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Wife won't delete recordings

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timckelley, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. Nov 22, 2013 #961 of 1216
    timckelley

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    2 of my wife's 3 TiVos are S2's, which let you choose between 4 quality levels; each take a different amount of space per hour.

    I think even on her TiVo Premier, she foolishly chooses the SD channels to record from, even when there are HD channels available. I'm pretty sure she does this to conserve on hard drive space, and she seems to not care about HD quality.
     
  2. Nov 22, 2013 #962 of 1216
    unitron

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    Which came first? This thread or TCF?

    :D


    Seriously, there can't be that many still-active (and by the OP yet) threads which have already had a tenth anniversary.
     
  3. Nov 23, 2013 #963 of 1216
    dlfl

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    I would "ignore" this thread except it has officially acquired "antique" status. :D
     
  4. Nov 23, 2013 #964 of 1216
    steve614

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    This calculation has nothing to do with bytes or amount of space used.
    It is about the length of the shows.
    Count up all the shows and take into account if they are 1/2 hour, 1 hour, etc.
    Add up all those hours. I'd be curious to know the number.
     
  5. Nov 23, 2013 #965 of 1216
    timckelley

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    The bytes would be easier and quicker for me, because I have no idea what the average length of her shows is. (And she's fairly consistent on the quality setting she uses for recording.) I'm sure she's got anywhere from 30 minutes shows to 2 hours movies, but finding out the average could be difficult. I suppose I could count up and give a lower and upper range, but the range will probably be quite wide.
     
  6. Nov 23, 2013 #966 of 1216
    Bigg

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    Oh dear. That's pretty bad. Sounds like time for a Roamio Pro and Minis! What is she recording off of? A basted or serial controlled box?
     
  7. Nov 23, 2013 #967 of 1216
    bareyb

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    I think it's time to delete the Wife. :D
     
  8. Nov 24, 2013 #968 of 1216
    unitron

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    Nah, at this point he's got too much money tied up in her.

    :rolleyes: ;)
     
  9. Nov 24, 2013 #969 of 1216
    Coffee

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    A S2 measures recording space in SD hours. If you got a 1tb model, that would be 150 hours of HD, which is not far less than a thousand hours of SD.

    Also, you could upgrade to anything newer than a S2 and be able to use a DVR expander, which adds 1tb to whatever is already there.
     
  10. Nov 24, 2013 #970 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Well it looks like the price has stayed the same since a year ago, in that I could buy a Synology NAS box + 2 x 3TB WD hard drives for a tad over $500 including tax and shipping. And since I've been using RAID 1 technology (which is mirroring of the drive, so if one drive goes bad, the other drive has a backup of it), I get 3TB use out of the set up. But I see I could actually buy a 4 bay Synology device and buy 4 x 3TB drives, and set them up with RAID 5 technology, which means 1 drive backs up the other 3, so again means I'm protected from data loss, but now I get 3/4 use of the space. So for a tad over $800 I could have 9TB use of the space. So for 60% more money, I basically could have triple as much space as what $500 could give me. If my wife ever uses up another 3TB, then it'd be a good investment to go ahead and spend $800 now and get this vast ocean of space.

    I'm not sure if the 1 TB expander you mention would be as cheap per byte as going the NAS route would. But there is something to be said for the 1 TB expander: One of my wife's TiVos is a TiVo Premier, and unlike her 2 S2's, the Premier automatically copy protects a bunch (but not all) of her shows on it, preventing her from moving them to the NAS. I suspect that expander would give her some breathing room for dealing with that problem.
     
  11. Nov 25, 2013 #971 of 1216
    unitron

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    I seem to recall reading that there was a problem using an external with anything bigger internally than the original drive.

    Better to just replace the internal with a 2TB and not double the possible sources of failure.

    newegg has the WD20EURS on sale through the 28th

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=511576
     
  12. Nov 25, 2013 #972 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Wow, that's a great price; considerably lower than I've found. I'll check and see if it's compatible with Synology NAS's. It's true I could save a bunch of money and just upgrade her TiVo Premier, though there wouldn't be data protection like what RAID 5 would give me. Also I've already upgraded the Premier, but I can't remember how big a drive I put in it. I know it wasn't 3TB though. I could open it up and see. I guess I'll talk about the options with my wife.
     
  13. Nov 25, 2013 #973 of 1216
    unitron

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    I'm talking about using that particular drive (along with comer's jmfs cd v1.04) to copy the Premeire's internal drive and expand, so that you've maxed out the Premiere's internal at 2TB and skip an external altogether.

    I wouldn't think that the kind of drive suited to a NAS or RAID setup, because that's a different job from recording 24/7, where it's more important to get almost everything and keep going, instead of slowing down as much as necessary to get every last byte exactly correct.

    You can live with one pixel that's blue instead of the green it was supposed to be for one 1/30th of a second out of a 2 hour movie.

    A changed numeral in your financial records, not so much.

    Never send racehorses and plowhorses to do each other's jobs.
     
  14. Dec 2, 2013 #974 of 1216
    iaflyer

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    I have a Synology to store video and photos and love it. Very easy to setup and use. As to using RAID or not, I do use raid even though the stuff isn't essential. Sure, I don't want to lose the photos but I have them stored on DVD as a backup anyway.

    The reason for the RAID is that it would take many hours to replicate the videos and photos on the hard drive that failed. With the low cost of hard drives these days, it's worth the dollars to pay for another HD to have a spinning backup. I used a pair of WD Red 2 TB hard drive for storage. At the time, it was $129 I believe, so if I consider my time at $20 an hour (lower than what I make but a decent price for my free time with the family) if it would takes long than 6 hours to replicate all that storage, I make out.
     
  15. Dec 2, 2013 #975 of 1216
    mattack

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    I *purposely*, not foolishly, record on the SD channels, for disk space reasons. I "care" about HD quality, and in fact sometimes am watching the On Demand HD versions of shows.. But don't want to take up the Tivo's space. (I even offload SD shows to an external drive, and yes, I managed to kill one earlier this year.. that was all my fault.)

    The *one* show I have started recording in HD because I watch it that night is The Amazing Race.
     
  16. Dec 5, 2013 #976 of 1216
    Bigg

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    How do you stand watching crummy SD? Just get a bigger TiVo!
     
  17. Dec 8, 2013 #977 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Crisis in progress: it's Xmas season, the time when my wife goes to town with her To Do List, and one of her S2's just died. I just posted a thread to the help board here, and I'll see if it can be resurrected, but I'm not so sure it can be. She's not very happy at the moment.
     
  18. Dec 8, 2013 #978 of 1216
    bareyb

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    Most likely just needs a new Hard Drive, but her recordings are probably gone for good… Better ask Santa for some more Hard Drives...She's probably going to want you back up all her recordings now. ;)
     
  19. Dec 9, 2013 #979 of 1216
    mattack

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    Depends on how bad you mean it died. If the drive shows up while connected to a computer, you MIGHT be able to "just" do the "copy and expand" steps to recover the contents.
     
  20. Dec 9, 2013 #980 of 1216
    WRX09MD

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    Im not even married and that will get me a divorce for sure!
     

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