New channel logos

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Wow. Where do you get your free time from :)


Well, it was a choice between Holby City, Coronation Street, Eastenders, Hollyoaks, Emmerdale, Casualty, [insert miscelanious mindless soap/reality here]... or drawing some logos! ;)

[gyre]

Thanks for the logos. They are cool :)

I do have one question... when hitting 'change logo', my tivoweb periodically locks up for about 15-20 mins.

It doesn't seem to do this with any other function.

Known problem?

If so, is there a good way of unlocking it?

Thanks!

-- gyre --

[aerialplug]

Hmm, I haven't seen this happen - and as you can imagine, I've been uploading logos quite a bit recently :)

The only thing I've seen happen on mine (which doesn't sound like your crash) is this:
This has happened twice now. I use a serial PPP connection to TiVo and when I was really hammering the connection (downloading a really long log file) the TiVo simply died. Not a reboot - video froze and everything locked at that moment in time. As I was operating remotely at the time, I had to wait until I got home to find out what had happened.

Yanking the power cord caused a successful reboot.

Luckily I hadn't lost anything important - only Material World from Radio 4 and that was available on Listen Again on their web site.

TiVoweb has caused 2 reboots to my knowledge when I was uploading - this I pot down to a bug in the PPP software rather than TiVoWeb.

[BrianHughes]

Thanks for these - they are really good.

If you happen to have any spare time left would you be able to do a couple of logos for RTE1 and Network2?

I'm attaching a couple of JPegs I found, perhaps that will help.
:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[TiVoMango]

rock on mr plug :D:D:D

very good indeed.

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by BrianHughes
Thanks for these - they are really good.

If you happen to have any spare time left would you be able to do a couple of logos for RTE1 and Network2?


Hmm - I wasn't aware that TiVo supported the Eire channels. By all means, I'll roll a few logos for the channels that are available there.

I'm afraid the images in your attachment are too "busy" - far too much fine detail to look good when reduced - but have no fear, I have clean sources for RTÉ One, RTÉ Network 2, TV 3 & TG4. I'll work on them when I have a chance.

Watch this space...

[aerialplug]

Channels 1-4 for the Eire channels, at your service. Any comments as usual appreciated. The logos in the zip file have been through my filters, but as yet untested as TiVo's watching too much TV for me at the moment ;)

I'll add them to the web site tomorrow sometime, after I've tested them properly.

[BrianHughes]

Aerialplug - you are a scholar and an acrobat! The RTÉ logos look great!

Yes, In Northern Ireland we have support for the Irish channels as we can receive them through aerial and NTL also carry RTÉ1 & Network2 here.

Thanks for this - my listings are now complete - all with matching logos.

[aerialplug]

well... an unexpected new set of logos to download.

It seems that all the "UK" (Flextech/BBC) channels are being re-branded tomorrow:rolleyes:. Gone are the snazzy little UK-"brand" with a small flourish at the end logo. In with the bland "same corporate font with different background colour" (a bit like BBC TV's rebrand...)

These logos come largely untested, as my serial PPP link stopped working today and I have no idea why (I've even re-soldered the serial cable...)

tom_m downloaded some and confirmed that the ones that he'd seen looked good (possibly with the exception of UKTV Gold which may need some work).

So, ladies and gents, here they are. They'll be uploaded to the web site in my sig file in a day or so.


Honestly though... we now have a channel whose official name is UKTV G2!!!

[pahunt]

:up:

When I saw the news about these changes the other day I did think it was bit unfortunate that you'd just done all the logos for them. Mind you I didn't expect you to get them done so quickly though, I'd have thought you'd have been having a holiday :D

[sanderton]

OK. I don't know about anyone else, but we need a way of bulk loading these things, the one-by one approach is like Chinese water torture with the clicks!.

Here's the deal. I'll write the TCL bulk loader script if someone else can put together a "comprehensice" set of the logos. There are so many about! aerialplug has done great job at tidying them up, but there are still plenty of others out there in this thread and at kitschcamp's site.

So we can automate it, they need to be named CALLSIGN.s1.png or CALLSIGN.s2.png, where CALLSIGN is the exact TiVo abbreviated channel name. There needs to be one for each channel name (even the different ITVs and BBCs, and the +1hr channels), even if they are just copies of the same logo.

Ideally they would then be packaged up into sets for Freeview, Sky etc.

The idea is that you'd just FTP a package to a folder on the Tivo, unzip it, and run the bulk loader script.

Anyone up for it?

[aerialplug]

I'm happy to use a standrad filename set for my logos. The only problem would be the regional variations (ITV/BBC), which all have different callsigns for different regions - but can still be represented with the same callsign.

I'm currently still stumped with my serial PPP connection suddently going awol - but I'll see what I can do.

[sanderton]

It would just be a matter of having copies of the same logo but named BBC1WEST.s2.png BBC1LON.s2.png, etc

It's just a lot easier to have dupes of longos than to try to come up with some matching code.

[tom_m]

AP

Excellent work - sanderton's bulk-loader script sounds like a great idea - the only problem with all these great logos is the one-by-one process of installing them!

It'd be really good to have these logos as a "quick load" package. One thought - it would also be nice to have a quick way to delete all the logos off the TiVo too... so I could start with a "clean slate"

[sanderton]

<Moved to new post because can't put attachment back>

[gyre]

Played Stuart!!! I was getting RSI from uploading everything manually.

-- gyre --

[pahunt]

Good work Stuart :up:

[aerialplug]

I'll re-issue my logos (probably tonight) all with the correct callsigns.

[sanderton]

Ok, here's something.

This script will load into the Tivo a set of logos from a directory on the TiVo - get them up there with FTP.

To use:

Unzip on your PC and FTP loadlogos.tcl to the TiVo. chmod 755 it

Run it with:

./loadlogos.tcl [dirname]

eg,

./loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos

It will load any compatible .png files it finds in the dir and will automatically associate them with the channels they represent if the files are named:

CALLSIGN-s2-p2.png
CALLSIGN-s1-p1.png

eg, UKST1-s2-p2.png for UK Style + 1

Assuming it works OK, then its over to you guys to repost the various logos in this thread with the correct filenames, create duplicates of the logos with the various +1 and regional variation callsigns, and package them up into Sky sets, Freeview sets etc.

Ideally we'd want a zip with all the Sky logos, say, which you can copy to the TiVo, unzip, and run the script.

You'll need to do a Full Reload of TivoWeb to see the effect of this script in the Logos module.

No need to delete old ones first; if it finds a logo with the right callsign it will replace the existing one with it.

The script is 99% repurposed Tivoweb code, so kudos to Jake B. and lightn for the original.

(Also includes deletelogos.tcl which removes all user uploaded logos)

Updated to 1.1 which, er, works!

[mini__me]

What a legend :up:

[sanderton]

These are the logos posted earlier in the thread which aerialplug has not done new versions of, renamed to batch upload.

They don't match his, but for completeness...

[sanderton]

Any budding logo designers out there?

I reckon we're missing these:

SKYTRVD :No logos found for SKYTRVD
STRAVX :No logos found for STRAVX
UKDRMA :No logos found for UKDRMA
TRAV2 :No logos found for TRAV2
LIFETV :No logos found for LIFETV
OVRLD :No logos found for OVRLD
FASHTV :No logos found for FASHTV
GAMENET :No logos found for GAMENET
YOUTV :No logos found for YOUTV
AVAGO :No logos found for AVAGO
BENTV :No logos found for BENTV
CLASSIC :No logos found for CLASSIC
ETVINT :No logos found for ETVINT
PERF :No logos found for PERF
RAPTURE :No logos found for RAPTURE
FRIEND :No logos found for FRIEND
LIVETV :No logos found for LIVETV
SKYSP1 :No logos found for SKYSP1
SKYSP2 :No logos found for SKYSP2
SKYSP3 :No logos found for SKYSP3
SKYSPX :No logos found for SKYSPX
SKYSPN :No logos found for SKYSPN
EUSPNEWS :No logos found for EUSPNEWS
EXTREME :No logos found for EXTREME
MTVDANCE :No logos found for MTVDANCE
VH2 :No logos found for VH2
VH1CLS :No logos found for VH1CLS
TMF :No logos found for TMF
BOX :No logos found for BOX
SMASH :No logos found for SMASH
MAGIC :No logos found for MAGIC
QCHAN :No logos found for QCHAN
KRANG :No logos found for KRANG
CHART :No logos found for CHART
VAULT :No logos found for VAULT
THEHITS :No logos found for THEHITS
CFMTV :No logos found for CFMTV
CHANU :No logos found for CHANU
THEAMP :No logos found for THEAMP
SCUZZ :No logos found for SCUZZ
FLAUNT :No logos found for FLAUNT
MCE1 :No logos found for MCE1
MCE2 :No logos found for MCE2
S4C2 :No logos found for S4C2
EURNEWS :No logos found for EURNEWS
FXNUK :No logos found for FXNUK
CCTV9 :No logos found for CCTV9
NICKRPLY :No logos found for NICKRPLY
NICTOON :No logos found for NICTOON
TRBLRE :No logos found for TRBLRE
DKIDS :No logos found for DKIDS
NICKJR :No logos found for NICKJR
POP :No logos found for POP
POP1 :No logos found for POP1
OPACC :No logos found for OPACC
TLKSPT :No logos found for TLKSPT
SKYTRVD :No logos found for SKYTRVD
THEHITS :No logos found for THEHITS
TMF :No logos found for TMF
PRCDRP :No logos found for PRCDRP
SKYSPN :No logos found for SKYSPN
BBC5LX :No logos found for BBC5LX
HITSRAD :No logos found for HITSRAD
HEAT :No logos found for HEAT
MAGICFM :No logos found for MAGICFM
QRAD :No logos found for QRAD
JAZZFM :No logos found for JAZZFM
MOJO :No logos found for MOJO
KERRAD :No logos found for KERRAD

[aerialplug]

Well.. my channel idents are still here - and they've all got new file name identities!

