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Wife won't delete recordings

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timckelley, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. Jan 15, 2013 #821 of 1216
    dlfl

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    :D There are so many things my wife won't do! In almost all cases she's just exhibiting good judgement. For better or worse her interest in TiVo doesn't go much beyond knowing how to change channels and play recordings.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2013 #822 of 1216
    lrhorer

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    timckelly,

    How is the new server working out? Have you ventured out into the wild, blue horizon of advanced network apps, yet?
     
  3. Jan 15, 2013 #823 of 1216
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    We need a companion thread, "husband won't set up my file server". :p

    (Yes, I need to get back to studying pyTiVo.)
     
  4. Feb 3, 2013 #824 of 1216
    timckelley

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    It's working smoothly with regards to backing up my wife's shows, except she always gets me to do it for her. As user friendly as it is, my wife is uncomfortable doing it herself. I started writing a user document for her, but haven't finished it. Since she's not that familiar with even basic windows commands, like creating folders and renaming them (and that's involved when you create folders within shares, which she likes to have), that means my user document has to be very detailed explaining even the most basic steps. I just haven't gotten around to doing that yet.

    I actually decided it's easier to use the pyTiVo web screen directly instead of trying to use kmttg, by the way. It seems more reliable, especially when she wants to queue up a bunch of shows for transferring.

    However, she's only using it at a basic level - i.e. transferring shows directly from TiVo to our new file server. I actually have a video of my son I'd like to put there too, and I'm pretty sure I can use the encoding features of kmttg to do it.

    As for advanced network apps, I haven't looked into that. I'm just now getting around to moving our printers to be hooked up to the file server, and I could swear it came with PC back up/restore utilities, but after looking at the synology software that came with it, I can't find any such features. I suppose it's not big deal - there's all kinds of PC backup/restore freeware on internet that's available. My server is mapped as a T: drive, so any backing up software I use can simply specify T: as the target drive.
     
  5. Feb 3, 2013 #825 of 1216
    timckelley

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    By the way, my wife has made quite a few cracks along the lines of "why didn't I just buy her another TiVo, instead of this complicated file server?" She doesn't need my help to move shows between actual TiVos, but she apparently does need my help using pyTiVo, so she seems like she wishes I'd've gotten another TiVo instead.

    I keep telling her I have no regrets, because
    • I've always wanted a file server for more reasons than backing up shows.
    • She's getting 3TBs of space (actually 6, but it's a 2 drive raid array, so really it's just 3), which I don't think any TiVo I would have bought her would have had.
    • I think the price per byte of storage is cheaper this way than buying another TiVo
    • She already has enough tuners. Buying another TiVo involves spending $ on more than just storage - you're buying a tuner and guide data, and all that.

    Assuming I'm getting a file server anyway, a TiVo + a file server is fairly expensive, and I don't want to shell out that much $.
     
  6. Feb 3, 2013 #826 of 1216
    bareyb

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    Tell her she has a problem and you are no longer willing to enable her. Seems to work pretty well on "Intervention". :p
     
  7. Feb 4, 2013 #827 of 1216
    mattack

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    Nope, Tivos won't even boot with a drive > 2 TB installed, even if the OS is only configured for 2 TBÂ… at least that's what I gather on the upgrade discussions.
     
  8. Feb 4, 2013 #828 of 1216
    Fofer

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    Does she ever actually go back and watch any of the shows you're offloading to this "file server?" Ever?
     
  9. Feb 4, 2013 #829 of 1216
    lrhorer

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    It sounds like you need an automated process.

    I definitely don't follow that, especially if one employs kmttg's auto transfer utilities. The only real issue I have had on a recurring basis was when a series insists on giving two different episodes the exact same name. There are work-arounds for that, but none were really compatible with my scripts. It just meant I had to intervene manually.

    From what source?
     
  10. Feb 4, 2013 #830 of 1216
    lrhorer

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    Why the quotes around the term? He has a file server. A NAS, as I recall.

    As to her watching, I would expect it would be far more likely than what he was doing before, IIRC. I believe he was archiving to DVD.
     
  11. Feb 4, 2013 #831 of 1216
    Fofer

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    I'm not asking what's "far more likely."

    I'm asking if she ever watches any of these "archives" -- on DVD, or off the NAS.

    (And I'm betting the answer is no.)

    Methinks there's a better solution here and it doesn't involve throwing technology at the "problem."
     
  12. Feb 5, 2013 #832 of 1216
    murgatroyd

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    I don't see what business it is of ours if she is watching what she records or not, or how long it takes her to get around to it.

    We all make choices of what we want to watch, what we want to keep, how much money we want to spend, and so on. I'm noticing that lately people here are awfully quick to make moral judgements about what other people do, simply because what other people like to do is not the same as what they like to do. It doesn't matter what our reasons might be, what our budget might be, or any of the other variables. If we don't do things their way, we are wrong.

