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Wife won't delete recordings

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timckelley, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. Oct 9, 2008 #661 of 1216
    timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    Update on the situation.

    My wife's recently deleted folder has hit absolute zero. She has totally and completely used up all the space on her TiVo. :eek:

    She's now losing shows unless she watches something every day to make room. In fact, she's been doing a little of that, and also a little of actually choosing something to delete, because she doesn't want the TiVo to make that choice on her behalf.

    I applaud her ability to actually delete something without watching it. This is a new landmark development that strikes to the heart of the OP of this long and nobel thread, "Wife won't delete recordings". After all the years since this thread started, she finally has done it! :D

    But let me say, she just deleted only a little bit - just enough so her To Do list will still record.

    At the same time all this has been happening, I've been making a deal with one of our other TCFers here, who has nicely offered to sell me one of her lifetimed TiVos. She gave me permission to mention her name, by the way: jenhudson. She apparantly had an extra TiVo that's been sitting in her closet unused, so she sold it to me.

    It's just a series 2, but that's fine, as we have no HD TVs in the house anyway, and even if we ever get one, one of our other TiVos is HD capable anyhow. But the TiVo she sold me (at a reasonable price) also has it's hard drive already upgraded to the same size as the one my wife already had. (System info says up to 340 hours, which I assume is at basic quality). So this doubles my wife's space. I just set up this TiVo a few minutes ago.

    But like my wife said, it's not just the extra space she sought, but now when my son is watching TV in one room, she can now watch her TV in the other, so she feels this will give her more of a chance to watch her content and stop it from piling up so much.

    If she somehow fills up both her TiVos, then that will just seem whacked out to me, and I can't see an argument for further increasing her space after that. Surely she can live within the generous amount of space she now has. If not, I'll be pretty interested to hear her excuse.
     
  2. Jul 27, 2009 #662 of 1216
    timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    (bump)

    I haven't looked closely, but I know she has many screens worth of movies sitting in NP on her second TiVo. She does watch some stuff on the second TiVo, but I think she uses it for storage and conflict resolution more than actually watching stuff. She's mainly using the second TiVo to store movies, and she keeps specials, series, and other nonmovie stuff on the primary TiVo. It's possible that she's filled up both TiVos :eek:, but I'm not really sure of that. I guess I could go look and see how much free space she actually has on it. I know that the primary TiVo she shares with our son does hover around zero free space, but there are always a few shows on it in NP for my son to watch, so she is indeed sharing it with him. He still watches DVDs too though (and, hard as it to believe, a few VHS tapes as well).


    In hindsight, this is all excellent advice, because (as I mentioned in another thread), my employer was trying to make room in the office, and put their HD 32" CRT computer monitor (4:3 aspect ratio, supports 1080i resolution) on craigslist but nobody would make offers, and then we hired a new person, and they got desperate to make room in her future office before her first day on the job, so I took it off their hands for the sweet low price of $25 :cool: They also threw in a very sturdy cart for it to sit on (the monitor is quite heavy).

    I wasn't sure if it could be converted to an HD TV, but with the help of some smart people here on TCF, I purchased a $58 device made by HDfury.com, which converts the HDMI output from my HDTiVo to the VGA input the CRT Monitor expects. The result is that the monitor now acts as a very nice HD TV, and the quality of the picture is mind boggling to me, because I've never had an HD TV before, so I didn't know what I was missing.

    I still just have analog cable, so I also installed an antenna to pick up a quite a few local digital channels, along with something called "sub channels". Altogether around a dozen or so totally free channels, all digital, are now part of my quide data. (The antenna only cost me $11.99, one time fee only.) I'm piping the sound through a stereo, so I'm now enjoying lots of HD features that my HD TiVo has to offer, that I wasn't until recently getting.

    So yes, choosing a TiVo HD to move my lifetime onto has worked out excellently. I never considered getting an HD TV to be high enough on my priority list, but for the low $ I just spent, I figured I should not pass that up.
     