After the filenames have changed, version 4 is essentially the same as version 3 with the exception that all the new UKTV logos that have been in use since Monday have been redesigned.

The main thing is that all the new file names should now be compatible with sanderton's new logo/channel ident installer :) :) :)

Where can the logos be found? - well, as always, follow the link in my signature, at the bottom of this post!

[gyre]

Well done, both of you. Made it *far* less painful :)

I did have one slight oddity... which was that the 2 C4 logos got associated with eurosport news too. :)

Stuart... all we need now is a tivoweb module that asks for a zip archive from the PC's harddrive, uploads it, unpacks it, then runs your scripts :)

/me ducks, quickly.

Thanks again folks.. really great stuff.

-- gyre --

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by gyre

I did have one slight oddity... which was that the 2 C4 logos got associated with eurosport news too. :)



I've seen similar things happen. When you delete a logo and a new logo set is loaded in a different order, the associations to the original MFS file ID sometimes remain with the original channel, with the result that a channel now associates itself with a different logo, bearing the same original MFS id.

Something like that anyway...

[sanderton]

I hope to add the ability to the script to accept a .tar file as an argument, so you only have to upload one file. When I get a minute.

It does do some odd random associations sometimes to channels which should have no logo; I found that deleting all the logos with the deletelogos.tcl first helped, but it's worth a quick manual check.

[gyre]

Stuart, I *did* run your deletelogos first :)

Glad it's a known glitch in the tivo tho.

-- gyre --

[aerialplug]

Does deletelogos delete *all* the logos, or just the TiVoWeb ones? The reason I ask is that I still rely on one or two of the original internal logos being there (e.g. Sky Travel, Sky Box Office).

Forgive my igonrance - I haven't been able to try out the script yet as my serialPPP connection died over the weekend and I haven't been able to fix it yet.

[sanderton]

Just the TiVoweb ones. (Technically, ones with an index number of 4000 or over; the built in ones are numbered from 1; the Logos module (and my script) number from 4000. If you've overwritten an built-in one with an uploaded one it will be left intact)

[iankb]

Originally posted by sanderton
I hope to add the ability to the script to accept a .tar file as an argument, so you only have to upload one file.And for those non-Unix gurus who want to load up the complete contents of a directory with the minimum of effort, and are using command-line FTP ...ftp> prompt
ftp> mput *
ftp> promptThe prompt command toggles on and off the confirm prompt that you would normally get on each file that mput transfers. I'm assuming that you are already in the correct directories, and set to binary transfer mode.

[aerialplug]

I've fixed a couple of filename issues in version 4 and published the updated files on the page linked to in my sig. I've also updated the page which allows you to browse the logos.

The bad news is that at certain times of the day (like most afternoons, recently), Demon's home page server grinds to a halt, so if the pages aren't working for you at the moment - try later.

[pukka]

dont know if anyone can help,

bash-2.02#
bash-2.02# chmod 775 loadlogos.tcl
bash-2.02#
bash-2.02# ./loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos
bash: ./loadlogos.tcl: No such file or directory
bash-2.02#

can anyone see what i am doing wrong,

thanks

Paul

[sanderton]

Did you FTP it in ASCII mode or save it with a Windows text editor on your PC? 99% it's one of those two. FTP it again in binary.

[Prof. Yaffle]

I've just tried the loadlogos script and it worked very well. Thanks Stuart for the script and Aerialplug for the logos. One question though. I went into the Logos section of TiVoweb because approx 6 where incorrectly matched up and I noticed that Radio 1, 2, 3, and 4 didn't appear in the list even though they did previously and if I look on the TiVo the logos are matched up to them.
Any ideas?

TIA.

[Prof. Yaffle]

Nevermind. I've just tried a second reboot and strangely it's working now. I should have thought of that myself before posting. I'll change the "reasonably well" bit above to "very well" ;)

[sanderton]

When Tivoweb starts up it loads a list of channels and logos; this list is very vunerable to getting "db busy" errors with the result that some channels and/or logos go missing. A full reload should cure.

[Prof. Yaffle]

That would explain it. Thanks Stuart.

[pukka]

thanks Stuart, i did ASCII /me is a muppet :)

Thanks again

Paul

[mbriody]

Here a some logos of mine which generally aren't present in the aerialplug sets (there's a couple of dupes of my preferred logos).

Please take a look first as some are home-made and aren't that professional.

The zips contain S1 and S2 files.

Mark

[mbriody]

Here is part 1:

[mbriody]

Here is part 2 :

[mbriody]

Here is part 3:

[Pugwash]

The logos look fab. I don't know why I didn't install many before. The girlfriend is undecided but she knows nothing. :p

[aerialplug]

I'm going to be revising the logo set in the next week or so, adding a few requests I've had from friends. Does anyone have any burning desires to appear in my set that aren't there already so that I can include these in th next release? If so, post here and I'll see what I can do. :D

[mbriody]

Have you considered incorporating the non-dupes from my sets? I reckon there are between 40-50 which aren't in yours.

It would be good to have a single set.

Mark

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by mbriody
Have you considered incorporating the non-dupes from my sets? I reckon there are between 40-50 which aren't in yours.

It would be good to have a single set.

Mark

I've already drawn a few of those myself since the last release. The trouble with the ones in your zip files is that many of them assume the 256 colour pallette provided by the original TiVo logos is all available for use. I don't know what they look like on TiVo as I haven't uploaded any, but to design logos with the correct colours (no transparancies), you have to use a limited pallette to prevent bad/transparent colours being used (the logos can often have a gritty look as a result).

I'll see what I can do about filtering the logos to have only the allowed colours to be used.

I can't BELIEVE I missed out BBC World Service on my original set - my project was originally to get good looking logos for the entire BBC channel lineup - it just got a bit out of hand...!

Yes, a single set is a good idea - I'll work on it when I have time!

[mbriody]

That may be the case on some of them.

For the ones I personally created I started with an existing logo (with the correct palette) and pasted and edited images on top, so they should be okay.

Unfortunately I didn't keep track of which I created and which I picked up elsewhere.

Originally posted by aerialplug
The trouble with the ones in your zip files is that many of them assume the 256 colour pallette provided by the original TiVo logos is all available for use.

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by mbriody
That may be the case on some of them.

For the ones I personally created I started with an existing logo (with the correct palette) and pasted and edited images on top, so they should be okay.

Unfortunately I didn't keep track of which I created and which I picked up elsewhere.

That's not enough - the TiVo pallette is flawed if you do this (both type 1 and 2) in that it has many colours that don't map properly (0-16 and many of the high numbers are semi transparent and thus produce some really ugly mismatches when mixed wth the blue sky background). See a post by Mr. Tickle earlier on in this thread for a full explination and which are the dodgy colours.

I've created a pair of "filter" pallettes which allows me to design logos only using the useable colours in both the s1 and s2 logo types. It's time consuming, but works a treat. At least this way you know for sure that the colours seen on photoshop are the ones that TiVo will show (pretty much..)

I've put a couple of your logos through the filter and they convert to the filter palette well. Once I've filtered out the "bad" pallette values, I re-insert the original TiVo pallette in case som checking is done by future versions of TivoWeb.

I think you'll find that even remapping to the useable colours can make your logos look a lot more distinct. I'll look into the easiest way of parsing your logos to clean them.

[LJ]

Can I put in a request for Sky Travel (+Extra), VH1UK, Performance and BBCWS. Thanks!

[aerialplug]

Okey - the new logo set is up and can be found here (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos) (or by following the link in my sig).

What's new? - A few new logos added - mostly music/new channels with a few obscure others.

I've also included in the zip file some logos provided by mbriody that aren't covered in my own set - you'll find them in a subdirectory. I've colour corrected them so that they don't use any of the transparent colours that have caused problems in the past - but they mostly don't have the 2 pixel gap at the bottom that I've kept on all my logos for neatness.

For more details, look at the web page provided in the link.

[JeFurry]

I'd just like to thank the people who've worked on these logos - particularly Aerialplug - for all their efforts. The default TiVo channel logos leave a lot to be desired, and this is a big improvement.

What with this and Gary's flicker-free selection bar (which doesn't work everywhere, but does most of the job) my TiVo looks a great deal better than the default. Perhaps we could help divide these logos into the various channel packages people can get, so that you can, for example, simply download the Sky family pack of logos, plus the terrestrial logos, if that's all you need.

The next bit of graphical fluff I'd like to see replaced would be the crappy, glitch-ridden "Inside TiVo" stuff. It's embarrassingly bad! Any offers?

[LJ]

:up: Cool, thanks!

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by JeFurry
[B]I'd just like to thank the people who've worked on these logos - particularly Aerialplug - for all their efforts. The default TiVo channel logos leave a lot to be desired, and this is a big improvement.


Thanks also go to santerton's loadlogo script, without which, loading these logos would take a LOT longer!

[PeteEMT]

Sorry to intrude :)

I tried the Loadlogos script on a US SA1 Running 3.0 and received :

Initialising logo list
Initialising channel list
object not found (errNmNameNotFound)

while executing
"mfs find $guideindexdir/ChannelTable"
("uplevel" body line 2)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 5)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set channeltablefsid [lindex [mfs find $guideindexdir/ChannelTable] 0]
set channeltabledata [mfs get $channeltablefsid]
}"
(procedure "init_channelindex" line 55)
invoked from within
"init_channelindex"
(file "./loadlogos.tcl" line 583)

Any ideas? Most of my channel logos and even more now playing logos need to be loaded and I was hoping to use loadlogos to mass load them. I did run deletelogos first.

Edit: Fixed, edited the tcl to look for GuideIndexV2, plain GuideIndex was blank

[Prof. Yaffle]

Just wondering if anyone else has had strange goings on with their logos? I've just noticed tonight that I have logos gone missing :-

ITV News, ITV2, Cbeebies, CBBC, Radio 4, Radio 5, Radio 6, Bidup, BBC 2, Radio 1Xtra.

