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Review Thumbs screen not working on TiVo Premiere

Sun, 01/20/2013 - 12:53
l have TiVo Premiere XL - a few old or so. It's begun recording a lot of movies (bc my wife tends to record movies), so I wanted to remove some of the thumb ratings from movies, esp those we didn't really like. Movies take up a lot of space and I'd much rather have 5 tv shows in place of each movie in the suggestions. When the Suggestions start filling up with movies, there's not room for much else.

Anyway, on the HD Menus I went to "TiVo Suggestions" and then scrolled to the bottom and selected "Improve my TiVo Suggestions". It brings up the "Review Thumbs" screen that I expected, but after a moment a message appears which says "This screen allows you to review thumbs for programs you've already rated. Please rate a few programs and return to this screen to review them".

I have plenty of thumb ratings, so that should not be an issue. As I said, I've been using this TiVo for a few years. I tried rebooting... I still get the same message. I tried setting it to SD Menus and going to my Suggestion and hitting 'Enter'... I still get the same screen with the same message.

Any idea how I can kick this back into gear??

Tivo XL4 / are most people all digital?

Sun, 01/20/2013 - 12:20
Just interested in hearding from everyone on this. I would LOVE to get the XL4 because of the 4 tuners as well as it being required for the upcoming Tivo Mini which I so desperately want. But unfortunately all of my channels are not offered in digital. There are a handful of decent channels (like Comedy Central, Lifetime (for my wife), HGTV, and others) that are still analog only. To me its not worth paying that much money for the XL4 if I can't record all of the channels.... Anyway, I'm curious to see what percentage of people have channels that aren't offered in digital like me, or am I in the minority. I also am wondering if the Tivo 5 (or whatever it will be called) will continue to require digital only.

<Sigh> Tivo Desktop Plus Transfers Fail

Sun, 01/20/2013 - 12:02
So now that I got the software installed and upgraded to TiVo Desktop Plus I have learned that I cannot actually use the software to transfer recordings to my PC.

I set the PBS series Frontline for automatic transfer and logged in this morning expecting to see my fresh mp4 files transferred and converted. Yeah, no such luck.

So I learned the hard way that calling TiVo Support (Center Partners) is not the way to go because whether or not TiVo failed to train them or CP inadequately conveys training I could not say, but I have learned this is where I need to come to solve my problems with TiVo. Well, at least gripe about them. :rolleyes:

So I rebooted the PC and TiVo still got no joy, so I decided to dig a little deeper. I took a tcpdump of the connection to see that Tivo was resetting all the connections immediately after SSL change cipher spec is sent, then RST / FINs. This left me saying WTF so I sent to the logs.

curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 503 (failed on service availability)
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required (TiVo is NTLM)

Then it hits me ... this is a new WINDOWS computer build!!! I launched services.msc and disabled Windoze Firewall and stopped the service. Just then ...

HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required
Server: tivo-httpd-1:
Set-Cookie: sid=REMOVED; path=/; expires="Saturday, 16-Feb-2013 00:00:00 GMT";
WWW-Authenticate: Digest realm="TiVo DVR", nonce="REMOVED", qop="auth"
Content-Length: 31
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: keep-alive
Keep-Alive: max=10, timeout=30

HTTP/1.1 200 File Follows
Server: tivo-httpd-1:
Content-Type: video/x-tivo-mpeg
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
TiVo-Estimated-Length: 4624220160
Connection: close

The data started to move!!! Yea!!!

There are two morals to this story:
1) Microsoft still sucks and you should not rely on them for security, even though it worked here.
2) TiVo should stick to Linux code since they apparently cannot do something as simple as adding a Windoze firewall rule to allow their software to function out of the box.

TiVo, I hope your listening here:
Please release TiVo Desktop Plus compiled in .deb and .rpm. You're Linux and should be "Linux Proud!" It is not right to expect users to have to do what I did. I only have this Windoze computer because I don't trust your code on my Mac. I saved the tcpdump if you're interested...

TRAIN AND PAY your support staff!!! They are good people and deserve to be knowledgeable! As a high level support person myself I can promise you this works. If you want the model let me know via PM and I am happy to show you where this is working. Props on keeping them in America, this makes you better than most.

I hope this saves someone an hour of their life.

Multiple TV on one tivo?

Sun, 01/20/2013 - 11:38
Premiere XL on Charter Cable. I am feeding my SD tv with the composite (R-W-Y) cable from the tivo A/V output.

If I attach a HD tv using hdmi to the tivo will it feed signals to both TV's?

Thanks, Jon

Missing Channels - Charter

Sun, 01/20/2013 - 11:05
Premier - Charter with Tuning Adapter(TA) and CableCard.

I was receiving all my subscribed channels last week. This week a few HD channels show the screen that it is searching for a signal. On one of the channels I happened to see a weak signal come and go (pixelated for a few seconds then 0 signal, repeat a few times.)

I have used both tuners to test signal under the TA, DVD Diagnostics screen and neither tuner sees a good signal.

