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Wife won't delete recordings

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timckelley, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    I finally got UBCD created and I've booted to it, and I see the UBCD menu right now on the computer that's got the questional TiVo drive mounted, but it's not obvious to me how to use this menu to test the drive. I'm still fiddling around with it though.
     
  2. timckelley

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    My problem with UBCD is that only two items on the main menu are selectable. I can't scroll the hard drive diagnostics to make it run. Only the first and last items on that menu work. :(
     
  3. timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    I hope I can get this posted, as my main computer has gotten flaky ever since I installed the UBCD software, but anyway, I forgot that my keyboard has this weird quirk that everytime I switch computers via my KVM switch, numlock goes on. I turned it off, and now I can navigate the whole UBCD menu. I ran the 5 minute quick test on the TiVo drive, and I got: "TEST COMPLETED WITH READ ELEMENT FAILURE. ERROR/STATUS CODE 7". It then invites me to run a full media scan to resolve the issue. I assume that I should infer from this that it's a bad drive.

    I have onhand a Samsung drive I can try to replace it with... I hope UBCD can also test Samsung; I'm about to search and see. The test I just ran was on a WD drive, and I used the built in WD diagnostic to test it.

    Edit: Yes, UBCD does have two different versions of Samsung drive diagnostics... I'm now googling to see which version goes with the particular model I have.
     
  4. timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    Welp, the Samsung passes with no errors, so I suppose I could now go about getting it imaged. I guess I'm off to research how to use MFS tools.

    Edit: Wait, after rereading unitron's post, he lays it out simply for me, by providing an image link and offers me access to an exe file to install it. Thank you; that's very helpful. The way you've spelled it out, it sounds like I'm getting close to the light at the end of the tunnel on this.
     
  5. timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    By the way, my wife has reiterated she doesn't need a bigger hard drive, but I'll concede that given her track records, I should not rule it getting something bigger than the puny 40GB Samsung I have onhand will be needed at some point.

    But right now, I want to see if I can get the TiVo working with parts I have onhand because

    a) What if something else is wrong besides the hard drive? I don't want to shell out for a new HD just to discover it's going to be a waste because the TiVo is not resurrectable.

    b) I hate to keep the Craigslist girl (I guess I say girl, because she's a fair amount younger than me) dangling on the status of the TiVo, as we haven't actually come to an agreement on how much I'm willing to pay her for the TiVo, and I need to know how reliable it is before I come up with a number. I suppose if I'm going to cut it down to 40 GB (or eventually shell out for another HD) I could justify lowering her $50 number, but I do feel like it's worth something because of that lifetime sub, so if I get it working, I'm definitely going to pay her a reasonable amount of money. Surprisingly, she emailed me her address, and said I can simply mail her a check. That does seem to go against Craigslist protocol; she's very trusting (that the check won't bounce).

    Well, I say trusting, but when I was in her condo (just a small condo from the looks of it), she had her front door open the whole time. :D Maybe she didn't trust me enough to be alone with her in her small condo with the door closed. I guess you can never be too careful with these Craigslist guys. :p
     
  6. timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    Process complete! :up: :cool: :up: :cool:

    At first it said something about a hardware malfunction, and that I must restart it, but it's probably because I had just put a new image on the HD. I had it connect to internet via ethernet to update account status, and it still said "no service" :eek: :eek: So I called customer service and they said no, it does have lifetime service.

    I restarted the DVR as it requested and now it does say "Lifetime". :cool: All I really need to do now is go through guided setup. System info also confirms that space available matches what I'd expect given the hard drive that's in it.

    So I think I'm in business, and in the process am probably now indebted to unitron, who was of great help getting this to work. He also helped me recently with another of our TiVos that broke and needed a power supply, as I explained a bit earlier in this thread.

    The girl that sold me this TiVo said she kind of marvels at the kind of people that you can get to connect with your equipment when going through Craigslist. (I think in her mind, I'm some kind of TiVo expert and computer wizard, but really to be honest, I'm nothing compared to the experts in the TCF Help forum, especially unitron.)

    So our house now has 5 working TiVos, all with product lifetime on them: 3 S2's, one Premier, and one TiVo HD. I think I've only paid for 2 or 3 lifetimes, as I've been getting good deals on lifetime by buying used.


    BTW, this is fixed now too. The flakyness was spam popups in chrome, and overall computer slowness. I used system restore to go back in time a few days, and all is well now.
     
  7. timckelley

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    Well guide data is loaded, but when I hit Now playing, I get a message about a hardware problem preventing me from being able to record anything, or to watch anything in NP. I tested it, and I can schedule To Do items, but sure enough, it won't record. The specific error is "Error #51".