[aerialplug]

Yes, this does seem to happen I'm afraid. After a while, logos seem to disappear on my TiVo as well. Only the other day, I had to re-load CBBC, Cbeebies and ITV2.

Sometimes a re-boot seems to get them back, but other times the channel association seems to have gone for good and they need to be re-installed (though the logo is still there on the MSF file system).

For this reason, I keep a complete set on my var/hack directory and when a clump of logos vanish, I re-run loadlogos and reboot.

[sanderton]

If the logo is still there in MFS, the clicking Autmatically Associate Logos in TW should do the trick.

[aerialplug]

It does. That's what I do most of the time - but it's also quick to just run the script and reboot if a cluster of logos has suddenly disappeared!

[Prof. Yaffle]

I thought I was cracking up when I noticed ITV2 was missing but then I noticed more on closer inspection. It's the first time it's done it since I first added logos so it's not a great hassle.

[threadkiller]

another excellent combination of add ons, thanks guys:up: :D

[Porterx]

Originally posted by PeteEMT
Sorry to intrude :)

I tried the Loadlogos script on a US SA1 Running 3.0 and received :

Initialising logo list
Initialising channel list
object not found (errNmNameNotFound)

while executing
"mfs find $guideindexdir/ChannelTable"
("uplevel" body line 2)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 5)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set channeltablefsid [lindex [mfs find $guideindexdir/ChannelTable] 0]
set channeltabledata [mfs get $channeltablefsid]
}"
(procedure "init_channelindex" line 55)
invoked from within
"init_channelindex"
(file "./loadlogos.tcl" line 583)

Any ideas? Most of my channel logos and even more now playing logos need to be loaded and I was hoping to use loadlogos to mass load them. I did run deletelogos first.

Edit: Fixed, edited the tcl to look for GuideIndexV2, plain GuideIndex was blank

My other tivo is just like the following tivo and i don't have any logo problems with it. as far as i can tell, i've done everything the same on both tivos. I have the same problem (the same output as above when running loadlogos.tcl in a telnet session) but don't know how to do what you did in your edit. I opened loadlogos.tcl in joe editor but there was nothing about GuideIndex or GuideIndexV2 in there. Will someone please tell me how to fix this so i can get logos on my tivo. It's the same tivo as in the quoted post.

Thank you,
Porter

Edit:
If this helps, this is my tivoweb.log:

TivoWebPlus Project - v1.0
The program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This program is licensed under the GPL.
See the 'copyright' and 'README' files for copyright and credit information.
Loading modules...
favicon
index
retrying after errTmActiveLockConflict ...
info
lj_utils
logos
logs
mail
mfsbrowser
phone
resources
Loaded 89 resource definitions
sched
screen
search
theme
ui
retrying after errTmActiveLockConflict ...
webremote
whatson
Accepting Connections
Loading modules...
favicon
index
retrying after errTmActiveLockConflict ...
retrying after errTmActiveLockConflict ...
retrying after errTmActiveLockConflict ...
retrying after errTmActiveLockConflict ...
info
lj_utils
logos
logs
mail
mfsbrowser
phone
resources
Loaded 89 resource definitions
sched
screen
search
theme
ui
webremote
whatson
Accepting Connections

[aerialplug]

I've noticed that Living TV have changed their logo.

I've attached the updated logo to this post - I'll update the zip file on my logos page (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos) in the next day or so.

[adrianeaton]

Hi,

Thanks for all the work that went into the Logos it now looks much better on the now playing page. The only channel I can't seem to attach an image to is the DISCTU (discovery TopupTV). The discovery H&L TUTV I could associate in tivoweb or rename an icon and re run the script but not for disctu. It doesn't appear as a channel in tivoweb and after renaming the discovery icon the script doesn't seem to load it in. I can't remember what it says but I think it's something like image loaded but it doesn't mention the association part.

any ideas?

Adrian.

[aerialplug]

Sorry, can't help. I've got Sky and everything works fine with that setup.

[simonpoole]

I didn't know channel logo's existed until I had to unplug TiVo for a few seconds for the first time since I installed it to re-arrange the mains sockets behind the TV. When I switched TiVo back on, the BBC and Channel 4 logo's appeared in the 'Now Playing' screen! No ITV logo though!

[aerialplug]

There never was an ITV logo in the original setup. I gather the original idea was to provide logos for all TiVo "partners" which were Sky, BBC and the Flextech channels (UK Gold etc.) but TiVo decided not to continue supporting the logos.

Only the generic BBC logo was provided for all BBC channels and a few of the others left a bit to be desired - I suspect support for the logos was dropped quite early on.

The only support for logos now is the unofficial support found on this forum :)

[mattdb]

Originally posted by Porterx
My other tivo is just like the following tivo and i don't have any logo problems with it. as far as i can tell, i've done everything the same on both tivos. I have the same problem (the same output as above when running loadlogos.tcl in a telnet session) but don't know how to do what you did in your edit. I opened loadlogos.tcl in joe editor but there was nothing about GuideIndex or GuideIndexV2 in there. Will someone please tell me how to fix this so i can get logos on my tivo. It's the same tivo as in the quoted post.


Edit this part of the tcl file. And do it on your tivo from bash. Don't use windows.

set guideindexdir "/GuideIndex"

Change it to say set guideindexdir "/GuideIndexV2"

It is toward the end of the file.

Matt

[Craig Arthur]

Can anyone make up a Scottish TV logo?

I've had a stab but Tivo Web Plus rejects it (attached logo is straight from the STV website).

[aerialplug]

I'll roll one up for you - I'll need to know the callsign for the channel to give it its correct filename though.

Now that I'm here... a couple of channels are about to re-vamp their looks in the next week or so which means more new logos. Two that I know of are: Boomerang and FX289, both of which have stated that they're going to be sporting new logos.

Freeview viewers are no doubt going to want a logo for ABC1.

Now there are enough logos to produce a new zip file release, can anyone think of any other channels that have changed their logos since I last issued a set (or for that matter any new requests)?

Another thought - would anyone be interested in a separate set of logos for freeview (same logos but different callsign names)? At the moment I assume you have to rename all the logos if you wish to use sanderton's script for automatic loading?

[Craig Arthur]

Call sign is ITVSCO.

If you get the urge the graphic for ITVGRA can be obtained from www.grampiantv.co.uk they are the same design, just different text.

Cheers,

[aerialplug]

Do they use these logos as part of their onscreen design? I thought all ITV regions were moving over to the ITV brand.

Scottish already done - I'll post a zip file containing both in a few minutes.

[csansbury]

Scottish and Grampian are not part of the new ITV company. Though their idents are "integrated", they are not the same.

[Craig Arthur]

Scottish, Grampian and I think UTV use the generic ITV branding however the "paste" their own logo over the ITV1.

The only time you see the ITV1 logo during continuity/promotions is during GMTV.

For a while at launch we didn't have ITV2 we had a re-hash called S2, didn't last very long though.

[aerialplug]

Here they are. I haven't tested them yet but I'm relatively confident they'll load using TivoWeb and loadlogos and won't look too foolish as I've pallette corrected them for TiVo's limited colour set.

I'm a bit concerned that the lettering is very small on the s1 logos - this may cause interlace twitter and there's a good chance they're illegible too - I won't know for sure until I check them on my TiVo at home. If they're problematic, I'll change them. (I do know that the main ITV s1 logo twitters as well, so I may re-visit that at some point). My view is that the important logos are the s2 logos - these are the ones that appear in the Now Playing screen and make the screen look smart :)

I guess I'll now need to do Ulster TV and Channel Islands now that I realise they also differ from the corporate ITV look - in fact, I quite like UTV's bold colouring... ;)

Would I be right in assuming Ulster's call sign is ITVUTV?

[Superdon]

aerial plug,

Thanks for your work on the logos - plenty of yours reside on my TiVo!

A quick query for you, if you don't mind. I am trying to make a logo for NASN and I have taken a graphics file from their website and saved it as a PNG file (using Adope Photoshop). I have altered the file's attributes (again when using Adobe Photoshop) to match other TiVo logos. However when I use TiVo Web to upload the logo I get the "invalid file format" message, even through the file has a PNG format.

Is my method too simplistic? Or is there something else I should be doing?

Thanks for any hints.

[aerialplug]

As far as I'm aware, Tivoweb just checks the dimentions of the logo (assuming it's a .png file).

However, you have to use a specially filtered pallette as many of the colours in TiVo's pallete are semi-transparent and a large chuck don't closely resemble their PC counterparts in colour. I've created a filter that does this but it's fiddly - the whole process takes about 10 minutes for a pair of logos.

I'll do NASN for you if you like - it's on my to do list anyway as a friend has asked for it just now!

[OzSat]

Originally posted by aerialplug
Would I be right in assuming Ulster's call sign is ITVUTV? ITVULS

Need anymore?

[Superdon]

aerialplug,

If you don't mind, that would be great! NASN is the channel I TiVo the most (I love all the NFL programmes). Many thanks.

I'm still curious as to why I can't upload the files I made. If TiVo Web only looks at the dimensions, which I made sure was the same as other logos (I think got it right), why does it tell me I have an invalid file format. According to my file manager the logos are PNG format. Maybe they aren't "proper" PNG files? No doubt one of those things I will never figure out!

Just for info, I opened up a logo that does work, changed something extremely minor and saved it under a new name (just as a test). When I tried to upload the new file I again got the "invalid file format" even though it had previously worked (well, before I made a tiny alteration).

Thanks again anyway,

[Prof. Yaffle]

Yes please, ABC would be good. I'm sure there are a couple more I'm missing. I'll have a look when I get home.

