ca50 R01 0x7fffd4e0 R02 0x00000100 R03 0x01daef7c
R04 0x01a96ebc R05 0x00000001 R06 0x3004f0f0 R07 0x01a96e64
R08 0x3004f0f0 R09 0x01db0000 R10 0x7fffd51c R11 0x3004f418
R12 0x30000c74 R13 0x01da9208 R14 0x30000fb0 R15 0x00000000
R16 0x00000000 R17 0x00000000 R18 0x30000fc4 R19 0x7fffe838
R20 0x3004e8a2 R21 0x00000000 R22 0x00000000 R23 0x00000002
R24 0x3004f0f0 R25 0x3004f0f0 R26 0x00000001 R27 0x01daefd0
R28 0x01daefd0 R29 0x696e6172 R30 0x3004e6f8 R31 0x01a96e64
1a344fc 7fffd3f8 1a8ca50 1c53964 1c52804 1c50d14 1c4d810 1c77e7c 1c61a10 1c8df68
1c77e7c 1c61a10 1c4e254 1c4d810 1c77e7c 1c61a10 1c8e4e0 1c77e7c 1c61a10 1c8e4e0
1c77e7c 1c61a10 1c849c0 1c85ec8 1c4d248 1c28cac 1800134

Any ideas how I can get one of the methods to work? I don't mind which it is.

aerialplug

01-11-2006, 07:27 PM

10 views in 30 hours... oh well... :( Why bother.

I'll keep up updating logos for my own use in my own time but it looks like publishing them here as soon as they appear seems to be for a diminishing audience.

6022tivo

01-11-2006, 07:31 PM

Ohhh No Mr Plug, please don't.

Because the logo's change so ofter (it appears).. I normally download every month or so, and use loadlogo's to get them up to date.

Please don't be low, we all love your logo's.

b166er

01-11-2006, 07:34 PM

we all love your logo's.I'm trying to love them :rolleyes: but I think they don't like me.

Ian_m

01-12-2006, 04:03 AM

Tmk Fatal Error: Thread tivosh <253> died due to signal 11
NIP 0x1a8ca50 link 0x1a8ca50 ctr 29850380
R00 0x01a8ca50 R01 0x7fffd4e0 R02 0x00000100 R03 0x01daef7c
.............
Any ideas how I can get one of the methods to work? I don't mind which it is.
Seen this before with a corrupt database.

Just re-do a guided setup and hopefully all will be OK.

teresatt

01-12-2006, 04:18 AM

aerialplug, we really do appreciate all your hard work. Please keep up the good work.

b166er

01-12-2006, 04:49 AM

Seen this before with a corrupt database. Just re-do a guided setup and hopefully all will be OK.Thanks for the suggestion Ian.

That worked perfectly. I managed to load the logos using the loadlogos.tcl once I'd re-done the guided setup and waited for it to finish it's 4-8 hour processing (which took less than an hour :))

Now I can really thank aerialplug because I can see the coolness of his work :)

ericd121

01-12-2006, 05:36 AM

10 views in 30 hours... oh well... :( Why bother.Damn! I wrote a thank you message, with a comment, and then got distracted and didn't post it. So, here's what I wrote...
------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
Thank you for these new logos. :up:

I regard them as an essential addition to the GUI;
they make Now Playing much easier to use.

FYI ITVTHREE-s2-p2.png and ITV4-s2-p2.png both have the dreaded Magenta background (in TivoWeb).
------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------

See; we give with one hand and take with the other. ;)

I had less than a dozen downloads for my last update to my themes;
I think we are catering to a very exclusive clientele, but, there again, so is TiVo... :p

AMc

01-12-2006, 05:52 AM

aerialplug - I've only just networked my Tivo but the logos make all the difference to Now Playing. I'll be adding your updates when I get time.
I guess if you 're more familiar with what you're doing then you can do it quickly, but I need a nice quiet hour to do anything at the moment.

Your work is appreciated!

kitschcamp

01-12-2006, 10:56 AM

They do make a difference - I remember, along with Mr Tickle, being one of the first few battling on with the logos initially and getting some to start us off from the Canadian tivo users! I'm away from home at the moment, so I'm not updating them till I can be safely in front of the tivo to break it ;) I don't think my other half would be pleased if I did it from this distance <G>

Mike B

01-12-2006, 11:27 AM

Yeah, please keep publishing them Aerialplug. 'Now Playing' is much duller without them.

:)

RichardJH

01-12-2006, 01:01 PM

Same as the others without you aerialplug my Tivos would be bare and now I only need more4+1 ;) ;) :D . AND I am not going to ask for all the odd radio stations that I have on Telewest because I have so many TV progs (All with lovely logos) to watch that I haven't time to listen to much radio.

aerialplug

01-12-2006, 01:23 PM

Okey okey, I get the message, More4+1 ... ;) I'll try to get round to it either later tonight or tomorrow!

I think it's also about time I incorporated some of the more recent +1 channels into the zip file and also the other changes I've added as standalone zip files recently. Most +1 channels will be duplicates of the standard channels, but since there's a significant need for E4+1 I'll do it.

I've also noticed that a couple of call signs have changed over the past few months. I don't know what happened to season passes when this happened as they were all obscure channels I don't normally watch but it does have the consiquence of the automatic logo associating script failing to bind the logo to these channels. Again, I'm aiming to get these modified for the next release.

So the message is this - if you're not in a rush to get the ITV ones installed, wait for the 8.2 download so that you can get all the changes done in one go. I'll have fixed the transparency problem with ITV3 in that issue as well.

I've only really done Freeview radio - most radio stations don't have regular TiVo schedules so won't crop up unless you specifically ask for a recording.

Also, with the iminent channel number changes, it looks likely that we'll lose the ability to record radio channels on Sky soon as the radio stations will have leading 0s - something TiVo can't currently handle as channel numbers are stored as integer numbers.

As an aside, I was a bit dubious about the new ITV brands until I saw them on screen. Boy do they stand out - you REALLY know when you've recorded something from ITV now!

RichardJH

01-12-2006, 01:30 PM

:D ;) ;) :D I guess you may know whats coming. Has there been anyone who has done SkySports logos for 1 2 3 and Xtra. Just a thought or was that a wish :D :D

Stradlingp

01-12-2006, 02:02 PM

I second that.