    We recently got someone boasting in the Downton Abbey thread that they never pay for anything that they can watch on broadcast for free. This was in response to someone else saying that a missed episode was available for download from iTunes. Maybe it is more convenient to buy it from iTunes than it is to sit at the computer and watch the episode for free from PBS.org. Why should he cares if someone else spends money to get an episode off iTunes? They weren't spending his money.

    IMO, the only reason to ask whether Tim's wife is watching something out of her archive or not is to debug their workflow, and to remove any impediment there might be to her watching something, if and when she wants to. There are reasons her watching time is limited, and I don't see why she shouldn't have a choice of what she wants to see when she can watch something. How much she can afford to keep is between her and Tim. It's not my place to say anything about that. The only reason the volume should come into play is for technical considerations of how to deal with that size of video library.

    I personally think it is lunacy for me to archive whole seasons of a show off cable or OTA when it is available for purchase on DVD, because I can barely keep up with archiving the shows that aren't commercially available and never will be.

    But not everyone will share this view, just like not everyone in the Ultraviolet thread does things the way you like to do it.

    Can we please stick to discussing the technical aspects, and let Tim and his wife decide for themselves what works best for them?
     
  13. Feb 5, 2013 #833 of 1216
    Fofer

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    Sorry, no. It's a public discussion forum, and that's what happens. You're passing judgment via an assumption that I'm passing judgment. Neither of us is right or wrong. C'est la vie.
     
  14. Feb 5, 2013 #834 of 1216
    murgatroyd

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    I just find it curious that having gone around and around with everyone who insisted that you didn't need Ultraviolet because they didn't need Ultraviolet, that you would use the same kind of argument on someone else.

    I think there's a better solution that doesn't involve technology, too, but since I'm not in a position to volunteer to help with watching their kid or do their housework so Tim's wife can watch more of her shows, nor do I have a magic wand to give her more hours in her day, what point is there for me to say so? ;)
     
  15. Feb 5, 2013 #835 of 1216
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    I'm not following, and the "argument" about Ultraviolet played out quite a bit differently in my perspective then the problem posed by this thread did. My Ultraviolet "investment" is less than $50 at this point, and has granted me eye-opening convenience and entertainment, from a service many hadn't taken seriously since its introduction. But quite a few things have changed in the landscape, making it quite a bit more attractive to adopt and use. The dynamics have shifted. New paradigms emerge, new mindsets cultivate.

    This thread is almost 10 years old now, has basically become a long-standing parody of itself, and the underlying issue (that's causing the "problem") is no closer to being solved. That's the whole joke, see?

    The point is, I don't see this issue as a matter of "no free time" so much as its the digital equivalent of hoarding. Even with all the time in the world, those offloaded shows aren't going to be watched. All Tim's doing is enabling the behavior, and delaying the inevitable. Dynamics have shifted here too (availability of DVD box sets, online streaming, etc.) And yet Tim will just keep adding more and more hard drives to the NAS... to offload/hoarde shows his wife refuses to delete, and will never, ever have time to watch again.
     
  16. Feb 5, 2013 #836 of 1216
    timckelley

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    I've asked my wife about it, and thinks she might need these shows in her old age. I personally have more confidence that there will always be new content available that's worth watching. My wife doesn't have that confidence though.
     
  17. Feb 5, 2013 #837 of 1216
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    Tim, let's be honest. We deserve it. This chat has been going on for almost a decade now. You know, and we know, she will never, ever, EVER watch these offloaded shows. Your TiVo, or the drives, will die first, or she'll forget about what's there, as new content become more interesting. You're not offloading these shows for her to realistically watch... so much as you're doing it because you can (and somehow, this action sort of, kind of, "appeases" her.)

    I don't blame you, and I understand why you're putting forth the effort. You're a good husband for wanting to keep her happy this way. But what's been left out of this thread, it seems, is the very frank admission about what happens to these shows after they are offloaded (ie: NOTHING) and that's a little unfair to those who've been following along for all this time.
     
  18. Feb 5, 2013 #838 of 1216
    mattack

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    I haven't read the whole thread, but I'm using offloading to a drive connected to a computer, and I *do* go back and watch at least some of the shows. Since I have less storage on the Tivos, I download shows in groups and then watch them in air order later, if they're not a show I keep up on week to week.

    (There are other things, like music shows & musical performances from talk shows, that I *haven't* really watched, but "someday" intend to rip the audio off to use as songs on my ipod/iphone.)
     
  19. Feb 5, 2013 #839 of 1216
    Fofer

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    Sure, but you're the one managing the recordings and offloading them. You are not Tim McKelley's wife.
     
  20. Feb 5, 2013 #840 of 1216
    timckelley

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    It's possible she's watched some of the offloaded shows - I don't know. I'll have to ask her.
     

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