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wmorrison27

02-10-2007, 10:46 AM

If you network your TiVo to your home computer, you can send some of the programs that may not be watched for a while to cold storage if you have room on your computer's hard drive. Computer storage is cheap and you can easily add more storage to a computer by plugging in an external hard drive.

I have a computer with a large drive that I use for storing classic movies captured when they did appear on cable (like Disney flicks for the kids) that we plan to watch once in a while, but don't want to keep around plugging up limited space on my TiVo box. With Ethernet networking, I can watch a movie from the computer in real time on my TiVo. We even watch the movie ON the computer screen sometimes - which can be nice if the TiVo TV is busy.

You can even get fancy and copy the files to a DVD - which we sometimes do in preparation for a long car trip with the kids and load up with their favorite TiVo'ed shows for the car DVD player.

kirbinster

02-10-2007, 01:05 PM

I was going to suggest the exact same thing that the previous poster suggested - as I do that all the time.

Another thing I do is use the dual tuner pvr that is built into my computer to record shows and then send them to the TiVo so that I can watch them on my 65" HD TV rather than on the PC. I also use a program called VideoRedo to strip out all commercials before I send the stuff to the TiVo to make it a more enjoyable viewing experience.

grizel

02-10-2007, 02:19 PM

Okay. sound sliek you dont need two tivos' you just need the one cleaned off. in our house we agreed day one that if you watch it it dies. we have very few things saved for a rainy da, just got a dvd burner so those we have held (music and comedy concerts mostly) are going to be gone soon. We're very strict about the running of the tivo, (When you have 60+ season passes on a 80 hour tivo, you have to be) suggestions are sorted every day and those we dont care about are killed instantly. We're just watchers not archivers anyway.

being I'm female myself I have to say the "get a new wife" jokes don't fly, I thought I'd chime in... here we go...

Okie:

1: get a DVD burner (I got a Lite On for $99 on pricegrabber last week - email me I'll tell you where) and start burning. or make her do it. bad thing is you kinda have to monitor it while it records (since swithcing to live is right out), so you might as well sit down and watch it. it's good to do when you are multi tasking and running around. I find a egg timer is great for next to the remote. Set it minute or two early. os you have the time to get there and are ready to hit STOP.

2: tell her the oldest stuff is dying first. No ifs and or butts. OR
every three or so days ask which SERIES saved can be killed off. She gets to choose which she really cares about.

3: send the kids to grandmas for a weekend, or you take them away on a trip, and tell her this is her ONE chance to watch/record off all her shows or they die a harsh death. Also tell her that she has to delete them when done. If she screws her chance and goes shopping witht he girls, she has to personally delete X number of hours.

4: kill everything. Even your stuff in a drastic "salting of the earth" maneuver. Say the machine was too full and it locked up so you pulled the plug and had to kill everything off in a fit of angry depseration because there was no room. lay on the guilt.

5: you *COULD* get her her own tivo - valentine's day is coming up after all, not hign says love like "Keep your **** on your own machine biatch"... just put it where ever she spends the most time in the house (office, kitchen etc...), so a new tv might be in order too. I agree though that getting her her own tivo will just encourage her to squirrel away shows for winter and you will get the above "i'm full, tivo for me" scenario. It's the "hold my handbag" of the tivo she-crowd. Is there a way to set tivo to ask for a passcode before recording (on yours?)

6: second/larger hard drive i hear is the easiest thing in the world to do almost... cheaper than buying a new one... just gives her more room to fill up though.

JustAllie

02-10-2007, 02:57 PM

There ought to be a requirement to read the whole thread before posting. ;)

RandyDtg

02-10-2007, 03:45 PM

You can also transfer to a PC or Laptop, then even burn the files to DVD's. And then later retrieve them back to the TiVo for watching.

or get a TiVo with a big hard drive:

My 750 gig TiVo holds over 900 hours.

hoboknj

02-10-2007, 03:50 PM

Don't ever set anything to "save until I delete". Record everything as "keep until space needed" and you will never run into this problem. Save until I delete anticipates all future programs being recorded and saved until manually deleted and therefore blocks out more time than actually needed. We had this problem with an old 30 hour box, changed all the options to delete as needed and NEVER lost a program. It makes a huge difference and is a very simple solution to free up hours of available time on your hard drive that no longer is reserved for future programs on your season pass selections.

photokev

02-10-2007, 04:45 PM

The cheapest option may be to install a second hard drive. You could triple your storage for less than buying a second Tivo.

bareyb

02-10-2007, 05:18 PM

I had basically the same predicament with my kid's shows. They want to keep them forever and watch each one 137 times. So I got them their own TiVo and I use it to put my overflow on. Season passes that are causing a conflict on Tivo1 get moved to TiVo2. So it helps the kids while at the same time helping me. Win-win. Except for the extra money it all costs of course. The kids win that one. :p

timckelley

02-10-2007, 06:24 PM

The cheapest option may be to install a second hard drive. You could triple your storage for less than buying a second Tivo.

I refer you post 403 (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4380009&&#post4380009) of this thread. I've already upgraded her TiVo, which solved our problems. She still has lots of available space on her upgraded TiVo.

The 'wife won't delete' problem, for now, has been solved.

TivoFan

02-10-2007, 09:11 PM

And it only took 3 years 8 months! :)

timckelley

02-10-2007, 09:22 PM

And it only took 3 years 8 months! :)

To be fair, most of that time there wasn't a problem. Buying a second TiVo less than a year after the first, solved the problem, but then it resurfaced last year, so then I upgraded her TiVo. I always suspected I'd need to to that.

I also talked to my wife today about her TiVoing. She still has the General Hospital SP on her TiVo, and we have the American Idol SP on my TiVo, but there are no other shows she regularly watches. She has cut way down on the swamping of her To Do List she once did. So this is why she's not backlogging anymore - she simply doesn't schedule as much stuff to watch. She claims that she's caught up on General Hospital, and also caught up on American Idol.

I asked her how she can do this. I made the analogy with other forms of addiction, like alcoholism. Normally, when an alcholic breaks the habit they must become a Tee-totaler. Imagine an alcoholic having a sip of alcohol each day, but not plunging back into their addiction. Here's my wife having her daily sips of her TiVo, but she is not plunging back into the mad swamping of her To Do List that she once did. I'm still wondering how she's doing it.

It'd be funny if one day she registers with TCF and reads this thread, and then decides to post her side of all this. :eek: (She has still never seen this thread.)

ZeoTiVo

02-10-2007, 09:37 PM

Don't ever set anything to "save until I delete". Record everything as "keep until space needed" .
did all these kind people who posted all these helpful tips really think that none of them came up in the 3 years this thread has been around :rolleyes:

Stalyn

02-11-2007, 10:32 AM

Well i solved that problem by getting 3 total tivos in my house. My youngest daughter (28) is like your wife. I got a 250 in my front room, a 40 in my daughters room and another 40 for my wife. Now everyone is happy and i can watch what i want on my tivo.

steves1010

02-11-2007, 11:54 AM

I had a similar issue only our tivo is 40 hour. Since I was purchasing a new computer for my wife I did so with a multimedia package added a wireless router and tivo card then set up auto transfers to her computer from tivo. Now I'm downloading her programs that have to be saved to DVD's. I admit it's a little extreme but since I was already getting her the computer it made more sense that upgrading. Good luck.

dalgar

02-11-2007, 11:58 AM

I've just been reading through this and was having a great laugh. I can't wait until the warranty runs out on my tivo so I can start working with it. But, by that time someone will have already figured out how to make Tivo recognize external HD's on the USB. Then I can stick my terrabyte station on it! LOL.

Seriously though if I can get this PC to Tivo xfer rate issue licked I will have TONS of space. I have 2 terrabyte NAT servers and one I wanted to fill with all our old VHS movies and DVD's so we can simply pcik from a menu.

If I can't get that working I will look into the sling system or some such.

timckelley

02-11-2007, 12:13 PM

Wow! I just got a copy of the latest issue of the TiVoCommunity newsletter. (It's emailed to all us TCFers), and this thread is second on the list of 'hot topics'. :o

murgatroyd

02-11-2007, 03:32 PM

I asked her how she can do this. I made the analogy with other forms of addiction, like alcoholism. Normally, when an alcholic breaks the habit they must become a Tee-totaler. Imagine an alcoholic having a sip of alcohol each day, but not plunging back into their addiction. Here's my wife having her daily sips of her TiVo, but she is not plunging back into the mad swamping of her To Do List that she once did. I'm still wondering how she's doing it.

Don't be so harsh, Tim.

After all, MANY people get TiVos, fill up their To-Do Lists, and go crazy because they feel they must watch/save everything.

Most people do learn, eventually, that they don't have to watch everything and its okay to let some shows go. You learn which shows are important to you and which are not so important.

And we all have seasonal variations of too many shows to watch / nothing on the Now Playing List (or in your case, 'I've already seen all those Suggestions'). As you have explained, it was just that kind of seasonal variation that caused your space crunch.

This is just part of owning a TiVo. Maybe your family's case is extreme when compared to others, but I've never thought your situation was as dysfunctional as everyone else is making it out to be.

Jan

timckelley

02-11-2007, 05:02 PM

Oh, I have retract a false statement I made earlier, and I just apologized to my wife today for making a false assumption. It turns out she never did put an American Idol SP on my TiVo. She's been scheduling each ep as it appears in the guide data and putting them in my To Do List, but she has not put in an SP. She apparently is at least respecting the ground rule against her putting SPs onto my TiVo.

But she smiled and said if I'd like the SP there, she'll put it there. Well, since we're watching the show together, and we're watching it upstairs in my TiVo room, I think it should go on my TiVo. But I think it should be 'first runs only'.

She also said she's got a bunch of movies sitting on her TiVo right now. (Remember I said there are only two shows she regularly watches now, but movies are not shows.) She knows I sometimes look for good movies and welcomed me to watch anything I see interesting on her TiVo.

It sounds like she's thinking the best use of our TiVos is not to split them into a his and hers TiVo, but instead for us to share both TiVos. I suppose I wouldn't mind that unless hers started filling up again. That's why we got two to begin with.

I'm starting to regret getting a series 1 TiVo. If the second TiVo had been series 2 like the first, I could be using HMO to move shows between TiVos. Then everybody would be happy. We could have a his and hers TiVo, but if there's something she wants to watch upstairs, she could move it to my TiVo just prior to watching it. Darn... I should have had better foresight.

jdventer

02-11-2007, 05:33 PM

I've got an 80 hour series two TiVo. We've several season passes, with the option: "Keep until I delete". I've watched everything I want, and am ready to delete, but my wife is severely behind on watching the programs. The TiVo is almost full now, and often when I try to schedule a new program it says it can't schedule because it's out of memory.

(Actually, it's projecting that by the time the show airs, it'll be out of memory because of the "To Do" list, but as the season's really over now, the only stuff in my To Do list are 3 season passes my wife has set up for our 3 year old son -- educational cartoons. These are also "keep until I delete", but my wife has agreed to let me archive these to VHS as soon as they record. Therefore, by the time my desired shows will air, the TiVo really won't be out of memory, but it doesn't know that. A solution is for me to wait until just before the air date, and then schedule a recording.)

My wife is unwilling to delete anything, because she wants to watch it all. (There's quite a prodigious amount recorded right now.) She also doesn't know when she'll have time to watch stuff. She won't change "Keep until I delete" to an expiration date, because she can't guarantee when she'll watch the stuff. Our TiVo is effectively no longer an 80 hour TiVo, but a 6-7 hour TiVo, and it's still shrinking. Soon I'll be TiVoless. [sounds of shocked awe]. She's jeopardizing my TiVo experience. Solutions?
Record programs as Keep Until Space Needed and ask you wife to add time to recorded programs she has not watched (you can add up to 6 days) when they show up with an (!) indicating TiVo will delete them soon. This will allow you to schedule more programs to record because the TiVo will not reserve the space forever.

johnscott99

02-12-2007, 05:25 AM

My wife recorded a radio show about dodgy songs in the 1930s.

She won't delete it because she wants to write down the names of the songs and singers.

I have done this 3 times now. She keeps losing the piece of paper.

It was broadcast in October 2003.

It's harder to lose a TiVo than a piece of paper.

Tattoo?

RangersRBack

02-12-2007, 09:09 AM

There ought to be a requirement to read the whole thread before posting. ;)

Yeah it's pretty funny, most of these helpful suggestions have been made in one form or another sometime in this thread in the last three years and eight months. Apparently people don't want to read 500+ posts...can't imagine why!

Can you believe people are still coming up with suggestions???

Folks, it's all been done...it's all been suggested...it doesn't help.

Tim's problem CANNOT be solved electronically!!!

donutsdad

02-12-2007, 09:21 AM

I moved all of the exercise equipment and my wifes other "hobbies" all into the room where the tivo is....that way she is simply "there" more hours than before....

ergo..more opportunity to watch and delete...

the problem for me is that for the shows that we both watch...i have to wait till her "schedule" permits for even ME to watch those.....

maximumtwo

02-12-2007, 10:56 AM

I know some people have already given this as an answer.

I have some what the same problem. You need to use TIVO Desktop. It is a free program that you down load to your computer. Your tivo and your computer become a network. By doing this you can move programs over to your computer and back again. It will explain how to do it on the TIVO website. I did it and it works great. I finally got the second TIVO with the dual tuner. Now I have them all link together and it is wonderful.

Good Luck. I hope this helps some.

Max

timckelley

02-12-2007, 11:02 AM

I have some what the same problem. You need to use TIVO Desktop. It is a free program that you down load to your computer. Your tivo and your computer become a network. By doing this you can move programs over to your computer and back again. It will explain how to do it on the TIVO website. I did it and it works great. I finally got the second TIVO with the dual tuner. Now I have them all link together and it is wonderful.

Good Luck. I hope this helps some.

Max

That's a nifty solution, and I might look into this if it becomes a problem again, but as I've said later in this thread, our problem is solved for now. My wife has scads of empty space on her upgraded series 2, and right now, my TiVo's NP is 100% my stuff, and 0% my wife's. Yes, we now have one joint show we watch together, but we're 100% caught up on that show.

Actually, there's really more than just that one show we watch together. There's a couple of SP's of mine I have on my TiVo, such that when I watch them, sometimes my wife is there watching it with me, but not always.

Sniffy69

02-12-2007, 11:08 AM

She'll NEVER get around to watching them, guaranteed. Just delete them all and go to marriage counseling about that decision later.

timckelley

02-12-2007, 11:41 AM

She'll NEVER get around to watching them, guaranteed. Just delete them all and go to marriage counseling about that decision later.
Which post is that in reply too? I'm starting to get a little astonished at how many comments I'm seeing that are outdated based on more recent posts. :)

RangersRBack

02-12-2007, 11:44 AM

That's a nifty solution, and I might look into this if it becomes a problem again, but as I've said later in this thread, our problem is solved for now. My wife has scads of empty space on her upgraded series 2, and right now, my TiVo's NP is 100% my stuff, and 0% my wife's.

OK we can all rest easy now, Tim's problem has been solved. No need for any more solutions or suggestions. Tim and Mrs. Tim are good to go.

Here's the funny part. Read the above paragraph, and look what Tim said:

"Our problem is solved...for now".

Which means even Tim knows it's only a matter of time before he's back saying my wife did so and so and it's a problem because of so and so. I'm telling you, this thread has at least a ten year shelf life, maybe longer. The funny thing is EVERY possible solution has been proposed, but people aren't crazy enough to go back and read this entire thread, so every three months we get back on the same merry go round and throw around the same theories, and solutions.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Put me on that lise, because I keep expecting this thread to go away...and it never does!

RangersRBack

02-12-2007, 11:45 AM

Which post is that in reply too? I'm starting to get a little astonished at how many comments I'm seeing that are outdated based on more recent posts. :)

Tim....newsflash:

PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND READ 500+ POSTS GOING BACK ALMOST FOUR YEARS!!!