With just the default logos the interface looks strangely bland.

Keep up the good work, it is much appreciated!

Should TiVo ever come back to the UK (pretty please) they should incorporate these logos as part of the standard software distro.

aerialplug

01-12-2006, 03:22 PM

I think you'll find that Pluggy's already ahead of you on that one:D Post #612 in this thread.

Granted there were some problems in that zip file that I forgot to send the corrections for but they'll be sorted by the time they appear in the 8.2 distro.

With regard to TiVo incorporating them - using them officially is quite a large issue. They'd have to set up agreements with all the channels to officially use their brands. And there's more to it than that too. I know for a fact that most broadcasters have very clear guidelines in how their logos are supposed to look - how much border, the gap between the brand and channel name etc. The small size allowed by TiVo would mean that many of these guidelines would have to be breached - and believe me some of these companies are hot about their branding (and rightly so as it's part of the all over-all image).

I think that's why we only ever got BBC logos and nothing channel specific.

The logos that are on the basic unmodified TiVo have been provided only for channels which TiVo had a special agreement with when they launched - BBC (including the UK Flextech), Channel 4 and Sky. They'd have to set up commercial agreements with all the different channels which would also probably involve fees for the use of the branding.

There's one other problem - again down to channels insisting on their brand looking correct - the lack of a wide colour pallette for the S2 logo. Purple is pretty hard to do and if a brand isn't in that PERFECT shade, some broadcasters I'm pretty sure would balk at an officially endorsed logo being released in an off-colour.

It's one thing where a small group use these unofficial logos (probably somewhere between 50-100 people on a platform that isn't even available in the UK any more). But to do it properly on a commercial scale - that's a whole different ball game I'm afraid.

I like the ITV new look more and more - I just hope they don't use the re-brand as an excuse to start using an ITV1 logo. Most of the historic political barriers that stopped them doing this from the very beginning have now largely been eliminated...

dogsbody

01-12-2006, 05:11 PM

Thanks aerialplug for all your hard work, you can add me down as someone else that loves your logos but only visits this forum once a month or so to update on the latest versions of all these great "hacks" :rolleyes:

I'm looking forward to v8.2 now :)

b166er

01-13-2006, 04:13 AM

Same as the others without you aerialplug my Tivos would be bare and now I only need more4+1 ;) ;) :D FYI, what I did for the missing +1 logos is just duplicate the logo for the none+1 channel and rename it to the P1 name and upload it. When it comes to looking at my Now Playing list I don't really care whether it was the regular or the +1 channel the show was recorded from. Of course once the +1 logo's come along I'll grab 'em but that trick works in the interim. I thought about making a +1 logo for more4 but then thought better of it ;)

aerialplug

01-13-2006, 08:00 AM

FYI, what I did for the missing +1 logos is just duplicate the logo for the none+1 channel and rename it to the P1 name and upload it. When it comes to looking at my Now Playing list I don't really care whether it was the regular or the +1 channel the show was recorded from. Of course once the +1 logo's come along I'll grab 'em but that trick works in the interim. I thought about making a +1 logo for more4 but then thought better of it ;)

That's what I've done, but there seems to be quite an interest for More4+1 as there was for E4+1.

aerialplug

01-14-2006, 09:23 AM

Okie dokie. Version 8.2 is now available as a beta release here (http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos). I've released it as a beta this time as there have been quite a few tweaks and although I've tested quite a few of these, I'm sure something will slip through.

Can people please feed back any problems or requests in the next day or so so that I can make 8.2 official.

Also, if you've got a networked TiVo and haven't tried putting custom logos on your TiVo, now may be a good chance to try. This distribution is the most comprehensive yet and it also contains logos that haven't even officially launched yet, including the forthcoming ITV re-brand! I've also added some simple instructions on how to use Stuart's scripts to automatically load and associate logos onto the TiVo.

dogsbody

01-14-2006, 10:00 AM

As I'm on Cable so do I want the Freeview distribution or Sky Distribution!?

Could there perhaps be a distribution with ALL the logo's in please?

b166er

01-14-2006, 10:14 AM

I've posted a complimentary tivoweb module here:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=281908

It makes (more) use of the logos. If you copy them also to the /var/hack/images folder and put this module into /var/hack/tivoweb-tcl/modules then when you run userinterface->now showing you'll get a channel logo column there too (just like on tivo now playing screen).

ericd121

01-14-2006, 10:21 AM

Can people please feed back any problems or requests in the next day or so so that I can make 8.2 official.ITV4-s2-p2.png has a magenta background.

I'm getting "Invalid file format" when importing MORE4P1-s1-p1.png and MORE4P1-s2-p2.png individually in TivoWeb's Logos module.

FYi The method I used was to drag files from WinZip to a Windows folder, and then use the Import Logo link.

dogsbody

01-14-2006, 11:08 AM

Well I have just imported everything I could find :-)

I am seeing the same two issues with ITV4-s2-p2.png, MORE4P1-s1-p1.png and MORE4P1-s2-p2.png as Eric everything else was OK.

Any chance you could remove the pink from "mbriodys_logos"?? or just add them to your collection (the ones that you haven't already got that is).

And if your interested :rolleyes: here are the channels that currently have no logos for me...
633 IBUY2 iBuy TV2
661 YESUK YES
872 PRIMET Prime Time
874 ARROW Arrow Rock
875 UCB UCB Europe Radio
879 CORE Core
881 STORM The Storm
882 THEMIX The Mix
883 HEART Heart FM
885 CENTURY Century
887 GALRAD Galaxy Radio
888 CAPRAD Capital FM
890 CAPGOLD Capital Gold
891 XFM XFM
892 VIRGIN Virgin Radio
905 DATING Dating Channel
906 ALPHPUN Alpha Etc Punjabi
907 THANE Thane Direct
921 CFMTV Classic FM TV
923 STPSHP Thane Direct: Stop and Shop
924 SPDAU Speed Auction TV

I also have four BBC channels with the default BBC logo...
870 BBCRWL BBC Radio Wales
871 BBCRUL BBC Radio Ulster
897 BBCYMRU BBC Radio Cymru
898 BBCRNG BBC RADIO NAN GAIDHEAL

Just thought I would post this as you were asking for feedback. I LOVE your logo's! :up: :up: :up:

aerialplug

01-14-2006, 11:42 AM

Problems with More4+1 and ITV4 noted.

