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Tivo XL4 w/ Lifetime & Tivo Stream

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 21:32
Selling my like new Tivo XL4 w/ Lifetime Service and Tivo Stream. Both come with box, original packaging and all accessories. Everything is in perfect condition cosmetically and functionally.

Craigslist ad: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ele/4015384197.html

$675 or Best Offer!

TA question

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 21:11
After I got my Roamio pro and I take my 2 single stream cable cards in for 1 multi stream card should I also make sure to take my TA to make sure the firmware is up to date to support 6 tuners? I did do a search;) and from I'm reading all the TA's should have updated firmware to support the 6 tuners. oop's I forgot to add that I have cox cable if that matters

Roamio Pro - The Good, the Bad & the Unkown?

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 20:43
So I'm on the fence on buying the Roamio Pro. There are a lot of things to like, but quite a few things I'm disappointed aren't yet available. Here's my list of good, bad and unknown. Please add to it as you see fit.

The Good
  • New hardware should be much faster
  • 6 tuners
  • Updated interface
  • Built-in streaming capability
  • Built-in Wi-Fi support (which I don't use)

The Bad?
  • Streaming not available, yet
  • Android streaming support not available, yet
  • Windows PC streaming support not available, and no signs of it in the future
  • $600 (ouch) + $400 lifetime service (ouch) = $1000 (double ouch)
  • No THX certification?

The Unknown?
  • Will 6 channel support work with Time Warner tuning adapter in Raleigh, NC? It's unclear how many channels the tuning adapters support.
  • Will streaming be supported for Time Warner cable channels? Currently with my Premiere I can only download over-the-air channels to the TiVo Desktop. The other channels are copyright protected.
  • No Sirius XM streaming capability? (this would be a really nice addition)

What am I missing from these lists?

I'm also disappointed that TiVo won't offer better pricing for long time TiVo customers or the ability to transfer lifetime service. I've been a customer since the first 14 and 30 hour TiVo Series 1. I still own 4 TiVos, including 3 Series 2s and 1 Premiere. I know they've got to make money, but it's still disappointing.

Regards, Daniel

Component output confusion

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 20:33
The pictures of the back of the Roamio Pro and Plus clearly show component output connectors.

The tivo.com feature comparison web page for the Roamios clearly shows an X (nada) for component output for all 3 models.

Various reviews say it does have component output.

Will someone who couldn't wait and got next day shipment please report on the actual state of affairs? Are the component output connectors only there for decoration, or can you get a picture on them?

Thanks in advance.

(I would vastly prefer that the component output works - I have nothing but trouble with HDCP - things like switching the TV input for a minute then switching back sometimes takes forever to decide that it is valid to send a picture again. There are so many incompetent implementations of HDCP on devices with HDMI output, and I know what category I'd expect the TiVo engineers to fall in :-).

No Amazon Prime? Really?

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 20:16
I would love to hear the justification for not allowing Amazon Prime Streaming on the Roamio.

You'd think that would be one of the many weaknesses/omissions they would fix.

There's really no excuse for not having it at this point.

Pity.

Fix it, Tivo, and you get my money. If not, I'll sit on this series 4 until it crumbles to dust.

2 Streams on one network?

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:57
I already have 2 Premieres and a Stream. If I add a 6 tuner Roamio can I keep the existing Stream on the network in order to still be able to stream from the Premieres, since the Roamio has built-in streaming?

MoCa via Mini and Roamio to supplant home network

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:51
I'm new to the MoCa scene. I have a Roamio Plus and a Mini on order.

My current network cable-modem and router and GigE switch are in my office, this is is where the Mini will sit. I have a single cat5 cable running via a very difficult run to have installed, running to a GigE switch and router running as a Wireless Access Point in my living room which is where my main TV is and Roamio Plus will live.

I'm wondering if A) can I plug my router or switch via a Cat 6 cable into the Mini in the office, and then plug the switch into the Ethernet port in the Living Room, and use the remaining ports on the switch to feed the WAP and other networked devices in my living room area? B) Will the performance over MoCa with the prior scenario be better than my current scenario?

What are the pros and cons of these situations?

Netflix commands freeze after appx 1 hour of viewing

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:31
When I watch Netflix on my Tivo Premiere XL for appx an hour, it "freezes", i.e., whatever I'm watching will continue to play, but I can't pause, rewind, stop --- nothing except hit the TiVo button and go back to the main TiVo menu, then re-enter Netflix to get the commands to work again. Is this a common problem??