This is why thread shouldn't be four years old, and why this thread is bordering on insane. WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE SAME BASIC THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

And you're surprised people are rehashing old comments?

timckelley

02-12-2007, 12:13 PM

Tim....newsflash:

PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND READ 500+ POSTS GOING BACK ALMOST FOUR YEARS!!!

This is why thread shouldn't be four years old, and why this thread is bordering on insane. WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE SAME BASIC THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

And you're surprised people are rehashing old comments?

Frankly, yes. Whenever I see a long thread, I either do the work and read before posting, or I don't post. There are many, many threads longer than this at TCF.

I am making an effort, by the way, of not talking about the same thing over and over again. So far, your the only one calling for the closing of this thread. I will indeed stop posting if (a), people stop asking me questions, and (b) there is a general agreement this thread should end.

"Our problem is solved...for now". Yes, it is indeed solved for now. The first time I did a TiVo upgrade (actually it was buying a new TiVo, not really an upgrade), I got 2 1/2 years of TiVo happiness out of it. The second time I did an upgrade (last year), will hopefully get me another 2 1/2 years of happiness. Or maybe, my wife is cured of her problem now.

DevdogAZ

02-12-2007, 12:18 PM

This thread should definitely NOT end. It's hilarious every time I open my e-mail and there are new replies.

RangersRBack

02-12-2007, 12:20 PM

Frankly, yes. Whenever I see a long thread, I either do the work and read before posting, or I don't post. There are many, many threads longer than this at TCF.

I am making an effort, by the way, of not talking about the same thing over and over again. So far, your the only one calling for the closing of this thread. I will indeed stop posting if (a), people stop asking me questions, and (b) there is a general agreement this thread should end.

Dude I'm not asking for the thread to be closed...I never said that. I think it's pointless and ridiculous to talk about your wife and Tivo capacity issues over and over and over again for four years, but I'm not the forum police.

Besides, I get a kick out of this thread, why would I want it to be closed?

However, this thread doesn't go on and on and on because people ask you questions. You bring up your issues, we discuss them and then the thread goes away for 2-3 months...and then YOU start it up again. With a different problem regarding your wife and Tivo capacity issues.

Do you listen to the same CD over and over and over again too?

RangersRBack

02-12-2007, 12:22 PM

And it only took 3 years 8 months! :)

Oh it's not solved...no way it's solved.

Was it solved when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I don't THINK so!

Solved would mean this thread would go away because there is nothing further to discuss. Believe me, this thread is JUST GETTING STARTED!

timckelley

02-12-2007, 12:26 PM

Dude I'm not asking for the thread to be closed...I never said that.This is why thread shouldn't be four years old, and why this thread is bordering on insane.That sounded like a recommendation for closure to me.

However, this thread doesn't go on and on and on because people ask you questions. You bring up your issues, we discuss them and then the thread goes away for 2-3 months...and then YOU start it up again.I admit that sometimes I do start it back up again, when I have an update to the situation, because I've gotten impressions that many people would like updates. TCF is filled with threads where the OP comes back with updates, and it's generally welcomed.

There are plenty of other times though, that this thread has continued because somebody else has posted to it and/or asked me questions.

I'm really not sure how much salt I should put in your critique of the worthiness of this thread, because you seem to be almost alone in your criticism.

Plus the TCF newletter has declared this the second hottest thread, so who am I to argue with that? :D

supersleeper

02-12-2007, 12:35 PM

I have three TiVo's and have NEVER had this problem, but I only save the "Save to I delete" option only for my MUST SEE's. I think it is a matter of prioritization. two of our TiVo's are networked and they sometimes offset each other to record programming that the other cannot because it is busy. One series 2 is in our bedroom (Networked) the other is in our living room (networked) and the last series 1 (not networked) is in the kids playroom and records nothing but cartoons. This setup works perfectly for us.

Another thing you can do is delete programs that she won't notice :eek: . Believe me, she won't notice. Not many of our programs are set to "Save until I delete" but my wife too does not delete recordings. I've tried to tell her to delete the recordings after I have marked them as "save until..." but she doesn't grasp it.

Also, at some point she has to realize that she is going to miss programming just the same as if it were not deleted, because the maximum amount of programs you can save a "Save until I delete". This is actually worse, because she will miss the NEW episodes.

murgatroyd

02-12-2007, 12:40 PM

Was it solved when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I don't THINK so!

This is better than watching "Jaywalking" on The Tonight Show. :D

Jan (not saying "/pops popcorn" because I would choke on it when I laughed)

JustAllie

02-12-2007, 12:58 PM

This is better than watching "Jaywalking" on The Tonight Show. :D

Jan (not saying "/pops popcorn" because I would choke on it when I laughed)Yeah, that was hysterical. Those German bombers sure had to fly a long way. :D

RangersRBack

02-12-2007, 03:21 PM

That sounded like a recommendation for closure to me.

I admit that sometimes I do start it back up again, when I have an update to the situation, because I've gotten impressions that many people would like updates. TCF is filled with threads where the OP comes back with updates, and it's generally welcomed.

There are plenty of other times though, that this thread has continued because somebody else has posted to it and/or asked me questions.

I'm really not sure how much salt I should put in your critique of the worthiness of this thread, because you seem to be almost alone in your criticism.

Plus the TCF newletter has declared this the second hottest thread, so who am I to argue with that? :D

A number of people have talked about the lifeline of this thread, I'm not alone.

Yeah you said 'second hottest thread' a few times, so congratulations, it sounds like you enjoy that. Not sure what the criteria is to make it a hot thread, but if it's new ideas and concepts, I'm afraid we're all falling a bit short there. Even you noted that people were rehashing old ideas.

But who can blame them, it's unrealistic to ask someone to sit there for hours going through 500+ posts! :eek:

RangersRBack

02-12-2007, 03:28 PM

I have three TiVo's and have NEVER had this problem, but I only save the "Save to I delete" option only for my MUST SEE's. This setup works perfectly for us.

See here is the thing. You have to be a fan of this thread (yep, I'm one of the few), OR SIT HERE FOR HOURS AND READ EVERY POST to realize that Tim's problems actually have nothing to do with Tivo, or storage, or capacity, or deletions, or anything electronic for that matter.

People keep naively posting remedies, or solutions, and 'what worked for them'. When the truth is, NOTHING will work for TIM. Nothing whatsoever!!!

Tim could have an entire roomful of Tivos, all with unlimited capacity, and we would STILL be discussing what his wife did to the fifth Tivo from the left last night. We discuss because...he discusses.

cheer

02-12-2007, 03:35 PM

Yeah, that was hysterical. Those German bombers sure had to fly a long way. :D
You know you're getting old when you begin to suspect that most people don't get Animal House references anymore. :(

ZeoTiVo

02-12-2007, 04:54 PM

Not sure what the criteria is to make it a hot thread, have somone other than the OP continuously posting critiques oif the threads while other people see the thread pop up on the first page for the first time and thus decide to post their 2 cents and then all the regular viewers keep coming back to see what is new and before you know it you get good numbers in both the posting and views column and bingo - the software picks it up as the second hottest thread.

but maybe yours was a rhetorical question ;)

RangersRBack

02-13-2007, 09:11 AM

have somone other than the OP continuously posting critiques oif the threads while other people see the thread pop up on the first page for the first time and thus decide to post their 2 cents and then all the regular viewers keep coming back to see what is new and before you know it you get good numbers in both the posting and views column and bingo - the software picks it up as the second hottest thread.

but maybe yours was a rhetorical question ;)

It was, but that poses a bigger question in the grand scheme of things...

Is a rhetorical question still rhetorical if someone answers it???

Hmmmmm

RangersRBack

02-16-2007, 12:46 PM

OK it looks like this thread has finished yet another short-term run, I'm guessing it's no longer one of the 'hot topics' or whatever it was in the newsletter.

So who wants to predict when Tim will come back and tell us the latest news of what his wife is doing, or not doing?

My prediction is we hear from Tim again on May 24. He seems to be able to go three months between postings, and then he has to come in and tell us his latest Tivo/wife problems. And it starts all over again.

Your prediction?

hyachts

02-16-2007, 02:16 PM

My prediction is that you will contribute many more posts and, consequently, subtract more value from this thread than anyone, including the OP.

RangersRBack

02-16-2007, 03:13 PM

My prediction is that you will contribute many more posts and, consequently, subtract more value from this thread than anyone, including the OP.

Value and this thread in the same sentence? Quite the stretch! :p

timckelley

06-28-2007, 05:53 PM

My prediction is we hear from Tim again on May 24. He seems to be able to go three months between postings, and then he has to come in and tell us his latest Tivo/wife problems. And it starts all over again.

Your prediction?

My prediction is that you'll have to eat crow, because today is June 28th.

musika

06-29-2007, 01:50 AM

upgrade now for betterness

timckelley

10-13-2007, 04:11 AM

New development, and so time to update this thread. :p :D

For the last month, I've been having a lot of stuttering on my TiVo, so 5 days ago I finally got around to replacing the hard drive. (If anybody's interested, see this thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=369237) for the complications and problems I ran into while doing this.)

Anyway, I did this, and all was dandy and my TiVo was running really nicely with no stuttering, but then earlier tonight I was watching a show on my TiVo and right in the middle of the show, it went totally dead as if a light switch were flicked or something! :( :down:

I tried unplugging and plugging back in several times and this did nothing. No drives spinning or anything, it's like there was no power. So I opened up the case, and I think the cord is good because when I plug it in, I hear a very faint clicking noise, but no spinning is happening. At this point, I don't know how to fix the problem, so I posted about my problem (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=369815) over on the Help forum, and am awaiting advice. Meanwhile, I'm out of commission and dead in the water. :mad:

My wife is asleep, but without her permission I just went downstairs to her TiVo and transferred all my SPs onto her TiVo. :D http://www.websmileys.com/sm/evil/1287.gif I looked at her RD list and see she has about 8 pages worth, so it looks like she's not about to run out of space in the imminent future. However, she's got a 250GB hard drive and her default quality is "High Quality" (not "Best Quality" like I use), so I kind of expected to see more than 8 pages of RD there. Her Now Playing is fairly large, and she has something like 50-60 SPs/WLs! :eek:

Oh well, hopefully I can get my TiVo fixed before space gets to be a problem on her TiVo.

jtlytle

10-13-2007, 04:57 AM

Can you sneak in and change the quality to BEST and pray she won't noticed?

RoyK

10-13-2007, 07:50 AM

Can you sneak in and change the quality to BEST and pray she won't noticed?
Good God man, are you trying to get the guy killed?

bryus

10-15-2007, 03:27 PM

Wow, I am new to this thread because until recently I only visited the DirecTiVo thread. My wife and I managed to get by for 3 years on a 35hour DirecTiVo box. Only once in that time did we "lose" shows because we ran out of space. And, that was during the Olympics where I could only record 4-7 hour blocks.

I upgraded to a 77 hour drive earlier this year which made it a lot easier to manage our space. Then the 2nd input went bad so we switched last month to a S2 DT and cable. This has led to a new complication with space, the quality level. On the DirecTiVo everything is best quality so it's easy to count up the space remaining in hours. Now, not so much.

Still, we don't have too much trouble maintaining just one TiVo. I think a big part of this is that we tend to run 20-40 season passes. I can't believe how many people I see have 60+ season pases. I even saw someone say they had ~115 somewhere.

It makes me feel like I don't watch much TV at all. :)

My thought on this is that Tim's wife has strong packrat tendencies, but that they aren't dangerous because she's just filling up a hard drive with television shows. It's not like she's filling rooms with compulsive shopping.

My wife and I just avoid these problems by being critical of our recording and eliminating shows we don't watch. If it goes past 3 or 4 episodes not watched maybe we're not into it. Also, once something is watched, it's gone. I am storing movies we wanted to see on a hard drive connected to my PC while I have free HBO for six months, then we can watch those when our now playing list runs out.

timckelley

10-15-2007, 03:42 PM

Can you sneak in and change the quality to BEST and pray she won't noticed?When I upgraded her to 250GB, my hope was for her new space to last her a couple of years or more before it gets to be a problem, and she starts attempting to trespass onto my TiVo again.

Your idea would undermine this goal of mine, and so I'm definitely rejecting your suggestion. :) I'm not sure why you'd think I should do that. :confused:

barbeedoll

10-15-2007, 06:12 PM

Delete her stuff and blame it on a TiVo bug!

-=Tim=-
I'll share my food and my bed, but every relationship is truly tested when one is forced to share a Tivo.

I "feel your pain"", as I have a husband with the same "don't delete anything" mantra.

Here's my suggestion, and the way I solve the problem. I have a Tivo with a DVD burner attached...I burn the shows to a DVD, and if and when he watches them is now on his shoulders. But I've "saved" them for him.

On my other Tivos that are without a burner, I transfer the shows to my PC with Tivo to Go, then burn them to DVD from there.

The option to watch shows on a computer or portable DVD viewer in the car (when waiting for kids), on trips when someone else is driving, watch some with the kids on long trips, watch while outside and the kids are running around, etc., while waiting in a Doctor or Dentist's office..you get the idea, may give your wife more of an opportunity to catch up with her viewing on her own timetable.

A gift of a portable viewer for her may be much cheaper for you than a divorce. And no one should have to suffer the stress and worry of missing his own shows with a perfectly good Tivo sitting there.

Barbeedoll

ZeoTiVo

10-16-2007, 12:31 AM

timckelley

10-16-2007, 09:24 AM

She still to this day does seem cured of her VHS tape amassing problem. If she were still doing it, I'd still be assembling bookshelves for her. :) But it's been a long time since I've done that. Still it would bug me to have a Now Playing as thick as hers, but I can see where some people might like it, because they feel it gives them a lot of variety to choose from for watching. Plus, I suppose it's kind of pointless to have 250 GB, if you don't intend to have a thick Now Playing.

By the way, a few days ago, somebody has agreed with my analysis that my TiVo is most likely suffering from a broken power supply. I'm still waiting for my 9thTee power supply I ordered.

My wife also told me yesterday that one of my SouthParks I thrust onto her TiVo was conflicting with one of her shows, so she rescheduled my ep for a different showing. (Odd as I received no conflict messages when I scheduled it.) One thing I'm worried about is that the SouthPark guide data lately has not had the actual ep name in it, so there's no guarantee that when my wife rescheduled my ep, that she actually picked the same ep or not. :(

I jokingly told her my shows carried higher priority than hers, and she reminded me that it's her TiVo. :o

mearlus

10-16-2007, 11:57 AM

A recent 'solution' occured for one of our Tivos a few months ago. The HD died ;) That sort of taught a lesson on archiving stuff for the sake of archiving it.

What I've done to combat filling the Tivo's HD's up with 'stuff I want to keep forever' is have the wife go through the now playing and tell me what she wants kept. I think transfer it over to my desktop and once I have a bunch on their I transfer them over to my fileserver for archiving. At some point she says she'll sit down and edit/extract the clips from the videos and burn it to DVDs. (Generally Ice Skating/Sports are what she keeps)

I'm assuming the editing will be a project for me in the future :P

barbeedoll

10-17-2007, 04:11 PM

it seems no one read deeper into this thread when the wife had a VCR hooked up and was amassing booksehlves full opf tapes of shows she was going to catch up on someday. The lerger hard drive helped alleviate that archive problem as she was able to watch more shows before they were in danger of being deleted and at last report does not compulsively archive like she used too..

making the media more portable than a VCR might help some but does not seem to fit the family life style Tim has shown in various posts

PS to tim - I never saw any discernible difference between best and high other than the top quality setting took far more drive space for, to me, no benefit. If she went down one notch she would get a lot more hours of space on the drive
You're right. I must not know as much about Tim's family life style as some others.

