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Wife won't delete recordings

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timckelley, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. Dec 16, 2003 #141 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Well, actually I really never saw the need for her saving shows for him - certainly not in the quantity she's done. Because by the time he's old enough to appreciate them, I'm sure there'll be other shows on he can watch. Anyway, currently the shows she's TiVoing aren't for him, they're for herself. This collecting of shows seems to be a compulsive hobby of hers, and she's already come right out and proclaimed that she's addicted to TiVo. Oh well, there are lots of more expensive hobbies than collecting shows. :)
     
  2. Dec 16, 2003 #142 of 1216
    TivoFan

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    That's the best laugh I've had all day.
    I'm guessing you're not married.

    Taking the above into account, I'm going to make some stupid suggestions.

    You're wife is a packrat. The fact is that there is more tv out there than she can ever watch. She's got to face up to that. Once you do though, you'll find that instead of 1000 hours of good tv, you can narrow it down to 20 hours of excellent tv.

    Seriously, if you have all those tapes of old movies, I suspect that she is not watching them. They replay those old movies all the time. Why not suggest that she wait to record any more of them until she runs low on some of the ones that she has taped? She can always record them next month or the month after. If she is serious about watching them, then this will work. If, as I suspect, she isn't then she'll end up not watching the tapes and you won't have to worry about her recording any more of em. And it would force her to a core realization.... there's no point recording a show you never get around to watching. (P.S. is she planning a month long sabbatical in the near future when she will have a lot more time to watch tv than she does now? If she can't watch everything she has now, it's doubtful she'll ever have more time in the future.)

    The other option is to get her to agree to some form of a budget. Figure out how many hours you guys have available on your Tivo and divide it between the two of you. If she goes over that number of hours, then she needs to delete some shows. If she can't agree to this, then she's got to admit that she's not being fair to you.
     
  3. Dec 17, 2003 #143 of 1216
    Dadorama

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    Murrells...
    Listen, after reading through this WHOLE thread, I feel like we need to see a picture of you folks, or have your address to send you a Christmas Card or SOMETHING.

    I feel like myself, and everyone around me has been cleansed through a form of group therapy.

    I feel strangely like going out and buying another Tivo....

    Merry Christmas everyone. And lets none of us take ourselves or our lives too awful serious! When problems like this are our most pressing, we are indeed truly blessed.

    Agreed?

    Dadorama:D
     
  4. Dec 17, 2003 #144 of 1216
    JustAllie

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    After reading the whole thread, I'm thinking your wife should buy you a new TiVo.

    Of course that's not going to happen, so save up and buy one for yourself. Put a big sign on it saying "Tim's TiVo - do not touch!" Make sure you don't record anything on her TiVo -- that would only give her ammunition to claim space on your TiVo.

    If you record anything on your TiVo that you both like to watch, fine -- but if you've watched it and she hasn't, you have every right to delete it with no notice. After all, it's on YOUR TiVo.

    I used to be a VHS packrat like your wife, but there's little harm in letting her horde VHS tapes. Unless of course they pile up too much and become a health hazard. ;)

    After I owned a TiVo (actually two TiVos) for a while, I realized that my VHS collection was taking up a lot of space and wasn't getting watched anymore, so I gave the tapes away. I feel so free now. :D
     
  5. Dec 17, 2003 #145 of 1216
    timckelley

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    The funny thing is, that not only does she periodically buy new blank tapes, but once in awhile, I come home to find she's bought a new bookshelf for me to put together. After all, something has to hold these tapes. :)
     
  6. Dec 18, 2003 #146 of 1216
    JustAllie

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    I used to have two bookcases totally devoted to videotapes, plus about 8 boxes stacked up in a corner (photocopy paper boxes, to give you an idea of size). To be honest, I still have one bookcase with the videotapes I couldn't quite part with. The boxes, however, are gone -- given away, sold, donated to charity auctions, and a few were even destroyed by water in a hurricane.

    Moving three times in two years cured me of the desire to haul around so many videotapes. That and the joy of TiVo -- especially after I upgraded both of my TiVos to ~130 hours each.

    You should move to a new home every six months. This will eventually break your wife of her packrat habits. ;)
     
  7. Dec 22, 2003 #147 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Well, despite what I've said earlier in the thread, for the last few months (during which my wife had her Now Playing under control), I've been considering saving money by upgrading instead of getting a second TiVo. But things have changed since then.

