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How will the market for used Premieres evolve?

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 12:39
I'm fairly new to TiVo. I purchased my first TiVo just last June so I have never observed first hand a TiVo hardware upgrade cycle. For those of you have seen previous hardware refreshes can you offer some guesses on how the market for used TiVo Premieres might evolve?

I expect a flood of used Premieres with lifetime to hit the market in the next few months and prices to trend downward. After the early adopters have all migrated to Roamio do prices stabilize or continue a steady march lower?

Only the cheapest one with antenna? No thanks

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 11:36
Only the cheapest of these new devices lets me use a regular off the air antenna?

Mark me down for a "no" on this one. (And if they don't soon come out with something to update what I have now... it might be a "no" to my monthly account as it is.)

Who was the genius at Tivo that decided to alienate a huge amount of people and perhaps lose a lot of business in the future? (And these people get paid to make choices like this? It boggles the mind.)

best place to buy tivo roamio?

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 11:03
Looking for the best place to buy the new Tivo Roamio - Pro version

a) Tivo.com
b) Weaknees.com
c) Amazon.com

d) other suggestions?

Should I get extended warranty? I will be purchasing lifetime and plan to keep it for life...

Thanks.
Anthony

Selling my TiVo Premiere... couple questions re: subscription

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 11:03
Hi There,

So I just ordered a new TiVo Roamio w/ a lifetime subscription. I have a couple questions about my TiVo Premiere that I'm going to be selling. When I first purchased it, I got it used for cheap, and then I found that I had to get a contract with a $19.99 subscription. That contract has lapsed a long time ago. Does this still require a $19.99 subscription from whoever buys it from me? Would their price be determined by whether or not they are eligible for a MSD? I seem to remember some TiVos (mine included, i think) not being eligigble for MSD. I'm glad to leave the montly TiVo fees behind w/ my new lifetime service unit, but I just want to make sure I don't mis-market it on eBay. Thanks!

Self-install if I have a multistream CC already?

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 10:48
I currently have an Tivo HD, S3, with a multistream cablecard from Comcast. If I buy the new Roamio (terrible name!) will I be able to just put that card in the Roamio and activate without having a tech come out to the house? I've tried calling TiVo to ask but they must be quite busy. :)

Tivo Mini Setup using "Router" option

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 10:26
The Tivo Mini product (https://tivo.com/shop/mini) page makes it sound like that if your primary Tivo is hooked up directly to your router then you don't need to provide the Mini any network connectivity at all (as displayed in the second option - titled If your TiVo DVR is connected to your router).

It says "You’re all set! Just connect your TiVo Mini to your other TV and enjoy."...Does this work/how? All other documents imply the Mini needs ethernet or MoCa (which would make sense).

Thanks,
Mark

New cast member for Community next season

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 10:24
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...oins-community

First the don Gus Fring dropped into Community — now his man Mike Ehrmantraut is giving Greendale a try. As EW reports, Breaking Bad’s Jonathan Banks will show up in 11 episodes of Community’s fifth season as "Pat Nichols, an intense criminology professor with a mysterious background in military and police work. … [Banks] makes his first appearance in the second episode of the season when Annie (Alison Brie) enrolls in his class." Theory: Slowly but surely, Dan Harmon is recruiting every notable Breaking Bad cast member — Walt, Jesse, Gomey, Badger, the dude with the eyebrows at the car wash — to his show, so that by the end of Community’s sixth season (and/or its movie), he'll be able to reveal his grand, subtly rolled out homage to the greatest meth drama of our generation. Things are gonna get pretty meta.

FS: Series 3 OLED THX upgraded 500 gb

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 10:00
Upgrading to a Roamio so I'm selling my S3. The hardrive has been upgraded to 500gb, 70 hours. Comes with remote and wireless adapter.

test

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 10:00
test

Does the mini use the same type of RF remote that the roamio uses?

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 09:48
Would be nice to have that functionality in the mini so you can hide the box behind the TV or in a closet.

Tivo Web API

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 09:15
Looks like the Tivo Web API will soon be a reality (http://developer.tivo.com/docs/read/Home). Hopefully this will allow for easy HTML5 app development.