    I googled, and this thread says that means the the TiVo service number on the motherboard doesn't match what's on the disk, and the fix is to do a "Clear and delete everything". Actually this does make sense, since this is a new disk with an image that didn't come from this TiVo, so maybe this error is nothing to worry about.

    I guess I'll go do a Clear and Delete Everything.
     
  8. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Yep, I was going to say something about this because you didn't mention it in the previous post, but I see you've figured it out.

    :up:

    Now, have you decided what your going to pay to the woman who gave you the Tivo?
    Whatever you decide, I think $40 is a fair price since the Tivo has lifetime, even though you had to do some work to get it working.
     
  9. unitron

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    Give her the full $50 for being nice about it, and having trusted you.
     
  10. timckelley

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    My wife's initial advice was to slash it in half to $25 or less because of the work involved. I told her that the fact that it has a lifetime sub is worth something reasonable, and I slowly worked her up to an agreement of $40, which coincidentally exactly equals steve's advice. I haven't emailed her yet, but I'm about to. Actually I'm not closeminded to the full $50 - I really think she probably deserves whatever the typical market value is for a lifetimed used S2 with a broken hard drive in it, but I'm just not sure what that is.

    I could theoretically make an argument that what I now have is a working S2 with a puny 40 GB drive in it, instead of the 60 GB that was advertised, so I'm marking it down to $40. But I could in my mind make a counterargement that if this TiVo is eventually destined for an HD upgrade anyhow, whatever HD I threw in there to get it working is irrelevant.

    It's possible, but I'm not sure, that had the ad said "lifetimed S2 with bad hard drive for $50", that maybe I still would have bought it.


    BTW, the clear and delete everything worked, and all features appear to work just fine now.
     
  11. Aero 1

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    Just giver her the $50. That lady helped you deal with your wife's OCD and saved you hours of being yelled at and reprimanded.
     
  12. timckelley

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    One problem might be that if $50 is too much, my wife will likely give me grief for paying that much. And I just did a quick look at ebay for lifetimed malfunctioning S2's that got sold, and the few I saw went for $20 - $30, so maybe $40 is more than reasonable. I suppose one reason the market value is lower is because only a relatively smaller subset of potential buyers are willing and able to fix them.
     
  13. shwru980r

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    She said she would accept what you think it's worth. Checking ebay completed auctions is an objective method of determining the value of an item.
     
  14. timckelley

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    Yes, the sale is completed by the way. Based on my review I felt that $40 was more than enough, so I offered it, and she enthusiastically said "Sold!", and also told me how happy she was that I got it working, as it makes her feel better that her TiVo will have a good home and live on. I've already paid her the money now, and the TiVo is still working fine.

    I got the impression that she was very happy with the $40. I do remember when I was over at her place mentioning to her that it's a shame that people can't recover their lifetime fees when they sell their TiVos, but she quickly dismissed that saying that she got her money's worth out of it, given the number of years worth of monthly subscription fees she never had to pay.
     
  15. trip1eX

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    Totally forgot you couldn't watch while you recorded on a VCR. :eek:

    Thanks. I knew something was missing from my story. That's the big reason he couldn't catch up.

    Oh and he was too cheap to buy another VCR (I don't recall the idea ever coming up) and I was just a kid. He spent a ton on tapes for shows he'd never watch though. :) He could have bought another VCR and got by with 2 tapes instead of 50 or whatever it was and spent the same $$$. Probably a bit penny-wise and lb-foolish relatively speaking although he probably made better use of his time which is priceless.
     
  16. timckelley

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    New development. Today my wife complained that one by one, each of her 3 TiVos halted their transfers of shows to our NAS. I took a look and see the problem.

    Just like in Dr Suess's "The Lorax", she has cut down the very last truffula tree. (Aka our 3TB NAS is now tapped out of space). She filled it up. :eek:

    So I just put our recently purchased 9TB NAS into service. I'm busy moving some of her shows over to it, and later this evening I'll set up pyTivo so that new transferred shows go to the new NAS.
     
  17. bareyb

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    What would happen if you started deleting the oldest of her shows from the NAS to make more room as you go? Would she even notice? You know she's never actually going to watch the vast majority of this stuff right? I think she has a sickness and you are her enabler. :p
     
  18. timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    At some she'd probably figure it out, and I'd be in hot water. But if this 9TB (actually 12 TB, but 3TB are used for RAID5 protection) ever gets filled up, I'd like to think she'll do some weeding out to make room.
     
  19. Fofer

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    Me too. But, psssst... she won't.
     

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