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Silly MSD question... Was told no MSD with 2 boxes.

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 21:50
Hey folks. This could be my lack of Tivo plan knowledge, but I've browsed around and I'm still confused on their MSD policy.

I have a Series 3 sitting in my closet with Lifetime, a Premiere with Lifetime, and I was thinking of buying a Roamio Plus and adding Lifetime to that. The gentlemen over chat told me that I would have to have my Series 3 up to get the MSD of $399 even if only for a few minutes.

Wouldn't 2 units (Roamio and Premiere?) count as MSD? To be honest, I plan to sell both of these in the future, but now I'm re-thinking such a move because if I upgrade 3 years form now, I may not qualify for future MSD. Anyone else have this issue? Thanks a bunch. -Jeff

Installation Help Please

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 21:29
OK, I need some help installing my new Roamio. I bought the 4 tuner model. Here's what I did:

1. I moved the cable from the wall from the DTA installed by Comcast to the back of the Roamio.

2. Since I have never used HDMI, I don't have a cable. I do have an ethernet cable so I plugged that into the Roamio and also into the TV.

3. I plugged in the power on the Roamio.

4. I made sure the TV is on Channel 3.

I expected guided setup to start but I've got nothing but static on the TV. What am I doing wrong? Does it have to be HDMI?

Unboxing my TIVO now and had a question

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 21:28
I got me a TiVo174 Roamio DVR at amazon for $149..I am taking my cable DVR boxes back to charter tomorrow.

Have a quick question.I use the pause and rewinds buttons alot watching sports and was wondering how are these compared to the cable DVR boxes?Can you move the pause menu from the bottom to the top?I always hated that on the cable DVR cause most of the times it was in the way.Anybody know if you can do that on this TIVO model I have?

How about the FF and rewinds buttons? Do you have about 5 speeds for rewind and FF like the cable box or do you have more?

Possibly new bit of V52/V53 troubleshooting

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 20:49
Every weekday at 5:59pm switched digital video channels become unusable for me, usually with a V52 error but occasionally V53. I think it's related to overlapping recordings (there are threads on that already).

Today I called Tivo support about this again and they quickly started talking about the signal strength and SNR being too high. We tried an experiment by removing the coax connection to the Roamio and power cycling it. When it came up, DVR Diagnostics was still showing ~17db SNR even with the coax unplugged. This caused the tech to immediately recommend a warrantee replacement of the Tivo.

I haven't seen this mentioned previously here. Sorry if it's been discussed previously.

Now how do I get my recordings moved to the new Tivo!

2014 XXII Olympic Winter Games - Collections

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 19:29
The Olympics collections are out. Wish there was an easy way to just record all of them instead of one at a time.

Also, strange that "Rocky Balboa" appears in a few of them (like Luge and Ski Jumping). :confused:

Anyway, schedule away!

Netflix & Start from Beginning

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 19:04
Kids started a movie and didn't finish yesterday. Today they wanted to start from the beginning and we couldn't figure it out.

Any ideas?

just realized only 2 tuners on my tuning adapter... how to use all 4?

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 15:42
i kept wondering why the whole 4 tuner thing would not work, then i got a message saying my tuning adapter only supports 2..

is there a way to fix this.. or an adapter i can buy and give time warner back theirs?


Fios Question

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 14:08
I don't think I've seen this question in my search on the site so forgive me if it's been answered before.

I bought an xl4 and will be going to verizon to pick up a cable card this week. but after some google'ing I came across a verizon fios page that says this.

Is TiVo compatible with FiOS TV?

TiVo® is compatible with FiOS TV. You can use a Set-Top Box or a CableCard for your TiVo device.

With a Set-Top Box you receive all the FiOS TV features.

If you use a CableCard, certain Interactive Media Guide, Widget, and VOD services will not be accessible.

I know I can use a cable card, but what do they mean by "use a set top box"?

this is the first thread I have started on here so take it easy on me :)
was a long time series 2 user and just recently found out I can use a Tivo box for Fios so I got a xl4 for my man cave (my wife calls it my office).



Mon, 02/03/2014 - 13:44
Is there a "preference" one over the other for a 2TB upgrade for a P4 746320? This is for a NIB machine that is still sealed and was purchased in maybe 2010.

