View Full Version : Success Adding (and replacing) drives to Pioneer TiVo/DVD
Pisser
01-26-2005, 01:55 PM
I upgraded my 810 (300g) with no problems about a month ago and reported on the tivo side that I had 342 hours available in crappy mode and 60 (I think, maybe 80) in fine mode. Well after a month of recording, I have about 40 hours of material and tried to "keep until I delete" on a recording and tivo responded back saying you do not have enough space. Anybody here of this? I originally used the hinsdale guide then ran sleepers iso for the hacks. Wonder if the sleepers did something.
Also, running a tcd540 and installed a 300g, that model is saying I have 93 hours in fine mode. Why is the 810 showing such a difference in recording times? Thanks...
yekim
01-26-2005, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by JamieP
...You can redirect output to a file via: "mfsinfo > /mnt/mfsinfo.txt", if you have a writable file system (e.g. your fat drive) mounted on /mnt....
Well maybe its a NOOB mistake, but when I did the upgrade a few months ago I had the backup image stored on an NTFS volume (which the Weaknees tool was able to mount read-only). I thought this would be ok, so I went ahead. Well, my mistake was ignoring the 'Decompression Error' that has also been reported elsewhere in this forum.
Last night I found an OLD 10GB drive, reformatted it to FAT32, re-did the upgrade, and it has expanded just fine.
Lesson Leaned.
Thanks to all for your help!
whatuppa
01-31-2005, 10:51 AM
I want to replace my 80 with a 160 I have, but i need the 57h image! Would anyone be so nice as to share one with me. I promise good will and happiness to the one that can help me. Thank You..........JOHN:D
weaknees
01-31-2005, 10:54 AM
If you can't find it, the software posted by JamieP for the Toshiba SD-H400 seems to break the barrier on the 810H images also.
It's on our CD, and info is on our upgrade instructions site. Just act as if the unit in question is the Toshiba SD-H400:
http://www.upgrade-instructions.com
GumboChief
02-17-2005, 06:16 PM
For anyone who cares, SD-h400_unlock just worked for me. Before I knew of this step, I had tried an upgrade with a Maxtor 250 gig drive. Of course, I got stuck with the original 80 gigs. After reading this thread, I pulled the drive out, booted off the CD, and ran the command (did not recopy data).
3 seconds later, I got the success message. Started the 810H again, and got 293 hours at basic.
Thanks to Jamie, Weaknees, and all the others who figured this process out.
TiVoJosh
04-27-2005, 02:01 AM
Can Any one send me the magic image for the 810H at all...I have tried everything on these forums and come to one conclusion....that my image is unexpandable....so if anyone could help that would be wonderful. Thanks
Praedicator
07-29-2005, 09:55 PM
One other thing seems odd to me: an A drive that's been expanded would normally have 6 MFS partitions. The earlier message you posted indicated yours only showed 4. That implies the drive didn't expand properly. To tell for sure, I'd want to see the mfsinfo output.
You might want to try what tivoupgrade suggested and move the drive to a different IDE channel.
I'm having a similar issue where I (finally...) was able to use mfsadd to go from 81 hours to 462 hours, but in the Pioner TiVo it still says up to 81 hours.
Whenever I try to run sd-h400_unlock against the disk it gives me the following error message:
Found 6 MFS partitions
crc mismatch len=512 0x00000000 0xfecb6b9e
sector wrong in zone (69924864 0)
The STDERR value returned is 1, but I have no clue on what to try next. MFSInfo still sees the full capacity of the drive and the drive still boots my TiVo, but the TiVo just doesn't recognize the additional space.
MFSInfo returns the following information:
MFS volume set for /dev/hdc
The MFS volume set contains 6 partitions
/dev/hdc10
MFS Partition Size: 256MiB
/dev/hdc11
MFS Partition Size: 33887MiB
/dev/hdc12
MFS Partition Size: 256MiB
/dev/hdc13
MFS Partition Size: 42991MiB
/dev/hdc14
MFS Partition Size: 0MiB
/dev/hdc15
MFS Partition Size: 303376MiB
Total MFS volume size: 380767MiB
Estimated hours in a standalone TiVo: 462
This MFS volume may be expanded 3 more times
Any ideas?
JamieP
07-30-2005, 10:44 AM
I'm having a similar issue where I (finally...) was able to use mfsadd to go from 81 hours to 462 hours, but in the Pioner TiVo it still says up to 81 hours.
....