[aerialplug]

Maybe the colour pallette is actually checked then - I've never really experimented with logos that don't work - I only know how to get ones to work :) Remember - the .png format is quite versatile and can store many different flavours of images - your editor may be changing something you don't realise.

Also - I do know that some versions of TivoWeb Plus rejected valid images because of a bug, but it does sound like you've managed to get previous logos to load so it's probably not that.

I'm still unsure what some of the new revamped channel logos will look like so it may be a few days before I get round to fulfilling these requests - but any reasonable suggestions here will be drawn, once I know what they look like!

[Prof. Yaffle]

Unless I've missed some I seem to be missing-

Smash Hits Radio
Kiss-FM
Heat Radio
Magic FM
Oneword Radio
Jazz-FM
Mojo Radio
Kerrang! Radio
3C Continuous Cool Country
ABC1
Ideal World (Ideal Home Shopping)
Price-Drop.tv
Community Channel
BBC Five Live Sport X
BBC Asian Network
The Hits Radio (seems to be different to the other The Hits Channel but I'm recording so I can't check)

Most of them I'm not bothered about but ABC, Kerrang and Mojo would be nice.

[aerialplug]

Anyone know where I can get a sneak preview of the FX289 and Boomerang re-branded logos (both mentioned on Digital Spy without a link to any images)?

[Benedict]

Can't help with those, but if you want some of the missing emap radio and TV logos, have a look at:

http://www.emap.com/nav?page=emap.aboutus.epn

[aerialplug]

Ok… some new logos, tried and tested, fresh out of the oven!

I haven’t gotten hold of the new FX or Boomerang logos (which started this spurt off), but there are enough new logos to make them available for others to use (and test ;) ). I’ll update the logo set as and when I get the new ones and post individual logos here to save people from having to download the entire zip file again.

As well as some new TV stations (ABC1, Community Channel, Ideal World, NASN, Price-drop.tv, Travel Channel and duplicate logos for QVC Freeview Wales and Bidup Freeview Wales), I’ve included a collection of new radio stations. I decided early on that I wouldn’t generate logos for every radio station going – that would take far too long, but I’ve decided to have logos for most of the Freeview stations (excluding regional).

I’ve also added regional variations for BBC Two. The reason for doing this and not for BBC One is that BBC2 digital is substantially different in the principalities compared to the main BBC2. In fact, I would argue that BBC2WD (the welsh version) is so different during prime time that I’d consider it a different channel altogether, with most of BBC2’s flagship programmes not being shown on the channel! For this reason, I’ve made a logo that identifies it from the main channel (both of which I watch).

All the ITV logos have been changed. I’ve added Grampian, Scottish and Ulster to the suite as they don’t use the standard ITV1 motif. I’ve also re-rendered ITV1 and ITV2 as they were looking a bit shabby.

Some other channels have changed logos in the meantime and been updated – LivingUK and Cartoon Network. Well, OK Cartoon Network hasn’t actually changed yet, but the channel has issued a press release that they’re going to sometime in the future, so I assumed they’re going to start using the same one that the American channel recently started using.

All old logos have been backed up in the “deprecated” directory on the zip file, so you can substitute those for the new ones if you liked the older ones better.

Where are they? They can all be found here (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos)! Alternatively, you can click on the link in my signature. They’re only available in the zip file at the moment – I’ll update the individual logo list when I find time (not until mid-next week at the earliest).

[Mike B]

I've just downloaded that zip file, and it doesn't seem to have the ABC1, pricedrop.tv, ITV1 Scottish or Ideal World logos in it....

(I'm not bothered about the rest, but would have like the ABC1 logo)

[yonderblue]

Aerialplug your link on your page points to version 5, Version 6 is there

http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos/aerialplug_logos_6.zip

And a big thanks to all who helped put the logos together and Aerialplug.

[Prof. Yaffle]

Thanks aerialplug! :up: My TiVo is fully logo'd up now. :D

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by yonderblue
Aerialplug your link on your page points to version 5, Version 6 is there

http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos/aerialplug_logos_6.zip

And a big thanks to all who helped put the logos together and Aerialplug.

You're absoloutely right - 's now fixed - sorry!

[6022tivo]

Do you still have to load them into tivoweb one at a time, or is there a easier way??

[iankb]

See this post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=1795023#post1795023) for another useful sanderton script.

[Superdon]

aerialplug,

Thanks for all your hard work. The logos are a great addition to my TiVo.

[csansbury]

Yup....thanks very much Arialplug!

[mrtickle]

Superb stuff :)

[aerialplug]

What foul deed is this?! :confused:

I turn on to watch an episode of The Simpsons (which TiVo assures me is a new one) only to discover that Sky One seem to have changed their logo without telling me :o

Compared to the last one ... Oh deary deary me :(. Some curved outlines for the word ONE that look like something drawn by a 5 year old with a blue crayon (no offence to 5 year olds intended...)

Anyway - attatched is a zip file containing my first attempt at Sky One's new logo. I'm sure Sky One Mix has gone down the same route, but I haven't the heart to go there tonight :(

I for one will be sticking with the old red one for my TiVo's Now Showing screen.

Oh... and in my opinion, the logo's DOG (onscreen logo) looks AWFUL - at least the last logo blended into the background when something bright was being shown - the ONE (if you can describe the random shapes as a number 1) stick out like a sore thumb on bright backgrounds now :mad: :mad:

[steveroe]

But will we get an "official" new logo to replace the old "official" one back from the days when they were "partners"?

[mrtickle]

Why the quotes? They definitely were partners! (still are?)

Just tuned to Sky 1 Mix now - it seems to have the same DOG as before.

Impressive speed getting the new Sky One logo done! I haven't decided what I'll do yet - it would be nice to be rid of the bright garish red of the current one on Now Playing. Mind you I had the Central ITV "cake" logo for ages; well after Central ceased to exist :D

[steveroe]

I put the quotes in as I wasn't sure if they were/are!

Thinking further we got new logos when the movie channels changed so I guess we should expect a new logo for sky one (although mix has always used the sky one logo as well - lazy people!)

[sanderton]

http://www.brandrepublic.com/mediabulletin/news_story.cfm?articleID=223376&Origin=MB29092004

[iankb]

And what is the likelyhood that the TiVo palette can cope with nine distinct hues? :eek:

[mrtickle]

Hmm :( If one of them is purple we're in trouble again!

[aerialplug]

Interesting article - but is this referring to the rebrand that took place earlier on this year? By the descriptions given (UK Gold being gold and UK History being green) that is exactly what happened a couple of months ago.

[pmk]

Is anyone able to help out with an ABC1 (Freeview Channel 15) logo for Now Playing?

TIA

[Prof. Yaffle]

There's one in the link in aerialplugs sig. It's in the Zip file but doesn't seem to be on the page of individual logos.

[Mike B]

There's one in the latest set of logos from aerialplug's website... (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos)


1. New TV channel logos added: ABC1, Community Channel, Ideal World...

[aerialplug]

...still only available in the .zip file as I haven't gotten round to updating the web site yet... but it's there.

[pmk]

Originally posted by Prof. Yaffle
There's one in the link in aerialplugs sig. It's in the Zip file but doesn't seem to be on the page of individual logos.

Thanks. Never thought to look at the news page have updated my URL :)

[bradleyem]

I see Bravo's changed. Anyone got a replacement logo??

TIA!
Brad

[aerialplug]

Hmmm... It hasn't changed on their web site - or on any other online source. I guess we'll have to wait until they change their online livery.

[aerialplug]

With ITV3 just round the corner, I thought I'd give the logo bag a jiggle.

Updates can be found on my logos web site (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos), or by clicking on the link in my sig file.

Changes to the previous release are:

ITV3 logo added
Sky One Mix renamed to Sky Mix
A new more distinctive Bravo S2 logo added
Updated the "download individual logos" page to show all the logos added in the 6.0 and 6.1 release.

If I've missed any recent changes or there are new channels to be added, post to this thread and I'll see what can be done.

[Mike B]

Aerialplug's logos
Release 6.1 (November 28th 2004)

aerialplug_logos_6.1.zip

A bit ahead of yourself aren't you....

:-)

[aerialplug]

Oops - wrong month - I meant to travel to next month in my tardis so that I can be really late in releasing them :D

[tefster]

Ta for the new logos. Just a heads-up though, the visible link on the main
page is updated but the HREF still points to
http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos/aerialplug_logos_6.zip

[aerialplug]

oops - I did that last time I updated. It was more confusing then as the previous file was still there. At least this time you're greeted with a broken link. I'll fix it in a minute.

[Koolvin]

good work guys

[smatson]

Help please when i run loadlogos.tcl on my tivo
i get no dir or file
can any one help please :)

thanks steven

[Koolvin]

did you chmod 755 it first?

[aerialplug]

You need to stipulate the directory where your logo images have been loaded to as part of the script's command line... but yeah, it does sound more like a Unix permissions problem. See above post!

[smatson]

Thanks yes i did chmod 755 loadlogos.tcl

and run ./loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos

no good

help please

steven :)

[aerialplug]

Very strange.

If you run /./loadlogos.tcl without any command line options, it'll simply give you basic usage instructions.

If you run it and it can't find the path you've stipulated, is says "Directory /xxx/xxx/xxx not found"

If it finds the directory, but can't find any .png files it says "No .png files found"ls

The error you mention does sound like you're trying to run the loadlogo.tcl script, but it's not there. Have you ensured you're running the script from the same directory location as your current working directory.

Failing that, try giving the full path to the loadlogo script in your execute command.

Other than this, I really don't know what's going wrong.

[SolidTechie]

I had a similar problem, make sure the file was transferred to the TiVo in binary mode....

[aerialplug]

I'm not sure whether it matters - the .tcl file is ASCII only. Whay may cause a problem however is that if you unzipped it on a PC, extra line feeds may appear in the code which causes it to fail.

The logos all need to be transferred in binary though.

[sanderton]

99% sure you transfered the file in Text/ASCII not Binary.