    1. Last week, I went to look at my weekly episode of Good Morning Miami. It wasn't there! :( I checked recording history, and it was 'deleted: not recorded due a SP conflict. A higher priority show recorded instead'. So I checked - how could this be? Good Morning Miami has a rather high priority. It turns out that Scooby Doo Christmas special recorded in it's place. My wife must have scheduled it, and when it asked 'Okay to *not* record Good Morning Miami?', she said yes, knowing full well it was one of our important SPs. So I confronted her, and she admitted doing the deed and knowing what she was doing when she did it. She had decided that she wanted that Xmas special :( :(

    Upgrading the TiVo won't fix this problem. Buying a second TiVo will.

    2. Sometimes I have trouble scheduling a recording, because her To Do List is so prodigious, and takes up a lot of the 24-clock (sometimes). One time I wanted to record a movie, and luckily there were 6 scheduled showings coming up. 1-5 all had conflicts with her To Do List! Luckily, the 6th showing was free, so I snagged it. But there are other times when a movie doesn't repeat so often, which puts me SOL.

    Again, upgrading the TiVo won't fix this problem. Buying a second TiVo will.

    3. As a fringe benefit of two TiVos, we can each customize our thumbs ratings to reflect ourselves. Having my own TiVo will give me better suggestions.

    Conclusion: we need a second TiVo. Have any of you made this wise recommendation to me as a way to solve my problems? :) I just need to wait until Xmas expenses die down before buying one. I'm considering buying a series one, and starting out with no service, just to get started, and I can at least move some of my SPs to it as manual recordings. Then hopefully, I'll eventually add service to it.
     
  8. Dec 22, 2003 #148 of 1216
    Mekong

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    This is a very long post, so maybe I missed it, but it seems no one is addressing home media option. I don't have a series 2, but can't he dump some of that stuff to his computer with home media option??
     
  9. Dec 22, 2003 #149 of 1216
    JYoung

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    Better get it before January 14, otherwise your wife may delete Enterprise from the To Do list....

    (On the other hand, she may be doing you a favor...... ;) )
     
  10. Dec 22, 2003 #150 of 1216
    timckelley

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    No, I don't think home media option has been addressed in this post. Are you saying with home media option, I could do some sort of mass/batch archive of my Now Playing to a computer hard disk? But then how could I later get it from hard drive to VCR?
     
  11. Dec 22, 2003 #151 of 1216
    DevdogAZ

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    No, you can't move shows to a PC hard drive with HMO. However, if you did get a second TiVo Series 2 and had HMO, you could move shows between the two units for viewing in another room, etc. From reading this thread, I think timckelley would benefit greatly from a DVD recorder. Your wife could start archiving some of those shows to a format that takes up less storage space and will presumably last longer. However, unless is it a TiVo with built-in DVD-R, it won't solve your scheduling conflicts. For the time being, you can get a relatively inexpensive used Series 1 and use it unsubbed like you mentioned. That's probably the cheapest solution for now.
     
  12. Dec 22, 2003 #152 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Yes, several times I've talked to my wife about switching to DVD instead of VHS. She doesn't seem to think it's that important because she's happy with VHS. (I say, the quality of the picture is pretty subpar on those tapes.) But she really likes the batch-save-to-DVD feature of the Pioneer. But on the other hand, it seems like I read about some sort of editing disadvantages of Pioneer vs standalone burner. Plus, there's the price tag. Isn't it cheaper to buy an old series one and a standalone burner than to buy the combined deal with Pioneer? Also, by buying a la carta, if one component breaks, I just need to fix/replace that component. If Pioneer breaks, I'm in big trouble.
     
  13. Dec 22, 2003 #153 of 1216
    DevdogAZ

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    You just have to decide what is important to you regarding recording and editing on DVD. There are pros and cons to both the PioneerTiVoBurner and a standalone DVD/R.

