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why no 1080p/60?

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 10:28
So on my Roamio I have output resolutions set at 1080p/60 and 1080p/24 (for netflix). I know that the Cable TV broadcasts are only going to be natively 720p or 1080i (or SD); however, I like having the Roamio scale everything up.

The Mini doesn't seem to have 1080p/60 for some reason. I see 1080p/24, but other then that there is only 720p (60) and 1080i (60). Is the hardware a limiting factor (can't support scaling to 1080p/60 like the Roamio)? Is there too high of bit rate / networking requirement for sending higher resolution streams? Any reason for it not to be an option, or will this come out in an update at some point?

Unable to hook up 2nd mini to Roamio

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 09:01
Is anyone having issues hooking up a 2nd mini to a Roamio Plus. I keep getting a V70 error and cannot complete the Guided Setup. Only option i have is to Retry or unplug the power cord and go thru the setup again. I've read some of the other threads here and have tried just about everything that has been suggested except setting up Moca. I've rebooted everything multiple times, renamed Roamio and forced connections. The 1st mini purchased thru Amazon worked right out of the box. No issues there except for using the Trendnet 8 port greenNet switch as posted in another thread. Then I purchased a 2nd mini from Best Buy (open box one). After contacting Tivo, they determined it was a defective unit. So returned it and got a new one from Best Buy yesterday. Called Tivo to transfer the service to the new mini. And again after multiple rebooting, renaming, forced connections, I'm still getting the same v70 error. I'll need to call Tivo again to escalate this issue. It seems very unlikely that I would have 2 defective units in a row.

Hooray! Season Pass Mgr and ToDo List on Mini

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 08:52
Recently upgraded to a Roamio Pro and 2 Minis. My wife usually watches TV in our bedroom and has been complaining because she was no longer able to view Season Pass Manager and ToDo List on the Mini -- she used these a lot on her old Series 3.

Last night I happened to download and read the Roamio owners manual (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=509097) and saw the shortcut list to access functions -- from Tivo Central Press 1 for Season Passes, 2 for ToDo Lists, etc.

I decided to try them on one of the Mini's and to my surprise, they worked. Showed them to my wife and she was much happier.

I don't know if everyone already knew about this, but for us, it definitely improved our Mini experience.

A/V info display in Netflix

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 08:44
Somehow I enabled the A/V info display in Netflix on the TiVo Mini. In between shows I tested the thumbs up and down buttons to see if it would change the rating. This did not do anything except enable the A/V info.

Has anyone else seen this?

Is this typical for PPV (Comcast)

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 08:42
Yesterday, I ordered the Mayweather PPV fight via the Comcast website. At the time of the fight, I noticed on 2 of my Tivo's that I was getting "Program has not been authorized" message, yet on the other 2, the fight was coming in perfectly. I would have thought I would have been able to receive it on all of my devices.

Watching mkv files with tvdesktop plu

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 07:40
Am a little confused as to how this works. I normally use wdtv for watching my mkv files but as I'm the only one that can figure out how to change inputs on my system i Like that i can watch them from the Tivo central menu. Do I actually have to transfer file from hard drive on my network to the tivo box or can i just stream it from there? I've just started experimenting with this and like the promise of it.

Getting V113 error when streaming from only one Premiere?

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 06:41
I have 3 Tivo Premiere's in my home connected to Linksys EA6500 router via wired connection.

They've been working fine until yesterday. I am unable to transfer or watch shows from one of the units. It's giving me a V113 error.

Everything else works fine. I can see all of the shows fine and even the unit which cannot stream/transfer works fine when connecting to the other units.

It appears like a network connection issue with the one DVR but I can't tell where to troubleshoot.

What should I do here?

Select Button on Tivo Remote

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 06:39
I have three Tivos and four remotes. Two of the remotes are fully functional. The other two remotes are useful but the Select buttons do not work. When I press the Select button, the red light goes on but the Tivo does not respond; unless I am Finding Titles in the Alphabet screen to spell out a program title, when I cursor to a letter and press select, the Select button only advances the cursor to another letter but does not select the letter that I want. I have globally rebooted both of these remotes and changed the batteries. These two faulty remotes have the same problem on all three Tivos. I now want to retire one of my Tivos and give the remote, with its Lifetime Service to my daughter. Is there a way to refurbish my Remote or do I need to buy a new Remote so I can pass on a fully functional Tivo?

HD output setting on new Roamio Plus

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 03:38
Need a quick lesson from you Pros. I have a 1080p TV. Up until my Roamio, I've been using a standard def box from Comcast with a Series 2 TiVo. Never jumped to an HD box because I didn't want to have to use IR blaster with my Series 2 and HD box. My standard def box had a serial port or whatever it was called and changed channels perfectly. I once looked at an HD box and it didn't have that port so I kept my standard def box.

On to my question. My Roamio Plus auto select wants to set my output at 1080i. I know for sure my TV is a 1080p. Should I force it or does my Roamio know best?

Again, I'm new to Hi-Def settings other than my Blu-Ray player.

Thanks in advance and loving my Roamio so far.

