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WTH? TiVo Stream is cool, but no Airplay or HDMI supported?!?!?!

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dmk1974, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    It's what you need to do to get something that works reliably over a WAN... you sort of start all over again by decompressing and recompressing.

    It might have enough throughput, but it's probably not consistent enough... this is where the Slingbox really comes into handy. If you have a Premiere that can be "stolen" for Slingbox when you want to Sling, it works that way too.

    In reality, yes, it is a lot easier to torrent the shows if you want to watch them on any computer, even in your house.
     
  2. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    The expressed disappointment is that the Mini can't do what the Slingbox (and by extension, Dish's Hopper) can do. Once again, TiVo takes too long and delivers a disappointment, that's all.

    Nah, in my house I'd use an iPad (as I have a TiVo Stream) or if I wanted to watch them on my Mac, I'd use iTiVo and VLC, that combo plays the native file as it downloads, and works quite well.

    More realistically, considering I'm in my own house, I'd just be watching on a real TV :D
     
  3. Bigg

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    Yeah. I'd go for the real TV if I'm actually watching it. Sometimes I use torrented shows if I'm folding laundry or something...
     
  4. mr_smits

    mr_smits New Member

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    Agreed. The Stream is like 1/2 as useful as a Slingbox. Dish is leading the pack here.
     
  5. BrooklynBlueEyes

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    Very interesting thread! Thanks for pointing out all of the gotcha's with the TiVo Stream. I thought I was sold, but now I'm not so sure.
     
  6. igirl

    igirl Tivo and EyeTV User

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    WOW! I came to the forum thinking I would be able to connect my iPad2 physically with a Dock to HDMI Adapter since the Stream is being blocked over AirPlay, and wanted to check on that - NOT.

    I'll assume then, even the Dock to VGA won't work either - anyone tried it?

    My alternate solution - a Mini - just got eliminated - I had no idea they were going to try to extort subscription fees for such a simple add on box to my P4. NO SALE

    Time to go hack the iPad - or go buy a second one cheap, and hack it just for this purpose.

    If EyeTV had a CableCard tuner for OSX I would go that route - but they are being cut off by a political blockade from CableLabs.

    I have a WDTV Live as well and could just auto-convert/export Tivo recordings to the network for that - but it's the live TV with cablecard tuner that I was hoping for. :-( I wanted to use this in a room that doesn't have cable or LAN - and occasionally on an outdoor patio TV.
     
  7. dsnotgood

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    You can get the mini with lifetime service for $250 total. A LOT more cheaper than getting an ipad and a Apple TV. Don't know what your objection is to that since your other options are more expensive and a lot more work.
     
  8. igirl

    igirl Tivo and EyeTV User

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    I already own an iPad and believe the hack is free - but if I wanted a second one, they start at $179 on Cowboom. And a knock-off dock to HDMI cable online is not a lot. If I didn't want to buy a second Apple TV and use AirPlay - since I also already own one of those as well - refurbs are $85 through the Apple store.

    It's a choice between a fully redundant iPad+ Apple TV purchase ~ $265 - and the vast amount of extra functionality that would provide -
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    A $250 Tivo Mini that can't do anything other than Tivo Mini.

    Personally I would go for the extra goodies - if I didn't already own both.
     
  9. mattack

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    The Tivo *STREAM*, which this thread is for, has no subscription fees.
     
  10. igirl

    igirl Tivo and EyeTV User

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    Actually - the thread title says - "Stream is cool, but no Airplay or HDMI supported"

    These limitations of the Stream (which this thread is for), call for alternate solutions to be discussed.

    The Mini (and it's cost) was just one of many possible alternatives put forth in this thread.

    Jailbreaking and mirroring directly via a physical cable, seems the shortest and least expensive work around... and yes, no subscription fees.
     
  11. siratfus

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    Does this work with the new Ipad Air?
     
  12. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    The jailbreak for iOS 7 (which the iPad Air ships with) just came out this morning.

    And the tweaks (xCon and UnrestrictPremium) required for this probably need to be updated now, for iOS 7.

    I doubt anyone's tested this yet on an iPad Air. So ask again a week or two...
     
  13. siratfus

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    Any updates on the hack for Ipad Air?
     
  14. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    In the jail break thread someone posted saying the newest beta of xCon works with the TiVo app now.
     
  15. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    Dan, did a search but can't seem to find it. Can you provide link to thread?
     
  16. Fofer

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    I'm interested in purchasing a Tivo because my FIOS dvr box with a hard drive exension is extremely slow to respond and has issues where you delete recordings and they still appear in the list (among some other issues as well).

    One thing I do now with a slingbox is that I use my ipad at my vacation condo to access my dvr at home and then use airplay with my apple tv so I can watch those recordings (or live tv) on my tv at the condo.

    I was hoping I could just get a Tivo and do the same, but since airplay doesn't work, it sounds like that's not possible.

    So now my thought is that I'll still need to use the Slingbox with a tivo to watch on my tv. Could I use the Tivo app on another device to control my tv at home? That is, would the tivo app work outside of my home network to display a show? That way, the interface would be better in that I could access the menus on my device and then just play the video which the Slingbox will show, but I'd need to make sure the Tivo app would control my tv at home when it is not on the same network. Using only the slingbox, I need to view all the menus on screen which takes time to respond.

    Or if anyone has another suggestion on how to watch tivo on a remote tv that's better, I'd be welcome to hear it.

    Thanks.
     
  18. Dan203

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    No. When the TiVo app is in away from home mode the "Watch on TV" option is grayed out, as it the remote control.

    What kind of speeds do you have at the condo? Some people have been able to create a VPN link between two places and then use a Mini in the second location to watch their TiVos. But the Mini is streaming the original recording at full resolution so you'd need like 15MBps for that to work.
     
  19. jimmypowder

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    Why no airplay? Tivo is just a plain timid company from my observations over the years.

    I think before they add a feature that enters a grey air of legality ,their lawyers must write up a 1,000 page synopsis on areas they could get sued.
     
  20. Fofer

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    ^ agreed

    The whole "you can't even STREAM shows outside of your home network if they have the COPY ONCE flag set" is another telltale sign of that timidity. And it sucks.
     

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