The DVR and TA have been power cycled and Charter has sent a reset to the TA. The truck should be here this afternoon.

Is there any chance this is a TiVo issue and not a Charter problem? What issue/how should I check for TiVo issues?

Possible to Transfer Shows from an S3 to a XL4?

Sun, 01/20/2013 - 08:29
Against my better judgment, I'm considering upgrading to a XL4. If I bought one, would I be able to transfer my shows on the S3 to the XL4 over my home network? I would do this before selling the S3. And does it require going through the Tivo Desktop software as an intermediary? Thanks.

TivoDesktopPlus won't install

Sun, 01/20/2013 - 01:16
I've had TivoDesktop 2.8.3 for quite a while. (Windows 7) Today I purchased the code for the upgrade to Desktop Plus. However, when I go to help/purchase upgrade/and enter the code, I get the message, "The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable." ... "enter a path to a folder containing the installation package TiVoDesktop2.8.3.msi".
I cannot find any file with that name. The installation package for 2.8.3 is TivoDesktop2.8.3.exe - NOT .msi

I have re-downloaded Tivo Desktop and reinstalled to no avail. Now what?

BTW - by default, it's looking for the .msi file in C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Temp\ - I hope it doesn't expect anything in a TEMP folder to stay around forever!

SNL 1/19/13 Jennifer Lawrence; The Lumineers

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 23:58
Piers Morgan Tonight
Jennifer Lawrence monologue
Starbucks Commercial
Girlfriends Talkshow
Post Hunger Games Press Conference
Hobbit 19
Johnny Two Tones Restaurant
The Lumineers perform
Weekend Update
..Top Stories
..Anthony Crispino
..More Top Stories
Top Dog Chef
Richard and the Buffalo
The Lumineers perform
Civil War Letters

The T'eo stuff and Hobbit 19 were great.

Moving Content To TiVo

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 22:49
I'm interested in taking the decrypted DVDs that I have and using TiVo Desktop Plus / pyTivo / kmttg to either serve up to my Premier or to transfer to my Premier. This looks like a much easier model than swapping my TV's input back and forth to my DVD player.

My question is should I transcode the DVD mpegs and, if so, to what?

I know how to consolidate the VOB files. I have VideoReDo and Handbrake.

MRS error: can't watch now

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 22:42
I have a Premiere and an XL4. The XL4 is using MOCA directly and the Premiere has a MOCA adapter on it.

MRS was working great with no problems.

My wireless router died so I got a Netgear WNDR4500 to replace it.

Ever since I got it about 75% of the time when I initiate the MRS from the Premiere it fails with an error of "can't watch now" and then the Premiere locks up completely and will not respond to the remote or app commands. I have to pull the plug and reboot it.

And then MRS will work fine for a while as long as we are watching shows.

It is obviously something with the new router but I cannot find any settings that seem to fix it.

Any ideas?

HD to XL4 + 3 Premieres: MoCA question

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 21:23
Hi All,

First, TiVo is priority one for my TV. When DirecTV stopped supporting them years ago, I dumped a 12 year relationship with them and switched to Comcast. TiVo is the sine qua non of TV. There is no substitute.

That said, since moving to Comcast on TiVo HD units, I've had a couple pet peeves. Being booted off live TV for two kids' TV shows to record is one, and the ridiculously slow (slower than real time) speed at which things transfer between units and the TiVo Desktop is the other.

With the sale just started, I finally am biting the bullet. Tivo Premieres around the house it is. But that leads me to a question regarding networking.

The XL4 that will be the centerpiece is wired Ethernet. It will be the only 4-tuner unit. The 75 hour, 2 tuner Premiere that will be in the basement is also hard-wire Ethernet. Two upstairs bedrooms will have Premieres do NOT have Ethernet, and no way to get it. I'll have to go the MoCA route to make that work.

So, the question is, do I need to put the two units that are hard-wired to Ethernet on a MoCA adapter as well? I don't see how the data can get off the XL4 and onto the MoCA (coax) network in the first place.

The TiVo site says if it is an XL4, you don't need MoCA, so perhaps it will sense when there's MoCA talk on the coax and just deal with it.... but what about the one in the basement? It is a 2-tuner Premiere, and I'm presuming it will need a MoCA adapter if it wants to reach the XL4 or the bedroom units.

I will also have two WIRED PlayStation3 units (one each at the site of the wired TiVo units, each on the same hub).

So, if I understand correctly, I need 3 MoCA adapters, one each for the non-XL4 units, whereas the XL4 will act as a bridge.

Or, if there is a TiVo God of Serendipity, the fact that I have an XL4 acting as a bridge could mean I don't need ANY MoCA adapters?

Thanks for helping set me straight.

Jeff W
Reading, PA

Initial Set up

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 20:01
We have been stuck on "getting info" for almost 3 hours. We are connected wireless to cable with TIVO Premiere. Should we hang in there or reboot?

dialog audio too low on Tivo Desktop recordings

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 19:13
I have Tivo Desktop Plus v2.8.3 running on my laptop with Windows XP. Playback of shows downloaded from my S3 have perfect sound on commercials, but during the shows, the dialog audio levels are super low while the "background" audio (laugh track, music, ambient sounds) are normal. I can't turn the volume up high enough to make the dialog discernible.