MOCA / Network Traffic

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 03:27
So I enabled the MOCA bridge inside of the Roamio so that I could hookup a Mini using just the coax. I have the Mini working okay, it shows that it is connected using MOCA, everything seems to work okay.

It was my understanding that one of the advantages of using MOCA was that the streaming traffic would be carried over the coaxial instead of my wired ethernet network. Is that really the case though?

I expected to see that the Roamio would essentially setup its own network, assigning its own IPs to MOCA clients on some separate subnet. Essentially it would act like another router strictly for MOCA.

Looking at the info on my Mini, and on my router, it is clear that it is pulling an IP from my router (and of course on the same network subnet). So due to that, it makes me wonder if streaming data for my Mini is actually passing through my router; therefore, I am not really saving myself from network traffic (which I wanted to avoid).

Does anyone know the correct details?

Control of the new Roamio over TCP/IP

Sun, 09/15/2013 - 01:42
So, I've just converted one of my two TiVo HD XLs to a TiVo Roamio Pro. At first glance, it's a great device. Here is my problem. With the XDs (series 3), you could could control all of their basic features over IP and even get some analog feedback.

This worked really well as I have these wired into a home A/V distribution system & have a single control interface gui for the entire system (several video sources, several audio sources.)

To my dismay, it appears that TiVo has either changed this feature, or removed it from the new Roamio device. I would think this highly unlikely as there are several other applications that access it externally.

Does anyone know of any outfacing API that is in use for the new Roamio series? Have they done something with RESTful webservices or the like?


So close!

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 23:50
Those of you that read my posts know that I b*tch a lot about the fact that my cable company still has a bunch of channels that they offer in analog only. Well every now and then I go through the channels on my Elite (now Roamio) checking those channels just to see if they're finally being simulcast. Well today I actually found some. It turns out that about 75% of the channels are now being simulcast. Unfortunately a couple of the ones that aren't are still important so I can't get rid of my Premiere units just yet. However this gives me hope. Maybe in the not to distant future I'll be able to finally get rid of the Premiere units and consolidate everything onto the Roamio. (fingers crossed)

Intermittent high RS corrected/uncorrected errors

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 23:18
This one has me baffled. For the last several months I've been getting sporadically high RS corrected/uncorrected errors on a few channels resulting in pixelation/macro blocking. The odd thing, is the sporadic nature of these events. Most of the time I have zero corrected/uncorrected RS errors on all channels. However on a handful of channels I'll notice pockets of these errors. I had a senior tech come out to check my levels and he said they're perfect and that the average error rate was one in 9 billion which he said was very low. I've noticed this behavior on two Premiere XL4's as well as my new Roamio Pro - so it's not limited to one particular TiVo or even one cable line. FYI, I have no splitters only a zero gain amplifier.

At this point I can only speculate that it's either a condition that is accentuated when under load, or the errors are in the transmission stream itself.

Any ideas?

My Roamio Plus experience

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 22:09
Thought I'd share my experience with setting up a new Roamio Plus. I'm a long time TiVo user, Series 2 for years. I was most recently using an upgraded TiVoHD. Decided to skip the Premieres.

Picked up a Roamio Plus today to replace my TiVoHD. So far, the whole experience has been fantastic. I'm in Southern NH with Comcast. I had an up to date firmware Motorola card so I was lucky to get all 6 tuners working.

The setup was painless. Guided setup quick.....bunch of connections to TiVo.

I do have to hand it to Comcast. The Cablecard Hotline is a thing of beauty. They are just awesome and know exactly what they are doing. Heck, the woman even asked if I got the new Roamio DVR. She was excited. Most Comcast CS reps don't know what a Cablecard is and push the X1 over and over. Anyway.....5 minutes later and everything paired.

Overall, coming from a TiVoHD....it is AWESOME. Great job TiVo! Menus are fast!

The iOS apps are great and actually work (unlike with the TiVo HD). Season pass transfer online went perfect.

So far, really happy. Definitely recommend it to anyone looking to upgrade.


Netflix streaming speed on Premiere

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 19:48
I don't know if anyone else has measured this, I've only gotten hard #s on two different evenings. . .but. . .

I have a Premiere, Vizio smart TV, and Apple TV all plugged a connection with the exact same bandwidth (inside my own house on just this LAN segment in question, I can transfer files from my Mac to my NAS at 128Mb/s, so controlling for other things both my router and my downstream internet are very capable).

Comcast is my ISP (& DNS), and though some shows/movies on Netflix are labeled on screen "SuperHD" yet when I go to the test URL in my browser, I get the "not supported yet."


Yet of all 3 devices plugged into the same connection, there is a pretty significant difference in the bandwidth they can pull down from Netflix.

Monitored by the traffic flow meter in my Asus RT-N66U router which averages over trailing 3-5 minutes, and there was no other activity on my network pulling from the internet at that time (I can verify in my lists of live connections, etc.).

1st test on 9/12/13 late evening (tested House of Cards, as screenshot above "Super HD" though info conflicted on that, minimum I should be at least HD (according to what Netflix says I'll need).