Dogbody: Freeview is pretty much a subset of the Sky set and the call signs are almost all the same for cable as they are for Sky. I don't have cable myself but know a lot of people who use the Sky set for cable.

National BBC radio stations I can see a case for (which includes Wales, Scotland and Ireland) as many of these are very much schedule driven, but the majority of the stations listed in the list above don't have any schedules within TiVo. I may do them for completeness, one day, but priority is getting the wrinkles out of 8.2 beta set.

dogsbody

01-14-2006, 02:05 PM

No worries, thank you very much. :)

aerialplug

01-14-2006, 03:01 PM

I just switched over to More4 just now and saw that they now have another new onscreen logo. "More4 New(ish)".

What's "new(ish)"???!
Oh please.
Sorry, but that's now taking the piss.

The official logos are one thing but the rubbish they put onscreen during the programme wer're watching is something else these days.

aerialplug

01-14-2006, 03:57 PM

I've just tried uploading the More4+1 logos to test them again - they worked for me... ?!

ericd121

01-15-2006, 05:29 AM

the More4+1 logos...worked for me... ?!In my copy of the archive, MORE4P1-s1-p1.png and MORE4P1-s2-p2.png are 595 bytes and 486 bytes respectively; i.e. about a third of the size of many other logos... :confused:

RichardJH

01-15-2006, 07:31 AM

I have exactly the same problem as Eric Tivoweb will not import the More4P1 logos saying invalid file format

aerialplug

01-15-2006, 12:00 PM

I see the issue with more4+1 - I fixed the problem after uploading to the zip file but forgot to address the problem before publishing.

The version that I now have works - it was a pallette problem I think.

ericd121

01-16-2006, 02:46 PM

I see the issue with more4+1 - I fixed the problem after uploading to the zip file but forgot to address the problem before publishing.

The version that I now have works...Any chance of releasing the working versions to your small, but devoted, fanbase? ;) :p

b166er

01-16-2006, 09:55 PM

Doesn't anyone want their logos on TiVoWeb Now Showing screen ?

Thread: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=281908

aerialplug

01-17-2006, 07:10 AM

Any chance of releasing the working versions to your small, but devoted, fanbase? ;) :p

Will do, sometime later today. I'm just testing a few extra ones I've added before publishing.

aerialplug

01-17-2006, 01:41 PM

Ok, version 8.2 is now online here (http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos), just in time for the new look ITV (well, ok a day and a bit late, but you did get them early in the beta...)

As well as (hopefully correcting the errors in 8.2beta, I've also included a couple of new logos, mostly some more obscure TV channels and radio channels before I realised that the radio channels will probably become obsolete (for Sky viewers anyway) when Sky start using the new radio channel numbering scheme starting with 0s.

I'm sure some errors may have slipped through - they're fiddly things to deal with! If you spot anything, I'll get it corrected ASAP as a point release.

aerialplug

01-17-2006, 03:28 PM

Oops - 8.2 contains a bad pallete for ITV4-s2-p2.png

I'll correct it on the web site asap but in the mean time the corrected version is attached.

In the mean time, the look of the logos on the ITV channels is slightly different to the "online" and printed versions - they have transparent backs around the number and the number is white instead of black.

I've knocked up a set that look like this on TiVo. I'd be interested in anyone's opinion if you've got a minute or two to load them up to see what you think. They're also in the attached zip file. They're a bit rough and ready but if enough like them, I may replace the current ones with these.

dogsbody

01-17-2006, 05:59 PM

Wonderful work!

I'm not sure about the second lot of ITV logo's, I'd stick with the originals but just my £0.02.

Oh and BBCRNG-tw-s1-p1.png has a pink backround but thank you so much for doing these extra ones, my screen looks totally full :D

ericd121

01-17-2006, 06:40 PM

Thanks for the updated More4+1 logos. :up:

I agree with dogsbody; there's something not quite right about the alternative ITV logos:
they look like they belong in the same Universe as the Evil Kirk (http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Enemy_Within) ... :p

aerialplug

01-17-2006, 07:08 PM

they look like they belong in the same Universe as the Evil Kirk (http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Enemy_Within) ... :p

Well having made the effort of putting them online available...

I totally agree - but I wanted to see what others thought first!

aerialplug

01-18-2006, 08:48 AM

Minor fixes have been made (ITV4 & RNG pallete fixes) and are in version 8.2.1 on thewebsite (http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos) .

As a matter of interest, does anyone know the status of Grampian, Scottish & Ulster? Looking at their web sites, they haven't changed their branding there so I guess they're continuing to refuse to use the unified ITV look & feel.

Also, it goes to show how unobservant I've been - while watching the news last night I thought "holy smokes - there must be a new ITV News channel logo too!". On checking I find the channel doesn't exist any more either of Freeview (where it's had a tenuous existance for a long time) or on Sky. I found out that it was unceremoniously closed down a few weeks ago as it was losing money.

As to the alternative ITV logos - as I've already mentioned as have others, while they looks really good when it's large on the screen when the channel display them, the transparent background around the number just doesn't look right so I won't be using them in future versions.

aerialplug

01-18-2006, 10:23 AM

I missed one - Channel ITV. Nobody's requested it though. Anyone from the Channel Islands want an ITV logo for Channel ITV (if it, like Grampian, Scottish and Ulster are sticking to their own logos?

If there's no rush, it may make its way into a future distribtion.

smatson

01-18-2006, 02:34 PM

Yes please i live in ci
:)

this was my old one :(

not very good

hornist

01-18-2006, 02:42 PM

Not sure if anyone's interested, but here are logos I made for the French channel TV5 (TV5EU). Well I watch it sometime anyway!
It's been working fine on my TiVO for a while, so I hope it's OK.

Paul

aerialplug

01-19-2006, 07:04 AM

Yes please i live in ci
:)

this was my old one :(

not very good

The old type 1 logo looked quite good actually. The colour palette needed a bit of tweaking to make sure it was using only tivo legal colours but other than that it was fine.

I've used the one you provided with the colours corrected allong with one I've created for the type 2 logo.

smatson

01-19-2006, 11:53 AM

Thanks :)

PhilG

01-29-2006, 10:29 AM

Is there a way of running the loadlogos script from the "shell command" interface of HackMan?

