Stay tuned! This is a work in progress. I will not assign a real version number until the bulk of stuff already known has been plopped in place and some reasonable formatting has been achieved.
This is meant to be a changelog/buglist from 20.2 to 188.8.131.52(and prior carry-over issues) for the TiVo Premiere (Series 4). I will try to keep this #1 posting updated with all the issues as they are listed. The previous
changelog threads are as follows:
14.9 is here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=480226
20.2 is here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=481338
This release contains a few new features and fixes several bugs. The primary change from 20.2 to 20.2.1 was to add new versions of the Netflix and Youtube applications. The rollout started on 05/10/2012. Margret from TiVo provided a "release notes" posting, which can be found at the following thread: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=487165
This changelog will incorporate the data from the release notes, user reports, and previous changelogs (for issues not resolved).
1 Non-UI or Both UI
1.1 Both/Non-UI Postive
1.2 Both/Non-UI Negative
2.1 SDUI Positive
2.2 SDUI Negative
3.1 HDUI Positive
3.2 HDUI Negative
5 Awaiting Reports
This section holds all the carryover items from the previous version and most of the negatives from the previous version that are awaiting confirmation that the problems have been resolved or that they still exist. Please note that the section will not be renumbered as things are removed.
5.1 The Select-Play-Select-9-Play code for displaying the on-screen clock
and play-time-remaining during replays is gone and there is no replacement. Play-time-remaining is available by pressing Play or Pause but the clock is available only by returning to the main menu. It also display seconds, which some people find distracting and unnecessary, and it displays the clock in the center of the screen on HDUI (but lower right corner in SDUI). One person reported having the clock display on HDUI will cause performance and screen drawing issues.
5.2 The "This group is empty" bug
that the previous changelog reported as "fixed" in the SDUI, is actually occurring in the HDUI now. It could be it is back in the SDUI, also. This bug will cause the display the above message if one deletes programs in the suggestion list too rapidly, then kick the user back one level in the menu. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=470339
5.3 Closed captions
no longer appear on the screen while using 1xFF+ (first fast play) while in the SDUI or HDUI. Margret later explained it was due to technical reasons and implied this feature will not return.
5.4 With repeating manual recordings
setup, it is possible that multiple duplicate entries will appear in the recording history as "will not record" with reason of not being in program guide. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=481547
5.5 There are some metadata issues
with programs transferred via network to the TiVo. Further, there are some reports of extended metadata missing from programs pulled back from the Premiere, even in a .TiVo format file.
5.6 HME (Home Media Engine SDK
) programs might have incorrect text display Also, at least one report of an HME actually crashing the Premiere. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb....php?p=8908963
5.7 There are reports that the network transfer speed
is not as fast as it was in 14.9, although it is still faster than it was before 14.9. (It is perhaps 12% slower) http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...74#post8909374
5.8 Recordings on the Premiere, transferred to a computer, then transferred back and played on the Premiere no longer display closed captions
. The captions do exist in the .TiVo files and can be seen on a computer. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...77#post8958577
5.9 Occasionally, when trying to delete a program
from Now Playing using the clear key, it will refuse to delete and offer a "bong" sound, instead. If one goes into the program details, it can be deleted. Or if one leaves Now Playing and returns, it can be deleted.
5.10 From "my shows", select a program to view description, then back out of it, then play another show using the play button. When using the left arrow to back out of the playback, the cursor/select is not returned
to the program that was just played. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...17#post8911517
5.11 HDUI Guide
related: 5.11.1 When the guide is visible, pressing the "guide" or "clear" button
to dismiss the guide results in the display of the medium-sized info banner, instead. This is unexpected behavior.
5.11.2 When scheduling a recording from the HD Program Guide, the guide switches to "SD" mode to display "Please Wait"
and then back to HD for the confirmation dialog.
5.11.3 Guide has no way to turn off or stop the live preview in guide
. This is consistent with the old guide behavior, but it does not match the rest of the HDUI, which honors a user preference or allows the user to press "|>" to temporarily stop it.
5.11.4 When performing certain actions on programs from the guide, like scheduling or cancelling a recording or changing recording options, the live preview window
might jump to full screen for a few seconds, then go back to the preview window size again.
5.11.5 After selecting a show to record from the guide, the guide is reloaded
and the cursor is placed back at the beginning of the list instead of being restored where it was.http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb....php?p=8895588
5.11.6 It is no longer possible to select an entry that is scheduled for recording and press clear to cancel the recording
as was possible in the previous version of the guide, if other showings will be recorded. In such cases, it is only possible to cancel through the todo list. CLARIFICATION NEEDED
5.11.7 It is no longer possible to turn on any type of filter
based on content type while in the new guide.