/dev/hdc15
MFS Partition Size: 303376MiB
Did you use "-r 4" when you expanded? Without it, partitions are limited to 274MB, and I see you have one larger than that. I thought the result of that omission would be a drive that wouldn't boot, but maybe not in this case.
Praedicator
07-30-2005, 01:01 PM
Did you use "-r 4" when you expanded? Without it, partitions are limited to 274MB, and I see you have one larger than that. I thought the result of that omission would be a drive that wouldn't boot, but maybe not in this case.
Yes, I ran 'mfsadd -x -r 4 /dev/hdc' and was able to add the additional partitions. This occurs on both a 250GB and 400GB drive, they both show they've been expanded and boot the tivo.... but they both show up as 80 hours in the system information screen.
JamieP
07-30-2005, 01:31 PM
Yes, I ran 'mfsadd -x -r 4 /dev/hdc' and was able to add the additional partitions. This occurs on both a 250GB and 400GB drive, they both show they've been expanded and boot the tivo.... but they both show up as 80 hours in the system information screen.Ok.
A crc error indicates a corruption in MFS, or a disk I/O error. I now remember in an another thread you said you were using a hardware disk cloner. I wonder if it might have made a corrupted copy? I guess if it were me, I'd either start over with a fresh image, or take the original 80GB drive and force a GSOD to repair any internal problems in the file system, then copy/expand the disk using mfstools, not a hardware cloner.
Praedicator
07-30-2005, 01:44 PM
Ok.
A crc error indicates a corruption in MFS, or a disk I/O error. I now remember in an another thread you said you were using a hardware disk cloner. I wonder if it might have made a corrupted copy? I guess if it were me, I'd either start over with a fresh image, or take the original 80GB drive and force a GSOD to repair any internal problems in the file system, then copy/expand the disk using mfstools, not a hardware cloner.
Recloning the disk from mfstools is starting to sound like the best route... but I don't think the MFS file system is corrupt. The drive (even though TiVo doesn't recognize the additional space) still boots the system and all of the original data is recognized. If the hardware clone failed than the original data would not be recognized, not the data I added after the clone.
Back to the drawing board I guess... thanks for the help JamieP!!!
JamieP
07-30-2005, 01:50 PM
Recloning the disk from mfstools is starting to sound like the best route... but I don't think the MFS file system is corrupt. mfstools, and the tivo, support backup inodes. If an inode crc is bad, it falls back to the backup. the sd-h400_unlock tool doesn't do that. If the inode has a bad crc, it just bails. So it could still be a file system corruption that mfstools and the tivo can deal with, but sd-h400_unlock cannot. A GSOD cleanup *might* repair it. There's a magic key sequence you can hold down on the remote during boot to force a GSOD cleanup. I've forgotten what it is, but you should be able to find it in a search. You won't want to run it on the large disks unless you've increased your swap so that you have at least 1MB of swap per 2GB of disk. It should be fine on the original 80GB disk.
SonyTiVoLover
08-16-2005, 05:46 PM
I've had an upgraded Pioneer TiVo for about 18 months now. Never a day of problems. Now, around July 31, 2005 (end of the month), the unit successfully dials in for guide data, but is only on for about 30 seconds. The call then completes successfully, and spends about a minute processing whatever it downloaded, but no guide data is added to my system.
I've contacted TiVo about this and they confirm that my account is in good standing and say there are no problems on their end. However, they say their server logs show that I'm only downloading a small fraction of what I was previously downloading. I looks to me like their server isn't serving my unit the data but they assure me there is no problem with either my account or their servers and I have no reason to doubt this. The system and modem seem to be functioning fine as the system connects and completes calls successfully. Just no guide data downloaded. I've gone through guided setup twice and confirmed I do have stations selected.
Nothing has changed recently with my account or with my Pioneer unit. The software hasn't been upgraded lately (still running 5.2.2-01-2-275), I've deleted programs so I know there's space on the hard drives and everything else works perfectly.
Any ideas as to why I'm not downloading guide data?
jimphillips224
01-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Has anybody had success restoring the magic image to an 810H using a mac??
gibby
02-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Ok just ran the weaknees upgrade for my 810h, from 80 gig to 250 gig and failed.
everything went perfictly even after the backup and restore it said I had added 202 hrs to my recording time but when I put it into the unit and booted It only says 91hrs ???
it there anything else I can do to fix this ?
what is this magic disk and were is it
also I would like to try the unlock tool as well but I don't know the commands or where to get it
mark
JamieP
02-05-2006, 10:36 AM
Ok just ran the weaknees upgrade for my 810h, from 80 gig to 250 gig and failed.Look back about 10 posts here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=2569204&&#post2569204).
gibby
02-05-2006, 03:27 PM
Ok just pulled out the hard drive again and ran the the command line
SD-h400_unlock /dev/hda I did not use the -w switch ? I did not know what that is but after I ran the command It came back with sucess but I still only have 91 hrs instead of 250
I think I'm going to try the mfsadd -x -r 4 /dev/hdc
at this point I have nothing to loose anyone have any suggestions ?