(For reference, bash reads the first line of a text script, which can then tell it what to use to try to run the script. For TCL that's the TCL interpreter at /tvbin/tivosh. But the DOS line ending which transferring a file in text mode adds makes that into /tvbin/tivosh^M so you get a file not found error which is referring to tvbin/tivosh^M - but Linux error messages are so vague you think that it's referring to the command name you typed).

[smatson]

Yes it was set to auto on my smart ftp set to bin and all ok now and got my

old daily mail going now dailymailjazz mem probs

thanks all

steven :)

[spid3r]

I downloaded Aerialplug's 6.1 logos and just ran sanderton's TCL script. I restarted the Tivo and it seems to have mismatched most of the small logos. I've attached a screen grab. I hope I can back it out ok with the other script otherwise this will take ages to set right. Until today I hadn't touched the logos at all.

[bradleyem]

Hmm. Worked ok for me (aside from some incorrectly named +1s and ITV3). Have you tried a reboot? I've found that when changing the images initially seem wrong (id change?) and a reboot re-initialises them.

[spid3r]

Originally posted by bradleyem
Hmm. Worked ok for me (aside from some incorrectly named +1s and ITV3). Have you tried a reboot? I've found that when changing the images initially seem wrong (id change?) and a reboot re-initialises them.

I intially did a full reboot of TivoWeb and looked at the list. I noticed there were new logos but I didn't look at it carefully. Also the ones at the top of the page are mostly ok so I probably wouldn't have noticed if some were wrong. I turned on the TV and looked at Now Playing and noticed they hadn't updated, so I rebooted the Tivo. I took another look at TivoWeb and noticed the mess they're currently in.

Since the filenames are based on the channel ids, is there a script you can run to refresh the whole lot?

[spid3r]

Done a clean install of TWP final (was on RC5) and it's fine now. So either it was a bug, or maybe I'd somehow used the Logos module from the original TW.

EDIT - Rebooted Tivo and now they're all messed up again. :(

[aerialplug]

It looks to me as if your S1 logos (the squareish ones) aren't being associated to the channels correctly for some reason. I've seen similar symptoms (but to all logos, not just one type) when I delete logos then re-load them onto the TiVo before re-doing the associations. If you use santerton's script, this is done automatically for you.

Do they come out wrong when you look at them on TiVo?

There are a couple of wrongly named logos currently in the set (ITV3 instead of ITVTHREE, which came from me using logic to predict that after ITV1 and ITV2 - surely ITV3?). Wrongly named logos won't associate with a channel using the script, but if you manually associated them using TWP, this shouldn't matter.

[spid3r]

Another reboot and it seems to be behaving itself. I tried using Firefox just to make sure it wasn't an IE caching problem. It also confirmed the problem. I noticed that if I tried to select the correct icon using TW, it then picked the wrong one for both types of icon. All very odd, but it's working now. I didn't check the smaller icons out on the Tivo itself - are they displayed in the info bar while watching live TV? I'm at work now, but will check later.

[aerialplug]

The 35x100 icons are displayed in now playing and the 65x55 icons are shown in the bar that appears on top of the screen which tells you what you're watching.

I'd forgotten about the web browser caching - this caused me a lot of problems in the early days when I was rendering all the logos - it was a real pain to get the browser to realise that the images had changed - but you're right, you'r problem didn't sound like a caching problem.

The clincher would be if they were displaying correctly on TiVo, but not on the web browser. This would definately indicate a problem with the browser and not a logo association problem within TiVo.

[Benedict]

Looks like Channel 4 have a new logo (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds17772.html) on the way for the new year.

[aerialplug]

I hope they don't use this as an excuse to put a permanent logo on Channel 4 (like they do on E4). It's not as if they haven't tried doing that beforeto Channel 4....

I wonder if they're doing a corporate re-brand for all the 4 related channels? It would make sense - all channels using the same logo in slightly different ways, sililar to ITV's blocks.

[aerialplug]

Does anyone have any more sources for what the new Channel 4 logo set will look like? I've seen several mentions on Digital Spy of people having seen what the onscreen bumpers look like, though these may be internal press showings.

The only source I've seen so far is the one here (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds17772.html). I've had a first stab at rendering this (I'ts harder to get it look good onscreen than I thought) but it would be nice to see how this relates to the rest of the Four family.

Personally, I quite like the new logo's design - they kept the original "blocks" theme but added a new "edge" to it. As I've previously mentioned, I just hope they don't use this rebrand as an excuse to stick a DOG in the corner of Channel 4 (I watch precious little of E4 because of the blob in the corner).

Once I've seen what the onscreen and online presence of this logo looks like, I'll post new versions of the C4 logos here.

[aerialplug]

Okey, here's the new Channel 4 logo.

One thing's for sure - it may look snappy and 21st century, but it sure doesn't scale down too well. The S1 version looks OK, but the S2 logo looks like some snow has settled on the logo.

I've tried several different variations - the S2 logo I finally decided that looked best is actually a modified design on the original 4 logo that came with TiVo - I've simply replaced the old 4 logo with the new "shadow" version (though as you'll see, it really does look like snow has settled on it rather than give it the shadow effect!)

In the next week or so, I'll consolidate all the logos into a new release, which will then appear on the web link in my sig file.

[steford]

I notice that all the logos are 3k or less. Is there a max file size as 2 I just made are 5 and 6k? Are there any issues at all in using these?

Thanks for all the hard work to all involved in script and logo production. Nice job.

[aerialplug]

Nope - there's a VERY specific PNG colour palette needed - and there are two sizes (65x55 for S1 type logos, the ones that appear in the banner on top of the screen and 100x35 for S2 logos which are used on the Now Playing screen) All these factors limit the size of the logo's file.

As far as the pallete is concerned - many of the colours found on the final palette when viewed in a normal graphics editor can't be used as TiVo treats many of the values as semi transparent (and indeed in some cases a completely different colour).

[ericd121]

Originally posted by aerialplug
there's a VERY specific PNG colour palette needed

As far as the pallete is concerned - many of the colours found on the final palette when viewed in a normal graphics editor can't be used as TiVo treats many of the values as semi transparent (and indeed in some cases a completely different colour). Ah, that would explain why I singularly failed to make the magenta transparent in the single tick icon, as seen via TiVoWeb.

Any clues as to how to make magenta transparent in TiVoWeb without screwing it up on the telly?

I was using Fireworks, trying alpha and index transparency, but nothing worked.:confused:

[aerialplug]

The colour palette has 256 colours in it - value 0 is transparent for TiVo regardless of what you chose in your colour editor. In fact, TiVo completely ignores the PNG's alpha and index levels as it has a pre-set palette.

The tick's transparency value hasn't been set in its PNG file - but TiVo still makes it transparent because palette value 0 is magenta.

To make it transparent on TivoWeb, ensure that the magenta (value 0) is set to transparent. Relatively straight forward to do in Paintshop Pro - never used Fireworks.

I've never bothered trying to do this - can the tick icon be easily replaced using TivoWeb? It was my understanding that the tick is treated differently to channel logos and can't be changed/deleted.

[steford]

Thanks for that. Realised I'd used 24bit and not 8bit so that knocked the sizes down and allowed upload via TivoWeb. However the logos I made look awful on the Tivo itself - like coloured TV interference. I'll take a look at this colour palette thing tonight.

Thanks again.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by aerialplug
I've never bothered trying to do this - can the tick icon be easily replaced using TivoWeb? It was my understanding that the tick is treated differently to channel logos and can't be changed/deleted. Oh, Hellfire!

You're right. I thought I'd ftp'd it over when I must have saved it from the webpage.

Oh, well, I'll have to live with a bright magenta square in my azure webpage. :(

[aerialplug]

The coloured interferance is caused by all the illegal colours that have been allocated to allow TiVo to nicely antialias its text against the blue background using partial transparencies.

I have two masking Paintshop Pro palettes for the S1 and S2 where I've converted all the "illegal" colours to cyan. I draw the logo using these palettes ensuring that none of the cyan characters are used. This only falls appart when cyan is needed in the logo - I then use a different masking colour - green! The case hasn't happened yet where a logo has both green and purple as a requirement!

I then convert back to the original TiVo colours, using the Maintain Indexes option to ensure none of the colours get re-alocated - I'm not sure if this makes any difference actually, but I do it just in case.

These logos now look good on a PC and also maintain their likeness on TiVo. The biggest problem is that the S2 logo palette makes the colour purple very difficult to render as it isn't found in the valid colour set!

[Olly]

I have just installed these excellent channel logos. A fantastic effort.

Apologies if this has been discussed already but all my ITV Granada recordings are now labelled as Grampian. I guess I just need to copy one of the other ITV1 logos over the ITVGRA one. Oh and the ITV3 ones should be named ITVTHREE.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by Olly
Oh and the ITV3 ones should be named ITVTHREE. According to ITV3 (http://www.itv.com/page.asp?partid=2366), http://www.itv.com/uploads/images/1098945841937_0.7806624353148664.gif is the correct spelling. ;)

[aerialplug]

I pubished the ITV3 logo name before the channel actually appeared on TiVo. I logically thought that ITV1 and ITV2 had been used to identify those respective channels so the same scheme would be used for ITV3 - I was wrong....

Can someone please inform me the correct codes for Grampian TV. Obviously ITV1GRA corresponds to Granada, not Grampian. I'll fix this when I find out what the code for the other channel is.

While I'm at it - has anyone noticed any logo changes/new chanels that are worth updating in the logo set. Despite promises of the new Cartoon Network brand going international last year on the American web site, I've seen no sign of it changing so I'll change that back to the old one in the next issue as well.

[csansbury]

Grampian TV is ITVGMP

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by csansbury
Grampian TV is ITVGMP

Thanks.

