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Wife won't delete recordings

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timckelley, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. May 23, 2004 #261 of 1216
    TivoFan

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    540 tapes x what 6-8 hours each? (I don't even remember the last time I recorded something on a tape so the # of hours is a guess). Plus an 80 hour tivo.

    The truth of the matter is that more than likely she'll never watch 80-95% of the tapes.

    I suggest you implement a tough-love system. Take all of her tapes and lock them up where only you have the key. Stop any purchases of new tapes. Allow her to keep 10 tapes outside of wherever you have them locked up. If she wants to watch one of the other tapes, she has to trade you a tape to get one out of storage. Only let her trade one a day. If she doesn't have enough room to record/archive something, then it gets deleted.

    Your wife isn't recording shows for archival reasons. She's recording them to feed her addiction. To make her feel like she's able to manage everything. But she needs to learn that it's impossible to manage everything and learn to focus on the most important things.
     
  2. Jul 22, 2004 #262 of 1216
    timckelley

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    There's one problem with that strategy. I want to stay married to her. :)

    Update: The bad news is that last weekend, I just assembled yet another bookcase to hold her ever growing tape supply. The good news is that, now that she's admitted that she feels compelled to watch or tape even the Suggestions :eek:, she has agreed that it's a good idea to disable the Suggestions feature. I have done exactly that, and so now her TiVo will not provide anymore suggestions. I know that seems like a waste of TiVo's assets, but if my wife can't resist spending too much time with her TiVo due to beckoning suggestions, then I feel we've done the right thing here by disabling them.
     
  3. Jul 22, 2004 #263 of 1216
    Marco

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    You're not an exhumer, you're an enabler.
     
  4. Apr 13, 2005 #264 of 1216
    ZeoTiVo

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    Good for Her :up:

    put a parental lock on it and do not tell her the passcode. this will tell you both if she is really ready to kick the habit
     
  5. Apr 13, 2005 #265 of 1216
    timckelley

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    On the subject of selling it or keeping it for myself as my second TiVo, I'm undecided. I really don't have that many programming conflicts, so I probably really don't need two TiVos. But which to keep? Hers is subscribed; mine isn't. But mine has 194 hours of space, hers only 80. Also hers has folders, but mine doesn't (because mine's a series one).

    I could sell hers, and then subscribe mine... that's a thought. But then I still wouldn't have folders, but folders aren't really that big a deal to me anyway. Or I could upgrade the series 2 to have more space and then sell my unsubscribed unit. (I wonder if a series 2 will upgrade to 194 hours worth?)

    But then I have to figure out where to sell one. I guess I could try ebay, but I need to learn how to post an auction there. Plus my feedback score is only +7. (I've bought 8 things, all with positive feedback... two were from the same seller. I've never sold anything on ebay.) So I don't know how much bidding I'd get on my low feedback score.

    I guess I could avoid the whole problem altogether and just keep both TiVos. :)



    Edit: I forgot to mention that high on my priority list is to have more than just 80 hours of space. I really like recording everything at Best Quality.
     
  6. Apr 13, 2005 #266 of 1216
    ZeoTiVo

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    if the OS is version 5x or higher it will support larger Hard drives. 7X definitley will.
    You also could get a 120 hour drive from an upgrader already to go and add it as a second drive in the series 2 and still be below the 137 gig partition limit. Read up on their site about the power trip needed to keep a second drive from spinning up at the same time as the first adn pulling too much on the power supply.
     
  7. Apr 13, 2005 #267 of 1216
    timckelley

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    New question: If I put both TiVos together in the same room, is it okay for both to be plugged into the same phone line? Also, should I not plug them into the same UPS? I'm thinking that would cut down their ontime in half during a power failure. I already have two UPSes anyway, so I suspect that they each should continue having their own UPS even if they're in the same room. Any of you out ther have 2 TiVos in the same room? What do you do UPS-wise?
     
  8. Apr 13, 2005 #268 of 1216
    ashu

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    Shouldn't be a problem - just split the phone line. If they HAPPEN to dial out at the same time, only one will succeed, the other will try shortly thereafter. Calls occur every 24-36 hours and last (average) 10-20 minutes. Odds of an overlap are low.

    UPS - sure, you'd halve the total up-life, but so what - if you can't shut it down in 5 minutes, how does 10 minutes help? :)

    Upgrades and disks (suggestion) - should you decide to sell the Series 1 with Lifetime (great market for it, BTW), move the large disk (from it) to the S2! Upgrades are easy. Use the income (from selling it) to buy Lifetime for the S2!
     
  9. Apr 13, 2005 #269 of 1216
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    Polcamilla

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    I can't help but wonder if getting rid of her TiVo in some way is really going to do the trick? I ESPECIALLY wonder if it will if she knows you have a functioning TiVo in the house (let alone two!). What will keep her from using yours? What will keep the situation from escalating as it always has before?
     
  11. Apr 13, 2005 #271 of 1216
    catboy17too

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    I agree with upgrading the harddrive. Unless of course you need to watch two things at once, for more space it makes much more economical sense to upgrade.
     