5.11.8 Programs marked as "new"
show their first aired date as 1 day before the actual date the program is airing. Also, the "new" labels will sometimes disappear when switching to/from grid style to/from live style. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb....php?p=8897804
5.11.9 After selecting a program to record
from the grid guide or mini guide, while watching a recording, when it redraws the guide, it places the cursor on the lowest channel instead of on the channel you just were, or on the channel the foreground tuner is using. Curiously, it doesn't do that when in the live guide. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...09#post8902409
5.12 It is no longer possible to use the right arrow to cycle through the different versions of the channel/program info display
5.13 You can no longer thumbs up or down
on items in the discovery bar.
5.14 HDUI On-Screen-Banner
Related: 5.14.1 The select button brings up the mini guide now which disrupts entering SPS codes
. However, you can still enter SPS code while playing a Showcase video or while the Info banner is up; or by temporarily switching to SDUI.
5.14.2 When entering channel numbers
in "live" TV viewing, on the info banner or mini guide, they stop at 4 digits and do not wrap around as they used to do. So there is no way to correct a typo, you have to wait for the incorrect channel or exit the info banner/mini guide.
5.14.3 The first aired date
for the program displayed on the banner is 1 day before the actual aired date. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...03#post8951103
5.15 Some people report that their play/pause location is lost
when switching back and forth between watching two recording programs. It is unclear if this is only HDUI. MORE INFO NEEDED http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...88#post8895588
5.16 Deleting a Program
Related:5.16.1 There are times when deleting a program from suggestions, using the clear button, then moving the cursor down a few menu entries, will result in two or more screen redrawings. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb....php?p=8901062
5.16.2 There are times when it is seemingly impossible to delete
a program. Such programs will not delete on the TiVo Suggestions screen (the "x" will sit there forever or it just makes the "x" disappear without deleting), nor if selected then deleted. When played back, there is an error displayed about the channel and forces an exit. Sometimes it can be deleted at that point. If played a SECOND time, it will play normally, the user can exit and then delete it. This often happens when trying to stop two recordings and it frequently causes the first to become undeletable/unplayable.
5.16.3 There are occasions when trying to delete a program, the popup menu will have no option highlighted
and any key press results in a very low-tone "bong". Usually after a minute, the entire HDUI will restart
, complete with the TiVo intro animation. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...55#post9025455 http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...19#post9026619
5.17 When transferring network video to the Premiere (from, for example, PyTiVo), some users have noticed the HDUI menu screen can "quiver"
or "shake" vertically, rapidly, by a pixel or two. It can also cause light stuttering in HD video playback during the transfer. Confirmed, but not known if this started in 20.2 http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb....php?p=8974053
5.18 When performing a one-time record of a show from the Guide
and try to add time to it, if the show is not the next airing, you have to scroll through "upcoming" to find the episode you want to record. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb....php?p=8909900
5.19 When deleting a recording that is the lowest menu entry
in a folder,the cursor will be placed at the highest menu entry, when it should have moved up by only one entry. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...58#post8953358
is still not available while using the HDUI. However, there is mention that the Spring 2012 update will have some parental controls in the HDUI.
5.21 Performance improvements in the HDUI
still do not lead to a completely fluid user interface, mostly due to the delayed, live, internet-based loading of certain information, such as the discovery bar, and program graphics. Some screens take up to 6 seconds to finish drawing/updating everything. Many users report that initial drawing of "My Shows" now takes longer than in the 14.9 update. User expectations and reporting of performance are widely varied.
5.22 The reporting of the program size disk space
is still wrong on the SDUI. They changed it to read "GB" but the reported numbers are 100 times smaller than the actual space it is using. However, in the HDUI, it is correct. First discovered in 14.9. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=480288
5.23 The Premiere is still upconverting to 720P
, even if 480P is selected in video settings. First reported in 14.9. Some suspect it might have to do with needing to display HD overlays and popups when viewing SD material. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=479153
5.24 There are still times when "Stop and Delete
" in the HDUI will stop the program recording but will not delete the program. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...99#post8892799
5.25 The KidZone SDUI dialog bug
for the "Please Wait" dialog when selecting KidZone is still present. The dialog displays almost completely off the screen. This bug was introduced in 14.9.
5.26 When scrolling through wishlists
, it can be very slow when using the channel down button, and presents a "Please Wait" dialog each time. Issue first occurred in 14.9. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...67#post8871667
5.27 Some users experience pixelation (macroblocking) when trying to watch Amazon VOD
programming. This bug was introduced as early as early 2011, and might be addressed in the planned Spring 2012 update http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...elation&page=3
5.28 When selecting and recording a season pass from the guide
, the Premiere will select the channel of the first airing of that program, rather than the channel on the selected program. Do not know when this started or if this has been that way forever. HDUI ONLY?
5.29 Although fixed for a lot of people in 14.8 the "Slide Remote Glitching
" problem seems to have returned for many people in 20.2. Sometimes when fast forwarding through video and then pressing "play" to resume playback, the command is ignored. The blue light on the remote will indicate it is sent but the amber light on the Premiere will not blink. This can happen for several presses. Sometimes the TiVo will then "catch up" and flicker several times in rapid succession. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb....php?p=9081739
5.30 Over-the-air digital broadcasts that contain audio-only programming
(with no video) will not tune on the Premiere.