What is my Series 3 HD worth?

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:23
I decided to upgrade to the Roamio and get rid of my S3 HD THX. Can anyone tell me what it is worth? I replaced the hard drive, I think to 500gb. Recording time says 70 hours, does that sound right? Thanks.

Thinking about switching back to Tivo - questions

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:23
With the new Roamios out now, I'm thinking about switching back to Tivo.

I had one of the original Sony Series 1 boxes with a lifetime subscription. The box is long dead, but I still have the serial number / service number. Could I transfer that to the new Roamio? How much would it cost?

Does Tivo Desktop allow you to start watching a show before it completes downloading to the PC? I'd prefer to just be able to stream it instead of downloading, but that would work ok too.

Can you play MKV files (like blu-ray rips, etc.) from a remote network share on the Tivo? How about from the Mini? I can do this now on my HTPC, but it would be nice to have one device to do it all.

Advice on plan for new premiere

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:16
I just bought a Premiere and with the Roamio coming out now am undecided on the plan to get.

1st - I see nothing worthwhile right now on the Roamio for me. I already own a stream, so will get all that functionality, and have a the mini. The 6 tuners would be nice, but Im not a super DVR'er - I rarely had a conflict with 2 tuners. 4 will be plenty, esp when the dynamic tuning is fixed. I also am disappointed that the options are 1 TB or 3 TB. 2 TB is perfect for me.

So assuming I will keep the premier for 1 year, an then consider upgrading,is the lifetime plan even worthwhile? Would I get any of it back if I resold it on eBay.

Or should I just say screw it, return the premiere and order the Roamio?

1080P and my Series 3

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:09
Quick questions regarding 1080P...

1) Does my Tivo Series 3 produce 1080p?

2) Does charter even broadcast in 1080p?

3) Would I get a better picture with the new Tivo Roamio?


Thank you!

Roamio owner initial feedback

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:02
Some of us could be receiving our Roamio as soon as tomorrow. Feedback on unboxing, setup and initial reaction might be interesting. We have read the reviews, now for some feedback from those who really count!!

Tivo will not honor grandfather Tivo transfer to Roamio

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 19:01
I have a grandfathered tivo (KDB 09-07-04) that has been confirmed by tech support to be eligible.

Tonight I called Tivo to purchase a Roamio. They refused to sell me one. They said I will have to wait a few weeks until they have a "standalone" available without any subscription on it. They also said this "standalone" will cost more than the $200 but not sure how much.

The bottom line is Tivo is going to charge me more for the hardware to transfer lifetime that was grandfathered by in 1999. Not a very good way to treat an old customer.

on order :)

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 18:58
4 to 6 days is going to kill me I'm not good at waiting. :D

No Class Action!

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 17:55
Guess TiVo got tired of all the class action forum threads/threats... ;)

Any retention Premier deals now the new boxes are out?

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 17:18
I have 2 Premier boxes gathering dusts in the closet. Is there any good deals to re-activate them either monthly or lifetime service?

Upgrade?

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 17:15
I'm still a bit confused as to why I should upgrade from my Premiere. Is the Roamio worth upgrading to?

UV collectors sign in here! VUDU / FLIXSTER

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 17:12
I love UltraViolet movies http://www.uvvu.com

I have almost 200 UV movies and watch via Vudu on my Roku for my Projector and with Vudu on my Samsung Evolution Kit. I used to use Flixster on my Google TV which also works very good. I would love to stop using both and instead use Tivo to watch UV movies and get the Tivo Mini. If Tivo had UV support I would sell my Roku / and evolution kit to buy the Mini. I also have two Chromecasts, but they don't support UV movies yet either.

So you have a UV collection and want it on your new TIVO, please respond to this thread and let us know how many movies you have!

Also for people that don't know much about UV, if you want some movies cheap UV is perfect for you. On ebay UV movies - (HDX - blu-ray quality) cost between $4 and $6. which is 3x 4x cheaper than buying digital movies direct from amazon/itunes/or vudu itself. There are even a few online stores you can buy codes from. Another way to get UV movies with new movies, just buy them add the code to your account, then resale the discs. Most of them time you can get 95% of price back for just released movies.

GO TIVO AND GO UV!!! GO TIVO AND GO UV!!! GO TIVO AND GO UV!!!

Plus or Pro?

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 17:03
I think the only difference is the storage 150 hours vs. 450 hours. Is it worth $200?

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