JamieP
02-05-2006, 04:45 PM
I did not use the -w switch ?Then it didn't change anything. You need to follow the directions in the weaknees instructions.I did not know what that is but after I ran the command It came back with sucess but I still only have 91 hrs instead of 250.If you ran "sd-h400_unlock -h" you'd see full usage instructions, including:
Without the -w option, the program is running in test mode: it will show you
the changes it would make, but it won't write them to disk.
bnm81002
02-05-2006, 11:05 PM
If you can't find it, the software posted by JamieP for the Toshiba SD-H400 seems to break the barrier on the 810H images also.
It's on our CD, and info is on our upgrade instructions site. Just act as if the unit in question is the Toshiba SD-H400:
http://www.upgrade-instructions.com
I am confused on your response here, what software are you referring to? what is on your CD? I don't see any upgrade instructions from PTV, just hinsdale and weaknees guides? are you saying to use Toshiba SD-H400as the upgrade unit in the weaknees guide instead of Pioneer DVR-810H unit? also, when I download the free boot disk, I get a blank screen page after the download, I don't see anything, how do I download it properly?
I am planning on replacing the drive in my Pioneer DVR-810H unit, I was going to use the weaknees guide to upgrade with, but I don't know which CD do I need, I have the weaknees Boot CD off the guide and also the PTVupgrade LBA48 CD v4.01 with enhancements, do I need to use both CD's?
thanks for the help
gibby
02-05-2006, 11:23 PM
Thanks Jamie,
I will try it with the -w switch
I can't find the instructions of using the that command on weaknees website only the one that I used all readdy to replace the disk and it didn't have anything about the SD-h400_unlock command or msfadd
thanks for you help and we will see what happens tomorrow
JamieP
02-06-2006, 01:13 AM
I can't find the instructions of using the that command on weaknees website only the one that I used all readdy to replace the disk and it didn't have anything about the SD-h400_unlock command or msfadd thanks for you help and we will see what happens tomorrowStart here (http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php). Click "Click here to start your TiVo Upgrade". That will take you to a page where you pick your tivo model. Pick "Toshiba SD-H400" rather than the Pioneer 810H that you actually have. Answer the rest of the questions and you'll get to an instruction page that includes the sd-h400_unlock command.
There should also be a README_sd-h400_unlock.txt text document on the disk along with the program itself. That document provides more information.
gibby
02-06-2006, 06:35 PM
Ok got the new command line, pulled the drive again, ran the command line switch, put the dive back into the Tivo, booted it up and WOW
Variable, up to 327 hours !!!!!!
is that ture if I only installed a 250 gig drive ?
bnm81002
02-07-2006, 12:38 AM
Start here (http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php). Click "Click here to start your TiVo Upgrade". That will take you to a page where you pick your tivo model. Pick "Toshiba SD-H400" rather than the Pioneer 810H that you actually have. Answer the rest of the questions and you'll get to an instruction page that includes the sd-h400_unlock command.
There should also be a README_sd-h400_unlock.txt text document on the disk along with the program itself. That document provides more information.
hey Jamie, you answered my questions that I posted for PTVupgrade on the previous page(post # 269) which disk contains the text document though?
I have the ptvlba48 v.401 with enhancements and I don't see it there? I also don't see it on the weaknees lba boot cd as well? how do I download the free version of the ptvlba48 v.401, when I downloaded it, the page is empty?
thanks
JamieP
02-07-2006, 07:59 AM
hey Jamie, you answered my questions that I posted for PTVupgrade on the previous page(post # 269) which disk contains the text document though?