  3. Aug 1, 2009 #663 of 1216
    Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    I guessed what year this thread was started and missed it by 2 years, :D
     
  4. Aug 4, 2009 #664 of 1216
    bzuka

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    you can always talk to her and explain everything becouse you are the all-in-one-piece and maybe you soul buy some more device to watch eveything you want personally
     
  5. Aug 4, 2009 #665 of 1216
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    this is a long thread and that has been said in at least 400 different ways.
     
  6. Dec 2, 2009 #666 of 1216
    timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    I've noticed lately, as more and more of my SPs are coming through my antenna, and recording in HD, that it doesn't take a lot to fill up my TiVo. My wife has for quite awhile now, stayed totally off my TiVo, so the TiVo situation has been pretty peaceful for awhile now.

    But even my own SPs are enough to fill up my TiVo if I go too long without watching TV. I've never actually filled it up though. Once I came to within maybe 2 shows of being full, but I watched and deleted stuff, and I usually have about 10 or so shows in Suggestions (sometimes more). Still, not much compared to when I did everything in SD.

    There are a couple of shows on there I haven't deleted because my wife told me she wants to watch them. But typically, a few months go by, she never watches it, and I eventually silently delete without telling her, and she doesn't seem to notice.

    Meanwhile, she still has both her TiVos mostly filled up. She's back to watching General Hospital, and has weeks worth (at least) backlog of eps in her NP. She probably has over a dozen Biography shows too. Lots and lots of other stuff, but I'm not quite sure what it all is.

    It seems like last year she had cut back from archiving, but lately I've noticed an increase in her archiving habit. Sometimes she still tapes to those archaic VHS tapes, but mostly she burns to DVD, so at least that's more uptodate technnology. They also take up a lot less shelf space. I can tell that she doesn't like to put off her tasks of offloading, because it makes room on her TiVo after she deletes it.

    I know I've told her that we have the ability to transfer shows to our PC, but I think she'd rather have the stuff on DVD and/or VHS.
     
  7. Dec 2, 2009 #667 of 1216
    ZeoTiVo

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    this is one of my favorite threads but it seems like a soap opera in itself some times. ;)
     
  8. Dec 2, 2009 #668 of 1216
    Dan203

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    You should pick up one of those DVR Expander drives. The TiVo HD units only have 160GB drives. If you were to add a 500GB DVR Expander and you would quadruple your disc space and never have to worry about running low on space again.

    I added a 500GB one to my S3, which starts with 250GB, and right now I have the complete seasons of 4 different shows (9-12 episodes apiece) plus a couple dozen more recently recorded shows, all in HD, and I still have 48 recordings in the Recently Deleted folder. (I don't use Suggestions)

    Dan
     
  9. Dec 2, 2009 #669 of 1216
    timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    Sounds like a nice Xmas gift idea. :D I wonder how much those cost.
     
  10. Dec 2, 2009 #670 of 1216
    JYoung

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    Since you've already replaced your TiVo drive before, I'm going to agree and disagree with Dan203 and suggest you swap out the hard drive on your TiVo HD for a larger one.

    I dropped a 1TB drive in my TiVo HD this summer and I have lots of space.

    See here for more info:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=370784#S5
     
  11. Dec 2, 2009 #671 of 1216
    mattack

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    Does she ever watch the stuff she's archived to DVD?

    I have *tons* of DVDs (DVD-Rs, DVD-RWs, and DVD-RAMs), and while I've been slowly transferring some stuff to an external hard drive (from finalized DVD-RWs, mostly music shows/recordings so I can hopefully get the audio off as MP3s at some point), I usually only watch something off DVDs to 'make more room on DVDs'..
     
  12. Dec 2, 2009 #672 of 1216
    comgenius1

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    If memory serves, there is a version of Nero that allows you to burn your tivo recordings to DVD once you have them on your computer.
     
  13. Dec 2, 2009 #673 of 1216
    lrhorer

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    A 1T hard drive can be had for as little as $80 plus shipping. You might really consider upgrading her drive, yours, or both.

