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What is the difference between Tivo and Windows Media Center?

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:10
It's been a couple years since we've had one of these threads and the tech seems to have advanced a little bit.

I can't find much detailed information about Windows Media Center but here's what I've gathered:

1) You can buy a 6-tuner Cable Card / Tuning Adapter adapter for PCs now. Meanwhile Tivo Roamio also now supports 6 tuners.

2) Windows Media Center doesn't seem to charge for TV guide data-- is this true? It seems to get a 14-day feed just like Tivo.

3) Does Windows Media Center support Tivo-like Season Passes?

4) Roamio has new features for streaming Internet sources which probably has caught up to WMC and it's various plug-ins.

So-- in your opinion, what is the advantage of Tivo over WMC these days?

TiVo Mini setup - Cannot update software

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Sat, 12/28/2013 - 09:58

My first post, so please be gentle.

I purchased a TiVo Mini from Amazon for use with my TiVo Roamio Basic using Ethernet.

I am unable to get past the guided setup on the mini. It tries to update the software, but then just returns to guided setup. I do not believe the software update succeeds, because the software version shown using the Info button does not change and is not the latest version. No network error when going through guided setup.

Talked with TiVo support, and they said I should just return the mini. (I already paid lifetime when activating it!) My TiVo account shows the mini is activated. The Roamio works fine.

Anyone seen this before or have an idea how to resolve? I would rather not have to return it.


Suddenly getting "Could not get account status" on S3.

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Sat, 12/28/2013 - 07:23
I didn't change anything on my system since it was last working. However, our network is always a little wonky so once in awhile it loses the DHCP server (or whatever that is) and I did have that error first...but a reset of the router and modem usually fixes it...which it did in this instance, too--except now I'm getting the "Could not get account status" error instead.

I've NEVER seen this error on this unit (an S3) before so I'm at a loss. I checked my System Info and it still says Lifetime so nothing on the box info went stupid. My other Lifetimed Tivos on the same network (connected via Moca) are working fine. The problematic S3 is using a Tivo adapter. The only other data point is this unit is on a timer for the tuning adapter issue, but I have been manually attempting connections during off times.

I'm pretty clueless about this stuff since my husband usually deals with it...but he's deployed. I know enough to reboot/reset and whatnot, but anything more than the basics are beyond me (like I pinged ping tivo.com from my laptop and it worked fine--0% loss) unless you can walk me through it like a 5yo (like messing with the Airport Extreme).

I was going to call Tivo, but from googling, it appears they just tell you to reboot stuff - and I've done that multiple times.


One more service withdrawn for AU/NZ

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Sat, 12/28/2013 - 06:05

hello - I was just surfing, & found this article in the TIVO FAQS.

It is regarding the Home Networking Package & TiVo Desktop Plus Key, & suggests that this / these facilities are being removed from TIVO in NZ & australia. (no neww customers can purchase or obtain this facility).

Quote: This item is only available for purchase until 31 December 2013, and activations for this product will close on 31 March 2013. I'm guessing the activation part ends in MARCH 2014 (not 2013 as stated)

Tivo Premiere XL4 DVD Recorder with PRODUCT LIFETIME SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 21:03
I also have an extended warranty purchased for this device that lasts until April 2nd, 2016


Will I lose all My Book AV Expander Tivo HD Shows moving to Romio

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 20:51
I have a Tivo HD and I'm considering upgrading to a basic Roamio (I have an HD antenna so I don't have another option). However, although I believe that my 1TB My Book AV DVR Expander is apparently supported does anyone know (or have experience) whether I'll lose all my recordings when I make the switch?

"The Americans" S2 premiere date set...

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 16:25
Feb. 26 marks the start of S2 on FX...

And, according to that article, the two lead stars are apparently now involved with each other...

Roamio, TWC and the Adapter - not playing nice

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 15:39
I cannot be the ONLY person on planet Earth...but here goes.

Upgraded to Roamio. Attached adapter (Motorola - firmware updated yadayada) and I get the SDV channels. Then...I leave a SDV channel on a tuner (either taping while I am out or just leave it on before bed) and I wake up and "Tuning Adapter Missing) and the adapter is blinking. Third adapter btw. So basically the adapter keeps failing and the tivo sees the adapter is missing so it stops everything and no longer records - it just stays on the missing screen until I tune back into the SDV channel and the adapter re-sets. I can be watching an SDV channel and the same thing happens - the missing adapter error pops up and I lose all SDV signals (and the adapter is blinking).