I saw the "VHS tape amassing problem" and recognized myself before I really understood all of my options with Tivo. Although it had not previously been part of my lifestyle (which was VHS tape amassing"), I now have found a solution by moving on to other viewing formats for my Tivo files. I'm only saying it is a possible answer to Tim's dilemma.

Sorry if I put too much of myself in Tim's situation. It was only a suggestion.......(Grin)

Barbeedoll

timckelley

10-17-2007, 04:34 PM

Speaking of VHS, my wife just asked me other the weekend about the government mandated changed signals going to digital instead of analoge. She wants to know if her stockpile of VHS tapes will still work 20 years from now. I told her as long as we have a VCR in the house, and an old-style TV, they can be hooked up to play her tapes. For all I know, even the HDTV's might accept an analog input, but I don't really know the answer to that question.

headroll

10-17-2007, 04:44 PM

kiosan

10-17-2007, 11:49 PM

My goodness. I just read this thread from beginning to end (how sad for me) while listening to a Tivoed film I've been waiting to watch for about a month because my husband wasn't interested (in the film).

Tim, you're a good egg. Mythological even.

I don't believe I've ever seen a thread go on for so long on any BB I've been involved in. Ever. Amazing.

RangersRBack

10-18-2007, 05:01 PM

Polcamilla

10-18-2007, 08:18 PM

Her Now Playing is fairly large, and she has something like 50-60 SPs/WLs! :eek:

There may not be a correlation between the size of the Now Playing and the number of SPs/WLs. We have around 70 on our bedroom TiVo, but that's because it's my 'Museum of Television' -- I refuse to delete shows from the Season Pass Manager that have been cancelled. About 1 in 5 list items is something that is actually still being aired (how sad is *that*?).

How long until your TiVo is fixed? This can only end badly if it doesn't return to you soon!

timckelley

10-18-2007, 10:37 PM

I'm expecting the new power supply tommorrow, so hopefully by tommorrow evening I can fix it. If for some reason (but recent posts in the Upgrade Forum seem to think this is unlikely) I find that my two drives are overwhelming the power supply, I'll cut back to one drive, but then I'll have to redo guided setup, which means it won't be until late Saturday before I can start recording things again on my TiVo.

JaneiR36

10-20-2007, 06:40 PM

Why not take the opportunity to upgrade to Series 2? They've got some excellent prices out right now less than $100 on both Amazon & TiVo's websites. Not sure if those prices are for new subscribers only. Since you know how to change a hard drive, you can upgrade from the 80 hour Series 2 to 250 or whatever. You've mentioned you wish you could do home networking, throw the POS away and take the chance to upgrade your box, now! :)

PS: First post here! New user, too. I mainly registered since I couldn't do an advanced search for one of my TiVo problems without registering. And now that I'm registered I feel the need to make pointless contributions. Wonder how many of your new members have the same problem. :p

timckelley

10-20-2007, 10:12 PM

I'd consider the upgrade to series 2, but my series 1 is lifetime subscribed. Also, bad news: I put in the new power supply, and the exact same problems remain. :mad: This means the problem is not the power supply or the hard drive. :down: I wonder if the motherboard is bad? I'm thinking of calling the manufacturer (Phillips) on Monday when they open to see if I can get some opinions on how I should proceed. :(

StanSimmons

10-21-2007, 12:36 AM

I had Philips "repair" a HDR112 several years ago, they charged me $99 for a swap unit. It shipped from Waco, TX, and was a refurb. I don't know if they have any left these days.

Check your PM's

timckelley

10-21-2007, 10:28 AM

I had Philips "repair" a HDR112 several years ago, they charged me $99 for a swap unit. It shipped from Waco, TX, and was a refurb. I don't know if they have any left these days.

Check your PM's

Thanks for the PM, I actually read it and replied to it before even seeing this post here in this thread.

timckelley

10-22-2007, 03:46 PM

Wow, I have some excellent news. When I called Saturday, they told me I needed to call the manufacturer, Phillips to attempt to get the TiVo fixed, but that since it sounds a lot like my motherboard is kaput, Phillips will most likely replace my TiVo with a new unit, and then TiVo, inc will transfer my lifetime onto it.

Then StanSimmons made the generous offer of gifting me one of his unsubbed Series ones, and I could see if they will transfer my lifetime onto it.

I called Phillips, but they won't let you even talk to anybody about your problem, unless you first pay them $19.

So I decided to call TiVo inc back, and I re-explained my situation. I remember them saying I should get the manufacturer to get me a working box, but I asked them if I got a box from a person (i.e. StanSimmons), instead, could I still transfer lifetime on it?
She put me on hold because she said she wanted to see if I'm even allowed to transfer lifetime. She came back and said they will indeed grant me a one-time special transfer of my lifetime, but here comes the astounding part:

She says it doesn't have to be series one! I can buy a series 2 or even a series 3, and she will transfer my lifetime onto it for free!
:up: :up: :cool: :cool: WOW!

I've come to sort of regret only getting a series 1, and my hindsight regret can now be erased! I made definitely sure to get a case number from her, so that when I call back to get my lifetime transferred, they will not forget the deal we made. :D

My first thought is that a series 2 will do all the extra things I've been wanting to do, but can't currently do. My next thought is that series 2 DT might be nice for those cases where there are conflicts. Those situations don't happen very often at all, but I suppose if I'm ever going to upgrade, now's the time to do it. My final thought is: I wonder if I should get a series 3? I currently subscribe to analog cable, but I'm told there's a bit of HD programming available even with my analog cable (namely the local networks plus KLRU). So if I get a series 3 (correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a series 3 the one that can record in HD quality?), then I will be underutilizing it's abilities, as the vast majority of my content is SD. Furthermore, I don't own an HD TV.

However, about a week or two ago, I started considering purchasing an HD TV because my upstairs TV has such shoddy picture quality. I could just buy a brand-new SD TV, but I feel like HD is the way of the future, and if I'm going to shell out for a new TV, maybe I should go ahead and plan for the future, and get an HD TV.

Also, I'm thinking that even though most of my content right now is SD (via analog cable from Time Warner), that doesn't mean it'll always be that way. If there's a chance I'll eventually get more HD content, I suppose it's possible that 3 or 5 years from now I might regret not having a series 3 TiVo. If I'm ever going to get a series 3, this is my one and only chance to load lifetime onto it for free. But aren't series 3 expensive? I see I need to give this some serious thought.

JustAllie

10-22-2007, 03:50 PM

Tim, you'd be foolish to transfer that to anything other than a TiVoHD. Seriously -- you could turn around and resell it and still make out like a bandit. Or keep it and have the TiVoHD for many years without paying a monthly fee. :up:

timckelley

10-22-2007, 03:53 PM

The other thing is, she said I have to buy retail, and not straight from TiVo, because if I buy from TiVo, it'll already be subscribed. The only retail place I know to buy from is Best Buy, so I guess I should go shopping soon. (By soon, I mean today or tommorrow. :) )

BTW, this lifetime that I currently have on my broken S1 is something I only put there when I heard they were doing away with lifetime. Thanks to this forum, I was warned just in time before they abolished lifetime, and I subbed my S1 with only days to spare before it was too late. Now, because of that, I get to transfer it to a higher TiVo. :D

JustAllie

10-22-2007, 04:11 PM

Don't open the box until the lifetime is transferred to the new TiVo, just in case you have trouble getting the next customer service rep to believe that you were offered this deal. :eek:

timckelley

10-22-2007, 04:22 PM

Don't open the box until the lifetime is transferred to the new TiVo, just in case you have trouble getting the next customer service rep to believe that you were offered this deal. :eek:

That sounds like good advice, but the only risk is that what if the TiVo is defective and I have to take it back to Best Buy? It'd be less complicated to do this if the lifetime wasn't yet transferred. Hopefully they accept returns in the first month even if the box is opened, but I guess I better confirm that first.

JustAllie

10-22-2007, 04:25 PM

That sounds like good advice, but the only risk is that what if the TiVo is defective and I have to take it back to Best Buy? It'd be less complicated to do this if the lifetime wasn't yet transferred. Hopefully they accept returns in the first month even if the box is opened, but I guess I better confirm that first.
Swapping lifetime service from a broken box to another box of the same type is not that hard to swing.

But it does not hurt to verify BestBuy's return policy in any case.

timckelley

10-22-2007, 05:08 PM

This is going to be so nice that for the first time in my life, I'll be able to move shows between our two TiVos. I suppose I should consider the possible drawback down the road, should my wife ever have space problems again, that might think of my TiVo as an overflow storage area. :eek: Hopefully that doesn't happen.

Also, the room I'm thinking of putting my new TiVo in has a cat 5 outlet in it, so I should be able to hardwire it to our network. Unfortunately the other TiVo (an S2 single tuner) is not near a cat5 outlet, so I'd have connect it wirelessly. (It's currently not connected to our network at all.) Fortunately my router supports both wired and wireless connections.)

(BTW, I'm open to negotiation with my wife on who gets which TiVo, but it make sense for mine to be the TiVo HD - which is the model I'm currently leaning towards - because if we get an HD TV, we can save money by letting the upstairs TV be the HD TV, the reason being that I only sit about 5-6 feet from it, which means it's makes sense to get a smaller size screen, which translates into a big $ savings.)

Going from series 1 to HD, two tuners, networking, HMO, etc. This is going to be a huge leap in technology. :)

But it does not hurt to verify BestBuy's return policy in any case.I'm now leaning towards Amazon, because of their lower prices (around $250 for the TiVo HD)

mamosley

10-22-2007, 05:14 PM

I had to go the second tivo route my self. Even though the Mrs. has seen every episode of will and grace, reba, mash and not to mention the rachel ray, montel williams, opra, and ellen degeneras wish lislts the tivo was always full. The tivo was in the bedroom and we had the cable comapany dvr in the living room on the hdtv (couldnt justify the price of the s3 even to myself). Or course she wouldnt watch her shows until I was in bed trying to go to sleep. So once I found out the multi room viewing was coming to the s3 and the tivo hd, out with the cable dvr. Now she wanted to try to set all the same stuff to record in the living room stating she shouldnt have to watch her shows in the bedroom which is funny because she wouldnt touch the cable dvr because it wasnt a tivo. So I got a little mean and deleted all her series recordings and wish lists off the tv hd the put a parental password and even set rated g shows to require pin. Now she cant set her shows when I'm not at home. She tried to complain but I told her she'll just have to wait for mvr feature because I am not about to have to filter thru all her shows.

StanSimmons

10-22-2007, 07:29 PM

One thing to keep in mind....

TiVoHD does not have MultiRoom Viewing yet.

I have been very happy with my S2 Dual Tuner.

JaneiR36

10-22-2007, 08:42 PM

Tim, I just wanted to say, this is such excellent news and I'm very happy for you and your wife!!!!! :)

timckelley

10-22-2007, 08:45 PM

One thing to keep in mind....

TiVoHD does not have MultiRoom Viewing yet.

I have been very happy with my S2 Dual Tuner.
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know about that - I should factor this into my decision.

ZeoTiVo

10-22-2007, 08:47 PM

One thing to keep in mind....

TiVoHD does not have MultiRoom Viewing yet.

I have been very happy with my S2 Dual Tuner.
I am fairly confident of TiVoPony's post that MRV will come to S3/TiVo HD in November.

JYoung

10-23-2007, 01:30 AM

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know about that - I should factor this into my decision.

TiVoJerry also said that MRV will be enabled in November.

I have to agree with the redhead in that you should go ahead and get the TiVoHD or Series 3.

Even if you don't get an HDTV right away, the Series 3 or TiVoHD will hook up to a standard definition TV fine.
And dual tuners rock.

janry

10-23-2007, 05:14 AM

At least your wives will use TiVo. I'm stuck having 3 VCRs hooked up to accommodate my wife's refusal to give TiVo a try.

timckelley

10-23-2007, 09:23 AM

TiVoJerry also said that MRV will be enabled in November.

I have to agree with the redhead in that you should go ahead and get the TiVoHD or Series 3.

Even if you don't get an HDTV right away, the Series 3 or TiVoHD will hook up to a standard definition TV fine.
And dual tuners rock.

Yes, I agree with this reasoning, plus I can see myself having HD TV in the not far future, so I went ahead and ordered a TiVo HD last night from Amazon, for about $253, with no tax and no shipping. :)

At least your wives will use TiVo. I'm stuck having 3 VCRs hooked up to accommodate my wife's refusal to give TiVo a try.Wow. My wife is slow to technology, but she quickly embraced TiVo years ago when I first bought one.

My wife is suggesting the idea of putting the the TiVo HD downstairs in the family room instead of upstairs in the bedroom. My reason for the bedroom is that I sit only about 5-6 feet away from that TV, so if that's the room our eventual HD TV goes, I would probably be happy with a 26 or 27 inch TV. (27 inch is what we have there now.)

My wife's logic is that the downstairs gets more use (mainly because she and my son mainly watch that one, though my wife sometimes watches the bedroom one too. Also, guests would watch the downstairs TV. But to be honest, guests rarely watch our TV anyway, and my son mainly watches shows like the Wiggles, but I suppose that doesn't mean the Wiggles doesn't deserve to be in HD.

I pointed out to her that she sits across the room from that TV, so if that's where we put an HD TV, we'd need a much larger, and therefore, much more expensive TV. However, what's there now is a 27 incher, and she said she's happy with that size, even from that distance. But I'm thinking a 27 inch HD TV, might have less square inches than a 27 inch regular TV, because of the aspect ratio, plus if a lot of content that hits is is going to be SD content, doesn't it chop off the left and right sides, effectively making the 27 inches into a much smaller TV? I'm therefore thinking that just to keep what she's used to, we'd need more than 27 inches.

But I'm not close minded. If she is truly going to be satisfied with 27 inches downstairs, I'll consider it, and then I'll move her TV up to the bedroom, which btw, gives a much nicer picture than the one in the bedroom currently does. Plus her TV supports closed captioning, while mine doesn't, so that would be another improvement. I'm thinking we should visit a store, and look at some TVs and then sit an appropriate distance away from it, and then I'll ask her what she thinks of that size. Maybe then she'd really know how many inches she can live with or without, and then if she says yes, we need 40+ inches or something, then putting the HDTV in the bedroom might make more sense to her.

One other point to consider is that I'd be happy with an LCD (as opposed to plasma) HDTV in the bedroom, because I normally sit squarely in front of it. I'm told that plasmas are good from watching from any angle, whereas LCDs aren't (you need to be in front). But (I could be wrong) I think plasmas are more expensive, and I'm not sure everybody downstairs sits directly in front of that TV. So this could be another financial argument for upstairs instead of downstairs.

Oh, and my final point is that her S2 has a 250 GB drive in it. I don't think the TiVo HD has quite that big a drive, but admittedly, it's upgradable to potentially have a lot more than that.

bryus

10-23-2007, 09:54 AM

At least your wives will use TiVo. I'm stuck having 3 VCRs hooked up to accommodate my wife's refusal to give TiVo a try.

Wow, that's just archaic. My wife and I were visiting my sister and I spent about an hour playing with her Hughes DirecTiVo box. I had been wanting TiVo since it first came out but never could justify the cost. The time I spent with it convinced my wife that this was a good thing and me that I could never watch TV the old fashioned way again.

Within a week I had made the calls to switch from Dish to DirecTV and I haven't been without TiVo since. My wife can't stand to watch live TV and I think we would give up a lot before we would give up our TiVo.

Tim,

I have a 27" TV in my living room. I have the same concern as you. How do I keep the same size image?

After eyeballing them in the store it looks like it would take a 37" to 42" 16:9 screen to provide the same height as a 27" 4:3 screen.

