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Wife won't delete recordings

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timckelley, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. Dec 9, 2009 #681 of 1216
    HeatherA

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    Was reading some of my old posts on this forum and saw this one... so weird. My kids are now HS and College age and we have 2 TiVos and 4 MCE machines going in our house each day. No conflicts any more, no arguments and more season passes than we need, some in triplicate. I can't believe this thread is still going. Haha
     
  2. Dec 9, 2009 #682 of 1216
    lrhorer

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    One big caveat, though. RAID is not a backup solution, and it is not fault-proof. It is fault tolerant. More importantly, it cannot in any way make up for user error. A RAID solution should prevent the loss of data in the event of one or possibly more (depending on the RAID level) hard drives. If the user is willing to take the risk, then a RAID system is a moderately robust measn of storing data. Backups are the only answer to data loss from vectors other than a failing hard drive, though. In my case, the video server hosts a RAID6 array and the backup server hosts a RAID5 array. When 3T hard drives are introduced and come down in price, I will be converting all the drives in my RAID arrays to 3T drives, and taking all the old drives and using them for offline backups. This is probably a bit excessive for arrays smaller than 4T, as copying less than 4T of data can be done fairly quickly. For arrays larger than that, however, the odds of one array suffering a failure while trying to do a full restore to the other array start to rise high enough to be of concern.
     
  3. Dec 17, 2009 #683 of 1216
    emp

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    x2.

    If your both contributing to your household then its "our" money, not "my" or "your" money.
     
  4. Sep 19, 2010 #684 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Well, here's a new update: Over a week ago, our house got flooded, but I was careful to save all 3 TiVos. My TiVo was upstairs, so has been continuing to record, but I had to unplug both my wife's TiVos. For the last week, we've been living at my mother-in-law's house, so my wife took the liberty of scheduling a few of her most important shows on my TiVo.

    Today, I hooked up one of her TiVos in the same room as mine (upstairs) so that TiVo is back in business finally. But she's had no time to watch anything, so I'm sure her backlog has been getting bad. Today she made the decision to delete about 18 episodes of Biography without watching them, and more than a half dozen episodes of Chuck. She's accepting that she can't realistically believe that she's going to eventually watch everything that's been sitting in her vast Now Playing list, so this is some progress on her part, I think. (Just a dent however, because at Basic Quality, she fits a huge amount of shows in her Now Playing.)

    Today, she asked me to bring her other TiVo over to her mother's house, as she has analog cable through Time Warner just like we do, so I'd think it will work here. (I'm currently typing this on my MIL's laptop.) Well, I kept looking all over the house, and I couldn't find her other TiVo. At long last I found it in one of the upstairs bedrooms... she had moved it there post-flood but forgot she'd done that. That room is jampacked with stuff that got moved into it since we had to evacuate everything from the first floor, as we're going to have to repainted and recarpeted, so it was hard to find that TiVo.

    Then I realized I had no power cord, and after the longest time, I found it in the garage, because that's where I moved the TV cart/stand during the flood to save it from damage. (I had to move a bookshelf to get to it.) By the time I retrieved the items I was so dehydrated that I was getting dizzy and short of breath, because my house, being uninhabited right now, is being kept at a high temperature to save on air conditioning, and I did this right after going on a 1 hour neighborhood walk with my son. But after drinking about 40 ounces of water, I felt a lot better. I guess I'm now about to plug in and set up this TiVo I just fetched for my wife. :)

    She's made comments that she thinks she records too much, and would like to give one of her two TiVos to her mother, but her mother doesn't want it though, so I think we're still going to have all 3 TiVos in the family. Personally, I'd think she's want to keep both, because they're both single tuner S2s, and only one would provide no conflict resolution ability.
     
  5. Sep 19, 2010 #685 of 1216
    cyntax01

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    sounds like theres a physical addition here, beyond the mental addiction, akin to methamphetamines or heroin. Why not schedule a record of "Intervention" on A&E? or better yet, call the hotline and make some cash doing an episode. lol.
    All kidding aside, upgrade the hard drives, its super cheap and mega easy to do.
    Sorry about the floods -- being a new englander, judging by last March's "historic floods", I sympathize with your troubles at home (you're not a local, by chance?) Luckily, she'll have plenty of time to catch up on season 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of deadliest catch before season 7 starts.
     