    There are a lot of other advantages to offloading to a PC. First of all, in the long run it will take far less space and cost much less. It's also much faster and easier than copying to DVD or tape. Secondly, using an application like Galleon, one can have the programs archived to the PC automatically, with no intervention on your part, as long as they have some parameter in common (like similar or identical names or being part of a series). Thirdly, if you choose, you can have an external application automatically remove commercials. Fourthly, you can if you choose create a very handy folder structure for holding the programs. For example, I think you said she records soaps. She can create a separate folder for each Soap with sub-folders arranged by month, for example. Fifthly, if you find she is still being really bad about deleting stuff, adding 4TB or so to a PC is not terribly expensive or difficult, and I defy her to overflow a 4T system with SD videos. Finally, if the videos are stored on a networked PC, then they can be watched not only on any networked TiVo in the house, but also any other networked video device, like, say, a laptop.
     
  14. Dec 2, 2009 #674 of 1216
    timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    I've learned not to underestimate her abilities in this area. :D

    BTW, if I were to somehow install this 4TB system you speak of, I guess I'd need another 4TB to back it up, in case of a hard drive crash or something.
     
  15. Dec 2, 2009 #675 of 1216
    lrhorer

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    Yeah. My THD has a 750G drive, one of my S3s has a 1.5T drive, and the other S3 has a pair of 1T drives. My video server has an 8T RAID6 array.
     
  16. Dec 3, 2009 #676 of 1216
    lrhorer

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    Ah, there's the rub! Yes, if you consider the data on the system to be important, then backing it up is a must. Note your current implementation does not have backups, except those she copies to DVD.

    My own personal solution to the dilemma is, just as you say, an independent backup server. Another option, however, would be offline storage. You can get an eSATA / USB hard drive docking station for under $40. Using this, you can back up data to individual hard drives you keep on the shelf. With this method, the total storage invested in the backup solution can be only slightly larger than the used space on the PC, not the total space. It also allows you to easily mix-and-match drive sizes at will, meaning you can purchase only the additional backup space you need and / or at the lowest price per bit. Right now the lowest cost per bit of which I know are 1.5 TB drives, although I think I remember seeing a holiday special on a 2T drive for around $140 somewhere. In any case, a 1T hard dive fits in less space on the shelf than a 25 pack of DVDs, yet easily holds as much info as 120 Dual Layer DVDs. Of course, Single Layer DVDs are much cheaper than Dual Layer, but they take up more than twice the space, and are only a little less expensive to purchase initially than the hard drive. Re-write the hard drive a time or two, and you've totally blown away any DVD solution for cost, as well.
     
  17. Dec 3, 2009 #677 of 1216
    daveak

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    For not a lot of money, you can build a multi drive raid storage tower. Then if you lose one drive, you can still access your data. I did this for easily less than $500 to start (controller, 3 ea 1 tb drives, and enclosure - went raid 5). Videos (and our library of digital photos & music) are available from anywhere in the house. We have a central location for electronic media with lots of expandable storage. You can even go cheaper and still have as much storage, though I like using raid for data I do not want to lose.
     
  18. Dec 4, 2009 #678 of 1216
    pilotbob

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    Or if you are not crafty you can get a Drobo... yes, they are pricey but will grow with you and as time goes by bigger drives to add/swap into it will get cheaper.

    BOb
     
  19. Dec 4, 2009 #679 of 1216
    TiVoEvan74

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    I couldn't read through this entire thread... much too long. Someone probably has already made this suggestion, but if not, here goes.

    A good solution would be to add one of the Humax Tivos with DVD burning capability. You can then off-load shows onto DVDs and file them in a box with colored coded sleeves. That frees up the space and makes them accessible at a later date--for your own --or your wife's marathons!

    You can get a refurbished one from weakknees.com with larger capacity drives in them, too. That way you won't have to offload as often, but can when you want or need to. BOBW = best of both worlds.
     
  20. Dec 4, 2009 #680 of 1216
    bareyb

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    Well there you go Tim. Problem solved. :D
     

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