Or a way to do a "loadlogos" from somewhere else in TivoWeb??

Thanks

sanderton

01-29-2006, 01:25 PM

I don't use Hackman, but if it lets you execure shell commands you can run loadlogos from there. Can't for the life of me think why you would do that rather then just run it over telnet though.

PhilG

01-30-2006, 03:45 AM

How about "I am not at home and I cannot Telnet remotel into my Tivo through my home firewall"?

What command would I type (I am a Linux nobody)

Thanks

Phil G

sanderton

01-30-2006, 07:30 AM

Why on earth would you want to update the logos remotely? It's hardly an urgent task!

Anyway, you'd use the command outline din the laodlogos instructions. I can give you the exact command as it dpeneds where you FTP'd your logos to.

aerialplug

01-30-2006, 07:58 AM

There's a step by step guide to getting the logos installed using a telnet/bash prompt and Stuart's loadlogos here (http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos).

PhilG

02-01-2006, 09:06 AM

I just downloaded the latest zip file of logos. I ftp'd them all to my Tivo

When I run the loadlogos script, Tivoweb says that "More4" has no logo - but I can see the More4.png file with all the other logos.

Something is obviously wrong, but what?

I imagine I am also missing other logos....

Suggestions anyone??

PhilG

02-01-2006, 09:09 AM

PS

Is there a way to "pipe" the output from the loadlogos script to a file so that I can browse it and see what IT said about More4??

Thanks

aerialplug

02-01-2006, 09:20 AM

I don't have direct access to the logos at the moment - I'll have a look at this tonight to see if there's a palette problem or maybe it's call sign is wrong/changed.

I was experiencing major palette problems with Paintshop around the time I rendered those - this has since been fixed.

I think you can redirect the output of the script by adding "> filename" at the end (though I haven't tried this - it seems logical that all the script output go to the unix standard output rathat than standard error (which would still go straight to the screen and not be caught by the redirect).

aerialplug

02-01-2006, 09:26 AM

oops - I think I spot another potential problem now that I've reread your first email. If you're seeing More4.png then the filename is wrong. You need to have MORE4-s1-p1.png and MORE4-s2-p2.png for the appropriate logos otherwise the script won't pick them up.

PhilG

02-01-2006, 10:09 AM

Apologies - the filenames ARE as you say. I just used shorthand instead of saying "the More4 .png files (4 of them) are where they should be"

I'll try the ">" and see what I get back

PhilG

02-01-2006, 10:18 AM

Hmm

The output from loadlogos says:

Processing /var/hack/logos/MORE4P1-s1-p1.png
Detected Type 1 Palette/Size Format fro more4p1-s1-p1.png
Overwriting Existing Image for more4p1-s1-p1.png
Successfully Imported Image more4p1-s1-p1.png
more4p1-s1-p1.png Already Associated as Logo,
Processing /var/hack/logos/MORE4P1-s2-p2.png
Detected Type 2 Palette/Size Format fro more4p1-s2-p2.png
Overwriting Existing Image for more4p1-s2-p2.png
Successfully Imported Image more4p1-s2-p2.png
more4p1-s2-p2.png Already Associated as Logo,
Processing /var/hack/logos/MORE4-s1-p1.png
Detected Type 1 Palette/Size Format fro more4-s1-p1.png
Overwriting Existing Image for more4-s1-p1.png
Successfully Imported Image more4-s1-p1.png
more4-s1-p1.png Already Associated as Logo,
Processing /var/hack/logos/MORE4-s2-p2.png
Detected Type 2 Palette/Size Format fro more4-s2-p2.png
Overwriting Existing Image for more4-s2-p2.png
Successfully Imported Image more4-s2-p2.png
more4-s2-p2.png Already Associated as Logo,

So perhaps this is a Tivoweb problem after all.....????

Phil G

johala_reewi

02-07-2006, 07:43 AM

dogsbody

02-07-2006, 10:43 AM

If memory serves well then the old logos are also included in the zip file from aerialplug.

johala_reewi

02-09-2006, 08:30 AM

aerialplug

02-09-2006, 09:05 AM

aerialplug: I am trying to darken the ITV2 (S2) logo a bit (so the green isn't so bright). I have studied your howto webpage but am using GIMP2 (not paintshop pro). I open your logo and check the colour palette and sure enough, it is (or seems to be) the Tivo original palette. I pick a slightly darker green from the palette (one that also shows in your S2 mask) and flood fill. So far so good. I save the PNG and load into Tivo. The import goes OK but when the logo is displayed in now showing, the colours are rubbish. There is also a slight difference when I view your logo and my logo in IrfanView. Your logo shows with a magenta background, mine shows with a transparent backgound. However, both show with a transparent background in GIMP2. Have you any ideas where I am slipping up?

Could the palette be screwing up when you save? I had this problem where by default paintshop pro was optimising the palette on the save making the logos look fine online but as TiVo has a pre-built palette, the colours don't match.

Also, are you using the "mask" palletes? About 30-40% of the colours in the TiVo palette are semi transparent when displayed on TiVo to allow cool antialiasing around the text, but these colours map to rubbish on the full TiVo palette as loaded from TiVo using TivoWeb. Try modifying the logo using the mask palette.

I'm unfamiliar with Gimp so I don't know what its defaults are.

aerialplug

02-09-2006, 09:09 AM

Hi. Have installed the latest ITV logos (freeview_8.2.1) and the itv1 and itv2 logos are a bit bright on my tivo. The yellow and green backgrounds are very light and so in now playing, it is hard to read the ITV in white. The itv3 logo is fine because the red is quite dark and itv4 is OK. I prefer the previous itv4 logo (with the black number 4) instead of the new white number version.

Previous versions of the zip file are still online - it's just that I don't link to them any more.

Also, I'm pretty sure I put the old ITV4 logo in the deprecated folder on the latest zip file.

Bare in mind that some colours are quite difficult to achieve using the available pallette - the step between brightnesses can be vast and a couple of colours are not available at all (e.g. purple). You may wish to try dithering - I personally don't like dither as it gives the logos a gravelly look.

johala_reewi

02-09-2006, 09:48 AM

Could the palette be screwing up when you save? I had this problem where by default paintshop pro was optimising the palette on the save making the logos look fine online but as TiVo has a pre-built palette, the colours don't match.