  6. Sep 19, 2010 #686 of 1216
    Polcamilla

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    Hey, Tim--- do you guys have some kind of Netflix on-demand capability?

    It might be interesting to try to break the hoarding cycle entirely by convincing her that EVERYTHING she wants to watch is waiting for her on Netflix and she can just sit down and select what she wants when she wants it. No need to bother recording anything or to decide what's a priority to watch. She can just pick what she's in the mood for when she has time to watch something.
     
  7. Sep 19, 2010 #687 of 1216
    timckelley

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    I know my TiVoHD has that capability (though we've never subscribed to it); but I'm sure whether S2s have that. I they do, but I'm not sure; I'll have to look at the menus. We've talked about getting netflix, but haven't decided on it. One thing is for series currently being aired, I don't know that you can get that through netflix.

    Other than that, can most things be gotten through netflix, and watched on demand (streaming through internet) like that? If so, it makes me wonder why we're paying over $60 a month (with no premium channels) to Time Warner Cable.
     
  8. Sep 20, 2010 #688 of 1216
    ZeoTiVo

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    no you can not get current stuff and likely things like biography are not even available at any time via Netflix and especially streaming.

    The S2 can do amazon rental or buy - but be careful here - one show costs 1.99. Hoarding is bad enough but racking up a big bill is too dangerous to risk. Introducing your wife to that idea would be a bad thing.

    As for Netflix, that you can stream on the HD models only but like I said, it will not be exactly what she watches now and introducing your wife to yet more stuff to watch may not be the best approach ;)
     
  9. Sep 20, 2010 #689 of 1216
    aardwolf

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    Before I was married, I used to let my shows get built up like that. I would actually take VACATION DAYS from work so I could stay home and catch up on all my TV viewing.

    At some point I came to the realization that I was addicted to TV. Now I limit myself to 1-2 shows per night (no more than 1.5 hours of total viewing). When new shows come out, we (I'm married with kid now) don't watch unless we eliminate an older show.

    It helps that my daughter is 1.5 years old and we don't watch TV until after she goes to bed at 8.
     
  10. Sep 20, 2010 #690 of 1216
    WhiskeyTango

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    I think I'm in the same boat as the OP's wife. I do delete shows but just record way more than I can watch. I have 3 upgraded Tivo's and all of them were running low on space. I figured that I would be able to clear up space over the summer but was still recording too much. With the fall season starting I decided to start cleaning house. I deleted 2 full seasons each of Brotherhood, Damages, and Californication. I delted SP's for a few other shows and am looking at what other shows I watch but could do without like The Apprentice. It's all Tivo's fault. Before I got my first one I watched a normal amount of TV. With each upgrade and additional Tivo, I recorded more and more stuff that I normally wouldn't have bothered with.
     
  11. Sep 20, 2010 #691 of 1216
    allan

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    Ever since I got a Weaknees super-sized Tivo, I've piled up a lot of stuff, mainly just because I can. And I watch LESS TV than I did with a smaller Tivo, partly from lack of good stuff, but largely because I know I CAN skip without losing my recordings. Eventually, I'll fill this one up, and end up in that boat.
     
  12. Sep 20, 2010 #692 of 1216
    timckelley

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    What I don't understand is how it doesn't bother my wife to record everything in Basic Quality. She does that to maximize how many shows she can fit on there, but it's so grainy, I'd hate Basic Quality.

    I'm the other extreme.. I record everything in Best Quality, or if I can pick it up on my antenna, it gets recorded in HD quality. I also have a smaller hard drive than she, so keeping up with my space can be challenging at times, as it can fill up fast.

    Since it's now been over a week since I've lived in my house (it's still being repaired), I've taken steps by deleting 2 of my SPs. They are of old shows that have reruns all the time (Bonanza and Enterprise). I can see those reruns anytime. (Amazingly I never watched Bonanza as a child, and I'm watching it now for the first time... I rather like the show.) But all the new shows I'm keeping. The new season is about to start, and my current shows are mostly HD quality, so I hope to get back to the house soon, or even I could run out of space. I probably could go at least 2 or 3 weeks before that would happen, and I don't think I'll be out that long, but on the other hand, my wife is slightly poaching on my TiVo right now. But she has nicely chosen a very low quality (probably Basic) for her shows.
     