  12. Apr 14, 2005 #272 of 1216
    DevdogAZ

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    I would unhook her TiVo and hide it and tell her you sold it to someone at work or something. Then see how she handles the withdrawls and if she starts scheduling things on yours. If after a while she shows that she can handle it, but you are wishing you had a second one for conflict resolution, pull the other one out and hook it back up. However, if during your test, you also find you can live just fine with only one, then you really can sell the second one.

    As for which to keep, as an owner of an upgraded series 1, I would prefer a S2. I'd like folders and HMO and TTG. It should be fairly simple to add another (or larger) drive to your wife's S2 so it has the capacity of your current S1.
     
  13. Apr 14, 2005 #273 of 1216
    timckelley

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    Your HMO and T2G comments are a really good point. If I ever want to use those features I better keep the series 2. I wonder if I could take a drive out of the series one and put it in the series 2? I know weakknees sells kits for adapting the power supply to handle two drives and also a better fan to keep the series 2 cooled with two drives. I wonder if I could buy their kit, minus the extra drive if I've already got one. Or would this drive have to be somehow prepared/configured first in some way, since it'd be coming from a series 1 and going to a series 2.

    I guess I'm getting a little off topic here, as this question is better suited for the help forum.
     
  14. Apr 14, 2005 #274 of 1216
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    I can understand your wifes problem. I had this problem a while back when I had my TV tuner card and was recording a lot of shows. I was keeping them for no apparent reason.

    I do archive stuff off of my TiVo's now with TTG, but it's a very select group of programming. Any and all poker shows ( involving professionals that is, not celebrities ) :) and some other Discovery shows and stuff like that.

    It sucks to be consumed and burdened like this and I can sympathize. It may be helpful to get rid of them or seek conseling if she can't deal with it on her own.

    It's not a big deal, in my opinion, but it's definitely worth rectifying.
     
  15. Apr 14, 2005 #275 of 1216
    mrjam2jab

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    could set kids show to Keep at most 2 or some such low number....will only have 2 at any given time but they will alwasy be there.
     
  16. Apr 14, 2005 #276 of 1216
    timckelley

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    To tell the truth My wife finally deleted those old 3 SPs for child shows. But a few weeks ago she convinced me to add 1 child SP to my TiVo :eek: She said she wants to watch an episode or two of this new show before deciding whether to keep or delete the SP. If she keeps it, she'll archive to tape (or get me to do that). But this was all before her recently renewed committment to stop watching TiVo. I haven't asked her yet how this effects the children SP on my TiVo.

    Oh and as for the KAM=2, she prefers 'Keep all episodes'. I prefer KAM=1. I actually compromised with her and got her to agree with KAM=4 on this new SP.
     
  17. Apr 14, 2005 #277 of 1216
    JYoung

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    This problem is not going awaaaayyyy.....
     
  18. Apr 16, 2005 #278 of 1216
    waldingrl

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    We have had this problem, too. We upgraded our first Tivo and purchased a second. I generally watch the upstairs tv so it's loaded with my stuff and stuff for our son. The downstairs unit has all the programs we usually watch together, stuff for our son & my husband's stuff.

    I tend to fall asleep during alot of things we watch together so I try to catch up on them. We have a rule - we keep 2 episodes of shows we watch together on the downstairs unit. If I fall asleep or miss for some reason it's my responsibility to catch up. If I dont it's my loss. Of course - there are exceptions for mini-series or season finales, etc.. I STILL haven't seen the rest of The 4400 but being married for 10 years my husband knows that he can't get away with deleting that one! :)

    Wouldn't the home media option make it easier also? We don't have it, but you would be able to access the shows from multiple units.

    If you have kids you could always take the kids for the day and order her to eat popcorn and ice cream and catch up!
     
  19. Apr 17, 2005 #279 of 1216
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    When I read this, my instinct was to immediately post, "Oh! I-i-if you do that, ca-can I have the old one?"

    Then I read the rest of the thread. I don't think our hoarding activities should be combined. (There's something to be said for non-localized archive security anyway.)

    I was going to suggest getting three Series2 boxes and using HMO to record the shows you both like on one, shows each of you like on your own, and use HMO to transfer from the common unit for shows one of you wants to keep and the other to eliminate.

    But at least I know who to ask when I need to get a copy of some early 21st century television programs (especially commercials which tend not to survive). Um... she has labeled the tapes, has an organized filing system, and databased them, right?

    You might also want to consider redesigning the shelves so that you can put them tightly against each other and spread any two sections apart to access them. Check some really big (book) libraries for ideas.

    Lastly, make sure you have a system for their safe destruction en masse before the raid by the feds. Or get someone that can convince a jury that she is really only time-shifting. At the very least, get her to watch some of the first tapes and erase them to demonstrate that this is only temporary time-shifting and not eternal retention.
     
  20. Apr 18, 2005 #280 of 1216
    timckelley

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    As far as the legality of these tapes, they really are only for her personal use. Also HMO won't help us because my TiVo is only a series one.
     

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