ZeoTiVo

10-23-2007, 10:13 AM

Here is a link with a straight forward look at HD size vs SD size.
http://www.highdefinitionblog.com/?page_id=92

and Cnet overview gets into specific viewing distances and size of various TV types etc..
http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5108580-2.html

PS -I am stuck on how 3 VCRs could be seen as preferable to one DVR and a now playing list but Mileage does vary as they say

JYoung

10-23-2007, 11:51 AM

Yes, I agree with this reasoning, plus I can see myself having HD TV in the not far future, so I went ahead and ordered a TiVo HD last night from Amazon, for about $253, with no tax and no shipping. :)

Well apparently, Jerry and Pony lied.
TTG and MRV for Series 3 and THD was turned on today.

:D

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=371193

JustAllie

10-23-2007, 12:58 PM

Well apparently, Jerry and Pony lied.
TTG and MRV for Series 3 and THD was turned on today.

:D

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=371193
Sweet!

Now I want to go home early and transfer shows just for the heck of it. :D

ashu

10-23-2007, 02:43 PM

Happy for ya, timckelley :)

ZeoTiVo

10-23-2007, 03:03 PM

I am fairly confident of TiVoPony's post that MRV will come to S3/TiVo HD in November.
well so much for being confident it would be November. ;)

JYoung

10-23-2007, 03:49 PM

Sweet!

Now I want to go home early and transfer shows just for the heck of it. :D

Since I'm working from home for a couple of reasons today, I don't have to rush home to MRV....

JustAllie

10-23-2007, 04:10 PM

well so much for being confident it would be November. ;)
The problem is that they've now set up an expectation of beating deadlines in the future. Heh heh.... :D

ZeoTiVo

10-24-2007, 09:33 AM

The problem is that they've now set up an expectation of beating deadlines in the future. Heh heh.... :D

Hmm, maybe TiVoPony knew it was before Halloween all along :eek:

RoyK

10-24-2007, 09:40 AM

The problem is that they've now set up an expectation of beating deadlines in the future. Heh heh.... :D

Anyone can beat a deadline if you don't mind leaving a lot of wreckage behind.

timckelley

10-24-2007, 09:43 AM

Anyone can beat a deadline if you don't mind leaving a lot of wreckage behind.So this new release is going to be bug-filled? I hope not.

RoyK

10-24-2007, 09:47 AM

So this new release is going to be bug-filled? I hope not.

I can't speak for 9.2 - we S2 owners are the ones stuck with the wreckage. Don't tell me - I know the "hang in there - TiVo will fix it soon" motto by heart. ;)

ZeoTiVo

10-24-2007, 11:43 AM

Anyone can beat a deadline if you don't mind leaving a lot of wreckage behind.

Glad my 5 S2 TiVo DVRs sailed into 9.1 with smooth waters and full sails :)

timckelley

10-24-2007, 11:56 AM

5?!?!? :eek: :eek: :eek: :D
Update: I got an email from Amazon yesteday evening that they shipped, and the TiVoHD is estimated for arrival today. :cool:

I'd be surpised if it could ship that fast, though.

Havana Brown

10-24-2007, 03:44 PM

My goodness. I just read this thread from beginning to end .

Excellent work for a newbie. :up:

Enrique

10-26-2007, 06:39 AM

Is this the longest running thread in TCF history? almost 4 1/2 years!!

timckelley

10-26-2007, 10:25 AM

Update: two days ago, around 8 PM, I received the TiVo HD from Amazon, which was a pleasant shock to me that they shipped so fast, considering it was free shipping, and they say the price for free shipping is 3 to 5 day delay.

I hooked it up that night, and overnight imported guide data and did guided setup.

Then yesterday, I called TiVo to transfer lifetime onto it, and the guy asked me again why I was getting this done. I reminded him I had a case number, and he asked, "so is this because Phillips would have charged you a lot to fix the old TiVo?" At this point, I started to get worried that they were going to give me some flack on this issue. I told him the truth, "No, they wanted $20 to even talk to me about it, so I called TiVo and told them about the troubleshooting I'd already done. I ruled out the power supply because I bought a new one and installed it. I also ruled out the hard drives drawing too much power, because I tried disconnecting power to the HDs, and not even the fan would spin when powering up. Based the likely problem being the motherboard, your colleague went ahead and authorized this transfer, and created the case number to document it."

He then asked where I bought it, and I told him Amazon, which I also got preauthorized from TiVo inside that case number before buying it.

At this point (suspense building :D ) said, "Okay, that's fine. Let me see if I can do this." After a few minutes he said he thinks he successfully transfered it, and told me to wait a couple of hours to see this.

Later last night, I forced a call in to TiVo from my TiVoHD, and after doing so, I checked the system info, and
Behold! Subscription status = Lifetime!

So I've succeeded in my mission. :D I'm now the enviable owner of a lifetimed TiVo HD, and there was no fee to transfer my lifetime over. :p

On another note, I'm wondering if one reason they were so generous to me is because during the whole time before they authorized the transfer, I let them know I was happy to go through whatever channels, if necessary, to get the S1 repaired or replaced, rather than junk it and start a new activation on an S2 or S3. Had I had my heart set on an S2 or S3, they would have known they could have forced me to pay for a new activation (i.e. a monthly fee), and there was nothing I could have done about it. But in this case, they already knew they weren't going to get any monthly fee out of me, so maybe it made them more willing to authorize the transfer. I'm just speculating, wondering why some people are less successful than others in getting this sort of cooperation.

ZeoTiVo

10-26-2007, 01:33 PM

I'm just speculating, wondering why some people are less successful than others in getting this sort of cooperation.
Nice guys do not alwasy finish last. Enjoy the TiVo HD :up:

JustAllie

10-26-2007, 02:03 PM

Is this the longest running thread in TCF history? almost 4 1/2 years!!
When it hits 1,000 posts, though, Tim will have to start a new thread. Or his wife will have to start deleting recordings. :D

Polcamilla

10-30-2007, 01:02 AM

So.....where's the new TiVo going? Upstairs or down?

I'm curious because it seems like your wife has an uncanny knack for always negotiating the better deal for herself.

timckelley

10-30-2007, 09:14 AM

For now, based on the fact that her series 2 has 250GB, but this new one has a bit less than that, and based on the fact that her TiVo already has all her season passes on it, we put the new one upstairs. The other argument that makes sense is that the TiVo HD comes with a built in ethernet port, and the upstairs room has an ethernet outlet already in it. I also, along with the new TiVo, bought a USB network adapter to put on the downstairs TiVo. For the time being, we're not using these, because our internet has been down for almost a week, and has been scheduled to come back up anyday now. (Maybe today if we're lucky.) If we just have to switch out the TiVos, that means I'd move the wireless adaptor to the TiVo HD, but then I'd need to buy a wired adapter for the S2.

We still haven't completely agreed on where the new TV will go whenever we get around to buying an HD TV though, but I expect the HD TiVo to follow that TV. (Post 587 shows the pros and cons of the two possible scenarios.) I'm thinking we'll eventually resume this conversation after we see some price tags. She might start to see it my way, because that's one thing we agree on - not to spend huge amounts of money.

JYoung

10-30-2007, 01:57 PM

She hasn't realized that it's dual tuner yet, has she?

timckelley

10-30-2007, 02:23 PM

She hasn't realized that it's dual tuner yet, has she?

Good point. Just yesterday I told her how nice it was that when I pad a show out 5 minutes, causing it to want to clip an adjacent show, that clipping is no longer an issue, because it can use the dual tuners to avoid clippage. :D

So I guess she knows about it. So far she hasn't acted too envious.

(P.S. The fact that clipping is even available is a luxury for me, because my old S1 didn't have clipping as a feature.)

I'm also really liking the the folder feature, and it's nice when I open a folder, to see a screen devoted to the SP, with each row showing the ep name. This is so much nicer than the S1 was.

old64mb

10-30-2007, 04:08 PM

Caught up on this thread over lunch, tried not to spit anything out from laughing or shaking my head. I do hope counseling has helped, and if you're seeing one still please do mention what you did with the SP transfer. Possibly just amusing, but there could be other issues involved on your end.

On a less important note, upgrade your THD to 750 GB or 1 TB ASAP.

It will allow periodic archiving of things from your wife's S2 (with the nice equilibrium of how it takes time to do so, in which case she and you actually have to talk about it and can't do it spontaneously - important for both of you I'm betting) and more importantly you'll proactively head off any issues on how much space HD takes up - since I can easily see that coming down the pipe.

I should note that one recent petty pleasure that I had was cutting off service on the S2 I left with my now-ex once the year long S3 transfer was about to run out. She may not have even been using it recently, given she was overseas. More than likely, my generosity in keeping it going wasn't noticed as I suspect it's been in storage.

But...given the amount of grief I went through about how attached I was to Tivo, along with her screams of bloody murder if 'her' shows weren't recorded as she quickly became addicted despite continuing to complain about how I couldn't live without it...let her live without it or confront how she liked the thing too - by paying for it. The CSR and I had a good laugh about it.

Best of luck.

timckelley

01-25-2008, 12:49 PM

At the risk of irritating some who think this thread has gone on too long, I thought it might be a good idea to post a relevant new development that's been going on. My wife has discovered our new MRV feature. (Is MRV the right term? I'm referring to the ability to move shows from one TiVo to another.)

My wife seems to enjoy watching TV at nighttime after our son goes to bed, which is also when I like to watch TV. (She used to do most of her TV watching at daytime, but this seems to have changed now.) At this time she's in our bedroom, but many times she beats me to the bedroom because sometimes I have work to do on the computer before I'm ready to retire to the bedroom to watch my TiVo.

Before, she's just watched some my shows with me, but since I've bought the TiVoHD, and also bought a wireless adapter for her TiVo S2, this means that for the first time in our lives, MRV is now available. So I've been finding more and more of her shows being transferred onto my TiVo :eek:

Now I don't blame her for wanting to watch TV in the bedroom, and I expect her to make some use of this feature. But I told her that I'd rather she only transfer what she intends to watch that night. I'd rather her not convert my TiVo into a repository for shows that she'll eventually watch.

She counters with comments that she has some shows she thinks I'll like, so she takes the liberty of moving them onto my TiVo so that I'll have the benefit of having them there. I guess sometimes she's right, but often times they're shows I really don't want. As of yesterday, I think there was a bit over a screen worth of her shows on my TiVo. We watched and/or deleted some, so now it's a bit under one screen worth.

I think I've had to remind her of the ground rules more than once in the last month, so hopefully this will sink in, but I see I should keep monitoring my TiVo, just to make sure it doesn't get out of hand with too many of her shows on it. In fact, two days ago, I was ready to go up and watch my TiVo, but she was watching one of her transferred shows and I decided I had no interest in it, so I went down to her TiVo to transfer one of my shows down to it so I could watch it.

Unfortunately, all my shows are in Best Quality, so they transfer slowly, so while I was waiting I found one of her shows that interested me, and watched it instead. (Her Now Playing is huge, so there's a fair chance that there's something on it that I'll like.)

Anyway, I think that was the only time I wanted to watch my TiVo but couldn't due to her watching something I didn't like, so it's not too bad a problem right now. I suppose one solution is to swap TiVos. Since she enjoys watching TV in the bedroom so much, that could work. But there's still a lot of my shows on my TiVo that she likes too, so this idea of swapping maybe isn't the best idea. I guess we'll stay like we are for now. Last night I told her to stop transferring shows until she watches / deletes some of what's already there. :)

Overall, I'm enjoying the new TiVo though. Like I said, only once die I effectively get kicked off of it, but many many nights I've been watching my own shows on my own TiVo without a problem. :cool:

JustAllie

01-25-2008, 01:15 PM

Tim, if she transfers something to your TiVo, you can delete it whenever you want to. If she wants to watch it on another day, she can transfer it again. A whole screen full of stuff she might want to watch is excessive.

And start recording most things at High quality. It's a perfectly fine quality unless you have a really large television or watch high-action stuff. And it transfers faster. I get just about real-time transfers, making it possible to start transferring something and then start watching it right away.

Lensman

01-25-2008, 01:15 PM

Hey, Tim. For the record, I love your saga!

Have you established that you can do whatever you want with your Tivo? That is, delete any shows there?

janry

01-25-2008, 01:20 PM

Time to turn MRV off except when you need it. Tell her TiVo turned the feature off due to a bug. If you wife is like mine (very lo tech), she will buy it.

Thank goodness my wife can't MRV her VCR tapes to my TiVos.

ZeoTiVo

01-25-2008, 01:21 PM

OK- first let me say again I find it odd that the two of you can not just see the TiVo DVRs as community prperty

now since you have deisginated them as his and hers
again I am reading how she slowly creeps onto your space and starts to control it. She should just MRV the show she is going to watch but she obviously is still obsessed with keeping as many shows around as possible. She may feel out of control in delaing with your son's illness and thus seeks control in other areas. I know when my Daughter had a serious illness(all better now :)) I built a big playfort in the back yard as my therapy, the one place I could control how things went as I built it from my own plans.

Now as to the specific issue of MRV - you could go into the IP settings on your TiVo and fudge it so the two do not see each other adn then set it back when you need it. A bit of hassle though.
You could do the kidzone feature I suggested a while back. There is no view of other TiVo DVRs so no MRV in Kid Zone. A simple password entered by you would let her use the full TiVo and MRV but you cancontrol the when and cut her off if needed. Of course this would be a direct confrontation of her control.

also
you could stop using BEST and use HIGH instead. there really is little visible difference but a huge difference in size and thus space on the TiVo and MRV speed. I use HIGH even on TiVo DVRs with 500 gig of space.
Which brings up the idea of getting the DVR expander for your TiVo HD to add 500 gig easy as plugging it in.

of course saving/adding sapce as always does not address the real issue of your wife always seeming to encroach no matter the setup.

timckelley

01-25-2008, 02:10 PM

I guess you're probably right that I shouldn't be so worried about space as it's easily expandable, especially on the TiVoHD. I think yesterday I was down to 20 suggestions, so there's no certainly no crisis in progress. But sometimes I do like to have a good number of suggestions so something good is in them for me to watch, so that's part of my space concern. Also, I just wanted to make sure the one screen of her stuff doesn't turn into 2 or 3 screens, because that could be a problem.

As for why it's not community property: I think it's because she records such a huge amount of stuff, that separating our TiVos ensures I have enough space, and also that I don't have conflicts. Now that I have dual tuner, I suppose conflicts aren't nearly as big a problem as before.

But JustAllie's idea is a good one: if I wind up having too much of her stuff, I should be able to delete some with no problem, because she can always retransfer it. If it comes to that I may try that, but I think I should warn her before I actually do it.

I guess I'll try out High Quality to see what I think. Years ago, I stopped doing it because I thought Best Quality was noticably better. I guess I'll do another test and see what I think. If we get an HD TV though, I assume there's not really a way to save on space when HD content is being recorded. That would really be a test of our space management abilities if/when that happens.

JYoung

01-25-2008, 02:17 PM

It's your TiVo, you can delete her MRVs when you want if she insists on transfering stuff.

OK- first let me say again I find it odd that the two of you can not just see the TiVo DVRs as community prperty

Quite a few couples have his and her TiVos.

also
you could stop using BEST and use HIGH instead. there really is little visible difference but a huge difference in size and thus space on the TiVo and MRV speed. I use HIGH even on TiVo DVRs with 500 gig of space.
Which brings up the idea of getting the DVR expander for your TiVo HD to add 500 gig easy as plugging it in.

I used Medium quality for most shows when I watched primarily on a standard TV.

of course saving/adding sapce as always does not address the real issue of your wife always seeming to encroach no matter the setup.

Too true.

JYoung

01-25-2008, 02:24 PM

If we get an HD TV though, I assume there's not really a way to save on space when HD content is being recorded. That would really be a test of our space management abilities if/when that happens.

Yep.
Depending on the HD feed, a one hour show will consume 4.3 to 7.1 GB of disk space.
The stated capacity of the stock TiVo HD is 20 hours or HD recording.

(I really need to expand the drive on mine.)

classicX

01-25-2008, 03:52 PM

She counters with comments that she has some shows she thinks I'll like, so she takes the liberty of moving them onto my TiVo so that I'll have the benefit of having them there.