    Pioneer Pros:
    Batch save
    Record faster than real time and still use TiVo
    Direct digital transfer of data off hard drive
    DVD menus are just like a TiVo menu

    Pioneer Cons:
    Cost
    Disc must be finalized every time it is recorded to
    No editing capabilities

    Standalone Pros:
    Less expensive than Pioneer
    Limited editing capabilites
    Ability to buy burner that works with +/- media
    Burn to RW media in multiple sessions

    Standalone Cons:
    Extra digital to analog conversion
    Shows record in real time and tie up TiVo
    Menus on DVD vary by burner manufacturer
     
  14. Dec 23, 2003 #154 of 1216
    cptodd

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    That real time thing was what tipped it for me! The Pioneer is SOOOOOO much more convenient for this reason.
     
  15. Dec 23, 2003 #155 of 1216
    timckelley

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    RETRACTION!!! I just checked our TiVo this morning, and except for 1 hour and 30 minutes of suggestions, every bit of it is filled up with her KUID stuff. Fortunately the To Do list contains very little of my stuff, as things are mostly in reruns this week. Today's To Do list contains 1 hour of her stuff, but tommorrow's has 6 more hours of her stuff, so I can see she's still living on the edge. She continues to offload stuff daily, but is barely keeping ahead of the wavefront, like a surfer just in front of the breaking wave.

    There's actually a 3 hour movie on there that I recorded, but she changed that to KUID. I don't know if she did that to protect my movie or because she also wants to watch it. (She told me she intends to either watch the movie or offload to tape.)
     
  16. Dec 23, 2003 #156 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Can you explain to me the difference between +/- media and other media?
     
  17. Dec 23, 2003 #157 of 1216
    DevdogAZ

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    The Pioneer TiVo only works with - media, meaning DVD-R and DVD-RW. There are other DVD burners that only uses + media and there are still others that will burn to both types. There is a debate as to which is better and I don't have an opinion on that. I was simply stating that if you want a choice, you have to go with a standalone because the Pioneer will only do -.

    Back to your wife: If she is offloading stuff every day to try and keep ahead of the wave, you really need a new solution. There is no way she's ever going to have time to watch all this stuff and your house is going to be overrun by VHS tapes. The Pioneer burner will save her a ton of time in archiving because she can simply line up a number of shows to go to a DVD and hit record. A little while later it will be done. A standalone DVD recorder will not save any time over the VHS, the only difference is picture quality and storage space. But it sounds to me like you really need to do something soon, or she needs to shake her compulsive habits. I used to be the same way when Seinfeld was still on the air. I made it a goal to get every episode of Seinfeld on tape and I prettymuch did. But those tapes have been in a box in the garage for a few years now and I realistically can't see a time when I will ever pull them out and watch them. My guess is this will be the same iwth most of the stuff your wife has on tape. She'll be comforted to know she has it on tape, but to actually go dig it out when she wants to watch it will be a whole different story. My guess is that 90+% of the stuff she records will never be watched and someday you'll be throwing away a whole boatload of VHS tapes.
     
  18. Dec 23, 2003 #158 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Yes, I told my wife about the batch save feature of Pioneer. To my surprise, she told me it's not a high priority for her because once Xmas is over, she intends to cut way back on her TiVoing of shows. (I'll be interested to see if that actually happens.)

    She was also concerned about how much stuff can you put on one disk. Isn't it true that you can put more stuff on one VHS tape than you can put on one DVD disk?

    Of course, Pioneer also has the TiVO basic option, which might be an advantage (i.e. money saver) for us, if we can live with having full service on just one TiVo. I suppose I could put wishlists on the one that has full service, in order to prompt me to add recordings to the Pioneer. But somehow I suspect that one day, I'll want to add full service to the Pioneer, if that's what we get.
     
  19. Dec 23, 2003 #159 of 1216
    DevdogAZ

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    Depending on the recording quality you choose, the Pioneer can put up to 6? hours on a DVD, roughly the same as on a VHS tape. If you are happy with the PQ of a VHS tape at 6 hours, you'd probably be fine with the Pioneer at 6 hours too, but some have said that the higher resolution causes more artifacting to appear so that may be an issue.

    If you're going to end up with two TiVos and maybe only subscribe one of them, I would think you would for sure want the Pioneer to be subscribed since it will be the one you can archive from and therefore should be the one doing the lion's share of her recordings. Of course that would mean that your other unit would have to be a pre-1.3 Series 1.
     
  20. Dec 23, 2003 #160 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Good point. Darn. I've already got a lifetime sub on my current series 2 TiVo.
     

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