Selling TiVo's rather than codes

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 12:57
So a number of people have asked about selling discounted boxes rather than codes, but given the way eBay charges it doesn't stack up. I want to consider other methods and would like some feedback.

Right now the financials of selling a code rather than a physical unit are as follows

- TiVo Roamio Pro with Lifetime sells direct for $1099.98
- with a code it sells for $699.99 - a saving of $500
- loyalty codes have offered it for $899.99 so saving of $200

So conservatively, someone buying a code may only want to spend $100 i.e. splitting the difference with the code seller. Others may prefer to buy the box as it is considered less risky, but they would want it for $799.99 i.e. the net cost of buying the code and doing it themselves. The problem is a seller can't make the same net profit when selling a box for $799.99 the way eBay and Paypal are structured. The calculations are as follows

+$799.99 - eBay price for Roamio Pro and Lifetime
-$79.99 - eBay's 10%
-$699.99 - cost of buying the roamio from TiVo
-$23.50 - PayPal fee of 2.9% + $0.30

Net = $-3.49 i.e. a loss not to mention the up to 21 day wait for payment clearance on PayPal and having to use your own funds to buy the TiVo directly.

The only way this could work was if we avoided eBay completely and setup a separate store front. In order to link the account correctly on TiVo's site ideally the buyer's credit card details would have to sent across (which I know would not fly) or a prepaid card would have to be purchased with the cleared paypal funds.

In all selling boxes rather than codes could be done, but there would have to be sufficient interest and trust for a store outside of eBay to be set up.


Shameless "Strangers on a Train" 2/2/14 **SPOILERS**

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 11:50
Gallagher = self-destruction!!!

First off that scene on the train was something else! And the look on that older lady back at Fiona was priceless!

In the early seasons I wasn't too crazy about Carl's character, but he really didn't do all that much. Now he's a little older and is extremely loyal to Frank. When he jumped off the ladder with all those weights to break Frank's leg I cringed!!!

Lip is a very smart person, but has very poor impulse control. Again no surprise since he's still a Gallagher!! But at least at the end he wangles out a re-test.

In the preview:

Spoiler: I'll bet you that Lip starts getting things together and then the Army MPs come for him since Ian was using his name and ID and probably got in trouble or went AWOL.

So far this season is proving very entertaining!!!


Plug Chromecast into Roamio (basic)?

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 10:04
I am in the process of cutting the cable (actually satellite) and going to OTA signals. I have a Chromecast which works fine plugged into the TV. I am thinking about getting a Roamio so I can record the OTA signals to watch later. I know that I will be able to record Hulu+, etc shows on the Roamio, but wonder about things from the net that the Roamio does not support with an app.

If I plug the Chromecast into the Roamio will I be able to record signals from the Chromecast? For example, I can watch Fox Sports Go on my tablet now, and would like to be able to send it to the Chromecast, then record it on the Roamio for later viewing.

I scheduled a recording online, received confirmation(!), but it wasn't scheduled ???

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:54
Hi - I have a TiVoHD DVR on a wired network. Signal strength is fine (99/100). I'm on FiOS, and never any network issues (we run a business at home so would notice if network was down).

On 1/30 (2 days before the event) I used the web interface to schedule a recording of the superbowl. I received the two Emails (request received, recording confirmed), but in fact nothing was ever scheduled on my TiVo. At 6:40 on Sunday, neither tuner was recording, and nothing was mentioned in the ToDo list or recording history, and there was nothing in the Messages list. In the previous week I had scheduled 2 other recordings in the same manner successfully (i.e., they WE'RE on the Todo list and there WAS a message).

I contacted TiVo by chat, and all they could do is scratch their head, and suggest that if I tried it again and it worked, then it was fixed. Oddly, they had no way (or no interest in) tracing the request through their servers.

Point is, if you can't trust the confirmation Email, what good is the online interface?

I was wondering if others had experienced this - or if there was a resolution/workaround?