[steford]

aerialplug - any chance I could get hold of thos palettes as I'm trying to make a JSTV logo for the RF input I have from my sat box - however making my own logo and copying colours directly from your logos has failed so far. Any tips? Thanks.

[aerialplug]

It's a little more complicated than just providing the palette. I'm going to be putting a detailed how-to guide along with the palettes I use on the web site iminently - I'll post here when it's ready.

In the meantime, find JSTV logos attached.

[aerialplug]

Ok - a quick guide as to how to "roll your own" logos has been put on the web site.

Click here (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos/rollyourown.html) for details. It's a bit rough and ready at the moment and may contain errors - I'll correct them as and when I find them.

[steford]

Wow - thanks mate. Really nice of you. Can show off to the wife (Japanese) with these. Thanks again.

[Olly]

BBC2WAL needs to be a copy of BBC2WD. S4C is another one that needs "plug"ing (sorry about that!).

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by Olly
BBC2WAL needs to be a copy of BBC2WD. S4C is another one that needs "plug"ing (sorry about that!).

As a Weshman stranded in a foreign land - I'll strive to get this incorprorated into the next release!

[aerialplug]

[aerialplug]

It seems that Discovery Travel & Adventure has become a bit of a wimp and lost it's adventurous edge - it's been renamed now as merely the "Discovery Travel & People" channel!

Obviously this meant a change to the logo, and since several logos have changed since my last zip file issue - version 6.2 of the entire logo set is now available on the web site (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos) .

Changes are basically:
New Sky One logo
New Channel 4 logo
new JSTV logo
new S4C analogue logo
new Discovery & People logo
sorted out the ITV Grampian and ITV Granada logos
Reverted to old Cartoon Network logo as the promised new one never materialised.

The main page now also includes a link to a "roll your own logo" section, if you're adventerous enough to have a go at creating your own:D

Personal comment... the new permanent on-screen logo for Discovery Travel & People channel really sucks - semi-transparent purple oblong with the channel name on it (like the one in the logo set). Travel & Adventure logo was much more discreet. Makes me want to remove the channel from my "Channels I Watch" list...

[pahunt]

Nice work :)

One very minor issue is that UKTV People +1 doesn't seem to have a logo linked to it automatically. It's not much work to link the standard UKTV People one manually but just thought I would mention it.

[CarlWalters]

Originally posted by aerialplug
version 6.2 of the entire logo set is now available on the web site (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos)


cracking stuff :D and well worth a mention in my new sig :)

[6022tivo]

After I have ran the TCL to load the logos, is it then safe to delete the logo directory from car/hack??

[pahunt]

Originally posted by 6022tivo
After I have ran the TCL to load the logos, is it then safe to delete the logo directory from car/hack??

Yes it is as loadlogos.tcl loads them into the MFS database.

[Prof. Yaffle]

Hmmm.... not sure if it's just me but I think there must have been an update by TiVo to the default logos as all of my custom logos are gone today. :(

[pahunt]

Well I can't check on my Tivo to see if mine are still there at the moment, but the last time we got a logo update it was a significant enough event for a Tivo employee to post in the UK forum :eek:

http://archive.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=1587182#post1587182

So it would be surprising if they have done anything

[Prof. Yaffle]

I'm 99% sure there was a more recent update than that. I remember all my logos being wiped not long after I'd manually set them because of a Sky logo update even though I have Freeview. It was the first chance I had to try Stuart's logo script

[Prof. Yaffle]

It's either that or time really does fly! :eek:

[pahunt]

You may be right, the movies one was the last one I remember but I don't pretend to be infallible :D

How long since your Tivo last rebooted? I presume it has rebooted today otherwise you wouldn't have seen any logo changes, but I wonder how long it was up for before that. What I am getting at is that maybe something happened a little while ago but the recent reboot has only just brought it to light.

[Prof. Yaffle]

It was rebooted less than 24 hours previously because I'd updated to the new C4 logo from Aerialplug which is what caused me to notice they'd gone. I also rebooted after that when I updated one of the TiVoweb modules which must have been when they disappeared. First I noticed that the new C4 logo was back to the old one, and then as I looked down Now Playing I noticed all of the custom ones where missing.

[kitschcamp]

Yup, the download today seems to have "done" my logos in, too.

[lenwuk]

TiVo not rebooted for 17 days but my customised logos have gone from the Now Playing list . . . :(

[pahunt]

So that seems to imply that there's some way of refreshing the logo database without rebooting. Be nice if someone could find out how to do it in loadlogos.tcl

[aerialplug]

I logged in earlier to see that all the logos have been disappearing on people's TiVos.

I looked at mine - they were all still there, but I only did a download at 1:47am this morning so I started a download myself.

Boy - a doozey of a download - a weekday download barely goes over 5 minutes. Even a weekend is about 10 minutes. This one was 20 minutes - my guess is that the entire database was updated for some reason. This explains why I had quite a time trying to get a line for a download.

I'm currently waiting for the data to finish processing (and yes, all my logos disappeared about half way through data processing) to do a complete reload using Stuart's scripts.

The strange thing is - I can still see the logos and their associations in TivoWeb... I'm guessing this is because Tivoweb loads the logos in on boot...

[teresatt]

I've just run the loadlogos script and now I don't have any logos at all, not even the original ones.

My Now Playing list looks so bare now. How do we get our logos back?

[pahunt]

You need to reboot Tivo after you've run the script before you'll see them

[teresatt]

Silly me. I'll have to wait now as TiVo is busy recording.

[aerialplug]

As expected (and mentioned already here) you're going to have to re-run loadlogos to re-associate all the logos with their channels. I've no idea what the enormous download last night was about though. It took 19 minutes to download the data and an hour and a half to process it. It felt pretty much like an entire database download, including all the channels being re-established.

Nothing seems to have changed other than a few new channels and one being deleted (a normal Sky day). I can't find any new Tivo downloaded logos so I guess it wasn't about that.

I found time between commercial breaks on CSI to get everything back shipshape.

[iankb]

I've no idea what the enormous download last night was about though.The dwindling ITV data before that update might explain it. Apart from anything else, it added another week of data back in. Maybe their database synchronisation had become corrupt, and had to be reset.

[Benedict]

It seems that newly associated logos no longer require a reboot before they can be displayed.

After updating my logo associations today on both my TiVo's I went to reboot them, but discovered the logos were already visible in Now Playing.

[teresatt]

I had the opposite experience. I had to reboot in order to see them.

[pahunt]

I ran loadlogos.tcl after I lost the logos and I haven't had a chance to reboot yet and I still haven't got any logos on screen.

[aerialplug]

It seems that newly associated logos no longer require a reboot before they can be displayed.

After updating my logo associations today on both my TiVo's I went to reboot them, but discovered the logos were already visible in Now Playing.

I had to reboot to see the new logos.

What you may be experiencing is the old associations being used. If the logos were read in exactly the same order, there's a good chance they'll match up. However, you may be risking the odd logo being wrongly matched. It's probably safer to run loadlogos again.

[Benedict]

I had to reboot to see the new logos.

What you may be experiencing is the old associations being used. If the logos were read in exactly the same order, there's a good chance they'll match up. However, you may be risking the odd logo being wrongly
matched. It's probably safer to run loadlogos again.
I actually matched a few manually fisrt using TiVoWeb which is when I first noticed they were visible.

I thne use the "automatically associate" funtion in TiVoWeb to do most of the rest, and manually associated any that were left.

All were visible without a reboot

[buzz174]

Has anyone had problems with TiVoWeb repeatedly crashing when trying to display a large number of custom uploaded logos? I have designed and uploaded logos for all of the freeview channels, and got them all working pretty well, but when changing or deleting them (in fact, any process where a large number of them are displayed in the browser) it frequently crashes, requiring a bash prompt / manual restart. Obviously I'd rather avoid this - with a cachecard fitted, each reboot takes some time!

This seems to happen using both Firefox and IE, so I can't see it being browser problem...

Is there something wrong with TiVoWeb that I can fix, or is there a way of rescuing it, or restarting TiVoWeb without rebooting TiVo?

[aerialplug]

I've never had any problems with my logo set and I've got a logo for any channel on Sky digital that I'm likely to ever get recorded for me.

The only occasional problem I get is that sometimes a logo will appear as a broken image. Reload image solves this.

[buzz174]

Do you use TiVoWeb or TWP?

Mine definitely crashes. Reload doesn't work , and none of the other menu options can be accessed until the whole thing is restarted.

[aerialplug]

Ok, I've just checked - I'm using TWP 1.0. I decided to change a while ago as it seemed more stable and had some of the enhancements I'd installed as part of TW as standard.

[CarlWalters]

I've just noticed that my logos have gone too :( Not to worry I thought I'll just re-run the loadlogos.tcl and all will be good. But I'm at work at the moment and can only see my TiVo with TiVoWeb - can I run loadlogos via TiVoWeb? I though it might be possible to use the shell command box in HackMan but that doesn't seem to work as I expect. I started off with something simple - just typing "ls" into the shell command box and hitting "execute command" but I get an error message "/bin/bash: ls: command not found". I know ls is on my TiVo so am I doing anything stupid. Or is there another way to get loadlogos to run from here?

[aerialplug]

I haven't tried the hackman module but the only thing I can suggest is to check to see if ls (and other scripts) are in your path. Try using the full path for your ls command. Also, use the full path for loadlogos and for the directory in which the logos are stored.

[shanew]

I don't think HackMan loads the PATH variables which are in your profile so as aerialplus suggested, use the full paths, i.e. if loadlogos.tcl is in /var/hack/bin and the logo images are in /var/hack/logos run the following command from hackman:

/var/hack/bin/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos

[pdowland]

I did a whole bunch of mods to my TiVo last night... I love this forum

Finally upgraded my hard disk to 200GB (disk-disk on the fly copy including recordings) in about 1 hour! Worked perfectly.

Then added endpad, now showing with folders etc. then tried to add new logos.