I paid $693 out the door for a Tivo XL4 and lifetime service, what Roamio...

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 09:03
In May I paid $693 out the door for a Tivo XL4 and lifetime service, what Roamio features are really worth all the extra cash (and it seems like it's a pretty big diff in price)

I don't really see that many software differences, are there? Speed is not a big deal to me, sure my Tivo isn't a blazer but it doesn't bother me and I don't need tivo2go...

and lastly, any chance we can expect to see the interface update on Premiere series?

thx!

Question about selling Premiere4/Stream

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 08:47
So I've ordered a Roamio Plus and am looking to sell my Premiere 4 with 2TB drive (original drive included) and Stream.

Just curious what would be a good price to expect and should i sell them on eBay as a bundle or separately?

Thanks!

It's What Roamio Has Inside that Counts

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 07:50
Perhaps we can post tear-down pics here...?

WOOT.COM have Tivo Premier bundles on special.

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 07:12
TiVo TCD758250 Premiere XL4 DVR & TiVo Stream Bundle
$249.99 Woot.com

TiVo TCD750500 Premiere 4 DVR & TiVo Stream Bundle
$149.99 Woot.com

Both come with stream. WOW.

Streaming from PC to Mini options?

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 06:08
I see in this thread that there is some support from Flingo but the file types are limited and lack FF/REW. Are there any other options? I've used Stream, Baby, Stream for years but that doesn't work (shows up, navigates to show, hit Play and error comes up).

Lack of streaming from PC is the main hinderance I have from replacing my Elite with another Mini.

New TiVo End User Agreement

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 05:46
TiVo has produced an updated End User Agreement. It clarifies a number of issues and terms of use. Additionally, if you agree to its terms you agree to binding arbitration in any dispute, waive your right to any type civil jury trial and waive your right to participate in any class action suit against TiVo. You can opt out of the "Dispute Resolution" Section in writing to TiVo within 30 days, I presume from 20 August 2013, if you are a current TiVo subscriber, or 30 days from your initial device activation.

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User Agreement "(Excerpt)"

Effective as of August 20, 2013

This user agreement governs your purchase and use of products and services offered by TiVo Inc. (including TiVo DVRs, mobile apps, and websites). By clicking on an “I agree” or similar button you acknowledge that you have read, understood, and agreed to this agreement, including the parts about arbitrating any disputes, waiving any right to a jury trial and giving up the right to bring or participate in a class action.

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So what's my strategic move?

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 01:41
I have 4 XL4's: 2 bought October 2012, 1 in January 2013, and one July 2013 that can be returned up until August 31st to Amazon.

I have 2 streams I bought in January 2013.

Basically, 2 XL4's and a Stream are in each of two different apartments.

None have Lifetime. All have extended warranties. One Stream is still in the box it came in, the other is in service.

I also have 2 HD's disconnected in the corner. One has a bad mobo and no drive, the other is good. They both have lifetime but are out of extended warranty (they are 2010's).

Let's say I wanted to have 4 Roamio Pro's. I could sell 3 of XL4's on eBay, return 1 to Amazon, sell both Stream's on eBay, get rid of the two HD's (the good and the bad one's).

What are the moves? Can I do some kind of move of the old HD Lifetime's to the XL4's.

Option 1: Now: Return the newest XL4, sell the Streams on eBay, buy 1 Roamio Pro, 2: Later: then wait for improved pricing on the Roamio Pro after Thanksgiving maybe to buy 3 more Roamio Pro's and sell 3 XL4's on eBay.

Option 2: ???

Mini Upgrade to Match Roamio UI

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 00:57
Does anyone know if the UI on the Mini will be upgraded to look like the Roamio?

I would like the look of everything to be consistent throughout the house (will have a total of 4 Minis).

Will a Roamio Plus and a Mini with a dedicated tuner

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 00:15
Will I be able to tape 6 things at once or will I be "limited" to 5 with a tuner permanently set aside for the Mini? That's the only thing I need to find out before I order....Thanks in advance

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