  13. Sep 20, 2010 #693 of 1216
    WizarDru

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    Biography is available on Netflix and quite a few episodes are available for Streaming.
    http://www.netflix.com/WiSearch?oq=&lnkctr=srchrd-ips&v1=biography&btn=Search

    Chuck is available through Netflix, but not the latest season. Some shows, like many of Disney's kid sitcoms and TNT's shows, have their stuff on Netflix streaming BEFORE it comes to DVD/Bluray. Netflix is far better with TV shows on streaming than movies. And if she's really taking THAT LONG to watch stuff, she's better served waiting until its on Netflix and she can watch at her leisure.
     
  14. Jul 9, 2011 #694 of 1216
    timckelley

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    New problem developing. I decided to replace one of my wife's TiVos with a new one that supports HD, since more and more of our analog channels are disappearing as Time Warner slowly evolves to digital. Actually I got her the TiVo Premiere, and I still have a TiVo HD. (I need to sell her old TiVo, which I haven't done yet.)

    I have a cable card in my TiVo HD, but my wife doesn't yet have one, because our house is for sale, and she'd rather wait until we move to get one, because that way we only have to pay the tech once, instead of twice, to get her TiVo going with a cable card.

    Well, there's already shows on channels no longer available on analog that she wants, so lately she's been recording them on my TiVo. I didn't mind because I had a lot of space, but I'm starting to run out of space now. So I got the bright idea to move them using HMO to her TiVo. I figure she may not have a cable card, but you'd think I should be able to transfer a show I recorded with my cable card down to her TiVo.

    But on every single one of her shows, I'm getting the message "Transferring prohibited by the copyright holder", whatever that is. I see a really long thread about it on the TiVoHD forum, and I skimmed through it, but I still don't really understand it, except that TiVo is passing the blame, while others blame TiVo, so I don't know whose fault it is. I just think it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that I should be able to move her shows to her TiVo, but apparently I can't do that. :( So my problems remain. :(

    I wonder, by chance, if I were to get her a cable card if this message would magically go away? Maybe not.
     
  15. Jul 9, 2011 #695 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Well, if nothing else, if I got her a cable card, she could record her future showings on her own TiVo, so long term I guess that's a solution.
     
  16. Jul 9, 2011 #696 of 1216
    bareyb

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    I looked but didn't see the thread you were referencing but it sounds like the copyright protection is probably coming down from the Cable Provider. Not much TiVo can do about that.

    Getting her a cable card and her own TiVo will probably end this thread once and for all. ;)
     
  17. Jul 10, 2011 #697 of 1216
    DevdogAZ

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    The restriction on transferring has nothing to do with whether yours or hers has a cablecard. It's just a fact of life with digital broadcasts. Some providers turn on the flag that only allows the show to be copied once, and that once was when you recorded it.

    And I can't believe thus thread is still going.
     
  18. Jul 10, 2011 #698 of 1216
    bareyb

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    Once he gets her a cablecard this thread will finally retire. She'll have her own TiVo and can keep all the recordings she wants. ;)
     
  19. Jul 11, 2011 #699 of 1216
    ZeoTiVo

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    come on guys - give him some real info.

    1. come August 1st the FCC will require TWC to allow for self install of cable cards - thus ending the truck roll fee.

    2. Unless he bought a premiere XL - once she starts recording the shows in HD - that hard drive is going to fill up 3 times as fast as before when recording analog SD shows.

    DevdogAZ gave you the info on how it is the recording via digital channels that is adding that copy restricted flag. That will persist. However streaming between 2 premiere DVRs is being worked on and has been seen in the wild and reported on in this forum.
     
  20. Jul 11, 2011 #700 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Wow; that's great news; the first I've heard of this. No need for me to wait for me to move to my next house then. Hopefully Time Warner acknowledges this new requirement when I call them. I know the last time I talked to them about it, which was a couple of months ago, they didn't mention anything about it, and said I'll have to pay to get the installation done.

    It does seem odd that I can't transfer the shows, since I think the impression many have when we buy TiVos is that we'll be able to do this.

    That's a good point. We haven't sold her old TiVo yet, and for now she's still using it, so the space problem isn't here yet, but I assume if I need to expand her space I can. I know on my TiVo HD, there's a way to expand space without even opening the box; supposedly you can plug more space straight into it. Maybe the same might be true on the TiVo Premier.
     

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