I've adjusted my laptop audio settings 9 ways from Sunday with no improvement. I tried the same show on my Windows 7 Desktop and the sound is fine. Is this a codec issue?

I ran ggieseke's TivoDesktopCodecMgr tool. The graph shows AC3 in to MainConcept Dolby Digital Audio Decoder, then to Tivo PCM Boost before going to Default DirectSound Device.

Is there a setting on my Tivo that needs to change?

Thanks for any assistance.


premire xl4 and cisco ta 1520 problems

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 17:45
it seems that cisco ta 1520 only allows 2 tuners. so if have a premire xl4 with 4 tuners you(like me) are in trouble til another update from cisco comes out. Cablevision told me they have no other boxes they are planning on using

3 month old XL4 goes dark

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 17:12
Yesterday my XL4 rebooted itself while I was watching a recorded show. Things were normal after that until a little less than 24 hours later when the recorded show I was watching went dark. I switched to live TV - also dark with a no signal message, other channels dark, other recorded shows dark.
What went wrong with my Tivo?

TV Land, Syndicated Shows - HD Question

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 16:34
Here's what may be a stupid question - I"ve been watching syndicated reruns like Roseanne, Cosby Show, etc. on TV Land HD. They play 4:3 on my HDTV.

Are these shows actually broadcast in HD or would it be the same if I recorded them on the standard channel and not waste the HD recording space, or is the picture quality actually better?


Sat, 01/19/2013 - 14:55
Quote: Originally Posted by bobotech (Post 9482416) Turn the laptop power off. When its off, use a can of compressed air and blow into the exhaust side of the vent and blow the crap out of the fans... But...but...it's not that easy.

Clean the Fan

Season Pass List

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 14:25
I did a search for "Season Pass" in thread titles, went back several pages, and was surprised that there was not a thread for people's Season Pass lists (easy enough to copy into Excel or similar program from the TiVo website Season Pass manager, clean it up, and post here).

I know I'd find it interesting to see what other's season pass lists look like, and perhaps discover new shows where someone has a lot of crossover with my own list. And of course, if you're worried about privacy, you don't have to post here. ;)

Since there wasn't a thread about this that I could find, I had to make a best guess as to what forum it best fit in. "TV Show Talk" seemed to make the most sense, but feel free to (gently) guide me elsewhere if I was wrong. Or for that matter, to guide me to an already-existing thread if you happen to know that there was one. Thanks!

With all that out of the way, here's my list. "Fringe" was just removed, considering that the last episode aired last night, and "Continuum" is still on the list solely because my wife liked it. :rolleyes: I had a hard time because I was continually rooting against the protagonist throughout the pilot. Come to think of it, "Grimm" is also on the list due to my wife. Note that these are not in any particular order, especially now that I have a 4-tuner TiVo.

Modern Family WJLADT
Game of Thrones HBOHD
The Big Bang Theory WUSADT
Suburgatory WJLADT
Futurama CCHD
True Blood HBOHD
Louie FXHD
Raising Hope WTTGDT
Episodes SHOWHD
Death Valley MTVHD
Family Guy WTTGDT
How I Met Your Mother WUSADT
Once Upon a Time WJLADT
Homeland SHOWHD
Person of Interest WUSADT
The Hard Times of RJ Berger MTVHD
Falling Skies TNTHD
Luther BBCA
House of Lies SHOWHD
The Walking Dead AMCHD
Breaking Bad AMCHD
Elementary WUSADT
Last Resort WJLADT
American Horror Story: Asylum FXHD
Gravity Falls DISNHD
Continuum SYFYHD
The Following WBFFDT

New User

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 14:07
:)Hi All!

I am a brand new TiVo owner, having bought a Premiere 4 last weekend. I wanted the Premiere 4XL (mainly for the recording space), but my Best Buy didn't have one, so I got the Premiere 4. I have a DVR expander, so I do have lots of room, but I am wondering if I should have looked harder to find an XL... I have an old TV (no flat screen or HD or anything special), and don't have any plans to replace it. Any thoughts?

Help with Dead Tivo HD

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 10:38

I would like some advice on repairing my Lifetime Tivo HD (1.5TB drive upgrade). After a recent power failure, the Tivo would not boot. Symptoms are:

1. No Video on HDMI or composite outputs
2. Hard drive spins up; i can hear the head seeking
3. Fan is on
4. Green and Yellow lights on Ethernet connector light up but do not blink; Et
5. Cable cards removed
6. Only power and video connected (no e-net or cable connection)
7. Power supply voltages OK but a little low; 12V supply was 11.5V

Based on the above, I purchased a replacement power supply from Weaknees.

After power supply was installed, no change in results. Any ideas on next troubleshooting steps?

FYI I am an EE so I can handle complex instrcutions but I only have a DVM.