I realize that the SDV channel times out -- but that shouldn't crash the adapter. I just wish an angel would hear my cry for help. Because TWC does NOT understand my problem and TIVO suggested I give up.

TWC blames Tivo. Tivo blames TWC. I have loved Tivo my whole life but the end is near. Please tell me I am NOT alone. It would make the pain easier.

Alert: Saturday Night Live in the '80s: Lost and Found, 12/28

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 15:03
This is a retrospective of SNL in the '80's. I saw it last time it was on and it was very interesting. If you remember, the '80's were a big transition time for SNL. The old cast was replaced and the show was at risk of cancellation. Eventually, it found its footing and went on to be a success once again. If you're a fan of the show, don't miss this.

12/28, VH1, Listing for: Saturday Night Live in the '80s: Lost and Found

Series 3 audio dropouts

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 15:02
Hi all,

I'm a new customer of TWC using dual cable cards on my Series 3 HD.

I've been troubled by audio dropouts from day one. I've read a number of threads that blame this on the Series 3's inability to handle a hot signal. Many of my channels read 100/36 db, and they definitely show huge numbers of uncorrected RS errors when this is the case.

Using the wisdom of the masses, I tried to fix this problem by dropping in some attenuation. This really did help quite a bit. My audio dropouts have nearly disappeared, but in order to make that problem go away, I sometimes drive the signal down low enough so that I lose channels completely, or get frequent pixelation errors.

I don't want to fight this problem forever, so I opened a case with Tivo support, suggesting that I would be happy to buy a new box without this problem if they were willing to transfer my lifetime service.

Of course, they were not willing to do so, and blamed the problem on TWC.

So I'm not sure what to do about all this. But it raises a number of questions.

1) Tivo support guy says "Whereas the signal does seem good (100 is a bit too high),". Is 100 really too high? Can a cable signal be too high, and if so, how does one actually verify this?

2) Tivo support guy says "those RS values should be as close to 0 as possible. With that type of feedback, it looks like there may be too much noise on the line". Yes, I know those values should be close to 0. Is this a symptom of the Tivo Series 3 HD problem with hot signals? How can I tell if there is actually noise on the line? Can TWC test this? Can I test it somehow?

3) Tivo support guy says "or quite possibly an issue with the CableCARD". I see basically the identical behavior on both Cable Cards. It doesn't seem likely that there is a problem with both cards. Any way to test this?

I don't mind sitting in the middle of a finger-pointing war between TWC and Tivo, if there is some way to drive it to conclusion. But I am afraid right now I don't have that possibility. If I get TWC to make a service call, I think they are just going to come out and say everything is good, and that my problems are all related to Tivo. If I do have a service call, I need to know what to do to get useful data out of it.

Has Tivo ever actually admitted that this problem exists? If not, is it a real problem, or just an urban legend?

One final note: Changing the settings for dolby output/PCM output has no effect on the problem.

- Mark

MLB.TV Not Supported on Roamio!

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 13:42
I recently decided to bite the bullet and upgrade from a practically new Premiere 4 to a Roamio Plus. Today I thought I'd watch an archived baseball game using the MLB.TV app. It didn't work. Well, after 2 calls to TiVo and one to MLB.TV I found out that MLB.TV is not supported on the Roamio (even though it is listed as a video provider in settings/channels). It is supported on the Premieres but not the Roamios! I just can't believe that I spent the money on the Roamio and lost some functionality. The second TiVo rep I spoke to told me she would submit a feature request to have this added but could give me no assurances that this would happen any time soon. If there are any other baseball fans out there, please call TiVo and request that they add MLB.TV functionality to the Roamio line.

OTA 101 - Can I use rabbit ears for the Roamio? Or do I need an HD antenna?

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 13:26
Hooking up my Roamio shortly, and plan on using just the OTA (no cable). Can I just hook up a spare set of rabbit ears to it? Or do I need a HD antenna?

Roamio Plus, Mini, and MoCa

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 12:16
Hey all --- was a loyal Tivo user ten years ago, but left when I went HDTV. Defended Comcast's service and hardware for years online, finally gave up on the hardware and got my Roamio Plus and three Minis last night.

Roamio Plus box is in my family room, directly above my wired/wireless router in my LL. Tried to connect via Moca to the internet with no luck, wireless worked fine. Setup was smooth, put the first Mini in my BR, connected the coax and got nada for over an hour. No connection.