Also, are you using the "mask" palletes? About 30-40% of the colours in the TiVo palette are semi transparent when displayed on TiVo to allow cool antialiasing around the text, but these colours map to rubbish on the full TiVo palette as loaded from TiVo using TivoWeb. Try modifying the logo using the mask palette.

I'm unfamiliar with Gimp so I don't know what its defaults are.

The answer is yes, something is screwing up when it saves because if I just open one of your logos and save it with no mods, the colours change when it is displayed by Tivo. So it has to be a palette problem somewhere.

By default, GIMP uses the palette it found in the PNG which appears to be the Tivo original palette (not one of your mask palettes). Unfortunately, GIMP doesn't use PAL files, it uses GPL files for palettes. So I can't just plug in your mask palette. Good news is I have found a PAL to GPL conversion tool (Kolorgenerator). Bad news is, it can't import your PAL files to due an error (unkown data format). I will have a go at creating a GPL version of your mask palette by hand.

johala_reewi

02-09-2006, 09:50 AM

Previous versions of the zip file are still online - it's just that I don't link to them any more.

Also, I'm pretty sure I put the old ITV4 logo in the deprecated folder on the latest zip file.

Many thanks. Have now got a full set of new style ITV logos in both original (black number) and alternative (white number) versions.

johala_reewi

02-09-2006, 10:24 AM

Have also found little buggette on your website. The S2 masks link to the S1 PAL files when you save them. The Tivo S2 original PAL is OK.

<A HREF="./s2tivo.pal">
<IMG border="0" src="./s2tivo.png" width="62" height="115" alt="type 2 tivo"></A>
</TD>
<TD>
<A HREF="./s1mask.pal">
<IMG border="0" src="./s2mask.png" width="62" height="115" alt="type 2 purple mask"></A>
</TD>
<TD>
<A HREF="./s1green.pal">
<IMG border="0" src="./s2green.png" width="62" height="115" alt="type 2 green mask"></A>

johala_reewi

02-09-2006, 05:35 PM

Cracked it!! The palette being picked up by GIMP was missing the magenta colour (the very first one) so all the colour indexes were one out when the image was saved. You need to use the full Tivo palette (with the magenta) to fix things. Attached are the GPL (Gimp palette) files to use with GIMP (based on aerialplug's PAL files).

GarySargent

02-23-2006, 03:05 AM

Heads up: Sounds like TiVo might be pushing out some new logos in the next 24 hours so this may zap any hacked ones (which you would need to upload again).

I have no further details.

ozsat

02-23-2006, 03:46 AM

The logo changes are just fixes for some name changes and recent additions - like the old logo being removed from Sky Two, and a BBC service without its logo.

aerialplug

02-23-2006, 09:43 AM

I wonder if we'll see any official new logos any time soon from TiVo? Sky One has changed to Sky Onc since the last update and Channel 4 has turned into the 3D profile (which is really hard to draw when it's 33 pixels tall!)

This update may well zap the custom logos - remember, the logos get zapped for no adequate reason every now and again so if we know they're doing something to the logo set...

With disruption a possibility, I've added a few channels to the distribution including a palce holder for the new Children's ITV channel, though this'll probably change when I find out what the logo really looks like. The new logos along with the old ones can be downloaded here (http://www.hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos).

Most of the channels aren't likely to see the light of day on most TiVos but there's always someone with a special interest. Some of these channels actually have some supporting metadata for the programmes that are on! The channels are: Bright Entertainment Network TV, CCTV9, Friendly TV, Hollywood TV, London, Majestic TV, NDTV 24x7, Open Access 1 & 2, Propeller, Quiz Call, Quiz TV, Raj TV, Real Estate TV, South Asia TV, True Movies.

Bright Entertainment Network is worth a look if you've never seen it. Let's just say the production values aren't quite as high as most channels... It's got a bitrate that makes TiVo in basic quality look stunning in comparison, I've seen programmes on it where the video compression was leaving bits of previous scenes hanging around on the screen for several seconds after shock changes. Sometimes the audio can be as much as 10 frames out of synch and often programmes coming from tapes with a lot of glitches - both analogue and digital tape glitches on the same programe! Many programmes and adverts go out field reversed causing any lateral motion to be very jerkey. I could go on :)

hornist

02-24-2006, 04:44 AM

I've added a few channels to the distribution

I posted logos for the French channel TV5 further up this thread. It's part of the Telewest Supreme package. You're welcome to include them in the distribution if you like.

Paul

aerialplug

02-24-2006, 04:36 PM

Not as bad as it could have been, but the Sky2 logo has been wiped in today's download as predicted.

big_dirk

02-27-2006, 05:05 PM

hope someone can help please, I have TiVoweb v1.9.4 and i want to add the channel logos i've dl, where do I put them please? I honestly have searched but I can't actually find the answer!

thanks.

aerialplug

02-28-2006, 06:22 AM

hope someone can help please, I have TiVoweb v1.9.4 and i want to add the channel logos i've dl, where do I put them please? I honestly have searched but I can't actually find the answer!

I've tried to make it as clear as possible in my instructions here (http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos/) . TivoWeb has a module called Logos which allows you to upload logos. Simply use the Import Logo section to upload the logos from your PC to TiVo's internal database. Once there, use the channel listing in the Logos module to associate the logos to the various channels.

If you've got a lot of logos, I'd recommend using Stuart's script which'll automatically associate all logos to their associated channels (providing the filename matches the channel's call sign as mine do). Detailed instructions on how to use that are on my web site (the one linked to above and in my .sig).

You'll need to reboot TiVo to see them which ever method you use.

big_dirk

02-28-2006, 06:36 AM

thanks very much.

aerialplug

03-02-2006, 01:56 PM

Fed up of the same old logos appearing on your Now Showing screen? Want a trip down memory lane? Read on.

Attached to this file is a set of channel idents based on what TiVo may have presented on these channels years ago had the technology been available then. They're all TiVo compatible so you can try them yourself if you've all kitted up for logos, be it TivoWeb or stuart's scripts!

There's no fixed time period, just old logos and idents that I can remember mostly from the early eighties to the early nineties. Here's what the icons look like on the PC:

http://hywel.org.uk/images/nostalgia_logos.png

Have fun! I may or may not add to these in due coruse - I think the Central sphere used in the late '80s to early '90s is essential to this set!