- 460 KB/s average over trailing 5 min, which is about 3.5 Mb/s to a Premiere in its Netflix application
- 950KB/s which is 7.125Mb/s, on the ATV-3

so slightly more than twice the bandwidth on the AppleTV3 (tests were within 30 min of each other as well)

two footnotes
1. My Netflix preferences on their website are for highest quality available
2. My Premiere to Premiere txfrs on my network are pretty fast, from 40Mb/s on the slowest one, to 60-80Mb/s if one or both are wired, so my actual Premiere networking appears to be in decent health.

2nd test 9/13/13 late evening, same show, house of Cards
- .92 Mb/s streaming to TiVo Premiere (!!)
- 2.67 Mb/s Netflix streaming direct to Vizio smart TV
- 5.37 Mb/s Netflix streaming to ATV3

Yes differences in video quality were noticeable, but at the same time I was also impressed with the relatively good picture at 1Mb/s. However, this is not good!

Here is a sad screenshot in which you can see the difference when I switched from ATV3 streaming to the Premiere. The tan bump of upstream activity was accidentally turning on a torrent server on my NAS for about one minute, even if you canceled out the slight downstream it brought with for that minute, the ATV3 to Premiere streaming switchover is rather conspicuous.

The only thing I haven't done in my home is test different Premieres. . .not that I think there will be a significant difference. I just wonder who to blame, and how/why it does this, and if there is anything we can do about it.

I'm wondering if anyone else has tested (controlling for other things like speed/connection quality, other LAN traffic, on multiple nights, same show, etc.).

Roamio Remote - Perfectly Symmetrical!

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 19:17
While I'm enjoying the compact form factor and response of the new Roamio remote, I must admit I've managed to pick it up wrong-end forward about 50% of the time!

The thing is nearly perfectly symmetrical - in shape, weight, balance and texture. Argh!

My old Glow Remote at least had a ribbed texture on the bottom and a flat/dimple near the top. When I grab that remote, I can clearly orient the thing by touch with no difficulty. Also, the IR window on the front tip of the Glow has a distinctive "edge" to it that also helps orient by touch.

There is a ribbed texture on the new Roamio remote, but it's right in the center and the flats/dimples are symmetrically positioned at each end. There is no visible IR window.

My only non-visual index is the small fingernail gap in the battery door at the bottom of the remote. Falls right at the tip of my pinky finger as I hold the thing. Maybe I'll get better at it with time. :)

New TiVo Premiere XL won't connect with old TiVo Premiere

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 19:06
Have a new XL that I set up on my network but I can't get the new and old TiVos to share video's. I have checked all network settings I can think of, reset both Premieres and checked the TiVo.com settings and everything appears correct. Hostory:

Both TiVo's are connected through a MoCA network (the older Premiere is using an adaptor). I initially thought I only wanted to use the older Premiere with OTA so I pulled the CableCard and used it with the tuning adapter on the New Premiere. At that point I could browse the older TiVo now playing list.

I wasn't happy with the channel lineup on the TiVo without the cablecard, so I git a new cablecard and tuning adapter. After getting that configured, neither TiVo can see each other (the respective TiVo is grayed out with an explanation point).

Both TiVo's can connect to the network. TiVo.com has both linked on my account with the right settings. I have also noticed that both TiVos are missing some channel lineups despite being on the network several hours now.
I've forced network connections and restarted both.

Thanks for any help

Manual for Roamio

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 18:43
I apologize for the confusion about where to find the manual for Roamio.

Here is a link:


change where mini gets tuner from

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 17:28
I have a roamio that is on my main tv. Hardwired internet with moca enabled and working. I have a Xl4 that is in the bedroom working and connected using the moca. My mini is using a tuner from the roamio and i want it to use one from the XL4. When I go to through the setup on the mini the XL4 is not available to use as a tuner for live tv. Only gives the roamio as an option, xl4 is seen but not available. Does that unit also have to be hardwired to my router or should i be able to use the mini with just moca.
I can play stuff from either unit.

Thanks for the help

Don't abandon OTA

Sat, 09/14/2013 - 17:03
The Roamio line pretty much abandons OTA recording; only the basic unit supports it, and then only in a practically useless way: if you configure the basic Roamio to do OTA, you lose the ability to record off cable.

I can't predict the future, but the TV world seems to be evolving in a way that will require both OTA and cable tuners. The biggest piece of evidence is the recent battle between CBS and TWC. Subscribers to TWC in several major cities (including NYC, Dallas, and LA) lost cable access to CBS for a month, and had to use OTA to receive CBS. I've even read that TWC provided free antennas to some subscribers!

That corporate battle is now over, but it was settled in CBS's favor; CBS is now charging TWC a high redistribution fee for the same channel CBS broadcasts over the air. Given this outcome, cable companies are likely to have to pay more and higher fees for broadcast stations, and may simply choose to stop carrying them. And many cable customers may choose to receive these stations via an OTA antenna.

The long and short of it is that there may well be a growing demand for a Tivo that does what my Premiere XL does: allow me to record both cable and OTA stations.