I have the ptvlba48 v.401 with enhancements and I don't see it there? I also don't see it on the weaknees lba boot cd as well?Boot from the disk. Do a "which sd-h400_unlock". That will tell you the directory where the program lives. The document is probably in the same place. Alternatively, look on DDB where it was originally posted. how do I download the free version of the ptvlba48 v.401, when I downloaded it, the page is empty?
thanksAsk the vendor. This may be an issue with your web browser and their site.
bnm81002
02-07-2006, 01:43 PM
Boot from the disk. Do a "which sd-h400_unlock". That will tell you the directory where the program lives. The document is probably in the same place. Alternatively, look on DDB where it was originally posted.Ask the vendor. This may be an issue with your web browser and their site.
so I'm better off with the ptvlba48 v.401(enhancements) than the weaknees lba boot cd, ptv has the killhdinitrd kernels and >137GB support that weaknees doesn't, correct?
ah I saw the thread over at DDB posted by someone I've seen here somewhere ;)
very cool thread too but I can I still use that sd-h400_unlock from DDB even if I don't have Tivo subscription service(just have Basic service) I know the "DDB unlock" is more entailed with goodies :D
thanks Jamie
JamieP
02-07-2006, 03:43 PM
... can I still use that sd-h400_unlock from DDB even if I don't have Tivo subscription service(just have Basic service) I know the "DDB unlock" is more entailed with goodiesAll it does is remove the capacity lock; nothing more. It does not matter if it is tivo basic or tivo plus.
bnm81002
02-07-2006, 05:32 PM
All it does is remove the capacity lock; nothing more. It does not matter if it is tivo basic or tivo plus.
cool, so I can use the ptvlba48 4.01 with enhancements as my boot cd ISO image then when I upgrade using the weaknees guide?
I like that guide over hinsdale because of it's simple and easier to understand and use
tivoupgrade
02-07-2006, 06:16 PM
cool, so I can use the ptvlba48 4.01 with enhancements as my boot cd ISO image then when I upgrade using the weaknees guide?
I like that guide over hinsdale because of it's simple and easier to understand and use
You should have no problem doing so... FYI, we updated the CD to 4.02 (I haven't updated the post yet), but no changes that would be considered "on topic" here.
Thx
bnm81002
02-07-2006, 08:56 PM
You should have no problem doing so... FYI, we updated the CD to 4.02 (I haven't updated the post yet), but no changes that would be considered "on topic" here.
Thx
unless you're willing to send me the $5 version for free, I'm not paying another $5 for something that I have already, even if it's the 4.01 version ;)
tivoupgrade
02-07-2006, 11:11 PM
unless you're willing to send me the $5 version for free, I'm not paying another $5 for something that I have already, even if it's the 4.01 version ;)
Not suggesting that you purchase the 4.02 version or even use the free one; the single change made has no bearing on the problem you trying to solve. ;-)
rmarshll
02-08-2006, 01:54 PM
Drive Crashed .. Lost all my Images
bnm81002
02-08-2006, 06:32 PM
i have a 810H image that has been upgraded to 7.2 software which is able to be expanded to larger hard drives. I used the same image on my 300GB Drive in my Pioneer Dvr-810H
I would be happy to upload it to some's FTP so that it may be shared with other TIVO Users
you don't mind sending me that image through a PM here? thanks
rmarshll
02-08-2006, 08:36 PM
Drive Crashed .. Lost all my Images
bhingi
03-07-2006, 08:51 AM
Hello All,
I just purchased the Pioneer DVR-810H-S and had a few questions before I proceed and upgrade the hard drive. I just read this post from the beginning and want to be clear on what needs to be done.
By the way, this device is really cool and can be found for cheap on ebay nowadays :) :cool: Anyway...
Immediately, after turning the unit on and plugging in the usb network adapater, the Tivo called home and got the proper firmware update and service update.
In the System Information screen, my Tivo shows that it was updated to 7.2.1-tak-01-2-275.
Please tell me if the following general proposed steps for the upgrade will work fine:
1) Remove the old drive from the Tivo, connect to my PC, boot with the PTV free cd.
2) Backup the drive to my PC.
3) Connect my new drive to the PC, boot with the PTV free cd.
4) Restore the backup to the new 300GB hard drive.
5) Put new drive in the Tivo, then clear and delete - is this still necessary, if my setup will be the same or would like to retain recordings? Then I should be good to go with the full size of the drive available?
Please let me know if I have overlooked anything. I am looking to make this my weekend hobby project :-)
Thanks for all your help...
weaknees
03-07-2006, 09:03 AM
That all looks good. You don't need a Clear and Delete if you are using the image on the same machine it came from (which you are).
shawnrhea
10-16-2007, 08:15 PM
I would be greatly indebt to you for this info please as my 810's hd has passed on. thank you
weaknees
10-17-2007, 12:40 PM
I would be greatly indebt to you for this info please as my 810's hd has passed on. thank you
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