I've got another release of the "proper" logos about to be made available too - lots more minority channels added as well as some of the gaming channels.

kitschcamp

03-02-2006, 02:17 PM

You mean
http://www.thepoultrykeeper.co.uk/tivo/logos/s-1/itv1cen-s1-p1.png
and
http://www.thepoultrykeeper.co.uk/tivo/logos/s-2/itv1cen-s2-p2.png

I've had those for a long while :D

mrtickle

03-02-2006, 03:35 PM

^^ I remember creating that one :D

I love the nostalgic BBC2. And it doesn't need purple, so it'll look right! ;)

terryeden

03-03-2006, 04:36 AM

Perhaps it's time to create a Thames logo a la <a href="http://625.uk.com/tv_logos/logos/thames_boobs.jpg">Kenny Everett</a>? :-)

aerialplug

03-03-2006, 12:43 PM

If you're wondering what the yellow blob on the UK Gold logo is, they had a golden dog as part of their ident at the very beginning and that's what it looks like at about 40 pixels in height with a reduced colour palette!

aerialplug

03-04-2006, 07:31 AM

On a more practical note, I live in an area where I can recieve two ITV regions. In fact, anyone with Sky can recieve 2 regions if you're outside the London region as audio description is only provided on the London ITV.

Up until now I've used the same ITV logo for both regions (I hardly ever record from the more distant region unless there's an interesting regional programme). I decided however to identify the separate regions using the official ITV regional idents.

In fact, this is how ITV1 brands itself online - you'll now only see the ITV1 logo (in the same style as ITV2,3 and 4) on screen it seems.

So, attached are the regional idents. I'm going to carry on using the yellow ITV1 logo for my main region but I'll use the regional ident to differentiate the more distant station.

This will be included in the next distribution on the web site.

Does anyone else foresee using these idents? Would anyone use these to identify their main ITV station instead of the yellow ITV1? Just interested to know, that's all.

aerialplug

03-14-2006, 11:17 AM

There have been a few changes and additions posted here over the last couple of weeks - it's time to consolidate all of these into a new build on the web site (http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos).

On the web site you'll find the lastest logo files for Sky and Freeview. Main changes are: some rebrands, a new regional ITV set of logos, loads of new minority channels (mostly gaming), and the 2 new ITV logos - CITV and ITV Play (coming next month) - see attached for the final two if you just want those. Call sign of ITV Play to be confirmed. its logo was found on page 39 of a rather long power point presentation from ITV.

BobBlueUK

03-17-2006, 07:08 AM

Thanks as usual for your sterling efforts, aerialplug!

Have now updated to the latest 8.4.0 package and my Now Playing is looking a lot more colourful... :)

aerialplug

03-17-2006, 07:11 AM

I was around a friend's house the other day who has an un-modded TiVo. Now Playing looked decidedly naked without the logos ;)

...coolstream

03-17-2006, 10:10 AM

I was around a friend's house the other day who has an un-modded TiVo. Now Playing looked decidedly naked without the logos ;)

Not only colouful, but the logos also make individual programs stand out more in what has become a large list of archived material.

Thanks also for the headsup about BBCLON etc. It's always good to have an extra channel and now that Telewest has added these channels to their list, I now have three extra channels! :)

I say three and nor five because Ch4 and Ch5 are no different in their regional forms and furthermore, adding them to my favorite list as a test caused them to disappear from view altogether when using PJs Grid module.

I now have them in 'Channels I receive' but not in 'Favorites' and now they appear in the Grid module again.

thechachman

03-17-2006, 10:27 AM

a slight glitch with FILM4W on the filenaming ...

BTW ap - looks like youve stopped linking to the space I'd set aside for this, all done using it?

aerialplug

03-17-2006, 10:33 AM

a slight glitch with FILM4W on the filenaming ...

BTW ap - looks like youve stopped linking to the space I'd set aside for this, all done using it?

Yes, I spotted that - I think they changed the callsign at some point. I'll look into it tonight. Ethernet port on my home PC to TiVo is currently bust so I can't log in to find out what it should be.

Thanks for helping me with the hosting - yes, I now have my own hosting with enough bandwidth to cope with Underground History (http://underground-history.co.uk) (about 30-35 GIG a MONTH!) so I've moved everything over there. I did the main move some time ago but then this morning I noticed the links to the individual logos were still going over there.

Once again, thanks for hosting them for me when I didn't have enough space on my own site.

thechachman

03-17-2006, 10:37 AM

the glitch is yours not theirs ...

archive contents:

FILM4W-s21p1.png <-
FILM4W-s2-p2.png

instead of

FILM4W-s1-p1.png
FILM4W-s2-p2.png

No worries on the space/bandwidth 'lend' ... glad to be of help/support

BTW - when did they bork up the Sky BoxOffice to be SBO1-36 and SKBO37-> ?

aerialplug

03-17-2006, 10:40 AM

I've spotted 2 other glitches - one pair is missing an s1-p1 logo (MTV Base) and another pair is missing the s2-p2 (Reality TV Extra). I'll sort these out and update the web site with a point update.

thechachman

03-17-2006, 10:45 AM

hadnt spotted that but good catch

EpcotEric

03-18-2006, 11:56 AM

I cannot seem to get the "import" function to work in the Logos module for TWP. I can pick a png file, but the moment I click IMPORT, I get the "page cannot be displayed" response. I have a DSR708 zippered TiVo.

I have tried a different PC on the same network, and I have tried a different browser (Firefox). I have re-run rbauch script. Everything else seems to work fine except Import Logo. I have tried importing to both Tivo and DirecTV space with no luck.

I have seen a few people mention this problem before with no responses.

Any ideas? :confused:

ericd121

04-04-2006, 05:42 AM

aerialplug

04-04-2006, 07:15 AM

Putting back the channels logos once again... :rolleyes:

Could someone tell me:-
Where the generic BBC logo lives?
Where do imported logos go (the same place)?

I ask because the imported More4+1 logos, more4p1-tw-s1-p1.png and more4p1-tw-s2-p2.png according to TivoWeb, don't show up in /var/hack/logos using ls in a telnet window, or in an FTP listing.