TV input button on remote

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:53
On my Samsung TVs, the input button scrolls you through a transparent menu and you have to hit a seperate select button to clear the menu. With the Roamio remote, the input button scrolls me through the input options fine, but I can not find any button to clear the menu. It takes over a minute for the menu to finally clear on it's own, and it's annoying. I now have to keep my TV remote next to the TiVo remote, but I would really like to use only one remote.

Any options with the current remote, or is the Slide Pro Remote with more learning buttons an option?

S1 hacks in Roamio

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:46
When I noticed the % hardrive space indicator on the Roamio main screen, I remember how excited I was when I loaded that hack on my Series 1. It made me think about how many of those S1 hacks are now standard in the TiVo software. I don't know if TiVo listened to the hackers, or if it was a natural progression of increased functionaility.

I still do miss the days of hacking though. That was so much fun!

Can a mini push internet out to other devices?

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:43
I know you can hook other devices to the ethernet port of a roamio (connected via moca) to give them access to your network.

Is the same true for a tivo mini?

channels not tuning in

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 08:34
I was having random channel tuning issues with a Series 3 HD unit (model #TCD652160) in a basement bedroom. I tried another identical Series 3 unit in this room and had the same problem. I called Comcast to have the cable card repaired (both units), but still had the issues. Since they are older Series 3s, I thought it was the TiVos themselves and even at one point thought it was the cable card firmware.

I saw some post here about cable card firmware and how getting the firmware updated fixed the problem, but these were issues mainly in FL & I am in GA. I called and tried to get Comcast to "upgrade" the firmware, but they told me this was not available for me & their engineers said it wasn't the problem.

Recently, I got a discounted 2-tuner Premiere and stuck it in this bedroom instead thinking these random tuning issues would go away. Nope and still had them. Another thing too is the old Series 3 TiVos were moved to the basement rec room and work fine on another outlet so it made me then think there is an issue with that room and its outlet.

The only thing I can think of is there is a Comcast installed amplifier in this room that is needed for the entire house and our Comcast internet. Its the only factor that is different from the other 4 perfectly working TiVos (Series 3 and 4s). Here is a picture of the Comcast installed amplifier.

As you can see from the pics, one coax end goes to the TiVo Premiere in that room. The other end of the splitter then essentially goes back outside to the Comcast coax distributor for the other TiVos (and is amplified this way)

Does this sound like its probably the issue? If so, I have to figure out where Comcast can maybe install this AND not affect other TiVos in my house (currently 3 other live TiVo outlets)

Tivo Plus with Plex!

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 07:32
So how would Plex fit into the TivoDesktop software? A re-write obviously, we would no longer allow you to send video taking valuable space but would Stream not only Video but the entire Plex package (Photos, Videos and Music), also assuming we were granted full access it would also open the channels live as well. How much would this new enhanced Tivo add-on costs? For the value it would bring to both sides, I'm sure a compromise would be made, for a first time would cause a overwhelming desire to own.For what little research that would need to be done to make the conversion possible, Tivo would save millions in R&D plus they would gather a huge fanbase of support like never before.

Before we had the upgrade there was no way of hope in seeing such a day as close as now. I'll be honest nobody thought we could get this close to a timeline.

We are still missing a few apps to come at a later point.
*Plex* (No Longer necessary if we have Tivo Plus with Plex!) :rolleyes:
Amazon Prime
iHeart Radio
RedBOX Instant
Shoutcast Radio

Sherlock series 3, better or worse than series 1 and 2 ?

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 04:58
I'm not enjoying series 3 of Sherlock as much as series 1 and 2. The episodes seemed more confusing in spots, and more jerky/jumping around in their presentation.

I like where the characters arrived at, but didn't enjoy watching the journey. I know this is vague, and may not make much sense, but I can't quite put it into words.

If I remember correctly, even the wedding episode (which I liked) had something off-putting in its makeup, something I don't remember from episodes in series 1 or 2.

What's the opinion of the Sherlock fans here?

Help me understand how tuners are used

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 01:24
When I click info and go to the tuners list I see that all of them are tuned to different channels. Besides the one I am viewing and any recordings I scheduled why are the remaining tuners in use? They seem to be tuned to random stations. Does the TiVo require all tuners to always be tuned to something? This really confuses me.