That sounds like womanspeak to me.

I'm no expert, but I think the translation is as follows:

"I want you to start watching more shows that I like so I can feel free to fill up your TiVo."

BTW - I can't believe this thread is still alive. Is this a record?

classicX

01-25-2008, 03:57 PM

Just transfer one of your shows to her TiVo for every show she transfers to yours - when her older stuff starts getting deleted early, she'll stop that quickly.

alyssa

01-25-2008, 04:16 PM

That sounds like womanspeak to me.

WOMANSPEAK !?!?

Tim- get the Esata drive, preferably one for each unit. In this case bigger is better.
;)

JustAllie

01-25-2008, 04:24 PM

But JustAllie's idea is a good one: if I wind up having too much of her stuff, I should be able to delete some with no problem, because she can always retransfer it. If it comes to that I may try that, but I think I should warn her before I actually do it.You can use the network to double-check that the program is still on her other TiVo before you delete it. I think it's perfectly fair for you to delete stuff willy-nilly from your TiVo if it's still available on her TiVo. As I said, she can re-transfer it. The first time you do it, tell her that's the plan.

If she's moving, say, 5 shows to your TiVo so that you'll both have a bunch of shows to choose from to watch together that night, then do your deleting the next morning rather than just before you settle down to watch TV together.

ZeoTiVo

01-25-2008, 04:32 PM

In this case bigger is better.
;)

now that is Womanplainspeak :D

classicX

01-25-2008, 04:39 PM

In this case bigger is better.
;)

What do you mean, "in this case?"

mattack

01-25-2008, 10:22 PM

Next time, on As the Tivo Turns...

handy

01-26-2008, 10:19 AM

My wife had a 40 & 80. Mine is a Toshiba 160 w/burner. After watchin a show with her one night, I mentioned that it looked terrible. She was using basic to hold everything. My solution was to upgrade both to 500 & 300. I used the old drives in my computers. Don't be scared to install them, it's easy. Life is good.

JYoung

01-26-2008, 08:47 PM

WOMANSPEAK !?!?

Tim- get the Esata drive, preferably one for each unit. In this case bigger is better.
;)

The Mrs.' TiVo is a plain Series 2 so I don't think that an eSATA drive will work without serious modification.....

alyssa

01-26-2008, 09:14 PM

The Mrs.' TiVo is a plain Series 2 so I don't think that an eSATA drive will work without serious modification.....

true, adding a second hd to a series 2 is a bit more complicated but tim's been around so he's up to it. right tim?

pilotbob

01-26-2008, 09:55 PM

This thread clearly illustrates "Paralysis of Analysis".

timckelley

01-26-2008, 10:20 PM

true, adding a second hd to a series 2 is a bit more complicated but tim's been around so he's up to it. right tim?

Yes, I know how to add drives, but I don't think we're at this point right now. My wife hasn't run out of space. The latest chapter of "As the TiVo Turns" (as mattack puts it :D ) is not that she's running out of space, but that she's starting to transfer more and more stuff onto my TiVo. Her motivation, I don't think, is to access my empty hard drive space, but rather it's to give her the flexibility to watch stuff upstairs or downstairs.

I suppose this is reasonable, as long as she doesn't dump excessively onto my TiVo.

alyssa

01-27-2008, 03:36 PM

ZeoTiVo

01-27-2008, 03:52 PM

Perhaps a 'time on my tivo' limit might be of use. for example- she can transfer something for a few days but you have permission to delete it after a couple of days.
I would suggest you need to define the "when I can delete a show off my tivo" point.

As to the womanspeak issue, you all might find this funny http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1059025/tale_of_two_brains/

TiVo DVRs default time limit is 2 days - and the icons easily show when something is set as "able to delete" for space needed. They could go with those keep until settings and any special case that might come up - a movie she wants to watch together could be set at Keep Until 7 days for instance.

The danger in this is that it allows encroachmnet on his TiVo and might inlcine her to go encroach even further.

retired_guy

01-27-2008, 06:00 PM

It's just me and my wife at home and we have 4.

we've got five for the two of us and a sixth I've loaned to my daughter. I also keep recordings on my PCs.

My wife keeps not only programs she hasn't seen, but anything she's seen and she thinks she may want to see again (for some series, such as "First 48 Hours", that means every episode), along with anything she thinks my daughter would like to see when she comes over. Not that we actually watch much a second time.

I've been married almost 50 years and don't have a lot of faith in her changing her ways. Since the Pioneer is a DVD recorder she has generated trillions of bytes of recordings. I don't think I'll see large enough disks anytime soon. Sometimes you should have to take the good with the bad. Ulcer medicines can help.

alyssa

01-27-2008, 11:18 PM

The danger in this is that it allows encroachment on his TiVo and might incline her to go encroach even further.

Tim, you've got to set the rules before it goes too far. Give the spouses an inch and they'll end up with a mile.
See retired guys post for the ultimate in end games-

Initially I owned all the tivos in our house, they were therefor mine. Then the S3 came along, due to the cost I let my husband pay half. For the next three months we had heated discussions about me occasionally using both tuners, half of the tivo being his & all that hooie.

He couldn't plop in front of the TV & flip channels when I had programed both of the tuners. so I set up a TV input for straight cable but he couldn't be bothered with that, "to complicated" was the response. Mind you he's no slouch in the smarts department, web designer, musician & climbing guide etc.:rolleyes:

We finally reached an agreement of me programing in the sports shows & him learning how to really operate the tivo/TV and be bloody well respectful of my programing.

JYoung

01-27-2008, 11:39 PM

TiVo DVRs default time limit is 2 days - and the icons easily show when something is set as "able to delete" for space needed. They could go with those keep until settings and any special case that might come up - a movie she wants to watch together could be set at Keep Until 7 days for instance.

The danger in this is that it allows encroachmnet on his TiVo and might inlcine her to go encroach even further.

It's not like the Mrs. has a history of abusing the KUID .......

classicX

01-28-2008, 07:53 AM

Does TiVo have an option to password protect "keep until I delete" recordings? In other words, you need to put in a password in order to delete any recorder that says "keep until I delete"?

Then, if you were to do this to all of your SPs, you would basically be prioritizing your shows as far as the TiVo is concerned, and if space is an issue, it would automatically delete her transfers first.

timckelley

01-28-2008, 08:55 AM

Fortunately, her list of transfers has shrunk to half a screen over the weekend. :) Partly this is because I had more work than usual to do at nightime, and during this time she watched and deleted some of her transferred stuff. I assume she's also deleting it off her own TiVo, now that she's watched the shows.

pilotbob

01-28-2008, 10:12 AM

Then the S3 came along, due to the cost I let my husband pay half.

I never understood this mentality. Since I've been married it (all income) has been "our" money... and all purchases were "our" things.

I have heard the "our money" (what he earns) and "her money" (what she earns) and say it jokeingly at times. But, my wife and I consider ourselfs as a true partnership so I couldn't pay for "half" of something.

Sorry to be off topic... or is it?

BOb

jmpivo

01-28-2008, 10:50 AM

Like many on this thread, we faced the same issue once the wifey got all tech-geekie and learned to Tivo. I remembered the old quip about a dude wanting to be correct or happy. I chose the latter but told my beloved that I wanted a new TIVO for Xmas. She was eager to please (or to get her own Tivo) and I have a spanking new S2DT now also on the home LAN. She keeps all her Season pass stuff on the family room Tivo (S2) and I have all my season pass stuff on the S2DT in my office. I happily sit next to her while she watches Desperately (Insane) Housewives, HGTV, Design this & that, Fashion whatever, etc while I'm warping to some SciFi world wirelessly using the Tivo Desktop on my laptop and earbuds. I just know at some point, she'll tap me on the shoulder and say she's run out of space but I already have my response in hand... and it will be a dubious 'well that sux, how about an upgrade for your birthday'!
-jeff.
p.s. Thanks for all the laughs in this thread too.

timckelley

01-28-2008, 10:52 AM

Sorry to be off topic... or is it?

I also consider our money to be jointly owned, but you can understand how a TiVo might not be. For example, her purse is hers, and not 'ours', because only she uses it.

This being said, I confess that sometimes, I get the impression that she considers some money to be 'hers' and not 'ours', but I don't agree with that concept.

Polcamilla

07-23-2008, 02:57 AM

Tim--

You missed your semi-annual bump. How are things on your TiVoHD?

guppies

07-23-2008, 04:33 AM

I've got an 80 hour series two TiVo. We've several season passes, with the option: "Keep until I delete". I've watched everything I want, and am ready to delete, but my wife is severely behind on watching the programs. The TiVo is almost full now, and often when I try to schedule a new program it says it can't schedule because it's out of memory.

(Actually, it's projecting that by the time the show airs, it'll be out of memory because of the "To Do" list, but as the season's really over now, the only stuff in my To Do list are 3 season passes my wife has set up for our 3 year old son -- educational cartoons. These are also "keep until I delete", but my wife has agreed to let me archive these to VHS as soon as they record. Therefore, by the time my desired shows will air, the TiVo really won't be out of memory, but it doesn't know that. A solution is for me to wait until just before the air date, and then schedule a recording.)

My wife is unwilling to delete anything, because she wants to watch it all. (There's quite a prodigious amount recorded right now.) She also doesn't know when she'll have time to watch stuff. She won't change "Keep until I delete" to an expiration date, because she can't guarantee when she'll watch the stuff. Our TiVo is effectively no longer an 80 hour TiVo, but a 6-7 hour TiVo, and it's still shrinking. Soon I'll be TiVoless. [sounds of shocked awe]. She's jeopardizing my TiVo experience. Solutions?

:p You can archive the shows you have watched on the VRC as well. If she complains about the quality, then tell her she can watch them right away. After you archive them, take the "keep until I delete" off. This way if she watches it before it is deleted she will be happy and you will have room to tape more.

I tape more than my hubby does sohe bought me my own HD Tivo for my birthday. This way I can tape what I want and leave it there for as long as I want!

Good Luck!:D

guppies

07-23-2008, 04:36 AM

You can also add a SATA Drive. Just buy the largest one you can. If she fills that up then there is no hope!

jilter

07-23-2008, 10:33 AM

I have a S3. Can you "add" a drive to that?

timckelley

07-23-2008, 12:09 PM

Tim--

You missed your semi-annual bump. How are things on your TiVoHD?

[/looks around for RangersRBack, but see's that the coast is clear to post an update, because he's not here. :D]

My wife has pretty much stopped transferring her shows to my TiVo, as she does almost all of her TV watching on her TiVo now. But I still probably have about 10 or so hours of her shows that have been sitting on my TiVo for months now. I don't really have a space problem, though sometimes I've kind of wanted more suggestions that I have. If it bugs me too much, I guess I could try offloading them through my network to one of our computers. (I assume this is possible.)

Or buy a SATA drive, but I hate to spend money for something I don't really need that much. Just yesterday I reminded my wife of these shows that have stagnated and just sat in my NP for months. I said "How about I transfer them back to your TiVO?" But she doesn't want that, because even with all the space she's got since I upgraded her, she has filled up most of it! :eek: She doesn't have a lot of room for new shows. I also think part of her backlog is General Hospital again.

I could have sworn that when I first gave her all that space, she said she wouldn't fill it up. Well, she is currently not moving shows to my TiVo, so my castle for the moment not being invaded. :D

imasofa777

07-23-2008, 01:14 PM

I guess I could try offloading them through my network to one of our computers.

Yes you could, just make sure you have TiVo desktop installed on one of your home computers and you could transfer all of her stuff off of your TiVo. You could also use it to archive things of your own, movies, series etc.

ZeoTiVo

07-23-2008, 03:23 PM

But I still probably have about 10 or so hours of her shows that have been sitting on my TiVo for months now. Hopefully set to "Keep until space needed" so all it mucks with is your suggestions

Keep in mind if you setup offloading shows to the PC, your wife will figure out hat she can store lots of shows that way. I would just keep her on her TiVo and let her shows roll off your TiVo if need be.

timckelley

07-23-2008, 03:27 PM

Yes, her shows are KUSN, thankfully. But these last couple of days I did go fishing in suggestions for something to watch, and nothing appealed to me, but it's possible that even had her shows been gone, the selections might not have been much better.

I've been slacking for months now with my thumbing, so maybe suggestions isn't doing as good a job as it could be.

ZeoTiVo

07-23-2008, 05:46 PM

Polcamilla

07-23-2008, 08:28 PM

I've been slacking for months now with my thumbing, so maybe suggestions isn't doing as good a job as it could be.

Maybe you've already watched everything. :D

JimSpence

07-24-2008, 02:28 PM

...
I tape more than my hubby does sohe bought me my own HD Tivo for my birthday. This way I can tape what I want and leave it there for as long as I want!

Good Luck!:DWhat is this tape you mention? :p

Sorry, it's been a while since I've been able to ask that question.:D

timckelley

09-14-2008, 12:07 AM

Today my wife has told me she might want to get a third TiVo for the house. :eek:

I suggested "How about I up the space on your TiVo?", but her reasoning for the 3rd TiVo is that sometimes my son wants to watch the Wiggles on her TiVo at the same time she wants to watch something, so she thought she could put the third TiVo in the living room so she can watch it while my son watches TV in the family room.

Since most of the other stuff besides "The Wiggles" that my son watches is on DVD, I figured an unsubbed S1 would be good enough for him, and to just have a manual repeating recording get him a constant supply of recent Wiggles episodes.

But I guess this idea won't work, because my wife wants the option to also watch her stuff in the family room when my son isn't watching that TV (meaning one TiVo will be exclusively for my wife, and another would be split between wife and son - the third is upstairs and pretty much my TiVo), and I don't think it will be acceptable for any of my wife's content to be on an unsubbed S1.

I don't really like the idea of shelling the $ out for a 3rd lifetime sub and a brand new 3rd TiVo. The conversation sort of ended today with no plans to buy a 3rd TiVo, and my wife didn't press it, because she realizes the money end of her wish, but I worry based on multitudes of past discussions about things my wife wants, that if I ignore it, it keeps resurfacing and resurfacing in future discussions, and then eventually mushrooms to point that if I don't agree to buy it, she gets really disappointed and hard to live with until I concede.

At this point, it's too soon to say if that will happen here, or if she will decide the luxury isn't worth the $ and just forget about it, so we'll see what happens. Stay tuned to a future episode of "As the timckelley's TiVo Situation Turns" to find out what happens. :p :D :p

alyssa

09-14-2008, 12:05 PM

.....but I worry based on multitudes of past discussions about things my wife wants, that if I ignore it, it keeps resurfacing and resurfacing in future discussions, and then eventually mushrooms to point that if I don't agree to buy it, she gets really disappointed and hard to live with until I concede.
...... Stay tuned to a future episode of "As the timckelley's TiVo Situation Turns" to find out what happens.

Way better than a soap tho!
Sounds like you've got till Christmas to figure something out based on my female intuition.:D
so in the glass half full mode-She gave you a big hint of something to get her for Christmas.

JYoung

09-14-2008, 03:12 PM

netringer

09-14-2008, 03:19 PM

Upgrade.

Your wife preferrably, but upgrading your TiVo should work almost as well.

That only delays the inevitable. Trust me.

I added 1TB and was thinking that was like infinite space, so I added and extended every season pass I could imagine, until it started deleting stuff a week later.

Now I try to hold down it to 100 season passes. :D

Brighton Line

09-15-2008, 10:57 AM

timckelley

09-15-2008, 11:05 AM

Actually we do have some Wiggles DVDs, which my son sometimes watches. I can ask her, but I have a feeling that in the morning while's she's getting herself and my son ready for school she thinks it's easier to use the TiVo than to bother inserting a DVD, waiting for it to load in DVD memory, then usign the menu commands to get the video started.