The link for load logos (attachmentid=3504) doesn't seem to work at the moment... is the download no longer available? I've done google searches for the filename but only found links back to here.

Anyone know when the link will be available again or have another working link?

Thanks,

Paul.

[CarlWalters]

I don't think HackMan loads the PATH variables which are in your profile so as aerialplus suggested, use the full paths, i.e. if loadlogos.tcl is in /var/hack/bin and the logo images are in /var/hack/logos run the following command from hackman:

/var/hack/bin/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos


Nope. Hackman doesn't load the PATH variables. But something like you suggested
/var/hack/bin/loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos

works a treat :). Have to remember to reboot TiVo - with HackMan - to get them back in the TiVo screens though.

[aerialplug]

The link for load logos (attachmentid=3504) doesn't seem to work at the moment... is the download no longer available? I've done google searches for the filename but only found links back to here.

Try going to my web site for the logos (link in my signature). There you'll find a link towards the bottom of the front page to the post in the forum where loadlogos is listed. It worked for me just now, so it's still there.

[iankb]

There does seem to be a problem with downloading some attachments. I tried to access the zip file of tivoweb themes pointed to by my signature, and find that to be failing. Hopefully, it is a temporary failure; otherwise I will have to re-add the attachment.

[pdowland]

Thanks for the suggestion...

Try going to my web site for the logos (link in my signature). There you'll find a link towards the bottom of the front page to the post in the forum where loadlogos is listed. It worked for me just now, so it's still there.

Just tried it again but it still refused the link - resource not found :( I downloaded lots of other attachments from here, but this one doesn't work at the moment, even tried it on 3 different PCs!

[aerialplug]

I tried it again just now... right clicking and downloading Stuart's script worked fine.

(IE & Firefox)

[CarlWalters]

hmmm ... I've just installed the AerialPLug's latest logoset (v6.2) using Sanderton's loadlogos.tcl. Did it last night at home and checked that there wer some new logos showing in TiVoWeb. This morning I came into work to an email from SWMBO saying that TiVoWeb was broken. And for once she's right :) Clicking on UserInterFace->ChannelGuide->All->ChannelName gives this error message


INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
--cut here--
action_channel '/6706' ''
can't read "cache_sp_key": no such variable
while executing
"llength $cache_sp_key"
(procedure "::action_channel" line 32)
invoked from within
"::action_$action $chan $part $env"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval {::action_$action $chan $part $env}"
--cut here--


and then going ViewUpComingListings->Date->Programme gets a further error


INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
--cut here--
action_series '/95786' ''
can't read "nowshowingdir": no such variable
while executing
"ForeachMfsFile fsid name type $nowshowingdir "" {
if {[catch [do_seriesrow $chan $fsid $objectid 1] error]} {
puts "do_seriesrow $fsid $objectid ..."
(procedure "::action_series" line 34)
invoked from within
"::action_$action $chan $part $env"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval {::action_$action $chan $part $env}"
--cut here--


I wonder what I've done wrong? TiVo Reboot doesn't seem to help.

[pdowland]

I tried it again just now... right clicking and downloading Stuart's script worked fine.

<sheepish grin>... I've right-clicked and used "save target as"... works fine!

On every other link I followed, I just clicked and IE prompted me to save the file, for some reason this one would not let me download it. I've retried again today, just clicking on the link and it still fails. However, when right-clicking it works fine. Hmmm, something is broken somewhere, but I've got the file now so am not going to worry about it.

Many thanks for all suggestions :D custome logos here I come - let's just hope I don't kill TiVoWeb in the process...

[iankb]

On every other link I followed, I just clicked and IE prompted me to save the file, for some reason this one would not let me download it. I've retried again today, just clicking on the link and it still fails. However, when right-clicking it works fine. Hmmm, something is broken somewhere, but I've got the file now so am not going to worry about it.It looks like there is a definite problem with some users and the new forum software. See this thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=226643). As you say, right-mouse click works.

[ericd121]

Both my TiVos lost their BBC2 logo over the weekend (which was easily re-attached in TiVoWeb).

Anyone else? :confused:

I also got Carl's ChannelName INTERNAL SERVER ERROR

Mine was cured by a Full Reload of TiVoWeb.

[aerialplug]

I lost my BBC One logo sometime between Saturday night and Sunday morning - the first time this has happened for some time. It went back to the generic BBC logo.

As you say, I ran loadlogos and rebooted (all the logos vanished before the reboot).

[kitschcamp]

Yeah, same here, though curiously not the BBC Wales, Scotland or Ireland version in the 900s.

[shanew]

Both my TiVos lost their BBC2 logo over the weekend (which was easily re-attached in TiVoWeb).

Anyone else? :confused:


Yep, this happened to me too. :confused:

[mrtickle]

Yes, I lost my BBC2 logo. My tivo must be punishing me for past comments criticising its lack of purple in the palette!

[aerialplug]

I guess I probably lost my BBC2 logo too then and I probably didn't have any in my current Now Showing list to notice.

[Prof. Yaffle]

Yeap, same here. BBC1 and BBC2 both missing :(

[Benedict]

I guess losing BBC1 will depend on which region you receive. BBC1NTH was unaffected on both my machines (as were BBC1 Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

I did lose BBC2 on both my TiVos, and as I posted a couple of weeks ago I was able to re-associate the correct logo in TiVoWeb and it was automatically diaplayed without having to reboot.

[ericd121]

I did lose BBC2 on both my TiVos, and as I posted a couple of weeks ago I was able to re-associate the correct logo in TiVoWeb and it was automatically diaplayed without having to reboot.Yes, I didn't need to reboot, either, which is nice. :p

[goodisonboy]

aerialplug, I couldn't resist the urge to roll my own and the first attempts appeared to work so thought I'd share some Logos we were missing:

JETIXUK, PREMPLUS & FRM.

I've loaded these on but havent had chance to check the PRMPLUS yet but the other two showed up okay. possibly not up the same standard of some yours but better than nothing was my logic..

Hope someone finds a use for them and a very useful guide on how to do it.. Thanks

[aerialplug]

They look fine to me. They use the correct colour palettes and don't have any horizontal lines that are only one pixel in width (this causes the horrible twitter we see on the selection bar unless you've corrected it with the hack).

[etrigan]

In the interests of completeness of Aerialplug's logo collection, I've duplicated some of his logos and renamed them to cover gaps in his current set.

I've copied and renamed REALITY to REAL1, UKG2 to UKG2P1, UKTVDOC to UKDOC1, UKTVPPL to UKTVP1, SKYTRVD to SKYTR1 and CHALL to CHALL1

This covers the +1 hour channels for all those base channels.

Zipfile attached to this message. Hopefully Aerialplug will drop these into his master set.

[B33K34]

as usual i expect i'm missing something obvious but i cant get this to run.

i've copied all the logos and the loadlogos script to /var/hack/logos. I've chmoded the loadlogos script and made sure it's executable. However, the command
./loadlogos.tcl /var/hack/logos gives me ./loadlogos.tcl: No such file or directory

??

[Mike B]

When I did this, I put all the logos into /var/hack/logos and the put the loadlogos.tcl script in /var/hack. Are you trying to execute the script when you're in /var/hack, or have you put the script in /var/hack and are trying to run it from /var/hack/logos? (a 'pwd' will tell you where you are)

Try entering the full path to the command and tab-completing. Eg, type /var/hack/load and then hit <tab> to complete the word - if it won't complete, then you're looking in the wrong place.

[aerialplug]

This is also a symptom of the file having been uncompressed on a Windows machine. Windows text files have new line AND line feed at the end of each line. Unfortunately, one of these characters causes the first line of the script to misread.

#!/bin/bash

This line in the script states which shell to be used. When I edit the Windows affected files using vi, I see:

#!/bin/bash^M

The interpreter's not clever enough to realise that the ^M represents one of the Windows characters and tries to find the bash^M application - which fails.

I'm not too sure how to get round this easily short of decompressing the files on TiVo. I use vi to get rid of the trailing escape character, but I very much doubt you'd have that installed yourself as I had quite a bit of trouble finding it and getting it to work myself - and vi isn't the most intuitive text editor at the best of times...

[sanderton]

Decompressing on PC is fine, so long as you don't edit-and-save, and you must FTP the file in binary mode.

[aerialplug]

It's the FTP in binary mode that I forget to do occasionally when sending stuff to TiVo. Until recently, I never realised that FTP in non-binary automatically added the ^M - and I've been using FTP since 1987 :o

Getting rid of the extra character in vi is easy - you simply type :1,$s/^M//g
(the ^M is achieved by pressing CRTL-V followed by CTRL-M, and the g at the end is probably not really needed as there'll only be one ^M on every line)

Now you probably understand why, although VI is an incredibly powerful text editor, the berevity and cryptiveness of the commands make some people feel that it's a bit formidable. It's better to transfer the files over correctly in the first place ;)

[B33K34]

Then that doesn't explain why i couldn't get the script to work. I've now manually assigned 1-5, ITV and History channel which just about covers what i watch.

WAF was high. "That's new!, nice" was heard as soon as Now Playing came up for the first time.

[sanderton]

Your script was 99% definitely DOS-ending corrupted; that's the error message you get from that.

[partypeople]

Is there a tivo logo for the radio station Capital Disney available?

If so, where can I find it?

Many thanks

M

[aerialplug]

Is there a tivo logo for the radio station Capital Disney available?

If so, where can I find it?

There is now - you can find it here ;) :cool:

[etrigan]

If you're taking requests, :p any chance of a logo for:

Living 2
UK Style Gardens

Thanks! ;)

[aerialplug]

Done - I'll include them in a new release I'm compiling. I've added about 15 new logos to the set now including some of the sports channels currently not covered and some extra children's channels. I'll drop a line here when they're ready (I messed up on the transparency of a couple and have to re-do them).

[partypeople]

Unfortunately, the link doesn't seem to be working forme. I'll try again later.