I'm trying to rename some logo files so that, when I next use loadlogos.tcl, I get the logos I want first time. ;)

I think the more4 problem is my fault. Stuart's script needs the filename to match the channel callsign to make the association and I think someone has already pointed out that the more4+1 call sign I use is wrong.

As in where the logos all go, where you put them when you FTP them is up to you. That's because in the end they all need to be copied over to the MFS file space where TiVo gets them from - that's what Stuart's script or TiVo Web places them.

the connection to my home PC is down at the moment so I can't use TivoWeb to let you know exactly where the graphics are stored, but all of TiVo's graphics are stored in a single MFS directory, including some intreaguing ones used only on US TiVos, including satellite setup graphics and a few DirectTV related graphics.

The generic BBC logo (and all of the original logos) are still in this directory. An assumption is made by tivoweb and stuarts scripts that all new logos added by us are asigned an index above a certain number. That way block deletion is easy and won't delete any of TiVo's internal graphics.

aerialplug

04-04-2006, 01:41 PM

Putting back the channels logos once again... :rolleyes:

Ah - I see what you mean. They've all gone native on my TiVo :(

aerialplug

04-06-2006, 10:05 AM

Oops - nearly forgot. For anyone wanting to see the TiVo's graphics, be they the logos you've uploaded, TiVo's native logos or all the other onscreen graphics, use TiVoWeb and go here: http://tivo/mfs/Resource/Image (replacing tivo with whatever yours is called).

There's some intreaguing ones in there amongst the incredibly tedious "furnature" graphics!

mbriody

04-14-2006, 12:00 PM

I recently had to do a reload of the logos and this was the first time since I reran guided setup to cope with the changes to the radio channels.

Anyway I have a number of logos missing even after rerunning loadlogos and rebooting several times.

For example I've lost FIVE, my regional ITV1ANG, BBC2 and BBC4 and can't seem to get them back no matter what I try.

FIVE and ITV1ANG are blank, BBC2 and BBC4 are the default 'BBC' logo.

I definitely have logos for these 4 channels in my /var/hack/logos directory:

bash-2.02# ls ITV1ANG*
ITV1ANG-s1-p1.png ITV1ANG-s2-p2.png
bash-2.02# ls FIVE*
FIVE-s1-p1.png FIVE-s2-p2.png
bash-2.02# ls BBC2-*
BBC2-s1-p1.png BBC2-s2-p2.png

The other thing is that I can't view or change any of the TV channel logos in TiVoWeb for channels 101-190 because only the Radio channel logos are displayed.

Any ideas?

04-14-2006, 01:07 PM

No idea about the missing logos, but I've modded a version of index.itcl that renumbers the radio channels within TW (by adding 1000) as it wasn't designed for two channels on the same number. Code is here (http://www.ljay.org.uk/tivoweb/index.itcl).

mbriody

04-14-2006, 01:32 PM

Thanks LJ. That's allowed me to see and manually modify the current logos.

Boy there are a lot of wrong assignments. I'm going to try deletelogos and start again.

aerialplug

04-18-2006, 11:56 AM

How does TivoWeb cope when you have a Freeview/Sky 2 tuner setup? I seem to recall channels that had the same number being handled by TivoWeb in this case so how is the Sky Radio/Sky TV scenario different?

I too can't see the TV stations for the radio but it's no big deal for me as I only have 2 radio stations activated - radio 4 and BBC7. Channel 4 has its doppleganger on 994 and I can't say I've noticed the channel replaced by BBC7 being missing. I will modify the code to reflect the change.

04-19-2006, 02:55 PM

Does TW cope with a dual setup with duplicate numbers? The problem line in index.itcl is:

set channeltablenum($num) $stationfsid

where $num is dbobj $channelobj get Number - so the second channel with an already used number overwrites the first's data. No problem when one channel number is used for regional variations because you'd only have one active.

aerialplug

04-24-2006, 07:25 AM

Well, I can understand why I never saw it as a problem as when I was actively using my dual setup, the majority of channel numbers for freeview were double figures (<100) and all the Sky ones were >100. I must admit that I thought it did cope with 700-702 (the old interactive channels) bit equally, I probably had Sky Box office turned off.

I'll update to your code when I get a chance - having to look way down the EPG for Channel 4 is getting on my nerves a bit now...

bigrig

04-29-2006, 12:38 PM

Could someone help me making a couple channel logos?

I tried doing it with photo-editing softwares and didn't have any luck - my research eventually led me to this thread and your website, aerialplug.

I'm trying to make logos for TNT-HD and ESPN2-HD.

I've attached what I was trying to go for.

Thanks,

Matt

Edit - Oh ya, this is for a Series 2 DirecTivo - HR10-250.

aerialplug

04-30-2006, 05:50 PM

Since UK TiVos have recently just started showing the HD channels in the Sky lineup, my initial question was "why?" since no UK TiVo stands a hope of recording HD - but then I see where you're living and what hardware you're using...

Okey having tried to load your logo, my first question is - did you use the correct S2 pallette that I provide on my page? Try as I might - the logo you have added as an attachment doesn't download here as a 256 colour palette - but this may not answer the problem as I've had problems like this getting graphic attachments out of Firefox before now.

Try reading through this (http://hywel.org.uk/tivo/logos/rollyourown.html) and do a step-by-step logo creation. If you're still having problems, attach your logo in a zip file and post it here (or PM me) - that way I can be sure I'm getting the correct version from you.

There is of course the possibility that the series 2 DirecTivo has a different graphical specification to the UK series 1 TiVo (the only device I've had graphics experience with). If that's the case, you're in a different ball park I'm afraid and you'll have to sort it out yourself (though I havne't heard that scenario before either).

bigrig

04-30-2006, 10:15 PM

aerialplug - I don't have paintshop - I'm sure the pallette stuff is my problem. Tivowebplus tells me "Invalid format" when I try to upload. If you could take the .png I posted and try to change it to the correct pallette, that would be great. Don't worry about the ESPN2-HD logo if you want...I've never recorded anything on that channel anyways.

Thanks UK bro! ;)

Matt

aerialplug

05-01-2006, 07:03 AM

This should work.

bigrig

05-01-2006, 06:37 PM

Hmm, nope...tells me invalid file format.

I'm attaching the zip file that contains logos for the other HD stations. The Tivo didn't have any problems with these.