But there's a greater issue at stake than how my son can watch the Wiggles. As I said, there are times that she wants to be able to watch her TiVo stuff in the living room while my son watches the TV in the family room (whether it be DVD or TiVo is irrelevant), and there are other times she wants to watch her TiVo stuff in the family room. For now things seem okay, since it's been two days since she brought this up, and it hasn't resurfaced, but it might eventually though.

MickeS

09-15-2008, 11:35 AM

Yes. You need a third TiVo. Sorry. ;)

ZeoTiVo

09-15-2008, 11:54 AM

I go with buying the DVD or just burn some DVD's yourself. I use to tape everything of the Purple Thing for my newphew when he was young, made tapes for him (Tapes?? What's that) so he could watch it whenever on whatever.
Heck, now I could just give him the laptop and he could watch how to say Thank You all day long. ;)

in the words of baby Bop - "Fill it up 1, Fill it up 2, Fill it up 3"

You might as well just get the third DVR* as she has a somewhat legit reason she can use to work on you with. After that she will not and you can stand firmer on her not using your TiVo.

*Disclaimer - I have 6 running TiVo DVRs for various uses in the house and my 4 kids - so I may be biased toward just getting a 3rd DVR ;)

timckelley

10-09-2008, 11:06 PM

Update on the situation.

My wife's recently deleted folder has hit absolute zero. She has totally and completely used up all the space on her TiVo. :eek:

She's now losing shows unless she watches something every day to make room. In fact, she's been doing a little of that, and also a little of actually choosing something to delete, because she doesn't want the TiVo to make that choice on her behalf.

I applaud her ability to actually delete something without watching it. This is a new landmark development that strikes to the heart of the OP of this long and nobel thread, "Wife won't delete recordings". After all the years since this thread started, she finally has done it! :D

But let me say, she just deleted only a little bit - just enough so her To Do list will still record.

At the same time all this has been happening, I've been making a deal with one of our other TCFers here, who has nicely offered to sell me one of her lifetimed TiVos. She gave me permission to mention her name, by the way: jenhudson. She apparantly had an extra TiVo that's been sitting in her closet unused, so she sold it to me.

It's just a series 2, but that's fine, as we have no HD TVs in the house anyway, and even if we ever get one, one of our other TiVos is HD capable anyhow. But the TiVo she sold me (at a reasonable price) also has it's hard drive already upgraded to the same size as the one my wife already had. (System info says up to 340 hours, which I assume is at basic quality). So this doubles my wife's space. I just set up this TiVo a few minutes ago.

But like my wife said, it's not just the extra space she sought, but now when my son is watching TV in one room, she can now watch her TV in the other, so she feels this will give her more of a chance to watch her content and stop it from piling up so much.

If she somehow fills up both her TiVos, then that will just seem whacked out to me, and I can't see an argument for further increasing her space after that. Surely she can live within the generous amount of space she now has. If not, I'll be pretty interested to hear her excuse.

timckelley

07-27-2009, 02:30 PM

(bump)

I haven't looked closely, but I know she has many screens worth of movies sitting in NP on her second TiVo. She does watch some stuff on the second TiVo, but I think she uses it for storage and conflict resolution more than actually watching stuff. She's mainly using the second TiVo to store movies, and she keeps specials, series, and other nonmovie stuff on the primary TiVo. It's possible that she's filled up both TiVos :eek:, but I'm not really sure of that. I guess I could go look and see how much free space she actually has on it. I know that the primary TiVo she shares with our son does hover around zero free space, but there are always a few shows on it in NP for my son to watch, so she is indeed sharing it with him. He still watches DVDs too though (and, hard as it to believe, a few VHS tapes as well).

Tim, you'd be foolish to transfer that [my lifetime from my old broken S1] to anything other than a TiVoHD. Seriously -- you could turn around and resell it and still make out like a bandit. Or keep it and have the TiVoHD for many years without paying a monthly fee. :up:

I have to agree with the redhead in that you should go ahead and get the TiVoHD or Series 3.

In hindsight, this is all excellent advice, because (as I mentioned in another thread), my employer was trying to make room in the office, and put their HD 32" CRT computer monitor (4:3 aspect ratio, supports 1080i resolution) on craigslist but nobody would make offers, and then we hired a new person, and they got desperate to make room in her future office before her first day on the job, so I took it off their hands for the sweet low price of $25 :cool: They also threw in a very sturdy cart for it to sit on (the monitor is quite heavy).

I wasn't sure if it could be converted to an HD TV, but with the help of some smart people here on TCF, I purchased a $58 device made by HDfury.com, which converts the HDMI output from my HDTiVo to the VGA input the CRT Monitor expects. The result is that the monitor now acts as a very nice HD TV, and the quality of the picture is mind boggling to me, because I've never had an HD TV before, so I didn't know what I was missing.

I still just have analog cable, so I also installed an antenna to pick up a quite a few local digital channels, along with something called "sub channels". Altogether around a dozen or so totally free channels, all digital, are now part of my quide data. (The antenna only cost me $11.99, one time fee only.) I'm piping the sound through a stereo, so I'm now enjoying lots of HD features that my HD TiVo has to offer, that I wasn't until recently getting.

So yes, choosing a TiVo HD to move my lifetime onto has worked out excellently. I never considered getting an HD TV to be high enough on my priority list, but for the low $ I just spent, I figured I should not pass that up.

Leon WIlkinson

08-01-2009, 04:15 AM

I guessed what year this thread was started and missed it by 2 years, :D

bzuka

08-04-2009, 02:18 AM

I've got an 80 hour series two TiVo. We've several season passes, with the option: "Keep until I delete". I've watched everything I want, and am ready to delete, but my wife is severely behind on watching the programs. The TiVo is almost full now, and often when I try to schedule a new program it says it can't schedule because it's out of memory.

(Actually, it's projecting that by the time the show airs, it'll be out of memory because of the "To Do" list, but as the season's really over now, the only stuff in my To Do list are 3 season passes my wife has set up for our 3 year old son -- educational cartoons. These are also "keep until I delete", but my wife has agreed to let me archive these to VHS as soon as they record. Therefore, by the time my desired shows will air, the TiVo really won't be out of memory, but it doesn't know that. A solution is for me to wait until just before the air date, and then schedule a recording.)

My wife is unwilling to delete anything, because she wants to watch it all. (There's quite a prodigious amount recorded right now.) She also doesn't know when she'll have time to watch stuff. She won't change "Keep until I delete" to an expiration date, because she can't guarantee when she'll watch the stuff. Our TiVo is effectively no longer an 80 hour TiVo, but a 6-7 hour TiVo, and it's still all-in-one-pieceshrinking. Soon I'll be TiVoless. [sounds of shocked awe]. She's jeopardizing my TiVo experience. Solutions?

you can always talk to her and explain everything becouse you are the all-in-one-piece and maybe you soul buy some more device to watch eveything you want personally

ZeoTiVo

08-04-2009, 03:25 PM

you can always talk to her and explain everything becouse you are the all-in-one-piece and maybe you soul buy some more device to watch eveything you want personally
this is a long thread and that has been said in at least 400 different ways.

timckelley

12-02-2009, 06:11 PM

I've noticed lately, as more and more of my SPs are coming through my antenna, and recording in HD, that it doesn't take a lot to fill up my TiVo. My wife has for quite awhile now, stayed totally off my TiVo, so the TiVo situation has been pretty peaceful for awhile now.

But even my own SPs are enough to fill up my TiVo if I go too long without watching TV. I've never actually filled it up though. Once I came to within maybe 2 shows of being full, but I watched and deleted stuff, and I usually have about 10 or so shows in Suggestions (sometimes more). Still, not much compared to when I did everything in SD.

There are a couple of shows on there I haven't deleted because my wife told me she wants to watch them. But typically, a few months go by, she never watches it, and I eventually silently delete without telling her, and she doesn't seem to notice.

Meanwhile, she still has both her TiVos mostly filled up. She's back to watching General Hospital, and has weeks worth (at least) backlog of eps in her NP. She probably has over a dozen Biography shows too. Lots and lots of other stuff, but I'm not quite sure what it all is.

It seems like last year she had cut back from archiving, but lately I've noticed an increase in her archiving habit. Sometimes she still tapes to those archaic VHS tapes, but mostly she burns to DVD, so at least that's more uptodate technnology. They also take up a lot less shelf space. I can tell that she doesn't like to put off her tasks of offloading, because it makes room on her TiVo after she deletes it.

I know I've told her that we have the ability to transfer shows to our PC, but I think she'd rather have the stuff on DVD and/or VHS.

ZeoTiVo

12-02-2009, 06:36 PM

this is one of my favorite threads but it seems like a soap opera in itself some times. ;)

Dan203

12-02-2009, 06:50 PM

You should pick up one of those DVR Expander drives. The TiVo HD units only have 160GB drives. If you were to add a 500GB DVR Expander and you would quadruple your disc space and never have to worry about running low on space again.

I added a 500GB one to my S3, which starts with 250GB, and right now I have the complete seasons of 4 different shows (9-12 episodes apiece) plus a couple dozen more recently recorded shows, all in HD, and I still have 48 recordings in the Recently Deleted folder. (I don't use Suggestions)

Dan

timckelley

12-02-2009, 07:53 PM

Sounds like a nice Xmas gift idea. :D I wonder how much those cost.

JYoung

12-02-2009, 09:28 PM

Sounds like a nice Xmas gift idea. :D I wonder how much those cost.

Since you've already replaced your TiVo drive before, I'm going to agree and disagree with Dan203 and suggest you swap out the hard drive on your TiVo HD for a larger one.

I dropped a 1TB drive in my TiVo HD this summer and I have lots of space.

See here for more info:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=370784#S5

mattack

12-02-2009, 10:19 PM

Does she ever watch the stuff she's archived to DVD?

I have *tons* of DVDs (DVD-Rs, DVD-RWs, and DVD-RAMs), and while I've been slowly transferring some stuff to an external hard drive (from finalized DVD-RWs, mostly music shows/recordings so I can hopefully get the audio off as MP3s at some point), I usually only watch something off DVDs to 'make more room on DVDs'..

comgenius1

12-02-2009, 10:25 PM

I know I've told her that we have the ability to transfer shows to our PC, but I think she'd rather have the stuff on DVD and/or VHS.

If memory serves, there is a version of Nero that allows you to burn your tivo recordings to DVD once you have them on your computer.

lrhorer

12-02-2009, 11:29 PM

It seems like last year she had cut back from archiving, but lately I've noticed an increase in her archiving habit. Sometimes she still tapes to those archaic VHS tapes, but mostly she burns to DVD, so at least that's more uptodate technnology. They also take up a lot less shelf space. I can tell that she doesn't like to put off her tasks of offloading, because it makes room on her TiVo after she deletes it.
A 1T hard drive can be had for as little as $80 plus shipping. You might really consider upgrading her drive, yours, or both.

I know I've told her that we have the ability to transfer shows to our PC, but I think she'd rather have the stuff on DVD and/or VHS.
There are a lot of other advantages to offloading to a PC. First of all, in the long run it will take far less space and cost much less. It's also much faster and easier than copying to DVD or tape. Secondly, using an application like Galleon, one can have the programs archived to the PC automatically, with no intervention on your part, as long as they have some parameter in common (like similar or identical names or being part of a series). Thirdly, if you choose, you can have an external application automatically remove commercials. Fourthly, you can if you choose create a very handy folder structure for holding the programs. For example, I think you said she records soaps. She can create a separate folder for each Soap with sub-folders arranged by month, for example. Fifthly, if you find she is still being really bad about deleting stuff, adding 4TB or so to a PC is not terribly expensive or difficult, and I defy her to overflow a 4T system with SD videos. Finally, if the videos are stored on a networked PC, then they can be watched not only on any networked TiVo in the house, but also any other networked video device, like, say, a laptop.

timckelley

12-02-2009, 11:39 PM

and I defy her to overflow a 4T system with SD videos.I've learned not to underestimate her abilities in this area. :D

BTW, if I were to somehow install this 4TB system you speak of, I guess I'd need another 4TB to back it up, in case of a hard drive crash or something.

lrhorer

12-02-2009, 11:48 PM

Since you've already replaced your TiVo drive before, I'm going to agree and disagree with Dan203 and suggest you swap out the hard drive on your TiVo HD for a larger one.
Yeah. My THD has a 750G drive, one of my S3s has a 1.5T drive, and the other S3 has a pair of 1T drives. My video server has an 8T RAID6 array.

lrhorer

12-03-2009, 12:06 AM

I've learned not to underestimate her abilities in this area. :D

BTW, if I were to somehow install this 4TB system you speak of, I guess I'd need another 4TB to back it up, in case of a hard drive crash or something.
Ah, there's the rub! Yes, if you consider the data on the system to be important, then backing it up is a must. Note your current implementation does not have backups, except those she copies to DVD.

My own personal solution to the dilemma is, just as you say, an independent backup server. Another option, however, would be offline storage. You can get an eSATA / USB hard drive docking station for under $40. Using this, you can back up data to individual hard drives you keep on the shelf. With this method, the total storage invested in the backup solution can be only slightly larger than the used space on the PC, not the total space. It also allows you to easily mix-and-match drive sizes at will, meaning you can purchase only the additional backup space you need and / or at the lowest price per bit. Right now the lowest cost per bit of which I know are 1.5 TB drives, although I think I remember seeing a holiday special on a 2T drive for around $140 somewhere. In any case, a 1T hard dive fits in less space on the shelf than a 25 pack of DVDs, yet easily holds as much info as 120 Dual Layer DVDs. Of course, Single Layer DVDs are much cheaper than Dual Layer, but they take up more than twice the space, and are only a little less expensive to purchase initially than the hard drive. Re-write the hard drive a time or two, and you've totally blown away any DVD solution for cost, as well.

daveak

12-03-2009, 08:36 PM

pilotbob

12-04-2009, 09:55 AM

For not a lot of money, you can build a multi drive raid storage tower. Then if you lose one drive, you can still access your data. I did this for easily less than $500 to start (controller, 3 ea 1 tb drives, and enclosure - went raid 5).

Or if you are not crafty you can get a Drobo... yes, they are pricey but will grow with you and as time goes by bigger drives to add/swap into it will get cheaper.

BOb

TiVoEvan74

12-04-2009, 05:31 PM

I couldn't read through this entire thread... much too long. Someone probably has already made this suggestion, but if not, here goes.

A good solution would be to add one of the Humax Tivos with DVD burning capability. You can then off-load shows onto DVDs and file them in a box with colored coded sleeves. That frees up the space and makes them accessible at a later date--for your own --or your wife's marathons!

You can get a refurbished one from weakknees.com with larger capacity drives in them, too. That way you won't have to offload as often, but can when you want or need to. BOBW = best of both worlds.

bareyb

12-04-2009, 09:51 PM

HeatherA

12-09-2009, 08:17 PM

We've worked this out in my house. 2 adults, 1 teen, 1 pre-teen very different viewing habits.

I have a 109 hour Tivo in my office/family room that I am in charge of. No one is allowed to mess with it except me. They may watch, but they may NOT delete anything. (Cable/Sat)

We have a 101 hour Tivo in the living room that the kids can set up season passes on as well as some from husband. All 3 have complete control over this and have had to figure out common courtesys to make sure they don't step on each others toes (Cable/Sat)

We have a 40 hour ReplayTV in the bedroom that we picked up for a song and use for backup and a few of husbands shows. Husband and I are the only ones that mess with this one. (Cable Only)

Works well and most everyone is happy. The only problems we run into are the kids fighting over who has the most season passes.