Thank you in advance!

M

[aerialplug]

Lots of new channel logos for you! :up:

Mostly a few children's channels, some sports channels, some +1 channels added and of course the requests that are listed above.

I haven't tested many of these so any feedback would be appreciated.

For a list of channels affected go here (http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/tivo/logos) - or follow the link in the signature below. The new logos are currently only represented in the zip file at the top of the page.

As to the link not working, I believe this is an ongoing issue. The link does work, but now only on some browsers since the forum software was upgraded.

[gyre]

Aeriaplug... just gotta say thanks for doing this time after time. Way useful man!

Just wondering how others get their logos uploaded OK to the tivo. Here is what I do...

ftp the .zip file across.

unzip with a tivo series one compiled unzip program.

Run sanderton's deletelogos.tcl

Run sanderton's addlogos.tcl giving it the name of the directory just created by doing the unzip.

Mostly, that works great. I see one or two glitches where the wrong logo has been associated with a given channel or not accociated at all.

Any ideas why it might be going slightly wrong?

Thanks!

-- gyre --

[aerialplug]

That's almost identical to what I do except I don't unzip on the TiVo, I transfer all the files separately using FTP.

I've never seen logos get associated with wrong channels, but I do concede that I may have made errors in the call sign filename for some of the channels I don't watch myself.

[XandertI]

Does anyone have a TiVo logo for Fashion TV, now that this channel is back on Sky?

Thanks in advance.

[aerialplug]

I drew one once - I don't know why it's not in the standard distro - I'll see what I can do.

[lcsneil]

That's almost identical to what I do except I don't unzip on the TiVo, I transfer all the files separately using FTP.

I've never seen logos get associated with wrong channels, but I do concede that I may have made errors in the call sign filename for some of the channels I don't watch myself.

I found it didn't always associate properly if you didn't clear out all the old logos and I even had to do some manually via Tivoweb that were really old.

AP - Am I imagining it or has the Film4 logo disappeared from your pack?

(Or did I get that from somewhere else originally and have deleted it?)


Neil

[aerialplug]

Yes, I've always deleted all logos before loading new ones - never bother trying to see what happens if you don't, to be honest.

I've never supplied a Film Four logo as there was a perfectly adequate one provided in the 2.5.2 logo set (probaby about the only one I still relied on from the original batch after Sky changed from the one with the red background, with the exception of Sky sports and Sky Box Office, something I would never see anyway).

[lcsneil]

Oops - where are the original set kept then as I think I might have deleted it!

:eek:

Neil

[lcsneil]

No seriously - are the standard 2.5.2 logo set stored any where else on the Tivo so that I can re-install them?

Neil

[aerialplug]

I think that if you managed to delete one, it's gone. There isn't a "spare" stored in the TiVo. I must admit I've never tried deleting the tivo stock logos though. deletelogos treats these as special cases and leaves them alone.

[lcsneil]

Where are they stored on a 'virgin' machine then?

I haven't touched Tivo 2 in terms of Logos so in theiry should be able to rescue them off there??


Neil

[aerialplug]

They're stored in the same place, but all the official logos have been given resource IDs less than something like 200,000 so a check can easily be made to see if a virgin logo or an added logo is being deleted.

You can see their locations using TivoWeb in the following location:
http://tivo/mfs/Resource/Image along with all the other images that TiVo uses including the screen display images. Many of the images there are never displayed on a UK TiVo and some are even for a DirectTV.

Some icons are intreaguing - one's a "Paid Suggestion" - I wonder what that is?

[GarySargent]

Some icons are intreaguing - one's a "Paid Suggestion" - I wonder what that is?


Don't start the conspiracy theory lot off! :)

[steveroe]

Some icons are intreaguing - one's a "Paid Suggestion" - I wonder what that is?

Eek!! "Dossa and Joe" alert :p :p

[aerialplug]

Ok, a couple of new logos for some new channels plus a few that have changed slightly. I've attached the logos in the zip file - they'll be included in the next distribution.

New channels: Matinee Movies, Bad Movies (though TiVo has no schedule info for these as yet), Film Four+1 and Film Four Weekly

Rebrand: Dicovery Home & Lesiure has become Discovery Real Life. I've given it a new call sign for now DREAL but TiVo still thinks its DHL & DHL1

New Logos for existing channels: FilmFour (subtly different from the original).

Enjoy.

[OzSat]

Rebrand: Dicovery Home & Lesiure has become Discovery Real Life. I've given it a new call sign for now DREAL but TiVo still thinks its DHL & DHL1Do you mean 'Discovery Real Time' which TiVo now calls DISCRT (and DISCRT1)?

[aerialplug]

I'm posting this tonight to see if channel logos vanishing is something that "just happens randomly" or whether it's something that affects more than one person at the same time.

Occasionally, I've had to re-load my logos as they go missing - they either go blank or revert back to their original incarnations. This has happened today to several channels at the same time and I was wondering if I'm alone or whether it's something that can be attributed to today's daily load.

Yes, there are specific occasions in the past when the whole gang lot reset for everyone, but what I'm seeing tonight is a subset having reset...

Specifically, BBC One and BBC Two (Sky Digital, South East region) have reverted back to the boring old bland BBC logo. ITV 2 (again) has vanished, as has Challenge and Animal Planet (but not Animal Planet+1). I'm sure there are others also, but those are the ones I've spotted tonight (and they were all there this momrning, and I haven't re-booted today).

Anyone else had this experience today (Sunday 5th June)? I'd be interesting to know either way...

[pmk]

Yes this has happened to me yesterday and today. Channels that needed their logo selecting again were ITV2/3, FTN, CBBC, BBC3 for me. There may be others but until it records a programme of the channel I will not notice. HTH.

[iankb]

Discovery Travel, UK Drama, BBC 4, and News 24 have disappeared or reverted on mine today. It looks like there is a common problem.

They are stiil associated correctly in Tivoweb, but are incorrect on my TiVo menus. I will try a reboot, but it is currently recording.

[aerialplug]

Phew - it's not an individual thing then :-)

I've since checked and pretty much all BBC TV logos have reverted to the original (but not radio). Since I last posted, ITV3 is confirmed as a gonner too.

In fact... all the channels that reverted were ones that potentially had an agreement to have logos on TiVo originally (BBC, UKTV) with the exception of ITV2/3 which is probably the most often to vanish for me. Puzzling.

I've now reset back to my latest distro so I can't tell if anything else has gone. It was too uppsetting to see the "holes" ;-)

[LJ]

A similar set seem to gone on mine too today.

Just reloaded from the v7 zip file and have got a few blanks left - are there logos available for these ones? Thanks.

DISCRT Discovery Real Time (and the +1)
TRAVP1 Travel Channel +1
DISCHH Discovery Home & Health (and the +1)

[bradleyem]

Pretty much all of mine vanished - BBC went back to generic for some except for BBC 1, discovery and hallmark stayed.

[iankb]

They are stiil associated correctly in Tivoweb, but are incorrect on my TiVo menus. I will try a reboot, but it is currently recording.Rebooted, it didn't improve, and now Tivoweb shows them incorrectly. Obviously, I was originally picking up an old cache in Tivoweb.

[kitschcamp]

Specifically, BBC One and BBC Two (Sky Digital, South East region) have reverted back to the boring old bland BBC logo. ITV 2 (again) has vanished, as has Challenge and Animal Planet (but not Animal Planet+1). I'm sure there are others also, but those are the ones I've spotted tonight (and they were all there this momrning, and I haven't re-booted today).

Yup, the same, plus Living, Living+1, Living2, Sky Travel and Discovery Channel (but not +1) and the UKTV suite other than UK Gold.

[csansbury]

It's happened to me over tha last few days. I've noticed Living and UKTV channels.

[Heuer]

Same here. Any ideas why this is happening and any chance of an auto reload script on reboot?

[aerialplug]

Same here. Any ideas why this is happening and any chance of an auto reload script on reboot?

The trouble with doing it on a reboot is that you need to reboot for the changes to take place, so if the logos were re-loaded every time the system wa rebooted, you'd then need to reboot to see the logos, by which time the system has tried to load the logos again for which you need to reboot to....

Plus, loading the logos is quite a demanding process, which causes my TiVo to stutter quite badly while the database is being hammered as the logos go in. I wouldn't be happy with that happening for a few minutes after every time I rebooted.

[iankb]

The trouble with doing it on a reboot is that you need to reboot for the changes to take place ...I've found that, where the logos have been previously associated, you don't seem to need a reboot to see them again. You just need to re-associate them. And re-association is much quicker than a reboot with a cachecard installed.

[6022tivo]

Well off topic, but thinking of upgrading to a cache card soon, how long would you say it takes to book and cache the 512M??

[iankb]

... how long would you say it takes to book and cache the 512M??If you meant 'boot', then I would guess around 4 minutes. Older drivers used to take longer.

[Heuer]

I've found that, where the logos have been previously associated, you don't seem to need a reboot to see them again. You just need to re-associate them. And re-association is much quicker than a reboot with a cachecard installed.

I tried re-associating mine with TiVoWeb and then using Sanderton's loadlogos.tcl - both needed a reboot to get them to display. Kinda answers my own question as Aerialplug pointed out!

Reboot with Cachecard takes about 90 seconds for each of the read, write, verify operations. At least there is a progress bar to keep you amused.

[iankb]

I tried re-associating mine with TiVoWeb and then using Sanderton's loadlogos.tcl - both needed a reboot to get them to display.Strange that. I had rebooted prior to re-associating them, but I definitely didn't need a reboot to see them. I used the 'Automatically Associate Logos' option in Tivoweb, followed by a few manual associations.

Reboot with Cachecard takes about 90 seconds for each of the read, write, verify operations.Using the latest drivers (18 Feb 2005), the write and verify passes are significantly faster than the cache pass. Probably around 20-30 seconds each.