With the introduction of the Roamio series, I was thinking I might try to scoop up a good deal on Premiere 4 to complete my whole-home solution (I currently have a 2TB upgraded P4 and 2 Minis). But right now the P4 is $191.42 at Amazon, and I can get a base Roamio from Weaknees for $189 with a coupon code. The only thing the P4 has that the Roamio base doesn't (that I can think of) is built-in MoCA. So OK, if you need that it's worth maybe $50 in savings on a MoCA adapter (not worth much to me as I have both Cat 5e and Coax available at the location the new DVR would go). Anything else I'm missing? And with the base Roamio, I also retain the option of switching to OTA at some point (unlikely for me but you never know). I did see the Woot deal for a P4/Stream bundle for $150, but I don't need the Stream and I'm a little lazy about selling things on Ebay, so the bundle isn't much good to me. So why would I not go with the newer technology?