It's complicated but it works and we're a happy TV viewing family

:D

Was reading some of my old posts on this forum and saw this one... so weird. My kids are now HS and College age and we have 2 TiVos and 4 MCE machines going in our house each day. No conflicts any more, no arguments and more season passes than we need, some in triplicate. I can't believe this thread is still going. Haha

lrhorer

12-09-2009, 10:22 PM

For not a lot of money, you can build a multi drive raid storage tower. Then if you lose one drive, you can still access your data. I did this for easily less than $500 to start (controller, 3 ea 1 tb drives, and enclosure - went raid 5). Videos (and our library of digital photos & music) are available from anywhere in the house. We have a central location for electronic media with lots of expandable storage. You can even go cheaper and still have as much storage, though I like using raid for data I do not want to lose.
One big caveat, though. RAID is not a backup solution, and it is not fault-proof. It is fault tolerant. More importantly, it cannot in any way make up for user error. A RAID solution should prevent the loss of data in the event of one or possibly more (depending on the RAID level) hard drives. If the user is willing to take the risk, then a RAID system is a moderately robust measn of storing data. Backups are the only answer to data loss from vectors other than a failing hard drive, though. In my case, the video server hosts a RAID6 array and the backup server hosts a RAID5 array. When 3T hard drives are introduced and come down in price, I will be converting all the drives in my RAID arrays to 3T drives, and taking all the old drives and using them for offline backups. This is probably a bit excessive for arrays smaller than 4T, as copying less than 4T of data can be done fairly quickly. For arrays larger than that, however, the odds of one array suffering a failure while trying to do a full restore to the other array start to rise high enough to be of concern.

emp

12-17-2009, 08:19 AM

I never understood this mentality. Since I've been married it (all income) has been "our" money... and all purchases were "our" things.

I have heard the "our money" (what he earns) and "her money" (what she earns) and say it jokeingly at times. But, my wife and I consider ourselfs as a true partnership so I couldn't pay for "half" of something.

Sorry to be off topic... or is it?

BOb

x2.

If your both contributing to your household then its "our" money, not "my" or "your" money.

timckelley

09-19-2010, 01:17 AM

Well, here's a new update: Over a week ago, our house got flooded, but I was careful to save all 3 TiVos. My TiVo was upstairs, so has been continuing to record, but I had to unplug both my wife's TiVos. For the last week, we've been living at my mother-in-law's house, so my wife took the liberty of scheduling a few of her most important shows on my TiVo.

Today, I hooked up one of her TiVos in the same room as mine (upstairs) so that TiVo is back in business finally. But she's had no time to watch anything, so I'm sure her backlog has been getting bad. Today she made the decision to delete about 18 episodes of Biography without watching them, and more than a half dozen episodes of Chuck. She's accepting that she can't realistically believe that she's going to eventually watch everything that's been sitting in her vast Now Playing list, so this is some progress on her part, I think. (Just a dent however, because at Basic Quality, she fits a huge amount of shows in her Now Playing.)

Today, she asked me to bring her other TiVo over to her mother's house, as she has analog cable through Time Warner just like we do, so I'd think it will work here. (I'm currently typing this on my MIL's laptop.) Well, I kept looking all over the house, and I couldn't find her other TiVo. At long last I found it in one of the upstairs bedrooms... she had moved it there post-flood but forgot she'd done that. That room is jampacked with stuff that got moved into it since we had to evacuate everything from the first floor, as we're going to have to repainted and recarpeted, so it was hard to find that TiVo.

Then I realized I had no power cord, and after the longest time, I found it in the garage, because that's where I moved the TV cart/stand during the flood to save it from damage. (I had to move a bookshelf to get to it.) By the time I retrieved the items I was so dehydrated that I was getting dizzy and short of breath, because my house, being uninhabited right now, is being kept at a high temperature to save on air conditioning, and I did this right after going on a 1 hour neighborhood walk with my son. But after drinking about 40 ounces of water, I felt a lot better. I guess I'm now about to plug in and set up this TiVo I just fetched for my wife. :)

She's made comments that she thinks she records too much, and would like to give one of her two TiVos to her mother, but her mother doesn't want it though, so I think we're still going to have all 3 TiVos in the family. Personally, I'd think she's want to keep both, because they're both single tuner S2s, and only one would provide no conflict resolution ability.

cyntax01

09-19-2010, 03:43 AM

sounds like theres a physical addition here, beyond the mental addiction, akin to methamphetamines or heroin. Why not schedule a record of "Intervention" on A&E? or better yet, call the hotline and make some cash doing an episode. lol.
All kidding aside, upgrade the hard drives, its super cheap and mega easy to do.
Sorry about the floods -- being a new englander, judging by last March's "historic floods", I sympathize with your troubles at home (you're not a local, by chance?) Luckily, she'll have plenty of time to catch up on season 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of deadliest catch before season 7 starts.

Polcamilla

09-19-2010, 10:06 PM

Hey, Tim--- do you guys have some kind of Netflix on-demand capability?

It might be interesting to try to break the hoarding cycle entirely by convincing her that EVERYTHING she wants to watch is waiting for her on Netflix and she can just sit down and select what she wants when she wants it. No need to bother recording anything or to decide what's a priority to watch. She can just pick what she's in the mood for when she has time to watch something.

timckelley

09-19-2010, 10:55 PM

ZeoTiVo

09-20-2010, 10:17 AM

I know my TiVoHD has that capability (though we've never subscribed to it); but I'm sure whether S2s have that. I they do, but I'm not sure; I'll have to look at the menus. We've talked about getting netflix, but haven't decided on it. One thing is for series currently being aired, I don't know that you can get that through netflix.

Other than that, can most things be gotten through netflix, and watched on demand (streaming through internet) like that? If so, it makes me wonder why we're paying over $60 a month (with no premium channels) to Time Warner Cable.

no you can not get current stuff and likely things like biography are not even available at any time via Netflix and especially streaming.

The S2 can do amazon rental or buy - but be careful here - one show costs 1.99. Hoarding is bad enough but racking up a big bill is too dangerous to risk. Introducing your wife to that idea would be a bad thing.

As for Netflix, that you can stream on the HD models only but like I said, it will not be exactly what she watches now and introducing your wife to yet more stuff to watch may not be the best approach ;)

aardwolf

09-20-2010, 12:34 PM

Before I was married, I used to let my shows get built up like that. I would actually take VACATION DAYS from work so I could stay home and catch up on all my TV viewing.

At some point I came to the realization that I was addicted to TV. Now I limit myself to 1-2 shows per night (no more than 1.5 hours of total viewing). When new shows come out, we (I'm married with kid now) don't watch unless we eliminate an older show.

It helps that my daughter is 1.5 years old and we don't watch TV until after she goes to bed at 8.

WhiskeyTango

09-20-2010, 01:22 PM

I think I'm in the same boat as the OP's wife. I do delete shows but just record way more than I can watch. I have 3 upgraded Tivo's and all of them were running low on space. I figured that I would be able to clear up space over the summer but was still recording too much. With the fall season starting I decided to start cleaning house. I deleted 2 full seasons each of Brotherhood, Damages, and Californication. I delted SP's for a few other shows and am looking at what other shows I watch but could do without like The Apprentice. It's all Tivo's fault. Before I got my first one I watched a normal amount of TV. With each upgrade and additional Tivo, I recorded more and more stuff that I normally wouldn't have bothered with.

allan

09-20-2010, 01:45 PM

Ever since I got a Weaknees super-sized Tivo, I've piled up a lot of stuff, mainly just because I can. And I watch LESS TV than I did with a smaller Tivo, partly from lack of good stuff, but largely because I know I CAN skip without losing my recordings. Eventually, I'll fill this one up, and end up in that boat.

timckelley

09-20-2010, 01:49 PM

What I don't understand is how it doesn't bother my wife to record everything in Basic Quality. She does that to maximize how many shows she can fit on there, but it's so grainy, I'd hate Basic Quality.

I'm the other extreme.. I record everything in Best Quality, or if I can pick it up on my antenna, it gets recorded in HD quality. I also have a smaller hard drive than she, so keeping up with my space can be challenging at times, as it can fill up fast.

Since it's now been over a week since I've lived in my house (it's still being repaired), I've taken steps by deleting 2 of my SPs. They are of old shows that have reruns all the time (Bonanza and Enterprise). I can see those reruns anytime. (Amazingly I never watched Bonanza as a child, and I'm watching it now for the first time... I rather like the show.) But all the new shows I'm keeping. The new season is about to start, and my current shows are mostly HD quality, so I hope to get back to the house soon, or even I could run out of space. I probably could go at least 2 or 3 weeks before that would happen, and I don't think I'll be out that long, but on the other hand, my wife is slightly poaching on my TiVo right now. But she has nicely chosen a very low quality (probably Basic) for her shows.

WizarDru

09-20-2010, 01:51 PM

no you can not get current stuff and likely things like biography are not even available at any time via Netflix and especially streaming.

Biography is available on Netflix and quite a few episodes are available for Streaming.
http://www.netflix.com/WiSearch?oq=&lnkctr=srchrd-ips&v1=biography&btn=Search

Chuck is available through Netflix, but not the latest season. Some shows, like many of Disney's kid sitcoms and TNT's shows, have their stuff on Netflix streaming BEFORE it comes to DVD/Bluray. Netflix is far better with TV shows on streaming than movies. And if she's really taking THAT LONG to watch stuff, she's better served waiting until its on Netflix and she can watch at her leisure.

timckelley

07-09-2011, 11:22 PM

New problem developing. I decided to replace one of my wife's TiVos with a new one that supports HD, since more and more of our analog channels are disappearing as Time Warner slowly evolves to digital. Actually I got her the TiVo Premiere, and I still have a TiVo HD. (I need to sell her old TiVo, which I haven't done yet.)

I have a cable card in my TiVo HD, but my wife doesn't yet have one, because our house is for sale, and she'd rather wait until we move to get one, because that way we only have to pay the tech once, instead of twice, to get her TiVo going with a cable card.

Well, there's already shows on channels no longer available on analog that she wants, so lately she's been recording them on my TiVo. I didn't mind because I had a lot of space, but I'm starting to run out of space now. So I got the bright idea to move them using HMO to her TiVo. I figure she may not have a cable card, but you'd think I should be able to transfer a show I recorded with my cable card down to her TiVo.

But on every single one of her shows, I'm getting the message "Transferring prohibited by the copyright holder", whatever that is. I see a really long thread about it on the TiVoHD forum, and I skimmed through it, but I still don't really understand it, except that TiVo is passing the blame, while others blame TiVo, so I don't know whose fault it is. I just think it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that I should be able to move her shows to her TiVo, but apparently I can't do that. :( So my problems remain. :(

I wonder, by chance, if I were to get her a cable card if this message would magically go away? Maybe not.

timckelley

07-09-2011, 11:25 PM

Well, if nothing else, if I got her a cable card, she could record her future showings on her own TiVo, so long term I guess that's a solution.

bareyb

07-09-2011, 11:28 PM

Well, if nothing else, if I got her a cable card, she could record her future showings on her own TiVo, so long term I guess that's a solution.

I looked but didn't see the thread you were referencing but it sounds like the copyright protection is probably coming down from the Cable Provider. Not much TiVo can do about that.

Getting her a cable card and her own TiVo will probably end this thread once and for all. ;)

DevdogAZ

07-10-2011, 02:11 AM

The restriction on transferring has nothing to do with whether yours or hers has a cablecard. It's just a fact of life with digital broadcasts. Some providers turn on the flag that only allows the show to be copied once, and that once was when you recorded it.

And I can't believe thus thread is still going.

bareyb

07-10-2011, 03:24 AM

Once he gets her a cablecard this thread will finally retire. She'll have her own TiVo and can keep all the recordings she wants. ;)

ZeoTiVo

07-11-2011, 10:24 AM

Once he gets her a cablecard this thread will finally retire. She'll have her own TiVo and can keep all the recordings she wants. ;)

come on guys - give him some real info.

1. come August 1st the FCC will require TWC to allow for self install of cable cards - thus ending the truck roll fee.

2. Unless he bought a premiere XL - once she starts recording the shows in HD - that hard drive is going to fill up 3 times as fast as before when recording analog SD shows.

DevdogAZ gave you the info on how it is the recording via digital channels that is adding that copy restricted flag. That will persist. However streaming between 2 premiere DVRs is being worked on and has been seen in the wild and reported on in this forum.

timckelley

07-11-2011, 10:51 AM

come August 1st the FCC will require TWC to allow for self install of cable cards - thus ending the truck roll fee.

Wow; that's great news; the first I've heard of this. No need for me to wait for me to move to my next house then. Hopefully Time Warner acknowledges this new requirement when I call them. I know the last time I talked to them about it, which was a couple of months ago, they didn't mention anything about it, and said I'll have to pay to get the installation done.

It does seem odd that I can't transfer the shows, since I think the impression many have when we buy TiVos is that we'll be able to do this.

Unless he bought a premiere XL - once she starts recording the shows in HD - that hard drive is going to fill up 3 times as fast as before when recording analog SD shows. That's a good point. We haven't sold her old TiVo yet, and for now she's still using it, so the space problem isn't here yet, but I assume if I need to expand her space I can. I know on my TiVo HD, there's a way to expand space without even opening the box; supposedly you can plug more space straight into it. Maybe the same might be true on the TiVo Premier.

lrhorer

07-11-2011, 05:28 PM

But on every single one of her shows, I'm getting the message "Transferring prohibited by the copyright holder", whatever that is.
All digital transport streams have a byte embeded in them known as the CCI byte. The value of this byte determines whether or not compliant devices are allowed to transfer videos that have this byte set to something other than 0.

There is no law requiring any device to be compliant, but in order to obtain CableLabs certification for a device, it must be compliant. The CATV company is not required to allow any user to attach a non-compliant digital receiver to their plant.

Meanwhile, the FCC mandates that all locally broadcast TV stations, when placed on the CATV lineup, must have their CCI byte set to 0. At the CATV company's discretion, they may set the CCI byte of any other regularly scheduled programming to 0x01, if they choose. Pay-per-view and VOD channels can have their CCI bytes set to 0x02 or above.

Some CATV companies, like Time Warner Cable, set all non-OTA channels to 0x02 or above.

I wonder, by chance, if I were to get her a cable card if this message would magically go away? Maybe not.
No. TWC chooses not to allow anyone to transfer content from their line-up.

lrhorer

07-11-2011, 05:31 PM

It does seem odd that I can't transfer the shows, since I think the impression many have when we buy TiVos is that we'll be able to do this.
This cannot be done with any un-hacked DVR.

That's a good point. We haven't sold her old TiVo yet, and for now she's still using it, so the space problem isn't here yet, but I assume if I need to expand her space I can. I know on my TiVo HD, there's a way to expand space without even opening the box; supposedly you can plug more space straight into it. Maybe the same might be true on the TiVo Premier.
It is, but the recommended method is to upgrade the internal drive, instead.

tomhorsley

07-11-2011, 05:48 PM

I actually use this as a guide to tell myself what shows I want to watch. When it starts to seem like work to catch up on a TV program, I ask myself "Why am I watching it at all then?"

timckelley

07-11-2011, 05:50 PM

It is, but the recommended method is to upgrade the internal drive, instead.If that's true, I'm willing to go that route, as I've done this for S2's and an S1. Hopefully it's not harder to do on a Premier.

ZeoTiVo

07-12-2011, 10:32 AM

If that's true, I'm willing to go that route, as I've done this for S2's and an S1. Hopefully it's not harder to do on a Premier.

just different, not harder.

dlfl

07-12-2011, 10:55 AM

What I don't understand is how it doesn't bother my wife to record everything in Basic Quality. She does that to maximize how many shows she can fit on there, but it's so grainy, I'd hate Basic Quality............. but on the other hand, my wife is slightly poaching on my TiVo right now. But she has nicely chosen a very low quality (probably Basic) for her shows.
Still with the wife problems after 8 years? :confused:

Maybe the solution isn't technical -- have you considered Dr. Phil ? :p

DevdogAZ

07-12-2011, 01:17 PM

Still with the wife problems after 8 years? :confused:

Maybe the solution isn't technical -- have you considered Dr. Phil ? :p
If she starts recording Dr. Phil, her hard drive will fill up even faster.

