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Will there ever be a better OTA Roamio?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by dcline414, Jul 9, 2014.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    But TiVo has been the most cost effective solution when I compare prices to Comcast and FiOS in my area. If I had used Comcast or FIOS DVRs over the last seven years, my costs would have been much higher, than what it cost me with my TiVos during that time. And I still get the benefits of the TiVo. Like being able to offload the shows to a PC on my network.
     
  2. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    I'm guessing that you are someone who purchases insurance on your hardware (best buy/frys/ect)? Or, perhaps the perfect owner for a car salesman to switch from sticker price to monthly cost? Or, maybe you are in the leasing game?

    Tivos are relatively simple to fix, especially the roamio. You are free to spend your money how you wish, but you are spending more than you need to.
     
  3. gonefishin

    gonefishin New Member

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    I just received my Tivo Romio...and really, as an OTA DVR...I couldn't be happier!

    Let me explain why. We cut the cord back in 2008. Tivo was a large part why this was possible because they offered a dual tuner, HD, guided DVR for OTA. I saved a ton of money over the years. Even after my initial harddrive failed and had to replace it...I was still easily money ahead.

    Then we moved about 65 miles from our Chicago towers. My Pioneer Kuro tuners received most of the channels without breaking up. Some channels, like 2 and 11 were problems. 11 would come in and out...2 was totally absent. Then hooking up my Tivo HD, we received NO channels at all!

    Then my dad brought over his Romio, it received every major network and channel 2 with the existing antenna. I received my Tivo Romio the other day and also receive all the major networks quite solid. 2 will break up at times...but actually not that often. None of the channels have a ton of signal strength, but they're all fairly solid in viewing.

    I've got my Chromecast for streaming Netflix, etc. The picture quality, of Netflix, on the Chromecast is better than on either the Tivo HD or Romio...although the Romio streams Netflix much better than the HD. But looking at the core of what an OTA DVR should do...OTA is, and should be, at the forefront. Really, anything else is just lipstick on a pig...cause if you have crap OTA tuners...you're box is useless for it's main purpose.

    Tivo Romio...so far...couldn't be happier

    Dan
     
  4. Silverman

    Silverman New Member

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    So this guy thinks the cable folks will keep him in the latest equipment, huh? I just helped a renter pick up the Comcast DVR to add to the renters system. This is right now, July, 2014. The Motorola box says it can store UP TO 7 hours of HD programming!! I thought it must be a mis-print. The first 1999 Tivos were even 16 hours of the TV we had then........so don't anyone think cable co stuff is up to date, and this is no little company either, it's Xfinity Nashville.
     
  5. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

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    lol. You can't get around the simple math with hyperbole. The cost of the lease is always based on making a profit off the cost of ownership.

    Your cable DVR isn't free. You're paying $20/month for it.

    Your cable company isn't switching you into a new DVR every year. DVRs don't evolve that fast for one thing. And your cable company is going to resist equipment changes for another.

    Your DVR doesn't get sluggish over time. Nothing changes.

    It also doesn't become less reliable either. (yes we can split hairs here.)

    It isn't about liking or not liking the cable company in terms of whether it pays to own your own dvr. The math is the same.
     
  6. Silverman

    Silverman New Member

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    Yeah, where does he get free DVR from? Some really high packages might include a DVR, but you sure are paying for it. Believe it or not Comcast charges 17 a month for the 7 hour HD DVR wonder I mentioned above, with it 5 a month for first year. Makes Tivo look so much better, like wow....
     
  7. PedjaR

    PedjaR Member

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    Even if it does, at that point you lose the recordings you have not watched yet. This would likely be a noticeable concern for people having 3TB hard drives; of course, if your DVR stores all of 7 hrs ... ;)
     
  8. terpfan1980

    terpfan1980 It's Just TV TCF Club

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    If your inbox wasn't full, you'd have a PM from me :) :up:
     
  9. cosmicvoid

    cosmicvoid Tivo noob

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    Not really. I have a WMC HTPC with 2 SiliconDust boxes (4 tuners total), and in my locale the reception on some channels is marginal (multipath). Switching to the Roamio basic cured that completely. Tivo's tuners are far superior to SiliconDust for sensitivity and multipath problems.
     
  10. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Yeah but it would be nice to have for the plus and pro models since they lack ATSC tuners all together.

    Are you talking about the newer Plus version of the SD HDHomerun or the old one?
     
  11. tallmomof2

    tallmomof2 New Member

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    I switched recently to Tivo to actually save money. If I wanted to switch from the ancient Motorola STBs to the newer Cisco ones it would've meant $60 a month. The old Motorola boxes were $45 a month. My cable card costs me $6 to rent. Not including resale value of my Roamio Pro and 2 minis all with lifetime, I will break even in less than two years.

    The family acceptance factor with Tivo is sky high. They prefer it many times over to the Fios UI. What's really amazing is the picture quality with the Roamio. I didn't realize how old and decrepit the Motorola boxes had become.

    Unless I didn't have any other choice I would never go back to satellite. Too many weather outages, picture quality not as good as cable, and the CS. I might be able to live with OTA and streaming but there are no good (and legal) options for sports. Too many serious sports fans in the house not to have cable.

    Goos luck with whatever you decide but in my experience the Roamio is far ahead of what any cable company or satellite provider can provide.
     
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Which of these 6 are "most" people missing?:

    ABC
    CBS
    CW
    FOX
    NBC
    PBS
     
  13. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    In order to enable even a base Roamio to handle OTA and cable simultaneously, it would need an additional input.
     
  14. Diana Collins

    Diana Collins Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    It has USB ports. That's how DirecTV adds OTA to their satellite-only DVRS. The ATSC tuner box (the AM21, which has 2 ATSC tuners) plugs into one of the USB ports, and has its own coaxial port and power supply.
     
  15. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    Viewing habits differ. I can receive all of those plus an extra PBS system, but I don't usually record or even watch anything from some of them. Most of my recording is done from PBS, NBC and CBS, so if single-tuner overlap still worked my 4-tuner Roamio wouldn't even have to retune most of the time. Of course most people watch a lot more commercial entertainment than I do.
     
  16. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    The other issue is that a lot of folks are talking about a family solution, and not just a single person solution. You get 4 folks with their own idea of shows to watch, and you get both conflicts in recordings and conflicts for watching live-tv.
     
  17. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    I was addressing the claim that "most people" can't even receive that many channels.

    I assume we are limiting this to the U.S. since doing otherwise in this context would be ridiculous. 83% of the U.S. population live in urban areas so, unless there are actual data to support it, I would say that the claim is absurd.

    Plus it doesn't take 4 simultaneous shows to use up 4-tuners if you have your recordings padded.
     
  18. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    The possibility of an add-on tuner is a different issue and is already being discussed in another thread.

    The point I was trying to make is that it requires more than just adding an internal OTA tuner to the Plus & Pro and that the lack of a second input on the base model is one reason why the Roamio doesn't support simultaneous OTA and cable.
     
  19. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

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    TAke your pick. I bet most can't get all those with one antenna position.

    Anyway you are missing the point. Where is the great need in the market for a 6 tuner OTA dvr with so few OTA channels? I'm not seeing it.
     
  20. abovethesink

    abovethesink Member

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    I can only get PBS, but I am rural. I can't even get the CW as part of a cable package still.
     

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