Thought I might be investing in some powerline adapters, but now think I may just need to wait and see if the Mini eventually sees the Roamio? FYI, had a Comcast Multi-room in the fam room previously, it was connected to the internet and it connected to a satellite box in my BR just fine. Also --- have a guestroom with no coax connection, possible to use powerline ethernet in that room and MoCa everywhere else? Roamio seems to only do one type of connection at a time...

Wait to see if the MoCa connection in my BR takes? Sorry if this has already been talked to death, I've looked and not quite seen this scenario, my knowledge of networking is at least ten years out of date.


TiVo Glo Remote with 40" Vizio 2.1 Sound Bar (SB4021E-B0) with wireless sub

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 10:28
Can anyone please confirm that the new TiVo Glo Learning Remote (tivo.com/shop/detail/tivo-glo-remote) will learn to control the sound level on a particular 40" Vizio 2.1 Sound Bar (SB4021E-B0) with a wireless subwoofer (amzn.com/B00BHAQ2KO)? I've searched the internet AND this forum, and I can't find confirmation of this. If it works, obviously I'll buy a new remote for the TiVo, but if not, this sound bar is going back to the retailer. I don't want to drop $30 on a new remote for no reason, and I'm not using multiple remotes just to control sound. Already have too many.

So, just to review, please let me know if you have successfully programmed a TiVo Glo Learning Remote to control a Vizio SB4021E-B0 sound bar.

Thanks in advance!

TiVo Desktop Issue - TiVo Server Service Process has Stopped Working

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 10:05

I recently bought a new desktop computer running Windows 7. I repurchased from TiVo, TiVo Desktop 2.8.3 and installed it on the new desktop computer. Now, several times a day, the error message, shown in that attached word document, appears and the TiVo Server stops working and I am unable to download shows from my TiVo boxes.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled TiVo Desktop 2.8.3 several times and it does not solve the issue.

I did not have this issue with my older Windows 7 desktop PC running an earlier version of TiVo Desktop.

Please help me to figure out how to resolve this.


Hershey PA

TiVo Series 3
Tivo Premier Elite
TiVo Stream
Attached Files TiVo Error Message.doc (73.0 KB)

teckzilla revision 3 hd nation still not working

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 08:55
I'm disappointing this still isnt working on roamio. I'm wondering, how many other web series don't work with roamio that worked with earlier tivo's.

I'm catching up on Dr Who here

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 08:31
Just watched "Stolen Earth" and had to go to bed last night cuz work today, but dang good stuff :)

I'll tell you what, the parallel universe hopping and the Rose Tyler thing sure does make me think of and greatly miss Fringe.

Not sure why I didn't catch up sooner on this, but just so much TV and so little time :)

Kids are starting to get interested, wife keeps saying she is so lost, I don't think she really wants to get it ;)

Wireless Headphones with a Roamio

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 08:12
I used to use a pair of Sony wireless headphones with my old Premiere. I had to pull the red and white RCA cables out of the Premiere and plug in the headphones when I wanted to use them. It wasn't the most elegant solution but it worked.

I got a new Roamio for Christmas and I have no place to plug the headphones in. Any suggestions on how I can use wireless headphones?

Mob City S01E03-04 "Oxpecker"/"Stay Down" OAD 2013/12/18 *spoilers*

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 08:00
I thought this series was really good.

So in this fictional version, Bugsy Siegel is gunned down by Teague, the rogue cop. I am pretty sure, in reality, he's gunned down on orders from Myer Lansky and the NY crew, because of all the money he owed them from building the Las Vegas casino.

The (not so) silent majority - Happy with TiVo

TiVoCommunity Forum Recent Threads - Fri, 12/27/2013 - 06:44
As we all typically post when we have an issue - and say nothing when everything works, I thought it might be worthwhile to say "I'm happy with TiVo."

In fact, *very* happy.

I just replaced 3 cable cards (in Premieres) with Minis. That will save me $45/month in outlet and cable card fees. WIN!

Plus I can sell the lifetime Premiere boxes for less than the cost of the lifetime Minis. WIN!

PLUS, I now get a single "Now Playing" list and a single Season Pass and a single To Do list. WIN!

So, better TV experience, money in my pocket and lower monthly cable bills.

...and I haven't even touched streaming and portability.

Anybody else really glad they have TiVo?


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