;)

bikegeek

07-12-2011, 02:56 PM

Am I the only one that reads this thread and thinks that if wife won't delete recordings then delete wife? :)

steve614

07-12-2011, 04:19 PM

Now that the wife has her own Tivo...If she is still not deleting shows, then plan on upgrading the HD or adding an external.

When you get to the point that you have to do this (and we all know you will ;)), I also recommend the internal upgrade to 2TB. Adding an external drive also adds another failure point.
If you have a computer with SATA ports and an optical drive, upgrading the Premiere is not that challenging if you've done upgrades yourself before.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=455968

lrhorer

07-12-2011, 04:31 PM

just different, not harder.
Right, and not really very difficult, in any case. Anyone comfortable with opening the case on a PC should have few problems if they follow the instructions.

lrhorer

07-12-2011, 04:32 PM

Am I the only one that reads this thread and thinks that if wife won't delete recordings then delete wife? :)
I don't think her not deleting shows is grounds for expulsion. OTOHJ, if she deletes shows when she shouldn't, then it's mandatory. :D

timckelley

07-12-2011, 05:34 PM

If you have a computer with SATA ports and an optical drive, upgrading the Premiere is not that challenging if you've done upgrades yourself before.

One of my computers has IDE ports, and the other has SATA ports, so that sounds good. If by optical drive, you mean a DVD/CD drive, then yes I have that too. (I'm not too familiar with computer lingo.)

In my past upgrades, it's usually been to replace a failed hard drive, so I was able to get a free image off a fellow TCFer, but in this case, the drive hasn't failed, so maybe I can make my own image, assuming the process for Premiers is analagous to the process for S2s.

Stuxnet

07-12-2011, 10:07 PM

In my past upgrades, it's usually been to replace a failed hard drive....If you can do that, upgrading a Premiere w/jmfs is cake. If you're even a little unsure watch the two-part video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS_KZsJ4vaQ) that completely steps you through the process... from opening the case to booting up the new drive installation.

timckelley

07-21-2011, 02:14 PM

1. come August 1st the FCC will require TWC to allow for self install of cable cards - thus ending the truck roll fee.

A few days ago I was in my local TWC addressing my Internet problems, and brought this up. The lady said she's not aware of this change and they have no plans go stop requiring truck rolls. I told her I didn't think they have a choice in the matter when the FCC makes rulings like this. She agreed and said she figures her department will get notified at some point.

Well it was only 2 weeks from 8-1 when she said this; you'd think they'd've been notified by then. I'll probably be calling soon to ask for a nontruckrolled cable card.

timckelley

01-29-2012, 05:18 PM

New updates. I sold my house and moved to a smaller one in late August, 2011. I thought it would be a good time to sell one of our TiVos, but my wife kept hinting she wasn't ready to sell it. Her mother got pretty mystified why we need that many TiVos, and it seemed like she was pressuring her to let me sell it. In the end, she put her foot down and said we're keeping all 4 TiVos. :eek: :o

So in the new house, we've got one in the master bedroom, the family room, the kitchen, and there's a room we call the "blue room" (because the walls are blue). It's really sort of my wife's media room, as that's where her huge collection of tapes and DVDs is.

Well apparently despite this bountiful amount of TiVos, her TiVo Premier is running out of space. :eek: She recently asked me to upgrade it to give her more space. Some of you in this thread recently predicted this would happen. :D

After researching, it did seem like (in agreement with what some of you said) that the best solution is the replace the internal drive with a 2 TB drive. I just did that last night in fact.

This morning I told my wife that she now has space to hold 291 hours of HD programming, or 2552 hours of SD programming. I further told her, that if I were she, I'd record everything in HD she can because it looks so much better. Oh by the way, her TiVo Premier is now hooked up the HD TV I had been using with my TiVo HD, and I bought a new 32 " HD TV for my TiVo.

My wife told me she might compromise and record *some* stuff in HD quality, but to be honest, she can't rule out that she'd eventually run out of space if put all in HD (which would limit her to 291 hours), so she intends to continue recording some stuff in lower quality. :eek: :eek:

BTW, she's pretty much stayed off my TiVo since we've been in this new house. As well it seems she should, since the allocation is basically

Me: 1 TiVo (dual tuner HD TiVo)
Son: 1/2 TiVo (dual tuner TiVo Premier)
Wife: 2 1/2 TiVos. (2 single tuner S2's, + 1/2 of the upgraded TiVo Premier... well, a lot more than half, since my son will only use a small fraction of the new massive amount of space I put on it)

bareyb

01-29-2012, 05:20 PM

So... Nothing has changed... :p

timckelley

01-29-2012, 05:21 PM

BTW, I used to think people who had 4 TiVos must have gone nuts and/or whacked out in the mind, and here we are among those wierdos. Well, maybe my original opinion is still correct. :o

bareyb

01-29-2012, 05:22 PM

BTW, I used to think people who had 4 TiVos must have gone nuts and/or whacked out in the mind, and here we are among those wierdos. Well, maybe my original opinion is still correct. :o

We have three. Well two TiVos and Comcrap box for PPV's. One of these days I'm gonna upgrade both of them to "Elites" with four tuners and hopefully then my kids can have their TiVo and my wife and I can have the other one. Right now my stuff is spread across all three due to conflicts...

timckelley

01-29-2012, 05:23 PM

So... Nothing has changed... :p

Well, as I noted earlier in the thread, a small amount has. When my wife's TiVo fills up, she will indeed delete recordings, because she's forced into it. She knows if she doesn't, the TiVo will stop recording, which would really bug her.

So she will actually delete recordings, if forced into it. :D

bareyb

01-29-2012, 05:26 PM

Well, as I noted earlier in the thread, a small amount has. When my wife's TiVo fills up, she will indeed delete recordings, because she's forced into it. She knows if she doesn't, the TiVo will stop recording, which would really bug her.

So she will actually delete recordings, if forced into it. :D

Well technically, the TiVo would simply delete the oldest first...

ETA: Oh wait... Never mind. She saves everything "keep until I delete". Forgot that bit. :D

terpfan1980

01-29-2012, 05:42 PM

@TimCKelley - how many of your boxes are now Premieres?

With the new software updates to the Premiere you can now "multi room stream" so you could watch content from any one TiVo on the others in the house (that are all Premieres, all with the same updated software) so you wouldn't need to be as concerned about which TiVo where is storing which content.

That said, I'd still advise following the "wife gets her own" rule for as long as she (like my daughter it seems) continues to employ the "keep until I delete" setting.

As to how many Tivo's are too many and such... I've got my own Premiere XL with the stock drive in it, a Premiere with stock drive in it for my master bedroom, shared with my Mrs., a Premiere with stock drive in it in our living room (for everyone to share), a Premiere with stock drive in it for my step-daughter's bedroom, and a Premiere with a 2TB drive in it that will go into my daughter's room eventually but is currently offline while she cleans and makes room in there for it to be setup. (No cable drop there currently, so no way to get the FiOS channels on it yet).

I've also got an HTPC that uses a Ceton card with 4 tuners available to it (that is a bit finnicky, but works well enough that I watch much of the live TV that I would catch on it).

Before we had the option to do the multi-room streaming, I had that many boxes just to make sure we each had a TiVo available to us where we'd want it at. Now that we could stream from any box to any of the others, it's less frustrating and time consuming waiting for content to be copied from one box to the other through the home network.

Once I invested in the boxes though, and had lifetime on them, I pretty much quit worrying about how many I had, as long as no one else was monopolizing space on the boxes that I wanted to have recording my favorite shows, all is good :up:

donnoh

01-29-2012, 05:44 PM

Well, as I noted earlier in the thread, a small amount has. When my wife's TiVo fills up, she will indeed delete recordings, because she's forced into it. She knows if she doesn't, the TiVo will stop recording, which would really bug her.

So she will actually delete recordings, if forced into it. :D

You need to get her to clean the house and cook, then she wouldn't have time to watch Tivo!

dginok

01-29-2012, 06:50 PM

Time to call "Hoarders".........her compulsion to keep all recorded shows forever is the digital equivalent of burying herself in her own house with stuff.;)

bkc56

01-30-2012, 03:13 PM

Interesting to see this thread is still humming along (I posted back in 6/03). My situation is still unchanged: 2 upgraded Tivos, 1 for my wife's stuff, and the other for my stuff and some we both watch. Her's is chronically full, sometimes requiring priority work as it's going to be totally full in a couple days (stop recording). I don't monitor it, so it could actually get full sometimes and I may not notice. Mine is more manageable, but it does still have some old stuff. For example, we still have last year's Superbowl because my wife hasn't gone through it to watch the ads yet.

Still, the system works. I don't stress about it because I'm not going to miss anything due to no disk space.

Getting a second Tivo (the Tivo itself was free, but lifetime cost) was some of the best money I've spent.

bobster954

01-30-2012, 03:57 PM

I've got an 80 hour series two TiVo. We've several season passes, with the option: "Keep until I delete". I've watched everything I want, and am ready to delete, but my wife is severely behind on watching the programs. The TiVo is almost full now, and often when I try to schedule a new program it says it can't schedule because it's out of memory.

(Actually, it's projecting that by the time the show airs, it'll be out of memory because of the "To Do" list, but as the season's really over now, the only stuff in my To Do list are 3 season passes my wife has set up for our 3 year old son -- educational cartoons. These are also "keep until I delete", but my wife has agreed to let me archive these to VHS as soon as they record. Therefore, by the time my desired shows will air, the TiVo really won't be out of memory, but it doesn't know that. A solution is for me to wait until just before the air date, and then schedule a recording.)

My wife is unwilling to delete anything, because she wants to watch it all. (There's quite a prodigious amount recorded right now.) She also doesn't know when she'll have time to watch stuff. She won't change "Keep until I delete" to an expiration date, because she can't guarantee when she'll watch the stuff. Our TiVo is effectively no longer an 80 hour TiVo, but a 6-7 hour TiVo, and it's still shrinking. Soon I'll be TiVoless. [sounds of shocked awe]. She's jeopardizing my TiVo experience. Solutions?

netflix, season shows...amazon prime tv shows, dvd rentals or buy of entire season, comcast video on demand.
Lastly, if not copyrighted, use a program to pull them to the computer.
Finally, get a second tivo, one for her recordings (that will no longer record as it is out of space) and one for you to watch things.

last thing I can think of is...'yes dear' and go mow the lawn.

shwru980r

01-30-2012, 04:04 PM

Upgrade to a larger hard drive.

JYoung

01-30-2012, 05:07 PM

Does anyone else cringe every time this thread is bumped?

;)

DevdogAZ

01-30-2012, 05:28 PM

Does anyone else cringe every time this thread is bumped?

;)
I cringe when people reply to the initial problem expressed in the OP without reading the thread to find out what steps have already been taken.

Oh, and I cringe when the thread pops up, too. ;) I keep expecting it to be a bump by tim telling us when his wife's episode of Hoarders will air.

JustAllie

01-30-2012, 09:57 PM

I cringe when people reply to the initial problem expressed in the OP without reading the thread to find out what steps have already been taken.
:confused:

I am still not clear how the situation is substantially different than in the OP. it's just a matter of details and a few technology updates. The OP's wife still hasn't let go of her attachment to recording and saving shows that she will never have time to watch. I won't even attempt to dissect the OP's relationship with his wife and their control over disc space and technology purchases.

Hang on while I cancel my cable contract and unplug my TiVo. I have stuff on this TiVo dated January 2011 that I still haven't watched.

mattack

01-30-2012, 10:30 PM

I have stuff on this TiVo dated January 2011 that I still haven't watched.

That's all? Heck, I had older stuff than that lost when Tivo drive(s) went bad.. (One S3 drive, as well as the S3 it was in.. don't power on.. The drive went kaput too -- isn't recognized when hooked to a computer, but seems to spin up -- hope to someday try to buy an identical controller card.. and then revive the S3 maybe with a PS... and separate TivoHD drive went into reboot forever loop.)

But going back to the ORIG drive, I finally was getting some old Last Call with Carson Daly episodes from 2007/2008 off (keep musical performances.. semi-hoarding, I intend to some eon make MP3s or AACs out of them to listen to on my iPod/iPhone).

But when the S3/drive was functional, I had things from SEVERAL YEARS before that, and WOULD sometimes eventually get addicted to an old show and catch up. (But alas, I lost at least a full season of Cold Case.. Yes it's in reruns, but (1) those are hacked up, including (2) music changes.)

aaronwt

01-31-2012, 08:47 AM

Well, as I noted earlier in the thread, a small amount has. When my wife's TiVo fills up, she will indeed delete recordings, because she's forced into it. She knows if she doesn't, the TiVo will stop recording, which would really bug her.

So she will actually delete recordings, if forced into it. :D

Why not set up a PC with TiVo Desktop. Then you can transfer the recordings and have unlimited storage potential.

terpfan1980

01-31-2012, 09:35 AM

I do have to wonder what TimCKelley's wife is going to do when/if that overly full TiVo dies or, more specifically, if the drive in it dies and she loses all of that hoarded up programming.

I know there's still content that can't be legally obtained on DVD and/or Blu-ray, or found for legal streaming/download over the internet, but so much content is available that way, and so many channels exist on most cable systems that it seems silly to me to go too crazy on setting up keep until I delete recordings.

I know I'm a fine one to talk with so many TiVos in my home and so much capacity shared among them (not to mention my own HTPC), but I really don't fret over missing shows. Eventually they'll be available or I just won't bother watching them. If I que up too many shows, I figure it's a message to me that I just don't need to watch whatever it was.

Heck, I even bought a couple of larger drives that I intended to put into the TiVo boxes and never bothered upgrading because I didn't want to take the time to do it and didn't feel that pinched for space over the long haul.

terpfan1980

01-31-2012, 09:41 AM

Why not set up a PC with TiVo Desktop. Then you can transfer the recordings and have unlimited storage potential.

That's a feature that I have taken advantage of a few times. I try not to do that too often, but when I see something go by that I'd really like to save, I admit that I will pull a copy back to the PC and the convert it to iTunes so I can take it with me on my iPad or iPhone later if desired. :up:

timckelley

01-31-2012, 10:42 AM

Why not set up a PC with TiVo Desktop. Then you can transfer the recordings and have unlimited storage potential.

I think a lot of the stuff she records is copyright protected (not premium channels though, we don't have any premium channels), so she can't move it off the TiVo.

BTW, I'm not sure that she puts everything at KUID anymore like she did years ago. She still might be making prodigious use of it, but maybe she still might have some stuff with expiries. (But I'm not sure.)

Still, even then, when the TiVo fills up, she would still delete stuff, because then the TiVo will choose what to delete among the expiry stuff, and I think she wants to make that decision instead of the box making it.

duerrs

01-31-2012, 01:11 PM

how about transfer all her shows to a pc and have her transfer them back to the tivo when she is ready to watch.

duerrs

01-31-2012, 01:13 PM

whoops, was on page 2 when i typed that.....sorry

timckelley

01-31-2012, 01:35 PM

BTW, I'm not sure if this transfer to PC thing was even an option when I started this thread. I think HMO came out later.

DevdogAZ

02-01-2012, 03:04 AM

:confused:

I am still not clear how the situation is substantially different than in the OP. it's just a matter of details and a few technology updates. The OP's wife still hasn't let go of her attachment to recording and saving shows that she will never have time to watch. I won't even attempt to dissect the OP's relationship with his wife and their control over disc space and technology purchases.

Hang on while I cancel my cable contract and unplug my TiVo. I have stuff on this TiVo dated January 2011 that I still haven't watched.
Two posts above mine, someone recommended he upgrade to a larger hard drive. This is just a dozen or so posts after tim has explained that he just put a 2 TB hard drive in his wife's TiVo and their family now has 4 TiVos. That poster clearly hadn't read very far into the thread before offering a suggestion. That's all I was getting at.