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Without subscription, can tivo function as non DVR box?

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by siratfus, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    Without subscription, can tivo function as non DVR box?

    My parents are using a STB for $10 a month by verizon. They never use the features of the guide. And I mean NEVER. They have a few channels that they watch and that's it. They don't ever "surf." They don't ever press guide, so program day and time is not important. Since tivo boxes can be had for so cheap now, below $100. I figure I can get them one without subscribing to the dvr service since they won't use it.

    Is that possible? Once again, they don't care about proper guide info. They just turn on the tv, same channel, same time every day like it was the 70's. LOL!
     
  2. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    Also without subscription, will I have problems setting up my fios cable card? Would I need to set up the M card with one of my subscribed tivos, then once set-up, remove the card and plug it into my nonsubscription tivo. Something like that?
     
  3. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Yes, you can use a Tivo as you describe. It will be like a plain cable box with no guide info.

    The cable card can be set up in the non subscribed Tivo. Normally, the cable card is paired with the Tivo that it goes in, so in swapping it to another Tivo, you would have to set it up all over again.
     
  4. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Without a Tivo subscription, it would not even record, only watch Live TV. It would not even be considered a DVR. It would be cheaper to just get a cable box instead.
     
  5. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    They are paying $10/mo and a Tivo can be acquired for less than $100 (=< 10 months of current set up) and a CC will likely cost only a couple of dollars per month. How exactly is that more costly than a cable box?

    and the title of the thread is
    Without subscription, can tivo function as non DVR box?
    So I would believe that your first statement is something that the OP is aware of or is at least not in the least bit interested in having dvr functions.
     
  6. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    Thank you! Glad to know I can do this.
     
  7. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    We already have 2 tivo hds with lifetime and we love them! But for my parents, all they need is a cable box, and they don't even press the guide info. They have one or two channels and they just turn on the tv every day at the same time when that show is on. They do nothing else.

    If you mean get a cable box from ebay or something, I don't want to take that chance. Verizon is pretty strict about that. A premiere is less than $100! I should have thought of this earlier since we've already spent $300 these past 30 months by paying Verizon $10 every month! A non-subscribe tivo would have paid for itself already! Why didn't I think of this sooner!

    For those with parents like me, read this thread!
     
  8. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    You can only get a cable box from the cable co.
     
  9. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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  10. bud8man

    bud8man Tivo Evangelist

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    If they only want two channels you can't get them over the air? Or on a cheap cable package that would not require a box?
    Just tossing out ideas.

    Cablevision has like a $12.95 a month plan. It's basically CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, PBS and maybe channel 12 news for those who can't get anything over the air. I used that plan for months when my kids mostly watched PBS and I mostly watched CBS.
     
  11. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    While you can buy a cable box online or elsewhere, you would be hard pressed to get a provider to activate such a box, since it is not a box from their stock, and they don't sell them for subscribers to own
     
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    How do you keep the TiVo from getting stuck in guided setup? It's one thing to drop the subscription on an already functioning TiVo and keep using it as a digital tuner. It is quite another to initially set it up w/o a subscription.
     
  13. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Another thing: Verizon is actually charging them extra for the first STB on top of whatever they are paying for the package?
     
  14. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Subscription status is, and has always been, completely irrelevant to running guided setup.
     
  15. Adam1115

    Adam1115 20,000!!! TCF Club

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    Why would a provider refuse to activate a cablecard STB? :confused:
     
  16. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Are you absolutely certain that is still the case, particularly with a Premiere? Even if it is the case, it would still have to be hooked it up to a phone line or internet long enough to complete guided setup.

    Of course, he shouldn't buy a Premiere at all. A TiVo 3 (either the original OLED or the THD is what they need. As long as it has a digital tuner.

    Are the channels they watch in a package above the basic package?
     
  17. lrhorer

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    1. Because it is presumably stolen. No manufacturer sells their digital STBs or DVRs to consumers.

    2. Because it is incompatible with the local CATV system. The digital protocols are proprietary. Unless the STB or DVR is of the same hardware type (Cisco or Motorola) as the headend, it won't work, period. A Cisco box won't work with a Motorola headend, and vice-versa. Even if the hardware type is compatible, the software is probably not. Each MSO has custom software running.

    It's possible the STB or DVR may be able to function as a UDCP, in which case it might be possible for the box to receive linear channels, but I do not know this for a fact. The device may require 2-way communications in order to authorize. They are designed as 2-way hosts from the ground up, so the latter is not unlikely. I know for a fact it was the case for some early STBs, but this may no longer be true.
     
  18. Stuxnet

    Stuxnet Alien Infidel

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    Would it continue its 15 minute buffer so you could pause viewing to grab a beer?
     
  19. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    30 minutes actually.
     

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