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WTH? TiVo Stream is cool, but no Airplay or HDMI supported?!?!?!

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dmk1974, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    They have some weird thing where they don't like to offer alternative ways to view stuff on an actual TV. They seem to be OK with portable devices and PCs though. This is the same reason why some of the stuff available via Hulu.com is not available via Hulu+, even though Hulu.com is free and Hulu+ is $10/mo. :rolleyes:

    It's a stupid arcane system that will eventually die off someday.
     
  2. Gaidin43

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    I understand and agree with the media providers (cable company's, production studios, etc) need and should be paid for their product, but limiting how it is consumed is crazy. Big companies care more about subsides from as revenue and controlling how people view their products then direct payments from consumers buying the product. This needs to change from the old school mindset of "this needs to be done only my way" to "let them do it however they want as long as we are paid for it". If they follow this method piracy would go down ( I doubt it will ever completely go away) but they also need to set reasonable prices $5.99 for a digital rental is nuts when you can buy it for $14.99 digitally, or better yet $7.99 when the actual disc goes on sale at Wally World

    The entire system needs to look at its future and adapt and change or home media systems like HTPCs are going to completely hammer their profit margins more then they already are.
     
  3. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    I feel like I need to make either a "Hitler reacts to TiVo Stream not supporting HDMI/AirPlay/Remote streaming" video, or a "Hitler reacts to TiVo Mini having a subscription fee and only working on 4-tuner Premieres" video. :D
     
  4. Bigg

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    That makes no sense. I mean what's the technical difference between a 23" 1080p HDCP enabled display and a 60" 1080p HDCP enabled display?
     
  5. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    It's also why Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion's AirPlay Mirroring to an AppleTV is a silver bullet. Anything I can stream on my laptop I can wirelessly send to my bigscreen TV, with perfect A/V sync. Take that, Hulu!
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I don't know, you'd have to ask them. I think it's more about the number of users though, then the screen size. With it only working on a PC they can keep the number of users low and it will not interrupt their primary business model. However if they make it more accessible then the number of users accessing it via the web, rather then the traditional way, would upset the balance and it could effect the prices that they can charge for traditional advertising.

    At this point the broadcast industry is struggling to hold on to a dying business model while keeping the internet side alive just in case the traditional model collapses.
     
  7. Bigg

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    Yeah, they are experimenting in all sorts of things, but they seem to manage to mess them up at every step, and all the different digital platforms out there are a mess. That, and certain shows, like Big Bang theory, of all shows, aren't available anywhere online, except for the last few episodes from their own website. It's very backwards that they are limiting to the PC platform, as apparently they think that no one will ever get an HDMI cable and plug their PC into the TV.
     
  8. Fofer

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    ...our use wireless AirPlay fullscreen mirroring, which I love so so so so much, for finally making that ridiculousness a non-issue!!!
     
  9. dianebrat

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    Except that's exactly the logic, we'll let you view on a portable device, but not something that outputs to a TV, and that makes perfect sense to me when I put myself in "broadcast weasel mode" they are terrified of portable devices that can output to a big screen and yes, they're not smart enough to realize that a PC can do it.

    It's one of the reasons so many won't let you output via an idevice.
     
  10. Bigg

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    lol
     
  11. drkside

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    Apple TV is tough to beat
     
  12. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    I agree. I love my little Apple TV as well. If that damn TiVo Stream would only support AirPlay (from my iOS devices OR my MacBook) it would be worth so much more.
     
  13. Austin Bike

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    I was an apple tv advocate but I have to say that Roku is looking much better (have not made the jump). If apple would let me run iOS apps on the apple tv, I would put one on every TV in the house.
     
  14. Fofer

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    It would make no sense for the TiVo Stream to be an AirPlay receiver. It's not even hooked up to a TV. Do you mean TiVo Mini? :confused:
     
  15. Bigg

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    No. Stream >>> iPad >>> Airplay to Apple TV.
     
  16. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    Ah. I use a jailbreak tweak called UnrestrictPremium that lets me AirPlay the Stream from my iPad to my AppleTV.

    Considering that the TiVo Mini doesn't stream to a MacBook at all, the notion of AirPlaying from that... seemed to come out of left field.
     
  17. Austin Bike

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    What I want is> tivo> stream> apple TV

    With stream I can watch content on my tivo on an ipad, I'd just like to do that without an ipad in the middle.
     
  18. Fofer

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    As mentioned, I can already do that.

    Now I want to be able to stream to my iPad when I'm not at home, but on someone else's WiFi. My home's upstream is fast enough.
     
  19. Bigg

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    That's a whole different ballgame, as you have to get into dynamic bitrates like a Slingbox. Sling has the best technology for that, just get one of those with a Mini.
     
  20. Fofer

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    Uh yeah, not, no way I'm going to spend all that -- especially given the Mini's subscription fee, and the fact that it won't work (yet?!?!?) on a 2-tuner TiVo. It also strikes me as an extraordinarily inelegant solution.

    My upstream and downstream will typically be fast enough to handle direct streaming from the TiVo Stream. Barring that, I'll just figure out another way to "acquire" the few shows I'm interested in watching. :cool:
     

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