Thanks,
Matt

aerialplug

05-02-2006, 06:10 AM

My apologies - I edited the colour palette on a different installation of paintshop pro that I usually use - I'd fotgotten that "optimise the palette" is on by default and needs to be off otherwise the colour palette is rearranged and is completely different to the one that TiVo's expecting.

The one attached should now work.

bigrig

05-02-2006, 11:13 AM

Hah! Success!! :)

Thanks so much, aerialplug! :up:

Matt

big_dirk

05-06-2006, 11:58 AM

Hi all,

I wonder if I could possibly have some help please?

I'm trying to run the "loadlogos" script, and have sucessfully completed stages 1, 2 and 3 from Arielplug's guide, although when I try to do stage 4, I get the following error at the bash prompt, can someone please advise?

bash-2.02# ./loadlogos.tcl ./logos
bash: ./loadlogos.tcl: No such file or directory

many thanks.

Mike B

05-06-2006, 12:01 PM

Did you transfer the files in binary mode?
Have you used chmod to make the tcl script executable?

big_dirk

05-06-2006, 12:12 PM

Did you transfer the files in binary mode?
Have you used chmod to make the tcl script executable?

binary passive yes, chmod i did this:

bash-2.02# chmod +x loadlogos.tcl deletelogos.tcl

and it didnt return anything to the console so I assume it worked.

I am accessing the bash prompt via telnet btw.

Prof. Yaffle

05-06-2006, 12:31 PM

Try using the full paths rather than ./ . In my case I use /var/hack/logos/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos iirc the ./ only works with directories that are specified somewhere (can't remember where).

big_dirk

05-06-2006, 12:33 PM

Try using the full paths rather than ./ . In my case I use /var/hack/logos/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos iirc the ./ only works with directories that are specified somewhere (can't remember where).

bash-2.02# /var/hack/logos/loadlogos.tcl
bash: /var/hack/logos/loadlogos.tcl: No such file or directory
bash-2.02#
bash-2.02# /var/hack/loadlogos.tcl
bash: /var/hack/loadlogos.tcl: No such file or directory

I tried two things, /var/hack/logos/loadlogos.tcl and /var/hack/loadlogos.tcl as the script is outside of the logos directory.

Still the same, I don't know which directory it's on about.

...coolstream

06-03-2006, 10:09 AM

aerialplug et al,

STV the local version of ITV1 has changed its logo to something that reminds me of the old British Steel logo. It still appears as ITVSCO in the guides, so anyone wanting to stay current would just need to change logos.

Personally, I'll be sticking to the logo I have, but I thought I should make you aware of the change so you can create a new one if you want.

I've attached the new logo.

aerialplug

06-07-2006, 03:43 PM

Try this.

Edit: Images with incorrect palettes removed.

...coolstream

06-07-2006, 06:09 PM

Try this.
That certainly is true to the new logo, but I still can't get over what an unispired logo it is.

Your work is appreciated nonetheless!

Edit==================

I just tried to import the p1 logo and get the message that it is an invalid file format

aerialplug

06-08-2006, 05:48 AM

Argh - it's the curse of the default "optimised palette" again on a new install of Paintshop. These should now work!

...coolstream

06-08-2006, 08:57 PM

Argh - it's the curse of the default "optimised palette" again on a new install of Paintshop. These should now work!
Thanks. That one does the trick!

madmox

06-10-2006, 09:41 PM

Ok, here's something.

This script will load into the Tivo a set of logos from a directory on the TiVo - get them up there with FTP.

To use:

Unzip on your PC and FTP loadlogos.tcl to the TiVo. chmod 755 it

Run it with:

./loadlogos.tcl [dirname]

eg,

./loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos

It will load any compatible .png files it finds in the dir and will automatically associate them with the channels they represent if the files are named:

CALLSIGN-s2-p2.png
CALLSIGN-s1-p1.png

eg, UKST1-s2-p2.png for UK Style + 1

Assuming it works OK, then its over to you guys to repost the various logos in this thread with the correct filenames, create duplicates of the logos with the various +1 and regional variation callsigns, and package them up into Sky sets, Freeview sets etc.

Ideally we'd want a zip with all the Sky logos, say, which you can copy to the TiVo, unzip, and run the script.

You'll need to do a Full Reload of TivoWeb to see the effect of this script in the Logos module.

No need to delete old ones first; if it finds a logo with the right callsign it will replace the existing one with it.

The script is 99% repurposed Tivoweb code, so kudos to Jake B. and lightn for the original.

(Also includes deletelogos.tcl which removes all user uploaded logos)

Updated to 1.1 which, er, works!
G'day mates
I'm having a koala of a time getting this here loadlogos.tcl to work.
I don't know if it mwtters but, I'm running my SA2 tcd204 down under using simplicity, I have loaded all channel logos into /var/hack/logos and run the loadlogos command and I get thi error message over and over, (even after multiple full reloads),
ui
errDbNotFound can't open object (errDbNotFound)

while executing
"db $db open /DataSet/GenreVersion"
("uplevel" body line 2)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 5)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set dataset [db $db open /DataSet/GenreVersion]
set genres [dbobj $dataset gettarget Data]
}"
(procedure "GetSAGenres" line 5)
invoked from within
"GetSAGenres"
(procedure "init_db" line 71)
invoked from within
"init_db"
(file "/var/hack/tivowebplus/modules/ui.itcl" line 5097)
invoked from within
"source $module "

seems to be a problem loading UI.itcl but that runs fine in my twp v1.2.1
Other than that, everything else is tickateeboo.
Any help will earn the kind soul a humoungous shrimp on the barbie;-}
G'day

aerialplug

07-18-2006, 07:36 AM

It looks like Film Four are changing their logo as part of the channel's re-launch into the non-subscription world. I attach my first stab at the revised logo. I may refine it when I see what they're using on screen - and there'll probably be a +1 logo too for Sky. In the next revision on the web site, it'll be included in the Freeview selection.

Film Four Weekly is going swimming with concrete boots so won't have a new logo.

I also include a logo I did for the BBC HD trial channel. I know this is pretty pointless as TiVo can't record off this - but I had a spare moment and I was wondering what it would look like on screen...

Whilst I'm at it and my logo drawing tools are sharpened, have any new logos appeared that I haven't spotted - either new channels requested or old channels that have rebranded?